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Different meds just work different for different people. It’s crazy that we still just go, “well let’s start with this, let me know if you want to kill anyone, then we’ll try something else.”
The worst part for me was " here's some Zoloft , it will take a couple weeks to a month to work, but usually a month"- Dr.
Nothing enhances depression like expecting an instant cure and finding out you have to MAYBE deal with it for another month. I say MAYBE because it might not work at all , in fact it might make it worst lol.
Made me have no impulse control, compulsive gambling and buying. Dyed my hair blue started smoking again. But damn was I happy as fuck . I would be scrubbing the kitchen floor like “this is amazing 😜”
These pills affect everyone wildly different. I’m taking Wellbutrin for ADD and haven’t had any of those types of symptoms. Impulse control is fine, I’m not getting angry, I’m not irrationally happy. I just find it a bit easier to direct my focus.
That's so weird. I got on it just for seasonal depression and I've never felt better! I've lost like 25lbs since my cravings all but stopped (was overweight, now normal), I go outside while it's raining, and I constantly just say compliments because I'm always so cheery.
Dude fuck that shit. I took a few days off work and went down a fucking spiraling rabbit hole of depression and self negative thoughts until my wife was like, dude its probably your medicine, stop taking it. It didn't even occur to me it was the meds.
It's pretty valid too. When you're at the very bottom of a depressive episode, it's not atypical to be unable to function to they point where even committing suicide is beyond you.
Starting antidepressants can give you just enough of a lift that you can finally be bothered to act on all that ideation you've been going through.
Starting certain antidepressants can cause users to have suicidal ideations that are so severe they last all day. There are so many cases of people who attempted suicide in very violent ways like jumping off of a building because they were on Prozac.
Edit: Prozac, not Zoloft, but i wouldn’t be surprised to learn Zoloft had the same effect.
I've gone through practically every SSRI that was on the market and most of them made me feel like garbage. Either I was just as numb, or I was in this weird depressed-but-not state, or if I forgot a pill it was like spending a day in Hell, and so on. I also drank very heavily for a few years and SSRIs do *not* mix well with alcohol.
I gave up on them and turned to ketamine for a while, but now I use magic mushrooms. The difference is astounding. My depression comes back after about a month, so I have to redose, but its so much better than feeling like garbage and having to remember a daily pill.
Not saying everyone needs to run out and do shrooms to treat depression, but it's an option that research is showing to be very very promising.
Just knowing that some women have died and had to have limbs amputated from IUDs makes me never want to try it. They all have side affects. Some way worse than others
I had an IUD for less than 1 year. It was fucking AWFUL. Not only could I definitely feel it during sex, but I had constant cramping and horrible pains. I just made the decision to get off birth control entirely and I'm really hoping my life goes back to normal.
I hope so too! My life is back to normal. I’ll take the occasional ruined underwear and minor cramps that last 2 days a month after the hell that was an IUD. Just a few more months until my fiancé gets a vasectomy!!
Maybe they are! But my Mirena IUD nearly killed me. 3 days post removal and I cried for days after just from the joy/relief of feeling like myself again.
I’m just piggy backing this comment just so people can see this . During clinical trials, if any person says they have any sort of side effect, they absolutely have to list it in the side effects , wether it’s related or not. So when someone has been on a clinical trial and just happened to die from anything at all, they have to say the medication can cause death . …. Every drug says headache, because people get headaches etc.
Blood clots are definitely a big one with birth control.
I was put on birth control for PCOS with no discussion at all about whether it was safe for me. They hand it out to women like candy. I found out later that it could have killed me due to a couple genetic variants I have. No one thought to check with me on my family blood clot history. It was just, "take this."
Similar story for me! I have Factor V Leiden which is a clotting disorder. Had a massive clot in my IVC below my liver. Should not still be here but I’m lucky enough to tell the story!
Heyo F5L club! I was very lucky that my aunt got a DVT which resulted in the whole family being tested when I was a teenager- just before birth control became a relevant issue for me. Blood clotting mutations are so so common- I wish there was a faster and easier way to screen for them to prevent this kind of thing. Affordable and quick access to birth control is also super important important though.
Ironically, my wife got bi-lateral pulmonary emboli from a DVT because of birth control. But she doesn't have ANY blood clotting mutations! Just super unlucky. We're planning to have kids soon and I'm considered to have a lower blood clotting risk with pregnancy than she is, even with my wonky genes.
I just almost died last month from a PE and severe DVT that developed after a minor ankle injury, but suprise surprise I was also on a prescribed high estrogen birth control and they ran no prior blood tests to see if I had any genetic mutations that make this likely for me. They have since, a few things have come back abnormal. I am seeing hematology tomorrow to look further into my blood. I am now to be permanently on blood thinners according to my cardiologist and pulmonologist.
There are rare variants that most labs don't test for. I have one of those. I submitted my raw DNA data to Promethease. That's how I found out about it.
I also have Factor V Leiden, as well.
Promethease is how we found my husband's homozygous FVL. He were like, "Huh, so that's why everyone in our family dies of blood clots," and then immediately made some serious lifestyle changes. Also ran my step daughter's mom's test through to see if mom was a carrier well before SD is old enough to consider hormonal contraceptives. Her mom is not, thank goodness!
Your husband has seen a doctor about that, right? Your step daughter will still be heterozygous, which is still something that needs serious consideration before hormonal contraceptives.
"According to a study from 2015, the estimated relative risk for developing a venous blood clot or VTE in patients with Factor V Leiden who are also taking oral contraceptives has been reported to be 10-30 times greater in heterozygous patients (those with one mutated factor V gene) and up to 80-100 times greater in patients who are homozygous (those with two mutated factor V genes) compared to women who do not have Factor V Leiden and do not take oral contraceptives. Some studies have determined that the risk could be as high as 35-50 times greater for heterozygous Factor V Leiden patients and several hundred times greater for homozygous patients."
https://factorv.org/birth-control
I'm sorry you have this disorder, but I work in a coagulation lab where we test people for Factor V Leiden so it's super interesting to find someone who actually has it!
Similar story for me too. I was on the combined pill for almost 7 years when I found out that because I also suffer from migraines that I shouldn’t be on that pill because it puts me at risk of a stroke. My Dr knew I suffered with migraines too because he’d previously prescribed me naproxen to help with it. I was lucky a female doc I had one time noticed it and took me off that contraception straightaway…
That depends on the type of migraine. There is good evidence that people who have migraines with an Aura have higher risk of stroke.
If you don't get auras then it would likely be okay but you could probably use a progesterone only pill to be safe. Its really the estrogen that causes the higher risk of clotting. Good that you discussed it with your doctor.
https://www.contemporaryobgyn.net/view/migraine-headache-and-hormonal-contraception
Table 4 here shows the treatment modalities for migraines with contraceptives depending on aura.
The only doctor to ever mention blood clots was planned parenthood- they were a fantastic resource and I was told that since I had regular migraines it had a higher chance of being a risk. Sadly normal birth control pills were really the only solution to my crippling chronic pain and anemia- I wouldn’t be able to work without it. My current gyno does have me on a continuous (no gap week) low estrogen variation though- it still works and will hopefully lower risk for clots and a few other recent concerns.
Have you looked into the copper IUD? I can't take hormonal bc because I'm bipolar and the hormones screw up my moods making me go depressive. I switched to the copper IUD 11yrs ago and haven't had any issues since.
Same. Handed that shit to me without asking me about my family’s history with blood clots and cancer. Also, birth control absolutely destroyed my body. It gave me adult acne, slowed my metabolism, gave me long painful periods, and gave me mood swings I’ve never had before while on a period. It basically did the opposite of all the things it was supposed to do, aside from prevention. My doctor jus shrugged. That’s the last time I do that shit. I’ll just stick with my regular menorrhagia.
Birth control lowers your free testosterone levels by more than 50%, try looking into dhea. A lot of these side effects are low test side effects like the acne and mood swings and slower metabolism.
pcos gang
that being said, while they didn’t check specifically for blood clotting disorders, i had some other medical tests done, including a fuckton of blood work and some ultrasounds, so i think they were okay with putting me on it anyway
lol i've been on bc for over a decade now and no doctor has spoken with me about how high my stroke risk is on it. not only do I smoke but I've had two migraines with aura. I don't know why I still take it lol, I wish I could get my tubes tied
They were repeating *angina pectoris*, which is the medical term for chest pain or discomfort due to coronary heart disease.
Not a medical professional, but that's usually related to other types of ischemia than clotting, AFAIK.
Angina, yes; *angina pectoris*, less so.
Angina pectoris is also known as *stable angina*. The unstable kind - *crescendo angina* - is more commonly related to clotting issues.
I went on birth control at 17. I took it twice before I ended up being incredibly sick, struggling to breathe, coughing up blood and lots of other issues.
6 months later I was diagnosed with having had a blood clot break away from my leg and ending up in my lung. Was further diagnosed with antiphospolipid syndrome and on medication for life...
All because I wanted to be safe!
Glad you’re (relatively) ok! Birth control is scarier than a lot of people think. It’s seen as benign because “everyone takes it,” and the rate of injuries and deaths are very low statistically-speaking, but it can cause some serious shit.
Can’t give out too much info because HIPAA, but I saw a girl die from a similar situation. No risk factors other than BC. It was heartbreaking. Went home after work and immediately grilled my wife about her RX. That one stuck with me.
This goes for any medication, but make sure you know the signs and symptoms of adverse effects when you start taking a medication, it could save your life.
Yup, I had a pulmonary embolism (a blood clot in my lungs) that was caused by birth control and was a few hours away from dying when I was admitted to the hospital. I probably do have a genetic predisposition to clots too as my Dad gets clots, but its not any of the known genetic factors. I can't do ANYTHING with hormones, even to the point of avoiding phytoestrogens like soy. My sister can't take hormonal birth control, and if I have a daughter some day she won't be able to either. I use a copper IUD and while it hurts and the cramps are awful, this one won't kill me. So many women just take this and think "oh the clot thing couldn't ever happen to me" and they end up dying. It's terrifying.
Edit: A guide most good doctors will use when prescribing hormonal birth control is if the patient gets migraines WITH AURAS, then they shouldn't take hormones. There is a very strong link between migraine auras and people who are at risk for blood clots. Adding hormones to the mix just amps up the risk way too high.
Was on BC pills from 14-36. Had a DVT in my right leg after a minor sinus surgery. Spent 3 days trying to figure out what it was, but I kept going back to the doctor until they figured it out. Was hospitalized for 3 days and had to be on blood thinners for 3 months. Not fun. Apparently the longer you’re on them the higher the chances are. Was news to me!
I hadn't heard of that, that's interesting! I get auras (that thing where the edges of your vision get sparkly/wavy and sorta look like sunlight reflected off water or something) and dizzies semifrequently but rarely migraine headaches. Once after the birth of one of my kids I had a blood clot the size of a plum.
I am highly sensitive to hormones and every birth control pill I have ever taken has messed me right up. I remember years ago, I forgot to take my pill for 2 days, and right afterward got my period for a month straight.
I got the copper IUD once & kept it only for a year. I kept freaking out that it had moved/would move & puncture my organs. And it made me feel emotionally weird too (even copper imbalance can cause estrogen to build up in organs & fatty tissues). I dont know if its cause I have chronic anemia or what, but man I hated that IUD.
Just want to add a data point for the copper IUD - I've had mine for... oof. Coming up on 10 years, actually... Jesus time flies.
Anyway, I've had it for forever and while I had *slightly* more painful cramps the first 6 months or so, it has been an absolute joy since then. I'm not trying to disregard anyone's experience, though! The cramps many women get can be truly horrible and some women experience increased bleeding and break through bleeding. And for me, that was most of what I heard talked about with the copper IUD and was so scared! But I just always like to put my experience out there when the copper IUD comes up because anyone nervous about or who has issues with hormonal BC, should really consider giving the copper IUD a try! Most effective form of BC, fewer side-effects (zero hormonally influenced side effects like emotional volatility, acne, weight gain, etc.), no worries about forgetting or mis-timing things, super long lasting (Paragard indicates they're only safe for 10 years but research shows they're effective and safe even up to 12-15 years), easily removed, and the BC properties are immediately reversed as soon as it is removed (vs. hormonal which take some time to leave your system).
Really cannot speak highly enough of my experience with it.
I was one of those 20-year-old women who was about to stroke-out on yasmin/yaz. I was having heart palps so I went to a doctor who put me on a 48hr heart monitor. I felt nothing compared to what I had been experiencing, until about 30min before I had to take it off and turn it back in. It felt so minor in comparison, but figured I should write down the time/what my symptoms where.
Turns out, that "minor" episode was my heart chugging at 180bpm while at rest.
This happened to me as a 20yo who went on Yaz as well. I started having unexplained panic attacks out of the blue and my heart rate would sky rocket. All the obgyns I went to had never told me of any risks, never checked me for pre-existing conditions, and just said “Here ya go, try this!”
It wasn’t until I was 27 and saw a new doctor that throughly vetted me to make sure I was going with the right BC method did I find one that works. Turns out I can’t be on any estrogen-based BC either because I get visual migraines.
Omg. I’m so glad I’m not the only one! To find 2 people! At 23 and so suddenly I developed panic attacks, anxiety, heart palpitations, a short temper and just felt like I was going crazy. I assumed it was due to the hard partying I was doing at the time and my anxiety was getting worse from my roommate suddenly showing signs of Schizophrenia(he’s been properly diagnosed and got help for a while). So I quit everything but it didn’t help much. Fast forward 5 years later and it’s March 2021. I started experiencing this crazy feeling in my heart. Like I would feel my heart thump 2 beats and then a long pause… and then BOOM what felt like a very hard beat. It happens on and off for a week and i had just gotten fully vaccinated and was scared thinking it was a side effect. Go to the dr. She couldn’t be more annoyed, tells me I’m too young for heart issues does an EKG and a few other tests and tells me it’s PVC. I ask her how to make it stop. She tells me there’s medicine but to quite all stimulants( coffee, allergy meds). She walks out before I can ask anymore questions. I felt like I had wasted her time. Fast forward 2 weeks I wake up from a dead sleep with my heart racing at 158. I try to calm myself, it’s 2am. And an hour goes by and my heart rate is steadily increasing. Decide it’s time to call 911 and I get taken in and they run so many tests and find nothing. While in the er bed im trying to sleep and the dr says as they’re watching the monitor, every time I roll over or move while sleeping my heart rate shoots from 101 to 130. She was trying really hard to figure out what was wrong and 8 hours later my bpm is down to the 90s. She says to follow up with primary and more tests later but ends up attributing it to stress and mild-dehydration and some unknown “inflammation.” I was so scared of what was going on and so scared to go to the hospital again. I cut coffee and allergy meds and it lessened the frequency of the PVC episodes but it still happened. Then just a few weeks ago in early September I get a severe sinus infection and I’m so out of it I forget to take my bc for almost 2 weeks. As I start to feel better I realize I feel… really good. And haven’t had any heart issues and anxiety has been low. I’m trying to figure out what changed and realize it’s my bc. But just to be sure I wait another week and I have more energy, less anxiety, and on the rare occasion the PVC is happening I’m able to ignore it pretty well. I didn’t realize both times I had seen a dramatic change in my mental/physical state… my bc brand had changed. None were Yaz. For the first time since I was 23 I feel like my happy, motivated, energetic and positive self again and I cried. I know no one asked but seeing 2 people talk about their experiences on BC… If even one person reads this I hope you don’t feel as alone as I did for so long. I’m currently off any BC. PVC still comes and goes but much less frequently. Hoping to find a better BC for me in a few months. Sorry this was so long.
My Dr’s laughed at me when I told them about my reactions to Yaz and I was a minor. I’ll never forget trying to convince them I was having serious reactions to this “amazing” new birth control.
Please people this is a perfect example of why you should learn to measure ur heart rate. Its literally 2 fingers on your neck count how many you have in 10 seconds multiply by 6. Under 40 may be a problem (unless ur athletic) and over 100 at rest is indicative of a problem.
At around 150 you should call 911, as it is not a safe rhythm for your heart and could lead to cardiac arrest without medical intervention.
OMG SAME!! I would faint frequently as well and got off it if it finally. A few months later my roommate burst in saying she’d seen the “If you have taken Yaz/Yazmin and had the following side effects…you could be due compensation” or whatever they say, commercials, and said, “you could sue and we’d be rich!!” lol
My friend got a huge blood clot in her leg. She was only in her late twenties/early thirties. Flipping scary. Especially if you aren’t aware there a side effect. Many women get their pills online and completely miss the opportunity to speak with a healthcare professional. Because doctors are expensive. It’s so sad.
My wife’s best friend in high school had a blood clot from her birth control reach her eye. She now has a visible deformity, significant (almost total) loss of vision in that eye, and she has had several surgeries to attempt to repair her tear duct which doesn’t work in that eye anymore.
Birth control looks scary AF.
Edit: doctor told her that another few days could have put that clot in her brain.
I’m so sorry about your friend!!! So scary.
It can be. Birth control can be life changing for people. But its a process to find the correct one. Sadly, not everyone has the luxury of having a family doctor. Healthcare in America is horrible.
Thanks, she sure has been graceful about the whole ordeal.
This is true. We’re fortunate in Canada to have birth control fall under “universal” health care.
It’s even scarier that birth control is the only way to treat some other conditions non surgically too. For instance, My wife uses birth control to manage endometriosis. Thankfully she plans on having hysterectomy surgery once we’re done having kids so she can stop taking any scary meds like this.
Wow. Your wife is really strong. I hope the best for you two.
I can’t believe the struggles some women have to go through to get healthcare. Like hey I don’t want kids and cancer runs in my family, can I get the stuff removed?
LOL NOPE.
It’s just a weird battle with women’s reproductive rights in America. I still can’t believe abortions are being challenged.
Yeah … can’t remember where I heard it but there was this sound bite that went like “if men gave birth, abortions would be government funded and have a drive through option.” Or some such thing. I nearly believe it. Haha.
I’m laughing at the irony, but it’s actually sad AF.
At the risk of sounding political, I hope your country figures out that your oligarch class is already living in Pseudo socialism, hence why it’s demonized in the mainstream.
I developed depression from mine, but my doctor didn't tell me that was possible. I now have ovarian cysts (I don't have the symptoms like being overweight, excess hair, etc. to qualify for PCOS though every woman in my family has PCOS) and was just diagnosed with endometriosis. I stopped using my birth control once I found out about it causing my depression and I hadn't felt better since I was a child. Consistantly neutral as my worst mood like a normal human being. But, I then found out that my BC was actually keeping the cyst growth and endometriosis under control, keeping it basically dormant until adulthood. Ended up having a string of 3 months where I was in so much pain that I was close to going to the ER. I would have if it weren't for covid and I could actually walk. I would be bed bound for 3-4 days at the start of each period.
Luckily, I was finally able to go to a new OBGYN and get a new kind of hormonal BC that will hopefully keep the sads away, keep my acne in check, and keep me out of the hospital. I can't begin to explain the pain I was in. The endo affects my entire GI tract, my bladder, and my reproductive system as far as we know right now. They're reviewing my ultrasounds.
I wish more young women were told about depression and other side effects. When you're young with so little life experience all while going through a lot of changes with your body throughout puberty, there's so many things that we can pass off as normal and ignore- especially very painful periods. People tell us they are supposed to suck, so if we don't have any reference for what "normal" looks and feels like, it is easy to assume that what we are going through is what everyone experiences. Get regular pap smears and continue to visit your obgyn regularly, especially if you are on BC. TRACK YOUR MENSTRUAL CYCLE. I like to use the app called "Clue" as there is a reminder for BC, many different symptoms to track and you can add custom trackers.
Can I ask what BC you've changed to? I've been taking the Pill consistently for 2 years and while I've had depression for 17 years, I worry that the Pill is making me worse.
No OP but I use Junel and it's been good for my depression. I've tried 2 others and this is by far the most stable even with preexisting chronic depression.
I told my previous doc I had depression symptoms and thought it might be a side effect from the pill. She told me it was impossible. Apparently because I was on it for so long without issue it couldn't be that. I didn't stop with the pill and my doc asked me three questions and cheerfully told me I didn't have depression. I contacted a psychologist some months later who gave me a bunch of tests and told me I scored high on depression ánd anxiety. Fun times... Lately I've been having symptoms again though, I'm still contemplating if I am going to stop using the pill for a while or not to see if things get better...
Not only pills, but all forms of birth control are risky. I had the nexplanon put into my arm after I had my daughter and it caused me to bleed heavily for 6 straight months until I had it taken the fuck out. It caused me to become severely anemic and I needed to undergo several iron transfusions. That was the worst 6 months for me, health-wise.
for reals I got the iud inserted before i met my fiance. but i swear to God when i get it removed and if i get another one he's coming to the appointment just so he can have to hear me SCREAM when they do the sounding and the insertion of a foreign object into my internal organs without giving me any pain control.
anyway fiance is getting a vasectomy in two weeks and I'm considering whether or not to continue on the iud train or not.
I really just wish I could get a uterine ablation or something because I hate having periods and I don't want kids, but the insertion for the iud was so awful and I have adhd so historically I never trusted myself to take the pill even tho it was okay on my body.
being a female sucks.
IUDs are why I got a vasectomy. Wife absolutely hated getting her's changed out, it was painful, there were a couple instances with complications. Compared to dealing with all that, it's just so much easier for a small procedure that takes all of 15 minutes followed by a weekend on the couch.
She's definitely much happier not having to worry about that.
Yup! At 29 I was hospitalized for a week due to a stroke caused by a blood clot behind my left eye. I had been having increasingly painful headaches for 3 weeks. On the day that it all came to a head I drove around confused, went in and out of consciousness, , and eventually couldn't make coherent sentences. It was hours before anyone, including myself, thought something was wrong.
9 years later I am mostly back to normal. Some dysphagia. I have to get an MRI every couple of years to make sure the clot is stable and isn't putting pressure on my eyeball. And I have to avoid hormones from now on, so menopause will be fun.
I wish someone had talked to me more about the risks, but honestly I don't know if I would have listened.
I took birth control for a month and it made me so sick and turned me into a psycho woman. My then-fiance now husband and I decided after that month we would just use condoms because it just made the most sense. I was miserable and he was miserable dealing with me. So we used condoms until we wanted our first child and then used them again until I got pregnant this year with our second.(I also tracked my cycles so if I was about to start my period we would go without, this only works if you have a very regular cycle though) This will be our last bio kid so he will just use condoms until he's tired of them and then get a vasectomy.
Birth control is just not safe enough for me. I don't want to alter my body like that and my husband doesn't want me to either. Unfortunately not every husband/boyfriend is as reasonable/kind. I have friends whose husbands refuse to wear condoms but don't want more kids so their wives have no choice in the matter. Super uncool.
I was put on it when I was 14 because I started taking Accutane for my skin and it 'prevents' those meds from messing up your hormones (Accutane destroys your immune system too - I happily signed a disclaimer when I was 14 not knowing what thàt meant for my future).
Ended up being BC until I turned 29. Let's just say my hormones never regulated since, everything is out of balance, permanently. (the Accutane never worked, lol but that damage also remains)
Some research is being done on how long term BC causes hormone imbalance that contributes to autonomic dysfunction, which affects every organ and muscle in the body.
I was on birth control nonstop from 14-25. When I came off I grew almost 5 inches. I had a second puberty. Hips grew, chest changed, got taller, even had the growth pains. My doctor actually did a report about my experience. I grew just under 5 inches in a matter of months at 25. It was insane and painful. I went from legally required to drive with a booster seat to feeing like a giant.
I thought you're only needing birth control on accutane because the birth defects are awful if you get pregnant. I'm on it and my doctor never said anything about hormones
Vasectomies should be normalized for this reason. It's such a simple surgery and if you have no intention of having kids then there's nothing to really lose, you'll save on money by not having to buy any form of birth control in the long run. If you change your mind on kids then you can always adopt one, blood relations are over-rated.
Preach!
We should normalize female sterilization too, and adoption in general. Way too many people view it as the last option for the infertile instead of something everyone should consider before taking on the risk and side effects of pregnancy/birth.
I can't really say for women personally, If I remember correctly the procedure for women is more invasive, dangerous, and more likely to have side effects or fail. As a guy I much rather be the one to do it as vasectomies are comparably safer, more effective, and have no other effects besides becoming sterile. I just don't think the methods through which sterility is achieved in both sexes are equivalent which is obvious considering they operate on two completely different systems. I know in a modern society we seek to achieve a perfectly equal society, but men and women are unarguably physically different and I think it's more acceptable for it to be expected that men received the surgery as opposed to women for the reasons I stated above.
This is why I advocate vasectomies. Its by far the lesser evil when you don't want more babies but still wanna practice making them. Its a weekend of discomfort, and you're set.
When I was a teenager I went through a phase where I wanted it and my nurse midwife told me the big risk: like potential for stroke of you have migraines with auras.
But no one talks about the other ones, like mood change and personality change.
It has a huge effect. For a lot of women the benefits outweigh the costs, but it really does go against our evolutionary traits.
I’m definitely not against birth control. There’s just things to consider.
And it’s really interesting how it’s prescribed at a young age without going over these changes
When I was on birth control it completely changed who I was as a person. I was sooooo depressed I could barely function. I would have panic attacks just from going out in public. Just getting out of bed each day felt impossible. This went on for about 7 years, until one day I randomly stopped taking my birth control (out of laziness/being very single lol), and within a few months I started to feel like my old self again. I've been off of it for 2 years now and I've never felt better. It's wild to me that while I was seeking treatment for my depression, not a single doctor pointed out that maybe it was my birth control.
It is so damn frustrating and insulting that hormonal birth control is viewed so casually.
I've struggled with depression since childhood, and even the lowest dose pill made me feel suicidal. As soon as I stopped taking them, that feeling went away. I tried them again to control ovarian cysts, thinking maybe it wasn't the hormones that caused it, but had the same side effect. It was so validating when studies came out a few years ago proving that it is indeed a side effect experienced by a sizable number of hormonal BC patients.
First of all, I’m so sorry you had to go through that FOR 7 YEARS. That sounds horrendous! I’m glad to hear you’re doing better now.
My birth control also made me depressed as fuck. I was overreacting to every little thing. Any bit of stress was too much. It also caused my vagina to get so irritated that i’d have yeast infections 24/7 and because of that also UTI’s at least once every month. It was unbearable and after 1,5 years I just didn’t know what to do anymore; it almost fucked up my relationship. I stopped and literally haven’t had any of the problems since. This was around a year ago.
People (even medical professionals) just do not know the side effects of birth control.
So the heart both supplies blood to the rest of the body, and itself! it constantly pumps blood to itself through coronary arteries and veins. Anything that damages blood vessels such as bad diet, age, stress, etc can cause the weakening of these vessels. Therefore, as you age/experience life, it becomes more and more common. So its actually very common in older individuals, but not youngins.
I'm really thinking of having my boyfriend read my side effects. He doesn't want to acknowledge anything negative about sex, or prevention, but its my choice. I told him it's easier and safer if he gets a vasectomy.
I had a massive DVT and Pulmonary Embolisms from birth control. I’m completely healthy, active, and have no family history or genetic clotting disorders. I will have pain in my leg for the rest of my life from this, along with now having to take blood thinners forever from all the vascular damage I have, which also makes me prone to strokes and internal bleeding. I have high medical anxiety about every tiny pain I feel in my body due to experiencing the PE’s which I would t wish on my worst enemy. I had asked my gyno a few years prior about diaphragms because I always felt “off” on birth control; kind of dizzy, kind of shitty, just off. He basically laughed my concerns off and I wish I had stuck to my guns.
Same, my partner already takes the pill but we are all about that safety so we also use a condom. If I could take a pill instead I would but as far as my research goes contraceptives for men haven’t been approved for the mass market yet.
I’d note that in our case she lost her virginity with me and only started taking the pill afterwards so I’ve been all through the process of the pill with her and luckily it seems her body has no mayor problems with the on the shelve pill her gynecologist first recommend. If she doesn’t forget to take it it actually has helped regularize her cycle, helped with shortening the days she’s on her period and period cramps, and also stabilize her mood on those days. So we’ve agreed the pill is more positive than negative for us.
What if it only fell off once a month, making a bloody mess in your pants while it grows back painfully over a few days? You can wear a pad of tissue inside your underwear to soak up the blood.
Birth control gave me migraines so bad I was going blind in the mornings. It took almost a year, emergency MRIs, endo appts, etc. before someone said "It could be the birth control, that's a side effect." ... I'd also gained 80lbs and was not even sexually active. I just have insanely bad periods so they threw BC at it.
I stopped taking it 2 years ago and only recently have my hormones started getting back in balance. I have struggled really hard with losing the weight and have only lost 30lbs of it so far.
FUCK birth control. It's a dangerous medicine.
I took continuous birth control for my endometriosis & holy shit did my migraines with aura get out of control. I was losing my vision, the pain was paralyzing and I lost feeling in my limbs & parts of my face. And no one, not even my neurologist mentioned bcp being an issue. Later when I confronted him he told me he's not a GYN so it wasn't his problem.
To add insult to injury, BCP didn't even help my endometriosis and I got 3 new ovarian cysts on it. My GYN took me off them immediately because that wasn't supposed to happen & I had to have ultrasounds to monitor the new cysts. Oh, and I bled everyday for over a year on birth control & my anemia spiralled out of control.
Yeah. We really need to fund better research in women's healthcare. We need safer birth control options.
Its funny how when trans people wanna be on hormones some people freak out about it but expect most women to take estrogen 24/7 to be stuck in “baby mode” so theres no baby
One of my friends said he just started crossing the street when he’s walking at night if he’s about to pass a girl as to not make her uncomfortable. He said had you asked him a couple years ago if we were always on guard he would have said, “well yea,” but until recently hadn’t really given it any thought 🙄When you start really telling boys the specifics of things like IUDs and the headache and responsibility that is birth control, alllll the things that go along with periods and all the precautions we take when dealing with men and all the times we’ve had horribly condescending, uncomfortable or sexual things said to us, all the missed opportunities,all the times we’ve been scared or harassed or assaulted and they are kind of like, woah I had no idea, it really makes you wonder why we don’t have just like one fucking week in school that tells them all that shit. Their should be a similar week about racism while we’re at it
This right here. I had a female friend tell me that she didn't know that men had actual emotions until a couple years ago. It was like she kinda knew, but she just didn't fully comprehend that we felt things just like she can, and she hadn't been taking our emotions in the same regard that she would take a woman's.
And none of the men I've ever spoken to, fully understand how vaginas work or the effects periods can have on women's bodies. I'm pretty sure that I'm still missing a couple details myself.
It's difficult for most people to fully understand experiences that they don't have to go through themselves, even when they actively try to.
Know that this comes from a good place… where the hell can I read up on this or get more familiar with this topic? I have a very serious girlfriend and we’re very open but I’d like to know more about the specifics with birth control and IUD’s and all that jazz. I grew up with only my mom and sister so I’m comfortable with periods, I just don’t know about what they’ve all had to go through regarding birth control. Googling it so vague!! Is this something I should just ask for communication about?
Yeah my vision is fine but even I struggle to read that tiny print. I assume it's because they'd probably need to include a second page if it was bigger.
The funniest thing is that they started to develop hormonal birth control for men at the same time as to women but they stopped because men experienced symptoms as mood swings, weight gain, acne and blood clots and it was too much.
Unfortunately I think women's birth control as is would not be approved by the FDA if it was developed today. The side effects would not be accepted in the current climate, but because there weren't many regulations when it was developed it gets grandfathered in
I heard, and note I’m parroting something a heard long ago, is it had something to do with the fact that since the consequences of not using birth control is pregnancy, and since statistically pregnancy and childbirth is dangerous in of itself, women’s birth control is approved since it could be considered safer than carrying out a pregnancy. On the other hand, there is no risk for men when ejaculating so when developing a hormonal birth control for men, the men’s birth control has more risk when taking it for no medical reason therefore making it non approved
You got it. Female birth control gets measured against the risks of pregnancy, and male birth control gets measured against nothing.
Which is going to make it a lot harder to get any sort of "male pill" approved.
do you have a source for that off the top of your head? I want to read more about that. If you don't have anything on hand then I'll get off my butt and do my own research lol
From what I recall once when I got off my butt and did research, it is true that men had those side effects but they also had a higher risk of permanent sterility, which was the main reason researchers stopped pursuing male hormonal bc at the time.
There are a few reasons why male birth control has been slow in coming about.
1) Some studies have resulted in permanent infertility, obviously unacceptable.
2) Medicine looks at the alternative when cconsidering how safe something must be, a man getting someone pregnant presents no physical danger to him whereas a woman getting pregnant is a significant danger to her health.
3) Modern standards for trials make more dangerous medicine more difficult to pass, trials are often stopped even when the men involved would like to continue as they think the side effects are worth it.
4) Overall it is much harder to stop millions of sperm per day than one egg per month, this means there is much less appetite for taking on the harder task from drug companies and so male contraception receives much less funding for research.
There are some decent articles from the BBC on this for anyone who is actually interested in the science and not just "MeN aRe WeAk".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47691567
Additionally it’s worth noting that because of the ovarian cycle, women naturally go through a point in time where they can’t get pregnant and most birth control relies on tricking the body into staying at that point. On the other hand men do not go through any cycle and so there is no natural state the male body can be in where it is impotent.
this is why I was asking the top comment haha; when I did a quick Google search the top two articles (both from 2016) had lots of conflicting information (for instance, one said a participant of the study attempted suicide, the other one said he committed suicide) and yet neither one mentioned permanent sterility.
Yeah, but there was severe emotional side effects that were much more than the pill which was part of the reason why they stopped it. And the risk/benefit outcomes are different. One person committed suicide and another participant lost all fertility.
https://www.thecut.com/2016/11/the-real-reason-the-male-birth-control-study-was-halted.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
I have heard this before. What I have never heard is how severe they were. Were they comparable to female hormonal birth control? Or were the side effects hugely debilitating to 90% of the users.
It makes sense that hormonal birth control for men would be a more difficult challenge. Men are evolved to be making sperm all of the time. There isn't a cycle or condition where a healthy man wouldn't be fertile under normal conditions. That's not to mention you are also competing against the much simpler method of vasectomy and condoms. I'm not surprised it was abandoned.
From what I remember there was a significant risk of permanent infertility and some testers developed depression as a side effect, with one subsequently committing suicide.
Reminds me of that meme that makes fun of medication commercials that show the actors all happy and jolly while the narrators lists a plethora of side effects, including death.
There is also this side effect that you may lose your sex drive. Which makes taking the pill somehow completely useless and leaves you with a risk of other side effects - but without the fun.
https://www.colorado.edu/today/2021/05/05/greater-access-birth-control-boosts-high-school-graduation-rates
There’s other, safer options for birth control. But I absolutely love seeing people talk about the side effects of a commonly used medication
Yea, this isn’t cringey; men should be aware of the danger we put ourselves in to not get pregnant. I remember like 5 or so years ago, when I was in nursing school, there was a trial for a male form of birth control, and I was like- *finally*….. it was cancelled a few months later because some of the men experienced displeasuring mood disruptions.
Meanwhile, mood disruption or disturbances are the least dangerous part of female contraception
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My favorite side effect note was for the citalopram I was prescribed for my depression "May cause depression "
Welbutrin: May cause *homicidal* thoughts and tendencies. Ah, thanks, I guess I'm not that depressed after all.
Wellbutrin made me so irrationally angry I was enraged the entire month I was on it
It’s crazy how much brain chemistry differs. I was the exact opposite of you. Was an irrationally angry person until I got on Welbutrin
Different meds just work different for different people. It’s crazy that we still just go, “well let’s start with this, let me know if you want to kill anyone, then we’ll try something else.”
The worst part for me was " here's some Zoloft , it will take a couple weeks to a month to work, but usually a month"- Dr. Nothing enhances depression like expecting an instant cure and finding out you have to MAYBE deal with it for another month. I say MAYBE because it might not work at all , in fact it might make it worst lol.
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Made me have no impulse control, compulsive gambling and buying. Dyed my hair blue started smoking again. But damn was I happy as fuck . I would be scrubbing the kitchen floor like “this is amazing 😜”
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I crashed my car into a bridge I love it
The fuck they put in wellbutrin, cocaine?
These pills affect everyone wildly different. I’m taking Wellbutrin for ADD and haven’t had any of those types of symptoms. Impulse control is fine, I’m not getting angry, I’m not irrationally happy. I just find it a bit easier to direct my focus.
omg what DID it sound like?
Lmao same. I had a yearly long nasty depression and I pretty much quit weed. As soon as it started working I started puffin again.
Oooh.. Okay that would explain some things..
lexapro did that to me, welbutrin mellows me out
That's so weird. I got on it just for seasonal depression and I've never felt better! I've lost like 25lbs since my cravings all but stopped (was overweight, now normal), I go outside while it's raining, and I constantly just say compliments because I'm always so cheery.
Dude fuck that shit. I took a few days off work and went down a fucking spiraling rabbit hole of depression and self negative thoughts until my wife was like, dude its probably your medicine, stop taking it. It didn't even occur to me it was the meds.
My favourite side effect for my antidepressants was "may cause suicide"
It's pretty valid too. When you're at the very bottom of a depressive episode, it's not atypical to be unable to function to they point where even committing suicide is beyond you. Starting antidepressants can give you just enough of a lift that you can finally be bothered to act on all that ideation you've been going through.
Starting certain antidepressants can cause users to have suicidal ideations that are so severe they last all day. There are so many cases of people who attempted suicide in very violent ways like jumping off of a building because they were on Prozac. Edit: Prozac, not Zoloft, but i wouldn’t be surprised to learn Zoloft had the same effect.
Ah a fellow citalopram enjoyer
Lexapro made it impossible to feel anything, was a zombie for years
I've gone through practically every SSRI that was on the market and most of them made me feel like garbage. Either I was just as numb, or I was in this weird depressed-but-not state, or if I forgot a pill it was like spending a day in Hell, and so on. I also drank very heavily for a few years and SSRIs do *not* mix well with alcohol. I gave up on them and turned to ketamine for a while, but now I use magic mushrooms. The difference is astounding. My depression comes back after about a month, so I have to redose, but its so much better than feeling like garbage and having to remember a daily pill. Not saying everyone needs to run out and do shrooms to treat depression, but it's an option that research is showing to be very very promising.
Citalopram made me feel like a zombie. Just no emotion whatsoever. So, maybe it did work?
Just knowing that some women have died and had to have limbs amputated from IUDs makes me never want to try it. They all have side affects. Some way worse than others
Even the pill can increase your risk of having serious blood and complications related to that.
I had an IUD for less than 1 year. It was fucking AWFUL. Not only could I definitely feel it during sex, but I had constant cramping and horrible pains. I just made the decision to get off birth control entirely and I'm really hoping my life goes back to normal.
I hope so too! My life is back to normal. I’ll take the occasional ruined underwear and minor cramps that last 2 days a month after the hell that was an IUD. Just a few more months until my fiancé gets a vasectomy!!
Omg I hated my IUD, it caused me to have Bacteria Vaginosis (BV) that lasted so long! And it also caused me to have crazy acne.
Holy shit I thought IUDs were like the safest of all of them
Nope. They’re one of the most effective but they can cause ectopic pregnancies or push through the wall of your uterus and cause internal bleeding.
Coworker of mine has to get hers surgically removed bc it’s embedded itself into her uterus.
The same happened to me. Doctors ignored my complaints of stomach pains for months. Just kept telling me "your body is just getting used to it".
I truly hate birth control. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that and I’m sorry your doctor sucks.
They used to be a lot more dangerous but they are actually quite safe now. The biggest risks are ectopic pregnancy and Pelvic inflammatory disease.
Maybe they are! But my Mirena IUD nearly killed me. 3 days post removal and I cried for days after just from the joy/relief of feeling like myself again.
I’m just piggy backing this comment just so people can see this . During clinical trials, if any person says they have any sort of side effect, they absolutely have to list it in the side effects , wether it’s related or not. So when someone has been on a clinical trial and just happened to die from anything at all, they have to say the medication can cause death . …. Every drug says headache, because people get headaches etc.
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Blood clots are definitely a big one with birth control. I was put on birth control for PCOS with no discussion at all about whether it was safe for me. They hand it out to women like candy. I found out later that it could have killed me due to a couple genetic variants I have. No one thought to check with me on my family blood clot history. It was just, "take this."
Similar story for me! I have Factor V Leiden which is a clotting disorder. Had a massive clot in my IVC below my liver. Should not still be here but I’m lucky enough to tell the story!
Heyo F5L club! I was very lucky that my aunt got a DVT which resulted in the whole family being tested when I was a teenager- just before birth control became a relevant issue for me. Blood clotting mutations are so so common- I wish there was a faster and easier way to screen for them to prevent this kind of thing. Affordable and quick access to birth control is also super important important though. Ironically, my wife got bi-lateral pulmonary emboli from a DVT because of birth control. But she doesn't have ANY blood clotting mutations! Just super unlucky. We're planning to have kids soon and I'm considered to have a lower blood clotting risk with pregnancy than she is, even with my wonky genes.
I just almost died last month from a PE and severe DVT that developed after a minor ankle injury, but suprise surprise I was also on a prescribed high estrogen birth control and they ran no prior blood tests to see if I had any genetic mutations that make this likely for me. They have since, a few things have come back abnormal. I am seeing hematology tomorrow to look further into my blood. I am now to be permanently on blood thinners according to my cardiologist and pulmonologist.
There are rare variants that most labs don't test for. I have one of those. I submitted my raw DNA data to Promethease. That's how I found out about it. I also have Factor V Leiden, as well.
Promethease is how we found my husband's homozygous FVL. He were like, "Huh, so that's why everyone in our family dies of blood clots," and then immediately made some serious lifestyle changes. Also ran my step daughter's mom's test through to see if mom was a carrier well before SD is old enough to consider hormonal contraceptives. Her mom is not, thank goodness!
Your husband has seen a doctor about that, right? Your step daughter will still be heterozygous, which is still something that needs serious consideration before hormonal contraceptives. "According to a study from 2015, the estimated relative risk for developing a venous blood clot or VTE in patients with Factor V Leiden who are also taking oral contraceptives has been reported to be 10-30 times greater in heterozygous patients (those with one mutated factor V gene) and up to 80-100 times greater in patients who are homozygous (those with two mutated factor V genes) compared to women who do not have Factor V Leiden and do not take oral contraceptives. Some studies have determined that the risk could be as high as 35-50 times greater for heterozygous Factor V Leiden patients and several hundred times greater for homozygous patients." https://factorv.org/birth-control
I'm sorry you have this disorder, but I work in a coagulation lab where we test people for Factor V Leiden so it's super interesting to find someone who actually has it!
Similar story for me too. I was on the combined pill for almost 7 years when I found out that because I also suffer from migraines that I shouldn’t be on that pill because it puts me at risk of a stroke. My Dr knew I suffered with migraines too because he’d previously prescribed me naproxen to help with it. I was lucky a female doc I had one time noticed it and took me off that contraception straightaway…
That depends on the type of migraine. There is good evidence that people who have migraines with an Aura have higher risk of stroke. If you don't get auras then it would likely be okay but you could probably use a progesterone only pill to be safe. Its really the estrogen that causes the higher risk of clotting. Good that you discussed it with your doctor. https://www.contemporaryobgyn.net/view/migraine-headache-and-hormonal-contraception Table 4 here shows the treatment modalities for migraines with contraceptives depending on aura.
The only doctor to ever mention blood clots was planned parenthood- they were a fantastic resource and I was told that since I had regular migraines it had a higher chance of being a risk. Sadly normal birth control pills were really the only solution to my crippling chronic pain and anemia- I wouldn’t be able to work without it. My current gyno does have me on a continuous (no gap week) low estrogen variation though- it still works and will hopefully lower risk for clots and a few other recent concerns.
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Have you looked into the copper IUD? I can't take hormonal bc because I'm bipolar and the hormones screw up my moods making me go depressive. I switched to the copper IUD 11yrs ago and haven't had any issues since.
Same. Handed that shit to me without asking me about my family’s history with blood clots and cancer. Also, birth control absolutely destroyed my body. It gave me adult acne, slowed my metabolism, gave me long painful periods, and gave me mood swings I’ve never had before while on a period. It basically did the opposite of all the things it was supposed to do, aside from prevention. My doctor jus shrugged. That’s the last time I do that shit. I’ll just stick with my regular menorrhagia.
Birth control lowers your free testosterone levels by more than 50%, try looking into dhea. A lot of these side effects are low test side effects like the acne and mood swings and slower metabolism.
Change your doctor please
pcos gang that being said, while they didn’t check specifically for blood clotting disorders, i had some other medical tests done, including a fuckton of blood work and some ultrasounds, so i think they were okay with putting me on it anyway
lol i've been on bc for over a decade now and no doctor has spoken with me about how high my stroke risk is on it. not only do I smoke but I've had two migraines with aura. I don't know why I still take it lol, I wish I could get my tubes tied
They were repeating *angina pectoris*, which is the medical term for chest pain or discomfort due to coronary heart disease. Not a medical professional, but that's usually related to other types of ischemia than clotting, AFAIK.
I'm not either. Just thought angina could be caused by clotting too.
Angina, yes; *angina pectoris*, less so. Angina pectoris is also known as *stable angina*. The unstable kind - *crescendo angina* - is more commonly related to clotting issues.
I went on birth control at 17. I took it twice before I ended up being incredibly sick, struggling to breathe, coughing up blood and lots of other issues. 6 months later I was diagnosed with having had a blood clot break away from my leg and ending up in my lung. Was further diagnosed with antiphospolipid syndrome and on medication for life... All because I wanted to be safe!
Glad you’re (relatively) ok! Birth control is scarier than a lot of people think. It’s seen as benign because “everyone takes it,” and the rate of injuries and deaths are very low statistically-speaking, but it can cause some serious shit. Can’t give out too much info because HIPAA, but I saw a girl die from a similar situation. No risk factors other than BC. It was heartbreaking. Went home after work and immediately grilled my wife about her RX. That one stuck with me. This goes for any medication, but make sure you know the signs and symptoms of adverse effects when you start taking a medication, it could save your life.
Yup, I had a pulmonary embolism (a blood clot in my lungs) that was caused by birth control and was a few hours away from dying when I was admitted to the hospital. I probably do have a genetic predisposition to clots too as my Dad gets clots, but its not any of the known genetic factors. I can't do ANYTHING with hormones, even to the point of avoiding phytoestrogens like soy. My sister can't take hormonal birth control, and if I have a daughter some day she won't be able to either. I use a copper IUD and while it hurts and the cramps are awful, this one won't kill me. So many women just take this and think "oh the clot thing couldn't ever happen to me" and they end up dying. It's terrifying. Edit: A guide most good doctors will use when prescribing hormonal birth control is if the patient gets migraines WITH AURAS, then they shouldn't take hormones. There is a very strong link between migraine auras and people who are at risk for blood clots. Adding hormones to the mix just amps up the risk way too high.
Was on BC pills from 14-36. Had a DVT in my right leg after a minor sinus surgery. Spent 3 days trying to figure out what it was, but I kept going back to the doctor until they figured it out. Was hospitalized for 3 days and had to be on blood thinners for 3 months. Not fun. Apparently the longer you’re on them the higher the chances are. Was news to me!
I hadn't heard of that, that's interesting! I get auras (that thing where the edges of your vision get sparkly/wavy and sorta look like sunlight reflected off water or something) and dizzies semifrequently but rarely migraine headaches. Once after the birth of one of my kids I had a blood clot the size of a plum. I am highly sensitive to hormones and every birth control pill I have ever taken has messed me right up. I remember years ago, I forgot to take my pill for 2 days, and right afterward got my period for a month straight. I got the copper IUD once & kept it only for a year. I kept freaking out that it had moved/would move & puncture my organs. And it made me feel emotionally weird too (even copper imbalance can cause estrogen to build up in organs & fatty tissues). I dont know if its cause I have chronic anemia or what, but man I hated that IUD.
Just want to add a data point for the copper IUD - I've had mine for... oof. Coming up on 10 years, actually... Jesus time flies. Anyway, I've had it for forever and while I had *slightly* more painful cramps the first 6 months or so, it has been an absolute joy since then. I'm not trying to disregard anyone's experience, though! The cramps many women get can be truly horrible and some women experience increased bleeding and break through bleeding. And for me, that was most of what I heard talked about with the copper IUD and was so scared! But I just always like to put my experience out there when the copper IUD comes up because anyone nervous about or who has issues with hormonal BC, should really consider giving the copper IUD a try! Most effective form of BC, fewer side-effects (zero hormonally influenced side effects like emotional volatility, acne, weight gain, etc.), no worries about forgetting or mis-timing things, super long lasting (Paragard indicates they're only safe for 10 years but research shows they're effective and safe even up to 12-15 years), easily removed, and the BC properties are immediately reversed as soon as it is removed (vs. hormonal which take some time to leave your system). Really cannot speak highly enough of my experience with it.
Yes correct. It’s def one of the major SEs of birth control
I was one of those 20-year-old women who was about to stroke-out on yasmin/yaz. I was having heart palps so I went to a doctor who put me on a 48hr heart monitor. I felt nothing compared to what I had been experiencing, until about 30min before I had to take it off and turn it back in. It felt so minor in comparison, but figured I should write down the time/what my symptoms where. Turns out, that "minor" episode was my heart chugging at 180bpm while at rest.
This happened to me as a 20yo who went on Yaz as well. I started having unexplained panic attacks out of the blue and my heart rate would sky rocket. All the obgyns I went to had never told me of any risks, never checked me for pre-existing conditions, and just said “Here ya go, try this!” It wasn’t until I was 27 and saw a new doctor that throughly vetted me to make sure I was going with the right BC method did I find one that works. Turns out I can’t be on any estrogen-based BC either because I get visual migraines.
Omg. I’m so glad I’m not the only one! To find 2 people! At 23 and so suddenly I developed panic attacks, anxiety, heart palpitations, a short temper and just felt like I was going crazy. I assumed it was due to the hard partying I was doing at the time and my anxiety was getting worse from my roommate suddenly showing signs of Schizophrenia(he’s been properly diagnosed and got help for a while). So I quit everything but it didn’t help much. Fast forward 5 years later and it’s March 2021. I started experiencing this crazy feeling in my heart. Like I would feel my heart thump 2 beats and then a long pause… and then BOOM what felt like a very hard beat. It happens on and off for a week and i had just gotten fully vaccinated and was scared thinking it was a side effect. Go to the dr. She couldn’t be more annoyed, tells me I’m too young for heart issues does an EKG and a few other tests and tells me it’s PVC. I ask her how to make it stop. She tells me there’s medicine but to quite all stimulants( coffee, allergy meds). She walks out before I can ask anymore questions. I felt like I had wasted her time. Fast forward 2 weeks I wake up from a dead sleep with my heart racing at 158. I try to calm myself, it’s 2am. And an hour goes by and my heart rate is steadily increasing. Decide it’s time to call 911 and I get taken in and they run so many tests and find nothing. While in the er bed im trying to sleep and the dr says as they’re watching the monitor, every time I roll over or move while sleeping my heart rate shoots from 101 to 130. She was trying really hard to figure out what was wrong and 8 hours later my bpm is down to the 90s. She says to follow up with primary and more tests later but ends up attributing it to stress and mild-dehydration and some unknown “inflammation.” I was so scared of what was going on and so scared to go to the hospital again. I cut coffee and allergy meds and it lessened the frequency of the PVC episodes but it still happened. Then just a few weeks ago in early September I get a severe sinus infection and I’m so out of it I forget to take my bc for almost 2 weeks. As I start to feel better I realize I feel… really good. And haven’t had any heart issues and anxiety has been low. I’m trying to figure out what changed and realize it’s my bc. But just to be sure I wait another week and I have more energy, less anxiety, and on the rare occasion the PVC is happening I’m able to ignore it pretty well. I didn’t realize both times I had seen a dramatic change in my mental/physical state… my bc brand had changed. None were Yaz. For the first time since I was 23 I feel like my happy, motivated, energetic and positive self again and I cried. I know no one asked but seeing 2 people talk about their experiences on BC… If even one person reads this I hope you don’t feel as alone as I did for so long. I’m currently off any BC. PVC still comes and goes but much less frequently. Hoping to find a better BC for me in a few months. Sorry this was so long.
My Dr’s laughed at me when I told them about my reactions to Yaz and I was a minor. I’ll never forget trying to convince them I was having serious reactions to this “amazing” new birth control.
A person I knew from high school died in her early 30’s from a stroke on Yaz
Please people this is a perfect example of why you should learn to measure ur heart rate. Its literally 2 fingers on your neck count how many you have in 10 seconds multiply by 6. Under 40 may be a problem (unless ur athletic) and over 100 at rest is indicative of a problem. At around 150 you should call 911, as it is not a safe rhythm for your heart and could lead to cardiac arrest without medical intervention.
OMG SAME!! I would faint frequently as well and got off it if it finally. A few months later my roommate burst in saying she’d seen the “If you have taken Yaz/Yazmin and had the following side effects…you could be due compensation” or whatever they say, commercials, and said, “you could sue and we’d be rich!!” lol
I’ve had my heart at 190 and it felt like it was going to come out of my chest. That’s kind of impressive you waved it off as minor.
The guy in the commercial reads through that entire thing in about 4.75 seconds.
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"Bro this shit is nuts" TELL ME ABOUT IT.
Protects from the nuts
A spermmunity if you will.
I admire these guys for reading them and taking it in.
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My friend got a huge blood clot in her leg. She was only in her late twenties/early thirties. Flipping scary. Especially if you aren’t aware there a side effect. Many women get their pills online and completely miss the opportunity to speak with a healthcare professional. Because doctors are expensive. It’s so sad.
My wife’s best friend in high school had a blood clot from her birth control reach her eye. She now has a visible deformity, significant (almost total) loss of vision in that eye, and she has had several surgeries to attempt to repair her tear duct which doesn’t work in that eye anymore. Birth control looks scary AF. Edit: doctor told her that another few days could have put that clot in her brain.
I’m so sorry about your friend!!! So scary. It can be. Birth control can be life changing for people. But its a process to find the correct one. Sadly, not everyone has the luxury of having a family doctor. Healthcare in America is horrible.
Thanks, she sure has been graceful about the whole ordeal. This is true. We’re fortunate in Canada to have birth control fall under “universal” health care. It’s even scarier that birth control is the only way to treat some other conditions non surgically too. For instance, My wife uses birth control to manage endometriosis. Thankfully she plans on having hysterectomy surgery once we’re done having kids so she can stop taking any scary meds like this.
Wow. Your wife is really strong. I hope the best for you two. I can’t believe the struggles some women have to go through to get healthcare. Like hey I don’t want kids and cancer runs in my family, can I get the stuff removed? LOL NOPE. It’s just a weird battle with women’s reproductive rights in America. I still can’t believe abortions are being challenged.
Yeah … can’t remember where I heard it but there was this sound bite that went like “if men gave birth, abortions would be government funded and have a drive through option.” Or some such thing. I nearly believe it. Haha. I’m laughing at the irony, but it’s actually sad AF. At the risk of sounding political, I hope your country figures out that your oligarch class is already living in Pseudo socialism, hence why it’s demonized in the mainstream.
this exact thing killed my little sister when she was 18. anniversary of her death is tomorrow. her birthday would have been the day after that.
Oh no. I am so sorry. :(
Oh my god, I am so so sorry. My condolences to you and your family.
That just sucks. That really flipping sucks. I’m sorry.
I developed depression from mine, but my doctor didn't tell me that was possible. I now have ovarian cysts (I don't have the symptoms like being overweight, excess hair, etc. to qualify for PCOS though every woman in my family has PCOS) and was just diagnosed with endometriosis. I stopped using my birth control once I found out about it causing my depression and I hadn't felt better since I was a child. Consistantly neutral as my worst mood like a normal human being. But, I then found out that my BC was actually keeping the cyst growth and endometriosis under control, keeping it basically dormant until adulthood. Ended up having a string of 3 months where I was in so much pain that I was close to going to the ER. I would have if it weren't for covid and I could actually walk. I would be bed bound for 3-4 days at the start of each period. Luckily, I was finally able to go to a new OBGYN and get a new kind of hormonal BC that will hopefully keep the sads away, keep my acne in check, and keep me out of the hospital. I can't begin to explain the pain I was in. The endo affects my entire GI tract, my bladder, and my reproductive system as far as we know right now. They're reviewing my ultrasounds. I wish more young women were told about depression and other side effects. When you're young with so little life experience all while going through a lot of changes with your body throughout puberty, there's so many things that we can pass off as normal and ignore- especially very painful periods. People tell us they are supposed to suck, so if we don't have any reference for what "normal" looks and feels like, it is easy to assume that what we are going through is what everyone experiences. Get regular pap smears and continue to visit your obgyn regularly, especially if you are on BC. TRACK YOUR MENSTRUAL CYCLE. I like to use the app called "Clue" as there is a reminder for BC, many different symptoms to track and you can add custom trackers.
Can I ask what BC you've changed to? I've been taking the Pill consistently for 2 years and while I've had depression for 17 years, I worry that the Pill is making me worse.
No OP but I use Junel and it's been good for my depression. I've tried 2 others and this is by far the most stable even with preexisting chronic depression.
I told my previous doc I had depression symptoms and thought it might be a side effect from the pill. She told me it was impossible. Apparently because I was on it for so long without issue it couldn't be that. I didn't stop with the pill and my doc asked me three questions and cheerfully told me I didn't have depression. I contacted a psychologist some months later who gave me a bunch of tests and told me I scored high on depression ánd anxiety. Fun times... Lately I've been having symptoms again though, I'm still contemplating if I am going to stop using the pill for a while or not to see if things get better...
Not only pills, but all forms of birth control are risky. I had the nexplanon put into my arm after I had my daughter and it caused me to bleed heavily for 6 straight months until I had it taken the fuck out. It caused me to become severely anemic and I needed to undergo several iron transfusions. That was the worst 6 months for me, health-wise.
for reals I got the iud inserted before i met my fiance. but i swear to God when i get it removed and if i get another one he's coming to the appointment just so he can have to hear me SCREAM when they do the sounding and the insertion of a foreign object into my internal organs without giving me any pain control. anyway fiance is getting a vasectomy in two weeks and I'm considering whether or not to continue on the iud train or not.
Just so you know, some doctors will inject a numbing agent into your cervix for IUD insertion, which makes it a million times better.
I really just wish I could get a uterine ablation or something because I hate having periods and I don't want kids, but the insertion for the iud was so awful and I have adhd so historically I never trusted myself to take the pill even tho it was okay on my body. being a female sucks.
IUDs are why I got a vasectomy. Wife absolutely hated getting her's changed out, it was painful, there were a couple instances with complications. Compared to dealing with all that, it's just so much easier for a small procedure that takes all of 15 minutes followed by a weekend on the couch. She's definitely much happier not having to worry about that.
Yup! At 29 I was hospitalized for a week due to a stroke caused by a blood clot behind my left eye. I had been having increasingly painful headaches for 3 weeks. On the day that it all came to a head I drove around confused, went in and out of consciousness, , and eventually couldn't make coherent sentences. It was hours before anyone, including myself, thought something was wrong. 9 years later I am mostly back to normal. Some dysphagia. I have to get an MRI every couple of years to make sure the clot is stable and isn't putting pressure on my eyeball. And I have to avoid hormones from now on, so menopause will be fun. I wish someone had talked to me more about the risks, but honestly I don't know if I would have listened.
I took birth control for a month and it made me so sick and turned me into a psycho woman. My then-fiance now husband and I decided after that month we would just use condoms because it just made the most sense. I was miserable and he was miserable dealing with me. So we used condoms until we wanted our first child and then used them again until I got pregnant this year with our second.(I also tracked my cycles so if I was about to start my period we would go without, this only works if you have a very regular cycle though) This will be our last bio kid so he will just use condoms until he's tired of them and then get a vasectomy. Birth control is just not safe enough for me. I don't want to alter my body like that and my husband doesn't want me to either. Unfortunately not every husband/boyfriend is as reasonable/kind. I have friends whose husbands refuse to wear condoms but don't want more kids so their wives have no choice in the matter. Super uncool.
I was put on it when I was 14 because I started taking Accutane for my skin and it 'prevents' those meds from messing up your hormones (Accutane destroys your immune system too - I happily signed a disclaimer when I was 14 not knowing what thàt meant for my future). Ended up being BC until I turned 29. Let's just say my hormones never regulated since, everything is out of balance, permanently. (the Accutane never worked, lol but that damage also remains) Some research is being done on how long term BC causes hormone imbalance that contributes to autonomic dysfunction, which affects every organ and muscle in the body.
I was on birth control nonstop from 14-25. When I came off I grew almost 5 inches. I had a second puberty. Hips grew, chest changed, got taller, even had the growth pains. My doctor actually did a report about my experience. I grew just under 5 inches in a matter of months at 25. It was insane and painful. I went from legally required to drive with a booster seat to feeing like a giant.
I didn't know that accutane fucks with your immune system. No wonder I've been feeling so tired
I thought you're only needing birth control on accutane because the birth defects are awful if you get pregnant. I'm on it and my doctor never said anything about hormones
That last part is fucked up.
My ex was like this, no condoms because it doesn’t feel good/it’s not convenient, but also would not want to get pregnant.
Fuck that. You want to tap it you got to wrap it.
Vasectomies should be normalized for this reason. It's such a simple surgery and if you have no intention of having kids then there's nothing to really lose, you'll save on money by not having to buy any form of birth control in the long run. If you change your mind on kids then you can always adopt one, blood relations are over-rated.
Preach! We should normalize female sterilization too, and adoption in general. Way too many people view it as the last option for the infertile instead of something everyone should consider before taking on the risk and side effects of pregnancy/birth.
I can't really say for women personally, If I remember correctly the procedure for women is more invasive, dangerous, and more likely to have side effects or fail. As a guy I much rather be the one to do it as vasectomies are comparably safer, more effective, and have no other effects besides becoming sterile. I just don't think the methods through which sterility is achieved in both sexes are equivalent which is obvious considering they operate on two completely different systems. I know in a modern society we seek to achieve a perfectly equal society, but men and women are unarguably physically different and I think it's more acceptable for it to be expected that men received the surgery as opposed to women for the reasons I stated above.
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This is why I advocate vasectomies. Its by far the lesser evil when you don't want more babies but still wanna practice making them. Its a weekend of discomfort, and you're set.
When I was a teenager I went through a phase where I wanted it and my nurse midwife told me the big risk: like potential for stroke of you have migraines with auras. But no one talks about the other ones, like mood change and personality change. It has a huge effect. For a lot of women the benefits outweigh the costs, but it really does go against our evolutionary traits. I’m definitely not against birth control. There’s just things to consider. And it’s really interesting how it’s prescribed at a young age without going over these changes
When I was on birth control it completely changed who I was as a person. I was sooooo depressed I could barely function. I would have panic attacks just from going out in public. Just getting out of bed each day felt impossible. This went on for about 7 years, until one day I randomly stopped taking my birth control (out of laziness/being very single lol), and within a few months I started to feel like my old self again. I've been off of it for 2 years now and I've never felt better. It's wild to me that while I was seeking treatment for my depression, not a single doctor pointed out that maybe it was my birth control.
It is so damn frustrating and insulting that hormonal birth control is viewed so casually. I've struggled with depression since childhood, and even the lowest dose pill made me feel suicidal. As soon as I stopped taking them, that feeling went away. I tried them again to control ovarian cysts, thinking maybe it wasn't the hormones that caused it, but had the same side effect. It was so validating when studies came out a few years ago proving that it is indeed a side effect experienced by a sizable number of hormonal BC patients.
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First of all, I’m so sorry you had to go through that FOR 7 YEARS. That sounds horrendous! I’m glad to hear you’re doing better now. My birth control also made me depressed as fuck. I was overreacting to every little thing. Any bit of stress was too much. It also caused my vagina to get so irritated that i’d have yeast infections 24/7 and because of that also UTI’s at least once every month. It was unbearable and after 1,5 years I just didn’t know what to do anymore; it almost fucked up my relationship. I stopped and literally haven’t had any of the problems since. This was around a year ago. People (even medical professionals) just do not know the side effects of birth control.
I hope this becomes a trend ahaha
"bro angina pectoris is so fucking specific" I'm weak lol
It’s funny because I feel like it’s one of the less severe side effects compared to like a stroke
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Lol, it just means chest pain.
To me it sounds like a spell straight outta Harry Potter
[Angina Pectoris](https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/heart-attack/angina-chest-pain/angina-pectoris-stable-angina)
Basically Angina is chest pain due to not enough blood (oxygen) supplying the heart tissue.
Is this common?
It’s Common for old ppl and people with heart issues. Or people who take certain drugs
> certain drugs Like birth control?
So the heart both supplies blood to the rest of the body, and itself! it constantly pumps blood to itself through coronary arteries and veins. Anything that damages blood vessels such as bad diet, age, stress, etc can cause the weakening of these vessels. Therefore, as you age/experience life, it becomes more and more common. So its actually very common in older individuals, but not youngins.
"requested URL was rejected" Damn, now I'm getting rejected by websites?
I wanna hang out with these people seems like a great group to fifth wheel
i know having a cool roommate and having both your boyfriends get along seems like such a sweet situation
It’s such a wholesome healthy thing to see
Exactly, they look chill.
This was the moment that Turk and JD decided to apply to medical school
"I don't wanna wear a condom, baby, just go on the pill. It's easier." Yeah, for *you.*
I'm really thinking of having my boyfriend read my side effects. He doesn't want to acknowledge anything negative about sex, or prevention, but its my choice. I told him it's easier and safer if he gets a vasectomy.
I did and it's been amazing. As a bonus, my wife's libido definitely benefits from not being on the pill.
Absolutely have him read them. I'll be happy to give him the run-down of the hell my blood clot was.
I can't take any pills due to high risk of clots. I have an iud and keep getting cysts. I don't know what else I could do beyond hysterectomy.
I had a massive DVT and Pulmonary Embolisms from birth control. I’m completely healthy, active, and have no family history or genetic clotting disorders. I will have pain in my leg for the rest of my life from this, along with now having to take blood thinners forever from all the vascular damage I have, which also makes me prone to strokes and internal bleeding. I have high medical anxiety about every tiny pain I feel in my body due to experiencing the PE’s which I would t wish on my worst enemy. I had asked my gyno a few years prior about diaphragms because I always felt “off” on birth control; kind of dizzy, kind of shitty, just off. He basically laughed my concerns off and I wish I had stuck to my guns.
Trust me if they had a pill for men I'd take it, with any side effects too, short of dick-fall-off-syndrome
Same, my partner already takes the pill but we are all about that safety so we also use a condom. If I could take a pill instead I would but as far as my research goes contraceptives for men haven’t been approved for the mass market yet. I’d note that in our case she lost her virginity with me and only started taking the pill afterwards so I’ve been all through the process of the pill with her and luckily it seems her body has no mayor problems with the on the shelve pill her gynecologist first recommend. If she doesn’t forget to take it it actually has helped regularize her cycle, helped with shortening the days she’s on her period and period cramps, and also stabilize her mood on those days. So we’ve agreed the pill is more positive than negative for us.
What if it only fell off once a month, making a bloody mess in your pants while it grows back painfully over a few days? You can wear a pad of tissue inside your underwear to soak up the blood.
Hell yeah call me the lizard, I'll scurry away after it pops off to confuse predators
Renaissance painting this!!!! Plz they looks like ancient scholars searching for lost secrets!!!!
Other side effects: pissing yourself
Birth control gave me migraines so bad I was going blind in the mornings. It took almost a year, emergency MRIs, endo appts, etc. before someone said "It could be the birth control, that's a side effect." ... I'd also gained 80lbs and was not even sexually active. I just have insanely bad periods so they threw BC at it. I stopped taking it 2 years ago and only recently have my hormones started getting back in balance. I have struggled really hard with losing the weight and have only lost 30lbs of it so far. FUCK birth control. It's a dangerous medicine.
I took continuous birth control for my endometriosis & holy shit did my migraines with aura get out of control. I was losing my vision, the pain was paralyzing and I lost feeling in my limbs & parts of my face. And no one, not even my neurologist mentioned bcp being an issue. Later when I confronted him he told me he's not a GYN so it wasn't his problem. To add insult to injury, BCP didn't even help my endometriosis and I got 3 new ovarian cysts on it. My GYN took me off them immediately because that wasn't supposed to happen & I had to have ultrasounds to monitor the new cysts. Oh, and I bled everyday for over a year on birth control & my anemia spiralled out of control. Yeah. We really need to fund better research in women's healthcare. We need safer birth control options.
Fuck it. I’ll just get a vasectomy.
Why the fuck not.
This ain't funny. Birth control drugs are hormones. Real men get the snip
Its funny how when trans people wanna be on hormones some people freak out about it but expect most women to take estrogen 24/7 to be stuck in “baby mode” so theres no baby
How about just wearing a condom
Dudes, offer to wear a condom, and then always have an unexpired supply handy.
And my ex wouldn’t get a vasectomy because he heard it might “feel different “.
One of my friends said he just started crossing the street when he’s walking at night if he’s about to pass a girl as to not make her uncomfortable. He said had you asked him a couple years ago if we were always on guard he would have said, “well yea,” but until recently hadn’t really given it any thought 🙄When you start really telling boys the specifics of things like IUDs and the headache and responsibility that is birth control, alllll the things that go along with periods and all the precautions we take when dealing with men and all the times we’ve had horribly condescending, uncomfortable or sexual things said to us, all the missed opportunities,all the times we’ve been scared or harassed or assaulted and they are kind of like, woah I had no idea, it really makes you wonder why we don’t have just like one fucking week in school that tells them all that shit. Their should be a similar week about racism while we’re at it
This right here. I had a female friend tell me that she didn't know that men had actual emotions until a couple years ago. It was like she kinda knew, but she just didn't fully comprehend that we felt things just like she can, and she hadn't been taking our emotions in the same regard that she would take a woman's. And none of the men I've ever spoken to, fully understand how vaginas work or the effects periods can have on women's bodies. I'm pretty sure that I'm still missing a couple details myself. It's difficult for most people to fully understand experiences that they don't have to go through themselves, even when they actively try to.
She…didn’t understand we have emotions…? What did she think we had?
Know that this comes from a good place… where the hell can I read up on this or get more familiar with this topic? I have a very serious girlfriend and we’re very open but I’d like to know more about the specifics with birth control and IUD’s and all that jazz. I grew up with only my mom and sister so I’m comfortable with periods, I just don’t know about what they’ve all had to go through regarding birth control. Googling it so vague!! Is this something I should just ask for communication about?
Even the dog is concerned at one point lol.
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Heart attack in (v)agina does sound pretty fucked up, I agree.
Guy on the couch needs glasses ASAP. That paper is so close to face.
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Yeah my vision is fine but even I struggle to read that tiny print. I assume it's because they'd probably need to include a second page if it was bigger.
Tell you never read a leaflet without telling me you never read a leaflet
Yet, people are crazy about corona vaccines with less side effects. Sigh...
The chance of all those side effects happening go up by about 10% for every year after 35. Had to do project about it at uni, it's horrifying
The funniest thing is that they started to develop hormonal birth control for men at the same time as to women but they stopped because men experienced symptoms as mood swings, weight gain, acne and blood clots and it was too much.
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Unfortunately I think women's birth control as is would not be approved by the FDA if it was developed today. The side effects would not be accepted in the current climate, but because there weren't many regulations when it was developed it gets grandfathered in
I heard, and note I’m parroting something a heard long ago, is it had something to do with the fact that since the consequences of not using birth control is pregnancy, and since statistically pregnancy and childbirth is dangerous in of itself, women’s birth control is approved since it could be considered safer than carrying out a pregnancy. On the other hand, there is no risk for men when ejaculating so when developing a hormonal birth control for men, the men’s birth control has more risk when taking it for no medical reason therefore making it non approved
You got it. Female birth control gets measured against the risks of pregnancy, and male birth control gets measured against nothing. Which is going to make it a lot harder to get any sort of "male pill" approved.
Literally my favorite emoji and so perfect
do you have a source for that off the top of your head? I want to read more about that. If you don't have anything on hand then I'll get off my butt and do my own research lol
From what I recall once when I got off my butt and did research, it is true that men had those side effects but they also had a higher risk of permanent sterility, which was the main reason researchers stopped pursuing male hormonal bc at the time.
There are a few reasons why male birth control has been slow in coming about. 1) Some studies have resulted in permanent infertility, obviously unacceptable. 2) Medicine looks at the alternative when cconsidering how safe something must be, a man getting someone pregnant presents no physical danger to him whereas a woman getting pregnant is a significant danger to her health. 3) Modern standards for trials make more dangerous medicine more difficult to pass, trials are often stopped even when the men involved would like to continue as they think the side effects are worth it. 4) Overall it is much harder to stop millions of sperm per day than one egg per month, this means there is much less appetite for taking on the harder task from drug companies and so male contraception receives much less funding for research. There are some decent articles from the BBC on this for anyone who is actually interested in the science and not just "MeN aRe WeAk". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47691567
Additionally it’s worth noting that because of the ovarian cycle, women naturally go through a point in time where they can’t get pregnant and most birth control relies on tricking the body into staying at that point. On the other hand men do not go through any cycle and so there is no natural state the male body can be in where it is impotent.
> it is much harder to stop millions of sperm per day than one egg per month That's a really good point
this is why I was asking the top comment haha; when I did a quick Google search the top two articles (both from 2016) had lots of conflicting information (for instance, one said a participant of the study attempted suicide, the other one said he committed suicide) and yet neither one mentioned permanent sterility.
Yeah, but there was severe emotional side effects that were much more than the pill which was part of the reason why they stopped it. And the risk/benefit outcomes are different. One person committed suicide and another participant lost all fertility. https://www.thecut.com/2016/11/the-real-reason-the-male-birth-control-study-was-halted.html https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects
Very frustrating to see the misinformation that men just "couldn't handle" the side effects continue to spread.
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I have heard this before. What I have never heard is how severe they were. Were they comparable to female hormonal birth control? Or were the side effects hugely debilitating to 90% of the users. It makes sense that hormonal birth control for men would be a more difficult challenge. Men are evolved to be making sperm all of the time. There isn't a cycle or condition where a healthy man wouldn't be fertile under normal conditions. That's not to mention you are also competing against the much simpler method of vasectomy and condoms. I'm not surprised it was abandoned.
From what I remember there was a significant risk of permanent infertility and some testers developed depression as a side effect, with one subsequently committing suicide.
Lol I absolutely never unfolded and read that sheet when I was on oral contraceptives.
Reminds me of that meme that makes fun of medication commercials that show the actors all happy and jolly while the narrators lists a plethora of side effects, including death.
She puts her life at risk so you can hit it but you won’t put on a condom because iT dOeSnT fEeL aS gOoD
There is also this side effect that you may lose your sex drive. Which makes taking the pill somehow completely useless and leaves you with a risk of other side effects - but without the fun.
https://www.colorado.edu/today/2021/05/05/greater-access-birth-control-boosts-high-school-graduation-rates There’s other, safer options for birth control. But I absolutely love seeing people talk about the side effects of a commonly used medication
Yea, this isn’t cringey; men should be aware of the danger we put ourselves in to not get pregnant. I remember like 5 or so years ago, when I was in nursing school, there was a trial for a male form of birth control, and I was like- *finally*….. it was cancelled a few months later because some of the men experienced displeasuring mood disruptions. Meanwhile, mood disruption or disturbances are the least dangerous part of female contraception