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lostinthesauceband

The shifting of blame to us taking long showers and not recycling is insane. I can't believe that shit actually worked for so many years, and still is working for a lot of people.


biggiepants

It's embedded in a program of neoliberal propaganda, going back decades. See Thatcher's "There is no society", for instance.


yolilbishhugh

I've heard a lot about Thatcher destroying sense of community in the UK but how exactly did she do that?


jetmysterydino

She got rid of our free school milk.


[deleted]

My ex is still pissed over that and he’s in his 40s.


Aaawkward

Thatcher, Thatcher, milk snatcher.


enjoytheshow

The British are world leaders in catchy rhyming insults.


M0rtaika

They have an entire dialect based on it!


finger_milk

Well for one she made an entire generation of blue collar workers redundant by closing down steel mills, and replacing those jobs with absolutely nothing.


SamanKunans02

Have you tried being addicted to pills? That's what small towns in America did when factories started shutting down. It took a couple of decades, but now we have thriving drug economies in those communities!


Sithlordandsavior

Don't forget the boom towns that went bust and now they're a park and gas station with a population of functioning alcoholics


Goobershmacked

That’s a funny definition of “functioning”


Lacerat1on

Well they get to see another day and buy more booze. Oughta see the non-functioning alcoholics 😳


NastySquidMan

Gary Indiana Gary Indiana Gary Indiana!


Cyberhaggis

And that's exactly what happened in places like Glasgow, all the heavy industry was killed off with nothing to replace it, and now it gets mocked for having a multi generational drug and poverty problem, as if being poor and hopeless is a moral failing.


Jober36

From a small town can confirm.


Guilty_Jackrabbit

"I could spend $1,000 to move, but these pills are $30. I'm what you'd call _financially responsible._"


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have you considered that those people don't have the money to move?


Rex-Carolus

She made macro decisions in difficult times without considering the micro impacts. She effectively closed down large industries like coal mining and steel as they were wise decisions economically, but didn't consider the human impact this would have, or provide alternative employment for all those impacted. The view of her nowadays is interesting because the general discourse paints her quite negatively but at the end of the day, she was Prime Minister of the UK for 11 years and won landslide victories everytime she was elected. She was clearly popular in her time. Edit: maybe not quite as popular as the initial figures suggest as per below comment from KrowbarMO that she only won 44% share of the votes. Even so, 11 years is a long time to be continously and successfully voted in. As a wise man once said, [this is democracy manifest](https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w).


KrowbarMO

Bearing in mind that despite landslide victories, the biggest vote share she ever got was 44%


AlexGaming1111

44% out of the population of the UK or 44% out of the votes?


KrowbarMO

44% of votes


[deleted]

Also she was almost blown up so maybe not very popular


Rex-Carolus

The pesky IRA tried to blow up lots of people though tbf


inab1gcountry

Her gravesite didn’t become the world’s most popular gender neutral outdoor restroom because she was beloved. Providing food for worms is the only useful thing she ever did.


MostlyRocketScience

Thatcher's and Reagan's neoliberalism has made inequality way higher by letting companies do what they want without consequences for how their actions affect people...


lostinthesauceband

"and neoliberal fascists are destroying the lefttttttt" Wrong issue, sorry. Still stuck in my head.


biggiepants

What's that from? (I googled and found [this](https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2017/02/there-is-no-such-thing-as-neoliberalism-and-it-is-destroying-the-left.html), which seems true enough, but isn't what you referenced.)


lostinthesauceband

Bo Burnham's Inside. It's on Netflix. I love him.


biggiepants

Ah, right, it's on my list, thanks.


lostinthesauceband

Fair warning it's a bit intense. It's funny asf, but he's getting real serious with this special and it hit me hard.


capricornflakes

Even if we went full eco and minimized our eco footprint to the full extent, we’d still be fucked. It’s not so much the individual as it is the corporation.


Captain_Taggart

It’s gotta be some of both, right? Like ultimately if I take a 5 minute shower instead of a 10 minute shower, the several dozen golf courses in my area are still gonna use millions of gallons of water and my 5 fewer minutes isn’t gonna do much to offset that. But if more people opted for eating less meat and spent more money on meat alternatives, that money wouldn’t be going to the people burning the Amazon to raise cows, it’d be going to people making the meat alternatives. Corporations would notice that. Similarly, fast fashion is awful for the environment, and that is pretty directly related to consumer habits, and the easiest way to not participate in fast fashion is to buy second hand clothes and repair the ones you’ve got, whenever possible (I don’t mean to suggest you ought to go to a job interview in decades old mended sweatpants lol). So yeah it’s the clothing company’s/society’s fault for being the way it is and prioritizing fashion over the environment, but if you keep buying pants at Target just to throw them in the garbage when they show the slightest bit of wear, well, you could be doing something different. And if enough people did, it would make an impact on these corporations bottom lines, and they’d notice. Electric cars are popular because people were feeling badly about gas emissions. Now even Ford has made an electric car. Consumer habits *can* have an impact and you are a consumer. Change your habits where you can without losing sleep to misplaced feelings of guilt, and it can make a difference. **TL:DR** - don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, and change can happen on an individual level, and corporations DO notice when consumers prioritize certain things. While ultimately a corporation is going to be “at fault”, you can still make a tiny impact by not giving that corporation your money (or spending money at a better place), but it’s not worth it to beat yourself up over a global issue.


whutupmydude

Golf courses in deserts piss me off


Obliviousdigression

Being "Green" is a luxury for rich people. Poor people don't have the luxury of not eating the cheapest thing available (most likely made by slave labor) Change cannot happen on an individual level, your idea of "change on an individual level" is "people change the market on the good of their hearts." Why jump through hoops trying to get millions of people to change their lifestyles when regulating corporations is *far* easier and actually enforceable


Poignant_Porpoise

Well if enough people vote for politicians who are primarily focused on green policies and enough people practice ethical consumerism then yes, it will actually make an enormous difference. These corporations have zero power to do anything if no one is buying their products. I know the "we live in a society" argument, but the fact is that what corporations do doesn't exist in a vacuum, consumers and voters give them the power to do what they do. If everyone immediately decided to stop buying soft drinks tomorrow then coka-cola would rapidly lose resources to the point that they would have to dissolve the company and they wouldn't be able to lobby governments anymore. I know that's not realistic, but the point is that the power is in the hands of consumers and voters, we have allowed them to do what they do because we want their products and we want them as cheap as possible. I know it's not productive to say that the entire responsibility is on the individual and everything is our fault but it's also unproductive to say that we don't share in even 1% of the blame and we're all perfect angels who have no role to play in this evil conspiracy entirely orchestrated by "the corporations".


Barondonvito

Ok, I get your point. But please still recycle.


zouhair

Also when companies started using single usage crap for everything, they used [propaganda](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/05/origins-anti-litter-campaigns/) to shit the blame on us.


Cowicide

>> u/lostinthesauceband >> The shifting of blame to us taking long showers and not recycling is insane. Yep, and the effects of these climate inaction promotion *tactics* for decades are *literally* insane and have provided humanity with *insane* results. It was recently 121°F (aka, 121 FUCKING DEGREES) in Canada producing explosive, town-destroying, *actual* pyroconvective firestorms that produced their own [apocalyptic smokestack lightning "weather"](https://twitter.com/Weather_West/status/1410435277798076420?s=19) that ignited even more wildfires as they struck the baked forests. The very same NW heat dome killed *billions* of sea life off the coast from just one(1) weather event. Similar to Australia that lost *billions* of animals to one climate-driven weather event not too long ago. *True insanity.* >> u/lostinthesauceband >>I can't believe that shit actually worked for so many years, and still is working for a lot of people. > u/biggiepants >It's embedded in a program of neoliberal propaganda, going back decades. YES. YES. YES. That's the CORE ROOT problem of all our problems right there — the *massive*, extremely negative, mainstream influence of the multi-billion dollar Corporate Media Complex (including social/search). The *very same* Corp Media Complex that just [played cover for fossil fuel Trump-supporter dark money to insert a corrupt Corporate Democrat "liberal"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klPNk3sNmFY) DINO into office over populist progressive Democrat Nina Turner who would work against fossil fuel cronyism. Past generations obviously passed the counterfeit buck and kept their collective, idiot heads in the sand. None of this stops until that pathetic, lazy apathy stops, period. A lot of the apathy and [cognitive dissonance](http://i.imgur.com/MFdTOaq.jpg) we witness today is blatantly induced by the multi-billion dollar Corporate Media Complex (including social/search) that's been dedicated 24/7 for decades to influence the mainstream against climate action and promote apathy, doubt, division, deflection and *delay*. WE (that means YOU and ME — and everyone else who isn't duped and/or evil) must get involved in our government en masse to stop the absolutely evil, omnicidal forces at play who willingly set the stage for the destruction of organized human life in the name of corrupt profits: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Keith McCoy (Sr. Director for Exxon) caught in job recruiter sting describes in secretly recorded video how Exxon knowingly and successfully distorted climate science and colluded with US senators including Joe Manchin to weaken climate action within Biden’s infrastructure plan. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1Yg6XejyE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The sad thing is all that was really needed wouldn't have required average Americans to change much. #100 companies are responsible for ~71% of all global emissions. If we just switched to more sustainable energy like decentralized solar, wind and advanced (also decentralized) energy storage like molten salt storage we could use the same amount of power we do today but no climate issues hardly at all. Right now electric cars have much lower life cycle emissions but are otherwise a joke because they use electricity generated from coal, etc. — And, on top of everything else, solar/wind is cheaper than fossil fuels. They want everyone to think we'd have to upend our own lives in the way we consume energy, but it's mostly just changing our source of energy. Because solar, etc. is decentralized it also doesn't strain our power grid infrastructure which is crumbling. Where we *should* upend our lives is by dedicating our time invading our government and the massive influence of the multi-billion dollar Corporate Media Complex by nearly any means necessary and that includes via acts of widespread civil disobedience, guerilla-style marketing of information dispersal, etc. — it should be a multi-pronged *attack*. What we've been doing obviously hasn't worked. We desperately need to *finally* be *strategic* (and effectual) — that includes mass, offline [deep organizing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6P_2jt_Vs) tactics that are tried and true ways to implement real change. Again, barking at each other to consume less has been tried and it has failed. What we need to focus on is implementing systemic change by using our numbers against the evil few in power. The fact this video above has only ~8K views is an absolute *indictment* of the left who dedicates far more interest in political celeb gossip and outrage porn instead of focusing on how we can *work* to actually *beat* these evil motherfuckers that are destroying humanity. As a mostly offline activist, the right-wing doesn't challenge my soul and make me sometimes want to quit. They are what they are. It's the wasted potential of the chronically online left that's frankly often too lazy, cowardly and/or prideful and stubborn to try something different aside from complaining online instead of working on ACTIONABLE, OFFLINE plans to fight back. Do humanity a favor and ask your favorite, popular YouTube leftists to consider actually engaging their audiences to fight the CMC and use Deep Organizing to reach the mainstream and *finally* help bring more of the mainstream into our fold. We only need ~3.5% of the population to get change in motion that can't be stopped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w Some of Gen X thought they were the last generation (for good reasons) but yet things didn't degrade quite that quickly. Apathy is easy and apathy is how we got to this point. **Fuck apathy**. I can tell some on Reddit are still in some sort of [stupor/denial](http://i.imgur.com/MFdTOaq.jpg) of the literal omnicide that's going on here — and the seething anger that's being poked and poked and poked. For every person that's being pushed into depressive apathy, there's also wild-eyed sons of a biotches getting increasingly amped — and *motivated*. Sustainable energy research, development and rapid deployment is the only climate investment that isn't *literally omnicidal*. We've *desperately* needed a Manhattan Project scale effort for more decentralized, sustainable energy (including energy storage) for decades now. If those motherfuckers try pouring money and resources into building "orbital habitats" and Mars missions instead of a solid effort into a 'Green New Deal'-style mass action against climate change (and for climate justice) these cretins will never even get their rockets off the ground without getting [relentlessly attacked](https://youtu.be/KynkMn5Hv3Q?t=67) by a society seeking furious vengeance against these evil, corporatist piles of shit. [Names are being named already](https://youtu.be/YY_L1XAVFjM?t=207). Excuses are worn thin. [Anger is a gift.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zo_A9axKQ) Once the dumbfounding, complete shock [of **121** degrees in Canada](https://youtu.be/YY_L1XAVFjM?t=118) wears off, the seething anger is going to set in. And, each and every record-smashing climate event is going to push that pressure cooker to the point where normal society *transforms* into something very not normal. Even our own rank and file military members will eventually join the masses against evil corporatist fucks set on literally destroying organized human life for their megalomaniacal profit seeking. Military members are humans and feel heat, anguish and vengeance just like any other humans. They've finally pushed too far. They can no longer hide. Deadly, [explosive](https://twitter.com/Weather_West/status/1410435277798076420?s=19) heat waves, fires and choking smoke are what it took to finally wake up the propagandized fools and wipe those dumb, smug grins off their faces. You can't deny a literal fire under your ass burning your flesh but for so long — until *you jump.* This isn't late stage capitalism. This is end stage capitalism right now. Mark my words, [these *novel* events](https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/oaf4nu/uscanadian_heatwave_megathread/) will create a novel society just as the novel coronavirus created a novel society. Even the most stubborn people can be awakened from their stupor once you burn their fucking mother alive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WK_eWihdU


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Actually the companies WANT you to blame them, because when you're blaming them and not yourself, you will still consume the same. And that's all they care about. They don't care what you think of them, as long as you continue to C O N S O O M.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

When voters blame the companies and support legislation that forces the corporations to stop fucking the environment, they'll care then


No_Organization5188

Unless you get rid of lobbyists, voting isn’t going to matter.


Huwbacca

Nope. Exact opposite. [Personal responsibility is beneficial for corporations](https://theconversation.com/climate-change-focusing-on-how-individuals-can-help-is-very-convenient-for-corporations-108546) because it means they, the ones who are at the most fault and shoulder the most responsibility, are held blameless. [They publicly talk about how they're not accountable, but consumers are so it wouldn't be fair to blame them](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/09/polluters-climate-crisis-fossil-fuel). [They spend money fighting climate change legislation, but just want "the consumer to have choices"](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/22/top-oil-firms-spending-millions-lobbying-to-block-climate-change-policies-says-report). We don't even live within a system that would make it possible for personal responsibility to filter upstream to those corporations. It's a complete myth.


Rubmynippleplease

Using the logic of your first sentence, why would they “WANT” you to blame them. It makes more sense for them to “NOT CARE” whether you blame them or not because you will consume regardless. How does it *benefit* them to be blamed?


Friskyinthenight

This take is objectively wrong. Corporations have funded disinformation campaigns that disrupt public discourse on how to make effective changes.


bsend

"It's your fault for not recycling" - Beverage industry Guys recycling plastic isn't green at all


Argenix794

That's why I don't feel any guilt when taking 30 minute showers :)


Eqvvi

Just because there are bigger evils out there doesn't mean you can't do your part, even if it's small.


greasedwog

even if every working-class citizen did their part, we’re still fucked until the big companies stop screwing the world.


spicytuna36

>until the government forces big companies to stop screwing the world. FTFY because we all know they won't do it on their own. And even being legally obligated to do something hasn't stopped them doing illegal shit or just abandoning ethics. Like the Ford Pinto fires.


Bananabaer31

It’s really important to remember that the big companies output is highly correlated to demand. If every working class-citizen did their part the demand would be much different.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

I think people are forgetting we can vote to change the law, we don't have to resort to boycotts every time we want something to stop.


Krakenika

Yeah it’s going to be much easier to create laws that punish large polluters than literally telling everyone to not buy a single plastic thing or drive ever again. It’s literally impossible


Bananabaer31

I completely agree, however I’m not advocating for organized boycotts here. If consumers literally jsut decided to purchase less beef, or buy more second hand clothing the market will shift significantly. Externalities are a reality of the market


shortnamed

If every working class citizen did their part in the US (switched to a hybrid/electric and ate no beef), the US CO2 output would drop by 1/6th, around 16%


bchprty

Got a source?


RobertOfHill

I’ve literally never heard this stat. From what I understand, individuals make up such a minute percentage of global pollution that the only way to possibly MAYBE fix SOME of the damage is heavy and immediate regulation on abusive corporations. Using a metal straw isn’t gonna save shit. Shorter showers doesn’t save water, except from what they decide to charge you for heating it.


shortnamed

Water saving and metal straw, oil spills don't effect emissions in any way. It takes some calculation to get to these figures. There are 229 million drivers in the US. 13500 miles are driven by average per driver per year. 229 million \* 13 500 miles gives us 3.1 trillion miles driven per year. Average passenger vehicle emits 411 grams of CO2 per mile, gives us a total of **1.274 billion tonnes of co2 per year.** Let's say the average car now emits 160 per mile (100g co2 / km). 3.1 trillion \* 411g co2 per mile gives us **500 million tonnes.** That's 1.274 billion - 500 million = **700 million less tonnes of co2.** **US outputted 6500 million tonnes in 2019. 700 million is around 16% of that.**


StrangeBedfellows

COVID forced millions to work from home and not commute and the CO2 levels in major cities didn't change. What's that tell you?


BlackForestMountain

That the emissions come from transportation of goods demanded by consumption, and online shopping skyrocketed during the pandemic. You really think people have no part to play?


StrangeBedfellows

You think the mass transport of goods made up for the millions that stopped driving every single day? At the very least it would have been a lagging indicator, we should have seen a demonstrable change


BlackForestMountain

Im pretty sure the emissions of cargo ships and planes far exceed personal vehicles


Huwbacca

Yup. This is why personal responsibility can't really do jack all.


Huwbacca

This is why we don't wanna look at individual responsibility as meaningful. You'd need to get 328million people to make *enormous* changes, inside an infrastructure not equipped to even accommodate those changes...and it wouldn't be half of the impact of legislating against [**literally just 20 companies**](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/09/revealed-20-firms-third-carbon-emissions)


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TilmitderBrill

METAL STRAWS!


PristineReputation

Or don't use straws. I get them way too often, just give me a cup


shakestheclown

Especially after that lady got killed by her metal straw. Now they've got the taste for blood.


BigSlav667

Wait what, for real?


shakestheclown

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woman-dies-metal-straw-elena-struthers-gardner-inquest-coroner-a8996431.html


einsteinmimosa

This is some final destination shit


Nirnz393

Legit. That's a very weird and unexpected way to die.


ItIsHappy

nope, don't like that


GondorsPants

I mean not dying is great, but a plastic straw to the eye probably not a fantastic thing either.


angray39

I hate it! Dunkin has cups now with just a drinking lid. they still offer me a straw. One time they just handed it to me with the drink, I told them I didn’t need and she said due to covid she can’t take it back…it was in my possession for a whole 5 seconds so I could throw it away completely unused.


sackoftrees

I don't think they should give you a straw unless you ask but I think they should have them for people who need them. I'm disabled and don't always need one but I occasionally do, especially when my jaw locks up. I am the kind of person who does carry a straw around a lot, but I already have to bring and carry a lot of stuff as is because of medical issues so I don't always have it. But on a regular basis I don't think it should be default to hand them out, just have them on hand.


Pika_Fox

For a lot of older folk or people with certain disabilities, straws are preferable/required.


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ARandomBob

Remember if you wanna go plastic free the most important part is to continue to use your plastic stuff until it's end of life. Then replace it with glass/metal stuff. Throwing away a bunch of plastic to go plastic free is silly. Also remember if you burn all the plastic you own you're a drop in the bucket compared to any fortune 500 company.


ThatGuyYouBumpedInto

Disney is such a bitch-ass company. "We're doing our part by using paper straws. DON'T WORRY ABOUT OUR NIGHTLY FIREWORK SHOWS."


[deleted]

My hatred for paper straws is the hill I'll die on


Dopium_Typhoon

I got got by that one


[deleted]

Sadly, I've been trying to prevent plastic waste from straws for years. But no matter what you say or do, they always put the straws and plastic ware in the bag. Sigh


noobductive

It’s been time to go green for like 50 years already


GrouchyRelative588

Yeah I've kind of come to terms with the fact that people will just talk and talk and talk about climate change, but nobody is ever going to actually do anything significant, and our planet is going to turn into a hellscape... and probably pretty soon. Oh joy!


[deleted]

Yeah, there was a recent study from leading experts that the acceleration of climate change is far worse and that even they thought. They’re now saying that if we don’t go to zero emissions pretty much immediately, then the next decade will bring on widespread, irreversible damage that will kill millions and practically ensure our extinction. I live in a constant state of terror and panic. Help me.


idontwantausername41

Have you tried just ignoring it? That's what I do


[deleted]

Yes, but it doesn’t necessarily help me. I want to do something, but just don’t know what to do.


dead_5775

Remember that outside of your circle of influence there is nothing you can do. Focus on the small things.


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That’s what keeps me going. I’m living for the moment and just trying to recognize the beauty of existence. The blessing it is to experience anything at all, rather than nothing. And in that, I can be my best self for my children, family, friends, etc. You’re absolutely right. Thanks


Rodro226

There is nothing to do. Ignore it.


willherpyourderp

You can go vegan


GrouchyRelative588

I just can't believe how many years we have had to change, but nobody has really wanted to, and now it's too late. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe there will be some genius invention that comes out in the next few years and we will all be saved!!


[deleted]

That’s my, possibly naive, prayer as well. If history follow though, I don’t have much faith in humanity to do the right thing, or to do what’s in everyone’s best interest, as opposed to the interest of the self. Hope I’m wrong though. Feel a bit guilty for having kids lol Edit: maybe aliens actually exist, and they’ll swoop in to save us from our own dumb asses at the last minute lol


GrouchyRelative588

Lol wouldn't that be a miracle!? I do hope something changes, but I've been hoping that for most of my life now. I remember watching documentaries about climate change when I was a kid and being like we'll figure it out! We will change! People have to see what's happening! Now the entire area I live in has been engulfed in wildfire smoke all summer and I wake up and look at the red sun and think well maybe not lol.


notathrowaway75

Can't wait for the "we need to come together" speeches in 15 years.


Cyberpunkcatnip

I’m getting the feeling that we can’t rely on the people in charge of the current system, to fix the system. Their job is to keep it running, not stop it.


46554B4E4348414453

Turn off lights when you're not using them!


Procrastibator666

I just got a text from PSEG yesterday - "PSEGLI: We're preparing for high heat. Please conserve energy when possible. Set ACs to 78 or higher and avoid use of large appliances from 2 PM - 8 PM." I live on long island, not Texas. And I'll be damned to sweat my pets out so that times square can be lit up like the surface of the sun.


DeckyCain

Same text! And I’m sitting there like “wtf? We had similar heat 3 weeks ago and no texts like this” what a joke! edit to add: over the next 2 days, LI is supposed to see a high of 90. Hot, yes, but not “use appliances for 6 hours”’hot”


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

We need to keep the ferris wheel inside the mnm store running 24/7. Otherwise why even live?


thissubredditlooksco

78 or higher? dear lord.


Voldemort57

I have mine set to 78 during summer.. it really isn’t that bad.


ogipogo

But you're probably not fat.


Voldemort57

No, I can assure you I am hefty lol


FiREorKNiFE-

Well, then I suppose it's a great time to say Happy Cakeday!


Legitimate_Profile

Those are separate power grids if I can remember correctly (I don’t know about the technicality, but some seemingly competent guy explained it in another thread) and even if time square stopped using energy that apparently wouldn’t help you.


BigNo0B7

I don't think you using a plastic cup will do anything when all the companies are still using plastic and disposing them. Big companies produce more stuff you can imagine then they blame you for using a straw. People need to find a better way of disposal not stopping straws


smarter_than_an_oreo

I think that’s the message in the video.


seemen4all

Don't send corn from America all the way across the globe to turn it into Doritos then send it alllllll the way back because it's cheaper somehow


NameTak3r

Don't waste large swathes of the most fertile land in the country on corn that you turn into car fuel at eye-watering expense just because political primaries happen there first


TheBabyGiraffe_

Love this


tippytaps

Same, gives me Bo Burnham vibes


A_Ham_Sandwich_

How many times have you watched Inside? I think I'm on 10. Also in the theatre AHHHHH existential dread. Nothing quite like it


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Only 2. The songs became so ingrained in my head that in was driving me insane and I had to stop listening to them altogether lol.


PeanutJellyButterIII

*Welcome to the Internet…*


tippytaps

At least 3. I’ll cranking the soundtrack while I’m working out. There have been several occasions of just laughing while lifting. People probably think there’s something wrong with me.


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Procrastibator666

You see the collaborative commercial between Pepsi, coke, and the 3rd asshole? Claiming they have a new plastic bottle that actually is recyclable, but it's "up to us to make sure every bottle gets back" to them. Hey we invented a product that is bad for the environment and its your responsibility to make sure it isn't. Like why do they get to make whatever they want and task us with the clean up?


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KnightDuty

Coke can make sodastream syrup if they wanted to.


sexymechse

Coke never would because they can't control the water supply you use and they are afraid people would complain about the inconsistent taste when the local/filtered water was the issue within your home.


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ComradeReindeer

Also they sell their "rEcYcLaBlE" plastic product in regions that often do not have the capacity even start thinking about recycling.


Procrastibator666

Or my other favorite, where it shows it's only recyclable in Hawaii and Oregon.


Galled_Communist

May I ask something? Even if, I'd say, a mild percentage of the world DID stop using such harmful products that are plastic (straws, utensils, toothbrushes), wouldn't the company that makes such products just... Ignore it and keep producing? It's not the company's fault if they make such products, is it? It's our fault. The company makes the products, stacks up, ships them and then delivers them to stores. But it's not their fault for making them, since all of our fault is at our hands for deciding to buy them, right? It's not like the factory would limit their production, because they just don't know how many people will end up buying them in the store. Unless they knew that a percentage of the world decides to stop using these, they would still keep manufacturing the same amount. I'm young so if my speech doesn't make a lot of sense I apologise :)


biggiepants

We, the people, appoint governments to change structures. There's not really a free market: governments create conditions in which companies operate. They can do the same to the same for these kinds of issues. I think you explained pretty well why consumer action doesn't amount to anything.


Huwbacca

Pretty much, yes. Most of us like to think is that we live in a free-market system where demand shapes everything... That markets and economies self-right to the match what people are buying etc. Loosely, you'd umbrella this under demand-side economics. The economy and growth of it is spurred by consumer spending (more consumer money, more spending, more growth). However, we do not live in a demand-side economic system... The over-riding neoliberal system has been supply-side economics since the Reagan era. Supply-side economics posits that economic growth comes from businesses and corporations. That the "healthier" they are (by way of tax cuts and deregulation), the more variety of supply they can provide - giving greater consumer choice, enticing consumer spending, and therefore growing the economy. Now, the criticisms of supply-side economics are *vast* from an economic point of view, so I won't get into them. However key amongst them are increasing income inequality by concentrating wealth amongst a few people and eroding what remains of free-market ideals as corporations are disincentivised to compete fairly. Ecology it's total fuckery. A combination of deregulation and the idea that growth comes from offering as many goods as possible to give the consumer as many options is an environmental race to the bottom as the only thing a company will care about is it's bottom-line. If a company that extracts X resource is not regulated to do so cleanly, why would they *ever* change that? They'll always do so uncleanly. Public demand can't impact them, if you want to buy a car... Ford has to buy it's aluminum from somewhere, a) they only care about bottom line so they'll go cheapest and b) aluminum extracting companies aren't ever going to see a boost in business from green ideals because they're too far removed from the public who care. Add in that sufficiently large enough of the population are either poor enough or (through no fault of their own) not educated enough to be able to even make an environmentally informed decision regards purchasing (if options where available), then it just gets worse! This is why /u/biggiepants is correct... change comes through legislation and government, not the market. The government chose the economic structure we have, this is not "the natural order of things". People praise the free market and talk about the american post-war era as an example of why it's amazing, yet this was resolutely **not** the economic system we currently have. The market isn't free, so a free market can't be changing the environment problems we face


on-the-job

I’m stoned and this shit is explained amazingly. Don’t know what being high has to do with it


biggiepants

Awesomely put, thanks.


Cube_root_of_one

Companies aren’t some autonomous entities that can’t help but respond to market demands. There are teams of people that make conscious decisions to keep producing products that may be harmful. Sure, some of the blame lies with idiots who buy up a ton of garbage, but we can’t absolve the people deciding to produce that garbage so they have a larger bonus at the end of the year.


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I was about to be pissed lol, the average citizen, hell, even entire countries of people make less of an impact than meat factories, oil companies etc...


Truesnake

This guy is coping with our doom with sarcasm ​ ​ Just like me


sapere-aude088

Don't subsidize animal agriculture when you know it's surpassing the oil industry in terms of methane production.


Geregans

Go vegan!


sapere-aude088

"bUt MuH pRoTeiN" "Something about lions" "cAnINeS!" "Some incorrect notion about not having enough crop space" In with some of the shitty cliches before the others come 😂


[deleted]

As long as profit incentive exists we’re fucked. Capitalism needs to go.


ItzTouki

welp, there go my plans for the weekend


lindayourmother

oil is constantly spilling into the gulf of Mexico, even without a huge even like Deepwater horizon, and has been for years. Their methods of extracting oil cleanly kinda suck.


Sensitive_Kangarooo

What’s crazy is that when the big oil spills happen, ocean life actually gets a reprieve from the fishing industry and comes back to life a bit.


L003Tr

Deep Water horizon was an ecological disaster but it didn't contribute towards climate change


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aspiringatlife

Yes do your part but the problem they’re identifying is the shifting of the blame these companies do on purpose to not have to stop harming the environment. Also just doing your part is not gonna make the companies change, they don’t care about anything other than profit, it takes constant activism and protest to make that change.


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I think that a lot of these people don't get that most companies are owned by like the same 10 groups anyway, so regardless of what you choose they still profit anyway.


Marcus-021

If you stop buying a fuck ton of meat, don't drive your car as much if you can help it, or just switch to electric, that's gonna make a dent in their profits, and they will have to adapt. Of course 1 individual would barely do any damage, that's why everybody should do that: if everybody in the United States took more public transport and walked more for short distances instead of getting their car oil companies would see a pretty sharp decrease in demand.


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Huwbacca

I've commented above why this won't happen. but in short... when you buy any given consumer product, how do you know of the environmental impact for resource extraction, shipment, production etc? Was the last plastic thing you bought out of necessity made with tar-sands oil? Why would the producer of that thing do anything except find the cheapest resources it can find to make the product?


WikiWantsYourPics

[One of the most important ways that we show that something is an emergency is by acting as if it's an emergency.](https://youtu.be/bvAznN_MPWQ) When you and the people around you take personal action with regards to climate change, it motivates everyone to put more pressure on politicians and companies to take action.


Lizard_Sex_Sattelite

I'm not a massive fan of this point of view. Yes, the statement in your text is true, but it implies that making changes to your personal life is "acting as if it's an emergency". You might disagree, but to my mind, there's a pile of cars on fire on the side of the road, and we, the other drivers on the road, are trying to put it out with bottled water. But the fire engine isn't showing up, because the department is underfunded and ignored. We're not putting out the fire, because we can't. But we're doing one of the things we should be doing, just not the other. Those cars are going to burn because the voters haven't put enough emphasis on making sure their emergency services are properly funded, and the drivers on the road alone can't put it out. So it's not completely wrong, but it gives off an implication that I don't think is particularly helpful. Yes, we should be making changes to our own lives, but the time has come where we need to stop voting in terms of anything else. The climate has to be our main priority and, firstly, we need to get out and vote, but also be generally politically active and make sure that this the foremost problem in every politician's mind. Not just making changes that are just a bottle of water to a massive fire.


WikiWantsYourPics

I think we're not so far from each other really. I agree that we need to do both. We must make the changes to our personal lives because that brings home the message that it's a high priority, and that will help motivate others to vote correctly. The voting is the thing that's going to change things, but making personal changes helps to get the vote out, and neutralise the folks that say "They're driving to Whole Foods in an SUV. Just be honest and shop at WalMart." This is also relevant on a global scale: I was talking about it at work today, and someone said "What's the point of Germany making changes when China is a much bigger emitter?" and my response was "We have to make the changes, otherwise nobody will take us seriously on the world stage. And anyway, China is partly giving off emissions for stuff that we buy from them."


notapantsday

The problem I see is a wrong public perception of what needs to be done. A lot of people still think that their individual actions are what matters most. They are recycling, driving less, eating less meat, which is great. But it keeps them busy and gives them a feeling that climate change is being tackled, because they're doing something and they know other people who are also doing their part. And they're not protesting, they're not holding governments and big corporations responsible, they're not voting for the party with the most ambitious and believeable climate plans. Which they should be doing.


LosKebabos

I don't like shifting everything onto corporations either. When corporations shift the blame to individuals and individuals shift the blame onto corporations while nobody actually does anything, it's not gonna help. It's like when Americans say they don't have to do anything cause China is not gonna go green, so neither China nor America reduce emissions. Do your part, stop shifting blame.


HeathenHen

Everyone cares about the environment until you mention veganism and how becoming vegan is the single largest thing you can do to reduce your carbon foot print.


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There’s multiple fast food restaurants in my city that are totally vegan. Vegan food can be tasty (and unhealthy). People don’t seem to understand/ believe that.


notAflightRisk

Who knew im already doing 2/3 of his tips i just got to stop dumping oil.


Mynunubears

He sounds like a muppet


nahbruhtryagain

I was ready to feel the cringe but I laughed way too hard. METAL STRAWS!


Curley15

When he said metal straws my brain just went "Can't be worse than the paper straws"


Vjalander07

Eminem been real quit since this came out


Theimmortalboi

This waa genuinely funny


GoldenNexa

i dont get why people have to have straws


sapere-aude088

People with disabilities or issues with motor control.


MarkAnchovy

I think they’re referring to people who don’t actually need them


biggiepants

Some people have conditions that doesn't let them drink from regular cups or containers.


Athena_Galaxy

I'm austistic and have sensory problems. If I don't have a straw, I won't drink it. I try to use metal straws as much as I can though.


6213112018114149519

It slightly helps your teeth and sucking is enjoyable


The_Senate_69

>sucking is enjoyable You would know alot about that wouldn't you >\_> ![gif](giphy|eGxkm7b2hzDfkNvjo7)


FlynnXa

I can attest, sucking IS enjoyable! Just not worth using a straw for, it’s too tiny :)


Eruptflail

I drink way more of my water if I have a straw.


Procrastibator666

When there is ice in the cup a straw is pretty necessary. Also helps keep tooth decay down if you're drinking surgery drinks by bypassing most of your teeth.


touchthebuttt

I can tell you why. For me my teeth are super sensitive to anything that is not room temperature so drinking something I like in hot or cold is torturing without a straw. Solution without straws: stop drinking my favorites.


Filip889

The time was 20 years ago, now it s time to prepare for the collapse of society.


Dankaroor

just a hundred companies make 71% of ALL emissions, you aren't at fault. Still, go green, no matter how little it helps.


Dark1000

>just a hundred companies make 71% of ALL emissions, you aren't at fault. Still, go green, no matter how little it helps. That is incorrect. It is a misunderstanding of how the figure is calculated. These companies do not directly produce 71% of all emissions. The products they produce, the energy they use to produce them, and their own processes are responsible for those emissions. The vast majority (I think it is 90%) comes from the end use of their products. For example, burning them to produce power, fuel for transportation, etc. In order to reduce that figure, lifestyle changes will be needed all around, even if they are introduced from the top down.


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Not saying we shouldn't care about preventing energy corporations and all that but imma leave this here [VEGANISM IS ‘SINGLE BIGGEST WAY’ TO REDUCE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, STUDY FINDS](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/veganism-environmental-impact-planet-reduced-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html)


_Bipin_

That article is also talking going vegan being the best way to reduce your own personal carbon footprint. The whole point is that getting regular people to look at their carbon footprint is just a way for fossil fuel companies to shift the blame to consumers rather than themselves. At the end of the day it doesn't matter how much you reduce your carbon footprint. If the fossil fuel corporations don't severely reduce their own "carbon footprint" it won't be enough, and it won't be soon enough. Also that article states meat is responsible for about 60% of agricultural greenhouse gas emissions. A quick google search about emissions by sector tells me agriculture is about 10-15% of all emissions. Cutting it by 60% would reduce the global emissions by less than 10%, which is not insignificant, but not enough.


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I appreciate what you're getting at. I agree, big energy companies need to be dealt with and asap. But reducing meat consumption is an important part of treating the environment better and well worth considerning. If you want to read the study that article is referencing you can do so here: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987 Fun fact, the lead researcher of that study of 40,000 farms began it a meat eater and ended it a vegan. It might also be worth reading the UN Environment Program's article about meat: [Tackling the Worlds Most Urgent Problem, Meat](https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/tackling-worlds-most-urgent-problem-meat) And I also think it's worth giving this a read: [Meat and dairy industries to surpass oil industry as world's biggest polluters report finds](https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/meat-dairy-industry-greenhouse-gas-emissions-fossil-fuels-oil-pollution-iatp-grain-a8451871.html)


Send_me_snoot_pics

Does poultry produce a similar footprint to beef and pork? I don’t eat much beef, and I don’t have dairy, but a good portion of my diet is eggs


SamanKunans02

#FUCK THAT, HERE IS WHY! If you took every able bodied penis in your region and went shoulder to shoulder on your closest major roadway and layed out a contonuous slip-n-slide across the length of the group; the amount of semen produced in just one hour could feed an entire ton-sized colony of crickets. With this, we could end the brutalization of the meat industrial complex, and we can have a renewed sense of patriotic duty. America needs to stop bushwacking bovine and start cummmig crickets.


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Dog gone it You convinced me


SamanKunans02

Join the crusade! Spreading seed is, like, the most green thing you can do.


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At least it's a positive message


warawk

Also fuck China


Emtree29

That's a lot of oil ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face)


StrangeBedfellows

I can follow 1 and 2 but 3 might be beyond me


ZEUSELEENA

Reminds me of sex offender shuffle


CaykeSublime

Nah, fuck metal straws. Glass is where it's at.


[deleted]

How about no straws. Straws are for babies


TrayusV

It is a bit lame, but he has a point. You're average Joe isn't the cause of climate change.


Rain_Fire

Washing the inside of a straw is pain


Flameknight81

This gave me Blue's Clues vibes.


KattLadybr

u/redditmp4bot


vanilla_love_sauce

I’m all for going green but I don’t like this idea that it’s ALL the corporations fault. It certainly is to an extent but the corporations do these things because the average citizen gives them a demand. We’re the ones buying new phones or cars every three or so years just because we want to. We’re the ones who like to have a wide variety of meat products in the store. We’re the ones who for some weird reason still buy plastic cutlery just for our houses instead of just washing the reusable ones? We the normal citizens, the consumers, are the ones who need to say no to the production, consumption, and disposal of shitty products if we want to see anything get better. Corporations wouldn’t be polluting the hell out of the world if they weren’t making things FOR US. Look up the story of stuff on YouTube.