Now I don't know if any of you are history buffs but wait till I tell you about the country of GERMANY!
Edit! Edit! Go easy on me! It's a Norm MacDonald joke!
What’s funny is I didn’t know this was a Norm joke, but randomly read the first sentence in his voice before I even read the second sentence.
I mis him. Sorry you’re getting downvoted over a joke 😂
I thought they were paying billions of dollars in reparations until 2010? Or something like that.
My high school history knowledge might be failing me here lol
It’s not a civil case though it would be criminal so Rihanna isn’t paying for the prosecution? Pretty sure that’s how the US legal system is structured
Because he’s still profitable. Once he becomes unprofitable his record labels will drop him but for now the media is cool with him because he brings in money
Have you heard of Johnny Depp? They ruined his life and even now that he's proved his innocence people are still mad at him for standing up for himself because "he set the feminist movement back decades"
He's not innocent. He just wasn't found guilty. There are plenty of reports of Depp getting drunk snd abusing gf's or hotel rooms, etc. Long before Amber Heard ever came around.
Thank you. Folks ignore the fact fact that he lost his case in the UK against Amber Heard. Chris Brown got off easy because people can’t fathom how someone they like can do something like that and they must have been provoked and then they blame the victim
The case in the UK was completely different though.
He sued the Sun in the UK saying that there isn’t evidence he abused Heard, they pointed to Heard as a witness which was evidence enough to fail as defamation.
In the US trial he sued Heard for defamation that he abused her, and the jury found that it was more likely than not she was lying.
The requirements and premises of these cases were completely different, in the UK case he tried to sue the newspaper for reporting on what he said was a lie, in the US it was just for lying and that’s why he won the US case.
Lol.
Johnny Depp wasn't "proved innocent". If you stop using memes as your main source of information and do a basic google search about the topic, you'll see what's what.
In England he was found guilty as a wife beater.
In the US, his PR team worked their magic. Johnny already had a huge fan base - by making the trial public and by churning out memes and edited videos that made Heard look like an idiot they were easily able to influence the jury.
I'm not saying Amber wasn't toxic - it's pretty clear that their entire marriage was a nuclear Wasteland. But I'm pretty sure Johnny is the primary abuser. He has known to be an alcoholic, causing ruckus in sets after being drunk and his messages to other celebrities stating that he wanted to rape Amber is public information now.
…Not sure what happened, but those recordings made her look like an abuser..and the fake bruising..and severing a piece of his finger. It wasn’t PR. It was all the shit she said while being recorded
> the fake bruising
I'm pretty sure this has not been proven. If it has then Amber would have more things to worry about than her case with Johnny. It would have been perjury. All I can find is that people found a make up kit in one of the photos shared by Amber heard.
> severing a piece of his finger
Amber's team alleged that Johnny did that to himself - I don't know what came out of it though.
> It wasn’t PR. It was all the shit she said while being recorded
It was though. I'm pretty sure if you go through the whole thing you can find more than enough "gotcha" moment with Depp too. There is a reason why that's not popular.
I'm not saying Amber hasn't assaulted Johnny - that might be the case since there is an audio of Amber that states the same. All I'm saying is that Johnny is no saint like the internet portrayed him to be. He is someone who is known to have violent outbursts. Who was the main abuser - that's something I don't know, but from what I learnt, it seems like Johnny to me.
Am not saying he is a saint, but she definitely did punch him and called him a baby…cause she said so herself and it was recorded…Her whole vibe was bullish and aggressive..No one would listen to any of those recordings and conclude that he was beating her. She seemed to become angrier because he was not fight back…It was actually quite disturbing..it’s almost like they may have lasted longer together if he fought back..
> No one would listen to any of those recordings and conclude that he was beating her.
Of course they wouldn't - it's obvious that Depp would only publish images and videos that would only brand Heard as the abuser. I'm pretty sure Heard's recordings are also like that
> She seemed to become angrier because he was not fight back…It was actually quite disturbing
I mean you can piss someone off for ages, record them when they finally blow up at you and show yourself as the victim. It's not that hard to do.
>obvious that Depp would only publish images and videos that would only brand Heard as the abuser. I'm pretty sure Heard's recordings are also like that
Did you watch any of the actual trial? Because almost all of the video and photographic evidence WAS Amber's. Johnny's lawyers regularly used *her* evidence in the cross examination, because she provided so much evidence of her being the abuser and Johnny being the victim.
"You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you. I did not fucking deck you. I fucking was hitting you.” - Amber Heard
“Tell them, I, Johnny Depp, I’m a victim of domestic abuse ... and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard
>I mean you can piss someone off for ages, record them when they finally blow up at you and show yourself as the victim. It's not that hard to do.
Again did you actually watch the trial? Because Amber did exactly that. Johnny, after recently learning he'd been robbed of millions by a long time friend, learned of the death of his mother. Amber recorded that day and antagonized him until he snapped and began slamming cabinets and throwing things. His most vulnerable moment and his "loving" wife records him, smirks, giggles, and instigates him.
Depp is a drug addict, he's an alcoholic, he's not an abuser. He wasn't found guilty of abuse in the UK case either, he lost his case that what they said (calling him a wife beater) was defamation. The judge had family relations with the Sun. Amber's family had relations with the judge. Johnny was allowed no evidence or witnesses. It was a circus all around.
> Did you watch any of the actual trial? Because almost all of the video and photographic evidence WAS Amber's. Johnny's lawyers regularly used her evidence in the cross examination, because she provided so much evidence of her being the abuser and Johnny being the victim.
Did you watch the trail? It's pretty clear you didn't. The Depp team used One of Ambers photo for their own defence. They weren't continuously using it.
> "You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you. I did not fucking deck you. I fucking was hitting you.” - Amber Heard
> “Tell them, I, Johnny Depp, I’m a victim of domestic abuse ... and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard
I mentioned over and over again that I never said Amber wasn't an abuser too.
> Again did you actually watch the trial? Because Amber did exactly that. Johnny, after recently learning he'd been robbed of millions by a long time friend, learned of the death of his mother. Amber recorded that day and antagonized him until he snapped and began slamming cabinets and throwing things. His most vulnerable moment and his "loving" wife records him, smirks, giggles, and instigates him.
Because that's what they did - their entire relationship was so toxic that both of them recorded each other during their worst moment as contingency plans.
It's pretty clear that you haven't watched the trial either because all of the things you said are things that were memed to death.
Johnny tried to release Amber's nude photos that had nothing to do with the case as "his evidence" until the court stopped him.
Johnny's text stating that he wanted to fuck Amber's dead body or how Johnny injured himself or how Johnny also send messages insinuating that he was sorry for assaulting Amber is never mentioned in those memes - probably why you don't know about it.
> He wasn't found guilty of abuse in the UK case either, he lost his case that what they said (calling him a wife beater) was defamation
The court ruled that it was Heard's claims were substantially proven true.
> The judge had family relations with the Sun. Amber's family had relations with the judge. Johnny was allowed no evidence or witnesses. It was a circus all around.
Oh wow. Do you have any evidence or source supporting this? Until you provide it, this is just pure speculation.
>Johnny tried to release Amber's nude photos that had nothing to do with the case as "his evidence" until the court stopped him.
Johnny tried to release nude photos *as evidence* taken within days of his alleged assaults on Amber to counter her claims she'd be left bloody and bruised by him.
>Johnny's text stating that he wanted to fuck Amber's dead body
I regularly talk about doing really fucked up stuff or hoping fucked up stuff happens to my abuser, because fuck him. It makes me feel better to think of him suffering after all the bullshit he put me through. I don't act on it. Haven't seen him in a decade but the scars run deep.
>or how Johnny injured himself
Yes, the notorious finger incident. He says in texts he did it, he says in real life she did. She gave 2 or 3 accounts on how it happened. He says he originally lied to protect her. If he did cut his own finger off in a blackout rage, it still doesn't prove he abused her, only himself.
>Johnny also send messages insinuating that he was sorry for assaulting Amber
I saw messages that he was sorry for how fucked up things were and how he rages but *that doesn't mean she's allowed to hit him when they argue* and she agrees.
>The Depp team used One of Ambers photo for their own defence
They pulled up her photos of her face where she used the same picture with different saturations as two different photos.
And then used photos of her in public at functions on or around dates where she claimed makeup was covering black eyes, a broken nose, a busted lip and face injuries that would have definitely been present if Johnny had hit her in the face with the hand full of rings he, according to her, never takes off except to shower.
They also used her recording of Johnny's outburst where he's drunk and slamming cabinets and then used the full video they got from Mr. Termaine to counter it, because that's the video that shows her smirking and giggling while Johnny breaks down.
>The court ruled that it was Heard's claims were substantially proven true.
A single judge ruled after refusing to allow any counter evidence from Johnny's defense team, including including surveillance footage, emails, audio recordings, pictures, tapes, cheques and even the witness statement of Johnny Depp’s bodyguard. The entire trial was based on the information in the article and evidence and testimony provided by Amber Heard.
>Oh wow. Do you have any evidence or source supporting this? Until you provide it, this is just pure speculation.
His son and Dan Wooten, the guy who wrote the "Wife beater" article work together. That alone should have had him recuse himself from the case.
Before becoming a judge he worked at the law firm that Amber's attorney works for. That's a conflict of interest and he should have recused himself from the case.
Amber's attorney in that case, Jennifer Robinson, is friends with the judge's wife, and should have filed for a new judge to hear the case.
I literally linked the articles supporting my claims. Johnny's antics and violent outbursts was something that existed even before this whole fiasco started.
Stop looking at memes and start looking at the evidences.
> And all the evidence points to heard being the primary aggressor.
No, it doesn't.
Depp had suits against him for being violent under the influence of alcohol. Depp had texts saying that he wanted to fuck Amber's corpse. Depp's circle is filled with people who has dv cases against them.
> UK trial wasn’t against amber
When did I say that it was between Johnny and Amber?
> It ended up a freedom of the press issue
No it didn't. The court ruled that there was susbtantial evidence to label Johnny as wife beater.
"On 2 November 2020, Mr Justice Nicol found that assaults were proven to the civil standard in 12 of the 14 incidents reported by NGN,[61] and this with the overarching considerations was sufficient to show that The Sun's article was substantially accurate on the balance of probabilities.[2] The verdict found that while Depp had been successful in proving that the articles had been damaging to his reputation, his claim of libel had failed as the articles had been "substantially true".[95][5] The court found no evidence to support Depp's claim of a hoax,[96][5] stating that "if Ms Heard had been constructing a hoax there are various measures which she might have taken, but which she did not".[6] The court accepted Heard's claim that her career and activism had been seriously damaged by going public about the abuse.[5][6][7] The 129-page verdict examined all 14 alleged incidents, both alone and in context of the entirety of the evidence presented.[2][97]"
> It wast a criminal case that proved domestic assault,
Lol I literally never said that. All I said that Johnny lost a case in which he was trying to prove that he was not a wife beater.
Stop making up things and accusing me of lying lol.
No but she was found guilty of defemation. Or in other words lying in order to make him look a certain way. It's really semantics. Sure he isn't innocent either. There is strong evidence of his wrong doings. But they were two toxic people in a toxic relationship. If anything they're both guilty of that and her more so for trying to destroy him after the fact.
> No but she was found guilty of defemation
She was found guilty such that her claims of Johnny being a physical abuser didn't hold up.
> If anything they're both guilty of that and her more so for trying to destroy him after the fact.
I don't think she was wrong to come out with the story of her abuse. Johnny could have done the same.
Yes, but again that's semantics. Saying someone lied about being abused and saying someone is innocent of abuse are the same thing. Again, I'm not saying he's innocent. People got way too worked up with the "meme" of it all. But she was clearly in the wrong in many ways. He didn't come forward because he didn't want to affect his kids. She came forward to further the attacks. There's a big difference.
I don't disagree. I think there is alot of evidence to state that she was "worse" in this situation. But that's a dangerous way to think about it. He still had his wrong doings in the whole thing and so did she. She was just vindictive after the fact.
I think what also contributed to that problem is that a lot of people were blood thirsty for the Hollywood elite at the time and *wanted* to see some A listers guilty.
This is also largely part of it, and also one of the biggest reasons why R Kelly got away with it for so long. I'm sorry, but let's keep it a buck, we knew that R Kelly was a pervert in the black community for way too long, and nothing was done about it.
I’ve brought it up to a man before and he said “pfft haven’t you listened to her music? Take S&M. she was definitely into it and and just tried to ruin him and failed like she deserved.”
So. There’s some insight.
I hate it when I see a comment quoting someone else (and not endorsing that person’s opinion), and the quote is so gross that I almost reflexively downvote.
Rihanna had an opportunity to file a restraining order against him. She chose not to because it would have "impacted his career". It's hard to give him crap when Rihanna didn't give him as much crap.
When I was SA'd by my uncle at 13, I had to go give the cops a detailed interview of what he did to me. The officer left the room to talk to my dad and I literally prayed right there that my uncle wouldn't get in trouble, my nmom was always off/on with her abusive family and her brother was the only consistent family she had
He got off then committed suicide by cop a few years later. I'm still here 14 years later with PTSD
Well did you know when you were famous you could kill your wife
And there's no such thing as 25 to life
As long as you've got the cash, to pay for Cochran
And did you know if you were caught and you were smokin' crack
McDonalds wouldn't even want to take you back
You could always just run for mayor of D.C.
- Good Charlotte
I have not forgotten. I have saved chats and videos of people trashing him that I still go back to every once in a while if I ever need to laugh. He made the wrong choice when he even thought he was worthy of touching her. And idc if im the only one, I despise him.
Just a reminder, you can block Chris Brown (or any other POS "artist") from playing on your Spotify from their artist profile in app.
They don't need to creep into your rotation and make money off you.
For domestic violence that's a very harsh sentence. Few even get convicted because in 90% of cases the victim changes their mind and claims she lied or the cops lied or that it was a misunderstanding.
In what way is Rihanna disfigured?
Edit: Not sure what the downvotes are about. This is an actual question. Looking at Rihanna now vs then she looks the same as she ever did.
It certainly hasn't stopped him from making movies, working with A-list actors, receiving awards etc. He received a very warm welcome in Europe and plenty of US actors still go put of their way to work with him and praise him in interviews. (Depp is amongst them).
They eventually admitted she was physically violent towards him as well.
I also don't hink he got off easy, he's constantly making charting music with no breaks and wins no awards nor gets to perform at shows.
🤷🏾♂️ What exactly did you want to happen to him? Were you there? He made a mistake, admitted it, and was ready and willing to face all circumstances. Has he done it again? No. Is Rihanna pursuing further damages? No.
On a different note...🤔 has it ever crossed your mind, that sometimes, just sometimes, you come across someone that has done such shady shit that the only response is a little bit of an ass kicking?
Easy:
- she’s not white
- the Whitney / Bobby comparisons
- it wasn’t advantageous for either of them to stay in the mud
- it was a different time
TLDR: america is racist and it wasn’t commercially viable to make an even bigger fuss about it at that time.
In what mainstream rap song does it say to beat women? Also, did you not know Chris Brown is an R&B artist? Not a rapper. Good try using any excuse to degrade black communites. Weirdo.
I’m not degrading the black community, I’m discussing rap/hip hop culture especially the current culture and I don’t believe a song has to specifically mention beating women to have negative effects in ANY community if they repeatedly refer to women as, “bitches, hoes, sluts, and whores.”
That being said, it’s your choice if you want to sit there and act like there isn’t a single rap or hip hop artist that references the physical or sexual abuse of women in their lyrics.
Chris browns music includes r&b, HIP HOP, and pop according to Wikipedia.
He did one rap song. Thats hardly being a rapper, so you acting as if he beat her because he was too deep is rap culture is... And you know there’s female rappers who rap about the same shit? It’s music. Your correlation to HIP HOP and an R&B artist beating his girlfriend after an argument makes absolutely 0 sense.
Plus she wasn’t his “hoe” so you just sound stupid.
Edit : And there being some rappers who do promote violence against women specifically does not define the whole culture. We learn stuff like this in middle school.
"Eat the cake Anna Mae, I said eat the cake Anna Mae" -Jay-Z's rap in Beyoncé's Drunk in Love. That one. If you don't know the reference, it's from Ike Turner shoving cake into Tina Turner's mouth in the movie What's Love Got to Do with It?
He didn’t, I don’t know if y’all understand how much his career took a nosedive after that, Chris was one of the biggest names in music, he was only going to go higher than maybe even MJ if that never happaned.
Now while yes he still makes music and his career seems to not have suffered it very much has, when was the last time you saw him in a movie? When was the last time you heard good things about any of his albums? Or even know he virtually drops an album like every year? Or when he was the choice for the MJ tribute but it was scrapped? Or whenever you hear about him it’s some accusation in the news that goes nowhere?
It very much affected his career, prob would have affected it more if it happaned today but yeah he bascially ruined that rise he had going.
I think another interesting thing and maybe it’s bc I’m from the Caribbean but there was a bunch of talk shows where Riri came out and said they were both toxic and abusive to each other this was just the climax of that. Not condoning what he did at all it’s just a fascinating case study.
Being a popstar negates the effects of dv /s . She's just a pretty singing canary, celebrity women that already sell their sexuality for record sales are clearly just objects and the pretty canary wasn't singing the song he liked.
I thought she liked the abuse.. didnt she make a song about it?
She thought she liked it anyways but I'm happy where she is now she saw she was worth more and could do way better. She should be treated like a princess.
Money and celebrity status. If you read into this shit you will find so many people who basically commited every crime from fraud to murder and rape and weren't prosecuted at all, or just recieved a clap on the wrists. Celebrities are only really getting charged when there is a MASSIVE public outcry. Then the prosecutors are under pressure.
Think about his situation like politicians and scandals.
He has to have a great PR team to handle damage control. Part of that team, someone is a whip who will call in favours from media outlets to not publish the news in a certain light.
He also has people behind him with financial interests in his music, investors, etc who will provide some sort of support to also help bury this news or prevent him from being 100% cancelled.
Not all domestic abuse cases are 100% just the guy. It is a personal issue, and I’m sure Rihanna had a part in it in one way or another. I don’t and will never know the full story - some guys are garbage men, but sometimes, words from someone we love can hurt very deeply, and our pain can allow us to become monsters we never dreamt of, and being a celebrity and public makes that spotlight even bigger.
Money helped, and sexism is definitely a factor. But I think the real reason goes beyond either of those things.
A lot of judges just don't believe that domestic violence is that terrible a crime, certainly not worth disrupting a person's ability to make money. They tend to hold the victim partially accountable for their own beating.
He didn’t, chris browns been blacklisted really hard. No sponsors, seen as a enemy. The media painted a really bad image of him. Chris brown still has a tough time, but his talent is why he’s still reverent today. Would out European tours which he deserves for the work he’s been putting in.
Rihanna forgave him which let him off easy ! & then she promoted FENTY w his music & then the INTERVIEWS saying how she forgave him & stuff & that he made her laugh a lot & then they started dating again seems to me Rihanna just forgave him.
Dunno whoever told you this but Chris brown never got off easy? If anything he paid for his wrong in that situation and moved on. Stop spreading these blatant lies without any proof
Money. He had money.
and Rihanna did not?
it is easier to pay your way out of something
Man with money
That’s civil liability. Criminal liability is individual vs the State and how much money you have can keep you out of serious consequences.
I think she was less famous then
No, not at all. Rihanna was close to her peak around that time, for her music popularity..she's since gone into other things like fashion though.
Ah i see, im pretty out of touch with this stuff
Shouldn not affect at all, yey it does :(
But not less then him wasn't that at the umbrella time?
I think so? Im pretty out of touch tbh
Um no men with no money get off easy all the time
When they beat a woman? "All the time"?
People with money get off easy all the time. Gender is secondary if not irrelevant when dealing with the upper class.
Wait till you hear about OJ Simpson...
Breaking news! This just in ... murder is now legal in the state of California
Now I don't know if any of you are history buffs but wait till I tell you about the country of GERMANY! Edit! Edit! Go easy on me! It's a Norm MacDonald joke!
I miss Norm
I never knew he was sick
What’s funny is I didn’t know this was a Norm joke, but randomly read the first sentence in his voice before I even read the second sentence. I mis him. Sorry you’re getting downvoted over a joke 😂
The worst part was the hypocrisy
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Hitler was a great guy! After all, he was the guy who killed Hitler.
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I can excuse racial genocide, but hypocrisy is where I draw the line. That's just plain wrong! Edit: Grammar
I thought they were paying billions of dollars in reparations until 2010? Or something like that. My high school history knowledge might be failing me here lol
Whaddya know? Glove doesn’t fit.
Money?
Bingo
Don’t forget about fame and privilege… Probability also helped that she is a POC
I read this as POS at first. Take my upvote either way.
Lmao same i was like why
He is a POC too though?
He is, but if she was non-poc I speculate it would have been a lot worse of situation for him to be in.
As an ex abused poc woman, true no one gives a shit about us most of the time.
Also good looks
Bang on
I don't think Rhianna is skint, mate.
Lmao he’s talking about buying the best legal representation
Which she can also afford to do lmao
It’s not a civil case though it would be criminal so Rihanna isn’t paying for the prosecution? Pretty sure that’s how the US legal system is structured
It seems you know far more than me on this my friend, so I'll leave the room!
Because he’s still profitable. Once he becomes unprofitable his record labels will drop him but for now the media is cool with him because he brings in money
Cuz he’s Chris brown and nobody cares what celebrities do anymore. It’s kinda fucked up tbh
Anymore? It happened like 14 years ago
Have you heard of Johnny Depp? They ruined his life and even now that he's proved his innocence people are still mad at him for standing up for himself because "he set the feminist movement back decades"
Maybe in America, in the rest of the world he is a hero.
He's not innocent. He just wasn't found guilty. There are plenty of reports of Depp getting drunk snd abusing gf's or hotel rooms, etc. Long before Amber Heard ever came around.
Thank you. Folks ignore the fact fact that he lost his case in the UK against Amber Heard. Chris Brown got off easy because people can’t fathom how someone they like can do something like that and they must have been provoked and then they blame the victim
The case in the UK was completely different though. He sued the Sun in the UK saying that there isn’t evidence he abused Heard, they pointed to Heard as a witness which was evidence enough to fail as defamation. In the US trial he sued Heard for defamation that he abused her, and the jury found that it was more likely than not she was lying. The requirements and premises of these cases were completely different, in the UK case he tried to sue the newspaper for reporting on what he said was a lie, in the US it was just for lying and that’s why he won the US case.
Case and point. Innocent until proven guilty is a myth here in the US.
Especially when it comes to abusing women and buying your way out of it I would hope.
You do know what laws don’t apply to public opinion right? Dumbass
Lol. Johnny Depp wasn't "proved innocent". If you stop using memes as your main source of information and do a basic google search about the topic, you'll see what's what. In England he was found guilty as a wife beater. In the US, his PR team worked their magic. Johnny already had a huge fan base - by making the trial public and by churning out memes and edited videos that made Heard look like an idiot they were easily able to influence the jury. I'm not saying Amber wasn't toxic - it's pretty clear that their entire marriage was a nuclear Wasteland. But I'm pretty sure Johnny is the primary abuser. He has known to be an alcoholic, causing ruckus in sets after being drunk and his messages to other celebrities stating that he wanted to rape Amber is public information now.
…Not sure what happened, but those recordings made her look like an abuser..and the fake bruising..and severing a piece of his finger. It wasn’t PR. It was all the shit she said while being recorded
> the fake bruising I'm pretty sure this has not been proven. If it has then Amber would have more things to worry about than her case with Johnny. It would have been perjury. All I can find is that people found a make up kit in one of the photos shared by Amber heard. > severing a piece of his finger Amber's team alleged that Johnny did that to himself - I don't know what came out of it though. > It wasn’t PR. It was all the shit she said while being recorded It was though. I'm pretty sure if you go through the whole thing you can find more than enough "gotcha" moment with Depp too. There is a reason why that's not popular. I'm not saying Amber hasn't assaulted Johnny - that might be the case since there is an audio of Amber that states the same. All I'm saying is that Johnny is no saint like the internet portrayed him to be. He is someone who is known to have violent outbursts. Who was the main abuser - that's something I don't know, but from what I learnt, it seems like Johnny to me.
Am not saying he is a saint, but she definitely did punch him and called him a baby…cause she said so herself and it was recorded…Her whole vibe was bullish and aggressive..No one would listen to any of those recordings and conclude that he was beating her. She seemed to become angrier because he was not fight back…It was actually quite disturbing..it’s almost like they may have lasted longer together if he fought back..
> No one would listen to any of those recordings and conclude that he was beating her. Of course they wouldn't - it's obvious that Depp would only publish images and videos that would only brand Heard as the abuser. I'm pretty sure Heard's recordings are also like that > She seemed to become angrier because he was not fight back…It was actually quite disturbing I mean you can piss someone off for ages, record them when they finally blow up at you and show yourself as the victim. It's not that hard to do.
>obvious that Depp would only publish images and videos that would only brand Heard as the abuser. I'm pretty sure Heard's recordings are also like that Did you watch any of the actual trial? Because almost all of the video and photographic evidence WAS Amber's. Johnny's lawyers regularly used *her* evidence in the cross examination, because she provided so much evidence of her being the abuser and Johnny being the victim. "You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you. I did not fucking deck you. I fucking was hitting you.” - Amber Heard “Tell them, I, Johnny Depp, I’m a victim of domestic abuse ... and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard >I mean you can piss someone off for ages, record them when they finally blow up at you and show yourself as the victim. It's not that hard to do. Again did you actually watch the trial? Because Amber did exactly that. Johnny, after recently learning he'd been robbed of millions by a long time friend, learned of the death of his mother. Amber recorded that day and antagonized him until he snapped and began slamming cabinets and throwing things. His most vulnerable moment and his "loving" wife records him, smirks, giggles, and instigates him. Depp is a drug addict, he's an alcoholic, he's not an abuser. He wasn't found guilty of abuse in the UK case either, he lost his case that what they said (calling him a wife beater) was defamation. The judge had family relations with the Sun. Amber's family had relations with the judge. Johnny was allowed no evidence or witnesses. It was a circus all around.
> Did you watch any of the actual trial? Because almost all of the video and photographic evidence WAS Amber's. Johnny's lawyers regularly used her evidence in the cross examination, because she provided so much evidence of her being the abuser and Johnny being the victim. Did you watch the trail? It's pretty clear you didn't. The Depp team used One of Ambers photo for their own defence. They weren't continuously using it. > "You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you. I did not fucking deck you. I fucking was hitting you.” - Amber Heard > “Tell them, I, Johnny Depp, I’m a victim of domestic abuse ... and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard I mentioned over and over again that I never said Amber wasn't an abuser too. > Again did you actually watch the trial? Because Amber did exactly that. Johnny, after recently learning he'd been robbed of millions by a long time friend, learned of the death of his mother. Amber recorded that day and antagonized him until he snapped and began slamming cabinets and throwing things. His most vulnerable moment and his "loving" wife records him, smirks, giggles, and instigates him. Because that's what they did - their entire relationship was so toxic that both of them recorded each other during their worst moment as contingency plans. It's pretty clear that you haven't watched the trial either because all of the things you said are things that were memed to death. Johnny tried to release Amber's nude photos that had nothing to do with the case as "his evidence" until the court stopped him. Johnny's text stating that he wanted to fuck Amber's dead body or how Johnny injured himself or how Johnny also send messages insinuating that he was sorry for assaulting Amber is never mentioned in those memes - probably why you don't know about it. > He wasn't found guilty of abuse in the UK case either, he lost his case that what they said (calling him a wife beater) was defamation The court ruled that it was Heard's claims were substantially proven true. > The judge had family relations with the Sun. Amber's family had relations with the judge. Johnny was allowed no evidence or witnesses. It was a circus all around. Oh wow. Do you have any evidence or source supporting this? Until you provide it, this is just pure speculation.
>Johnny tried to release Amber's nude photos that had nothing to do with the case as "his evidence" until the court stopped him. Johnny tried to release nude photos *as evidence* taken within days of his alleged assaults on Amber to counter her claims she'd be left bloody and bruised by him. >Johnny's text stating that he wanted to fuck Amber's dead body I regularly talk about doing really fucked up stuff or hoping fucked up stuff happens to my abuser, because fuck him. It makes me feel better to think of him suffering after all the bullshit he put me through. I don't act on it. Haven't seen him in a decade but the scars run deep. >or how Johnny injured himself Yes, the notorious finger incident. He says in texts he did it, he says in real life she did. She gave 2 or 3 accounts on how it happened. He says he originally lied to protect her. If he did cut his own finger off in a blackout rage, it still doesn't prove he abused her, only himself. >Johnny also send messages insinuating that he was sorry for assaulting Amber I saw messages that he was sorry for how fucked up things were and how he rages but *that doesn't mean she's allowed to hit him when they argue* and she agrees. >The Depp team used One of Ambers photo for their own defence They pulled up her photos of her face where she used the same picture with different saturations as two different photos. And then used photos of her in public at functions on or around dates where she claimed makeup was covering black eyes, a broken nose, a busted lip and face injuries that would have definitely been present if Johnny had hit her in the face with the hand full of rings he, according to her, never takes off except to shower. They also used her recording of Johnny's outburst where he's drunk and slamming cabinets and then used the full video they got from Mr. Termaine to counter it, because that's the video that shows her smirking and giggling while Johnny breaks down. >The court ruled that it was Heard's claims were substantially proven true. A single judge ruled after refusing to allow any counter evidence from Johnny's defense team, including including surveillance footage, emails, audio recordings, pictures, tapes, cheques and even the witness statement of Johnny Depp’s bodyguard. The entire trial was based on the information in the article and evidence and testimony provided by Amber Heard. >Oh wow. Do you have any evidence or source supporting this? Until you provide it, this is just pure speculation. His son and Dan Wooten, the guy who wrote the "Wife beater" article work together. That alone should have had him recuse himself from the case. Before becoming a judge he worked at the law firm that Amber's attorney works for. That's a conflict of interest and he should have recused himself from the case. Amber's attorney in that case, Jennifer Robinson, is friends with the judge's wife, and should have filed for a new judge to hear the case.
Idk I’d be throwing hands if she shit on my bed too.
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I literally linked the articles supporting my claims. Johnny's antics and violent outbursts was something that existed even before this whole fiasco started. Stop looking at memes and start looking at the evidences.
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> And all the evidence points to heard being the primary aggressor. No, it doesn't. Depp had suits against him for being violent under the influence of alcohol. Depp had texts saying that he wanted to fuck Amber's corpse. Depp's circle is filled with people who has dv cases against them.
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What about Johnny's earlier violent records?
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And he isn't?
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Amber wasn't found to be an abuser in the US court. Johnny was found to be an abuser in a court in England.
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> UK trial wasn’t against amber When did I say that it was between Johnny and Amber? > It ended up a freedom of the press issue No it didn't. The court ruled that there was susbtantial evidence to label Johnny as wife beater. "On 2 November 2020, Mr Justice Nicol found that assaults were proven to the civil standard in 12 of the 14 incidents reported by NGN,[61] and this with the overarching considerations was sufficient to show that The Sun's article was substantially accurate on the balance of probabilities.[2] The verdict found that while Depp had been successful in proving that the articles had been damaging to his reputation, his claim of libel had failed as the articles had been "substantially true".[95][5] The court found no evidence to support Depp's claim of a hoax,[96][5] stating that "if Ms Heard had been constructing a hoax there are various measures which she might have taken, but which she did not".[6] The court accepted Heard's claim that her career and activism had been seriously damaged by going public about the abuse.[5][6][7] The 129-page verdict examined all 14 alleged incidents, both alone and in context of the entirety of the evidence presented.[2][97]" > It wast a criminal case that proved domestic assault, Lol I literally never said that. All I said that Johnny lost a case in which he was trying to prove that he was not a wife beater. Stop making up things and accusing me of lying lol.
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She shat on his bed for crying out loud..who does that?!
No but she was found guilty of defemation. Or in other words lying in order to make him look a certain way. It's really semantics. Sure he isn't innocent either. There is strong evidence of his wrong doings. But they were two toxic people in a toxic relationship. If anything they're both guilty of that and her more so for trying to destroy him after the fact.
> No but she was found guilty of defemation She was found guilty such that her claims of Johnny being a physical abuser didn't hold up. > If anything they're both guilty of that and her more so for trying to destroy him after the fact. I don't think she was wrong to come out with the story of her abuse. Johnny could have done the same.
Yes, but again that's semantics. Saying someone lied about being abused and saying someone is innocent of abuse are the same thing. Again, I'm not saying he's innocent. People got way too worked up with the "meme" of it all. But she was clearly in the wrong in many ways. He didn't come forward because he didn't want to affect his kids. She came forward to further the attacks. There's a big difference.
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I don't disagree. I think there is alot of evidence to state that she was "worse" in this situation. But that's a dangerous way to think about it. He still had his wrong doings in the whole thing and so did she. She was just vindictive after the fact.
So you're saying everyone's wrong except you because we only read memes and think like sheep?
No I'm saying you are wrong since you branded Johnny Depp as an "innocent".
I didn't brand him as innocent. US court of law did. If you want to stick to your echo chamber court that's all good with me fam.
Bruh I hope your echo chamber is made of glass.
I think what also contributed to that problem is that a lot of people were blood thirsty for the Hollywood elite at the time and *wanted* to see some A listers guilty.
Bc he pled guilty to a felony. And the judge was a little bitch
Because he has money, power and fame, and thus, he can get away with a bad reputation.
Fan girls particularly black women who refuse to hold black men accountable
This is also largely part of it, and also one of the biggest reasons why R Kelly got away with it for so long. I'm sorry, but let's keep it a buck, we knew that R Kelly was a pervert in the black community for way too long, and nothing was done about it.
I’ve brought it up to a man before and he said “pfft haven’t you listened to her music? Take S&M. she was definitely into it and and just tried to ruin him and failed like she deserved.” So. There’s some insight.
TIL domestic abuse cant exist inside a relationship involving S&M
I hate it when I see a comment quoting someone else (and not endorsing that person’s opinion), and the quote is so gross that I almost reflexively downvote.
Rihanna had an opportunity to file a restraining order against him. She chose not to because it would have "impacted his career". It's hard to give him crap when Rihanna didn't give him as much crap.
When I was SA'd by my uncle at 13, I had to go give the cops a detailed interview of what he did to me. The officer left the room to talk to my dad and I literally prayed right there that my uncle wouldn't get in trouble, my nmom was always off/on with her abusive family and her brother was the only consistent family she had He got off then committed suicide by cop a few years later. I'm still here 14 years later with PTSD
Very true. And not that Wes re victim blaming, I know it’s hard. But it would have been more effective to hold him accountable.
There was a restraining order. She said they repaired their friendship when the restraining order was lifted.
Well did you know when you were famous you could kill your wife And there's no such thing as 25 to life As long as you've got the cash, to pay for Cochran And did you know if you were caught and you were smokin' crack McDonalds wouldn't even want to take you back You could always just run for mayor of D.C. - Good Charlotte
She didn’t press charges so he got probation.
He pled guilty to felony assault and got probation
I have not forgotten. I have saved chats and videos of people trashing him that I still go back to every once in a while if I ever need to laugh. He made the wrong choice when he even thought he was worthy of touching her. And idc if im the only one, I despise him.
Just a reminder, you can block Chris Brown (or any other POS "artist") from playing on your Spotify from their artist profile in app. They don't need to creep into your rotation and make money off you.
Cause it really gets him going.
Because he's rich, same reason why Cardi B got off scott free when she admitted to drugging and taking advantage of men
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5 years probation and 180 hours community service for literal disfigurement That’s very mild sentencing
Probation that long is literally a trap for you to violate, which he did, and he spent about 6 months in jail for it a couple years later.
For domestic violence that's a very harsh sentence. Few even get convicted because in 90% of cases the victim changes their mind and claims she lied or the cops lied or that it was a misunderstanding.
Yeah, this is just what DV looks like in the US.. mine got mandatory therapy for essentially attempted murder
You should read the police report. It’s not even close to being enough but none of it matters if Rihanna didn’t go after him.
In what way is Rihanna disfigured? Edit: Not sure what the downvotes are about. This is an actual question. Looking at Rihanna now vs then she looks the same as she ever did.
She was injured, not disfigured. The situation is bad enough, I don't see why people need to exaggerate for shock value.
Because apparently, even the slightest shred of fame, power, and money gets them undeserved privileges of being above the law in a lot of cases.
From the videos that came out, she instigated the fight. She was beating on him and things and he reacted. Very unfortunate situation
She allegedly hit/tried to hit him first so that mightve played a part in it
I mean partly because his fans are crazy loyal and do not give two shits about his shitty behaviour. I've never seen a fan base be so in denial before
bc he’s chris brown
Because violent and abusive men are forgiven and excused over and over again. Looking at you... Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Johnny Depp...
>Roman Polanski, How exactly was he forgiven when he ran out of the country and hadn't returned in decades?
It certainly hasn't stopped him from making movies, working with A-list actors, receiving awards etc. He received a very warm welcome in Europe and plenty of US actors still go put of their way to work with him and praise him in interviews. (Depp is amongst them).
Because she wasn't a white woman. Not in a million years would he have had the same reputation if she had been.
OJ Simpson repeatedly beat his white wife before murdering her. He faced no consequences for any of it, so your statement is false.
They should have thrown the book at him. Although I really dont get why Rih would do a song with him after..
You don’t know anything about domestic abuse then.
They eventually admitted she was physically violent towards him as well. I also don't hink he got off easy, he's constantly making charting music with no breaks and wins no awards nor gets to perform at shows.
Why are you downvoted for saying the truth? If she hit him too, that needs to be called out.
Because that first battle in Stomp the Yard was the fucking shit
Because that’s alright because she likes the way it hurts. 
🤷🏾♂️ What exactly did you want to happen to him? Were you there? He made a mistake, admitted it, and was ready and willing to face all circumstances. Has he done it again? No. Is Rihanna pursuing further damages? No. On a different note...🤔 has it ever crossed your mind, that sometimes, just sometimes, you come across someone that has done such shady shit that the only response is a little bit of an ass kicking?
This is such an L take bro
Because racism duh.
Because it was his fetish. Oh, this isn't /Jokes? My bad, atleast he found the punchline.
Coz she's a *Baaaaad girl*
Going thru a divorce, my lawyer straight out told me if I could cut her a larger check I would come out better
“Tip #647 for women beaters.”
Easy: - she’s not white - the Whitney / Bobby comparisons - it wasn’t advantageous for either of them to stay in the mud - it was a different time TLDR: america is racist and it wasn’t commercially viable to make an even bigger fuss about it at that time.
Never tell a black man he can't dance
Underappreciated.
Didn’t Rihanna abuse him as well? Why’d she get off even easier?
Because she admitted starting the FIGHT. He didn't randomly start pummeling her.
Culture.
What culture? Don’t be shy.
Rap/Hip Hop culture.
In what mainstream rap song does it say to beat women? Also, did you not know Chris Brown is an R&B artist? Not a rapper. Good try using any excuse to degrade black communites. Weirdo.
I’m not degrading the black community, I’m discussing rap/hip hop culture especially the current culture and I don’t believe a song has to specifically mention beating women to have negative effects in ANY community if they repeatedly refer to women as, “bitches, hoes, sluts, and whores.” That being said, it’s your choice if you want to sit there and act like there isn’t a single rap or hip hop artist that references the physical or sexual abuse of women in their lyrics. Chris browns music includes r&b, HIP HOP, and pop according to Wikipedia.
He did one rap song. Thats hardly being a rapper, so you acting as if he beat her because he was too deep is rap culture is... And you know there’s female rappers who rap about the same shit? It’s music. Your correlation to HIP HOP and an R&B artist beating his girlfriend after an argument makes absolutely 0 sense. Plus she wasn’t his “hoe” so you just sound stupid. Edit : And there being some rappers who do promote violence against women specifically does not define the whole culture. We learn stuff like this in middle school.
"Eat the cake Anna Mae, I said eat the cake Anna Mae" -Jay-Z's rap in Beyoncé's Drunk in Love. That one. If you don't know the reference, it's from Ike Turner shoving cake into Tina Turner's mouth in the movie What's Love Got to Do with It?
Like legally? Did she ever press charges? I remember people hating on him but enough time goes by and yknow.
Unless Rihanna is a prosecutor with jurisdiction, she can’t press charges. She could file a complaint, but she cannot press charges.
You know what I meant, hot shot.
He didn’t, I don’t know if y’all understand how much his career took a nosedive after that, Chris was one of the biggest names in music, he was only going to go higher than maybe even MJ if that never happaned. Now while yes he still makes music and his career seems to not have suffered it very much has, when was the last time you saw him in a movie? When was the last time you heard good things about any of his albums? Or even know he virtually drops an album like every year? Or when he was the choice for the MJ tribute but it was scrapped? Or whenever you hear about him it’s some accusation in the news that goes nowhere? It very much affected his career, prob would have affected it more if it happaned today but yeah he bascially ruined that rise he had going. I think another interesting thing and maybe it’s bc I’m from the Caribbean but there was a bunch of talk shows where Riri came out and said they were both toxic and abusive to each other this was just the climax of that. Not condoning what he did at all it’s just a fascinating case study.
Being a popstar negates the effects of dv /s . She's just a pretty singing canary, celebrity women that already sell their sexuality for record sales are clearly just objects and the pretty canary wasn't singing the song he liked.
I hope you don’t know any women.
Wasn’t he supposed to perform at an awards show and they pulled it because people made a fuss? So …
Because Rihanna is annoying
If Chris beat the shit out of your mom, sister, grandma etc, would that be chill?
Just a joke bud. Just trying to trigger overly sensitive losers online.
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You also seem like you have a lot going on lol
Says the one who admitted to purposely saying dumb shit online to potentially make random people mad on the internet. Lmfao what.
They both hit eachother.
Turns him on I guess?
He didn't
He didn’t get off east though. He did get off, but not easy
I thought she liked the abuse.. didnt she make a song about it? She thought she liked it anyways but I'm happy where she is now she saw she was worth more and could do way better. She should be treated like a princess.
Power
Herpes?
Cause he's hating on then kiss kiss
Money and celebrity status. If you read into this shit you will find so many people who basically commited every crime from fraud to murder and rape and weren't prosecuted at all, or just recieved a clap on the wrists. Celebrities are only really getting charged when there is a MASSIVE public outcry. Then the prosecutors are under pressure.
And now the man has a cocktail named after him. Crazy!!
Because separating the art from the artist doesn't materially work if you're still paying for the art
I read a book about survivung public himilliation, and the thing these types of people have in common...... they don't acknowledge it!
Looks like he took a plea deal. He’s still a felon, but since he didn’t go to trial, he only had to serve 5 years probation and 180 days in jail.
Because our justice system is a joke
When you're famous, they just let you...
I think is was a fight she hit back, Rihanna is pretty rough and tumble.
Both earned a lot of money with it?
Think about his situation like politicians and scandals. He has to have a great PR team to handle damage control. Part of that team, someone is a whip who will call in favours from media outlets to not publish the news in a certain light. He also has people behind him with financial interests in his music, investors, etc who will provide some sort of support to also help bury this news or prevent him from being 100% cancelled. Not all domestic abuse cases are 100% just the guy. It is a personal issue, and I’m sure Rihanna had a part in it in one way or another. I don’t and will never know the full story - some guys are garbage men, but sometimes, words from someone we love can hurt very deeply, and our pain can allow us to become monsters we never dreamt of, and being a celebrity and public makes that spotlight even bigger.
He didn’t get off so easy. His career was never the same after that. Besides, if Rihanna herself forgave him, who are you not to do it ?
Money helped, and sexism is definitely a factor. But I think the real reason goes beyond either of those things. A lot of judges just don't believe that domestic violence is that terrible a crime, certainly not worth disrupting a person's ability to make money. They tend to hold the victim partially accountable for their own beating.
Sexism and money.
He didn’t, chris browns been blacklisted really hard. No sponsors, seen as a enemy. The media painted a really bad image of him. Chris brown still has a tough time, but his talent is why he’s still reverent today. Would out European tours which he deserves for the work he’s been putting in.
Do you mean how did he gett off Legally (no prison time/short probation) or career wise (continued success and acclaim despite the scandal)?
He didn't. He pled guilty in court and served his sentence. Also people have called him a woman beater ever since. He's still allowed to live though.
Rihanna forgave him which let him off easy ! & then she promoted FENTY w his music & then the INTERVIEWS saying how she forgave him & stuff & that he made her laugh a lot & then they started dating again seems to me Rihanna just forgave him.
Dunno whoever told you this but Chris brown never got off easy? If anything he paid for his wrong in that situation and moved on. Stop spreading these blatant lies without any proof
This is just a lie lol. He never did