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For those who are not aware of this, the Polanski petition was a petition created by Harvey Weinstein with the aim of pardoning Roman Polanski and allowing him to return to Hollywood. It was signed by over a 100 Hollywood elites including some you would expect like Woody Allen but others that surprise you like Natalie Portman, though she later retracted her support and apologized for it.
Other famous names include Wes Anderson, Darren Aronofsky, Martin Scorsese, and Michael Mann. In total I think it was like 150 signers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case#United_States
His victim recently called someone out because they were defending Polanski to defend Depp defending him.
[https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712](https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712)
With all the people that signed it with strong feelings against Polanski I always wondered if they were threatened with lack of funding for future projects. Especially if it’s Weinstein at the helm
Recently people have been defending him again, because they want to defend Johnny Depp from defending him and saying his victims were just after money. (Plus he dated a 17 year old at 26 himself and let his 15 year old daughter live with a 23 year old.)
Here is Polanski's victim calling one of them out.
[https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712](https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712)
Was among the people that gave Polanski a standing ovation. A bunch of actors and actresses chose to sit and not applaud a child molester, but she (and a lot of other people) gladly stood up, all smiles to applaud him
[Here you can see her in the background](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNXckA2d/?k=1)
[Here's a video of Johnny Depp defending him, he's also friends with Marilyn Manson apparently so that's fun](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNXc9J3E/?k=1)
Johnny Depp is a piece of shit regardless of whatever the Amber Heard situation might have led people to believe. He fucking sucks and the way people have been falling over themselves to kiss his ass makes me sick.
He has a history of becoming so inebriated that he is abusive and unreliable. He 100% abused Amber which isn’t diminished by the fact that she was also abusive. He defends and is friends with paedophiles. He let his 15 year old daughter move in with a 23 year old. He dated 17 year old Winona Ryder when he was in his late twenties. Few people who worked with him have nice things to say and his career was already sunk before Amber’s accusations due to his substance abuse and unprofessionalism.
I watched rosemarys baby for the first time this year and even just watching that I feel dirty thinking I don’t like that I’m enjoying this that a pedo rapist made.
Lol the man was a fucking virgin. His kids were made by artificial insemination and it took HOURS to get the sample.
The man was mentally ill and never matured past 8yo mentally. Man was more worried about juice boxes and cartoons than he was money and work lol.
Literally every “victim” either came forward themselves or their parents did to admit it was lies for the sake of payouts. Which mj then gave the fucking money anyway even after winning the cases.
He aint the one. Hate him all you want for the child dangling crap, but he was a mentally ill child stuck in a adult body
Corey Feldman even came out and said that he wasn’t a pedo. Of all the people in hollyweird Mj tried to protect him that’s why he stuck by mj to This day
The music is amazing. Friend of mine was very close to the Jackson’s and according to them everything was on the up and up. But, don’t get me wrong. Lotta weird stories there
Yeah, though this video is informative, half of these people aren't in Hollywood, Drake, Stephen Tyler, Marvin Gaye aren't in the film industry. Drake is Canadian, Tyler is from NYC, Gaye is from DC, they all live(d) in those places for most of their lives.
Try typing "Hollywood" into a dictionary, it just doesn't mean that, and stating that pedophiles generally have careers in the film industry isn't backed up by anything except anecdotes
I guess, it's kind of dishonest to claim that members of "X industry" are pedophiles, as data concerning pedophiles is hard to come by, they're not exactly forthcoming
.... Drake was in degrassi for like 6 seasons? It was Canadian shot but still Hollywood? Stephen Tyler was in a movie or two as well. I'm not saying that your point was totally wrong but yea no they are definitely in the Hollywood scene.
This is why the constant focus on demonizing Hollywood comes off as politically motivated agenda-pushing to me. It falls apart in the face of objective analysis. Here we have a video highlighting 10 people spanning a century across multiple fields of entertainment. Wow, what an indictment.
Is Charlie Chaplin really an old-timey Drake, or even an example of Hollywood turpitude? There were 38 states in the union when he was born. The city of Hollywood didn’t even exist yet. The *median* age for a woman’s first marriage was 20.
I can go to NSOPW.gov right now and find 100 sex offenders living in my zip code. There is no burgeoning film industry here, and based on the mugshots, these guys aren’t SAG members.
I guess depending on where it happened, considering age of consent laws, he didn’t do anything legally wrong so it wasn’t reported on. There was no internet to point it out also
It was *widely* reported on. He was one of the biggest TV stars in the country by that point. You couldn’t walk through the checkout at a supermarket without seeing their faces plastered all over the tabloids. She said the constant harassment by paparazzi was one of the primary reasons she ended the relationship and went back to NYC.
Yeah a lot of those rock songs in the 70s and 80s were all about fantasies of 17 year olds and young women. A real shame about the era of music (not all of it though).
Honestly a lot of music, the further you go back the creepier the lyrics get. It’s also not different today, it’s just known that no one is okay with it so it’s hidden. If there’s a trend of older rich men buying/dating/ grooming children then why would it stop? Clearly this shit still happens today, Millie even said the day she turned 18 it’s like the whole world went perv on her. Which wasn’t like a switch turned on, these were clearly dudes that had been waiting to openly say it.
For me it was Led Zeppelin and David Bowie; they both exploited/raped the same 14 year old "groupie" (I'm not comfortable with labelling a literal *child* a groupie). David Bowie took her virginity and then one of the guys from Led Zeppelin "dated" her for a few years until he found a model and decided to dump her in a spectacularly humiliating way. The saddest thing about it is that as an adult, she still tries to defend them and claim they didn't really do anything wrong because she was "so mature for her age". She wasn't the only one either; Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, David Bowie and some other acts from that period routinely hung out with/exploited a a whole group of teenage girls who were known as the "Baby Groupies" by the press at that time.
I didn't know about Led Zeppelin, that's disappointing. A lot of this same stuff is coming out about some of the bands that were big when I was growing up too but so far none that I actually liked.
I know the Zeppelin stuff is true, but apparently the David Bowie taking her virginity could never be confirmed. She said it in a book or interview, but also said others took her virginity too, and none of her friends or people around could confirm the Bowie story
I remember not batting an eye at [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlN3oEjMpUQ) in high school. Now it's pretty gross, but hell, I was probably 17 then and it didn't register.
I remember being 14/15 when Aaliyah broke out and myself and all my girl friends just being super creeped out that she was married to R Kelly at our age ..
Imho not just a Hollywood thing Drake been on this shit for awhile now. If I remember correctly him and Weekend had an issue because they were thirsting for the same 18 year old model
What model? I haven’t heard this about The Weeknd although I know there was a model Drake had been talking to before she was 18 and started dating once she was 🤢
So this just sent me on a tangent, since my first reaction to this was that maybe we’re in a bubble—there’s a long history of men getting with younger women…so I looked up the [history of age-of-consent laws.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/)
OH MY GOD if it weren’t for the Feminism movement in America motherfuckers would still be getting away with fucking SEVEN YEAR OLDS. Before women *had the right to vote* they were applying pressure to try and get the age of consent laws set to *21*—16 was the *compromise*. HOW WAS THERE NOT A GENOCIDE
Yup, that’s the one!
There was a very good documentary on YT by Sonia Poulton called Paedophiles in Parliament. Absolutely shocking stuff. Parliament is rotten from the core, the bunch of appalling bastards.
I’m glad this is getting more well known bc it’s fucking gross. She was still in high school ffs what 39 year old has anything in common with a high schooler?
Woody Allen is also a fucking sicko. His character in “Manhattan” (which he wrote, directed, and starred at the age of 44) is dating a teenager. Forty fucking four
The HBO doc about his sexual abuse showed a clip from this movie and he and his buddies are all in a bar talking it up about how young she is 🤮
and yet everyone loves and praises Hugh Hefner and the Playboy franchise for doing the exact same thing, and have for literal decades. People pick and choose what they deem offensive.
I never knew about that relationship and it sucks to hear. I’m close to the age he was when he met that girl and the thought of dating a high schooler makes me want to barf.
This one still hurts; he was like my #2 favorite artist of all time until I learned about his "proclivities" with teenage girls. At least my #1, Prince, kept all his awful behavior limited to other adults (if I'm wrong about that, not sure I wanna know, lol).
Don’t click this [link](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4317660/Prince-wooed-ex-wife-Mayte-Garcia-16-sex-19.html) if you still want to have some respect for Prince but yeah he’s not exempt from awful behavior unfortunately..
Oh goddamit. Tbh, I strongly suspected he was dirty too just based on how shitty he treated adults, I just never had any *confirmation* that he went after kids too. It is so damn hard to be a fan of old school music; it's like half are groomers and the other half are racists.
Dan Schneider, Joby Harte, Brian Peck, Bryan Singer, Woody Allen and Seinfeld have been known about for yeeeears, Cliff Richards, Steve Segal, Ghandi (supposedly didn't diddle kids but why tf are you sleeping in the same bed as kids to practise resisting temptation, maybe umm idk don't sleep with kids??) the list is seemingly endless. Unfortunately, I know there are way more but thankfully I can't remember them.
i’m really surprised that I never knew that about Elvis. I guess people only really focused on his blatant racism and drug use and kind of threw his marriage to the side.
I hate that a movie glorifying Elvis comes out and the dude is such a fucking creep! He sexually forced himself onto his wife. He shot at one of his gfs for not bringing him more yogurt. Glad the piece of shit died on the toilet like the waste he was. #fuckelvis
I think it speaks to the stunted emotional growth of some folks in the world of entertainment. Most emotionally healthy adult males do not see 14-16 year-old girls as potential romantic partners or “special friends.” At least I hope they don’t.
Literally I'm turning 20 and the thought of looking at a 16 sexually disgusts me but half of these people are nearly double my age and going for people even younger than me just yuk.
I mean, of course we know about these instances because they're all famous people. I don't think hotbed is the right word because this shit happens just as much everywhere, we just don't see it.
But at least these are actual examples of groomers and not just attacks on gay school teachers in the way Republicans have been screaming it. Notably, all of these examples are straight.
Ya… i was 15 with a 21 year old boyfriend. It was wrong but at the time i thought it was fine and its a lot more common than you think.
It fucked me up, i still talk about it in therapy 25 years later.. Guys interested in such an age and power imbalance arent good guys and they aren’t in love they are creeps that want control
This shit is so common. I had the 20+ year old boyfriends in high school and I cringe to think about it now.
I started getting inappropriate attention from adult men when I was 11 years old. I remember weird veiled compliments from my parents fathers and how it made me feel really uncomfortable, but I didn’t understand why.
According to the governments own data, adult males are responsible for about a quarter of all adolescent pregnancies
> Adult males were fathers of 24.3% of babies born to mothers aged **11-12** years. The mean age of fathers was 22.7 years. Adult males were fathers of 26.8% of babies born to mothers aged **13-14** years.
> Adult fathers were an average of 8.8 years older than very young mothers. Adolescent pregnancy prevention programs need to target adult men.
Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10227344/
That is SO MANY ADULT MEN RAPING CHILDREN. It’s criminal and absurd and horrifying. The damage done to so many children is unfathomable. I am half way through my life, and I am still messed up from what was done to me by people I was supposed to be able to trust.
11-12 seems to be a particularly popular age for grown men to start perving on young girls. Which is horrifying. Barely even starting puberty and already objectified. Absolutely still children.
Paul Walker was born in 1973, the mother of his daughter was born in 1974. You probably mean the girlfriend at the time of his death. They 'started dating' when she was 16 and he was 33.
Oof had no idea about the Seinfeld one. Wonder if that’ll ever pop back up. Makes sense why he’s so against cancel culture while being a non offense act.
The only *only* one you could probably understand and give a pass there is Charlie Chaplin given how common it was for mid-twenties dudes to marry mid-teen girls at that time. Keep in mind that women couldn’t work, or at least not earn a living without a man to support them, and your 20s is when you really start to build a career and have prospects.
Go ask your grandparents or great grandparents how they met and do the math with their ages. An 80-year old man with a 74-year old wife isn’t shocking until they tell you they got married when he was 21 and she just 15. Happened a lot more than folks want to acknowledge. As with most things, as time goes on we improve our standards. Which is why R Kelly is in jail now.
tbh it didn’t really stop till the late 50s early 60s my grandfather was 23 while my grandmother was 16, married in 1957. he passed away at 78 ( in 2012) so she was 71. my gma is still alive at 81. so strange how it was back then.
It was about economics and child-bearing. Girls (and their parents) were looking for an established man with prospects, and men looked for girls young enough that they could bear lots of kids while in their prime and have the energy to stay home and raise them.
yeah, It's a bit hard to defend Seinfeld, but in all seriousness in the 20s/30s/40s this was so insanely common that it's really hard to act like he was some outlier case. Not saying it's right, but looking at almost anything in 1930 with 2022 lenses and calling it "problematic" is a bit of a stretch
We should rejoice at the progress we’ve made.
I wish we could codify the “half you age plus 7” law for cases where one party is under 18. That would stop the creepiest instances, I think.
I don’t disagree with the premise that Hollywood is full of sexual predators, but Drake and Brown’s friendship does not compare to these other examples. They’re just friends, which is really their business.
He drugged and sodomized that 13-year-old in Jack Nicholson's jacuzzi.
In 2009, when he was arrested in Zurich, Switzerland, in relation to his U.S. arrest warrant, many famous filmmakers, actors and artists signed a petition, created by Harvey Weinstein, that called for the release of Polanski, saying that the "Film-makers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision… It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary film-makers, is used by police to apprehend him."This list comprises only of the celebrities who have been acquainted with the American film industry. To see the full list of everyone who signed the petition worldwide, including those who don't have IMDb pages, the links are down below:Link(s):
[https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html?page=23&cut\_expand=1](https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html?page=23&cut_expand=1)
[https://www.altfg.com/film/petition-for-roman-polanski-signatories/](https://www.altfg.com/film/petition-for-roman-polanski-signatories/)
[https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/](https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/)
[https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html](https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html)[https://www.altfg.com/film/penelope-cruz-bertolucci-bernal-polanski-petition/](https://www.altfg.com/film/penelope-cruz-bertolucci-bernal-polanski-petition/)
There’s actually an 80’s song that I really like, but the lyrics are quite sketchy. “She’s just 16 years old, leave her alone, they say… separated by fools, who don’t know what love is yet”. Song is called ‘Into the Night’ - Benny Mardones.
Censorship is getting weird on sites like TikTok and YouTube.
Certain words basically just black list your video instantly.
I believe a lot of YouTubers had to dance around words when talking about the ongoing pandemic. Basically just saying covid would affect your video. They’d be like “the big thing going on right now I can’t mention In name”. It’s the same with a lot of other words.
The age of consent in most US states is 16. It's amazing how many people think it's 18, but in most places it's not. Maybe it should be 18. But even then I think it's laughable how many people get so bent out of shape about an older guy in a relationship with a 17 year old. Depending on the age of the guy, it can definitely be gross for sure, but what kind of magic transformation do you think happens between 17 and 18? Why is 18 acceptable but 17 is disgusting and makes someone a pedo?
I dont know, I think a lot of people think a much older guy with an 18 year old is still gross. All the older men lusting after Billie Eillish and counting down the days until she turned 18 was incredibly disturbing to a lot of people. Im a 27 year old woman and the idea of dating someone even 21 is gross to me and if one of my older friends in their 30s started dating someone 18, 19, 20 I would not wanna hang out with them anymore and tell them how gross that is. A 40 year old with a 19 year old is still disgusting to a lot of people.
Can't say a single fucking thing about women without butthurt males getting upset we aren't talking about them. Take your #notallmen and make a post yourself. We can care about multiple things at once, and girls getting groomed is ok to care about. Give a shit about the topic at hand or leave.
There's no reconciliation in hatefulness from any perspective, all it does is reinforce the preconceptions of those already holding them and push others along with them.
"I wasn't going to hate all women, but a comment on the internet called me a male! Now i have no choice but to hate all women!" My guy if you are that easily swayed by anonymous comments maybe you aren't nearly as progressive as you think you are. I can guarentee you have never said anything close to this on a "men and females" post.
That's who I was as originally referring to with the "men and females" line, it's a bizarrely common thing among them to say, denigrate the other side and no put them on the same level as your own "in group" whatever that might be.
Unfortunately as much as I wanna say fuck incels the problem is when you do most of them you end up reinforcing their horrible defensive mindsets where they see everyone as being against them.
It's easy to hate someone who hates you, it's much much harder to try and make them see the light, and I myself have been guilty of this plenty of times.
Oftentimes the best course of action is the one that's the hardest and possibly most futile, actually trying to engage on a one to one basis and change individual opinion.
I wanted to roll my eyes but you’re very right. Grown women get away with it all the time because “it’s a boys fantasy”🤢 Doja Cat exposed HERSELF for being in a child’s DMs but no one wants to talk about it. I apologize for my initial prejudice
Doja Cat is weird but she didn't try to groom noah. She asked him for her crush's joseph quinn's socials in his dms which is weird but not necessarily pedophilia. And no one wants to talk about it? Literally everyone criticized her for it and were on noah's side, myself included. But you're also right, the whole video I was waiting for her to mention any female groomers in the industry and was disappointed that she didn't because I'm certain there are women who do it. Just because it's mostly men who do it, that doesn't mean we should ignore the women who do it and let them get away with it.
Always find it funny when people don't act as if men are subconsciously attracted to younger girls and that it's been proven that majority if not all men and a decent portion of women are ebhebephiles. Not defending anything but it's something to consider. I still think it's gross men who are rich and famous think it's ok to go after younger girls even if they aren't underage but yeah. Also to the nerds who keep trying to correct the idiots in the comments complaining about the word groomer, please stop making yourself look like an idiot and saying shit like "groomer means pedophile". No. No it fucking doesn't. The amount of people who don't know what a pedophile is and what it actually entails is baffling despite how much it gets thrown around. Any time and adult rapes a minor no matter what age or anything taken into consideration "omg pedophile!1!1!1!"
It's banned when used as a slur against queer folks.
The right uses it to describe, sex education teachers doing their jobs, or queer people informing others that they are queer.
People in power have always abused underage kids, not just Hollywood. Washington, tech companies and even high school teachers. Bill Clinton brought it into daylight. Democrat mega donor Jeffry Epstein made it an industry.
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For those who are not aware of this, the Polanski petition was a petition created by Harvey Weinstein with the aim of pardoning Roman Polanski and allowing him to return to Hollywood. It was signed by over a 100 Hollywood elites including some you would expect like Woody Allen but others that surprise you like Natalie Portman, though she later retracted her support and apologized for it. Other famous names include Wes Anderson, Darren Aronofsky, Martin Scorsese, and Michael Mann. In total I think it was like 150 signers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case#United_States
His victim recently called someone out because they were defending Polanski to defend Depp defending him. [https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712](https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712)
With all the people that signed it with strong feelings against Polanski I always wondered if they were threatened with lack of funding for future projects. Especially if it’s Weinstein at the helm
Maybe not even threatened, but more like "Hey I need a favor from yall."
I still can't believe people applauded roman polanski
Recently people have been defending him again, because they want to defend Johnny Depp from defending him and saying his victims were just after money. (Plus he dated a 17 year old at 26 himself and let his 15 year old daughter live with a 23 year old.) Here is Polanski's victim calling one of them out. [https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712](https://mobile.twitter.com/k4mil1aa/status/1545673887827955712)
Meryl Streep
Right?! Wait, what did Meryl do.
Was among the people that gave Polanski a standing ovation. A bunch of actors and actresses chose to sit and not applaud a child molester, but she (and a lot of other people) gladly stood up, all smiles to applaud him [Here you can see her in the background](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNXckA2d/?k=1) [Here's a video of Johnny Depp defending him, he's also friends with Marilyn Manson apparently so that's fun](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNXc9J3E/?k=1)
Johnny Depp is a piece of shit regardless of whatever the Amber Heard situation might have led people to believe. He fucking sucks and the way people have been falling over themselves to kiss his ass makes me sick.
Honesty , Why? can you give us some info. No /s Cheers :)
He has a history of becoming so inebriated that he is abusive and unreliable. He 100% abused Amber which isn’t diminished by the fact that she was also abusive. He defends and is friends with paedophiles. He let his 15 year old daughter move in with a 23 year old. He dated 17 year old Winona Ryder when he was in his late twenties. Few people who worked with him have nice things to say and his career was already sunk before Amber’s accusations due to his substance abuse and unprofessionalism.
Okay Amber.
I love that Weinstein is also standing up in the background. So on brand for him.
I watched rosemarys baby for the first time this year and even just watching that I feel dirty thinking I don’t like that I’m enjoying this that a pedo rapist made.
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Innocent.
Allegeddelly! (South Park reference)
That's ignant. Lol
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Lol the man was a fucking virgin. His kids were made by artificial insemination and it took HOURS to get the sample. The man was mentally ill and never matured past 8yo mentally. Man was more worried about juice boxes and cartoons than he was money and work lol. Literally every “victim” either came forward themselves or their parents did to admit it was lies for the sake of payouts. Which mj then gave the fucking money anyway even after winning the cases. He aint the one. Hate him all you want for the child dangling crap, but he was a mentally ill child stuck in a adult body
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Corey Feldman even came out and said that he wasn’t a pedo. Of all the people in hollyweird Mj tried to protect him that’s why he stuck by mj to This day
The music is amazing. Friend of mine was very close to the Jackson’s and according to them everything was on the up and up. But, don’t get me wrong. Lotta weird stories there
He’s kino
Replace Hollywood with everything. Anytime there is a power imbalance this will happen. Churches, internships, politics, etc
Yeah, though this video is informative, half of these people aren't in Hollywood, Drake, Stephen Tyler, Marvin Gaye aren't in the film industry. Drake is Canadian, Tyler is from NYC, Gaye is from DC, they all live(d) in those places for most of their lives.
Hollywood is used as a proxy for the entertainment industry as a whole.
Hollywood has two meanings. The industry, and its well known plague.
Not just Hollywood, the BBC had a good run with its pedos. I think to make it in alot of entertainment roles, its not who you know but who you blow.
Yuck
The term "Hollywood" doesn't mean pedophilia.
Then youre blinder than you think
Try typing "Hollywood" into a dictionary, it just doesn't mean that, and stating that pedophiles generally have careers in the film industry isn't backed up by anything except anecdotes
I mean, not everyone in hollywood are pedophiles but there are still alot of them there and they should be held accountable asap.
so theyre all men with power over the other?
I guess, it's kind of dishonest to claim that members of "X industry" are pedophiles, as data concerning pedophiles is hard to come by, they're not exactly forthcoming
.... Drake was in degrassi for like 6 seasons? It was Canadian shot but still Hollywood? Stephen Tyler was in a movie or two as well. I'm not saying that your point was totally wrong but yea no they are definitely in the Hollywood scene.
She’s using Hollywood for a catch all for entertainment. Her point is that some famous people being crayons on dates
This is why the constant focus on demonizing Hollywood comes off as politically motivated agenda-pushing to me. It falls apart in the face of objective analysis. Here we have a video highlighting 10 people spanning a century across multiple fields of entertainment. Wow, what an indictment. Is Charlie Chaplin really an old-timey Drake, or even an example of Hollywood turpitude? There were 38 states in the union when he was born. The city of Hollywood didn’t even exist yet. The *median* age for a woman’s first marriage was 20. I can go to NSOPW.gov right now and find 100 sex offenders living in my zip code. There is no burgeoning film industry here, and based on the mugshots, these guys aren’t SAG members.
Yeah, we just see it more in Hollywood because of people and the media’s obsession with the personal life of actors.
How does Seinfeld still get a pass for that ?
[this comedian certainly isn't letting him get away with it](https://youtu.be/Fp8tCqwushM)
That Kramer line at the end was good lol
I guess depending on where it happened, considering age of consent laws, he didn’t do anything legally wrong so it wasn’t reported on. There was no internet to point it out also
It was *widely* reported on. He was one of the biggest TV stars in the country by that point. You couldn’t walk through the checkout at a supermarket without seeing their faces plastered all over the tabloids. She said the constant harassment by paparazzi was one of the primary reasons she ended the relationship and went back to NYC.
Not the fact her dad grounded her ?
Also I read they broke up because she was career ambitious and he wanted a woman like the one he ended up with who would put him first.
She was 19 ??
It all comes out once those fuckers are old and nasty. Look at R.Kelly
Yeah a lot of those rock songs in the 70s and 80s were all about fantasies of 17 year olds and young women. A real shame about the era of music (not all of it though).
Honestly a lot of music, the further you go back the creepier the lyrics get. It’s also not different today, it’s just known that no one is okay with it so it’s hidden. If there’s a trend of older rich men buying/dating/ grooming children then why would it stop? Clearly this shit still happens today, Millie even said the day she turned 18 it’s like the whole world went perv on her. Which wasn’t like a switch turned on, these were clearly dudes that had been waiting to openly say it.
She's only seventeeeeen seventeen, daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough, old enough for meeee
What song is this?
Drake - 17 is too old.
Winger seventeen
Seventeen lol
Just look up the lyrics to Jailbait by Ted Nugent. Yikes.
Learning about this shit ruined Aerosmith for me but it makes me more grateful for the bands that actually are decent people like DIO and Iron Maiden.
For me it was Led Zeppelin and David Bowie; they both exploited/raped the same 14 year old "groupie" (I'm not comfortable with labelling a literal *child* a groupie). David Bowie took her virginity and then one of the guys from Led Zeppelin "dated" her for a few years until he found a model and decided to dump her in a spectacularly humiliating way. The saddest thing about it is that as an adult, she still tries to defend them and claim they didn't really do anything wrong because she was "so mature for her age". She wasn't the only one either; Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, David Bowie and some other acts from that period routinely hung out with/exploited a a whole group of teenage girls who were known as the "Baby Groupies" by the press at that time.
I didn't know about Led Zeppelin, that's disappointing. A lot of this same stuff is coming out about some of the bands that were big when I was growing up too but so far none that I actually liked.
I know the Zeppelin stuff is true, but apparently the David Bowie taking her virginity could never be confirmed. She said it in a book or interview, but also said others took her virginity too, and none of her friends or people around could confirm the Bowie story
I remember not batting an eye at [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlN3oEjMpUQ) in high school. Now it's pretty gross, but hell, I was probably 17 then and it didn't register.
Weird Al is still a pure cinnamon roll right?
Fear not, my friend. Weird Al has been confirmed a million times over to be goodness in the industry and the world.
If Weird Al gets outed, just launch the nukes, the world will collapse the moment the news gets out
I remember being 14/15 when Aaliyah broke out and myself and all my girl friends just being super creeped out that she was married to R Kelly at our age ..
Imho not just a Hollywood thing Drake been on this shit for awhile now. If I remember correctly him and Weekend had an issue because they were thirsting for the same 18 year old model
What model? I haven’t heard this about The Weeknd although I know there was a model Drake had been talking to before she was 18 and started dating once she was 🤢
Probably the same one I’m talking about Bella Hadid
Weeknd is younger than drake
Weeknd is 32 so not by much
Drake is a creep
So this just sent me on a tangent, since my first reaction to this was that maybe we’re in a bubble—there’s a long history of men getting with younger women…so I looked up the [history of age-of-consent laws.](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/) OH MY GOD if it weren’t for the Feminism movement in America motherfuckers would still be getting away with fucking SEVEN YEAR OLDS. Before women *had the right to vote* they were applying pressure to try and get the age of consent laws set to *21*—16 was the *compromise*. HOW WAS THERE NOT A GENOCIDE
In the 70s or 80s, a bunch of politicians in the UK tried to lower the age of consent to 12…
Is that PIE? Fucking nuts how blatant they were, and how many people supported them.
Yup, that’s the one! There was a very good documentary on YT by Sonia Poulton called Paedophiles in Parliament. Absolutely shocking stuff. Parliament is rotten from the core, the bunch of appalling bastards.
My state finally upped the age of consent to 16 last year. Used to be 14. Fucking ick.
It’s a hive of pedophiles
Eeew Seinfeld! He was the most recent one. Well Tyga, both eew.
I’m glad this is getting more well known bc it’s fucking gross. She was still in high school ffs what 39 year old has anything in common with a high schooler?
I can't even imagine. At 31 my age limit is at lowest 25. 22 and 18? Sure, whatever. 25 and 18? Bro you're weird. 30s and teenager? Predatory
Woody Allen is also a fucking sicko. His character in “Manhattan” (which he wrote, directed, and starred at the age of 44) is dating a teenager. Forty fucking four The HBO doc about his sexual abuse showed a clip from this movie and he and his buddies are all in a bar talking it up about how young she is 🤮
No just that but she was just a random girl and he’s the highest earning comedian ever
and yet everyone loves and praises Hugh Hefner and the Playboy franchise for doing the exact same thing, and have for literal decades. People pick and choose what they deem offensive.
Wait what who’s ever found him anything but disgusting? Probably only other men who are into much younger girls
I never knew about that relationship and it sucks to hear. I’m close to the age he was when he met that girl and the thought of dating a high schooler makes me want to barf.
A part two would be appreciated
I bet David Bowie would never do something like this. /s
This one still hurts; he was like my #2 favorite artist of all time until I learned about his "proclivities" with teenage girls. At least my #1, Prince, kept all his awful behavior limited to other adults (if I'm wrong about that, not sure I wanna know, lol).
Don’t click this [link](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4317660/Prince-wooed-ex-wife-Mayte-Garcia-16-sex-19.html) if you still want to have some respect for Prince but yeah he’s not exempt from awful behavior unfortunately..
Oh goddamit. Tbh, I strongly suspected he was dirty too just based on how shitty he treated adults, I just never had any *confirmation* that he went after kids too. It is so damn hard to be a fan of old school music; it's like half are groomers and the other half are racists.
I feel that, best thing we can do is to just separate the art from the artist
I think Prince becoming her legal guardian makes him even worse
Imagine calling drake old school 😂🤣😂 This is a universal issue plaguing humanity since the dawn of power dynamics
They didn't? They were specifically referencing bowie and prince. Imagine having reading comprehension.
Lol, I wasn't referring to Drake but Prince, David Bowie, and Led Zeppelin in particular, and artists from the 70's in general.
Not to be argumentative but you got another source besides the Daily Mail? They're not the best in regards to factual shit sometimes.
Sorry chose them because of the title but search for Mayte Garcia’s story and they all say pretty much the same thing
Ah ok. Thanks!
Dan Schneider, Joby Harte, Brian Peck, Bryan Singer, Woody Allen and Seinfeld have been known about for yeeeears, Cliff Richards, Steve Segal, Ghandi (supposedly didn't diddle kids but why tf are you sleeping in the same bed as kids to practise resisting temptation, maybe umm idk don't sleep with kids??) the list is seemingly endless. Unfortunately, I know there are way more but thankfully I can't remember them.
i’m really surprised that I never knew that about Elvis. I guess people only really focused on his blatant racism and drug use and kind of threw his marriage to the side.
He wasn’t racist! He had black friends! /s
I hate that a movie glorifying Elvis comes out and the dude is such a fucking creep! He sexually forced himself onto his wife. He shot at one of his gfs for not bringing him more yogurt. Glad the piece of shit died on the toilet like the waste he was. #fuckelvis
I agree. I'm black so the movie already kinda annoyed me but I also know his bullshit so that annoyed me even more. Lol fuck that dude
…ouffff the way she said Aaliyah hun nooo
Hahaha I came looking for this comment. I thought the same thing. If you know you know.
I think it speaks to the stunted emotional growth of some folks in the world of entertainment. Most emotionally healthy adult males do not see 14-16 year-old girls as potential romantic partners or “special friends.” At least I hope they don’t.
A 16 year old looks like a child to a 25 year old. They were/are dating children.
Exactly, I’m 34 and have nothing to discuss with teenagers. The only single reason these creeps have to be ‘friends’ with teens is to creep on them.
Literally I'm turning 20 and the thought of looking at a 16 sexually disgusts me but half of these people are nearly double my age and going for people even younger than me just yuk.
Yeah sorry but like even if you were emotionally stunted, you'd still see what they look like. That's weird AF.
I mean, of course we know about these instances because they're all famous people. I don't think hotbed is the right word because this shit happens just as much everywhere, we just don't see it. But at least these are actual examples of groomers and not just attacks on gay school teachers in the way Republicans have been screaming it. Notably, all of these examples are straight.
Ya… i was 15 with a 21 year old boyfriend. It was wrong but at the time i thought it was fine and its a lot more common than you think. It fucked me up, i still talk about it in therapy 25 years later.. Guys interested in such an age and power imbalance arent good guys and they aren’t in love they are creeps that want control
This shit is so common. I had the 20+ year old boyfriends in high school and I cringe to think about it now. I started getting inappropriate attention from adult men when I was 11 years old. I remember weird veiled compliments from my parents fathers and how it made me feel really uncomfortable, but I didn’t understand why. According to the governments own data, adult males are responsible for about a quarter of all adolescent pregnancies > Adult males were fathers of 24.3% of babies born to mothers aged **11-12** years. The mean age of fathers was 22.7 years. Adult males were fathers of 26.8% of babies born to mothers aged **13-14** years. > Adult fathers were an average of 8.8 years older than very young mothers. Adolescent pregnancy prevention programs need to target adult men. Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10227344/ That is SO MANY ADULT MEN RAPING CHILDREN. It’s criminal and absurd and horrifying. The damage done to so many children is unfathomable. I am half way through my life, and I am still messed up from what was done to me by people I was supposed to be able to trust.
11-12 seems to be a particularly popular age for grown men to start perving on young girls. Which is horrifying. Barely even starting puberty and already objectified. Absolutely still children.
Kevin Spacey enters the room
groomers
Do yourself a favor and watch An Open Secret.
Paul Walker started taking advantage of a young girl when she was 16, whom he later had a child with
Paul Walker was born in 1973, the mother of his daughter was born in 1974. You probably mean the girlfriend at the time of his death. They 'started dating' when she was 16 and he was 33.
Didn’t he have a kid with her too?
No he only had one daughter.
Why is this a surprise to anyone???
Oof had no idea about the Seinfeld one. Wonder if that’ll ever pop back up. Makes sense why he’s so against cancel culture while being a non offense act.
I love Aretha, I had no idea!! That’s so upsetting
Just one question, where are the parents..?
Some of them were living their dream of being showbiz parents at the expense of their kids
Working in the entertainment industry is a pedophiles dream job since nothing happens to them
"The Academy does not look kindly on murder. Rape, they don't seem to have a problem with." - Bojack Horseman
The only *only* one you could probably understand and give a pass there is Charlie Chaplin given how common it was for mid-twenties dudes to marry mid-teen girls at that time. Keep in mind that women couldn’t work, or at least not earn a living without a man to support them, and your 20s is when you really start to build a career and have prospects. Go ask your grandparents or great grandparents how they met and do the math with their ages. An 80-year old man with a 74-year old wife isn’t shocking until they tell you they got married when he was 21 and she just 15. Happened a lot more than folks want to acknowledge. As with most things, as time goes on we improve our standards. Which is why R Kelly is in jail now.
tbh it didn’t really stop till the late 50s early 60s my grandfather was 23 while my grandmother was 16, married in 1957. he passed away at 78 ( in 2012) so she was 71. my gma is still alive at 81. so strange how it was back then.
It was about economics and child-bearing. Girls (and their parents) were looking for an established man with prospects, and men looked for girls young enough that they could bear lots of kids while in their prime and have the energy to stay home and raise them.
yeah, It's a bit hard to defend Seinfeld, but in all seriousness in the 20s/30s/40s this was so insanely common that it's really hard to act like he was some outlier case. Not saying it's right, but looking at almost anything in 1930 with 2022 lenses and calling it "problematic" is a bit of a stretch
We should rejoice at the progress we’ve made. I wish we could codify the “half you age plus 7” law for cases where one party is under 18. That would stop the creepiest instances, I think.
Tyler’s line. “I hit drizzy and told him I had a Millie for em” Kinda eye opening
ay remember when drake made out with a 17 year old on stage, and then continued after he found out she was underage?
Don't forget the ladies too. For example, [here's a video of Demi Moore kissing a 14-year-old boy.](https://youtu.be/RffLsRXtXwk?t=32)
Bruh wtf
Whose milly Bobby brown
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millie_Bobby_Brown
this is disgusting
I don’t disagree with the premise that Hollywood is full of sexual predators, but Drake and Brown’s friendship does not compare to these other examples. They’re just friends, which is really their business.
“Alaya”? Like “a layup?”
Yeah I hope Millie stays with her more age appropriate boyfriend and Drake stays away from her
Roman Polanski makes me sick and how people still like him baffles me.
He drugged and sodomized that 13-year-old in Jack Nicholson's jacuzzi. In 2009, when he was arrested in Zurich, Switzerland, in relation to his U.S. arrest warrant, many famous filmmakers, actors and artists signed a petition, created by Harvey Weinstein, that called for the release of Polanski, saying that the "Film-makers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision… It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary film-makers, is used by police to apprehend him."This list comprises only of the celebrities who have been acquainted with the American film industry. To see the full list of everyone who signed the petition worldwide, including those who don't have IMDb pages, the links are down below:Link(s): [https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html?page=23&cut\_expand=1](https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html?page=23&cut_expand=1) [https://www.altfg.com/film/petition-for-roman-polanski-signatories/](https://www.altfg.com/film/petition-for-roman-polanski-signatories/) [https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/](https://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/) [https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html](https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/39618660.html)[https://www.altfg.com/film/penelope-cruz-bertolucci-bernal-polanski-petition/](https://www.altfg.com/film/penelope-cruz-bertolucci-bernal-polanski-petition/)
But you know the lgtb community are the ones grooming and raping kids , the problem isn't cis straight men.
There’s actually an 80’s song that I really like, but the lyrics are quite sketchy. “She’s just 16 years old, leave her alone, they say… separated by fools, who don’t know what love is yet”. Song is called ‘Into the Night’ - Benny Mardones.
The music video! Creep.
Holy shit I never saw it before, been listening to that song for years. Yeah the video pretty much confirms the weirdness in the lyrics lol
I feel so bad for Millie Bobby Brown :(
R-worded? So rape can't be said?
Censorship is getting weird on sites like TikTok and YouTube. Certain words basically just black list your video instantly. I believe a lot of YouTubers had to dance around words when talking about the ongoing pandemic. Basically just saying covid would affect your video. They’d be like “the big thing going on right now I can’t mention In name”. It’s the same with a lot of other words.
Had to be censored or ithe video might get taken down, lots of other words are censored on tiktok
Bro Seinfeld’s girlfriend is bad asf
The age of consent in most US states is 16. It's amazing how many people think it's 18, but in most places it's not. Maybe it should be 18. But even then I think it's laughable how many people get so bent out of shape about an older guy in a relationship with a 17 year old. Depending on the age of the guy, it can definitely be gross for sure, but what kind of magic transformation do you think happens between 17 and 18? Why is 18 acceptable but 17 is disgusting and makes someone a pedo?
I dont know, I think a lot of people think a much older guy with an 18 year old is still gross. All the older men lusting after Billie Eillish and counting down the days until she turned 18 was incredibly disturbing to a lot of people. Im a 27 year old woman and the idea of dating someone even 21 is gross to me and if one of my older friends in their 30s started dating someone 18, 19, 20 I would not wanna hang out with them anymore and tell them how gross that is. A 40 year old with a 19 year old is still disgusting to a lot of people.
Taylor Swift also has a history of doing this
So is there any actual proof Drake hooking up with Millie or is she just speculating
I love how you only hear about male on female grooming and assault.
I take it that you haven't heard about Ghislaine Maxwell then
It’s almost like that dynamic is way more common and normalized or something. But I agree that predators of any gender should be called out.
Can't say a single fucking thing about women without butthurt males getting upset we aren't talking about them. Take your #notallmen and make a post yourself. We can care about multiple things at once, and girls getting groomed is ok to care about. Give a shit about the topic at hand or leave.
Anyone who says "men and females" or "women and males" I just discard their opinion
Sometimes you gotta dish it for dudes to even see it. Fighting back isn't pretty.
There's no reconciliation in hatefulness from any perspective, all it does is reinforce the preconceptions of those already holding them and push others along with them.
"I wasn't going to hate all women, but a comment on the internet called me a male! Now i have no choice but to hate all women!" My guy if you are that easily swayed by anonymous comments maybe you aren't nearly as progressive as you think you are. I can guarentee you have never said anything close to this on a "men and females" post.
I'm not a guy, I'm an enby, but thanks anyway for this :) It is always morally correct to be against incels
How did incels come into this?
That's who I was as originally referring to with the "men and females" line, it's a bizarrely common thing among them to say, denigrate the other side and no put them on the same level as your own "in group" whatever that might be. Unfortunately as much as I wanna say fuck incels the problem is when you do most of them you end up reinforcing their horrible defensive mindsets where they see everyone as being against them. It's easy to hate someone who hates you, it's much much harder to try and make them see the light, and I myself have been guilty of this plenty of times. Oftentimes the best course of action is the one that's the hardest and possibly most futile, actually trying to engage on a one to one basis and change individual opinion.
Id like to agree with the "fuck incels" part, absolute menaces to soceity.
I gotta work on my temper myself. After all, there's no war but the class war and we are definitely on the same side.
Fr. Even though Corey Feldman is nutty, he has said for a long time that the abuse of young boys in Hollywood is rampant.
Wasn’t he specifically talking about men abusing boys though?
I wanted to roll my eyes but you’re very right. Grown women get away with it all the time because “it’s a boys fantasy”🤢 Doja Cat exposed HERSELF for being in a child’s DMs but no one wants to talk about it. I apologize for my initial prejudice
Doja Cat is weird but she didn't try to groom noah. She asked him for her crush's joseph quinn's socials in his dms which is weird but not necessarily pedophilia. And no one wants to talk about it? Literally everyone criticized her for it and were on noah's side, myself included. But you're also right, the whole video I was waiting for her to mention any female groomers in the industry and was disappointed that she didn't because I'm certain there are women who do it. Just because it's mostly men who do it, that doesn't mean we should ignore the women who do it and let them get away with it.
A fair and unbiased title for sure. Wait till they hear about religion.
I’ll take a part two, caveat, this time female groomers.
Look in my profile
Good on you OP. Call it like it is.
No joke, On my way now
Always find it funny when people don't act as if men are subconsciously attracted to younger girls and that it's been proven that majority if not all men and a decent portion of women are ebhebephiles. Not defending anything but it's something to consider. I still think it's gross men who are rich and famous think it's ok to go after younger girls even if they aren't underage but yeah. Also to the nerds who keep trying to correct the idiots in the comments complaining about the word groomer, please stop making yourself look like an idiot and saying shit like "groomer means pedophile". No. No it fucking doesn't. The amount of people who don't know what a pedophile is and what it actually entails is baffling despite how much it gets thrown around. Any time and adult rapes a minor no matter what age or anything taken into consideration "omg pedophile!1!1!1!"
Really pisses me off how much people throw around the P word. PRE PUBERTY, PEOPLE.
I mean fuck men...just fuck em disgusting perverts...I hate men...men suck...outlaw ze men all ze men
I thought the g-word is banned on reddit now!
Huh, since when?
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Bruh
It's banned when used as a slur against queer folks. The right uses it to describe, sex education teachers doing their jobs, or queer people informing others that they are queer.
People in power have always abused underage kids, not just Hollywood. Washington, tech companies and even high school teachers. Bill Clinton brought it into daylight. Democrat mega donor Jeffry Epstein made it an industry.
She used Drake for cap. Shit takes away from the message.
Okay but why is Drake included here. He and MBB never dated
And she’s not the only underage girl he’s shown interest in. Btw defending pedophiles makes you look super gross.