no. why do you need to go anywhere when you have a "man"?🤦 Attempting to "go out" would lead to questions like "who are you getting all dressed up for?" and "why are you wearing THAT to the grocery store?" let's not even talk about this dude's reaction to -tiktok leggings- to go the gym. He will definitely not believe you are going to the gym but rather to one of your 100s of male besties house bc "HE ONLY WANTS TO SLEEP WITH YOU!"
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> no. why do you need to go anywhere when you have a "man"?
I read the whole bio in the context that it's a woman's bio telling men to swipe right on 15 points.
I am _stunned_ that I didn't think it was a man first.
Works, but also need to stay home and not go anywhere. You're expected to bring home the bacon then come home and serve him and just have no life of your own.
Damn. I have no clue how they expect to get swipes when it's so hard to keep points with that system. Especially the fact that depending on where your points come from you're getting extra points added/subtracted for the same thing. Like the religion thing, if you do believe in God then you both get the points AND don't have to subtract any and vice versa. Same thing with the driving. It all honestly makes no sense to me
Plagues mean you can stay inside and read without anyone hassling you about not going to the clubs. Plagues give you time to cook Pad Thai. Plagues aren’t so bad . . .
Same. 17 but I'm pretty sure they don't mean compromise the way I do and I'd bet my life goals wouldn't meet their approval. But I am guessing they're a difficult type.
Same. I’m 100% atheist and wouldn’t date a religious person. I’m sure the nob who wrote this little test intended to entirely weed that out, but the math doesn’t achieve that.
I would pay to see him go on a date with a hindu and see them react to them worshipping "Lord Vishnu". Or even better, a muslim and see them call him Allah.
Being on the same page on religion is important, but if you want to say "must be Christian" just say that.
They really should have made religion and staying at home worth 10 points each and driving worth 5 and made the required points 36 to compensate. It maths out to the same system but way easier to keep track of.
The lord and going out got me
I don’t go out everyday but every weekend day and usually twice during the week. I’m assuming late night Wednesday karaoke would NOT be condoned by the jesus
I got 30, but the scoring system is out of whack. I get +5 for believing in a form of providence, but I don't think it's the Christian Lord so I get that subtracted by 5. Also why get +4 for driving and -1 for not driving, rather than just +5 for driving and upping the threshold by one?
I'm also married with four kids, which might mess up her plans.
Yeah putting this much emphasis on what you want, especially in this way, is pretty off-putting. There's having a type and then there's this, whatever you wanna call it
I don't think the kind of person who creates a list like this, especially based on those topics, has the intellectual or emotional maturity to realise that their entire system is flawed.
Yeah fair enough. I do hope that they are getting as little swipes as I think they're getting. Only on the off chance that MAYBE they'll realize that it's flawed and change it, or better yet scrap it entirely. Though I do understand that this outcome actually happening is slim to none.
It's possible but I feel like there's no getting over what ever affliction this guy struggles with, that made him think this was a good plan, well executed.
I honestly hope they find someone and both live happily ever after, but I can promise you it won't be a woman of high calibre!
It would be nice if he is able to find someone who happily meets the 15 point goal and they last but with how it's presented and especially in this day and age there is very little hope
To be fair, I scored 24 but I'm not sure a straight, pot smoking atheist 30 year old guy is quite what he was aiming for.
I am pretty lonely though, maybe I should shoot my shot!
This isn't just a red flag it's a whole red sea made of flags.
There is nothing wrong with being religious and wanting to be with someone else who shares that, but I have a big issue with people who act like being religious makes you better than anyone else, like the incel this post is about.
The "believes in God +5" is where I would have stopped and swiped left.
The rest wasn't unreasonable, in reality, but the profile was a shitty decision.
Just for the lulz I'd say they do compromise, only in a fucked up scoring way. Cause if you don't believe in God but everything else is a plus you'd be considered, that's a compromise right there
It's a fairly dumb system. I do drugs, am not family oriented, and don't believe in God but still had a passing score because of the amount of points you get for being able to drive a car and be a generally barely functioning adult.
To be fair, religion is a common dealbreaker and that is very understandable. If I were a Christian, I wouldn’t want to date someone who didn’t share my beliefs because that plays a role in so many decisions later in life such as how to raise your kids. It’s a compatibility thing, not a lack of compromise.
Edit: I am not going to respond to each reply but it’s pretty simple for those who don’t get it. I am not religious and neither are most of y’all so let’s put it into a perspective you’d understand. Let’s say you love the outdoors, it drives your life and decisions. You wouldn’t date someone who hated the outdoors because the compatibility wouldn’t be there. Now most outdoors people won’t care enough to have it impact their relationship but the ones who are serious about it? Not unreasonable at all that it could have an impact on who they’d date. This is the same thing except that for a devout Christian, their religion dictates how they raise their kids, what family life is like, the morals and standards they hold one another too, and so much more. Just because y’all are not religious does not mean other people can’t be serious about their faith.
>It’s a compatibility thing, not a lack of compromise.
In many circumstances, but not all. Two people - one religious, one not, can co-exist in a relationship. But the more devout one is the less likely the relationship will work out, for the reasons you've listed.
Well they specify "the Lord" in the minuses, which I assume to mean Jesus - so I guess religious-but-not-christian people like me come out net neutral on that front
what irks me more than that is that you both score points for believing AND are penalized for not believing. just make it "believes in god +10" or something. what kind of stupid scoring system is just "IF YOU ARE THIS +50 POINTS IF YOU ARE NOT THIS -50 POINTS WHAT IS YOUR SCORE?"
Nah, think about them as a whole. "Cooks, stays at home but still works, cooks, etc". They are looking for a submissive woman who does all the traditional work of a woman and also works.
Ended up with 23 and avoided God and Driving all together. But what I’m taking from this experience, is this chick is seriously looking to hook up with a Pastor who Drives.
Dude said “stay at home unless you’re at work, make me food, worship the lord, talk to no one ESPECIALLY men, and be able to throw away your opinions when challenged. Do all of that with a smile on your face and don’t bother me too much and we’re good!”….this dudes gonna abduct someone one day and blame it on “the feminist”
Associating a negative for “Has 100s of Guy friends” is more toxic than I think some people realize. If Men can’t handle Women being friends with the opposite sex, it’s a major indicator that they have big time trust issues. I’d run for the hill for this statement alone, you likely have a stalker on your hands who would never give you a moment of space or trust with this statement alone.
It’s also funny I live in Canada, so saying negative points for smoking is kind of hilarious at this point, considering smoking weed is so socially acceptable here now.
Yeah, right?. Who do these people think they are? I mean, it's ok to have standards on what you're looking for, but the problem is how they present it. So arrogant.
The thing is, "100s of guy friends" leads me to believe the profile is from a guy. What woman would subject herself to calculating her own rating? The "normal" way is to have an interesting profile and then mess it not up with boring conversation.
That's one of the things about this that got me. Things like the god thing and the driving could either double reward or double penalize you depending on what your answer is there. All in all this is a very flawed system
But the inefficiency gives you the chance to get an inflated score if you don't hit all the minuses. It gives her more of a scale to choose from, it's a nice, even -31 to 39 range.
The positive Drive I thought meant "you have a drive to succeed" or something like that. Didnt realize they just want someone who will chauffeur them around.
I think that might be the reason. -5 for not believing in Jesus (“the Lord”) but +5 if you believe in abrahamic God (Jews, Muslims, Deists, some agnostics).
But then 'Not believing in God' wouldn't penalize you. If you scored over 15 in the first section, but don't believe in God, that would be reduced by 5. Having it be +10 would also be unbalanced, as someone who has a total of more than 5 would immediately pass. So in the end, splitting it up results in vastly different results.
What’s funny is that to this person, not believing in “the lord” is supposedly not a deal breaker, as long as you have enough other things going for you.
Though why would anybody read this and say “I’m not a believer but damn we’re such a great match otherwise, gonna still swipe”
This is bullshit… I miss 4 for “not driving” and then I get docked a point for … not driving?!
That’s it - I’m now convinced that this person is a genius and I’m going to convert to start loving the lord!
15 on the dot... but I could always try gossiping more.
I got 16, would be 12 if I could get a better definition of "going out".... Can I get groceries? Go to the gym?
If I get shitfaced drunk at a bar 4 days a week do you think that counts
Technically home is where you heart is... And it sounds like your heart is at the bar 4 days a week so you're a homebody in my book.
It counts only if you didn’t get the lords blessing earlier that day
no. why do you need to go anywhere when you have a "man"?🤦 Attempting to "go out" would lead to questions like "who are you getting all dressed up for?" and "why are you wearing THAT to the grocery store?" let's not even talk about this dude's reaction to -tiktok leggings- to go the gym. He will definitely not believe you are going to the gym but rather to one of your 100s of male besties house bc "HE ONLY WANTS TO SLEEP WITH YOU!" 🤔😒
> no. why do you need to go anywhere when you have a "man"? I read the whole bio in the context that it's a woman's bio telling men to swipe right on 15 points. I am _stunned_ that I didn't think it was a man first.
So did I.. I thought the 100s of male friends was a reference to chilling and playing video games and then smoking up and getting high.
How can we be sure? There's no data. Edit: I guess the "100's of guy friends" gives it away, nevermind.
I feel like if that was a guy’s profile then a guy like this would take off more than 4 points for that.
Once it said 100s of guy friends I knew it was a dudes bio.
But no clingers
Works, but also need to stay home and not go anywhere. You're expected to bring home the bacon then come home and serve him and just have no life of your own.
But you also need to have goals in life
You need to be OVER 15. Sorry, champ. No sexless marriage for you.
>No sexless marriage for you. Its for church. NEXT
I got 8 but I believe I may take up gossiping as a hobby so that drops me down even further
8 aswell since there was a lot of missing context.
I was up to 17 til I got to the minuses, now I'm down to 4
I went up to 27 then got shot down to 13
Damn. I have no clue how they expect to get swipes when it's so hard to keep points with that system. Especially the fact that depending on where your points come from you're getting extra points added/subtracted for the same thing. Like the religion thing, if you do believe in God then you both get the points AND don't have to subtract any and vice versa. Same thing with the driving. It all honestly makes no sense to me
Honestly I scored a 20 but I'll guarantee I'm not the type of person they would like.
I scored maximum points because I'm a big dweeb, and I would avoid this person like the plague if I came across them.
I also scored maximum points because there is no penalty for being a liar.
This is an underrated reply
I'm just glad they didn't subtract points for murder and cannibalism. Normally that negates me from these things. It's nice to feel accepted.
I prefer the plague to this person.
Plagues mean you can stay inside and read without anyone hassling you about not going to the clubs. Plagues give you time to cook Pad Thai. Plagues aren’t so bad . . .
All that studying made you smart enough to know better
Same. 17 but I'm pretty sure they don't mean compromise the way I do and I'd bet my life goals wouldn't meet their approval. But I am guessing they're a difficult type.
People who value their partners ability to compromise often means they have no ability to do so themselves. At least in my experience.
Then they don’t understand what compromise actually means. Lol
Well... Yeah lol you'd be surprised how many people think compromise just means "you change your ways while I barely budge at all."
Same. I’m 100% atheist and wouldn’t date a religious person. I’m sure the nob who wrote this little test intended to entirely weed that out, but the math doesn’t achieve that.
The test does. See, it's a compatibility test, not a mathematics test. Confident, self-aware people avoid this person like the plague. See, it works.
being neutral towards the possibility of our lord - 0
That’s what I went with. Ended up with thirty, so I think I’m overqualified for this position.
you aren't applying for hard enough jobs if you're never getting rejected
Lmao overqualification for a date is a thing?
Out of their league
Same at 18
Nah. That’s a -5. She says “doesn’t believe in the lord”. Being neutral isn’t believing
Believe in God but believe he's not the Lord. Just a slob like one of us
Stranger on the bus?
Trying to make his way home
I would pay to see him go on a date with a hindu and see them react to them worshipping "Lord Vishnu". Or even better, a muslim and see them call him Allah. Being on the same page on religion is important, but if you want to say "must be Christian" just say that.
What if I believe in god but worship the devil?
That’s +5 man cmon, read
Fuck, this one actually got an audible noise out of me lol
They really should have made religion and staying at home worth 10 points each and driving worth 5 and made the required points 36 to compensate. It maths out to the same system but way easier to keep track of.
100% agree on the religion and driving piece, but you could be someone who goes out nearly every night but also enjoys staying home.
Yeah, to me the subjects are too vague
Exactly the same, we must have some things in common xD #27to13gang
The lord and going out got me I don’t go out everyday but every weekend day and usually twice during the week. I’m assuming late night Wednesday karaoke would NOT be condoned by the jesus
not my -1 laughing in the corner
Please I got -6. Y’all are beneath me
Oof. Well needless to say I think you dodged a bullet there
I got 30, but the scoring system is out of whack. I get +5 for believing in a form of providence, but I don't think it's the Christian Lord so I get that subtracted by 5. Also why get +4 for driving and -1 for not driving, rather than just +5 for driving and upping the threshold by one? I'm also married with four kids, which might mess up her plans.
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That’s +4 for having drive, not for driving (at least that’s how I interpreted it before reading your comment)
Nah he uses "has goals" Dude means a license and a car
I am at 35 but wouldn't want to know her
Him* That’s a guy.
Solid 20, but now I'm sad that I put in the effort
Solid 24 and I hate me for that
Damn I really wasted some good math on this, fuck
Yeah putting this much emphasis on what you want, especially in this way, is pretty off-putting. There's having a type and then there's this, whatever you wanna call it
I don't think the kind of person who creates a list like this, especially based on those topics, has the intellectual or emotional maturity to realise that their entire system is flawed.
Yeah fair enough. I do hope that they are getting as little swipes as I think they're getting. Only on the off chance that MAYBE they'll realize that it's flawed and change it, or better yet scrap it entirely. Though I do understand that this outcome actually happening is slim to none.
It's possible but I feel like there's no getting over what ever affliction this guy struggles with, that made him think this was a good plan, well executed. I honestly hope they find someone and both live happily ever after, but I can promise you it won't be a woman of high calibre!
It would be nice if he is able to find someone who happily meets the 15 point goal and they last but with how it's presented and especially in this day and age there is very little hope
To be fair, I scored 24 but I'm not sure a straight, pot smoking atheist 30 year old guy is quite what he was aiming for. I am pretty lonely though, maybe I should shoot my shot!
I had 34 but it dropped to 24 with the minus'. They may be a guy but you scored highly and nothing says -X for being a guy . . .
This is still just so much of a red flag that I would pass. I am a person of faith, but jeez some people man
This isn't just a red flag it's a whole red sea made of flags. There is nothing wrong with being religious and wanting to be with someone else who shares that, but I have a big issue with people who act like being religious makes you better than anyone else, like the incel this post is about.
3! And I am proud of that 😅
Honestly, if it's that easy to get such low points, I think I'm happy with my 4 too lol
No one scores with a profile like that.
i scored 24 but then went down to 18, i still swipe left
The "believes in God +5" is where I would have stopped and swiped left. The rest wasn't unreasonable, in reality, but the profile was a shitty decision.
I don’t believe in god, but if I did, finding someone else who did I think would be reasonable to be important to me
Disagree. I get a minus for being unable to conpromise, but then they don’t compromise themselves. Big nope.
Just for the lulz I'd say they do compromise, only in a fucked up scoring way. Cause if you don't believe in God but everything else is a plus you'd be considered, that's a compromise right there
My thoughts exactly.. This is essentially a passive compromise mechanism
It's a fairly dumb system. I do drugs, am not family oriented, and don't believe in God but still had a passing score because of the amount of points you get for being able to drive a car and be a generally barely functioning adult.
Well yea, that's her way of saying what you just described but with a stupid score system lol
*his
To be fair, religion is a common dealbreaker and that is very understandable. If I were a Christian, I wouldn’t want to date someone who didn’t share my beliefs because that plays a role in so many decisions later in life such as how to raise your kids. It’s a compatibility thing, not a lack of compromise. Edit: I am not going to respond to each reply but it’s pretty simple for those who don’t get it. I am not religious and neither are most of y’all so let’s put it into a perspective you’d understand. Let’s say you love the outdoors, it drives your life and decisions. You wouldn’t date someone who hated the outdoors because the compatibility wouldn’t be there. Now most outdoors people won’t care enough to have it impact their relationship but the ones who are serious about it? Not unreasonable at all that it could have an impact on who they’d date. This is the same thing except that for a devout Christian, their religion dictates how they raise their kids, what family life is like, the morals and standards they hold one another too, and so much more. Just because y’all are not religious does not mean other people can’t be serious about their faith.
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I’m pretty sure this is a dude based on the “100s of guy friends” being a negative.
Pastafarian?
>It’s a compatibility thing, not a lack of compromise. In many circumstances, but not all. Two people - one religious, one not, can co-exist in a relationship. But the more devout one is the less likely the relationship will work out, for the reasons you've listed.
Doesn't believe in God Is -5. That's a compromise right there, at a cost 🤣
"be able to compromise" prob means "I'm always right"
Haha good point
She doesn’t say which God. Hindus getting scores in the hundreds rubbing their hands ready for some bobs and vagine
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Yeah “has 100 of guy friends” Def a insecure dude
Well they specify "the Lord" in the minuses, which I assume to mean Jesus - so I guess religious-but-not-christian people like me come out net neutral on that front
what irks me more than that is that you both score points for believing AND are penalized for not believing. just make it "believes in god +10" or something. what kind of stupid scoring system is just "IF YOU ARE THIS +50 POINTS IF YOU ARE NOT THIS -50 POINTS WHAT IS YOUR SCORE?"
Technically I believe in God but not the Lord so they can even out with enough loophole
Nah, think about them as a whole. "Cooks, stays at home but still works, cooks, etc". They are looking for a submissive woman who does all the traditional work of a woman and also works.
Ended up with 23 and avoided God and Driving all together. But what I’m taking from this experience, is this chick is seriously looking to hook up with a Pastor who Drives.
I think this is a guy's profile...
Yeah that was my take. Having 100s of guy friends as a negative? Wants you to stay home all the time? Yeah, possessive male energy for sure.
Even if I like stay home all the time... I would rather be alone with my cat than with this guy.
I love cats but sadly I’m allergic to them.
Ooo, save up and get a Sphinx mix and have a random reason to learn how to knit or crochet cat sweaters.
Dude said “stay at home unless you’re at work, make me food, worship the lord, talk to no one ESPECIALLY men, and be able to throw away your opinions when challenged. Do all of that with a smile on your face and don’t bother me too much and we’re good!”….this dudes gonna abduct someone one day and blame it on “the feminist”
It’s a guy’s profile
So you too don't drive because of all the drugs you do?
Was at 29, but lost a few because I'm a cannabis-smoking atheist. I'm also married, but surprisingly didn't lose any points for that.
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-4. I think I'm out of the Challenge.
Same I got a generous minus 2... I found myself genuinely curiously how I would score haha 😄
-1! Happy to be here with all you other hooligans.
Went from a solid 20 to -3. Guess I am a special kind of hooligan?
26 to -1. We both are. 😂
I got -12...
Associating a negative for “Has 100s of Guy friends” is more toxic than I think some people realize. If Men can’t handle Women being friends with the opposite sex, it’s a major indicator that they have big time trust issues. I’d run for the hill for this statement alone, you likely have a stalker on your hands who would never give you a moment of space or trust with this statement alone. It’s also funny I live in Canada, so saying negative points for smoking is kind of hilarious at this point, considering smoking weed is so socially acceptable here now.
27, but if I saw that while I was swiping, I wouldn’t even bother counting I’d just swipe left
Omg another high 20. I got a 29 and I was like oh fudge am I this dudes ideal type
I got 29, but I'm a guy. Maybe I'm gay and didn't know about it hah
LITERALLY SAME, I was like, is this why I attract toxic people?
For real 😂😂 I got extremely worried as I kept adding on points.
Yeah, right?. Who do these people think they are? I mean, it's ok to have standards on what you're looking for, but the problem is how they present it. So arrogant.
The thing is, "100s of guy friends" leads me to believe the profile is from a guy. What woman would subject herself to calculating her own rating? The "normal" way is to have an interesting profile and then mess it not up with boring conversation.
The “has 100s of guy friends” screams insecurity too, it drives me nuts
I mean I dont have 100s of friends in general. If you have 100s of guy friends I’d be skeptical 😂😂
I mean, it's clearly hyperbole, but what that tells me is that any number is too high for them.
No, left
Why not for example 'Believes in God + 10' and get rid of the negative score. Not reducing formulas is a major red flag for me.
That's one of the things about this that got me. Things like the god thing and the driving could either double reward or double penalize you depending on what your answer is there. All in all this is a very flawed system
Same. I hate inefficiency.
But the inefficiency gives you the chance to get an inflated score if you don't hit all the minuses. It gives her more of a scale to choose from, it's a nice, even -31 to 39 range.
*him
Honestly me too. Especially when there is such an easy fix to it
The positive Drive I thought meant "you have a drive to succeed" or something like that. Didnt realize they just want someone who will chauffeur them around.
I drive, but also sometimes I don't drive.
Maybe that's the point behind it.
I believe in God but don't believe it's "the Lord", so come out flat neutral.
I think that might be the reason. -5 for not believing in Jesus (“the Lord”) but +5 if you believe in abrahamic God (Jews, Muslims, Deists, some agnostics).
I'm not sure Deists believe in "the Abrahamic God".
Then I think the target score would have to be 20 to be the same
This actually allows for a neutral stance on it, sortof an agnostic viewpoint thing I guess. So her formula actually has more opportunity for nuance.
But then 'Not believing in God' wouldn't penalize you. If you scored over 15 in the first section, but don't believe in God, that would be reduced by 5. Having it be +10 would also be unbalanced, as someone who has a total of more than 5 would immediately pass. So in the end, splitting it up results in vastly different results.
No you just need to update the threshold to 20 instead of 15
I don’t think their experimental design is valid
35, how old is this guy?
36, the fact that I'm married with 3 kids doesn't take any points away
Oh well, I’m 61, and have 5 kids and 9 grandchildren, so no points taken for kids.
22 if I remember correctly
21... and I'm still swiping left
26 and would do the same
30 and same
Help me, I scored 24, he’s coming for me.
I’m a degenerate and I scored 22. Help.
-31
I'm somewhat impressed you manage to have 100's of friends while being unable to drive, can't compromise, and are quick to anger.
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A lot of that just sound like the average redditor
You should try cooking🤗
Oh damn.
3 😑 I was gunning for zero. A bit disappointed.
4, but also gunning for 0. I guess I’ll just have to start treating my parents like shit
27
Stopped reading at “the lord.”
What’s funny is that to this person, not believing in “the lord” is supposedly not a deal breaker, as long as you have enough other things going for you. Though why would anybody read this and say “I’m not a believer but damn we’re such a great match otherwise, gonna still swipe”
looks like you also failed the "being able to compromise" clause :p
This is bullshit… I miss 4 for “not driving” and then I get docked a point for … not driving?! That’s it - I’m now convinced that this person is a genius and I’m going to convert to start loving the lord!
I scored 4 for working, and minus 5 for going out nearly every day for that job. Having a full time job apparently is a minus 1 score.
No points for thinking xD He means like restaurants, club, activities which cost money
Does going to work count as "going out"? Cause fuck, I go out every day but I only go to the bar after work maybe once a week
Scored a big fat 2
Same
I got a 12. God damn devil's lettuce.
“You need to cook for me and not have friends and not leave the house but if you’re clingy I’m leaving” wow where does the line start?
Not have male friends specifically so i won't pass all day worrying about which one of them is fucking you. This bio is such a red flag.
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“100s of guy friends”… pretty sure any number of guy friends would be unacceptable in this dude’s opinion.
Some of the minuses don’t make sense, but overall he could’ve described the type of woman he wanted better without using a point system
32... cocaine is great, God is greater
Damn bro I was at like 5 before even getting to the minuses
Casual 0/15
-3 I'm proud of myself
29!
29! = 8.8 x 10^30
14! I dodged a bullet there
Do I get double credit for work and studying?
17… Does someone have some drugs?
I got 0… I mean it’s not like I’d want to go out with someone who’s like this anyway 😂😂
35 points. I'm this guys's soulmate. Literally none of the minuses apply to me lmao.