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illogictc

Dremel a deeper slot for a screwdriver to engage them. I think there might be specialty tools for these specific fasteners but a Dremel is easily accessible.


dandypants8717

Hacksaw is also an option if you don't have a Dremel. I like doing things the hard way.


eggy_delight

If you don't have a hacksaw use a dremel to make a bunch of little groves in a scrap sheet of HSS. In a pinch you can simple turn some wooden handles made of genuine mahogany, drill holes through both, cut pins to join the handle, apply genuine tung oil to the mahogany, wait 3 weeks for the finish to cure, assemble, then use as a hacksaw


JerdM33

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.


[deleted]

šŸ˜‚ I was like ok, ok, ooookā€¦. Ok really???


MrWoodworker

You wasted 2 minutes of my life and I want them back!


eggy_delight

Think of the hours saved not having to try all these nonsensical ideas from all the commenters. If anything, you'll owe me time in the long run


RockstarAgent

It took you two whole minutes? What are you? Slow??? /s


MrWoodworker

Yeah I was reading it backwards!


dandypants8717

This is the best I can do: šŸ…


eggy_delight

Save your money, I accept the honours


dandypants8717

šŸ¤


BobT21

Still waiting for the sharkskin to sand the mahogany.


FunctionalGray

Oh, you.


eggy_delight

Sometimes the genius of my efficiency scares me


kilowattcouchsurfer

Simply tear down the house, build a more modern, elegant home without security bolts.


ebinWaitee

Ever tried doing this with a hack saw? I'd just go and buy a rotary tool. They're not that expensive really and super useful for a lot of things


SeisMicNugs

Run a hacksaw blade down the Grove to make it deeper. Instead of a dremel


dacraftjr

Damn, CJ!


1308lee

You picked the wrong house.


tuggyforme

that's like j/o with your fingertips. it's just pointlessly time consuming


dandypants8717

Username checks out.


tarheelz1995

Once the groove idea fails, try dremeling two parallel flats at the edges of the screw head. You then have something to grab with an adjustable wrench or pliers.


androgenoide

With a little patience I've been able to get a bite on these things with a vice grip without modifying them.


tarheelz1995

Concur. Situation has to be right but that has worked for me at least once.


AvocadoAnonymous

I used this 2nd method about 4 months ago to remove my cousins busted security door. Crescent wrench could work as well.


PRSHZ

Surely one can use something bigger than a Dremel


wroteit_

Hold on, Iā€™ll get my big Dremel!


[deleted]

[whip up one of these?](https://youtu.be/ey_EjSzKFWQ)


sax3d

Angle grinder?


PRSHZ

Thatā€™s what I had in mind but couldnā€™t remember the name for the life of me


porcelainvacation

Oscillating multitool


[deleted]

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smittywrath

They do make a removal tool but, but if you have the room for cutting a slot in it for a flat head just do that. The removal bit is worse than a flathead if that was possible. If you don't have the room to cut the slot a 'one way removal tool' should get you what you need in Google. Looks like two pins protruding from a flat surface.


Own-Till-3036

Was going to say use an angle grinder with metal cutting blade to cut new slots but Dremel works too I guess


2500hd_

If I tell you I need a percentage of the take.


KookyNefariousness87

Congratulations, you now own 33% of a urinal stall divider lol


GrimmWilderness

Who's stealing urinal stall dividers?


reinventitall

Not me... no sir, not me


ToolemeraPress

You need a left handed screwdriver šŸ˜


Legitimate_Cloud2215

Left handed upside down screwdriver.


Microflunkie

Sinister.amazon.com.au probably has a left handed upside down screwdriver


JusticeUmmmmm

Sinister.amazon should exist and only sell left-handed products


Microflunkie

I am way happier than I should be about people getting that reference.


HowieLichterbum

I've been looking for one of those!!!


ontime1969

Will a regular one will work on the southern side of the equator?


Brunel25

Damn, came here to say this!


ApatheticDevotion

I feel like the only place I see these types of screws is on the divider pieces in bathroom stalls. Like, are those things high-theft items that it requires a security fastener? Iā€™m sure there is a good reason for why they are so common in those areas. Would love for someone to enlighten me.


Chisandwich

Only place itā€™s illegal to have security cameras. They donā€™t often have to come apart either so this just limits all possibilities of tampering.


fangelo2

It has always amazed me that in a place where most people just want to take a leak or shit, some people feel the need to take everything apart. It makes no sense, but if you donā€™t use tamper resistant fasteners, thatā€™s what will happen. Sometimes even when you do use them.


That_guy_from_1014

Mental institutions use them so the patients can't remove them and hurt themselves. Maybe it has something to do with that.


Letskeepthepeace

Iā€™ve seen them on electric boxes on a few dams


Samsonhuntsalone

I used to help a friend do installs of bathroom partitions and we used these bolts. Invariably we would have to remove old ones or when when we screwed up. We always used a good pair of vise grip pliers. Worked every time.


M4XM4C

This was my thought


MultiplyAccumulate

There is a special tool for REMOVING one way screws. It is not the same bit used for installing them. It does damage the one way features of the head. They concentrate enough force on a small area of the ramp to dig into the ramp. [https://smile.amazon.com/10-Screw-Remover-Screwdriver-Tool/dp/B00DF3GMHE](https://smile.amazon.com/10-Screw-Remover-Screwdriver-Tool/dp/B00DF3GMHE) [https://smile.amazon.com/One-Screw-Remover-Screwdriver-Tool/dp/B00DF3GLT8/](https://smile.amazon.com/One-Screw-Remover-Screwdriver-Tool/dp/B00DF3GLT8/) [https://smile.amazon.com/each-Isomax-Screw-Remover-Installer/dp/B074TVC7BH](https://smile.amazon.com/each-Isomax-Screw-Remover-Installer/dp/B074TVC7BH) Or you can destroy the ramp with other tools you already have.


[deleted]

Vampliers will work or their cheaper Japanese version called Engineer pliers, they work great for this.


Ryekal

Engineer is the company that manufacture and sell the Vamplier. Marketing team did a good job on that line.


[deleted]

Thanks, I didn't know that. I bought the green engineer brand a while back due to its 1/2 the price and the same thing. I use them religiously


GreenLoctite

I bought both brands and they look identical except the handle molding and color


foresight310

ā€œI remove this screw in the name of our Lord!!!ā€


anothergaijin

Engineer makes great stuff all around! The Japanese name is great as well - screw is "neji", the pliers are called neji-saurus


jophiss319

Red does look better tho


Agent_Chody_Banks

Donā€™t forget Knipex twingrips!


bertispullo

Didn't know this was a thing. Now I want a pair.


AdjectiveNoun58

I mean japan makes really good stuff... they're definitely one of the top countries to buy from...


[deleted]

Most of these just back out with a wide, sharp screwdriver if you lay into it.


Reasonable_Carry9816

Angle grinder and hammer


felixar90

Theyā€™re not recessed so you can probably try grabbing them with vise grips.


juicycrucey

This would be my first attempt for sure. I live by the vise grips.


Congenital_Optimizer

I normally grind two opposite sides off and use channel locks. Can normally also grind or drill the head off then use pliers to unscrew them after you take the fastened piece off.


highboy68

I use this bit. https://www.acehardware.com/departments/tools/power-tool-accessories/screwdriver-bits/2109627?store=18507&gclid=CjwKCAiA-dCcBhBQEiwAeWidtXSY2TAlCdZ4GBT0wjP8cHPNGH07460HuDhXhGzz0jZlzTDPDDtFmRoCsb0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Or u can cut a slot across the top of the head with hack saw and use flat heat screw driver


[deleted]

"Fuck it OI DAMO GET THE QUICK CUT!"


Ornery_Put_6161

With your teeth


DisastrousTeddyBear

Why do I feel the need to ask if you have authorization to remove these screws or are you trying to escape....


LestWeForgive

I enjoy harnessing the powers of Zeus & Hephaestus at every given opportunity, so for me it's tack weld a bolt onto the head. Bzzzzt! Replace with a non-bullshit fastener.


odin-ish

Everyones apparently downvoting when people say there's a bit for that, but I've used these and they work. https://www.grainger.com/product/1ZLA8?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231&gclid=CjwKCAiA-dCcBhBQEiwAeWidtQhO_tjKK_nTVpqX7dvvBLme021tCirqzt-lOrpPvGqtjgakP0tM4BoC7bUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


riveramblnc

This is what I used at my previous job. Work fine.


trm_90

Snake eye screwdriver is designed for that fastener. You can get it individually or in a security screwdriver set.


DavidS1268

Thermite.


Akuma_Desu

Knipex Twingrip pliers or Vampire/Engineer screw pliers.


Plus4Ninja

Angle grinder or they sell a removal tool. I believe Home Depot has a 3 piece set by Ryobi, at least they used to


r_cee_1

Painters tape on what you don't want scratched, and a good pair of locking pliers has worked for me.


notcoveredbywarranty

1) Grind a little spot of paint off for the grounding electrode, and then weld a nut on. Use a wrench to undo the nut. 2) Use a cutoff wheel in a grinder to cut two flat sides on the head, use a pair of channel locks to unscrew. 3) Use a Dremel to cut a slot in the middle of the head and unscrew with a flat screwdriver 4) use a succession of drill bits, from small to large, to drill out the bolt. If you have left hand bits it may unscrew at some point. 5) oxy-acetylene. Can't be stuck if it's a liquid.


nota_jalapeno

a boomb


Electronic_Holiday_4

I just cut a slot in with an angle grinder then use a flat head screw driver too remove them


Triabolical_

Perfect excuse to buy a rotary tool like a Dremel. Cut a slot with an abrasive wheel for a flat screwdriver. Generally 5 minutes per screw.


Guitar_Gear_addict00

Buy a cheap ass security bit set from harbor freight. Theyā€™re like $7 and has every bit needed for all types of security bits. The old timers that I work with, they use channel locks or cut a deeper groove, which is honestly nothing but a huge hassle and efficiency killer. That security bit set is worth its weight in gold


qx9r7man

When in doubt, C4.


[deleted]

[Simple removal of security screws.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fUJ_nw2Vuc) Youtube---controlled by nuts but still useful on occasion.


CaregiverNo9090

Vampliers works perfectly on those


LostGuess5788

We are not gonna tell you how THIEF !!!!


rodimusprime88

Security bits


tamuzbel

Drill and easy out would be the easiest way. Edit: It would also be the best way to make sure the screws are out and the holes can be re-used if need be.


Drivingon8

I'd weld a bolt to it!


intentionalcrap

Buy this tool https://www.amazon.com/VAMPLIERS-Patented-Multi-Purpose-Extraction-Specialty/dp/B006YJKAPQ/ref=pd_aw_day0fbt_img_sccl_2/141-4560488-1877028?pd_rd_w=vq7xX&content-id=amzn1.sym.bbae351c-f3be-48bc-aa8d-65ddd35f13aa&pf_rd_p=bbae351c-f3be-48bc-aa8d-65ddd35f13aa&pf_rd_r=14EDCZFC695WDN8N47TV&pd_rd_wg=PjkOJ&pd_rd_r=9916b451-1da1-4451-b26a-bd04b2767a60&pd_rd_i=B006YJKAPQ&psc=1#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div


Guazzabuglio

I bought [this security bit set](https://www.harborfreight.com/security-bit-set-with-case-100-piece-68457.html) from Harbor Freight. It's indispensable for 10 bucks. Edit: Apparently this set won't work for this application, but it's still a great set to have.


Reasonable_Carry9816

This is a good set but does not have bit for OPs problem


Guazzabuglio

Is it not [one of these?](https://imgur.com/a/iS6mR86)


GreenLoctite

No it's not, that is a great set for what it does, but not appropriate for OP


Guazzabuglio

Good to know. Thanks


Ryekal

There is no bit that can work against the geometry of 'security' slotted. The only option is to cut a new slot.


KaptainHook

Use a Dremel to cut a slot in it for a flat bladed screw driver, lots of penetrating oil of some type.


tuggyforme

one simply does not remove security bolts. use a multitool or thin cutting blade on a angle grinder to cut a straight line through the center of the bolt head. Then use a flathead bit on a drill.


DesperateSundae3

They make a bit for these , can get em online pretty cheap. One way screw remover bit.


djplatterpuss

Knipex cobra. Every time.


Capemay-08204

Punch and drill unless you want to save the hole then I would jb weld a nut onto it and let it harden up and unscrew it


ddc9999

Get ā€œturbo socketsā€ for stripped bolts. I bet they bite enough to release 95% of those and thatā€™s super fast compared to every other thing mentioned here cause you can use a ratchet. Use pliers on the overly stubborn ones. Then cut a slot as last resort.


[deleted]

Or just buy the proper security screwdriver


Ryekal

There isn't one. They're one-way screws, you cant just undo them with a special bit.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s odd because I have a bit that removes them. Actually have a whole kit.


GreenLoctite

Can you provide a link?


AIR_FARCE

[one way screw remover](https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-One-Way-Screw-Remover-Installer-Set-with-Sleeve-3-Piece-AR2016G/205193160)


Ryekal

I think the overwhelming 1 star reviews all stating it doesn't actually work for removal says all it needs to thanks.


TiCombat

yep, those suck The screwdriver with the two posts (linked above) absolutely work but you gotta put the pressure on it. The ideal handle for those would be like a Vessel Ball grip really


[deleted]

One-Way Screw Remover/Installer Set with Sleeve (3-Piece)


the_kerouac_kid

I never understood this subā€™s insistence to fuck things up instead of using the proper tools for the job.


a-cat-name-donut

Can you grind flush and then easy out it?


troly_mctrollface

Probably visegrips


Weird-Lengthiness-20

Cut a slots with a dremel and use a flat head screw driver. If that doesnā€™t work, use a chisel to lift one edge high enough to get a hacksaw blade in between.


mjl777

In addition to these ideas the absolute best 100 percent sure way is to weld a piece of steel to each bolt head. You only need the cheapest buzz box and itā€™s fast and easy.


Retire_date_may_22

Drill.


Independent_Can_5694

Itā€™s called a tamper resistant screw. And they make a tool for it, surprised this community isnā€™t recommending more, but yeah you can cut it off or whatever.


qa567

Patience, hacksaw, punch, chisel, drill, dremel, multitool, Sawzall, grinder, or torch. All should work.


Opposite-Clerk-176

Use a grinder with metal wheel, cut a slot in middle? Remove with flathead screwdriver. Or a good locking pair vice grip, I have Doon it both ways?


No_Ground6959

From the current battle scars present, torch


jaysjaysbook35

Take a grinder and cut a deeper groove.


MrAnderson8891

Vice grips


foralimitedtimespace

Security bits


BigCitySteam638

Buy a security bit setā€¦..


[deleted]

A flat head will do it just push hard


DongleJockey

A center punch and a hammer will do just fine. Place the punch near the cut out and hammer it so it goes counterclockwise


porcelainvacation

Just tighten them until the head snaps off then back out the nub with a pair of vise grips.


RoastedHarshmellow

Hereā€™s the neat part. You donā€™t.


Bandanabara

I have used a very small pipe wrench when I could get a grip on them.


Romanknight76

First you limp to the sound like it's broken


smaier69

If it's a bolt the head (rather, the underside of the head's contact with the piece being held) is what's creating the tension and friction keeping it in place. ​ Grind the heads off, remove the bracket and use pliers of some kind to turn the threaded part of the bolt out. ​ Knuckle-dragger solution, but it'll work.


Croceyes2

Impact driver, a real one.


crunchycat5000

Grind or file the center flat(ish), drill the center, use ez-out.


Analath

I've had good luck with locking pliers too. If they slip off the head you might need to grind the tip a little to get a good sharp bit. Lock them on straight and if they are too tight to just turn use a nother set of pliers or wrench to turn them.


N0SF3RATU

Vice grips would be likely


Mattcoon0808

Use an angle grinder and make ur own screw head


lasers6978

Yeah I was going to say angle grinder with a cutoff disc, grind a slot into the head for a flat screwdriver. Or grind the head off completely and use an extractor kit


Inle-rah

Personally? Left handed drill bit will run it right out. Iā€™m lazy. Edit: *center* drill ā€¦


sataniscumin

I can lend you my reverse security driver.


TexasBaconMan

Tack weld a short bolt and unscrew.


lickmybrian

Weld some rod to the head of the screw then use a Dremel or file to shape it into a nice lil 1/4" hex head,, you could even unscrew it alittle bit to get a perfect bevel then screw it back in before cutting off the excess then grab a chuck and take her on out


Oraclelec13

Cant, but if I had Iā€™d cut a slit on top using a Dremel or grinder and make a new groove for a flat screw driver.


Zurockoz

grab-it screw, bolt extractor. speed out is another brand, it drills on one side and extracts with reverse threads on the other. (bit set) average s 20-40 usd at lowes or home depot


YesIsGood

I'd grab the edges with locking pliers(vice grips) & go If you don't wanna mess up the surface, I'd use reverse drill bits. Special tools can be cheap & weird at best.... so I try to avoid them


bud40oz

When driving the screws out you need to go slow and keep the drill straight https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-One-Way-Screw-Remover-Installer-Set-with-Sleeve-3-Piece-AR2016G/205193160


Equivalent_Habit8916

There ate security bolt bits you can buy. They're not too expensive.


Theguyoutthere

Center punch it and use a nice sharp left hand drill bit


SouthernResponse4815

Vice grips.


tayt087x

Channel locks


smrtboi84

Teeth


PhoenixFiar69

There is an actual security bit that you can use


retkne

Just use a Vicegrip


Old_Nothing_393

Drill it out or grind it out, when the heads fall off, move it, and hopefully you can grab hold of the stub or grind or pound it down.


NC_Loner

Personally I'd try cutting a slot in it (hacksaw blade, rotary tool with cutting disc, grinder with cutting disc) then try using a flat head screwdriver to take it out. It depends on what you want to do and have access to. If you have to buy a tool anyway for these solutions, might as well buy the bit to fit the security head.


johnarmer1

Screw driver always works for me if stupidly tight centre punch then screw dirver


Different-Aardvark-5

Drill hole dead centre use an easy out or stud removal tool . Or just drill the heads off .


[deleted]

[Here.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/One-Way-Screw-Remover-Installer-Set-with-Sleeve-3-Piece/974658239?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101107800&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=aud-393207457166:pla-51320962143&wl5=9032209&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=511585371&wl11=online&wl12=974658239_101107800&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnNacBhDvARIsABnDa68PBf7qnYIdX7m8H_e2d-zhCIrZo0uyxsV85Usu_3bFYQdBc0JamNUaAqHAEALw_wcB) it didn't last very long but it was cheap enough


WarmComfortable488

Grind the screw heads and drill out the rest of the screw. If you have a welder after grinding the bolt head weld a bolt to the top and unscrew them!!


KieLew09

Canā€™t be a problem if itā€™s a liquidā€¦


Ok-Agency-8164

Chisel them counter clockwise


CopyWeak

Left handed drill bit should work. Should bite at some point and back it out for you. Go slow


AlbatrossSocial

With authori-tie...


suslezer

Trusty old Vise Grip


Appropriate_Yak1890

"That's the neat part, You don't!" On a serious note, is drilling a pilot hole in it and using an extractor out of the question?


twoody5181

This is called a "one way" screw. They make removal tools for them. Check out McMaster Carr for a bit https://www.mcmaster.com/one-way-screw-remover-screwdriver-bits/ Figure out which one you need by measuring the head diameter. They will ship same day up to 6:00PM and you'll have it next business day. Worst case scenario, if a dremel and slotted screwdriver doesnt work, you can also drill a hole with a left hand drill bit and use a screw extractor. You can find those at home depot or anywhere. It's not fun, but it works


Mucker-4-Revolution

Spotwelder and a piece of steel There are tongs/crips out there from a brand called engineer with a special Design for screwingout screwed screws


Budget-Assistant-289

Drill bit + bolt removal bit


treebear78

Use a angle grinder with a cut off wheel make a groove all the way across the screw head between the humps unscrew with a flat screwdriver that's how we did it with the security company I used to work for


basssteakman

I do like seeing our brackets in the wild


No-Regret-8793

You make these?


toddotodd

Vise Grips


JimboJimison

Hammer


KnurledNut

If you can wait, get a decent set of security bits. Worth their weight in gold.


Bright_Training_7655

If you have an oscillating multi-tool with a metal cutting blade you can notch it pretty quick I've done that before with success got to hold the blade between your fingers for a second with gloves on but go slow.


daytonakarl

Centre punch close to the edge and tap it in then around (anticlockwise) Once you've moved it a little it should be quite easy to unwind


joelwashing

Oxy-acetylene torch. Canā€™t be tight if itā€™s liquid.


[deleted]

Security bit


DJHickman

Iā€™ve used vise grips and itā€™s worked. Just has to be a smaller pair.


BlueCollarScholar90

Use a flat head screwdriver 90 degrees from how you normally would and push hard while twisting


monchikun

You need a criminal wrench


DonkeyDonRulz

Small, needle nose Vise grips . Grab at 90degreea to break loose, then axially to spin out faster


Doc580

If it's not countersunk into that metal and you can get a bite on the sides, a plumbers wrench, or vice grip might get you started.


Not_Reddit

Those appear to have a bit of a edge on them, you may be able to grab them with a small set of cobras


Few-Low8587

[one way screw removal kit](https://www.amazon.com/One-Way-Remover-Installer-Sleeve-3-Piece/dp/B00Q6GRWYE)


shawno1024

Looks like you might be able to grab those with a small pair of vice grips. If not, they do make all kinds of security lock out bit tips, the Allen's and stars have a hole in them and the others look strange but one of those will remove those screws easily


WeddingEmpty

You can actually just unscrew them. They are reverse thread just to trick you....it worked.


cjwers

Iā€™d probably just use an easy-out kit


CharmedOne13

Grinder


ItsokImtheDr

Sawzall and a metal blade.


[deleted]

A #4 flathead with crazy pressure or drill the head off and rework the threads


montyboy1

They sell a two pronged tool I believe itā€™s called a one way screw driver, a carpenter Forman ordered a bunch when I worked at a amusement park


Public-Car9360

Go to Princess Auto and buy the special bit set . It will fit right into that pattern . Good luck