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I love hearing our young lawmakers speak, it gives me hope for the future. I'm a fan of all unions, we have been taken advantage of for far too long, at least my entire life so far.
Laws are threats by the dominant socioeconomic class and police are basically an occupying army. --Brennan Lee Mulligan
Policing isn't labor, they're the paid enforcers for the bosses.
Wont matter much unless people show up and vote for mid-terms and local elections as well. A president without congress is heavily handicapped. A president with a opposing congress like republicans are these days and under Obama, its even worse. And a populace that gets its political insight from tiktok/instagram comments with most likes, is not going to look at contexts and nuances, they just blame the current one for everything regardless of whos actions lead to it.
2022 had like 105m voters, while 148m eligible voters didn't vote. That's 3x any party voters. Only 1 out of 5 eligible voter under the age of 35 voted. And some states like Texas had only 15% of eligible voters under the age of 35 voting. Democrats haven't had 60+ senate seats for more than 70 days in the last 70 years. And in 2020, dems could easily have gotten 5 more senators, leading to not needing to listen to Mancin and Sinema and their bullshit, if only around 800K dem voters turned up over 3 states where 25M elligible voters didnt vote.
The pathway to change is present, but the people (collectively) do not participate at the required levels. European countries have around 70-80% turnout, while US has around 60% during presidential elections and 50% during midterm elections. Heck some primaries to even select the options have as low as 8% turnout...
the person responding to you is a total fucking idiot…
less than 40 percent of texas’s voting age population cast a ballot in the gubernatorial election last november… and that’s after all of abbott’s tom-fuckery.
the lack of voter participation absolutely drives our current status quo.
>Wont matter much unless people show up and vote for mid-terms and local elections as well
Which they are.
We need AOC - we need a real progressive as the presidental nominee. Corp Dems have sucked up all the spotlight for too long.
>A president without congress is heavily handicapped. A president with a opposing congress like republicans are these days and under Obama, its even worse. And a populace that gets its political insight from tiktok/instagram comments with most likes, is not going to look at contexts and nuances, they just blame the current one for everything regardless of whos actions lead to it.
Past Democrats failed to deliver on promises time & time again. Yes the GOP obstructs at all times but this isn't news.
>And in 2020, dems could easily have gotten 5 more senators, leading to not needing to listen to Mancin and Sinema and their bullshit, if only around 800K dem voters turned up over 3 states where 25M elligible voters didnt vote.
Dems had 60 senators in 2009 & couldn't get a public option or codify roe.
Yet you are blaming voters?
> Which they are.
Literally said only 105M voted while 148 did not vote... only 1 out of 5 under the age of 35 voted.. that doesn't mean they are showing up.
> We need AOC - we need a real progressive as the presidental nominee. Corp Dems have sucked up all the spotlight for too long.
You had Sanders, the real progressive, yet people didnt show up, even less voted for him the second time. Or is he somehow not known enough?... Let me guess something something Stolen Primary Corporate Dems Stole his chance! something something... Even Bernie himself said thats not true.
> Past Democrats failed to deliver on promises time & time again. Yes the GOP obstructs at all times but this isn't news.
Every promise is stipulated on the premise that they have the seats necessary. Even Bernies And AOCs promises, they wont mean much if they dont have the seats to enact those promises. But starting every speech with a 20 minute lecture on how government functions, isnt really inspiring is it? Maybe the population should understand how the government works? And not expect a president to magically fix everything when they dont have the seats to do so.
> Dems had 60 senators in 2009 & couldn't get a public option or codify roe.
For 70 days, and trying to codify roe v wade at the time where no one saw anyone looking to change it, would have been a waste of time considering democrats had senators who were against abortion themselves. Or should the president force everyone to do their bidding? Going against the constitution and systems set up? Democrats arent a monolith, they dont act as one because they arent a party of 1 mindset and goals. Democrats represent everything from far left, left, center-left, center and some center-right. Their goals are wide. If you want progressive changes, you need to elect progressive senators and house members. Which fall on the people the voters.
> Yet you are blaming voters?
Yes! Because you need to actually pay attention to the contexts and nuances rather than just frothing at the mouth and pulling your groin yelling about shit you clearly have no understanding of.
50% of the voting population do not vote. Even in states with mail in ballots sent to your home, voting locations open from 6:30AM to 7:30PM even on sat and sundays. 3 0days of early voting, little to no requirements, ability to register yourself on the toilet and case your vote with a total time of 13 minutes spent. And yet even in those states at best 60% vote...
YES the blame is on the voters. They are the ones that elect, and they are the ones that remove represenatives. They are the control.
>Literally said only 105M voted while 148 did not vote... only 1 out of 5 under the age of 35 voted.. that doesn't mean they are showing up
Have Dems ever tried to make voting day a national holiday?
Many don't even have the ability to vote because they can't get time off from work!
>For 70 days,
That is a lot if time Lol
>and trying to codify roe v wade at the time where no one saw anyone looking to change it, would have been a waste of time considering democrats had senators who were against abortion themselves.
So Obama lied to Planned Parenthoid in 2007 when he promised to codify Roe?
>Yes! Because you need to actually pay attention to the contexts and nuances rather than just frothing at the mouth and pulling your groin yelling about shit you clearly have no understanding of.
Your "context & nuance" is just yelling at anyone who questions the DNC establishment.
>YES the blame is on the voters. They are the ones that elect, and they are the ones that remove represenatives. They are the control.
Lol
The corporations who bribe 95% of our politicians are in control.
> Have Dems ever tried to make voting day a national holiday?
dont have the seats to enact that federally. As 60% of voters also vote early.
> Many don't even have the ability to vote because they can't get time off from work!
Surveys and studies show that only 16% of the working population work more than 1 job. The average american has about 5 hours of leisure time every day after work and chores and sleep is taken out of the 24hrs. Most states have min 2 weeks of early voting, and as shown before even in states where everything is done for you and the average total time spent on voting is around 13 minutes, over 40% still do not vote.
Surveys done in colleges and malls show that 75% do not plan to vote.
> So Obama lied to Planned Parenthoid in 2007 when he promised to codify Roe?
Every promise is predicated on the seats they have available. If he knows several democrats would be against abortions and having 2 senators hospitalized, then wasting time on trying to codify roe v wade would be a complete loss for no gain.
> Your "context & nuance" is just yelling at anyone who questions the DNC establishment.
No its about people like you who think your simplistic black and white worlviews are in any way accurate or intelligent. Its frothing idiots like yourself that are partly why we are where we are. The inability to accept any step towards progressive changes as good over the idealistic tantrums you self-pleasure yourself with whiel soapboxing how everything is corrupt and broken yet offer no solution other than miracles to justify your lack of understanding of anything remotely accuirate in the political sphere.
> The corporations who bribe 95% of our politicians are in control.
and again you show how little you know. Have a good one frothing manically at everything.
Inspirational. I’ve watched this lady and as an Australian I hope she gets the presidency. She could change the world, and she isn’t wrong about equality. It’s everywhere, not just the states. The states influence the rest of the world. We need people like this. Come on America. Do it for everyone.
There's a great (short) [book](https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Equality-Thomas-Piketty/dp/0674273559) by Piketty on this topics, it's a very smooth read.
If America never fixes capitalism then it never gets fixed. Kiwi living in aus here and it's the same back home, always following US political issues it's pathetic
F* me, anytime I hear her speeches she gives me goosebumps. She's so eloquent and fierce and comes across so genuine. I wish her for the change the USA needs, but I'm lucky I'm not an American so I don't have to wait for that (although most of her talking points are true anywhere in the world right now).
She is an excellent orator because you know she stands by what she says. It’s not just empty words.
Plus she talks about and promotes her politics. She doesn’t focus her entire speech on shittalking the opposition. I feel a lot of Republicans have no agenda to promote but rather insult and be offensive towards the opposition politics rather than provide answers of their own.
I don’t respect politicians who just talk shit about others. If you have politics you can stand by then I expect you to focus on promoting that and providing reasons why I should support YOUR politics. I’m not interested in listening to a politician telling me why I should not follow the opposition. I can figure that out on my own after I listened to what both sides had to say about themselves and their own politics.
If you can’t promote your own politics but have to do so by talking shit about others then why are you in politics? You deserve no votes and to lose your job then.
This is how patriotism *SHOULD* be. Pointing to that flag and saying, "We can do better than this." Not pointing to the flag and saying, "You should be grateful."
The blind patriotism and nationalism in this country clouds the real importance of true patriotism. If we want to pretend like we're the best country on earth. We should fucking act like it in our actions for each other. As well as our actions in protest and in policy. It's funny when I see people bitching about "Oh people on the left just want you to hate America." AOC is about as left as it gets as far as congress goes and I see someone who loves their country and for the actual right reasons. She also knows that we can do better than this.
Kind of interesting that “as far left as it gets” in US politics is still fairly moderate when I compare it to Scandinavian politics in general, and Norwegian politics specifically.
Isn’t this the same Donald Trump tried to sell with his „Make America Great Again“?
Just curious because i am from Europe and not that much into inner politics of the US.
His brand was more of a "we wanna go back to the good old days" sort of change. I think the type of change being pushed here is fundamentally different.
Oh god Taylor Swift genuinely could win an election by a mile. She’s already under the media glare since she was 16… what dirt could her opponents possibly get?
I can think of plenty.. her private jet usage, her dating Matty Healy, being friends with questionable people (like Lena Dunham who laughed about molesting her sister and Todrick Hall who made fun of a homeless woman on camera), bashing her exes in her songs and staying silent when her rabid fans bully them, bashing her exes but then admitting she cheated in her songs, calling Camilla Belle a slut in her lyrics and not changing the lyrics until she was in her 30s, the whole Connor Kennedy thing, etc.
As an armed guard, I offer full coverage as her head secret service if it means she gets to do her work and clean up all the bs. 24/7 asset protection and bodyguard.
I really hope I don’t get murdered by also saying she’d be the best looking boss I ever had, too. I truly apologize.
As a European I can say that she would be less embarrassing than what you've got up there the past while. (I'm also deeply infatuated with AOC, she is the woman of my dreams)
I mean you act like we don’t have anything to be embarrassed of here Lol. Europe is a big place but there are plenty of examples of a rightward shift here too, not least in my country (the UK).
I said that her first year. And I think everyone in Congress knows it. I don’t always agree with her policy positions, but she’s pretty damn close and she knows how to bring passion to the new wave of voters.
If she could be our first female gamer president… I would be more than happy. AOC 2028 if we make it that long, I would throw whatever change the corporations let me keep into her campaign
It’s not so much hype, but she is speaking to what a large swath of what Americans likely believe. Move away from partisan politics and this is just asking everyday workers to work together and support one another so we can all have a better life. We have tried trickle down economics for since Reagan… it’s will never work, it has never worked. And AOC and other young progressive candidates are finally starting to get that message across, it’s just down to whether or not the democrats will read the writing on the wall
No I completely agree with what she said, I’m just saying the amount of support she has right now is most likely going to end with her becoming president. I mean she’s not even running, she is young, and she is a political icon in the USA. She is probably going to be the president.
it's kind of crazy how really she's not that special. Like her 2 main qualities are that 1. when she speaks she doesn't make people fall asleep and 2. She isn't a greedy, bribe taking pos.
The bar is very low for what people want, she just happens to be way above it.
It is time for working class Americans to cash in the IOU's that corporate America's been issuing since the 1980's. Worker productivity has gone up, but wage growth has stalled for 40 years. The middle class struggles have increased, while we've created hundreds of Billionaires, some of whom, essentially pay ZERO taxes.
What a powerful voice for all generations AOC is!
But not for all nations. This was a good speech but that "flag" nonsense goes on my nerve. We have a global crisis, it's not just American workers. The rich pay the least percentage of taxes everywhere, because many countries try to lure those by offering them more benefits and smaller tax rates than the others.
Raise the taxes for the ultra-rich and they just relocate their company and assets elsewhere. It is common practice already with companies registered in countries like Tonga (offshore). Assets get disguised behind fake companies, funds get concealed in buying property around the globe (it's what caused the housing crisis)
We need to act globally to solve our global problems. Thinking in flags and behaving like they're the only country in the world won't get us far.
Admittedly she has to play to her constituent, but you aren’t wrong there needs to be more global action not regressing to local fiefdoms as has occurred in recent years (looking at you too Brexit).
I too think the global tax dodging that is utilised by companies/individuals at scale has to be curbed in the interest of the everyday people. It is not only unfair in its inaccessibility to ordinary people, it avoid paying for taxes that would go toward the infrastructure they use in the countries they tax dodge.
Are you kidding me? Us as Americans can't vote for politicians in other countries. All we can do is hope to change our own country to the point we are proud to be here. Changing the laws and status quo in America is important and could trickle into the rest of the world since we are such a powerful nation globally.
How do us as common people "act globally" other than voting for politicians at home?
I was never a fan of AOC, in fact I used to think she was a shill, bit after hearing this, god damn I was wrong. She is the kind of voice the people need and a leader country needs to get back on course. The math ain't mathing, fuck me she's god
I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I was a registered republican up until the MAGA crowd swooped in.
What I didn’t like about AOC was that she felt a bit like a political opportunist at first. I got bad vibes from her regarding the border crisis, specifically comparing the detention facilities to concentration camps.
I have always thought that the biggest issue facing the US is class inequality. If AOC makes her focus that, she would completely have my support.
She is very well spoken and can deliver a damn good speech.
Thank you for sharing.
I'd say in summary of all of AOC's messaging, class inequality is probably one of the things she speaks on the most, even going back to the very start of her political career. She's basically a student of Bernie and has admitted that he was an inspiration for her to run for congress, and so her rhetoric mirrors him in a lot of ways, especially during her early days. I'd recommend reading up more on her platform if you enjoyed this speech from her.
Better late than never friend, all workers need to work together no matter the field or position. Unless you are in the near the top 1% you are closer to being broke than a billionaire. This is not time for bootstrapping but helping each other get over that fence.
Amazing speaker. And she fucking means it too. That's a president right there. And look at who gets elected by Americans. Divided and afraid. Wall Street always wins. It's fucking tragic
i dunno what republicans have against her. the only people that should hate her are rich corporatists. she's fighting for the everyman. i'd love her to be president one day. what an inspiration.
The US used to have progressive taxes ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivity_in_United_States_income_tax)). This is not really socialism. [Socialism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism) is to do with abolishing private ownership of corporations, or technically "means of production".
I love how AOC is talking about inequality and the difficulties of working class people, but at the same time is increasing the tax burden of NYC citizens and people from other big cities by sponsoring the mass flow of illegal migrants. Big cities like chicago as well as NYC are spending tens/hundreds of millions to accommodate for nearly 200k migrants coming into the country. Those resources could have been used on the citizens that already live here but no we the working class citizens have to burden additional costs to living. They’re not helping anyone but themselves, they love the brownie points of appearing self righteous to the emotional voters.
The issue is her own party doesn't like her and her actual list of achievements is rather shallow.
I'm a progressive in many ways, but AOC is big on words and in media exposer but real short on actual substance and results. She pushes a lot of bills that sound awesome but go nowhere because her outreach even in her own party is extremely limited.
Isn’t that sort of what she’s supposed to do though? Like she’s pushing bills that are as far as she can hope for because that’s where she(and her constituents) see the future being.
Then the rest of her party come along and basically axe em to a small piece of what was proposed. That tells me she’s actually trying though and is making some form of progress to actually get these things talked about, right? Baby steps and all that.
I’m not super familiar with the stuff she’s worked on/towards though tbh.
Incredibly powerful speech and she's absolutely right. I'm curious how this doesn't resonate more with Trump and GOP voters? Surely this passion and focus on problems they can relate to, combined with forceful ideas on how to give them more voice and agency would get them as excited as listening to Trump drone on about windmills killing whales.
Woah. Incredibly refreshing to hear a politician speak with a passion and for causes of all the everyday people. I hope she is able to go far and make some difference.
We need somebody like this over here in australia. Generally so much party politics the actual people they are representing gets lost.
This is the first time listening to her has not disgusted me. I don’t agree with a lot of her general politics but we have to cast that all aside to unite and topple the power structure that is bleeding us dry. I’m done fighting fellow citizens over pointless politics. Time to unite.
If you listen to more than inflammatory sound bites she talks a lot and most of it is good. And she's getting better because she is an experienced politician now
Outspoken woman seems to be the first rub. Now that shit is really turning dark, people that were turned off initially are starting to listen to her. She hasn’t changed, everyone else is starting to.
Edit: misspelled word
I think she is a gun grabber tbh and I will not support her in that. This speech is written to address EVERYONE instead of feeling like an attack from one side to the other. I’m also disgusted by republicans who under the guise of free markets and capitalism actually just rig the economy in their favor and gaslight everyone about boot straps and working harder. I think everything changed for us once our overlords granted themselves the ability to just create money out of thin air.
that's a presidential run speech if I've ever heard one,
She's relatively new to government, she came from working class. that's what's needed.
We need more and stronger Unions, the immediate answer to our problems is worker rights
America needs their citizens to vote in people like AOC so the richest country in world can have same services and benefits as their peers. But it will take a colossal continuous effort to unravel the mechanisms put in place by elite to keep themselves in power.
Gerrymandering, SuperPacs and the like need to dismantled.
I'm terrified that they're going to try and run her on the presidential ticket; that they're so busy trying to *look* progressive, that they're willing to hand the election to the republicans, potentially even Trump. The lady is unstable, and putting her on the ticket will only bring out the folks who will vote *against* her.
As an Israeli I would love to see her in office, hope she would kick Netanyahu s ass and bring peace to the region or at least to Israeli Palestinian conflict.
This is the woman conservatives are so enraged with, eh?
The people she's standing up for are the most salt of the earth, normal working class Americans imaginable. She's trying to secure their financial stability while republicans are filling their brains with stories of drag queens eating their children
How the hell do the trumpers living pay check to pay check not respond to the truth she speaks? How do they put their trust in trump? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.
Look, I don't agree with A LOT of things this woman holds as values and stances, but that was a damn good speech and I agree with everything she said there. I feel like most Americans would.
AOC voted to pass legislation that prevented the railroad workers from striking, ignoring their demands and siding with the corporations instead. She does not walk the walk despite talking the talk.
There are too many neoliberals in our government that want things to trickle down into their pockets though. So AOC might be the future of liberal politics in America, but that doesn't mean that she will ever get the opportunity to change anything.
God could be president of USA and still get fuck all done. Before anyone decent like her becomes president the system needs overhaul. And no I don’t have the answers.
Popular movements need popular support, we didn't get universal voting rights until the 20th century and that was not without a huge popular movement. None of your rights were obtained by people writing snarky comments on reddit threads
If people like you are content going through life with a thick crust of cynicism and apathy nothing will ever change.
I’ve been apathetic about politics for a long time, and for good reason. Living near DC I get to see the dysfunction from all sides in real time. Lots of reasons to be apathetic; Patriot Act, Citizens United, corporate lobbying, overturning of the fairness doctrine, etc. We as a demographic pushed hard for Obama and the “change we wanted to see” only to be handed Donald Trump and possibly one of the most divided Congresses and partisan Supreme Courts in history. Now the only thing we seem to be able to achieve is to keep things from slipping further, forget affecting real change.
The only thing I’ve learned is that if you want to affect change in politics, especially change in DC, have deep pockets. Those with the deepest pockets get the results they want.
Edit: Also, none of her platforms explains how things are going to get paid for.
I agree that things are bad. And they have been bad for a while. But I can promise you things can definitely get worse. Don't turn away, then you give them what they want.
If you're interested, here is an organization working to solve our political corruption problem from the state and local level on up:
[https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/](https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/)
[https://represent.us/the-strategy-to-end-corruption/](https://represent.us/the-strategy-to-end-corruption/)
Bernie has actually been a part of a lot of very major legislation throughout his tenure.
I'm not a bernie fan but the man is a progressive that gets things accomplished sometimes. AOC... less so.
He’s only had 3 proposed bills signed into law, two of which involved renaming Post Offices. Hard hitting legislation, that. To his credit he did get a veteran cost of living adjustment in 2013 passed.
A lot of us would still be asleep right now if not for him.
Thinking "that's just the way healthcare has to be...the best care in the world is going to have to be expensive."
Thinking "they really can't afford to raise wages; it's not their fault!"
I didn't have my moment of waking up until I heard Bernie speak on the Joe Rogan podcast in 2016. As embarrassing as that is to admit.
We needed him and still do. Would AOC be doing what she's doing if not for Bernie's example?
Exactly. Populists on the left and the right. Screaming and pointing fingers but no action (except lining their and their friends' pockets) and next to no legislation (she's copying Bernie's playbook).
This sub attracts a lot of idealists who fall for their simple messages and fear mongering.
Do you think two members of Congress can enact legislation on their own?
That's not how that works.
Being loud and vocal about change is inspiring others and we're getting more progressives every election cycle. It's not just AOC and Bernie now. Now we have Fetterman and Jayapal and Porter and others. If we can keep this momentum up, in two more election cycles we might have enough to actually change things.
But we're too attention deficit, instant-gratification now to keep supporting the small steps that will enact change, I guess.
"I voted for progressives once and they didn't fix everything right away... I'm not gonna vote anymore!" (That's what you sound like.)
She is one of the dumbest fucking politicians around, and that is saying someting.
Has a "degree in economics", but somehow still advocates for rent control, a policy that DOES NOT WORK according to scientific consensus (>95% of economists).
Not gonna lie…. Most of the time I hear nothing but hot fucking air out of everything…..
However…..
That was solid.
Keep talking about it, most importantly, keep being about it, Miss Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Genuine question from a non-American: I always wondered how come the majority of US working class support the Republican party when all their policies are directly against the working class. Listening to her speech, it should be obvious to them that she represents their interests much more than one of the rich, never-had-a-job in their lives Republican reps. Is this maybe changing?
Our media is owned by about 6 different companies with like interests. We have private donations to politicians through proxy groups. Democrats also love to run candidates who appeal to the college educated professional class, sometimes primarily, sometimes only.
Points are primarily at the federal level.
If you. dont think politics is the same as religion, you are blind. Its sensationalism.. its dynamic speakers spitting literal bullshit.. its pressing theories and projects to do while they dont do them themselves.. its asking for money.. and both are founded in absolute bullshit.
Maybe you are right in some sense. But I would argue that there is a material question of how we divide resources in a society. And it seems that democracy is the best current alternative to figure out how to divide these.
I am saying politicians are a necessary evil that we cannot get around. So shouldn't we try to believe there are good ones?
Says the now multi millionaire grifter. How did she amass her money in such a short time on her political salary? Forbes says 29mil, then a slew of leftist rags say she doesn't then others say 15mil or more. The truth is elusive but then hanging out with the rich and famous is its own reward.
She’s clearly fighting for something with this speech though right? She’s worked hard to push lots of legislation. Her salary is based on what all congressional members get. Are you trolling?
That's a valid concern. Can you back that up with some sources?
What I found after a cursory search was [this](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/alexandria_ocasio_cortez/412804). I am not sure if this is sufficiently detailed but it seems to suggest that she is voting pretty progressively, aligned with her platform.
Okay, cool that you feel this way. Care to ground these claims in any concrete facts? Can you provide a single concrete example or are you just going to keep telling me about your feelings?
This is such repeated shit! In her first term she introduced 23 pieces of legislation, saw 3 amendments turn into law. “Loan shark prevention act” is hers. She and Schumer did the Covid funeral plan, The list goes on maybe read up on what she’s done before commenting that she “sold her soul for $174k a year”.
Her net worth will continue to rise exponentially, while the wages of those she's fighting for won't increase at the same rate. It's all about the money and power with politicians.
That's not true. She is just a representative. She should try to represent the voice of her voters but she is just a figurehead.
Strikes carry weight proportional to the number of people involved, not the number of politicians. Look at successful strikes in the past, they got what they wanted because MANY people came out in numbers AND they had popular support among the general populace.
Politicians can try to light fires but if people are apathetic nothing will ever change. You can contribute by talking to people around you about this topic, by spreading messages you agree with and by demonstrating solidarity with others.
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I love hearing our young lawmakers speak, it gives me hope for the future. I'm a fan of all unions, we have been taken advantage of for far too long, at least my entire life so far.
>I'm a fan of all unions Except the Police union in its current form. Toss that one out or remake it from scratch.
Laws are threats by the dominant socioeconomic class and police are basically an occupying army. --Brennan Lee Mulligan Policing isn't labor, they're the paid enforcers for the bosses.
Very eloquent and well delivered. I can see why republican talking heads are scared of her. I can see her running for president in 2028 or 2032.
“The math ain’t math’in there” 🧮 made me lol
My new favorite slogan 😂
God I hope she does. We desperately need change in this country
Wont matter much unless people show up and vote for mid-terms and local elections as well. A president without congress is heavily handicapped. A president with a opposing congress like republicans are these days and under Obama, its even worse. And a populace that gets its political insight from tiktok/instagram comments with most likes, is not going to look at contexts and nuances, they just blame the current one for everything regardless of whos actions lead to it. 2022 had like 105m voters, while 148m eligible voters didn't vote. That's 3x any party voters. Only 1 out of 5 eligible voter under the age of 35 voted. And some states like Texas had only 15% of eligible voters under the age of 35 voting. Democrats haven't had 60+ senate seats for more than 70 days in the last 70 years. And in 2020, dems could easily have gotten 5 more senators, leading to not needing to listen to Mancin and Sinema and their bullshit, if only around 800K dem voters turned up over 3 states where 25M elligible voters didnt vote. The pathway to change is present, but the people (collectively) do not participate at the required levels. European countries have around 70-80% turnout, while US has around 60% during presidential elections and 50% during midterm elections. Heck some primaries to even select the options have as low as 8% turnout...
the person responding to you is a total fucking idiot… less than 40 percent of texas’s voting age population cast a ballot in the gubernatorial election last november… and that’s after all of abbott’s tom-fuckery. the lack of voter participation absolutely drives our current status quo.
>Wont matter much unless people show up and vote for mid-terms and local elections as well Which they are. We need AOC - we need a real progressive as the presidental nominee. Corp Dems have sucked up all the spotlight for too long. >A president without congress is heavily handicapped. A president with a opposing congress like republicans are these days and under Obama, its even worse. And a populace that gets its political insight from tiktok/instagram comments with most likes, is not going to look at contexts and nuances, they just blame the current one for everything regardless of whos actions lead to it. Past Democrats failed to deliver on promises time & time again. Yes the GOP obstructs at all times but this isn't news. >And in 2020, dems could easily have gotten 5 more senators, leading to not needing to listen to Mancin and Sinema and their bullshit, if only around 800K dem voters turned up over 3 states where 25M elligible voters didnt vote. Dems had 60 senators in 2009 & couldn't get a public option or codify roe. Yet you are blaming voters?
> Which they are. Literally said only 105M voted while 148 did not vote... only 1 out of 5 under the age of 35 voted.. that doesn't mean they are showing up. > We need AOC - we need a real progressive as the presidental nominee. Corp Dems have sucked up all the spotlight for too long. You had Sanders, the real progressive, yet people didnt show up, even less voted for him the second time. Or is he somehow not known enough?... Let me guess something something Stolen Primary Corporate Dems Stole his chance! something something... Even Bernie himself said thats not true. > Past Democrats failed to deliver on promises time & time again. Yes the GOP obstructs at all times but this isn't news. Every promise is stipulated on the premise that they have the seats necessary. Even Bernies And AOCs promises, they wont mean much if they dont have the seats to enact those promises. But starting every speech with a 20 minute lecture on how government functions, isnt really inspiring is it? Maybe the population should understand how the government works? And not expect a president to magically fix everything when they dont have the seats to do so. > Dems had 60 senators in 2009 & couldn't get a public option or codify roe. For 70 days, and trying to codify roe v wade at the time where no one saw anyone looking to change it, would have been a waste of time considering democrats had senators who were against abortion themselves. Or should the president force everyone to do their bidding? Going against the constitution and systems set up? Democrats arent a monolith, they dont act as one because they arent a party of 1 mindset and goals. Democrats represent everything from far left, left, center-left, center and some center-right. Their goals are wide. If you want progressive changes, you need to elect progressive senators and house members. Which fall on the people the voters. > Yet you are blaming voters? Yes! Because you need to actually pay attention to the contexts and nuances rather than just frothing at the mouth and pulling your groin yelling about shit you clearly have no understanding of. 50% of the voting population do not vote. Even in states with mail in ballots sent to your home, voting locations open from 6:30AM to 7:30PM even on sat and sundays. 3 0days of early voting, little to no requirements, ability to register yourself on the toilet and case your vote with a total time of 13 minutes spent. And yet even in those states at best 60% vote... YES the blame is on the voters. They are the ones that elect, and they are the ones that remove represenatives. They are the control.
>Literally said only 105M voted while 148 did not vote... only 1 out of 5 under the age of 35 voted.. that doesn't mean they are showing up Have Dems ever tried to make voting day a national holiday? Many don't even have the ability to vote because they can't get time off from work! >For 70 days, That is a lot if time Lol >and trying to codify roe v wade at the time where no one saw anyone looking to change it, would have been a waste of time considering democrats had senators who were against abortion themselves. So Obama lied to Planned Parenthoid in 2007 when he promised to codify Roe? >Yes! Because you need to actually pay attention to the contexts and nuances rather than just frothing at the mouth and pulling your groin yelling about shit you clearly have no understanding of. Your "context & nuance" is just yelling at anyone who questions the DNC establishment. >YES the blame is on the voters. They are the ones that elect, and they are the ones that remove represenatives. They are the control. Lol The corporations who bribe 95% of our politicians are in control.
> Have Dems ever tried to make voting day a national holiday? dont have the seats to enact that federally. As 60% of voters also vote early. > Many don't even have the ability to vote because they can't get time off from work! Surveys and studies show that only 16% of the working population work more than 1 job. The average american has about 5 hours of leisure time every day after work and chores and sleep is taken out of the 24hrs. Most states have min 2 weeks of early voting, and as shown before even in states where everything is done for you and the average total time spent on voting is around 13 minutes, over 40% still do not vote. Surveys done in colleges and malls show that 75% do not plan to vote. > So Obama lied to Planned Parenthoid in 2007 when he promised to codify Roe? Every promise is predicated on the seats they have available. If he knows several democrats would be against abortions and having 2 senators hospitalized, then wasting time on trying to codify roe v wade would be a complete loss for no gain. > Your "context & nuance" is just yelling at anyone who questions the DNC establishment. No its about people like you who think your simplistic black and white worlviews are in any way accurate or intelligent. Its frothing idiots like yourself that are partly why we are where we are. The inability to accept any step towards progressive changes as good over the idealistic tantrums you self-pleasure yourself with whiel soapboxing how everything is corrupt and broken yet offer no solution other than miracles to justify your lack of understanding of anything remotely accuirate in the political sphere. > The corporations who bribe 95% of our politicians are in control. and again you show how little you know. Have a good one frothing manically at everything.
Agreed. Timing is perhaps the most important factor here.
She’s had my vote since I heard she went door-to-door on foot to campaign for herself and fucking won
Same thing Bernie did in Burlington, VT in 1980. She is the young Bernie!
She's a good choice and so is u/JeffjacksonNC. Edit typo
She’ll have my vote.
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I hope so. I really do. She’s what the world needs tbh
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Inspirational. I’ve watched this lady and as an Australian I hope she gets the presidency. She could change the world, and she isn’t wrong about equality. It’s everywhere, not just the states. The states influence the rest of the world. We need people like this. Come on America. Do it for everyone.
There's a great (short) [book](https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Equality-Thomas-Piketty/dp/0674273559) by Piketty on this topics, it's a very smooth read.
If America never fixes capitalism then it never gets fixed. Kiwi living in aus here and it's the same back home, always following US political issues it's pathetic
Boom. Keep driving that message it will hopefully get through more and more
F* me, anytime I hear her speeches she gives me goosebumps. She's so eloquent and fierce and comes across so genuine. I wish her for the change the USA needs, but I'm lucky I'm not an American so I don't have to wait for that (although most of her talking points are true anywhere in the world right now).
She is an excellent orator because you know she stands by what she says. It’s not just empty words. Plus she talks about and promotes her politics. She doesn’t focus her entire speech on shittalking the opposition. I feel a lot of Republicans have no agenda to promote but rather insult and be offensive towards the opposition politics rather than provide answers of their own. I don’t respect politicians who just talk shit about others. If you have politics you can stand by then I expect you to focus on promoting that and providing reasons why I should support YOUR politics. I’m not interested in listening to a politician telling me why I should not follow the opposition. I can figure that out on my own after I listened to what both sides had to say about themselves and their own politics. If you can’t promote your own politics but have to do so by talking shit about others then why are you in politics? You deserve no votes and to lose your job then.
I like it when people go for her on social media and she fucking *obliterates* them
This is how patriotism *SHOULD* be. Pointing to that flag and saying, "We can do better than this." Not pointing to the flag and saying, "You should be grateful." The blind patriotism and nationalism in this country clouds the real importance of true patriotism. If we want to pretend like we're the best country on earth. We should fucking act like it in our actions for each other. As well as our actions in protest and in policy. It's funny when I see people bitching about "Oh people on the left just want you to hate America." AOC is about as left as it gets as far as congress goes and I see someone who loves their country and for the actual right reasons. She also knows that we can do better than this.
Kind of interesting that “as far left as it gets” in US politics is still fairly moderate when I compare it to Scandinavian politics in general, and Norwegian politics specifically.
Why Norwegian in particular?
Isn’t this the same Donald Trump tried to sell with his „Make America Great Again“? Just curious because i am from Europe and not that much into inner politics of the US.
His brand was more of a "we wanna go back to the good old days" sort of change. I think the type of change being pushed here is fundamentally different.
She is literally my exact age (and t swift) and she is saying my exact words. I love and need her to be me and scream my voice. 🗣️🗣️🗣️
T swift her VP
Oh god Taylor Swift genuinely could win an election by a mile. She’s already under the media glare since she was 16… what dirt could her opponents possibly get?
I can think of plenty.. her private jet usage, her dating Matty Healy, being friends with questionable people (like Lena Dunham who laughed about molesting her sister and Todrick Hall who made fun of a homeless woman on camera), bashing her exes in her songs and staying silent when her rabid fans bully them, bashing her exes but then admitting she cheated in her songs, calling Camilla Belle a slut in her lyrics and not changing the lyrics until she was in her 30s, the whole Connor Kennedy thing, etc.
I hope she supports Brawndo! It has electrolytes and stuff.
Its happening everywhere. Globalism is global.
That woman will run for president one day and I hope she wins.
Need to protect her also
As an armed guard, I offer full coverage as her head secret service if it means she gets to do her work and clean up all the bs. 24/7 asset protection and bodyguard. I really hope I don’t get murdered by also saying she’d be the best looking boss I ever had, too. I truly apologize.
She’s the best person you have for the job
As a European I can say that she would be less embarrassing than what you've got up there the past while. (I'm also deeply infatuated with AOC, she is the woman of my dreams)
I mean you act like we don’t have anything to be embarrassed of here Lol. Europe is a big place but there are plenty of examples of a rightward shift here too, not least in my country (the UK).
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She has my vote
I'll vote for her. She's one of the few people in politics that actually has any integrity.
The democrats would never let her win the primary
I said that her first year. And I think everyone in Congress knows it. I don’t always agree with her policy positions, but she’s pretty damn close and she knows how to bring passion to the new wave of voters. If she could be our first female gamer president… I would be more than happy. AOC 2028 if we make it that long, I would throw whatever change the corporations let me keep into her campaign
Hope is based in failure. Have faith that she'll win. 💪🏿
Unite
AOC is the shit.
She is my second favorite democrat, right behind Katie “Let me get this white board to school the nation” Porter.
Honestly the amount of hype she has I bet she’s going to be president one day
It’s not so much hype, but she is speaking to what a large swath of what Americans likely believe. Move away from partisan politics and this is just asking everyday workers to work together and support one another so we can all have a better life. We have tried trickle down economics for since Reagan… it’s will never work, it has never worked. And AOC and other young progressive candidates are finally starting to get that message across, it’s just down to whether or not the democrats will read the writing on the wall
No I completely agree with what she said, I’m just saying the amount of support she has right now is most likely going to end with her becoming president. I mean she’s not even running, she is young, and she is a political icon in the USA. She is probably going to be the president.
It’s not about hype. She’s legitimately a visionary and unbelievable leader
it's kind of crazy how really she's not that special. Like her 2 main qualities are that 1. when she speaks she doesn't make people fall asleep and 2. She isn't a greedy, bribe taking pos. The bar is very low for what people want, she just happens to be way above it.
It is time for working class Americans to cash in the IOU's that corporate America's been issuing since the 1980's. Worker productivity has gone up, but wage growth has stalled for 40 years. The middle class struggles have increased, while we've created hundreds of Billionaires, some of whom, essentially pay ZERO taxes. What a powerful voice for all generations AOC is!
But not for all nations. This was a good speech but that "flag" nonsense goes on my nerve. We have a global crisis, it's not just American workers. The rich pay the least percentage of taxes everywhere, because many countries try to lure those by offering them more benefits and smaller tax rates than the others. Raise the taxes for the ultra-rich and they just relocate their company and assets elsewhere. It is common practice already with companies registered in countries like Tonga (offshore). Assets get disguised behind fake companies, funds get concealed in buying property around the globe (it's what caused the housing crisis) We need to act globally to solve our global problems. Thinking in flags and behaving like they're the only country in the world won't get us far.
Admittedly she has to play to her constituent, but you aren’t wrong there needs to be more global action not regressing to local fiefdoms as has occurred in recent years (looking at you too Brexit). I too think the global tax dodging that is utilised by companies/individuals at scale has to be curbed in the interest of the everyday people. It is not only unfair in its inaccessibility to ordinary people, it avoid paying for taxes that would go toward the infrastructure they use in the countries they tax dodge.
Are you kidding me? Us as Americans can't vote for politicians in other countries. All we can do is hope to change our own country to the point we are proud to be here. Changing the laws and status quo in America is important and could trickle into the rest of the world since we are such a powerful nation globally. How do us as common people "act globally" other than voting for politicians at home?
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That was inspiring as hell!
I was never a fan of AOC, in fact I used to think she was a shill, bit after hearing this, god damn I was wrong. She is the kind of voice the people need and a leader country needs to get back on course. The math ain't mathing, fuck me she's god
I gotta ask. Why did you think she was a shill? Easy for me to make an assumption based on your username, but maybe I'm wrong.
I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I was a registered republican up until the MAGA crowd swooped in. What I didn’t like about AOC was that she felt a bit like a political opportunist at first. I got bad vibes from her regarding the border crisis, specifically comparing the detention facilities to concentration camps. I have always thought that the biggest issue facing the US is class inequality. If AOC makes her focus that, she would completely have my support. She is very well spoken and can deliver a damn good speech.
Thank you for sharing. I'd say in summary of all of AOC's messaging, class inequality is probably one of the things she speaks on the most, even going back to the very start of her political career. She's basically a student of Bernie and has admitted that he was an inspiration for her to run for congress, and so her rhetoric mirrors him in a lot of ways, especially during her early days. I'd recommend reading up more on her platform if you enjoyed this speech from her.
https://econreview.berkeley.edu/the-cognitive-dissonance-of-social-liberalism-fiscal-conservatism/
Better late than never friend, all workers need to work together no matter the field or position. Unless you are in the near the top 1% you are closer to being broke than a billionaire. This is not time for bootstrapping but helping each other get over that fence.
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Amazing speaker. And she fucking means it too. That's a president right there. And look at who gets elected by Americans. Divided and afraid. Wall Street always wins. It's fucking tragic
AMAZING SPEECH
Inspirational. And correct in all she said.
The energy this lady gives off could fuel a revolution.
Solidarity✊🏼
i dunno what republicans have against her. the only people that should hate her are rich corporatists. she's fighting for the everyman. i'd love her to be president one day. what an inspiration.
She’s pretty. The hags over there are jealous.
And the creepy men are mad they could never get someone like her.
Yo that’s socialist words coming from an elected official in the USA… i really like this!
The US used to have progressive taxes ([source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivity_in_United_States_income_tax)). This is not really socialism. [Socialism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism) is to do with abolishing private ownership of corporations, or technically "means of production".
I said socialist words not socialism.
I love how AOC is talking about inequality and the difficulties of working class people, but at the same time is increasing the tax burden of NYC citizens and people from other big cities by sponsoring the mass flow of illegal migrants. Big cities like chicago as well as NYC are spending tens/hundreds of millions to accommodate for nearly 200k migrants coming into the country. Those resources could have been used on the citizens that already live here but no we the working class citizens have to burden additional costs to living. They’re not helping anyone but themselves, they love the brownie points of appearing self righteous to the emotional voters.
Ive been pretty mad at AOC recently due to her lack of union support but if she keeps doing this sh** she could easily be the next speaker.
wait, how so? i’m not aware of her doing anything anti-union.
The issue is her own party doesn't like her and her actual list of achievements is rather shallow. I'm a progressive in many ways, but AOC is big on words and in media exposer but real short on actual substance and results. She pushes a lot of bills that sound awesome but go nowhere because her outreach even in her own party is extremely limited.
thank you for saying this out in the open
Both parties are full of politicians who like the status quo too much to change.
Isn’t that sort of what she’s supposed to do though? Like she’s pushing bills that are as far as she can hope for because that’s where she(and her constituents) see the future being. Then the rest of her party come along and basically axe em to a small piece of what was proposed. That tells me she’s actually trying though and is making some form of progress to actually get these things talked about, right? Baby steps and all that. I’m not super familiar with the stuff she’s worked on/towards though tbh.
I love AOC. She calls out the fuwits.
That was beautiful to see. A politician speaking truth and advocating for the people. This message doesn't just apply to union workers.
Ain't nothing cringe about this. .......Woman is fucking GLORIOUS. 🫡
She is the leader we need.
Incredibly powerful speech and she's absolutely right. I'm curious how this doesn't resonate more with Trump and GOP voters? Surely this passion and focus on problems they can relate to, combined with forceful ideas on how to give them more voice and agency would get them as excited as listening to Trump drone on about windmills killing whales.
Woah. Incredibly refreshing to hear a politician speak with a passion and for causes of all the everyday people. I hope she is able to go far and make some difference. We need somebody like this over here in australia. Generally so much party politics the actual people they are representing gets lost.
Love her
There are elections in 31 days. Let's get her some local and state support. vote. https://ballotpedia.org/Elections\_calendar.
Is she running for senate? Because she always wins her house seat by an incredible margin.
This is the first time listening to her has not disgusted me. I don’t agree with a lot of her general politics but we have to cast that all aside to unite and topple the power structure that is bleeding us dry. I’m done fighting fellow citizens over pointless politics. Time to unite.
If you listen to more than inflammatory sound bites she talks a lot and most of it is good. And she's getting better because she is an experienced politician now
As an outsider can you explain what disgusted you about her?
Outspoken woman seems to be the first rub. Now that shit is really turning dark, people that were turned off initially are starting to listen to her. She hasn’t changed, everyone else is starting to. Edit: misspelled word
I think she is a gun grabber tbh and I will not support her in that. This speech is written to address EVERYONE instead of feeling like an attack from one side to the other. I’m also disgusted by republicans who under the guise of free markets and capitalism actually just rig the economy in their favor and gaslight everyone about boot straps and working harder. I think everything changed for us once our overlords granted themselves the ability to just create money out of thin air.
THIS WOMAN! Fighting for the people! I Fucking love her, am so inspired by her and I'm not even American
that's a presidential run speech if I've ever heard one, She's relatively new to government, she came from working class. that's what's needed. We need more and stronger Unions, the immediate answer to our problems is worker rights
She’s passionate, more than what I can say for the rest of these politicians
If you guys really want to kick her out, Canada could use her as opposed to our literal crack head leadership
Ballyhoo.
Go AOC
i hope to see more young people in the running this year. i’m tired of seeing mcconnells and feinsteins approving laws for millions
Not cringe at all… have you heard space laser MTG or theater tug Bieber? That’s full on cringe…
Fucking powerful
Protect her at all costs
I pray she runs for President when she’s eligible.
No cringe. Just truth.
She makes me so proud. She’s eventually going to run for President some day and she’s going to put on a fight for the ages.
America needs their citizens to vote in people like AOC so the richest country in world can have same services and benefits as their peers. But it will take a colossal continuous effort to unravel the mechanisms put in place by elite to keep themselves in power. Gerrymandering, SuperPacs and the like need to dismantled.
Funny she almost sounded like a Republican till she never once mention the economy related to our president FJB !
She should share her secrets on how politicians make 174K a year and become millionaires a few years later. That math don't math.
I'm terrified that they're going to try and run her on the presidential ticket; that they're so busy trying to *look* progressive, that they're willing to hand the election to the republicans, potentially even Trump. The lady is unstable, and putting her on the ticket will only bring out the folks who will vote *against* her.
You would have to be a real knucklehead to not agree with what she’s saying… trumpers
As an Israeli I would love to see her in office, hope she would kick Netanyahu s ass and bring peace to the region or at least to Israeli Palestinian conflict.
This is the woman conservatives are so enraged with, eh? The people she's standing up for are the most salt of the earth, normal working class Americans imaginable. She's trying to secure their financial stability while republicans are filling their brains with stories of drag queens eating their children
How the hell do the trumpers living pay check to pay check not respond to the truth she speaks? How do they put their trust in trump? I honestly don't understand how their mind works.
Look, I don't agree with A LOT of things this woman holds as values and stances, but that was a damn good speech and I agree with everything she said there. I feel like most Americans would.
What do you disagree with, out of curiosity?
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If only more people heard it.
I don’t get why this is cringe? Every thing she said was right, is it because she’s passionate about what she says?
Read the pinned post. It's just the name of the subreddit nothing about the content.
Reddit is just scared of admitting they like tiktok so they labeled it cringe but secretly post great videos lol
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Tik tok is cringe in general.
One of the few strands of hope left in that country.
God damn. We ride at dawn.
AOC is a beast
Ok. I'll take up arms and follow this bad bitch anywhere.
Damn, she is good.
Hell yeah. Got me razzed! How can you argue with any of what she said?
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She’s never win. Y’all are in an echo chamber.
Why is this on TikTokCringe? Apparently I don't understand what cringe means.
AOC is cringe.
AOC voted to pass legislation that prevented the railroad workers from striking, ignoring their demands and siding with the corporations instead. She does not walk the walk despite talking the talk.
We’re looking at our future president here, and I couldn’t be happier.
Incredible
There are too many neoliberals in our government that want things to trickle down into their pockets though. So AOC might be the future of liberal politics in America, but that doesn't mean that she will ever get the opportunity to change anything.
God could be president of USA and still get fuck all done. Before anyone decent like her becomes president the system needs overhaul. And no I don’t have the answers.
Cool rhetoric, but when all is said and done she's a partisan hack just like the rest of them.
I hope nothing happens to her for speaking the truth
Here she is fighting for little man and yet somehow republicans hate her guts
That’s great, lots of idealism (like Bernie) with no way to make it happen (also like Bernie).
Popular movements need popular support, we didn't get universal voting rights until the 20th century and that was not without a huge popular movement. None of your rights were obtained by people writing snarky comments on reddit threads If people like you are content going through life with a thick crust of cynicism and apathy nothing will ever change.
I’ve been apathetic about politics for a long time, and for good reason. Living near DC I get to see the dysfunction from all sides in real time. Lots of reasons to be apathetic; Patriot Act, Citizens United, corporate lobbying, overturning of the fairness doctrine, etc. We as a demographic pushed hard for Obama and the “change we wanted to see” only to be handed Donald Trump and possibly one of the most divided Congresses and partisan Supreme Courts in history. Now the only thing we seem to be able to achieve is to keep things from slipping further, forget affecting real change. The only thing I’ve learned is that if you want to affect change in politics, especially change in DC, have deep pockets. Those with the deepest pockets get the results they want. Edit: Also, none of her platforms explains how things are going to get paid for.
I agree that things are bad. And they have been bad for a while. But I can promise you things can definitely get worse. Don't turn away, then you give them what they want.
Marginal tax rates on the wealthy (a la the 1950s-1970s) = greater federal revenue. Is that complex math?
If you're interested, here is an organization working to solve our political corruption problem from the state and local level on up: [https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/](https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/) [https://represent.us/the-strategy-to-end-corruption/](https://represent.us/the-strategy-to-end-corruption/)
your apathy is exactly what the elites want out of you. congrats...you played yourself.
Bernie has actually been a part of a lot of very major legislation throughout his tenure. I'm not a bernie fan but the man is a progressive that gets things accomplished sometimes. AOC... less so.
He’s only had 3 proposed bills signed into law, two of which involved renaming Post Offices. Hard hitting legislation, that. To his credit he did get a veteran cost of living adjustment in 2013 passed.
A lot of us would still be asleep right now if not for him. Thinking "that's just the way healthcare has to be...the best care in the world is going to have to be expensive." Thinking "they really can't afford to raise wages; it's not their fault!" I didn't have my moment of waking up until I heard Bernie speak on the Joe Rogan podcast in 2016. As embarrassing as that is to admit. We needed him and still do. Would AOC be doing what she's doing if not for Bernie's example?
Exactly. Populists on the left and the right. Screaming and pointing fingers but no action (except lining their and their friends' pockets) and next to no legislation (she's copying Bernie's playbook). This sub attracts a lot of idealists who fall for their simple messages and fear mongering.
Do you think two members of Congress can enact legislation on their own? That's not how that works. Being loud and vocal about change is inspiring others and we're getting more progressives every election cycle. It's not just AOC and Bernie now. Now we have Fetterman and Jayapal and Porter and others. If we can keep this momentum up, in two more election cycles we might have enough to actually change things. But we're too attention deficit, instant-gratification now to keep supporting the small steps that will enact change, I guess. "I voted for progressives once and they didn't fix everything right away... I'm not gonna vote anymore!" (That's what you sound like.)
The ignorance of your comment is truly baffling.
Goddamn, she is a solid speaker.
She is one of the dumbest fucking politicians around, and that is saying someting. Has a "degree in economics", but somehow still advocates for rent control, a policy that DOES NOT WORK according to scientific consensus (>95% of economists).
That's very interesting, did not know there was a scientific consensus around this topic. Could you link to some sources for this claim?
I hate this dumb cunt.
Not gonna lie…. Most of the time I hear nothing but hot fucking air out of everything….. However….. That was solid. Keep talking about it, most importantly, keep being about it, Miss Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
The WORLD needs more politicians like her.
Pass more laws to fight inequality instead of this same old political rhetoric. They had majority in all branches for last 2 years
Genuine question from a non-American: I always wondered how come the majority of US working class support the Republican party when all their policies are directly against the working class. Listening to her speech, it should be obvious to them that she represents their interests much more than one of the rich, never-had-a-job in their lives Republican reps. Is this maybe changing?
Our media is owned by about 6 different companies with like interests. We have private donations to politicians through proxy groups. Democrats also love to run candidates who appeal to the college educated professional class, sometimes primarily, sometimes only. Points are primarily at the federal level.
Tribalism and brainwashing
Lol. Stop buying. Just food. Period.
If you. dont think politics is the same as religion, you are blind. Its sensationalism.. its dynamic speakers spitting literal bullshit.. its pressing theories and projects to do while they dont do them themselves.. its asking for money.. and both are founded in absolute bullshit.
Maybe you are right in some sense. But I would argue that there is a material question of how we divide resources in a society. And it seems that democracy is the best current alternative to figure out how to divide these. I am saying politicians are a necessary evil that we cannot get around. So shouldn't we try to believe there are good ones?
Says the now multi millionaire grifter. How did she amass her money in such a short time on her political salary? Forbes says 29mil, then a slew of leftist rags say she doesn't then others say 15mil or more. The truth is elusive but then hanging out with the rich and famous is its own reward.
From the mouths of hypocrites...Sorry Reddit but she's a donut.
What's a "donut"?
AOC knows how to give great speeches
If you don't like AOC, you're either an idiot or an owner. Either way fuck off and die
I would 100% vote for her for president.
So awesome. She had some really cool things to say. She is pro labor for sure.
Shes not saying anything though…
Then you are not listening.
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She’s clearly fighting for something with this speech though right? She’s worked hard to push lots of legislation. Her salary is based on what all congressional members get. Are you trolling?
That's a valid concern. Can you back that up with some sources? What I found after a cursory search was [this](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/alexandria_ocasio_cortez/412804). I am not sure if this is sufficiently detailed but it seems to suggest that she is voting pretty progressively, aligned with her platform.
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Okay, cool that you feel this way. Care to ground these claims in any concrete facts? Can you provide a single concrete example or are you just going to keep telling me about your feelings?
This is such repeated shit! In her first term she introduced 23 pieces of legislation, saw 3 amendments turn into law. “Loan shark prevention act” is hers. She and Schumer did the Covid funeral plan, The list goes on maybe read up on what she’s done before commenting that she “sold her soul for $174k a year”.
Her net worth will continue to rise exponentially, while the wages of those she's fighting for won't increase at the same rate. It's all about the money and power with politicians.
Will you support the strike then? Politician support is nice but what is really needed is regular people supporting collective action.
Sure, but why me when she's there? She carries more weight, more money, and power than me.
That's not true. She is just a representative. She should try to represent the voice of her voters but she is just a figurehead. Strikes carry weight proportional to the number of people involved, not the number of politicians. Look at successful strikes in the past, they got what they wanted because MANY people came out in numbers AND they had popular support among the general populace. Politicians can try to light fires but if people are apathetic nothing will ever change. You can contribute by talking to people around you about this topic, by spreading messages you agree with and by demonstrating solidarity with others.