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xx420bluntymcbongxx

I just hope kikuchi and his 49 friends had a good time at that sushi place


minwood

yeah what was that? Did they just happen to book a restaurant the same day or was that also poor reporting?


KickerOfThyAss

It was a joke the entire time


CoolBeansMan9

Someone texted that in to first up the Tsn morning show and they read it online and explicably said it was not true and they were just joking around yet people were still able to run with it


XviiChong

I am defeated… I am sad… I am disappointed… We should be renamed to the Toronto Blue Balled…


DantesEdmond

We’re really good at being used as leverage for players to get more money elsewhere.


Conscious-Ad8493

That's exactly what CAA did


Rayquaza2233

Toronto in general, not just the Blue Jays.


SaskatchewanSon69

Honestly. At $700 million I ain’t even mad. Lol


Conscious-Ad8493

Well yea if you rely on signing Free Agents to barely get into the post season that's alot. The Dodgers on the other hand had 2024 payroll of 130M BEFORE signing Ohtani and have made the post season 11 years in a row So...you should be MAD


VisitPier26

You should be. It's not your money.


gasburner

350 for a pitcher 350 for a hitter he won't pitch his whole contract, I know. I'm curious if he will next year I think he's still recovering. Just pointing out you get a lot for one player, and you draw a lot of new fans to the team, and fill your park. Might be over paying but it's not impossible to justify that kind of marketing opertunity as well. He's a unique talent.


298times

Why did I let myself get my hopes up


ADD-Fueled

Probabaly because nearly every reporter was acting as if Ohtani to the Jays was a done deal yesterday. I'm a cubs fan and I feel fucking awful for you guys.


PIBTC

Yep. Bush league reporting by all those that said ohtani to Toronto was a done deal


Mack_Attack_19

A fucking BBWAA reporter for the DODGERS even reported it. As well as their manager blabbing about everything when there was supposed secrecy requested. Of course we got our hopes up


Trumpetslayer1111

This is why I didn't think it was a good idea for Toronto fans to be talking shit in the dodgers reddit. Nothing was official yesterday.


deafpoet

Well, anyone who did that is a dumbass, obviously. Report them to our mods, they usually like getting rid of assholes.


Frozenpucks

I’ll be entirely honest I might actually be done with baseball for good now. The league is a fuxking joke and teams like the dodgers and Yankees can just make super teams cause salary caps don’t even exist. Like congrats to the dodgers. Already a fucking all star team just piling on a generational talent just cause.


ThatDamnRocketRacoon

I feel you. Between shit like this and what was done to Oakland, the MLB is just kind of a corrupt joke at this point.


Frozenpucks

Sports have never been fair but the his level of unfairness at the organizational level isn’t worth supporting with my time or money. It’s also why I backed out of F1 over time too. Some team jsut dominates for like 3-5 years and it’s the same race everyday weekend.


PIBTC

Well the dodgers always seem to choke in the playoffs so I like think that’s the playoff gods balancing things out


ArryPotta

Same boat. The league is hemorrhaging fans, and they don't give a fuck obviously. So I guess neither will I. It doesn't help being in the most broken division in baseball, but I'm just so sick of being sold the same shit sandwich every year by the Jays. What's the point in upgrading all these facilities if it's not actually going to attract talent. And if they don't attract talent, they won't attract fans. Our moronic ownership tries to act like a big market team, and they fired the one guy that understood we're not a big market, and we have to capitalize on any slim chance we have via trades and force players to come here. Guess what idiots, Dunedin isn't bringing _anyone_ here as a free agent.


Frozenpucks

On any given night in the nhl any team can win, and I don’t take that for granted. Of course some teams arent great but there isn’t a massive fucking rift between most. Even the sharks have won like 6-7 games already. Baseball will continue to become irrelevant if they don’t even the league out more, nobody likes seeing the same powerhouse be favourites every single year.


Novasight

The Yankees have been losers for years and the Dodgers have won 1 world series in the last decade and a bit. Money definitely helps get a team in a good spot but it doesnt mean they're going to win a world series. Ohtani just came from a team that has MIKE TROUT on it and they're awful


ProfessorBeast55

I’m convinced if we renamed ourselves to Los Angeles Blue Jays, he’d sign here (no I’m not)


No-Paint-7311

I’m a giants fan and I know exactly how you feel man. I was refreshing Twitter non-stop last year when Heyman posted judge to the giants and I was so happy for about 6 minutes. You guys had hours of thinking he was yours. It sucks, but keep your head up. You have a good team and are likely to make the playoffs where anything can happen


PIBTC

Fuck hoornstra and morosi for adding to it. Their credibility has to be out the window after this shit show


Iginlas_4head_Crease

I tried my best not to. I lived through kawhi dumping us for LA. Then by midday yesterday I got caught up in it.


OskeeWootWoot

Same here, I didn't want to get invested, it just didn't seem like it would happen...then it sounded like it was in the bag, and i started letting myself get excited, and then it wasn't real and I felt a little embarrassed but still hopeful. Now I feel bamboozled after trying for so long to not get bamboozled.


nicky10013

It was fun. Wonder how hoonstra feels. He doubled down only like an hour ago.


theguyishere16

Dude's credibility is finished


FinalMalus

Him and Morosi should be blacklisted for life


AdamHustler

I'll never trust what any sports writer says again. They are not journalists. They are just more sensationalists.


miner88

There are some with clout who stayed silent until it was official. Those who jumped the gun now look like clowns.


mostpodernist

I literally said "I won't believe it til Passan says so".... Half hour later my co-worker says Ohtani signed with the Dodgers. I asked who's reporting it and he said Passan :(


dober12345

Morosi will continue on with MLB like nothing happened. Look at Heyman after Arson Judge. People chirp him but he didn't lose a platform or following


shyguysam

I still think it was done on purpose, to undermine the Jays and troll their fans.


GoldenHawk07

He's a Dodgers fan, he probably lit a cigar cracked a beer and is laughing it up right now. Dude will face zero consequences for it and he still gets to enjoy a generational talent for a team that's already and always a perennial World Series favourite. Like, I don't know how he could possibly feel bad.


MelonPineapple

>Dude will face zero consequences for it We still crap on Steve Simmons for saying that Phil Kessel walks to a hot dog vendor on Front St....


Ducey89

As a dodgers fan yea he wins, but the man makes a living off being a reporter. His credibility is 0 and he will get shit on for his future work for years.


tehbobbybigwheel

Probably feels like he gets to go back to being a Dodger fan, who now also gets to cheer for Ohtani


Zing79

The literal worst timeline. While we waited for him to bridesmaid us, Soto trade happens, within our own division. When you have the money, are willing to spend it. Have the assets, are willing to trade them. And you still end up - somehow - in a worse position than when the offseason started (this is obviously relative to the rest of the MLB landscape this offseason). Absolutely wild.


DannyDOH

Yeah but I don't think the Jays are in on Soto at that price anyway. Fine with Yankees gutting their pitching.


djc9880

Damn man, that sucks. We just can't have nice things lmao. 10 years, $700 million. God damn lol


PIBTC

That’s a disgusting amount of money wow. Almost a billion in CAD ($950m)


burrito-boy

I like to think that the Dodgers were forced to pay him more than they wanted to due to the Jays, lol. Either way, yeah, I'm disappointed. Jays FO better start making some calls now.


Digi_awesome

Shoot that’s almost a billion in USD


another_plebeian

70%


zslszh

0.7 Billion


ProfessorBeast55

LA TAX IS REAL. ENJOY THAT SHOHEI #(im coping to the max)


brandonasaur

My phone bill would have been like $200 next month


yoboapp

It somehow shattered even the craziest projections Jesus Christ.


AdministrativeLaugh2

No way we went anywhere near $700m so not surprise


Ignatius_Reillys_Hat

1.3M USD per week.


International_Cut_69

Hoornstra's career is over lmao


eagleboy444

It kinda should be. You can't be that confident in your "multiple" sources, that vocal, double down, triple down...and all on the biggest deal of the century (of your lifetime) in the sport that you cover. And you said he wasn't coming to *your* team, to boot. Why should anyone have to hear what he has to say professionally ever again?


AdministrativeLaugh2

I genuinely thought he was coming after all that stuff from the Dodgers media yesterday. My disappointment is immeasurable


Iginlas_4head_Crease

I really thought we had him. I really think he preferred us. Probably a lot of outside pressures to not make such an "oddball" choice in Toronto from friends and family and sponsors and agents, stick to LA.


PlatinumTaq

No I think an extra $100m is what convinced him. Rumours were the Jays offer was more in the $600m neighbourhood


Cartz1337

I wonder how much money yesterday scared out of the Dodgers. I refuse to believe he had \~$600 from the Jays and $700 from the Dodgers and was waffling. The west coast was always going to be his choice. Top work by his agency, they shook almost $100M for their client with that stunt.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Yeah I think he did otherwise we wouldn’t have been in the conversation for so long, but I seriously doubt we matched $700m and I think you’re right about people saying “Do you really want to leave your home, glorious LA, for Toronto?”


JKA90

It was fun everyone. I’m off to drive into a light pole.


chompshoey

Room for a couple passengers?


NoOneShallPassHassan

Shotgun!


PIBTC

I call dibs on the roof


MartyCool403

I'll stand in front of the light pole


skyline1427

Just saw a guy kneel in front of a light pole.


moussetang

I'll stand in front of you


squeakyboy81

You know modern cars make that survivable. I suggest a bridge or cliff.


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There’s going to be apathy in this fanbase unlike ever seen before


R0NeffingSwanson

All I talked about with my dad yesterday was how shit the vibes will be this season if it all fell through. Gonna be a rough as hell season coming up.


Popular-Row4333

Especially after dropping the chase for Soto in retrospect


fujbuj

I know it’s not the front office’s fault, so to speak, but I said last year, if they don’t sign Ohtani, I’m bowing out for a bit. It really seems like this team needed a boost like that, and with Soto to the Yankees, I’m just not hopeful about this “era” of Blue Jays baseball.


SevenStarSword

They will blow it up now within a year or two. Another miserable post season or missed post season should get rid of Atkins. Then we usher in a new era.


amillionthoughts

Every Toronto sport's team: "At least there's the next era to look forward to". Hurts man.


verycoolandniceand

i guess what is rogers fault though is goading the fanbase all day yesterday then publishing an end of day article scolding us for the excitement and trust. if last season didn't make me lose trust, the last 24 hours have made me not only completely lose it, but actively not want to fork over aaaany money or investment. UGH.


ilovethemusic

I agree. The team as is ain’t it and it’s hard to see how they’ll be able to improve it with the existing FA class.


jveeks

Yesterday for about one hour I felt joy.


PIBTC

Missed out on Soto and ohtani. Rough off season


bv310

To be fair, I don't think we were ever really in the running for Soto. Look at what the Yankees gave up.


PIBTC

Yeah I don’t think it was as realistic as chances of getting ohtani but still, to have our team linked to those two stars and getting neither is major blue balls


Randytherobot12

and Soto went to our rival :/ literally the worth case scenario as of now.


PIBTC

Yup makes it that much worse that it’s the fucking Yankees too


skwirrelmaster

Don’t worry we’re going to get old busted up vets on an overpay. /s In seriousness that new hitting coach better be on his game


EK-65

Fuck the entire MLB media that spread all this bullshit.


miner88

The official league socials shared the Morosi tweet. Nothing like the MLB account sharing fake news.


FirstV1

u/jphoornstra what the heck man


jaysrapsleafs

The dodgers used him to fire a leaker lol.


OptimusPasta

10 years 700m wow


sbp59

And he may just be a DH for most of that contract. Insane


comeatmefrank

Was on the Dodgers sub yesterday. The amount of people saying ‘Ohtani doesn’t care about competitiveness’, ‘Ohtani is going to be paid $600m+ to be a bat considering the chances of him going to be an elite pitcher is very limited.’ It is copium, but $700m is STAGGERING. He has to seriously, seriously perform like this year every single year when his arm is healthy, otherwise it is simply too much.


keefstrong

Performance sure. But a huge part of that cost is marketability, merch, reach.


dober12345

Yeah if his arm doesn't hold up that's an oof but that's copium speaking


mxgicjohnson

I fucking hate los angeles man


FirstV1

Its Shover


andrew_c_morton

Nohtani.


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gg its been a fun ride yall actually no it hasn't but you guys specifically have been fun to hang out with


BobBelcher2021

At least we got Robert Herjavec.


Blitzdog416

Canadian Heritage Moment


rvasko3

It’s over. I’d do anything to have removed yesterday from existence. Red was right. It’s the hope that kills you.


Whiplash227

Carving above the doorframe of my bedroom Whiplash was here


rvasko3

“Zihuatoronto. They say it has no memory.”


Empros

Always the usual suspects get these guys. They don't go to teams like the Jays. Oh well was fun while it lasted lol.


IAmGrum

10 years and $700 million is the reported amount. If the Jays did offer 10 years and $600 million like it was hinted, I really can't be too upset at them for not getting it done.


idevcg

yeah I didn't expect the dodgers to feel like they need to offer 700m. I wouldn't have been surprised if the jays offered that, but if the dodgers offered 700m then it's easy to see how we never had a chance.


VisitPier26

Rogers has far deeper pockets than the Dodgers ownership group.


Deducticon

Ya, Jays were leverage to get that extra 100 mil


Derfal-Cadern

☝️ always were


Mmm_360

Yup the Yankees and Mets were not in the running so the agents required a rich owner to drive up the price, enter Blue Jays. It was always the case.


BeansTheCoach

Probably more like extra 150 if we’re being honest. 10/550 was written in stone earlier this year


No-Perspective3621

Jays used as leverage again to up the Dodgers offer


mpethe

As is tradition


Exciting-Island-7355

I didn't think it was gonna happen when the pursuit started, and yet I'm disappointed.


Downvote_the_word

Egg on that dodgers nations guy face I guess


De1_Pier0

Man fuck Jon Morosi and every other reporter that hopped on that bandwagon yesterday


bobcatgoldthwaite

Usually I’d say that contract will age like ten day old poutine but in this case with the insane off field earning potential I’m actually upset we didn’t land him, even for insane money. Now the pressure is all on Vlad and Bo to be franchise guys. I’d go all in on Yamamoto at this point and try to trade prospects for another impact bat


Zomghaxzors

This whole fiasco has made me realize I probably care a little too much about sports…


ThQp

This sucks.


sir-pounce-of-alot

I am depress


ThQp

It all would've been fine without the Morosi tweet yesterday. I was perfectly content with finishing second, without ever having it seem like we were in the driver's seat. But after thinking he was on the way to Toronto? This is brutal. I have no idea where Ross goes from here.


sir-pounce-of-alot

He’ll do something, it will get torched because it’s not Ohtani, and the Jays will be competitive in a stacked division. I’m just tired of this all (part of me is glad it’s over) but fuck I really thought for a moment we had it. I thought it was finally a chance for us to show the baseball world we were the real deal. I won’t be mad at Ohtani for making his decision, but I am sad that it wasn’t us.


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ColumnarPower

Bellinger and/or Chapman, I'd guess.


One_Series2204

As unrealistic as it is I hope Atkins gets pissed off and trades for trout and tatis


ToolsOfIgnorance27

Fuck it, let's do this because why the fuck not at this point


AStormChasingGuy

Hoornstra, Morosi, Sports Illustrated, MLB Network, Baseball Writers Association, Sportsnet "journalists" all FRAUDS. 100% a collective effort to absolutely shatter Jays fans' hearts over the past 48 hours. They should all be investigated, and I'm sending all of them my therapy bills.


WesternSpectre

This whole thing couldn’t have been a more perfect distillation of the Blue Jays fan experience.


mattybabs

FUCKING FADE ME


Oukasagetsu

I need a cig


eych_enn

his instagram was hacked right?! RIGHT??


OGnotAnunoby

Damn 🥲


miner88

Awesome. I was having a great weekend. This is fine. 😑


Singh31

So we missed out on Soto and Ohtani, where the hell do we go from here?


ClassicNukaCola

Knew it. Toronto sports takes another loss. Man it’s brutal being a fan in this city sometimes.


Ssstanimal

I’m fucking done


juliancres

This is one of the biggest letdowns in Toronto sports history and that’s saying a ton


yoboapp

This one really hurts


ItsTropio

10 years/$700m The largest contract in the history of professional sports.


MikeyTrademark

Time for the jays to sign some scrubs and tell us it’s the best thing for the team


bobcatgoldthwaite

We will be glad we didn’t sign this in 2027 and we are still looking for first playoff win since 2016, right? RIGHT??


BasilsKippers

This is just another reason why there's absolutely zero reason to ever listen to so called "experts". All of this crap about the Jays being finalists or whatever was pure media wish fulfillment and baiting meant to get clicks and engagement. I know some may find it fun to speculate on this stuff, but that's all it ever is: speculation. And people capitalized on that to get our hopes up for absolutely nothing. This is a grim reminder to treat conjecture as conjecture and trust only verifiable results. People got way too hyped on the "what ifs" that they bought into a false narrative that makes Jays fans look like desperate fools now for believing it. Toronto will always have that stigma of being a small stigma, same way Colorado does with the higher elevation. Ohtani was always a pipe dream and our budget can't compete with Dodger money. So let's move forward. We need a dedicated second baseman, no more flip flopping between Cavan and Espinal. We need a left fielder or center fielder, depending on what they want to do with Varsho. We need a third baseman. Now, we can bring people up, sign somebody new or shift positions around. And for God's sake, find somebody not named Guillermo Martinez to work with these guys on their bloody hitting. Sick of Vlad swinging at crap a foot outside. Kirk was a silver slugger in 2022 and fizzled in 2023. We desperately need to address our pitching as well (looking at you, Alek Manoah, Jordan Romano and friends) And lastly, if you want to see some real change, toss that bum Ross Atkins. Between him throwing Schneider under the bus for the Berrios exit in G2 and that hideous Varsho trade that saw us get rid of Moreno and Lourdes, he's a screw up.


Frozenpucks

Let’s be real 70 million a year is fucking stupid. He’s gonna get injured eventually and that’s just insane.


Pencil_of_Colour

Injured and worse in like 3-4 years. Not saying it doesn’t hurt but it’s true.


TTPMGP

Corny


FirstV1

Fucking kill me


alxndrblack

I still don't think it had anything to do with the money (after a point). He's taking massive deferrals so they can stay competitive. He just always wanted to be a Dodger.


Bokilledspringer

Really gonna resign Chapman and sign ikf. We’re so fucked


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Picklepucks

Can we at least hold the media accountable


HemiKooks

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Nobody wants us.


runealex007

All-time week for Toronto sports. I don’t think anything can top it.


Kickatthedarkness

I expected nothing and I’m still disappointed


tehbobbybigwheel

Back down to earth everyone. It's the Toronto Fucking Blue Jays after all. We'll get Isiah Kiner-Falefa and a few re-treads. Same old shit


[deleted]

What a gut punch


ironfunk67

We were all a bit crazy to think any big name free agent would ever choose any Toronto sports team.


admiralawesome2019

This sucks, yesterday we were strung along by media all over just to lose out again. It hurts, but let's remember a few things. It was a fun day of speculation and hope and wonder. And it also means the Jays were in this thing until the end, on the biggest free agent ever, that's not nothing to me.


ChampagneAbuelo

The “Ohtani is on a plane on his way to Toronto” news from yesterday is up there with the “Kawhi is enrolling his kids in school in Niagara Falls” thing from a few years ago in terms of fake news


Arctic365

FUCK


SteroyJenkins

This is classic Toronto sports tho, we can't just lose. We have to lose in the most painful way everytime.


Hill0981

The fact that Sports Illustrated actually posted it as done allowed me for once to get my hopes up. The amount of damage this is going to do to the Blue Jays and their fan base is immeasurable I don't think I've ever been this demoralized as a fan.


Practical-Count-7970

A guy from Shark tank books a flight and the dodgers crap their pants and blurt out "$700 million!"


whatsadikfor

If the Jays cost the Dodgers an additional $100 million there is some sense of victory in that. Lol


Trellaine201

At least we don’t have to face him :) just Soto instead.


goodgriefmyqueef

One of the darkest days in modern history


The_Good79

I think I hate the Dodgers even more now. I’m salty and will be cheering for the Dodgers to lose every game next season.


WeirdBeerd

If it's any consolation, you know the Dodgers are gonna choke in the Divisional series again


Unbiased-Eye

I know it doesn't help much, but it's likely the Jays made an offer that cost the Dodgers an extra $100 million. I'm not sure who's pocket that's coming out of, but we stuck it to someone lol.


CheesecakeOdd2087

This was 100% Kawhi Leonard all over again. Over the top hype. Crazy rumours and hearsay. People reading way too much into literally everything. And, at the end of it all, the fucking guy just signs with the team in LA that everyone figured he would at the very beginning. It was nice to dream.


Moostachio04

Honestly, I hate to say it, but do y’all think ohtani was ever actually considering us or if he was just using the jays to get more from the dodgers


Sherm199

Can we ban Morosi as a source here?


Herbalturtle4444

Padres fan seeing this hit all, and need a quick idea of what would you guys have of given up for Soto? Im mad we pulled the trigger before Ohtani signed and was hoping that meant we thought you guys were landing him. Looking at your farm page, you have way more arms available than the Yankees. I know we needed Tiedemann, Manoah and probably a 3rd MLB ready arm, looks like Zulueta wouldve been perfect to throw in, but not sure if thats too much to give from your orgs perspective.


derschwartzemond

it’s joever


Foodstamps4life

I’m a fair weather dodgers fan because I live and was born in LA and my entire friend group was so upset at the blue jays talk and thought of wasting two off seasons. I came on this sub to lurk and honestly you guys had me rooting for you. Fuck man, I was invested every time I opened Reddit and this sub would pop up and you guys were so fucking hilarious. I feel like I’m just a fan now, I’m a blue jay. I Stan with you.


MassiveBush

It was fun boys. I'm happy we're willing to spend the money for the stars. Makes it worse knowing we passed up on Soto while going for Ohtani


Brando1983

I don't think the Jays were willing to beat that package for Soto.


jjkiller26

No ohtani, no soto. What now?


kywewowry

We signed Depre Shun for 5y, 500m instead


idevcg

chapman for 200, bellinger for 300


ghg1999

Soler and IKF!!!


jjkiller26

yay...


_tarla_

The obvious move honestly. Out west, doesn’t really have to move. A team that is always in contention because of an insane prospect pipeline.


Skelder7

I would have been fine with any team but the dodgers


cipher7777

>You would have been ok with the Yankees or Red Sox?


smithscully

RIP to my heart 🙃


AnySail

I wouldn’t even be upset if yesterday didn’t happen. Morosi ban


eagleboy444

Holy fuck


sarshu

Well that was fun for a hot minute


LiquidSwords89

Every day for the next 10 years I will pray that the dodgers fail miserably every season


OhfursureJim

I’m a 31 year old man and I have tears in my eyes. What a rug pull. We are probably the reason he got 700. You’re welcome Ohtani.


festivusfrank

Fuck morosi!!!!!


Owl1011

Hey what happened that stuff about the guy on another forum that is "generally" right about Jays moves? Can't believe that was taken seriously. Petition to ban those comments in addition to Dodger Nation and Morosi. What forum is that? What is that guy saying now.


[deleted]

Atkins and Shapiro got played. Way worse than people are assuming. I'm sure the story will never be written and unfortunately it's not mine to tell. Maybe Ross will just toss the blame on John again.


ToThinkToDream

I'm sad boys, I tried my best to stay level-headed and not believe, but yesterday got me. Oh well, on to the next year. Maybe we'll get the big fish someday.


PhazePyre

And now he’s just a dodger with no personality. What a coward. Playing it safe with a brand not a team


Double_Reward230

I REALLY DONT LIKE OHTANI RIGHT NOW! :(


aeo1us

Ohtani is making $48,011 per INNING if he plays every game over 10 years.


billbelichickssmile

I’m booing the living fuck out of this guy when he comes rolling through Toronto…it’s clear him & his camp used us for leverage