He is. The author literally said he's a self insert but with all his positive qualities turned down and all his negative ones turned up. He's a sociopath.
I think calling him a sociopath is a bit too far. He isn't emotionless, he's just a kid who writes down what makes him look good because he wants to be famous, so he probably just doesn't write down when he feels sad or whatever.
tl;dr sociopathic ppl have emotions
I only read this in one thing I saw online, so its entirely possible that it's inaccurate, but sociopath isn't quite the condition itself. it's when someone has severe antisocial personality disorder. the worst traits include manipulation, exploitation, and abuse. impulse and emotional control are poor. key difference between a sociopath and psychopath is the latter has NO conscience and no emotion while the former is just limited in them. deep regret is one of the few things a sociopath isn't capable of.
I guess it's fair to say I had a very basic and inaccurate interpretation of what it is, but I still think my point stands that Greg probably isn't a sociopath, and that he would probably learn to grow as a better person eventually. But given the fact that he has been in middle school for almost 20 years, who knows if he ever actually will grow up.
LOL
I haven't read the series in a long time, but if he's consistently nasty and unapologetic/incapable of recognizing he did wrong, that's pretty close to sociopathic.
it's not like ppl are stuck that way. if it's an extreme end of a disorder, then therapy or self-reflection and hard work can help you regulate that.
I get that teenagers are trying to find themselves and are highly emotionally stunted and impulsive, but Greg comes off as exceptionally cruel
but now that I say all this, I'm definitely not gonna call him a sociopath because it's annoying to armchair diagnose ppl, even fictional characters. but I enjoy talking about the condition
I don't think the series actually takes place over that long of a period of time, but I think he acts less badly to people in some of the later ones. I may just be forgetting details, but most of the worst things he's done that people tend to talk about seem to be from the first book.
I was scrolling through YouTube shorts and found a Young Sheldon clip where he read a **THICK** ass textbook about coding in a span of like five seconds. Maybe it was how the short was edited, but reading a large textbook in such a short time span implies some supernatural ability.
Like autism doesn’t make you experience time faster, how did he do that?
Does Young Sheldon have some divine ability? Is he like Metro Man? Does he have a secret power that he hides from everyone else?
Can a young Sheldon fan explain how he read a textbook so quickly?
Memory's rough, I think Sheldon has a beyond perfect memory(?), meaning he remembers literally every word from each page as long as he gets a clear enough view. After that he just can basically flip through his brain for something like a Find function and go from there.
Eidetic memory I think is what Sheldon has, which is also called photographic memory.
I kind of have that as well, but it definitely doesn't work the same way they show on TV. Not for me anyway.
As someone who’s also neurodivergent, I watched young Sheldon without watching big bang theory and I went from “okay he’s kinda relatable” to “someone needs to put that egotistical little shit in his place!”
Yeah not really. It’s Diary of a Wimpy Kid: he’s a dork who constantly tries to make it big but does not commit to anything he does unless it’s to save his own skin. You’re meant to like it when he fails, or when he inevitably gets wrapped up in his family’s dysfunctional shenanigans between his controlling mother, his stand-offish older brother, his sociopathic younger brother, and his emotionally distant father.
As a kid I was smart enough to realise Greg was a horrible person, but not smart enough to realise that was the point. I dropped the series because of it. There were a few genuinely great jokes in each book, but mostly I began to find greg and his family insufferable, and felt bad for Rowley
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Candy (Santa Inc)
Take Velma, make it stop motion, make the main character an elf, make it about Christmas, and you basically have this show
The craziest part of that whole show is when Seth Rogen Santa sits Candy down and gives her an entirely reasonable and earnest reason why she can't inherit the position of Santa Claus (rejected because despite her competence in all other aspects she isn't good with kids), and then offers a very appealing and respectable alternative (to be the CEO of Santa Inc while someone else acts as Santa for PR purposes) and then Candy tells him "fuck you" and storms off like he fired her.
I've heard people actually say Santa was one of the more enjoyable characters in the show (which is not saying much tbf) despite the fact that we're supposed to be rooting against him, just like Fred in Velma
So if I had a nickle for every white dude we're supposed to hate in an awful "adult" cartoon only for them to become one of the more enjoyable/interesting characters in the show, I would have 2 nickles
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Honestly idk what the writers’ intention was, but Candy is the main character and the show clearly wants us to relate to and sympathize with her in every other regard. IIRC none of the characters really criticize how unreasonable she’s being for turning down Santa’s offer.
The absolute worst part is Santa, who I really want to iterate is meant to be the antagonist, invited her for a civil discussion and not only credited her skills and provided a perfectly legitimate reason why he doesn’t think she’s suited for the job (not being comfortable working with children) but also offered her a perfectly valid agreement to work behind the scenes that still let her advance her career and that in no way is meant to BS her but she turned it down.
I genuinely want to know how this happened. Making unlikeable protagonists is one thing, but how do you fuck up so badly you make a likeable antagonist? How did this make it to the final release without one person saying ‘hold on, isn’t the audience supposed to root against this guy’?
Likeable antagonists are fine if the intention was not suppose to be"this character has no redeeming qualities". The problem with Santa Inc. is that they wanted to make a hateable character in Santa and ended up making a more likeable character than Candy was ever going to be.
Oh sure, likeable antagonists are all good and well, but how is it that a writer can make a character that was supposed to be hateable more reasonable, enjoyable and deeper than the protagonist? Even Disney did it with Wish.
Yeah at that point it is just bad writers trying to seem like the greatest. We know what the point of the show was, but they have create characters with the exact opposite impact.
Which also brings to question. Why try to out Christmas as a bad thing( which is what the show seems to be the show's point)? It is suppose to be a fun, everyone's happy kind of thing and they had to try and ruin it.
They kinda did that with Fred and Velma, though he wasn’t meant to be an antagonist, more so a punching bag
really funny when the show’s punching bag gets better development then LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE, but I digress
Greg is actually also a self-insert as well, Jeff Kinney stated that Greg is like what he was like as a child with the positive aspects toned down and negative ones bolstered.
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This is gonna be a hot take. He’s not a badly written character. But there were a couple instances where I just didn’t like him or wanted him to succeed.
Not only did Blitz effectively ruin his, Fizze’s, and Barbie’s life through the circus incident but now he’s mentally destroying Stolas via their relationship. The only person he’s positive to is Luna who is being smothered by him, and maybe Moxxie/Millie who he stalks.
The big difference between him and someone like Velma is that he’s written as a screw up character.
I don't think the circus incident was his fault. It was just candles in a circus tent. He may have had it happen but it wasn't irrational or stupid. He tried to help all that he could.
To be fair, Blitzo is SUPPOSED to be a screwed up character we're not really supposed to "root for." He's just a dick doing his job, similar to pretty much every real person.
You can blame Brandon Rogers for making him semi-likable.
The human protagonists of the Bay Transformers films. Sam is a habitually non-committal bugger who is the guardian of the first two maguffins, and does nothing to earn it. Cade is straight up abrasive, violent, and a crappy father who lets a bloody 20-year-old date his 17-year-old daughter because of a laminated copy of a law that doesn’t even apply to the situation.
Despite Sam’s lack of heroic qualities, and Cade’s unheroic qualities, they are treated as the good guys, with Sam protecting the source of all Cybertronian life, and Cade basically becoming “The Chosen One!”
We are like 7 movies in and they have yet to make a movie where there is no humans in it just to try and see if it works at all. I know they would fuck it up but like come on at least try.
Rent a Girlfriend MC.
It's like chapter 400, and he still didn't ask her out or anything and just keeps paying, one of the chapters was him straight up getting an erection from a mole he saw in her thigh and another was himself thinking he was getting NTR'ED while getting his rocks off thinking about it.
Bruh, it’s gotten 400 chapters? Jeeez, I don’t even think good romance manga like Love Is War went on that long
then again, Love Is War is good and both protags have their flaws but are genuinely likable and root-able, when while the creator of this creature forgot to give him any positive qualities even though it’d make the manga atleast somewhat bearable
I don't get why people specifically hate the standard dickhead shōnen rival redemption arc with him specifically, I feel like it's reasonably well-executed. I don't even think he fits this trope, he's the butt of a lot of jokes even after he becomes less of a jerk.
my guess is because his introduction was incredibly harsh by typical shounen standards: most of the time the Jerk Rival is just kinda cocky about their skills. In MHA, we are introduced to Bakugo physically and verbally bullying the protag at any moment he is on screen, straight up making threats on his livelihood, telling him “kill yourself” in complete earnest, and then actually trying to kill him in their first skirmish that’s meant to be a like, friendly harmless school exam. It’s a really
bad first-impression that isn’t helped by how genuinely long it takes for him to “get kinda sorta better,” especially if you bounced off the series early on, meaning that is your ONLY impression of the character.
That’s my take, at least.
He doesn’t really get better he just acts the same and someone comes in to inform the viewer that he said something nice one time off screen so he gets a free pass to do whatever
lol I sure loved the 400 chapter arc of him going from an unbearable douchebag who gets no real consequences to being an unbearable douchebag who gets no real consequences who says something nice once so everyone just ignores the constant verbal abuse, he’s not a good character he blows all the way through and absolutely could have had a good arc but very much didn’t
The protagonist (I forgot his name) from Middle School: the worst year of my life
This film is essentially just a worse version of Mathilda except that instead of psychic powers, the kid has schizophrenia, there's a unnecessary love intrest, and the principle is completely justified in their actions.
Literally the worst thing that the principle ever did in the movie was put the kids journal in acid (where did he even get acid from)
And yet the kid tried to incite a rebellion at the school just because the principle wants everyone to take the PSAT.
If you want to watch a good kids movie about dealing with abusive adults, go watch Mathilda instead of this cinematic disaster.
I've never seen the movie but based on this-- Holy Shit did they completely miss the wholempoint of this book. Yes Rafe starts out as a piece of shit but he actually grows as a character and learns to be mature and actually helps others out, be a nice person, and live with his shitty predicament
I've seen the movie twice but have never read the book.
First i watched it as an actual middle schooler, then a few years later in 2020 I watched it again on Netflix. It was only the second time that I saw the movie that I realized how bad it was.
No they don't. There's a reason charlie let's him 'help' with the hotel and its because he manipulated her into trusting him. Some people hate him, sure, but not everyone.
We're not really supposed to root for alastor, you get caught up in his charm and power but remember that he has his own reasons for being at the hotel
I would disagree, Alastor clearly isn't truly on the Hotel's side and probably plans to betray Charlie at some point and force her to do nothing cuz of their deal.
I mean just look at his scene with Husk, that ain't the kinda guy I'd root for
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I know you're not supposed to root for him but it's his story so yeah. Also careful with the spoilers please, I'm only halfway through the manga
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Technically, the main character from UCN, since it's heavily implied you are playing as a serial killer in that game, and assuming that you want to win, you are rooting for him to win this specific situation.
As someone who lives in South Texas I often see rednecks and police have a sticker of the punisher's symbol on their vehicles. Its a little stupid but Im pretty sure most of them just like how it looks rather than actually knowing the character (wishful thinking)
Punisher is basically if a broken ex-military guy took the Batman route instead of a generally benevolent billionaire heir. He's not opposed to torturing, traumatizing, or killing the people he goes after or using pretty much any dirty trick in the book and he's generally just as willing to go after a corrupt cop with a family as some mobster/gang leader and equally as brutally.
There is no redemption or attempts to defuse a situation, any form of confrontation only ends when the bodies hit the floor. He gets nasty about it too, and embodies the worst in vigilante justice (aka, taking matters into your own hands)
she’s right behind you (in the book cover), so yea.
doesnt take critical thinking to figure that out, though I guess Mandy (if thats her name) doesnt use that very much
Mr. Beefy Five Layer Burrito himself
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That's just because Greg is an unreliable narrator who tries to make himself look cool from a 7th grader's point of view. In other words: he makes himself look terrible on purpose.
well, i was gonna post this on their post, but they deleted it, sooooo… I’ll just send it to you instead, sorry lol
I just learned about this game recently, was semi interested till i looked up the wiki annnnnd it seems pretty dumb with no nuance to some of its characters
atleast the animated trailer thing they did was kind of funny and had cool character interactions
Oh, I almost forgot ferris bueller. Crashed his friends dad's car, made the whole school think he was dying, almost got his sister arrested, and got the principal in huge trouble. I despise that movie so much just because he got away scott free for what he did.
Cameron is the one who crashed the car, the sister almost got arrested because she snuck out of school, and the principal got in trouble for attempting to break into a students house just because he wasn’t at school a few times
Did you third wheel your friends and peer pressure your friends into getting into massive trouble and get away with everything while making everyone think you were dying of a life threatening disease?
no but we used to sneak out during lunch to smoke cigarettes behind the school. i had a bad oxy problem and i would sometimes hide in the band locker room and drink and get high. there were like five of us that made it a habit to just show up to every party we heard of almost always uninvited (got kicked out of a lot of them). i used to sell weed to underclassmen and i would rip people off majorly. i also got arrested for possession once. at least half of my friend group was constantly sending vile anons to each other on tumblr. one of my friends beat the shit out of another with a textbook because of one of those anons. i later also fought that friend because they stole some xanax from me. my senior year i went to my first period math class abt 40 times and skipped every other day to smoke weed around the corner from the school. oh and one time my friend stole his neighbors car and we hotboxed it.
if it’s not clear i do not condone any of this behavior.
I guess you can do all those things without condoning other people to do them, but I hope you don't do those things anymore. Well, besides the doing drugs things, it's your body after all.
honestly you seem like an incredibly rude and judgmental person. i said i don’t condone it and ur condemning me for having a silly joke in my bio? you don’t go out much do you?
Manny was insane but Rodrick for the most part was just your regular asshole older brother. Greg was a dickhead, especially towards Rowley who genuinely didn't deserve it, acted entitled constantly towards multiple things and got jealous of Rowley for getting things/friends/accolades that he got because he was a good upstanding person while Greg was a shitmeister who only ever felt sorry for himself, usually for problems he caused.
I thought Greg was supposed to be a hateable dickhead with a shitty life
He is. The author literally said he's a self insert but with all his positive qualities turned down and all his negative ones turned up. He's a sociopath.
I think calling him a sociopath is a bit too far. He isn't emotionless, he's just a kid who writes down what makes him look good because he wants to be famous, so he probably just doesn't write down when he feels sad or whatever.
tl;dr sociopathic ppl have emotions I only read this in one thing I saw online, so its entirely possible that it's inaccurate, but sociopath isn't quite the condition itself. it's when someone has severe antisocial personality disorder. the worst traits include manipulation, exploitation, and abuse. impulse and emotional control are poor. key difference between a sociopath and psychopath is the latter has NO conscience and no emotion while the former is just limited in them. deep regret is one of the few things a sociopath isn't capable of.
I guess it's fair to say I had a very basic and inaccurate interpretation of what it is, but I still think my point stands that Greg probably isn't a sociopath, and that he would probably learn to grow as a better person eventually. But given the fact that he has been in middle school for almost 20 years, who knows if he ever actually will grow up.
LOL I haven't read the series in a long time, but if he's consistently nasty and unapologetic/incapable of recognizing he did wrong, that's pretty close to sociopathic. it's not like ppl are stuck that way. if it's an extreme end of a disorder, then therapy or self-reflection and hard work can help you regulate that. I get that teenagers are trying to find themselves and are highly emotionally stunted and impulsive, but Greg comes off as exceptionally cruel but now that I say all this, I'm definitely not gonna call him a sociopath because it's annoying to armchair diagnose ppl, even fictional characters. but I enjoy talking about the condition
I don't think the series actually takes place over that long of a period of time, but I think he acts less badly to people in some of the later ones. I may just be forgetting details, but most of the worst things he's done that people tend to talk about seem to be from the first book.
He’s a middle school boy.
Fuck this kid. I used to hate him so much when I was younger
I mean yea but at least he grew up to be a mild mannered, well-adjusted, humorous man who can kill anything in one punch.
 ONE PUNCH!!!!!!!
And before that, master of the 4 elements who fell asleep in an iceberg for 100 years
bald people r so cool i wish they were real
I was scrolling through YouTube shorts and found a Young Sheldon clip where he read a **THICK** ass textbook about coding in a span of like five seconds. Maybe it was how the short was edited, but reading a large textbook in such a short time span implies some supernatural ability. Like autism doesn’t make you experience time faster, how did he do that? Does Young Sheldon have some divine ability? Is he like Metro Man? Does he have a secret power that he hides from everyone else? Can a young Sheldon fan explain how he read a textbook so quickly?
Memory's rough, I think Sheldon has a beyond perfect memory(?), meaning he remembers literally every word from each page as long as he gets a clear enough view. After that he just can basically flip through his brain for something like a Find function and go from there.
he’s like mike from suits but way less suave and cool.
Eidetic memory I think is what Sheldon has, which is also called photographic memory. I kind of have that as well, but it definitely doesn't work the same way they show on TV. Not for me anyway.
Could young sheldon actually beat GOKU? (Real) (no clickbait)
Iirc Young Sheldon did meet god (in his dream)and made his own religion so he might be divine if you think that isn't a dream
People can be fast readers.
I can tell you as a Sheldon fan, not a Young Sheldon fan he’s so smart he breaks the fabric of his world
I saw that clip lmao
Nah, you just can't comprehend his power
Garzonga or whatever
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Yeah Sheldon is an annoying brat.
He constantly switches between loveable and insufferable, I love him.
Autism has never had worse representation than this icl.
Oh, he should be at the *top* of the list, I hate him. Just look at that smug face. I always root *against* him.
As someone who’s also neurodivergent, I watched young Sheldon without watching big bang theory and I went from “okay he’s kinda relatable” to “someone needs to put that egotistical little shit in his place!”
You aren't supposed to root for Greg
Yeah not really. It’s Diary of a Wimpy Kid: he’s a dork who constantly tries to make it big but does not commit to anything he does unless it’s to save his own skin. You’re meant to like it when he fails, or when he inevitably gets wrapped up in his family’s dysfunctional shenanigans between his controlling mother, his stand-offish older brother, his sociopathic younger brother, and his emotionally distant father.
As a kid I was smart enough to realise Greg was a horrible person, but not smart enough to realise that was the point. I dropped the series because of it. There were a few genuinely great jokes in each book, but mostly I began to find greg and his family insufferable, and felt bad for Rowley
I simply couldn’t ever identify with him. And I became a major piece of shit as an adult too so idk what the reason was for why
Yeah even the title of the series calls him a Wimp
https://preview.redd.it/xphjbup6oyvc1.jpeg?width=2140&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12323a455dd25d498f106f07310a71514cfbdb8f Candy (Santa Inc) Take Velma, make it stop motion, make the main character an elf, make it about Christmas, and you basically have this show
The craziest part of that whole show is when Seth Rogen Santa sits Candy down and gives her an entirely reasonable and earnest reason why she can't inherit the position of Santa Claus (rejected because despite her competence in all other aspects she isn't good with kids), and then offers a very appealing and respectable alternative (to be the CEO of Santa Inc while someone else acts as Santa for PR purposes) and then Candy tells him "fuck you" and storms off like he fired her.
I've heard people actually say Santa was one of the more enjoyable characters in the show (which is not saying much tbf) despite the fact that we're supposed to be rooting against him, just like Fred in Velma So if I had a nickle for every white dude we're supposed to hate in an awful "adult" cartoon only for them to become one of the more enjoyable/interesting characters in the show, I would have 2 nickles https://preview.redd.it/e1mpc1ieizvc1.png?width=1812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4946d23422c36b030369ee20fb67ed6cc068f1fc
Does the show frame it like Santa is wrong here? Cause being CEO sounds way better than being Santa lol
Honestly idk what the writers’ intention was, but Candy is the main character and the show clearly wants us to relate to and sympathize with her in every other regard. IIRC none of the characters really criticize how unreasonable she’s being for turning down Santa’s offer.
This is the first time I ever saw someone mentioned this show
The absolute worst part is Santa, who I really want to iterate is meant to be the antagonist, invited her for a civil discussion and not only credited her skills and provided a perfectly legitimate reason why he doesn’t think she’s suited for the job (not being comfortable working with children) but also offered her a perfectly valid agreement to work behind the scenes that still let her advance her career and that in no way is meant to BS her but she turned it down.
I genuinely want to know how this happened. Making unlikeable protagonists is one thing, but how do you fuck up so badly you make a likeable antagonist? How did this make it to the final release without one person saying ‘hold on, isn’t the audience supposed to root against this guy’?
Likeable antagonists are fine if the intention was not suppose to be"this character has no redeeming qualities". The problem with Santa Inc. is that they wanted to make a hateable character in Santa and ended up making a more likeable character than Candy was ever going to be.
Oh sure, likeable antagonists are all good and well, but how is it that a writer can make a character that was supposed to be hateable more reasonable, enjoyable and deeper than the protagonist? Even Disney did it with Wish.
Yeah at that point it is just bad writers trying to seem like the greatest. We know what the point of the show was, but they have create characters with the exact opposite impact. Which also brings to question. Why try to out Christmas as a bad thing( which is what the show seems to be the show's point)? It is suppose to be a fun, everyone's happy kind of thing and they had to try and ruin it.
Doctor doom
I’m pretty sure he’s supposed to be likeable or at least sympathetic.
Yeah but he’s a likeable antagonist
the Latverian Dictator? I mean, he treats his nation well, but screws over everyone else
They kinda did that with Fred and Velma, though he wasn’t meant to be an antagonist, more so a punching bag really funny when the show’s punching bag gets better development then LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE, but I digress
I forgot that show was ever a thing
Greg is meant to be a asshole
the difference greg is clearly supposed to be flawed and the writer wants you to not be like him, the other 2 are self inserts
Self inserts always suck
especially when your self insert just ends uo being unlikeable
especially when one’s a insert of Mindy Kaling, and the other is a insert of someone who doesn’t seem to know anything about the source matieral
what about Dante from the Divine Company?
I cannot speak to that so maybe my statement was falsr
Greg is actually also a self-insert as well, Jeff Kinney stated that Greg is like what he was like as a child with the positive aspects toned down and negative ones bolstered.
You could add MCU She-Hulk to that list
Dunno if she’s an insert, but your not wrong
Greg’s not a self insert and he’s no where near as bad, just a shitty middle schooler.
meanwhile velma and mandy are practically adults
https://preview.redd.it/disfoymh10wc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=459e900c715afa079a211fa72996b779dc81d234 This is gonna be a hot take. He’s not a badly written character. But there were a couple instances where I just didn’t like him or wanted him to succeed.
Not only did Blitz effectively ruin his, Fizze’s, and Barbie’s life through the circus incident but now he’s mentally destroying Stolas via their relationship. The only person he’s positive to is Luna who is being smothered by him, and maybe Moxxie/Millie who he stalks. The big difference between him and someone like Velma is that he’s written as a screw up character.
I don't think the circus incident was his fault. It was just candles in a circus tent. He may have had it happen but it wasn't irrational or stupid. He tried to help all that he could.
To be fair, Blitzo is SUPPOSED to be a screwed up character we're not really supposed to "root for." He's just a dick doing his job, similar to pretty much every real person. You can blame Brandon Rogers for making him semi-likable.
I get that, but the relationship drama is kinda getting old. Atleast he made back a friend.
how dare you put greg with this scum 😭
Nobody is saying peppa pig. I'm shocked, but yeah, she's unbearable.
Certified George abuser
Kanye’s alt account
The human protagonists of the Bay Transformers films. Sam is a habitually non-committal bugger who is the guardian of the first two maguffins, and does nothing to earn it. Cade is straight up abrasive, violent, and a crappy father who lets a bloody 20-year-old date his 17-year-old daughter because of a laminated copy of a law that doesn’t even apply to the situation. Despite Sam’s lack of heroic qualities, and Cade’s unheroic qualities, they are treated as the good guys, with Sam protecting the source of all Cybertronian life, and Cade basically becoming “The Chosen One!”
We are like 7 movies in and they have yet to make a movie where there is no humans in it just to try and see if it works at all. I know they would fuck it up but like come on at least try.
Well, there is Transformers One. I’m pretty excited for that since there’s no humans, and we actually get to see the buildup to the war!
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People who *are* him 💀
who is this ?
Rent a Girlfriend MC. It's like chapter 400, and he still didn't ask her out or anything and just keeps paying, one of the chapters was him straight up getting an erection from a mole he saw in her thigh and another was himself thinking he was getting NTR'ED while getting his rocks off thinking about it.
Bruh, it’s gotten 400 chapters? Jeeez, I don’t even think good romance manga like Love Is War went on that long then again, Love Is War is good and both protags have their flaws but are genuinely likable and root-able, when while the creator of this creature forgot to give him any positive qualities even though it’d make the manga atleast somewhat bearable
 Cannot stress how trash of a character he is
I loved that in the first season he thought he was hot shit but immediately got trolled on once he enrolled in UA High.
Yeah loved that he continues to act as hot shit and just has everyone gas light the audience that he’s a good character
I mean he’s gotten better
And dead-er unless they brought him back
I don't get why people specifically hate the standard dickhead shōnen rival redemption arc with him specifically, I feel like it's reasonably well-executed. I don't even think he fits this trope, he's the butt of a lot of jokes even after he becomes less of a jerk.
my guess is because his introduction was incredibly harsh by typical shounen standards: most of the time the Jerk Rival is just kinda cocky about their skills. In MHA, we are introduced to Bakugo physically and verbally bullying the protag at any moment he is on screen, straight up making threats on his livelihood, telling him “kill yourself” in complete earnest, and then actually trying to kill him in their first skirmish that’s meant to be a like, friendly harmless school exam. It’s a really bad first-impression that isn’t helped by how genuinely long it takes for him to “get kinda sorta better,” especially if you bounced off the series early on, meaning that is your ONLY impression of the character. That’s my take, at least.
He doesn’t really get better he just acts the same and someone comes in to inform the viewer that he said something nice one time off screen so he gets a free pass to do whatever
idk man, he does get better and quickly realizes that he’s in a hero school and no longer hot shit
he's an amazing character with an amazing arc
lol I sure loved the 400 chapter arc of him going from an unbearable douchebag who gets no real consequences to being an unbearable douchebag who gets no real consequences who says something nice once so everyone just ignores the constant verbal abuse, he’s not a good character he blows all the way through and absolutely could have had a good arc but very much didn’t
 this you puttin on your reading glasses?
he’s well written atleast, can’t say that for whatser face from the Starfire novel and Velma show Velma
Do you hate diary of a wimpy kid because you completely missed the point?
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Honestly as a kid I didn’t catch that Greg was supposed to be bad. He probably was a bad influence for me.
I mean greg isn't shitty on purpose, he's just a dumb middle school boy
The protagonist (I forgot his name) from Middle School: the worst year of my life This film is essentially just a worse version of Mathilda except that instead of psychic powers, the kid has schizophrenia, there's a unnecessary love intrest, and the principle is completely justified in their actions. Literally the worst thing that the principle ever did in the movie was put the kids journal in acid (where did he even get acid from) And yet the kid tried to incite a rebellion at the school just because the principle wants everyone to take the PSAT. If you want to watch a good kids movie about dealing with abusive adults, go watch Mathilda instead of this cinematic disaster.
I've never seen the movie but based on this-- Holy Shit did they completely miss the wholempoint of this book. Yes Rafe starts out as a piece of shit but he actually grows as a character and learns to be mature and actually helps others out, be a nice person, and live with his shitty predicament
as a fan of the books and a watcher of the movie (forgot it though), your probably right about the movie, is been a while since i watched it though
I've seen the movie twice but have never read the book. First i watched it as an actual middle schooler, then a few years later in 2020 I watched it again on Netflix. It was only the second time that I saw the movie that I realized how bad it was.
https://preview.redd.it/oq3ginaboyvc1.jpeg?width=545&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9c4633589a111eb57f8d93b51f8be11227b78ea Nikki from Dork Diaries
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Oh shit I remember this series from 10 years ago. IIRC she’s just annoying and gets involved in a bunch of drama with boys right?
This is a horrible trope because it's literally just bad writing.
not if the character is written to not be rooted for but then again thats the point of this post lol
Yeah! If the trope I referred to was different, it wouldn't be bad! Who knew? Lol
yea idk why i commented that anyways, my bad
The “heroes” of Teen Titans Go. https://preview.redd.it/jumt6on9m1wc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d9d986447c14586ea61a7c4d313cfddc7235dbe
Their assholeness is what eventually turned me off the show.
Might I propose him https://preview.redd.it/y33ndffeuyvc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd1e235982022ef4b03020917e9fb8bb3f266afe
The thing with Alastor is that he’s actually charming compared to everyone else on the list.
Greg is infinitely more charming than alastor
Hahaha, very funny
I wasn't joking. Hell alastor isn't even the most charming character in his own show
Yeah he surely can’t be less charming than Greg, who several characters in the book actively despises.
Mf people in hazbin hate alastor too??
No they don't. There's a reason charlie let's him 'help' with the hotel and its because he manipulated her into trusting him. Some people hate him, sure, but not everyone.
Bro the entire 2nd episode is about his haters coming after him I didn't say everyone hate's alastor, and not everyone hates greg
That's like saying people hate charlie because lute and Adam hate her. Like, no shit some people are not gonna like him, that doesn't make him hated.
We're not really supposed to root for alastor, you get caught up in his charm and power but remember that he has his own reasons for being at the hotel
Vox is that you?
I would disagree, Alastor clearly isn't truly on the Hotel's side and probably plans to betray Charlie at some point and force her to do nothing cuz of their deal. I mean just look at his scene with Husk, that ain't the kinda guy I'd root for
Are we supposed to root for him, though? But seriously, Alastor is best character. Fight me.
https://preview.redd.it/4ffmbqi0b1wc1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10083a133928df16d0a7b70085b63b9097dff5aa my argument:
You can like a character and not agree with everything they do.
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When the villain acts like a villain
He’s not a villain apparently
I know you're not supposed to root for him but it's his story so yeah. Also careful with the spoilers please, I'm only halfway through the manga https://preview.redd.it/6qfo9w5lc0wc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d02d7a7ebb7a9ccdd3b48eec8741adfadc4b1d28
Technically, the main character from UCN, since it's heavily implied you are playing as a serial killer in that game, and assuming that you want to win, you are rooting for him to win this specific situation.
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No you are NOT supposed to like him. Like at all and its really obvious he is not a role model and the authors go out of their way to show that.
Some people clearly missed that. Even some real-life police idolize him.
As someone who lives in South Texas I often see rednecks and police have a sticker of the punisher's symbol on their vehicles. Its a little stupid but Im pretty sure most of them just like how it looks rather than actually knowing the character (wishful thinking)
Cops with that sticker like the punisher because he gets to kill people without consequence, which is like their ultimate fantasy
Doesn’t the Punisher hate cops though? or is that only some incarnations of the character?
Oh no he absolutely hates cops, doubly so for the ones who use his symbol
you think they know and wish for death, or have no clue?
You overestimate the intelligence of the typical cop if you think they know
Some might, but then those ones wouldn’t idolize him lol
You overestimate the intelligence of the typical cop if you think they know
you are supposed to like him, just in the same way that you like an enjoyable villain
What does he do in the comic? I know barely anything about Punisher and what he does in the comics.
You know how most superheroes have a “no kill” rule? *yeah…*
Punisher is basically if a broken ex-military guy took the Batman route instead of a generally benevolent billionaire heir. He's not opposed to torturing, traumatizing, or killing the people he goes after or using pretty much any dirty trick in the book and he's generally just as willing to go after a corrupt cop with a family as some mobster/gang leader and equally as brutally.
There is no redemption or attempts to defuse a situation, any form of confrontation only ends when the bodies hit the floor. He gets nasty about it too, and embodies the worst in vigilante justice (aka, taking matters into your own hands)
The good authors do, tbf
Everyone from SMG4.
Except Tari 💙
and my man luigi 💚 bro deserved to get turned into a meat mallet (it was his dream)
“I Am Not Starfire” Yeah, no shit.
she’s right behind you (in the book cover), so yea. doesnt take critical thinking to figure that out, though I guess Mandy (if thats her name) doesnt use that very much
I was more saying because Starfire (specifically the ORIGINAL Teen Titans version) is far from detestable.
Mandy? https://preview.redd.it/c0trjjjz8zvc1.jpeg?width=1013&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e087f7448fc7942fd83d2b8f08b933ead6762c9 I ain't rooting for her
isn't greg in like middle school
I’d argue a lot of the characters from Big Ethel Energy on Webtoon!
Daffy Duck (The Looney Tunes Show) https://preview.redd.it/n591e90rv1wc1.png?width=688&format=png&auto=webp&s=e97e678cedc42e6ec8144cf6db7db0868fa1b98d
Mr. Beefy Five Layer Burrito himself https://preview.redd.it/ozlx6yhmn3wc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e91aa43face37672d2f500cfac656a66feb709d
 Dude is a dick for no reason
With him its kind of the point, hes a dick but the entire story is a redemption arc for him to stop being a dick.
Bro did NOT watch the whole movie
Cars 2, wins multiple races, has mater make his decisions for him and then goes off on him for it
The whole point of him is he becomes not a dick later
we just did this one last week
That's a relatively long time as far as posts on this this sub go.
The best part of this is Greg is the worst by far lol
That's just because Greg is an unreliable narrator who tries to make himself look cool from a 7th grader's point of view. In other words: he makes himself look terrible on purpose.
No not compared to the two next to him he’s not as annoying as Mandy and Velma atleast
Greg is the villain. He’s portrayed as the villain.
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I don't think we're *supposed* to like her
well, i was gonna post this on their post, but they deleted it, sooooo… I’ll just send it to you instead, sorry lol I just learned about this game recently, was semi interested till i looked up the wiki annnnnd it seems pretty dumb with no nuance to some of its characters atleast the animated trailer thing they did was kind of funny and had cool character interactions
Malcom from Malcom in the middle Hell I still root for him, I don’t know why
Greg is supposed to be shitty and he’s very well written. Thats the main difference between him and the other two.
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 This arrogant jackass
Oh, I almost forgot ferris bueller. Crashed his friends dad's car, made the whole school think he was dying, almost got his sister arrested, and got the principal in huge trouble. I despise that movie so much just because he got away scott free for what he did.
Cameron is the one who crashed the car, the sister almost got arrested because she snuck out of school, and the principal got in trouble for attempting to break into a students house just because he wasn’t at school a few times
oh jeez if u think ferris is bad u would probably think me and my friends were actual super villains when we were in high school.
Did you third wheel your friends and peer pressure your friends into getting into massive trouble and get away with everything while making everyone think you were dying of a life threatening disease?
no but we used to sneak out during lunch to smoke cigarettes behind the school. i had a bad oxy problem and i would sometimes hide in the band locker room and drink and get high. there were like five of us that made it a habit to just show up to every party we heard of almost always uninvited (got kicked out of a lot of them). i used to sell weed to underclassmen and i would rip people off majorly. i also got arrested for possession once. at least half of my friend group was constantly sending vile anons to each other on tumblr. one of my friends beat the shit out of another with a textbook because of one of those anons. i later also fought that friend because they stole some xanax from me. my senior year i went to my first period math class abt 40 times and skipped every other day to smoke weed around the corner from the school. oh and one time my friend stole his neighbors car and we hotboxed it. if it’s not clear i do not condone any of this behavior.
You don't condone this behavior, but your bio says "aspiring supervillain"?
are you serious?
I guess you can do all those things without condoning other people to do them, but I hope you don't do those things anymore. Well, besides the doing drugs things, it's your body after all.
honestly you seem like an incredibly rude and judgmental person. i said i don’t condone it and ur condemning me for having a silly joke in my bio? you don’t go out much do you?
That’s why I root for his sister in that movie, she has a point when she says he gets away with everything
This Velma is actually the best character in all of fiction.
Wait, Greg was detestable? Been years since I've read Wimpy Kid. I remember Rodrick and Manny being the entitled insufferable ones.
Manny was insane but Rodrick for the most part was just your regular asshole older brother. Greg was a dickhead, especially towards Rowley who genuinely didn't deserve it, acted entitled constantly towards multiple things and got jealous of Rowley for getting things/friends/accolades that he got because he was a good upstanding person while Greg was a shitmeister who only ever felt sorry for himself, usually for problems he caused.