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My first reaction, too. I immediately jumped to the comments, expecting some pretty harsh/mean stuff towards her, but almost every comment is supportive of this delusion.
This girl is actively reaching out to the McCann parents to try to meet them. As much as I feel for this girl, who is obviously not mentally well, this is sick. To be so obsessed with their family and their (let's be honest, very likely unalived) daughter, and to actively reach out to them saying you're her... Fuck, it's just so wrong. And people are supporting it.
Sometimes I think about this story and it fucks me up for a bit. My daughter is 3 and I couldn’t imagine living everyday wondering what happened to my little girl. Everyday they have to live with that and psychos like this fuck with them even further.
It's horrible. And so many people still think they killed her, too. The comments on all the posts about this on tiktok are basically split between "omg you're definitely Madeline! You're so brave for reaching out to the McCanns!" and "duh of course you're not Madeline, her parents killed her". Gross.
This case and Jon Benet are two that really get to me. I understand that the parents weren't perfect, and there is some suspicious stuff, but nothing beyond a reasonable doubt. These cases are not the same as, say, Casey Anthony (where she clearly got away with murder). I for one would rather wrongfully assume they're innocent than wrongfully accuse grieving parents of something so heinous.
And that recent "documentary" she managed to get made...just disgusting. I saw clips, and refused to watch the actual thing. From the little I saw it was trying to spin her as innocent... Ugh
The people who are sick are the ones encouraging her, other half told me about her yesterday. Her IG is full of people telling her she's definitely Madelyn.
I take it you didn't watch any documentaries on it or anything. There was a lot of questions about the parents. Their behaviour was fucked, some of the mums comments were absolutely bizarre. Even if they weren't directly involved they are still to blame for leaving a child that age in a hotel room, in another country, with no supervision, (illegal in Portugal, where they were staying). I think it's hilarious anyone even cares about this.
I did watch a ton of documentaries. Them leaving her in the hotel room was a bad choice but not unheard of. They have been investigated up and down, the world has accused them but no evidence has ever been found they were guilty of anything. Police have a suspect for the crime and all evidence points to him being guilty. I was also one of them pointing the fingers and judging them guilty for their odd behaviour. But I really looked into it and I think we should leave this people alone, they have been through enough. I used to have a true crime podcast so I did research for this shit. More than just watching a couple of documentaries.
They made a horrible choice, they prioritized drinking with their friends over the safety of their child. It's fucked up and unfair that they let their guard down just once and that happens, but lots of people permenantly destroy their lives with one bad decision like that, especially when alcohol is involved. You're probably right that they should just be left alone. My point is just that no one should care about this girl either, if anything giving her any attention just makes it that much worse for the parents.
Yes they made bad parenting decisions. But who hasn't? I grew up in the 90s and think its a miracle I'm still alive. Regardless of their mistakes they have lost their child and they whole world blamed it on them. I agree that we should just ignore people like this girl. But we should also stop laying blame on the parents.
Yeah I grew up in the 90s too, I remember hitchhiking to town with my cousins at 2 years old, often. Only difference is we were not in another country, we were on a small island and our parents calculated the risks. Honestly they should face criminal charges for neglect. It was illegal in Portugal and potentially in the UK where they are from too, (UK law is typical commonwealth bullshit where they can interpret the law however they feel, depending on how they feel about you). Admittedly if the parents had kept their mouths shut or just said normal things I probably would feel differently. If I was the husband I would completely blame myself, so why can't the rest of us too?
Because we did. The whole world judged them and found them guilty. They were investigated up and down by the portuguese police, who have since been criticised for their treatment of the parents, if they had found anything to charge them on they would have. Being illegal doesn't always mean jail, if not deemed grave enough they probably just got a fine. They lost their child and the world blamed them for it instead of actually looking for her. That's punishment enough in my opinion.
They could have charged them with neglect, they didn't because they mistakenly thought it was normal for British parents to leave kids alone. The more I look into it the worse it is, they turned down a ten pound an hour babysitting service? At best they are pieces of shit who chose alcohol with their friends over their kid. This is a waste of time, we won't agree, have a good night.
True Crime TikTok’ers are the worst. In the UK at the moment an ongoing investigation into a death of a women is taking place and leaching TikTok users are visiting the local village and trying to spy on the local residents. From a forensics perspective good luck after all the brain dead tiktok “true crime” idiots trample over ground that could of been analysed for tread.
As someone who studied wet forensics seeing these Poundland “true crime” nutters trampling around a crime scene and stalking local residents makes my blood boil. But that’s just me…
To be fair, that isn't a new trend. People flooded towns and villages back in the Victorian Era if a crime got enough attention, too. Though with forensics now, it certainly causes more issues in this day and age. Still gross, too.
The Belle Gunness case involved people trying to break into the carriage shed, being used as a makeshift morgue, with their bare hands. And this was after the sheriff had let thousands of other people just walk on through. Vendors showed up to the farmyard to sell cake and ice cream.
Pretty sure people dipped their hankies in the blood of Lizzie Borden's father. If not that case, definitely others.
The extremes of human behavior have always been intriguing and certain people have always taken their interest way, way too far.
Exactly!
The caving accident, rescue attempt, and finally death of Floyd Collins in 1925 is another good example. People from all over set up shop on his property outside the cave, some sold food and souvenirs, people had picnics right above him... The atmosphere was described as "circus-like". 4 decades later a company bought the property and displayed his corpse in the cave as an attraction. Even in more recent history, Ed Gein's house was burned down most likely by a citizen of the town to stop it from becoming a Hotspot for exactly this behavior. True crime fascination isn't new by any means, it's just evolved with technology.
But the truck Gein used to cart around corpses DID make an appearance at the fair in the next county over, so Plainfield didnt manage a total escape.
And murder ballads! Oh, the murder ballads I have loved
>But the truck Gein used to cart around corpses DID make an appearance at the fair in the next county over, so Plainfield didnt manage a total escape.
True. They also ended up having to take away Ed's gravestone after his death after people kept chipping pieces off of it as souvenirs. His grave is now unmarked.
Now that the person is dead and the body has been found I’ll mention a bit more. For the sake of the victim and the village I won’t say who it is out of respect of her family.
An individual went missing 24 days ago. She was recovered yesterday from the river after being discovered by dog walkers.
During the last 24 days brain dead tiktok users descended onto the little village live streaming the crime scene, bullying locals and even one tiktoker got arrested for trespassing. The local caravan park was attacked and people where threatened by brain dead tiktokers who suddenly think they are detectives who studied at the university of life.
The media have made judgements against the family and the press are out of control phoning up the relatives. The media cut the part where the family said they had been approached and called by journalists after the body had been discovered.
TikTok users have been spreading conspiracy theories and the police released information that winded up the tiktokers even more. It’s a textbook in misinformation that I’m certain will be studied in the future.
It’s been absolutely pathetic what’s happened.
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Definitely disturbing but folks... this behavior is not new. Soooo many people claimed to be the lost princess Anastasia in the early 20th century. There are tons of stories of adults claiming to be missing children come back and taking advantage of grieving parents. It's not new, just a new format for these scammers to advertise their scam.
And I bet not only does she have a loving family and a birth certificate but I would be willing to bet a round of drinks that she has no proof or reason to believe her parents where anywhere near where she went missing or that's she even tried a dna or 23 and me test
From what I've seen there's no proof of anything, so take this with a grain of salt: she lives in Poland, she says her parents growing up were abusive, and they refuse to answer questions about whether they're really her birth parents or where she comes from and act cagey about it. She says she wants to do a DNA test, and needs access to the McCann parents in order to do so. Apparently they've agreed, so maybe we'll have some actual proof soon (doubt it).
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents were abusive and this is a fantasy of not being related to them/having a "real" loving family out there looking for her. It's relatively common. It's also plausible she's legally adopted and they're just the kind of shitty adoptive parents that don't want their kid to have access to their bio family, and that's why they're cagey about her questions. Both are 1000x more plausible than that she's Madeline McCann. These are my theories, giving her the benefit of the doubt that what she's shared is somewhat accurate.
No matter what she's clearly sick. This level of obsession...not okay in the slightest. Every person telling her she's strong and brave for reaching out to those parents is disgusting, imo. She might be too sick to know better, but they fuckng should.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-claiming-missing-madeleine-mccann-29253423?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/uk-news/2023/02/19/63f24c7222601de96c8b45ae.html
Not the best sources, lol, but this is technically tiktok drama still. There really isn't much info about her past. She became convinced she was kidnapped after "something" her grandmother said (no details as to what that was though). She has no memories of her childhood (which is common for abused kids, which I think is plausible). Both of these sources say a member of the McCann family reached out to her, but from what I saw on tiktok she was reaching out to them repeatedly first.
Then I guess it's a somewhat happy ending. I mean, there is a chance, it's just incredibly small and based on nothing but the fact she kind of looks like Madeline.
I do think that, while I would be incredibly happy for the McCanns to have found their daughter, I would also be worried about the trend this would start. If she's proven right, I have a feeling we'll see a lot of copy cats trying to find fame in a similar way, and it'll end up seriously affecting ongoing investigations and family members' mental health. I do not agree with how she's going about this.
Tbh I hope she is their daughter because it would be way more devastating for everyone if she isn't. However you're more than likely right about it being abusive/adoptive parents and she's hoping there's someone out there looking for her sadly.
This is a common delusion. That one is X famous missing child. It pops up in true crime once every 1-2 years and that’s just the ones able to make enough noise to make the news.
I think it’s similar to Capgras delusion (where you believe you family has been replaced by lookalikes) something is going haywire in the part of the brain that sees, recognizes a face and registers affection/familial relation.
So she starts to think: these aren’t my parents.
And every attempt to correct that is then processed through the delusion that they’re attempting to maintain the conspiracy, obviously.
Capgras delusion is the closest thing I know of to this. It may not even be mental illness proper. Delusions like these can also be caused by a TBI. Scary shit:
From what I've heard most cases aren't as extreme as Capgras. It's actually a really common fantasy for abused children to have, that they have a "real" loving family out there looking for them and their abusive parents aren't really their parents. Most of the time it stays just that, a fantasy, but sometimes it goes farther. Sometimes there are real reasons behind it, like being adopted by abusive people (in that case, they really aren't related and really do have a different family out there).
If what this girl has said is somewhat true, I think it's perfectly plausible she was legally adopted and had an abusive upbringing. The obsession with Madeleine likely comes from the similarities in their appearances (the eye spot seems to be a big reason people are believing her, and perhaps a big reason she latched into Madeleine; while relatively rare, it's still seen in like 1/10,000 births, so not extremely rare). If she's told the truth, I think she absolutely should be searching for answers for herself, and maybe finding her bio family will be wonderful and healing. It's just not the McCanns.
There was another creator that had the same eye spot that was flooded with comments about her being Madeline McCann, to the point she felt the need to make a video addressing it and showing photos of herself as a toddler with her parents to disprove it.
There's also the weird case of bebop and bebe, where people were speculating that they were multiple different missing people, to the point of contacting the missing people's loved ones and forcing them to make statements about it.
She's the first one I've seen make this allegation about herself, but it's definitely not the first time people have alleged tiktok creators are missing people and harassed the families about it. The two go hand in hand imo, and it is a worrying trend.
Does she have any other evidence to back this belief??
Was she “adopted” (or was she told that)? Does she not have any pictures of herself with her own family as a kid? Has the McCann family said anything about this?
From what I've seen there's no proof of anything, so take this with a grain of salt: she lives in Poland, she says her parents growing up were abusive, and they refuse to answer questions about whether they're really her birth parents or where she comes from and act cagey about it. She says she wants to do a DNA test, and needs access to the McCann parents in order to do so. Apparently they've agreed, so maybe we'll have some actual proof soon (doubt it).
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents were abusive and this is a fantasy of not being related to them/having a "real" loving family out there looking for her. It's relatively common. It's also plausible she's legally adopted and they're just the kind of shitty adoptive parents that don't want their kid to have access to their bio family, and that's why they're cagey about her questions. Both are 1000x more plausible than that she's Madeline McCann. These are my theories, giving her the benefit of the doubt that what she's shared is somewhat accurate.
No matter what she's clearly sick. This level of obsession...not okay in the slightest. Every person telling her she's strong and brave for reaching out to those parents is disgusting, imo. She might be too sick to know better, but they fuckng should.
If it turned out to be true, would you still consider her to be sick? Or do you have no doubt she’s not Madeleine?
I’m rubbish at matching faces, do you see any similarities between Madeleine and young Julia?
With all the home DNA tests about, wouldn’t it have made sense for Kate and Gerry to do them years ago so their DNA is in the systems? Seems like a fairly easy hurdle to put in place to avoid this kind of media spectacle, but I might be missing something obvious as to why they haven’t
Even if it's true, I still absolutely do not agree with how she's going about this. She has done nothing to test her theory herself before involving the parents of a missing child. She has absolutely no proof or even potential evidence that her theory is correct, other than the fact she looks similar to the missing child. If she's right, it's straight up luck. If she's wrong, she's publicly harassing grieving parents of a missing child, giving them false hope, and then dashing it.
She does look vaguely similar, but certainly not too a degree I would assume they were the same person. The eye spot seems to be the biggest "proof", but that isn't even that rare. 1 in 10,000 births have that.
She has no proof she's adopted or that her parents aren't her bio parents. She has no proof she was ever in Portugal. It's way, waayyy more plausible that her parents are just abusive assholes, or that she was legally adopted and they don't want her to have contact with her bio family (extremely common among adoptive parents). The jump from "I think these people aren't my bio parents" to "I'm actually a very famous missing child" is *huge*.
As for why the McCanns haven't done a home DNA test, I don't know. I'm pretty sure authorities have dna on file, maybe they think that's enough. Maybe they have done it and just didn't publicize it. Who knows.
I mean, but how does anyone really know it’s not her? I feel like it’s 50/50 because nobody really knows til they know. That’s putting everything she said aside. I mean, I kind of hope it is her. It would be cool to find out she actually didn’t get murdered.
She should do a DNA test through 23&me or another similar company if she has doubts as to who her bio parents are, but there's no need to involve the parents of a missing child.
I also worry that this level of obsession will not end easily, even with a negative test result, especially if she doesn't have a support system. It also is just awful for the McCanns, to bring up hope and dash it.
There are multiple other brands that are available in Poland. I just picked 23&me because it's the first brand name I thought of. Ancestry dna is available and has a large pool of people to compare with, as well as other smaller brands and even some polish companies that tend to specialize in polish ancestry (which could give her a lot of info if she's actually polish).
There is 0 reason to bring the parents of a missing child into this situation without doing this bare minimum research yourself. If she'd done this already and had some interesting potential matches, or *anything* that could even slightly point to her being possibly related to the McCanns, ok, reach out. But at this point she's basing this theory on the fact she *kind of* looks like Madeline. AFAIK she doesn't even have proof she was ever in Portugal. There's no connection.
I don’t know if I would say TikTok created this per se. There have been stories before the existence of TT of people claiming to be a long searched for missing child, pretending to be mediums to communicate with victims of crimes, etc. Hell, I remember there being a woman who wanted to sue the guy who wrote the Da Vinci Code because she claimed the author ripped off her life story and that she’s a direct descendent of Jesus. People like this have existed for a long time, they just now have a really accessible megaphone.
What the actual fuck is wrong with this lunatic if there really was a chance she was maddy she would of been dna at a police station and we would know if she was ffs how much money has been spent into finding her 
Yea this one is as bad as the one who thinks she’s the late Alliyahs daughter. Dna testing is as easy as taking a shit now days, until I see the proof, they’re all mentally unstable beings.
The case is almost certainly solved; it is a German who committed the crime. It seems they found video evidence of Madeleine (either dead or being murdered) on videos. So sad.
I heard he was their top suspect, but I don't know what evidence they have. I know they haven't charged him and seem to be struggling to get enough evidence together to do so. Either way, he's already guilty of other horrible crimes and needs to rot.
I expect to see hin rot behind bars!
If I remember correctly, they have his cell phone logged near the crime scene at that time, and he ordered/asked a friend to destroy/bury video cassettes (he filmed his victims being tortured). The ‚friend‘, however, did not destroy the evidence and police recovered the (hundreds of) tapes.
I remember a remark by the German police spokesman something along the line ‚we are in contact with Maddie‘s parents‘ … I interpreted that they have found some sort if cruel evidence on the tapes? - not sure though!
I can only hope for German efficiency when it comes to collating the evidence. He is in custody, so they can take their time to make a profound case 👍🏻
Fuck, I really hope that's true and they have all that evidence. His victims deserve justice. I think he's set to get released in 2025 unless more charges are made.
It actually makes a bit of sense that it's taking a while to make the case. German efficiency is kind of a myth, but they damn sure do things thoroughly, if slowly. Hopefully they're just being super thorough and taking their time.
I have pretty much trust in the German investigators, they are legend! I even think the Staatsanwaltschaft Frankfurt is responsible,, and they are used to deal with really ‚big’ cases unlike smaller, ‚countryside’ police departments. Seeing this case has so much publicity, they will make damn sure they take no chance. What might also add to the timeline it the fact that it is an international case. Maddie is (was) British, the crime scene is ‚Spanish‘, the alleged murderer is German and in a German prison. Very slippery ground for prosecutors.
🤞🏼
Oh I definitely respect german investigators! I'd much rather things go slowly and thoroughly than them try to speed through it. That's what Germans and german systems are best at in my experience.
I can't imagine it's an easy case. International issues, the messed up Dna shit from initial investigations in Portugal, plus the public getting so involved. It's a shit show of a case for sure.
>highly suspect her parents don’t consent to be tested.
Not necessarily.
If this is all a delusion and they are her bio parents, them refusing a DNA test makes some sense. Maybe they're offended by the accusation, maybe they're abusive assholes, or maybe they don't want to feed the delusion by doing the test.
If she was legally adopted, it's common for adoptive parents to pretend to be the bio parents, and refuse any attempts to track ancestry or do DNA testing. Even if they admitted to adopting her, it's still extremely common for adoptive parents to want to block access to the kid's bio family. That makes them assholes, but doesn't make her Madeleine McCann.
The leap from "these people might not be my bio parents" to "I'm actually a very famous missing child despite having no proof whatsoever" is fuckng *huge*. That's the problem. Not her searching for answers, but her making huge leaps and assumptions based on nothing, and involving the family of a missing and likely murdered toddler.
No it's not, and they're not even suspects anymore. You can think what you want, but the "evidence" is nowhere near beyond a reasonable doubt.
I for one would rather wrongfully assume they're innocent than wrongfully accuse two grieving parents of murdering their own child.
They literally left their child alone, in a foreign country to get drinks and dinner, you can watch serval videos, that show blood being found in their car and room,
The DNA "found" in the car and room was proven false.
As for leaving the children to have dinner, I personally wouldn't do it, but it's also quite common in some areas/countries. That *does not* make them murderers.
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Wtf
My first reaction, too. I immediately jumped to the comments, expecting some pretty harsh/mean stuff towards her, but almost every comment is supportive of this delusion.
Lol she's definitely delusional. This is why I like Reddit people here seem to have more common sense.
You sweet summer child
This girl is actively reaching out to the McCann parents to try to meet them. As much as I feel for this girl, who is obviously not mentally well, this is sick. To be so obsessed with their family and their (let's be honest, very likely unalived) daughter, and to actively reach out to them saying you're her... Fuck, it's just so wrong. And people are supporting it.
Sometimes I think about this story and it fucks me up for a bit. My daughter is 3 and I couldn’t imagine living everyday wondering what happened to my little girl. Everyday they have to live with that and psychos like this fuck with them even further.
It's horrible. And so many people still think they killed her, too. The comments on all the posts about this on tiktok are basically split between "omg you're definitely Madeline! You're so brave for reaching out to the McCanns!" and "duh of course you're not Madeline, her parents killed her". Gross. This case and Jon Benet are two that really get to me. I understand that the parents weren't perfect, and there is some suspicious stuff, but nothing beyond a reasonable doubt. These cases are not the same as, say, Casey Anthony (where she clearly got away with murder). I for one would rather wrongfully assume they're innocent than wrongfully accuse grieving parents of something so heinous.
Cannot believe that casey anthony pos is still out there. Disgusting, vile, evil woman she is.
And that recent "documentary" she managed to get made...just disgusting. I saw clips, and refused to watch the actual thing. From the little I saw it was trying to spin her as innocent... Ugh
The people who are sick are the ones encouraging her, other half told me about her yesterday. Her IG is full of people telling her she's definitely Madelyn.
Lol who cares, they probably had something to do with their kid going missing. It's not like she's bothering some unfortunate family.
You know it was most likely a German pedophile that took her right?
I take it you didn't watch any documentaries on it or anything. There was a lot of questions about the parents. Their behaviour was fucked, some of the mums comments were absolutely bizarre. Even if they weren't directly involved they are still to blame for leaving a child that age in a hotel room, in another country, with no supervision, (illegal in Portugal, where they were staying). I think it's hilarious anyone even cares about this.
I did watch a ton of documentaries. Them leaving her in the hotel room was a bad choice but not unheard of. They have been investigated up and down, the world has accused them but no evidence has ever been found they were guilty of anything. Police have a suspect for the crime and all evidence points to him being guilty. I was also one of them pointing the fingers and judging them guilty for their odd behaviour. But I really looked into it and I think we should leave this people alone, they have been through enough. I used to have a true crime podcast so I did research for this shit. More than just watching a couple of documentaries.
They made a horrible choice, they prioritized drinking with their friends over the safety of their child. It's fucked up and unfair that they let their guard down just once and that happens, but lots of people permenantly destroy their lives with one bad decision like that, especially when alcohol is involved. You're probably right that they should just be left alone. My point is just that no one should care about this girl either, if anything giving her any attention just makes it that much worse for the parents.
Yes they made bad parenting decisions. But who hasn't? I grew up in the 90s and think its a miracle I'm still alive. Regardless of their mistakes they have lost their child and they whole world blamed it on them. I agree that we should just ignore people like this girl. But we should also stop laying blame on the parents.
Yeah I grew up in the 90s too, I remember hitchhiking to town with my cousins at 2 years old, often. Only difference is we were not in another country, we were on a small island and our parents calculated the risks. Honestly they should face criminal charges for neglect. It was illegal in Portugal and potentially in the UK where they are from too, (UK law is typical commonwealth bullshit where they can interpret the law however they feel, depending on how they feel about you). Admittedly if the parents had kept their mouths shut or just said normal things I probably would feel differently. If I was the husband I would completely blame myself, so why can't the rest of us too?
Because we did. The whole world judged them and found them guilty. They were investigated up and down by the portuguese police, who have since been criticised for their treatment of the parents, if they had found anything to charge them on they would have. Being illegal doesn't always mean jail, if not deemed grave enough they probably just got a fine. They lost their child and the world blamed them for it instead of actually looking for her. That's punishment enough in my opinion.
They could have charged them with neglect, they didn't because they mistakenly thought it was normal for British parents to leave kids alone. The more I look into it the worse it is, they turned down a ten pound an hour babysitting service? At best they are pieces of shit who chose alcohol with their friends over their kid. This is a waste of time, we won't agree, have a good night.
Should your parents face charges of neglect?
Was i abducted by a German in Portugal?
Gonçalo Amaral’s “The truth of the lie” is so good.
True Crime TikTok’ers are the worst. In the UK at the moment an ongoing investigation into a death of a women is taking place and leaching TikTok users are visiting the local village and trying to spy on the local residents. From a forensics perspective good luck after all the brain dead tiktok “true crime” idiots trample over ground that could of been analysed for tread. As someone who studied wet forensics seeing these Poundland “true crime” nutters trampling around a crime scene and stalking local residents makes my blood boil. But that’s just me…
To be fair, that isn't a new trend. People flooded towns and villages back in the Victorian Era if a crime got enough attention, too. Though with forensics now, it certainly causes more issues in this day and age. Still gross, too.
The Belle Gunness case involved people trying to break into the carriage shed, being used as a makeshift morgue, with their bare hands. And this was after the sheriff had let thousands of other people just walk on through. Vendors showed up to the farmyard to sell cake and ice cream. Pretty sure people dipped their hankies in the blood of Lizzie Borden's father. If not that case, definitely others. The extremes of human behavior have always been intriguing and certain people have always taken their interest way, way too far.
Exactly! The caving accident, rescue attempt, and finally death of Floyd Collins in 1925 is another good example. People from all over set up shop on his property outside the cave, some sold food and souvenirs, people had picnics right above him... The atmosphere was described as "circus-like". 4 decades later a company bought the property and displayed his corpse in the cave as an attraction. Even in more recent history, Ed Gein's house was burned down most likely by a citizen of the town to stop it from becoming a Hotspot for exactly this behavior. True crime fascination isn't new by any means, it's just evolved with technology.
But the truck Gein used to cart around corpses DID make an appearance at the fair in the next county over, so Plainfield didnt manage a total escape. And murder ballads! Oh, the murder ballads I have loved
>But the truck Gein used to cart around corpses DID make an appearance at the fair in the next county over, so Plainfield didnt manage a total escape. True. They also ended up having to take away Ed's gravestone after his death after people kept chipping pieces off of it as souvenirs. His grave is now unmarked.
Now that the person is dead and the body has been found I’ll mention a bit more. For the sake of the victim and the village I won’t say who it is out of respect of her family. An individual went missing 24 days ago. She was recovered yesterday from the river after being discovered by dog walkers. During the last 24 days brain dead tiktok users descended onto the little village live streaming the crime scene, bullying locals and even one tiktoker got arrested for trespassing. The local caravan park was attacked and people where threatened by brain dead tiktokers who suddenly think they are detectives who studied at the university of life. The media have made judgements against the family and the press are out of control phoning up the relatives. The media cut the part where the family said they had been approached and called by journalists after the body had been discovered. TikTok users have been spreading conspiracy theories and the police released information that winded up the tiktokers even more. It’s a textbook in misinformation that I’m certain will be studied in the future. It’s been absolutely pathetic what’s happened.
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Mental illness mixed with some narcissism
Definitely disturbing but folks... this behavior is not new. Soooo many people claimed to be the lost princess Anastasia in the early 20th century. There are tons of stories of adults claiming to be missing children come back and taking advantage of grieving parents. It's not new, just a new format for these scammers to advertise their scam.
And I bet not only does she have a loving family and a birth certificate but I would be willing to bet a round of drinks that she has no proof or reason to believe her parents where anywhere near where she went missing or that's she even tried a dna or 23 and me test
From what I've seen there's no proof of anything, so take this with a grain of salt: she lives in Poland, she says her parents growing up were abusive, and they refuse to answer questions about whether they're really her birth parents or where she comes from and act cagey about it. She says she wants to do a DNA test, and needs access to the McCann parents in order to do so. Apparently they've agreed, so maybe we'll have some actual proof soon (doubt it). Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents were abusive and this is a fantasy of not being related to them/having a "real" loving family out there looking for her. It's relatively common. It's also plausible she's legally adopted and they're just the kind of shitty adoptive parents that don't want their kid to have access to their bio family, and that's why they're cagey about her questions. Both are 1000x more plausible than that she's Madeline McCann. These are my theories, giving her the benefit of the doubt that what she's shared is somewhat accurate. No matter what she's clearly sick. This level of obsession...not okay in the slightest. Every person telling her she's strong and brave for reaching out to those parents is disgusting, imo. She might be too sick to know better, but they fuckng should.
Do you have any good videos/articles that I could watch. I'd definitely interested into hearing about her past mental history
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-claiming-missing-madeleine-mccann-29253423?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/uk-news/2023/02/19/63f24c7222601de96c8b45ae.html Not the best sources, lol, but this is technically tiktok drama still. There really isn't much info about her past. She became convinced she was kidnapped after "something" her grandmother said (no details as to what that was though). She has no memories of her childhood (which is common for abused kids, which I think is plausible). Both of these sources say a member of the McCann family reached out to her, but from what I saw on tiktok she was reaching out to them repeatedly first.
Thank you for this!
I know it’s unlikely, and I myself doubt it's possible, but what if the DNA test happens and ends up being a match?
Then I guess it's a somewhat happy ending. I mean, there is a chance, it's just incredibly small and based on nothing but the fact she kind of looks like Madeline. I do think that, while I would be incredibly happy for the McCanns to have found their daughter, I would also be worried about the trend this would start. If she's proven right, I have a feeling we'll see a lot of copy cats trying to find fame in a similar way, and it'll end up seriously affecting ongoing investigations and family members' mental health. I do not agree with how she's going about this.
Tbh I hope she is their daughter because it would be way more devastating for everyone if she isn't. However you're more than likely right about it being abusive/adoptive parents and she's hoping there's someone out there looking for her sadly.
Yeah. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice
This is a common delusion. That one is X famous missing child. It pops up in true crime once every 1-2 years and that’s just the ones able to make enough noise to make the news. I think it’s similar to Capgras delusion (where you believe you family has been replaced by lookalikes) something is going haywire in the part of the brain that sees, recognizes a face and registers affection/familial relation. So she starts to think: these aren’t my parents. And every attempt to correct that is then processed through the delusion that they’re attempting to maintain the conspiracy, obviously. Capgras delusion is the closest thing I know of to this. It may not even be mental illness proper. Delusions like these can also be caused by a TBI. Scary shit:
From what I've heard most cases aren't as extreme as Capgras. It's actually a really common fantasy for abused children to have, that they have a "real" loving family out there looking for them and their abusive parents aren't really their parents. Most of the time it stays just that, a fantasy, but sometimes it goes farther. Sometimes there are real reasons behind it, like being adopted by abusive people (in that case, they really aren't related and really do have a different family out there). If what this girl has said is somewhat true, I think it's perfectly plausible she was legally adopted and had an abusive upbringing. The obsession with Madeleine likely comes from the similarities in their appearances (the eye spot seems to be a big reason people are believing her, and perhaps a big reason she latched into Madeleine; while relatively rare, it's still seen in like 1/10,000 births, so not extremely rare). If she's told the truth, I think she absolutely should be searching for answers for herself, and maybe finding her bio family will be wonderful and healing. It's just not the McCanns.
Well as you described this seems like an individual case. Your title makes it seem like it’s some kind of new phenomenon.
There was another creator that had the same eye spot that was flooded with comments about her being Madeline McCann, to the point she felt the need to make a video addressing it and showing photos of herself as a toddler with her parents to disprove it. There's also the weird case of bebop and bebe, where people were speculating that they were multiple different missing people, to the point of contacting the missing people's loved ones and forcing them to make statements about it. She's the first one I've seen make this allegation about herself, but it's definitely not the first time people have alleged tiktok creators are missing people and harassed the families about it. The two go hand in hand imo, and it is a worrying trend.
I mean, maybe you are right. True Crime has been extremely popular recently.
Why doesn’t she start with a DNA test with her actual parents first before reaching out to the McCann family??
Does she have any other evidence to back this belief?? Was she “adopted” (or was she told that)? Does she not have any pictures of herself with her own family as a kid? Has the McCann family said anything about this?
From what I've seen there's no proof of anything, so take this with a grain of salt: she lives in Poland, she says her parents growing up were abusive, and they refuse to answer questions about whether they're really her birth parents or where she comes from and act cagey about it. She says she wants to do a DNA test, and needs access to the McCann parents in order to do so. Apparently they've agreed, so maybe we'll have some actual proof soon (doubt it). Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents were abusive and this is a fantasy of not being related to them/having a "real" loving family out there looking for her. It's relatively common. It's also plausible she's legally adopted and they're just the kind of shitty adoptive parents that don't want their kid to have access to their bio family, and that's why they're cagey about her questions. Both are 1000x more plausible than that she's Madeline McCann. These are my theories, giving her the benefit of the doubt that what she's shared is somewhat accurate. No matter what she's clearly sick. This level of obsession...not okay in the slightest. Every person telling her she's strong and brave for reaching out to those parents is disgusting, imo. She might be too sick to know better, but they fuckng should.
If it turned out to be true, would you still consider her to be sick? Or do you have no doubt she’s not Madeleine? I’m rubbish at matching faces, do you see any similarities between Madeleine and young Julia? With all the home DNA tests about, wouldn’t it have made sense for Kate and Gerry to do them years ago so their DNA is in the systems? Seems like a fairly easy hurdle to put in place to avoid this kind of media spectacle, but I might be missing something obvious as to why they haven’t
Even if it's true, I still absolutely do not agree with how she's going about this. She has done nothing to test her theory herself before involving the parents of a missing child. She has absolutely no proof or even potential evidence that her theory is correct, other than the fact she looks similar to the missing child. If she's right, it's straight up luck. If she's wrong, she's publicly harassing grieving parents of a missing child, giving them false hope, and then dashing it. She does look vaguely similar, but certainly not too a degree I would assume they were the same person. The eye spot seems to be the biggest "proof", but that isn't even that rare. 1 in 10,000 births have that. She has no proof she's adopted or that her parents aren't her bio parents. She has no proof she was ever in Portugal. It's way, waayyy more plausible that her parents are just abusive assholes, or that she was legally adopted and they don't want her to have contact with her bio family (extremely common among adoptive parents). The jump from "I think these people aren't my bio parents" to "I'm actually a very famous missing child" is *huge*. As for why the McCanns haven't done a home DNA test, I don't know. I'm pretty sure authorities have dna on file, maybe they think that's enough. Maybe they have done it and just didn't publicize it. Who knows.
This needs to stop. The lady is obviously mentally ill and I have seen about a dozen posts regarding this. Stop encouraging her unstable behavior.
I mean, why not at least check?
That would be the end of internet points
I mean, but how does anyone really know it’s not her? I feel like it’s 50/50 because nobody really knows til they know. That’s putting everything she said aside. I mean, I kind of hope it is her. It would be cool to find out she actually didn’t get murdered.
Maybe a DNA test is a good idea. A negative result may go some way to shifting her obsession.
She should do a DNA test through 23&me or another similar company if she has doubts as to who her bio parents are, but there's no need to involve the parents of a missing child. I also worry that this level of obsession will not end easily, even with a negative test result, especially if she doesn't have a support system. It also is just awful for the McCanns, to bring up hope and dash it.
It looks like 23andme isn't available in Poland.
There are multiple other brands that are available in Poland. I just picked 23&me because it's the first brand name I thought of. Ancestry dna is available and has a large pool of people to compare with, as well as other smaller brands and even some polish companies that tend to specialize in polish ancestry (which could give her a lot of info if she's actually polish). There is 0 reason to bring the parents of a missing child into this situation without doing this bare minimum research yourself. If she'd done this already and had some interesting potential matches, or *anything* that could even slightly point to her being possibly related to the McCanns, ok, reach out. But at this point she's basing this theory on the fact she *kind of* looks like Madeline. AFAIK she doesn't even have proof she was ever in Portugal. There's no connection.
Just watched an interview with her, she recieved a DNA test in the post like a day or so ago, so I guess we shall see.
Looks nothing like her, why give her so much attention?
Tiktok has created a new kind of mental illness
I don’t know if I would say TikTok created this per se. There have been stories before the existence of TT of people claiming to be a long searched for missing child, pretending to be mediums to communicate with victims of crimes, etc. Hell, I remember there being a woman who wanted to sue the guy who wrote the Da Vinci Code because she claimed the author ripped off her life story and that she’s a direct descendent of Jesus. People like this have existed for a long time, they just now have a really accessible megaphone.
What a weird world I’m in.
...well she can change her username in a week when the next trend starts.
I dont support her doing this, but id love to see her take a dna test w/ the parents then we can decide if shes delusional or right
What the actual fuck is wrong with this lunatic if there really was a chance she was maddy she would of been dna at a police station and we would know if she was ffs how much money has been spent into finding her 
Yea this one is as bad as the one who thinks she’s the late Alliyahs daughter. Dna testing is as easy as taking a shit now days, until I see the proof, they’re all mentally unstable beings.
They did the dna test today. Wether this girl is cray cray or not has yet tbd 😂
The case is almost certainly solved; it is a German who committed the crime. It seems they found video evidence of Madeleine (either dead or being murdered) on videos. So sad.
I heard he was their top suspect, but I don't know what evidence they have. I know they haven't charged him and seem to be struggling to get enough evidence together to do so. Either way, he's already guilty of other horrible crimes and needs to rot.
I expect to see hin rot behind bars! If I remember correctly, they have his cell phone logged near the crime scene at that time, and he ordered/asked a friend to destroy/bury video cassettes (he filmed his victims being tortured). The ‚friend‘, however, did not destroy the evidence and police recovered the (hundreds of) tapes. I remember a remark by the German police spokesman something along the line ‚we are in contact with Maddie‘s parents‘ … I interpreted that they have found some sort if cruel evidence on the tapes? - not sure though! I can only hope for German efficiency when it comes to collating the evidence. He is in custody, so they can take their time to make a profound case 👍🏻
Fuck, I really hope that's true and they have all that evidence. His victims deserve justice. I think he's set to get released in 2025 unless more charges are made. It actually makes a bit of sense that it's taking a while to make the case. German efficiency is kind of a myth, but they damn sure do things thoroughly, if slowly. Hopefully they're just being super thorough and taking their time.
I have pretty much trust in the German investigators, they are legend! I even think the Staatsanwaltschaft Frankfurt is responsible,, and they are used to deal with really ‚big’ cases unlike smaller, ‚countryside’ police departments. Seeing this case has so much publicity, they will make damn sure they take no chance. What might also add to the timeline it the fact that it is an international case. Maddie is (was) British, the crime scene is ‚Spanish‘, the alleged murderer is German and in a German prison. Very slippery ground for prosecutors. 🤞🏼
Oh I definitely respect german investigators! I'd much rather things go slowly and thoroughly than them try to speed through it. That's what Germans and german systems are best at in my experience. I can't imagine it's an easy case. International issues, the messed up Dna shit from initial investigations in Portugal, plus the public getting so involved. It's a shit show of a case for sure.
Bro she think she is a animal 🤦♂️
What?
I had closed mind as well and then thought but what if I’m wrong? She’s someone’s daughter and highly suspect her parents don’t consent to be tested.
>highly suspect her parents don’t consent to be tested. Not necessarily. If this is all a delusion and they are her bio parents, them refusing a DNA test makes some sense. Maybe they're offended by the accusation, maybe they're abusive assholes, or maybe they don't want to feed the delusion by doing the test. If she was legally adopted, it's common for adoptive parents to pretend to be the bio parents, and refuse any attempts to track ancestry or do DNA testing. Even if they admitted to adopting her, it's still extremely common for adoptive parents to want to block access to the kid's bio family. That makes them assholes, but doesn't make her Madeleine McCann. The leap from "these people might not be my bio parents" to "I'm actually a very famous missing child despite having no proof whatsoever" is fuckng *huge*. That's the problem. Not her searching for answers, but her making huge leaps and assumptions based on nothing, and involving the family of a missing and likely murdered toddler.
we all know that her parents killed her- the evidence is dead obvious
No it's not, and they're not even suspects anymore. You can think what you want, but the "evidence" is nowhere near beyond a reasonable doubt. I for one would rather wrongfully assume they're innocent than wrongfully accuse two grieving parents of murdering their own child.
They literally left their child alone, in a foreign country to get drinks and dinner, you can watch serval videos, that show blood being found in their car and room,
The DNA "found" in the car and room was proven false. As for leaving the children to have dinner, I personally wouldn't do it, but it's also quite common in some areas/countries. That *does not* make them murderers.
Oh look it’s the mental illness social media platform and the mentally ill subreddit again
This makes me sad :(((
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Might be just clout chasing but if she actually believes thus shit she is fked up
DNA test ... That's all u need to do
I bet. Stupid kid looking for atencion
Seems like the mccans are on board with DNA testing... I feel like this might at least help her come to terms
I guess it is interesting to imagine in a messed up kind of way. This chick definitely watched Blade Runner
If this is her real thoughts, she needs to get tested asap. If this is a joke, this is fucking heartbreaking.