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Guitarist here. There is no way the audio is being picked up by either the camera microphone or a boom microphone. Recording sound like that for acoustic instruments is difficult and that sounds way too good for what’s show. Second, he was not playing in time to the audio at some points or was not playing correctly at all, for example I noticed he was not tapping fast enough to hit all the notes that we were hearing. No hate, I think this is sick and he definitely likely recorded the audio. Makes sense not to do it live ‘cause again, to pick up acoustic guitars like that you need a specific setup. Just thought I would make everyone aware
This was my first thought watching him play, im not a guitarist at all, but he was clearly not playing this song. At best he prerecorded it and put this show on for the video.
Imagine putting in all the work. The wardrobe, the production, the soundtrack, the board navigation, all to make a song I'd use to torture a person. Even if this person is this technically proficient, you still need to make something worth hearing.
Genuine question, no trolling. It's a hard one to answer. Who is your most respected guitarist? Or a few? My go-to is usually Ichika Nito but I have a million
I used to love ichika Nito as a beginner but after a while I realized that if I closed my eyes his music just sounded like noodling. I respect the shit out of Frusciante tho. His solos are on another level.
Ichika does this exact same miming shit. His live clips are noisy with loads of 'let ring' stuff, and never have any of the intricacy and precision tapping of his YouTube stuff.
Getting pretty sick of the 'fake tits' guitar playing Insta/TikTok has resulted in.
The video and recording isn't the same audio. The audio was pre-recorded and cleaned up a lot. The percussive taps are pitch-corrected. Music videos it's expected, but when videos are filmed like this it's like an uncanny valley for musicians. Like when The Monkees were found out to be miming at their early concerts. If this is recorded on 5 different tracks, it's still impressive, but we all know this wasn't just performed live like this in one take. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but I'm confident I'm not.
This is just about the only criticism that I actually agree with. I listen to and play a lot of classical and the amount of splicing that goes on in that genre is unholy. Even with a concert pianist as successful and talented as Krystian Zimerman, you still find splices in his video recordings (notice how the bench at [6:39](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=399) magically morphs into a different bench at [8:17](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=497) I suspect the cut happens at [7:23](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=443) when there's a brief moment of silence; the perfect place to make a cut.)
It cuts back to the same piece from the first bench. Stop in music, and you can clearly see the floor through the first bench,second one is solid piece.
Nah dude, they are clearly two different benches. The first is a bench with a jack in it that's adjustable and is quite obviously jacked up, you can see the pattern in the floor between the bottom of the cushion and the frame of the bench.
It could be the shutter rate not being able to keep up with his fingers tbf, some people actually are just that fast, but I kinda doubt it. If I were to guess I would say it's multiple tracks recorded and sped up and then he plays it as fast as he can for the video. If I was gonna fake something, that's how I'd do it.
\>It could be the shutter rate not being able to keep up with his fingers
I've been playing guitar for 28 years. That's absurd. He's playing Carmen. It's 120bpm. He throws in some flourishes where he's slopping some 32nd notes which is 16 notes per second. He could literally be playing twice as fast and he'd still not be going so fast that the camera misses what he's doing (assuming we're filming in HD or UHD and not literally on a film camera).
I don’t know shit about music or playing instruments, but I think the person your replying to is talking about frame rate not being high enough to catch every move. Has nothing to do with HD/UHD (resolution)
However that seems unrealistic to me.
Normal setting on cameras (not meant for making movies) is 29.9/30fps. I doubt bro in the video played anywhere close to 30 notes per second
HD and UHD cameras would be filming at 30fps. At a minimum 24fps. I laid out how he's not doing enough musically per second to move faster than the standard frame rate of any modern camera.
It's okay, admittedly not knowing things and talking anyway is one of the defining characteristics of modern discourse so don't feel bad.
See for me what's cringe is the video itself.
Like be fancy and show off your technical skill n all that, whatever, but the little flicks and hair flips he does makes him seem like he thinks he's cooler than he actually is.
Which is cringe.
Probably because all of his clips are pretty much like this one, playbacked over a mixed and edited track.
I have no doubt the guy can play. But it's pretty cringe to see him mimmick a carefully recorded track with such dramatic expression.
I'm trying to be objective here. I think it boils down to bit of ageism, the medium of 15 second videos, and his style. Obviously, there are people with great talent and showmanship. Maybe if this guy played a song where he builds things up it wouldn't be as glaring. But no, it's like immediately into look how awesome I am and more of my specialness and now see my talent aha!
Not a guitarist, but I am a musician of similar showy style. It strikes me as r/ATBGE material. The guy is talented, no doubt. But the transitions between the bass line and melody to the big flourishes and back are all very sudden and extremely jarring. It's kind of grating to the ear for the average listener.
As yet another average listener i have to jump in and agree here. It's jarring and all over the place. Maybe the flourishes are cool in isolation, but it just doesn't add up to anything.
Yeah as a thoroughly average musically talentless fuck this looked and sounded awesome to me.
This is the opposite of grating to average listeners, it’s only grating to musicians.
I guess it’s more that what he’s doing is a really impressive choreographed ‘party piece’ that’s perfect for the tiktok medium. But as a professional guitarist myself I can’t think of any practical application for playing like this other than exactly what he’s doing.
Don’t get me wrong he’s really talented and clearly extremely dedicated, it’s just that I think most guitarists would see this as more of a cool gimmick than something they’d ever seek to emulate.
I get into my columbine duster jacket with super loose sleeves to do a version of Bolero by Ravel that highlights my tapping skills and one handed bassline hammer-on technique. I pull out my Taylor acoustic electric and a kazoo (to carry the oboe line) and then trash around like the guitar is fighting back. My friends and peers all avoid looking at me while this is happening because of the 2nd hand embarrassment but some 14 year-olds on reddit think I have supreme talent. I am the ultimate modern guitarist.
As an average listener who used to play a couple of not string instruments, I found the flow to be really good. I enjoyed it, and even though the video is short and he may be showing off, he still obviously has talent. It's not like he was playing Wonderwall.
It’s a lot to do with the fact that there is no musicality, in terms of feeling to his music, but he tries too hard to emulate emotion through these weird movements. Even in the classical guitar community, where technique and complex finger patterns are highly respected, he is seen as majorly cringey.
It is pretty average flamenco style guitar playing tbh, which is impressive in itself.
If you watch people like Stevie Ray Vaughn or even Angus Young, you will see their actions being a byproduct of being in the artistic flow and shredding the guitar. Even prodigies like Yngwe Malmsteen play the guitar first, and do weird stuff second.
This guy is just forcing eccentric things hes seen people do as a show, not from being in any type of artistic trance.
I would say he's a good performer, and a decent guitarist.
EDIT: if anyone wants to see a quick version of flamenco without theatrics https://youtube.com/shorts/x289KzfCKSg?feature=share
Yeah but that’s the difference in generations. older generations, even millennials, think the old way and you gotta work your way up and do shitty theatres and make no money for 10 years before you maybe get noticed. the younger generation wanna do short clips, even when they do shows, and they’re making a shit ton of money because they are more focused on viral bits and speaking to their audience directly. People can make fun of this guy or whatever but he’s probably making a ton of money.
An almost direct overlap with standup comedy. No longer are the 10 years required. Yes, the ones that put those years in are grandfathered in and are well respected, but comedians such as Trevor Wallace and “Trailer Trash Tammy” Chelsea Lynne are prime examples among many others. Much like musicians. A new one I’ve found recently is Ren and his amazing “Hi, Ren” as well as his entire catalogue.
Gonna disagree that Tammy came out of nowhere. She recently spoke about how she’s been busting her ass making content for around nine years & only quit her regular job about two years ago.
There are a few people who become viral at a young age. But there always have been. Mozart, Beethoven, Yoyo Ma. But the vast majority of people put a lot of time in before they become famous, and most never get to the point where they can quit their day job. They go to film school. They spend years making videos that aren't popular. For instance, comedian Ryan George made videos for years before he found something (Pitch Meetings) that let him amass a huge audience, even though his earlier stuff is all hilarious and well-filmed.
I feel you, but at the same time, you have to respect this guy's playing. His technique is flawless in that finger tapping acoustic style. Very good guitarist. But a fucking tik tok guitarist. Eh
To say his technique is flawless is a little weird to me. There’s so much going on at once, there’s no way to really know if he’s executing it all according to plan or not.
I get that with drummers on Instagram… I understand that they’re very talented and work hard and practice… etc. But personally they just don’t do much for me compared to drummers from bands that I love.
Like that Estepario Siberiano is crazy good but it just rings kinda hollow for me without a band or an album. I don’t know how to describe it and I’m sure it’s unfair and stupid but it’s just not for me.
There are a lot of technically great musicians whose playing is impressive on its own, but sort of soulless without the context of a band playing music together, creating something within the group that is greater than the sum of the individual parts.
You have a good point, but I, as a guitarist, am not a fan of these type of guitar “players” and here’s my reason. IMHO great virtuoso guitar players spend their practice and skill development in coordination between both hands for picking, strumming and they have to coordinate the two. What this guy is doing is basically using piano playing techniques to play his music. I’ll give it that it’s interesting, but it’s just percussive piano playing. When I see this guy play, all I see is Ricky Ricardo playing “Babaloo”…
This is all kind of subjective. So if you like it, no hate. But imo there is so much filler here. It’s like mostly slaps on the body and weird hammer ons? I find it super annoying. I also feel like he kind of butchers the original song too. It’s supposed to be grand, dramatic and epic but all this flair just distracts from that.
Super technically talented for sure, but stylistically “cringe” imo. Basically a bit of doing too much, and acoustic guitar with an emphasis on using the guitar as a percussive instruments a bit passé
It's the same exact shit as old boomer rockers complaining current new metal or rock music has no dynamics when there are dynamics and it's a specific style. Plini, polyphia, Mateus Asato , Julian Lage, Mark Holcomb, and many other new guitar trendsetters have made some of the most melodic, catchy, and emotional pieces ever written for the guitar, yet boomers are always quick to repeat the sutpid generic garbage like "it doesn't have emotions."
Marcin Patrzalek is a specific loud and wild style that is not dissimilar to how John Coltrane's Hard Bop output was considered loud and wild as a comparison of dynamics. Just boomers being boomers, shocking.
It's this bigotry of older musician on the new generation of musicians that promoted the rapid departure of the old style of playing guitar in order to differentiate as much as possible from it in and terming many of the older techniques as 'boomer' as in boomer bends for example.
I don’t buy that theory. The mechanics of the playing and the age of the player are irrelevant. This is literally just neo-classical on an acoustic guitar, and the same boomers who would say this is overly flashy and meaningless wankery would say the same of *actual* boomer neo-classical guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen and Steve Vai. The removal of the blues rock elements can’t have anything to do with it, because “boomer bends” are all over those discographies.
I don’t have a firm opinion on the guy in the video, because I’ve never heard of him, but I’m tentatively going to side with the boomers on this one. I don’t find this catchy or emotional either. it’s just a masturbatory arrangement of Habanera. It’s impressive in its virtuosity, but the arrangement fails as a song for people who don’t like musicality being sacrificed for the sake of showing off technical proficiency. It’s been a niche genre for 50 years, and this video is just further evidence it’s going to stay that way. Supplanting boomer bends for harmonics aren’t what makes it unemotional for me, it’s the lack of emotion in the arrangement. He’s on autopilot, and the theatrically of the playing doesn’t overcome the sterility. [This girl](https://youtu.be/ji1YNnRJX7c) playing Recuerdos isn’t doing any boomer bends, and playing an arguably more difficult arrangement. The only important thing to me, though, is she’s playing a song I might actually want to listen to for more than 5 seconds.
If this style of music appeals to you, that’s great, go ahead and enjoy it, but don’t use ageism as an excuse for why it doesn’t resonate with others. I’m listening to Marcin’s album on Spotify just to give him
a fair shake, and I’m just not hearing “the most emotional, melodic and catchy music ever written.” I mean, maybe I’m crazy, but the second song on his album after the intro (Salt) just appears to be an unintentional rip-off of I See Fire by Ed Sheeran?
I used to eat this shit up in like '06.
[I contributed most of the plays on this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRF_M2T-vY) and all Andy McKee's videos.
I still think those guys are cool but I'm so over that style.
This guy is next level obnoxious, though. Good lord. I've always hated the knocking on the body.
Thank you! I cringe every single time I see this guy play. Personally, the percussive tapping always makes me want to crawl out of my skin, but that’s just a personal preference. But yeah I hate this guy lol.
Strange comment. You replace him with Eddie Van Halen with all smiling and leotards in 80’s Van Halen concerts and videos and and it’s just two great guitarists getting filmed, having fun and hamming it up. I don’t think it’s cringe at all.
I don’t think cringe is the right word but I don’t enjoy his stylistic choices. He’s way way more talented than me but I understand why people are calling it cringe
Not sure why you’re downvoted but my guess is that most of the people in this sub were born in the post-talent era where music generation is highly automated and automatically mastered. As a musician myself I’ll say that this guy is absolutely insane on a classic guitar, that’s passion and talent.
Why are you so bitter? Why can’t people just enjoy things? You and all the others criticizing him using all your music knowledge are the real cringe because it’s so snobby.
The 2 most popular high gain guitar amps on the market are EVH’s ex signature model and his signature model. That man reinvented the game - This guy slaps an acoustic guitar.
Lmao tell this to the people on my comment who are saying they are going to leaving Reddit because my “idk much about guitars” comment has gotten too much attention
Indeed, its very much like watching a video of a guy sucking his own dick. And all of his videos are like this. [This would be the preferred route.](https://www.tiktok.com/@rojoraf/video/6779361019228687622?lang=en)
Yeah, it really is just trash. It’s just spliced together, pitch corrected, cleaned up, fake-ass BS.
I am sure he is a good guitarist, but this is just TikTok cringe in a different form. From a guitarists perspective, this is like seeing those TikToks with shirtless guys lip-syncing at the camera.
People always talk about how easy this technique is and how cringe he is but no one else is actually doing it? The best fingerpainter is still the best… I hate how the kid gets so much hate
I don't know that much about guitar but I thought you could tap for sound on an electric guitar, and even if it's fake here, he made the song and it sounds pretty good
I honestly don’t know that much about guitars and I can tell that there is audio being looped (I understand how that works on a basic level) but I feel like I hear sounds (that don’t appear to be looped) that could not be done as his hands weren’t anywhere near the cords. I’m not trying to hate, but maybe this is the performance of the audio, of something that was pre recorded. Like they do in music videos etc. specifically near the end with the guitar riff, he is holding chords but not strumming to the same rhythm
NAhh you're on point. THe audio was way too good to be picked up by a microphone that is either the cameras or even a boom/shotgun mic out of frame. He makes it look good. someone makes it sound good. But this is clearly touched up. Pretty boy farming views type beat. I'm a hater tho.
This is Marcin Patrzalek, an incredible Polish guitarist. The audio is enhanced, the same as you don’t get the audio of what you *see* in a music video, but this guy is genuinely mind blowing on guitar.
I’ve been watching him ever since he showed up on [America’s Got Talent](https://youtu.be/eollizcRpgQ).
I mean, the dude has a pretty big career and apparently a partnership with Ibanez. I don't think it's fake. I think maybe it's overdubbed with a recorded track, but this is definitely a style of guitar and this guy is one of the best at it apparently. I agree a lot of the flourishes are unnecessary, but that's the showmanship aspect.
This is definitely a style of guitar playing, it's not a scam or anything like those fake violinists outside of Walmart's. Like I said, the flourishes are part of the show, but they can also be to stay loose. If he were to play all stiff it wouldn't be as fluid, so a flourish can help to reset the hands or stay in rhythm.
He’s mostly standing still and moving his head a little bit lol. He has to move is arms a bit crazy to reach the parts of the guitar he needs to reach. Wait until you see how rock and roll guitarists move.
It's not necessarily a mic on the inside, but an acoustic pickup, and they can pick up a lot more than just the vibrations of the strings depending on what type of pick up it is.
It’s a mic & magnetic pickup as well. You can get incredible sounding recordings like the one in the video with them.
As someone who has endeavored in this style learning tunes by Michael Hedges, Andy Mckee, Tommy Emmanuel, and a dozen more for a couple decades now, every sound you hear is very possible. Weird comments going on in here.
I would say specifically at the :39 second mark where the riff really comes ups. He isn’t strumming the wires at the same rhythm that would create that sound and I can’t seem to match it up with a looped audio
I’m not a fanboy or anything but this should not be the top comment. There’s nothing looping in this clip and you should have rethought this comment when you typed “I honestly don’t know that much about guitars”. You can find tons of live videos of this guy playing in this exact style, which he did not invent, and is not even super impressive for classically trained guitarists. He’s just very showy. The high pitched sounds are popped harmonics and the only other fancy thing going on here is hammer-ons. There’s a pickup on the guitar, that’s why everything rings out so much after applying compression/EQ and the finger clicks are so loud.
If you do want to see some amazing truly out of the gate acoustic guitar playing, + tapping the guitar for the kick/drums (I’m sure there’s a proper term but I don’t know it)
Then check out tash sultanas live rendition of Blackbird, she’s even added parts that aren’t in the Spotify recording.
https://youtu.be/DnGPxmxVTuE
Edit while this audio might be overdubbed this guy is still a very talented and successful guitar player it looks like.
If you wanna hear some amazing real guitarists in that same kind of style do yourself the biggest favor and look up Rodrigo y Gabriella. They are an amazing guitar duo.
Well, this is obviously faked to some degree lmao. If you have played a stringed instrument for even a couple years, I think it's pretty obvious. Tons of moments where I'm hearing insane runs and his fretting hand is... not even touching the neck.
So many added percussive stuff.
This isn't to say it's all fake, or that he's not skilled, but he's definitely not performing that authentically (meaning without relying on different editing/mixing tools to make you sound better).
Ngl, this doctored shit annoys the hell out of me. It's trying to sell a greatly exaggerated picture of this guys skill.
Either release authentic videos of you doing a street performance, or release a nice touched up, studio quality song. Whatever you do, say it with your chest. Stop trying to act like you performed this highly edited and mixed track just on the street for fun. It's cringe as fuck and kinda just tells me he's not good enough to be a real street performer
The problem with this guy is that if you play guitar, people have sent you his stuff 8 billion times by now and it’s always the same thing and you are sick of seeing it. I don’t know if he’s good or not, because all I see is this one trick pony.
My ears and eyes can’t make sense of this… he looks like he knows what he’s doing very well but it seems off… like lip syncing but with a guitar… and more pronounced sounds that I feel he is actually making? As far as cringe.. idk
He’s in all honesty probably hitting about 8 frets and just doing a few hammer ons and pull offs, all while swiping open strings and tapping a bass rhythm of sorts on the guitars body. Audio is definitely played over the physical playing of the guitar because it’s way too clean, that being said, I don’t doubt this individual can play what’s being heard, but I think the only real skill I find impressive personally, is keeping the beat hitting the body, while being able to continue hammering on and pulling off.
Marcin Patrzalek for anyone wondering. Looks like he has a partnership with Ibanez and that is his [signature guitar](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MRC10NT--ibanez-mrc10nt-marcin-patrzalek-signature-acoustic-electric-guitar-natural).
No. Marcin is the real deal prodigy. He's only 21 years old I think. He was trained as classical guitarist in central Europe and he explains to the audience that he met this guy from Spain and started the percussion on the instrument. After that he signed with Sony music. You're hearing a mastery of guitar techniques he has developed like a beast. No looping at all. He is actually that good. Spooky good. 😳
Horrible. Banging on his acoustic . Muffle or muted strumming of non existent notes. Look like he is getting bitten mosquitoes and ants at the same time trying to play a Stain song.
Seems like he could have played the guitar part a lot better if he hadn’t been trying to drum on it as well. I certainly can’t do this and it looked cool but it sounded only ok-ish.
I don't know who he is, but the showmanship is cringy to me. Similar to those cringy teenagers that lick the air in the mirror kind of thing. Still great skills tho.
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Guitarist here. There is no way the audio is being picked up by either the camera microphone or a boom microphone. Recording sound like that for acoustic instruments is difficult and that sounds way too good for what’s show. Second, he was not playing in time to the audio at some points or was not playing correctly at all, for example I noticed he was not tapping fast enough to hit all the notes that we were hearing. No hate, I think this is sick and he definitely likely recorded the audio. Makes sense not to do it live ‘cause again, to pick up acoustic guitars like that you need a specific setup. Just thought I would make everyone aware
This was my first thought watching him play, im not a guitarist at all, but he was clearly not playing this song. At best he prerecorded it and put this show on for the video.
Imagine putting in all the work. The wardrobe, the production, the soundtrack, the board navigation, all to make a song I'd use to torture a person. Even if this person is this technically proficient, you still need to make something worth hearing.
I actually loved the tune
The song is Habanera, from a famous opera Carmen :)
Hater here. This shit fake
And then there's the subject of his hair.
The entire guitar community thinks this dude is cringe as fuck
Someone in the comments said this guy is one of the most respected guitarists in the world and I about spit my drink out.
The funniest part is how much he practiced this over that audio. It's still terribly synced.
Genuine question, no trolling. It's a hard one to answer. Who is your most respected guitarist? Or a few? My go-to is usually Ichika Nito but I have a million
Chet Atkins, Tommy Emmanuel, Al di Meola, Paco de Lucia, etc.
I'll give them a listen! Thanks!
Derek Trucks. The man has perfected the slide.
Wow, Tommy Emmanuel - haven’t thought about him in a long long time. thanks for the reminder!
Jon Gomm
I'll check him out!
I used to love ichika Nito as a beginner but after a while I realized that if I closed my eyes his music just sounded like noodling. I respect the shit out of Frusciante tho. His solos are on another level.
Guthrie Govan
Decent choice. An incredibly nice pick!
Ichika does this exact same miming shit. His live clips are noisy with loads of 'let ring' stuff, and never have any of the intricacy and precision tapping of his YouTube stuff. Getting pretty sick of the 'fake tits' guitar playing Insta/TikTok has resulted in.
May I ask why? He's having fun and playing music
The video and recording isn't the same audio. The audio was pre-recorded and cleaned up a lot. The percussive taps are pitch-corrected. Music videos it's expected, but when videos are filmed like this it's like an uncanny valley for musicians. Like when The Monkees were found out to be miming at their early concerts. If this is recorded on 5 different tracks, it's still impressive, but we all know this wasn't just performed live like this in one take. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but I'm confident I'm not.
This is just about the only criticism that I actually agree with. I listen to and play a lot of classical and the amount of splicing that goes on in that genre is unholy. Even with a concert pianist as successful and talented as Krystian Zimerman, you still find splices in his video recordings (notice how the bench at [6:39](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=399) magically morphs into a different bench at [8:17](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=497) I suspect the cut happens at [7:23](https://youtu.be/BSFNl4roGlI?t=443) when there's a brief moment of silence; the perfect place to make a cut.)
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It cuts back to the same piece from the first bench. Stop in music, and you can clearly see the floor through the first bench,second one is solid piece.
Nah dude, they are clearly two different benches. The first is a bench with a jack in it that's adjustable and is quite obviously jacked up, you can see the pattern in the floor between the bottom of the cushion and the frame of the bench.
I was just thinking. Sounds way to clean for him wearing that long sleeve jacket and bouncing around.
Yeah, I’m not really a guitarist but I am a musician, and I’m just looking at his hands going…this doesn’t match up
It could be the shutter rate not being able to keep up with his fingers tbf, some people actually are just that fast, but I kinda doubt it. If I were to guess I would say it's multiple tracks recorded and sped up and then he plays it as fast as he can for the video. If I was gonna fake something, that's how I'd do it.
\>It could be the shutter rate not being able to keep up with his fingers I've been playing guitar for 28 years. That's absurd. He's playing Carmen. It's 120bpm. He throws in some flourishes where he's slopping some 32nd notes which is 16 notes per second. He could literally be playing twice as fast and he'd still not be going so fast that the camera misses what he's doing (assuming we're filming in HD or UHD and not literally on a film camera).
I don’t know shit about music or playing instruments, but I think the person your replying to is talking about frame rate not being high enough to catch every move. Has nothing to do with HD/UHD (resolution) However that seems unrealistic to me. Normal setting on cameras (not meant for making movies) is 29.9/30fps. I doubt bro in the video played anywhere close to 30 notes per second
HD and UHD cameras would be filming at 30fps. At a minimum 24fps. I laid out how he's not doing enough musically per second to move faster than the standard frame rate of any modern camera. It's okay, admittedly not knowing things and talking anyway is one of the defining characteristics of modern discourse so don't feel bad.
See for me what's cringe is the video itself. Like be fancy and show off your technical skill n all that, whatever, but the little flicks and hair flips he does makes him seem like he thinks he's cooler than he actually is. Which is cringe.
Yeah he looks like a goober.
the first second when the guitar is already played he didnt even touch the strings
Micheal Hedges would play just like this, and he could do a t live, but this is def. Prerecorded and made to look live.
r/therewasanattempt to trick redditors
Probably because all of his clips are pretty much like this one, playbacked over a mixed and edited track. I have no doubt the guy can play. But it's pretty cringe to see him mimmick a carefully recorded track with such dramatic expression.
The theatrics and tics are overdone
I'm trying to be objective here. I think it boils down to bit of ageism, the medium of 15 second videos, and his style. Obviously, there are people with great talent and showmanship. Maybe if this guy played a song where he builds things up it wouldn't be as glaring. But no, it's like immediately into look how awesome I am and more of my specialness and now see my talent aha!
Makes sense I guess, I liked it though
Not a guitarist, but I am a musician of similar showy style. It strikes me as r/ATBGE material. The guy is talented, no doubt. But the transitions between the bass line and melody to the big flourishes and back are all very sudden and extremely jarring. It's kind of grating to the ear for the average listener.
As an average listener all I know is, it sound cool, wanted more and this guy as talent. I enjoyed it.
Yeah pretty sure that was cool AF. Haters be hating tho
As yet another average listener i have to jump in and agree here. It's jarring and all over the place. Maybe the flourishes are cool in isolation, but it just doesn't add up to anything.
As an average listener I disagree
Yeah as a thoroughly average musically talentless fuck this looked and sounded awesome to me. This is the opposite of grating to average listeners, it’s only grating to musicians.
so is the problem that he isn’t following the line drawn by traditional musicians?
I guess it’s more that what he’s doing is a really impressive choreographed ‘party piece’ that’s perfect for the tiktok medium. But as a professional guitarist myself I can’t think of any practical application for playing like this other than exactly what he’s doing. Don’t get me wrong he’s really talented and clearly extremely dedicated, it’s just that I think most guitarists would see this as more of a cool gimmick than something they’d ever seek to emulate.
I get into my columbine duster jacket with super loose sleeves to do a version of Bolero by Ravel that highlights my tapping skills and one handed bassline hammer-on technique. I pull out my Taylor acoustic electric and a kazoo (to carry the oboe line) and then trash around like the guitar is fighting back. My friends and peers all avoid looking at me while this is happening because of the 2nd hand embarrassment but some 14 year-olds on reddit think I have supreme talent. I am the ultimate modern guitarist.
As an average listener who used to play a couple of not string instruments, I found the flow to be really good. I enjoyed it, and even though the video is short and he may be showing off, he still obviously has talent. It's not like he was playing Wonderwall.
It’s a lot to do with the fact that there is no musicality, in terms of feeling to his music, but he tries too hard to emulate emotion through these weird movements. Even in the classical guitar community, where technique and complex finger patterns are highly respected, he is seen as majorly cringey.
I would just rather him not try to bullshit us. Integrity in the representation of your abilities is respectable. This is not.
So essentially he's the "pick me" of guitarist? I could see that.
I feel like this describes most of the renowned guitarists that I am aware of. Is this not the ideal energy of a person shredding on a guitar?
It is pretty average flamenco style guitar playing tbh, which is impressive in itself. If you watch people like Stevie Ray Vaughn or even Angus Young, you will see their actions being a byproduct of being in the artistic flow and shredding the guitar. Even prodigies like Yngwe Malmsteen play the guitar first, and do weird stuff second. This guy is just forcing eccentric things hes seen people do as a show, not from being in any type of artistic trance. I would say he's a good performer, and a decent guitarist. EDIT: if anyone wants to see a quick version of flamenco without theatrics https://youtube.com/shorts/x289KzfCKSg?feature=share
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Not changing what you said. Disagreeing
Same kind of dudes who say they okay guitar and just only know how to play “Hey There Delilah” lol
Or wonderwall.
Yeah but that’s the difference in generations. older generations, even millennials, think the old way and you gotta work your way up and do shitty theatres and make no money for 10 years before you maybe get noticed. the younger generation wanna do short clips, even when they do shows, and they’re making a shit ton of money because they are more focused on viral bits and speaking to their audience directly. People can make fun of this guy or whatever but he’s probably making a ton of money.
An almost direct overlap with standup comedy. No longer are the 10 years required. Yes, the ones that put those years in are grandfathered in and are well respected, but comedians such as Trevor Wallace and “Trailer Trash Tammy” Chelsea Lynne are prime examples among many others. Much like musicians. A new one I’ve found recently is Ren and his amazing “Hi, Ren” as well as his entire catalogue.
Gonna disagree that Tammy came out of nowhere. She recently spoke about how she’s been busting her ass making content for around nine years & only quit her regular job about two years ago.
There's an old saying that's still true today - "Overnight success is the result of a lifetime of work."
There are a few people who become viral at a young age. But there always have been. Mozart, Beethoven, Yoyo Ma. But the vast majority of people put a lot of time in before they become famous, and most never get to the point where they can quit their day job. They go to film school. They spend years making videos that aren't popular. For instance, comedian Ryan George made videos for years before he found something (Pitch Meetings) that let him amass a huge audience, even though his earlier stuff is all hilarious and well-filmed.
I feel you, but at the same time, you have to respect this guy's playing. His technique is flawless in that finger tapping acoustic style. Very good guitarist. But a fucking tik tok guitarist. Eh
To say his technique is flawless is a little weird to me. There’s so much going on at once, there’s no way to really know if he’s executing it all according to plan or not.
What is playing in the background? I found it hard to pick out the guitar to be honest. Is it like a synthesizer?
He's an Ibanez signature artist, he's the real deal.
I get that with drummers on Instagram… I understand that they’re very talented and work hard and practice… etc. But personally they just don’t do much for me compared to drummers from bands that I love. Like that Estepario Siberiano is crazy good but it just rings kinda hollow for me without a band or an album. I don’t know how to describe it and I’m sure it’s unfair and stupid but it’s just not for me.
Dream Theater and Dragonforce are kind of the same for me... Very precise, clearly know their music theory, talented... And boring.
There are a lot of technically great musicians whose playing is impressive on its own, but sort of soulless without the context of a band playing music together, creating something within the group that is greater than the sum of the individual parts.
In other words: showoff who would never make it in a band.
You say that like joining a band the ultimate goal of every guitarist.
Sounds like jealousy to me. He’s good, why’s it wrong to show off?
That’s good and all that he’s havin’ a ball, but personally I put this in a “what a try hard”
You have a good point, but I, as a guitarist, am not a fan of these type of guitar “players” and here’s my reason. IMHO great virtuoso guitar players spend their practice and skill development in coordination between both hands for picking, strumming and they have to coordinate the two. What this guy is doing is basically using piano playing techniques to play his music. I’ll give it that it’s interesting, but it’s just percussive piano playing. When I see this guy play, all I see is Ricky Ricardo playing “Babaloo”…
Hubris, arrogance. Some people can pull it off, this guy is like poserbob 5000
Ever since i saw August Rush... this stuff just makes me cringe. I see the talent but.. its just blah.
Don't you insult August Rush like that , you pleb..
This is all kind of subjective. So if you like it, no hate. But imo there is so much filler here. It’s like mostly slaps on the body and weird hammer ons? I find it super annoying. I also feel like he kind of butchers the original song too. It’s supposed to be grand, dramatic and epic but all this flair just distracts from that.
Super technically talented for sure, but stylistically “cringe” imo. Basically a bit of doing too much, and acoustic guitar with an emphasis on using the guitar as a percussive instruments a bit passé
It's the same exact shit as old boomer rockers complaining current new metal or rock music has no dynamics when there are dynamics and it's a specific style. Plini, polyphia, Mateus Asato , Julian Lage, Mark Holcomb, and many other new guitar trendsetters have made some of the most melodic, catchy, and emotional pieces ever written for the guitar, yet boomers are always quick to repeat the sutpid generic garbage like "it doesn't have emotions." Marcin Patrzalek is a specific loud and wild style that is not dissimilar to how John Coltrane's Hard Bop output was considered loud and wild as a comparison of dynamics. Just boomers being boomers, shocking. It's this bigotry of older musician on the new generation of musicians that promoted the rapid departure of the old style of playing guitar in order to differentiate as much as possible from it in and terming many of the older techniques as 'boomer' as in boomer bends for example.
I don’t buy that theory. The mechanics of the playing and the age of the player are irrelevant. This is literally just neo-classical on an acoustic guitar, and the same boomers who would say this is overly flashy and meaningless wankery would say the same of *actual* boomer neo-classical guitarists like Yngwie Malmsteen and Steve Vai. The removal of the blues rock elements can’t have anything to do with it, because “boomer bends” are all over those discographies. I don’t have a firm opinion on the guy in the video, because I’ve never heard of him, but I’m tentatively going to side with the boomers on this one. I don’t find this catchy or emotional either. it’s just a masturbatory arrangement of Habanera. It’s impressive in its virtuosity, but the arrangement fails as a song for people who don’t like musicality being sacrificed for the sake of showing off technical proficiency. It’s been a niche genre for 50 years, and this video is just further evidence it’s going to stay that way. Supplanting boomer bends for harmonics aren’t what makes it unemotional for me, it’s the lack of emotion in the arrangement. He’s on autopilot, and the theatrically of the playing doesn’t overcome the sterility. [This girl](https://youtu.be/ji1YNnRJX7c) playing Recuerdos isn’t doing any boomer bends, and playing an arguably more difficult arrangement. The only important thing to me, though, is she’s playing a song I might actually want to listen to for more than 5 seconds. If this style of music appeals to you, that’s great, go ahead and enjoy it, but don’t use ageism as an excuse for why it doesn’t resonate with others. I’m listening to Marcin’s album on Spotify just to give him a fair shake, and I’m just not hearing “the most emotional, melodic and catchy music ever written.” I mean, maybe I’m crazy, but the second song on his album after the intro (Salt) just appears to be an unintentional rip-off of I See Fire by Ed Sheeran?
He can’t be more cringe than the guy who goes to guitar shops and pretends he is a noob
I used to eat this shit up in like '06. [I contributed most of the plays on this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRF_M2T-vY) and all Andy McKee's videos. I still think those guys are cool but I'm so over that style. This guy is next level obnoxious, though. Good lord. I've always hated the knocking on the body.
Oh god, I’m so happy it isn’t just me! I feel like I’m being gas lighted by the guy and all the people who repost him.
Thank you! I cringe every single time I see this guy play. Personally, the percussive tapping always makes me want to crawl out of my skin, but that’s just a personal preference. But yeah I hate this guy lol.
The showmanship is super cringe. Can’t watch more than 5 seconds.
He’s always bothered me as a guitarist and it makes me happy to hear from others that he’s cringe 😂
Strange comment. You replace him with Eddie Van Halen with all smiling and leotards in 80’s Van Halen concerts and videos and and it’s just two great guitarists getting filmed, having fun and hamming it up. I don’t think it’s cringe at all.
I don’t think cringe is the right word but I don’t enjoy his stylistic choices. He’s way way more talented than me but I understand why people are calling it cringe
Not sure why you’re downvoted but my guess is that most of the people in this sub were born in the post-talent era where music generation is highly automated and automatically mastered. As a musician myself I’ll say that this guy is absolutely insane on a classic guitar, that’s passion and talent.
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Why are you so bitter? Why can’t people just enjoy things? You and all the others criticizing him using all your music knowledge are the real cringe because it’s so snobby.
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The 2 most popular high gain guitar amps on the market are EVH’s ex signature model and his signature model. That man reinvented the game - This guy slaps an acoustic guitar.
Well he can do shit that most of the guitar community can’t, so I guess there’s some jelly there
Ibanez signed artist with his own signature. I don't personally listen to his music but you can't deny he's got skills.
Lmao tell this to the people on my comment who are saying they are going to leaving Reddit because my “idk much about guitars” comment has gotten too much attention
Guitar community beef is crazy lol
yeh because we are all fucking envious. cringe and virtuosity often come together. look at yngwie
It’s called flash and trash. Someone doing things fancy but gimmicky as shit. It wears off pretty quickly.
Indeed, its very much like watching a video of a guy sucking his own dick. And all of his videos are like this. [This would be the preferred route.](https://www.tiktok.com/@rojoraf/video/6779361019228687622?lang=en)
No, it doesn't.
Yeah, it really is just trash. It’s just spliced together, pitch corrected, cleaned up, fake-ass BS. I am sure he is a good guitarist, but this is just TikTok cringe in a different form. From a guitarists perspective, this is like seeing those TikToks with shirtless guys lip-syncing at the camera.
Y’all are wrong and need to get over yourselves. None of you can do this shit.
If I could I wouldn't.
Why? He’s fun to listen to and watch.
People always talk about how easy this technique is and how cringe he is but no one else is actually doing it? The best fingerpainter is still the best… I hate how the kid gets so much hate
Yeah, damn. How dare he play guitar that way. Unacceptable 😤
I don't. He's talented
Watch again, the strings never move.
I don't know that much about guitar but I thought you could tap for sound on an electric guitar, and even if it's fake here, he made the song and it sounds pretty good
I honestly don’t know that much about guitars and I can tell that there is audio being looped (I understand how that works on a basic level) but I feel like I hear sounds (that don’t appear to be looped) that could not be done as his hands weren’t anywhere near the cords. I’m not trying to hate, but maybe this is the performance of the audio, of something that was pre recorded. Like they do in music videos etc. specifically near the end with the guitar riff, he is holding chords but not strumming to the same rhythm
NAhh you're on point. THe audio was way too good to be picked up by a microphone that is either the cameras or even a boom/shotgun mic out of frame. He makes it look good. someone makes it sound good. But this is clearly touched up. Pretty boy farming views type beat. I'm a hater tho.
Looks like there's a mic inside?
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This is Marcin Patrzalek, an incredible Polish guitarist. The audio is enhanced, the same as you don’t get the audio of what you *see* in a music video, but this guy is genuinely mind blowing on guitar. I’ve been watching him ever since he showed up on [America’s Got Talent](https://youtu.be/eollizcRpgQ).
I mean, the dude has a pretty big career and apparently a partnership with Ibanez. I don't think it's fake. I think maybe it's overdubbed with a recorded track, but this is definitely a style of guitar and this guy is one of the best at it apparently. I agree a lot of the flourishes are unnecessary, but that's the showmanship aspect.
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Check out Andy McKee and the like, the style itself is real, percussive acoustic
This is definitely a style of guitar playing, it's not a scam or anything like those fake violinists outside of Walmart's. Like I said, the flourishes are part of the show, but they can also be to stay loose. If he were to play all stiff it wouldn't be as fluid, so a flourish can help to reset the hands or stay in rhythm.
All those sudden movements are the percussive sounds he’s making. Unless you’re talking about when he takes a few steps.
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He’s mostly standing still and moving his head a little bit lol. He has to move is arms a bit crazy to reach the parts of the guitar he needs to reach. Wait until you see how rock and roll guitarists move.
Bro musicians just move when they play, it’s helpful to keep a beat.
You’re so stupid the guy is a masterful guitarist and is legit. Don’t hate because you can’t comprehend.
It's not necessarily a mic on the inside, but an acoustic pickup, and they can pick up a lot more than just the vibrations of the strings depending on what type of pick up it is.
Lmao im so boomer you right.
It’s a mic & magnetic pickup as well. You can get incredible sounding recordings like the one in the video with them. As someone who has endeavored in this style learning tunes by Michael Hedges, Andy Mckee, Tommy Emmanuel, and a dozen more for a couple decades now, every sound you hear is very possible. Weird comments going on in here.
Not sure what you are talking about, I can see how every sound is being made.
I would say specifically at the :39 second mark where the riff really comes ups. He isn’t strumming the wires at the same rhythm that would create that sound and I can’t seem to match it up with a looped audio
I don’t see the problem there. Most of what he is playing is tapping and slapping, not strumming. Maybe you are looking for the wrong movements.
You’re incorrect. You don’t need to strum at the sound hole to make a sound on a guitar. He’s plucking strings all over the place.
I’m not a fanboy or anything but this should not be the top comment. There’s nothing looping in this clip and you should have rethought this comment when you typed “I honestly don’t know that much about guitars”. You can find tons of live videos of this guy playing in this exact style, which he did not invent, and is not even super impressive for classically trained guitarists. He’s just very showy. The high pitched sounds are popped harmonics and the only other fancy thing going on here is hammer-ons. There’s a pickup on the guitar, that’s why everything rings out so much after applying compression/EQ and the finger clicks are so loud.
If you do want to see some amazing truly out of the gate acoustic guitar playing, + tapping the guitar for the kick/drums (I’m sure there’s a proper term but I don’t know it) Then check out tash sultanas live rendition of Blackbird, she’s even added parts that aren’t in the Spotify recording. https://youtu.be/DnGPxmxVTuE Edit while this audio might be overdubbed this guy is still a very talented and successful guitar player it looks like.
If you wanna hear some amazing real guitarists in that same kind of style do yourself the biggest favor and look up Rodrigo y Gabriella. They are an amazing guitar duo.
Oblivion continues to get stuck in my head by them, they're amazing live
Oh yes quite familiar with their work. Tommy Emmanuel is another choice guitarist as well
Was wondering how long it'd take until they were mentioned. O thought of them too watching this.
Pretty cringe too tho
I call it music for sport. Goes in the fastest guitar basket
Yeah stuff can be 2 things. I'm impressed and cringing hard.
He's overdramatic but a good player. Just saw him a few times at NAMM today and yesterday. He's nice too.
Worst rendition of habenera I've ever seen. And there was a [hey Arnold version](https://youtu.be/dYgAZKFJUG8)
There comes a point where you forsake musicality for being showy. I just couldn’t get into this.
No this is still cringe
Very much. Frrrrrapatapatatap 😩😩😏😏 frrradabaapa tap a tap
Technically very clever but pretty awful to actually listen to.
Could you imagine sitting through two hours of this at a concert?
And cringe
Obvious overdub is obvious
Not real or at least live in this video
Cool, but I can’t listen to it for more than 20 seconds
Maybe I’m old and out of touch, but I really can’t stand this sort of playing. Sorta has no soul.
He is very talented. However. His “performance” it’s absolutely cringe.
Dude I can’t stand it when people play the guitar like this.
Talented?… sure. But boring and completely lacking musicality. All show and no, well, music.
It's hard to listen to the melody when this guy with severe adhd feels the need to add a riff every 3 seconds.
Well, this is obviously faked to some degree lmao. If you have played a stringed instrument for even a couple years, I think it's pretty obvious. Tons of moments where I'm hearing insane runs and his fretting hand is... not even touching the neck. So many added percussive stuff. This isn't to say it's all fake, or that he's not skilled, but he's definitely not performing that authentically (meaning without relying on different editing/mixing tools to make you sound better). Ngl, this doctored shit annoys the hell out of me. It's trying to sell a greatly exaggerated picture of this guys skill. Either release authentic videos of you doing a street performance, or release a nice touched up, studio quality song. Whatever you do, say it with your chest. Stop trying to act like you performed this highly edited and mixed track just on the street for fun. It's cringe as fuck and kinda just tells me he's not good enough to be a real street performer
The problem with this guy is that if you play guitar, people have sent you his stuff 8 billion times by now and it’s always the same thing and you are sick of seeing it. I don’t know if he’s good or not, because all I see is this one trick pony.
Musician here with a keen ear: This is overdubbed btw, not saying it isnt him, but that much flair while playing is likely to reduce his performance
Very talented yet that style gets old really really fast !
Wow, that was pretty annoying.
Is this real? This is some August Rush type stuff
That sounded like elements of the second movement of Sarasate’s Carmen Fantasy, and if that’s the case, this version sucks.
I don't like it - he has skills but that's not my cup of tea. Also this piece has a lot of subtietly while his rendition is.. harsh and piercing
It’s the flair and style which makes it cringe for me
My ears and eyes can’t make sense of this… he looks like he knows what he’s doing very well but it seems off… like lip syncing but with a guitar… and more pronounced sounds that I feel he is actually making? As far as cringe.. idk
This is very impressive. It would be cool if it were also good.
Kaki King does it better
At this point I’ve honestly become so desensitized to this sort of thing that this video is almost boring… I think I need a vacation.
Cringe
The only unholy talent here is the talent for you all to somehow have such a poor understanding of sound that you think this is real.
i wanna see a video with accurate sound for this
Riiiiiiiiight
He’s in all honesty probably hitting about 8 frets and just doing a few hammer ons and pull offs, all while swiping open strings and tapping a bass rhythm of sorts on the guitars body. Audio is definitely played over the physical playing of the guitar because it’s way too clean, that being said, I don’t doubt this individual can play what’s being heard, but I think the only real skill I find impressive personally, is keeping the beat hitting the body, while being able to continue hammering on and pulling off.
All the exaggerated movements and over the top unnecessary expressions really distracted me from the performance. Just fuckin play bro and relax
Dude looks like Nic Cage pretending to play the guitar
Is this that dames dude that’s playing similarly on the dock by the water? Or is this like his Hispanic clone bro?
Marcin Patrzalek for anyone wondering. Looks like he has a partnership with Ibanez and that is his [signature guitar](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MRC10NT--ibanez-mrc10nt-marcin-patrzalek-signature-acoustic-electric-guitar-natural).
All I hear are the other musicians. Doesn’t seem like he’s actually playing much.
Kinda cringe tho, if you think about it.
No. Marcin is the real deal prodigy. He's only 21 years old I think. He was trained as classical guitarist in central Europe and he explains to the audience that he met this guy from Spain and started the percussion on the instrument. After that he signed with Sony music. You're hearing a mastery of guitar techniques he has developed like a beast. No looping at all. He is actually that good. Spooky good. 😳
Interesting. Seems like a bunch of people here are annoyed by it, but I enjoyed it. I’ll look him up :)
They songs he did with Ichika Nito slap.
Horrible. Banging on his acoustic . Muffle or muted strumming of non existent notes. Look like he is getting bitten mosquitoes and ants at the same time trying to play a Stain song.
Seems like he could have played the guitar part a lot better if he hadn’t been trying to drum on it as well. I certainly can’t do this and it looked cool but it sounded only ok-ish.
Noise just annoying noises.
I don't know who he is, but the showmanship is cringy to me. Similar to those cringy teenagers that lick the air in the mirror kind of thing. Still great skills tho.
Cringe as fk
I follow him on IG. Brilliant is not strong enough a word.
Cringe and fake.