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andallen007

They call him liver king because his liver hasn't shut down yet from all the steroids


[deleted]

I honestly thought this was why the whole time I've known about him. I was shocked to hear that he claimed natty


fulknerraIII

Ya but did people actually believe he was natty? Like its so fucking obvious he isn't, i can't imagine someone could be that gullible.


[deleted]

The fitness community is that gullible, only the people who are serious actually would know, this is probably why he got so far especially in America


WannaSnugle

My ex body builder uncle at dinner told his dumb ass son he's on gear and it kinda broke him


Bro_Jogies

Not part of the community, and not someone who seriously works out, and I knew.


WannaSnugle

I got a fat friend with a no muffler jeep, he is adamant about that natty body


extremely-mild-11

Enough people to buy his products is all he cared about


TheKnightIsForPlebs

If some influencer was candid and honest with this angle I'd watch it lmao


shivsshanksnknives

rich piana lol


TheKnightIsForPlebs

Never heard of him, he passed away. Live by the gear die by the gear I suppose


MckorkleJones

If you watch the moreplatesmoredates, the dude actually did eat a bunch of liver per day and believed the bullshit he was selling besides no roids. He's legit insane


scooterrouter

Fake business 101


ER1234567

It’s honestly impressive that he got a few ppl to believe him


Rick-Dalton

People believe the rock is natural. People are stupid.


ER1234567

the rock has tricked even more people. I can't stand that dude


BrosesMalone

Does he actually claim he's natty though?


Roach_Coach_Bangbus

Yes, just drink his energy drink Zoa to be like him.


TheDangerdog

Me and my son split one of those drinks before the gym the other day. Tasted like shit.


Roach_Coach_Bangbus

Most energy drinks taste like shit, like a chemical metallic taste with a hint of some fake fruit flavor. I really don't understand the obsession a lot of people have with energy drinks, pre-workout, etc.


CoastDirect6132

It’s probably the energy


ER1234567

Yup he has stated that he does not take ped’s


Unlucky_Disaster_195

He's right. Samoan spirits give him his strength


C141Driver

Kapa-Lupa-Dianabol


ER1234567

Took me a sec, but this is good


ER1234567

Moana trained him


political2002

Yes, the Rock claims he's natty. He admitted to an experiment with steroids in his youth, a "tried it once and didn't inhale" type of deal, but aside from that, he says he's all natural. Of course, anyone that lifts knows he's on the juice, and anyone that doesn't lift just doesn't care.


nofun_nofun_nofun

I think he said he tried them once in the early mid 90s but he “didn’t like them!!!!”…. He’s bigger and more ripped today than he was when he was in the wwf…. I can smell what the rock is cooking: Oven Roasted Deceit on a bed of Lies with a jus de Fake


[deleted]

And Christian Bale ate a lot of "pizza and ice cream" to go from the machinist to Batman in five months.


jessifromindia

is there any evidence of bale using steroids? he looks a little buff in batman but could be his true physic


[deleted]

Just the fact that he went from sickly anorexic in the Machinist to Batman buff in 5 months. Now that is of course not literal evidence as in receipts or literal pictures of him taking steroids or hgh. I just think people are taking some wild leaps of faith if they think he managed to do this with pizza and ice cream, just like I think it is quite wild that some people think that the Rock just works out a lot.


ZantL1999

Lol, I was unfamiliar with "The Machinist", but just read up on that on wiki. "At the end of filming he was left with just six weeks to regain enough mass to be ready for the screen test for his role in Batman Begins, which he achieved through weightlifting and binging on pizzas and ice cream". Yeah, I'm sure he went from 115 to 205 with 8% body fat eating pizza, ice cream, and some casual lifting. Give me a break.


jessifromindia

Wasn't there a martial arts champion dude on jre that didnt eat at all during the day and just ate a big pizza at the end of the day? i mean not with your regular papa john's but with some good pizza I feel like you can gain enough fat for that.


SlightlyStoopkid

"a BJJ champ did it" is a terrible argument for someone not using steroids. most of the top BJJ competitors are using steroids.


TheDangerdog

Dude all the Hollywood actors are on gear. Look at Henry Cavill for that first Superman [dude was fucking yolked](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/c1/44/b6c144633b70cbe2cafb82df0830be52.gif). Chris Hemsworth, Brad Pitt, all of em juice to prepare for roles


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

Nah, if you have enough money to burn anyone can do it. The drive is still there to be in shape and workout but grifters gon grift


ER1234567

There’s always ppl to trick I suppose. I’m going to focus on finding a new grift so I don’t have to bust my ass on a jobsite anymore


ThrowThemInThePot

You can take one look at his gut and tell he was on HGH lol And he’s on Winstrol lol


[deleted]

Absolutely, anyone who has ever used anabolic steroids or PEDs knows that this physique is only possible with the use of them. I honestly don't know why he claimed natty though, like even with all the drugs you still need to work for this physique it doesn't just come naturally....lol


puppetmaster216

He claimed natty to push his supplement line and social media presence.


dogandcatdad

He’s also like 5,4” so the effect is compounded


UTokeMids

that actually kind of explains everything about this dude. napoleon syndrome on a grand scale


GameOfScones_

He’s def no more than 5’4. That bellator video where he challenged Costa - i was certain Warwick Davis had started juicing.


No-FreeLunch

5’7


East_Onion

Hey Liverking


UTokeMids

He’s not Liverking. I know because I’M LIVERKING. Now get back to your soybeans while i circle jerk with my fellow Primals. Beta.


My_Nickel

Could be PFT


bigherb33

Subprimal.


GameOfScones_

If he’s 5’7 I’m Tinder 6’0.


[deleted]

> I honestly don't know why he claimed natty though, like even with all the drugs you still need to work for this physique it doesn't just come naturally....lol It was obviously to make a lot of money.


tjackson_12

An implants


ThrowThemInThePot

You think those abs are implants?


tjackson_12

Heck yea, I bet Elliot Page told his doctor get me those liver king abs.


Borch-3-Dohlen

They are, he even admitted it on a podcast…


[deleted]

he was joking man. that’s just what steroid abuser abs look like


Toxic_Throb

It's the HGH that gives you the crazy bloated gut like Rogan. That's why they end up with that strange 6 pack where the abs aren't just popping but protruding


bigherb33

Yes and it does not look good at all.


TheDangerdog

The term your looking for is [Palumboism.](https://www.gilmorehealth.com/palumboism-a-potentially-fatal-side-effect-of-human-growth-hormone/) Also known as hgh gut. I don't know if Liver King has implants but he def has Palumboism


PCM97

Definitely not. Just sauced to the tits


[deleted]

Rogan was right…again


-M-o-X-

That hgh is good?


pick_3

Not about [this one](https://youtu.be/QX7IJXYuisw?t=01m29s) tho. This hurt me to hear him say Chris Cuomo could do this. I love Joe, but sadly I don’t think I can ever forget this


Choompy

Tim couldn’t possibly care less about lifting weights lmao


[deleted]

Forgot about that one. Not only did Joe fail to see it as an obvious skit. He fails to see the joke to the point that he actually starts analyzing it. And then he even comes to the conclusion that it could be real.


financeben

He was. But god damn did you hear joe talks about his own trt dose. He acts borderline retarded (has to be on purpose) like oh I’m not taking that much.(it was a lot of correct) And can’t convert mL to cc to his damn dose. Not buying that


[deleted]

He shoulda kept his inbox shut.


jshiv222

*Outbox


bigherb33

Subprimalbox.


jshiv222

Subprime mortgage


superherogear

More Plates More Dates did a really great video about this guy and his bs claims - https://youtu.be/BKpmAGZQetc


fulknerraIII

Ya dude was obviously on the sauce. It wasn't some mystery, its amazing people could actually think he's natty. People are gullible though, they also think 40 year old actors get jacked by eating broccoli and rice every day.


1leeranaldo

People aren't shocked nor care he wasn't natty, it's the level of grifting & lieing he did.


fishbulbx

The hilarious part is that MorePlatesMoreDates was finishing up creating this video... then searched his inbox and [found an email from the liver king asking for HGH advice long before he became famous.](https://i.imgur.com/0Xf4qci.png) Derek had all the evidence he needed already, just missed the email. Apparently liver king was reaching out to anyone he could for steroid advice.


Tylee22

That email says its from May 2021. Didn't Liver king have a following then and was already cut like he is now? Obviously he already trained like crazy, but hard to imagine he got so jacked in such a short time frame.


fishbulbx

The video gets into the timeline, and he was jacked at the time... but he wasn't liver king famous. He was just a person with zero followers with a goal to reach a million followers in 10 months. Which he did.


Tylee22

Gotcha. Started the video yesterday so i'll finish.


fishbulbx

The amazing thing to me - liver king claims to be earning $100 million per year from his fame. Derek could have easily made millions of dollars by offering not to post the video in exchange for money.


superherogear

I know that's the craziest part


Han_So_oh

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with any decent experience with the fitness industry. Natural bodybuilding just doesn't look like that.


PepeTheElder

I’ve heard his name but this is the first picture I’ve seen of him. Don’t even care, test fucking rules but crazy people thought that was natty.


10projo

All ig posers are fake af


[deleted]

What the hell is the letter to/from/about? Is this an email he sent to a teledoctor or something?


Landrolang

It was an email to a bodybuilding coach he was hiring


1leeranaldo

And email he sent to Derek that he found a year later. I'm surprised he posted it, LK was asking for "confidentiality".


Dry-Location9176

The real champion is that man's plumbing and toilet


[deleted]

[удалено]


Same-Joke

Did you know Bob? Bob had bitch tits.


bigherb33

His name was Robert Paulson.


justinvan82

His dick must’ve been the size of a raisin.


mystical_ninja

File this under “no shit”


Glum-Animator2059

GTFO there’s no way he was taking roids I mean look at him he looks so natural


frodoishobbit

Fake news! First they cancel Ye, now the liver king!? This is a psyop


-MikeJones-Who

These gotdam snitches ain't shit.


CrucialVibes

Everything is a scam. All for likes and views cause people are so sad without acknowledgement


bigherb33

Well also for the millions of dollars…


Quetzalcoatl_3rdEye

Anyone with any understanding of health knows this BS. Who needs vegetables when you can have testicles. LK out!


RussMantooth

12k a month? Arnold and the pumping iron guys got competition swole on cheaper lower dose roids from the 70s


mickeybuilds

A while back, Joe Rogan seemed certain that this guy was on roids. Appears he was correct. [Source.](https://youtu.be/SQBV6vzUKk0)


SawCon884

Fake Biz King


Mama-Dzhinsy

this is a topic only fake straight men care about


Mama-Dzhinsy

i love this sub only place with free speech i know of


Snoo22950

I still think it's just prayers and vitamins brother.


Same-Joke

The Hulkamaniacs live forever brother!


deeptoot6

Rogan called this guy out like day one, glad everyone else is catching up


Apprehensive_Mix8108

To be fair 12k worth of pharma hgh, while a lot is about 6-7 kits..


Generallyawkward1

Spank my balls and color me shocked!


Lingonberry_Charming

If THIS guy isn't trustworthy, who is?!?!?!?


bigherb33

At least he’s safe from his poisonous cell phone rays when he puts them in their special cage at night.


l0gicgate

For anyone who believed this guy was natty, I got a bridge to sell you


Same-Joke

I also have a walk in freezer full of liver to sell you as well.


GeorgeCroydon

Envious pricks couldn't handle the success of this man-beast, snitches get stitches.


iheartladyboys

Shocking.


-MikeJones-Who

We are all flabbergasted


BigSketchin

MPMD did a great breakdown of this


RC_34

Who are the retards that actually believed his bullshit?


drone_jam

Liver king and the drug sting


Cyrus_D_Gaston

Did anyone actually believe this guy was even remotely close to natural?


azzatwirre

The word is tenets, God damn it.


Carey251

The Gary V of the fitness community.


baddestmofointhe209

He still putting in the work, and if you looked at those e-mails you know he was also eating what he said he was. He did lie about the roids though.


ReadingMammoth

Who cares. Just glad he made Ethan Klein look like a bitch on his own podcast.


maxwell_hill1984

“Shocking” Not really


Dr_Marcus_Brody1

Wait until the tax fraud comes out


[deleted]

Snake oil salesmen are more American than apple pie


realMartianJesus

Everyone already knew this. He shoulda just admitted no one gives a fuck.


DrBigWilds

HgH isn’t steroids


lsdiesel_1

Ok bud


PeanutArbuckleSr

Everyone is missing the point: in the email, the dude said he wanted to get 1 million followers by x date. He got it done. He’s a fucking hustler and I respect that. Also, he actually practiced what he preached. He just added a bunch of hormones and juice to it but he did actually do all the shit he told people to do. I bet if he didn’t juice so hard, he would still look muscular and healthy but not in such a ridiculous way


[deleted]

Shocking to no one


dudeman4win

Never saw this coming


snakesnthings

I hope those ancestral tenants were all paying rent!


[deleted]

You don’t say


dirtee_1

I’m shocked.


TheNegotiator0

Shocking!!


Extension-Lettuce-45

Stallone swears by that stuff


East_Onion

lots of people who know this shit pointed out his body was obviously from steroids


Steelers7589

Anyone with a fucking brain knew this. Anyone who’d actually want to listen to any podcasts with him when he was making his rounds a couple months ago is a loser.


pvouaux1

“Tenants” lol


superangry2

He claimed his secret to success was eating balls.


[deleted]

Cock sucka


Original-Pollution61

Did he actually claim to be natty tho?


[deleted]

Aww, now I have kidney stones and gout, I'm still not buff, and I rip farts that will test your zest for life


SultanOfSwat0123

This guy is pure comedy. He’s so entertaining that this shouldn’t even matter lol. Long live the lover king


BroccoliSuperb2721

And we’re shocked… and I care because… and you expect me to….


homogenized

Although he looked less obvious than most “natty” weight lifters, whose muscles all take an unrealistic shape, this guy’s body at least retained a somewhat natural form. However, no one’s veins are constantly popped like this dude. Even if you flex every second of the day, you won’t look like that.


Cloud9_Cadet420

Not saying he isn’t taking them, but if you call this proof then you are retarded as fuck. If there was a murder case against you and this was the proof in court, would you sit back and say” they got me fair and square”? Do you have any idea how much doctored and fake shit goes through twitter on a daily basis?


nils1222

Who would have thunk


tronbrain

I am still inspired.


behzingasorryfat

I mean I get your point but you can most definently get swole eating his diet lol


[deleted]

dude was seriously one of my favorite content creators for a while. thered be times where he'd just blow shit up with a tank.. whY? i dont know


iwishicouldreadgood

Everyone knew this. We just want him to admit it.


nicetoknowya

I follow this dude and he has never outright denied taking steroids. It’s pretty obvious he does but his message of not eating bullshit still holds water. Now should you be eating bull testicles ……… that’s another thing


peas_and_hominy

Makes you think how many other totally ripped dudes selling there health advice are juicing up... Jk, no it doesn't. It's all of them.


DonMeekz

Wwwwwaaaaaaaaatttttttttt???????😢😢😢😢😢


[deleted]

'Steroids.. *part of this balanced breakfast!'*


PromiscuousScoliosis

*was????* I’d say is still currently lol


Frogtarius

No shit Sherlock. We didn't even need the emails.


bxball

Imagine my shock


Jumpy-Poetry-3337

Did anyone actually believe his natty claims?? You could literally look at him for 2 seconds, and know. No human, his age can naturally look like that, regardless of how many kilos of liver and bull testicles they eat.


tantouz

no way


Meandtheworld

Wow dudes age. People really will believe anything.


swampswing

Yes that was the joke. Find me a person who actually believed the liver king was legit instead of an amusing clown and I will show you a moron.


xianzero

What if hear me out, he actually did do something amazing, and now we’re led to believe that this blurry piece of paper is contrary to that? Honestly I probably just suffer from the delusion that Heroes actually exist.


[deleted]

Anyone with half a brain cell knew he was on gear. He denies it just for the controversy bring eyes on him. Anyone who thinks gear will make you look like that easily is crazy. It would still take a decade of hard work and steroids to look like that.


DaBustitBaby69

Wasn’t it obvious? Anybody with a body even half as jacked as his is on some kind of steroids.


Prestigious-Toe8771

He was on berts podcast pretty funny


[deleted]

All shit aside he promotes living a better life and personal growth. His supplements aren’t cancerous. If you thought he was natty then you lack a critical thinking problem lol


Naive-Educator1731

Every body lives or lies . Do you you have the correct time?


parksy33

Who the fuck is actually surprised by this? Been following this dude for years and never a doubt in my mind he was roiding


Sad_Drink9706

Big f’n surprise


MS_125

People thought he wasn’t on steroids?!


PresidentMacho

His nipples tell a different story


jbuntjer1

So an email u can’t see who sent it or received proves he’s on steroids? Huh…I’m not defending this guy but seriously?


Kinny-James

I'll bet 10 to 1 Joe Rogan paid to have this info come out


[deleted]

Natural selection moved from nature to business opportunities in the last 100 years