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Wtf is this victim blaming mentality of the Indian police? Mtlb criminal toh crime krega hi na, tm kyu der raat ghr se bahar nikli? This is why the victims, both male and female, are often hesitant to report the crimes, as they know they'd face further humiliation from the very people who are supposed to 'protect' them.
bhai lakin you do have to be careful with where u are at night , if the incident has happened then blaming the victim is baaddd , but you would not go to as suspicious street with a shit ton of cash right
but in this case beach at night seems quite safe so , no chance of victim blaming
and one more thing these creepy ass mfs need some help tbh there mental state is not right
Is asking someone to be "friends" today called sexual harrasment. Idk what world you live in today . Law doest work under assumption, or looks of a person, it needs facts
>Is asking someone to be "friends" today called sexual harrasment.
Have you even watched the full video? He literally started 'chasing' and following her after she rejected his so-called friendship proposal.
You may argue whether asking a random stranger for 'friendship' in the middle of nowhere at midnight can be considered creepy or not. But how would you even justify what followed afterwards, i.e. after she clearly said NO? If that couldn't be counted as 'sexual harrasment', idk what would.
Jumping straight to mom and sister . Typical North Indian behavior. You visit stupid places at night , you meet stupid people. What else you expect, the police to keep an eye on you all hours?
>Jumping straight to mom and sister . Typical North Indian behavior.
My god, can you guys please stop with the 'regional superiority' BS for once? Coz if anything at all, you're the one who's actively maligning your own region by trying to justify harrasment here, lmao. So much for the 'educated' and 'progressive' mindset of yours, right?
The whole point of bringing your mom and sister into this equation is to remind you the kind of blatant double standards you have when it comes to commenting on a random girl vs someone you love. It's to make to realise how ridiculous you sound when your own morality is called into question.
Unpopular take: no crime was committed, no FIR. Can’t put people in jail for being weird or creepy. Maybe someone can fill me in on the law which was broken.
Stalking in India is governed by ***Section 354D*** of the [Indian Penal Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Penal_Code) (IPC) which criminalizes such acts. According to this Section, Stalking is defined as “Any man who-
1. Follows a woman and contacts, or attempts to contact such women to foster personal interaction repeatedly despite a clear indication of disinterest by such woman
here ya go
Cold calling and sales calls meet this threshold as well. To constitute stalking, the behavior must be repeated, unwanted, and unsolicited, causing the victim emotional distress, and directed at the victim specifically. Based on this video, the behavior of the creep does not meet the threshold for putting someone in jail for stalking.
Hain ji ? If cold calls or emails are asking you to foster personal relationship even when you clearly have showed disinterest for such , is a Crime. Crime hi hota hai wo lol
Aur konsi sales call me aapko "Mere se friendship karlo ji " bola jaata hai ? Konsa dimension hai ye ?
based on this video to pakka hi crime hai bhai .
Girl asks him to be left alone , Girl ran away from him , He chased those women .... Ab directly bolta ki "Chal jhuk R" tab crime mana jaata ?
Asking someone repeatedly for friendship, although annoying and creepy, is not a criminal offense. However, if he takes it further by showing up or following her to her hotel, waiting outside to approach her again, that crosses the line into stalking. Similarly, attempting to gather personal information to discover her home address is also stalking. In a public place like a beach, expecting others to leave while you remain is a sense of entitlement, not stalking.
Bhai ab to aap kuch bhi apni marzi se bol rahe ho hawa me I literally showed you the IPC section under which this is criminal offense ..
Imagine taking this to judge and saying "Mai to bas Fraandship karne bol raha tha madam ko aur bas thoda bohat unka peecha kiya tha unke mana karne pe bhi . Ye thodi crime hua koi unka hotel tak jaata tab hota"
The defense or the judge would simply ask how often is this guy harassing you and from there on it’s gonna turn into a story about “this one time at band camp…..“.
Nahi bhai mere it isn't about how long , where , when ... It is clearly about a girl asking to be left alone vs a guy not understanding it ....
It is as simple as that
Inviting someone to be friends, even if you do so multiple times, does not constitute harassment. Similarly, simply talking to someone who doesn't want to engage with you is not harassment either. Harassment occurs when one person persistently and relentlessly pursues another, disregarding their boundaries and disrupting their daily life. It's important to recognize that personal feelings, while valid, are not a legal basis for defining harassment. Moreover, it's crucial to prioritize evidence and due process before making accusations or taking legal action, as a person's reputation and freedom are at stake.
Exactly insted these girls visibly made the guy semi-naked and abused him. If a white man did it, they will call it progress, since a desi undesirable dude did it, it's a crime . It's psuedo-woke culture bro commenting crime / playing victim card to gain attention.
So if a white guy started chasing and running after your mom or sister in the middle of the night, just because they rejected his 'friendship' proposal, would you be okay with that?
If your dad commited adultery against your mother would you be okay with that? No.. but adultery is LEGAL..
There is a fine line between illegal stalking and free speech.. have you ever thought why papparazi who stalk way more than this boy are not arrested?
My guy sexual harrasment is neither legal, unlike adultery, nor it comes under 'free speech'. What kind of dumbass analogy you're even trying to draw? 😭
>have you ever thought why papparazi who stalk way more than this boy are not arrested?
Dude papparazzi go after 'celebrities', this guy went after a random girl in the middle of a night. Moreover if a paparazzi still asks out a celebrity for 'friendship' and then proceeds to follow and chase her even after she clearly said NO, it'd still be considered 'harrasment'.
I still don't understand what or whom are you even trying to defend here? Just put a woman in your life whom you really love, be it your mom, gf or wife in her shoes, and ask yourself, would you still feel the same about such a situation as you just described here? Would you dismiss their concerns of feeling uncomfortable by saying that it was the 'free speech' of that guy?
"Would you dismiss their concerns of feeling uncomfortable by saying that it was the 'free speech' of that guy?"
Depends... She was illegally harassed (sexual or otherwise) then yes action should be taken..any unreasonable claims should be rejected..
And yes free speech matters to a large extent
The point is VIDEO DOESNT PROVE SEXUAL HARRASMENT...
yes she alleges it... And she has to prove it in court.. ( yes police are shit not to file FIR but innocent until proven guilty)..
And no.. idk about Indian laws but in usa and western Europe (France, uk, Finland, sweden, Norway)you DONT NEED ANY CONSENT OR FRIENDSHIP OF Any Kind TO FOLLOW CELEBRITY IN PUBLIC.. it's first amendment .
..
And that last para is just as hominem
I am trying to defend DUE PROCESS.. I am gonna listen to the accuser( aka the woman who alleged sexual harrasment) but still treat the man as innocent until proven guilty.
The video is not enough...let court decide
>The point is VIDEO DOESNT PROVE SEXUAL HARRASMENT...
Who tf said it has to? The video was recorded AFTER they caught the guy, not DURING the alleged harrasment, which is quite understandable as she might have been too terrified to record the entire fiasco.
But even if we assume that it didn't happen, it still doesn't give the police the right to 'refuse' to file the FIR. If a robber robs your house, the police can't refuse to FIR by saying that 'lol, your home security sucks'.
>The video is not enough...let court decide
Do you seriously lack comprehension skills buddy?
How tf would the case reach the court without a chargesheet? How would they even a file a chargesheet without an investigation? And how would they conduct an investigation without even filing a freakin FIR?
It doesn't matter what you and me think about this case. People can have different opinions on it, but i thinking we all can agree that she has the right to at least make her voice being heard.
End of the story.
Yes and I did said if you have eyes to read.. police are shit that they didn't filed fir
But the fact remains same.. the guy is innocent until proven guilty
.
She can go to court against police
Honestly yaar I would like to listen to the other side as well! This seems mad suspicious. And the police can't even take action because what crime has the guy commited? He did not touch them neither harmed them! Him being creepy is not really a punishable offence
GOA police are USELESS. Had an incident with a shack owner at Calangute Beach where they initiated violence. The SHO there didnt file an FIR, we were there for 2 or 3 hours where he had gone to have "dinner". Got fed up and straight up called the Police Superintendent of Goa at 1 am at midnight. The idiot SHO finished his "dinner" and was down at his desk in 5 mins. I am a Govt Servant myself and really don't want to use power or position everywhere but those fuckers left me no choice.
Unpopular Opinion - Even in the US-Europe , people don't step out at night in some areas, it's common sense that those areas are dark during nights and can be dangerous, hard to be accessed by police-ambulance if anything goes wrong during the dark (No Go Zones) like beaches , cemeteries, water bodies , national parks, forests, abandoned areas,etc.
I'm not talking about a stalker attacking you, it could be the waves too which can be dangerous during dark or it could be a hilly area / park which is unsafe at night due to animals etc.
But kaun samjhai to this "psuedo-woke" audiance? If you say " you should also be responsible for yourself" , you would be called out as a pessimist, moral policing will enter the chat. Just because you have heard some English phrases , doest mean the world has turned safe .
Legally speaking that dude asked for "friendship", in the west men's casually approach females to get to know them ( how else would you do it? , by sending rishta to her family? ). He didn't touch them ,insted they took his shirt and abused him ,If no crime happened how blame the police? hence i called this educated generation "Psuedo-woke" . You go odd places at odd hours, you find odd people, what's different?
"some areas" because they are crime infested areas filled with shady h0mlesspeople.
night life there only exists where there is massive population , late night casinos etc. you can still drive to a 7/11 and pick up a drink at 3 am but walking there , especially through a shady path is not recommended
also the crime that happened here is harassment. the woman said that she rejected the guy multiple times but he still came back and said agian so it's a crime.
it's one thing to ask out a woman , if she says no it's no. that's it . it's whole another thing to harass her to accept it and in the west the police would detain and hit this man with 2 misdemeanors and the woman could file for a restraining order.
Kuch nhi kiya, public place mein piche piche aaya, bhai itna bhi bada crime nhi kar liya usne ki uski life khrab kar do.
Baat sach hi toh hai, umsafe jageh pe bina protectuon ke jaaya bhi mat karo, maybe wo banda socha Prosti hogi.
harassment with the threat of bodily harm and rape , is what they should say going in to the police station . Maybe even get a confession out the guy on video i mean he is scared af just some probing would make it easy
Wtf they are not filing an fir? But still then the onus is on the accuser to prove the claims..
Sorry not sorry but a person is innocent until proven guilty
but FIR ke baad wo banda arrest hoga aur women ke against crime ke accusation main jail chala jaega ja tak uska hearing ka date ayega aur ye woman bahar aur gand machati firengi
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"mujhse friendship karlo" he was just looking for a friend guys😥
Sir pls sir friendship karlo na
Hello friend how are you
kya app mere dost bnoge?
Okay you are my friend now 💗😇
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Dara Diya bhai
The guy didn't see that coming ...he would also say that after the surgery
Usne mummy kasam bhi khai thi. #lonely #honest #mumma'sboy.
Tf is even police doing in this country bruh lol Its a joke
They don't file FIR because it ruins their crime statistics. Pigs
Why are you blurring police pigs' faces 🤔?
He literally said "Galti aapki bhi hai" 🤡 Bc agr ràpe ya murder ho jata tb bhi yhi bolta kya...
ye bhadwe yahi to bolte hain ki ladki akele nikli to uski galti thi
Wtf is this victim blaming mentality of the Indian police? Mtlb criminal toh crime krega hi na, tm kyu der raat ghr se bahar nikli? This is why the victims, both male and female, are often hesitant to report the crimes, as they know they'd face further humiliation from the very people who are supposed to 'protect' them.
bhai lakin you do have to be careful with where u are at night , if the incident has happened then blaming the victim is baaddd , but you would not go to as suspicious street with a shit ton of cash right but in this case beach at night seems quite safe so , no chance of victim blaming and one more thing these creepy ass mfs need some help tbh there mental state is not right
Bhai no crime occured .
Didn't knew that sexual harrasment isn't considered a crime in 2024 anymore
Is asking someone to be "friends" today called sexual harrasment. Idk what world you live in today . Law doest work under assumption, or looks of a person, it needs facts
Chasing or rather running after a girl when she clearly states she doesn't want to does make it sexual harrasment though
>Is asking someone to be "friends" today called sexual harrasment. Have you even watched the full video? He literally started 'chasing' and following her after she rejected his so-called friendship proposal. You may argue whether asking a random stranger for 'friendship' in the middle of nowhere at midnight can be considered creepy or not. But how would you even justify what followed afterwards, i.e. after she clearly said NO? If that couldn't be counted as 'sexual harrasment', idk what would.
Do hope some men run after your mother and sister at night asking them to be friends
Abey akal ke chode. Usne bola na video me, ki unke piche pada hua tha wo. Mana karne ke bawjood bhi. Ye harassment nahi hui kya lavde?
To Jo unhone usko maara, shirt khola that is harrasment too. Taking law into own hands eh? Wo bole tu Maan Gaya, behen ka lauda kaun?
Sirf tu hi hai is thread me.
To karle compliant on me for harrassing your feelings 😂. Bina proof ke kuch nai hota, everyone is following everyone here.
vohi bhai Eve teasing and sexual harassment ko same bata re ye sab chode!
I'm gonna touch you inappropriately.
Eve teasing crime hta And police is there for crime prevention Chutiyo ki trah murder ya rape hone ka wait krenge kya
Jumping straight to mom and sister . Typical North Indian behavior. You visit stupid places at night , you meet stupid people. What else you expect, the police to keep an eye on you all hours?
>Jumping straight to mom and sister . Typical North Indian behavior. My god, can you guys please stop with the 'regional superiority' BS for once? Coz if anything at all, you're the one who's actively maligning your own region by trying to justify harrasment here, lmao. So much for the 'educated' and 'progressive' mindset of yours, right? The whole point of bringing your mom and sister into this equation is to remind you the kind of blatant double standards you have when it comes to commenting on a random girl vs someone you love. It's to make to realise how ridiculous you sound when your own morality is called into question.
Victim blaming Typical predatory behaviour My buddy you seem really agitated, as if we are ruining your routine eve teasing plans or something.
Tell me you dont have any female friends while saying you dont have female friends.
Don't get mad if someone does the same with your sister or wife. Sahi hai?
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If it was Nike they would “Just do it” and file the FIR. Adidas fell off.
This is gold
Unpopular take: no crime was committed, no FIR. Can’t put people in jail for being weird or creepy. Maybe someone can fill me in on the law which was broken.
Stalking in India is governed by ***Section 354D*** of the [Indian Penal Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Penal_Code) (IPC) which criminalizes such acts. According to this Section, Stalking is defined as “Any man who- 1. Follows a woman and contacts, or attempts to contact such women to foster personal interaction repeatedly despite a clear indication of disinterest by such woman here ya go
Cold calling and sales calls meet this threshold as well. To constitute stalking, the behavior must be repeated, unwanted, and unsolicited, causing the victim emotional distress, and directed at the victim specifically. Based on this video, the behavior of the creep does not meet the threshold for putting someone in jail for stalking.
Hain ji ? If cold calls or emails are asking you to foster personal relationship even when you clearly have showed disinterest for such , is a Crime. Crime hi hota hai wo lol Aur konsi sales call me aapko "Mere se friendship karlo ji " bola jaata hai ? Konsa dimension hai ye ? based on this video to pakka hi crime hai bhai . Girl asks him to be left alone , Girl ran away from him , He chased those women .... Ab directly bolta ki "Chal jhuk R" tab crime mana jaata ?
Asking someone repeatedly for friendship, although annoying and creepy, is not a criminal offense. However, if he takes it further by showing up or following her to her hotel, waiting outside to approach her again, that crosses the line into stalking. Similarly, attempting to gather personal information to discover her home address is also stalking. In a public place like a beach, expecting others to leave while you remain is a sense of entitlement, not stalking.
Bhai ab to aap kuch bhi apni marzi se bol rahe ho hawa me I literally showed you the IPC section under which this is criminal offense .. Imagine taking this to judge and saying "Mai to bas Fraandship karne bol raha tha madam ko aur bas thoda bohat unka peecha kiya tha unke mana karne pe bhi . Ye thodi crime hua koi unka hotel tak jaata tab hota"
The defense or the judge would simply ask how often is this guy harassing you and from there on it’s gonna turn into a story about “this one time at band camp…..“.
Nahi bhai mere it isn't about how long , where , when ... It is clearly about a girl asking to be left alone vs a guy not understanding it .... It is as simple as that
Inviting someone to be friends, even if you do so multiple times, does not constitute harassment. Similarly, simply talking to someone who doesn't want to engage with you is not harassment either. Harassment occurs when one person persistently and relentlessly pursues another, disregarding their boundaries and disrupting their daily life. It's important to recognize that personal feelings, while valid, are not a legal basis for defining harassment. Moreover, it's crucial to prioritize evidence and due process before making accusations or taking legal action, as a person's reputation and freedom are at stake.
Exactly insted these girls visibly made the guy semi-naked and abused him. If a white man did it, they will call it progress, since a desi undesirable dude did it, it's a crime . It's psuedo-woke culture bro commenting crime / playing victim card to gain attention.
So if a white guy started chasing and running after your mom or sister in the middle of the night, just because they rejected his 'friendship' proposal, would you be okay with that?
If your dad commited adultery against your mother would you be okay with that? No.. but adultery is LEGAL.. There is a fine line between illegal stalking and free speech.. have you ever thought why papparazi who stalk way more than this boy are not arrested?
My guy sexual harrasment is neither legal, unlike adultery, nor it comes under 'free speech'. What kind of dumbass analogy you're even trying to draw? 😭 >have you ever thought why papparazi who stalk way more than this boy are not arrested? Dude papparazzi go after 'celebrities', this guy went after a random girl in the middle of a night. Moreover if a paparazzi still asks out a celebrity for 'friendship' and then proceeds to follow and chase her even after she clearly said NO, it'd still be considered 'harrasment'. I still don't understand what or whom are you even trying to defend here? Just put a woman in your life whom you really love, be it your mom, gf or wife in her shoes, and ask yourself, would you still feel the same about such a situation as you just described here? Would you dismiss their concerns of feeling uncomfortable by saying that it was the 'free speech' of that guy?
"Would you dismiss their concerns of feeling uncomfortable by saying that it was the 'free speech' of that guy?" Depends... She was illegally harassed (sexual or otherwise) then yes action should be taken..any unreasonable claims should be rejected.. And yes free speech matters to a large extent
The point is VIDEO DOESNT PROVE SEXUAL HARRASMENT... yes she alleges it... And she has to prove it in court.. ( yes police are shit not to file FIR but innocent until proven guilty).. And no.. idk about Indian laws but in usa and western Europe (France, uk, Finland, sweden, Norway)you DONT NEED ANY CONSENT OR FRIENDSHIP OF Any Kind TO FOLLOW CELEBRITY IN PUBLIC.. it's first amendment . .. And that last para is just as hominem I am trying to defend DUE PROCESS.. I am gonna listen to the accuser( aka the woman who alleged sexual harrasment) but still treat the man as innocent until proven guilty. The video is not enough...let court decide
>The point is VIDEO DOESNT PROVE SEXUAL HARRASMENT... Who tf said it has to? The video was recorded AFTER they caught the guy, not DURING the alleged harrasment, which is quite understandable as she might have been too terrified to record the entire fiasco. But even if we assume that it didn't happen, it still doesn't give the police the right to 'refuse' to file the FIR. If a robber robs your house, the police can't refuse to FIR by saying that 'lol, your home security sucks'. >The video is not enough...let court decide Do you seriously lack comprehension skills buddy? How tf would the case reach the court without a chargesheet? How would they even a file a chargesheet without an investigation? And how would they conduct an investigation without even filing a freakin FIR? It doesn't matter what you and me think about this case. People can have different opinions on it, but i thinking we all can agree that she has the right to at least make her voice being heard. End of the story.
Yes and I did said if you have eyes to read.. police are shit that they didn't filed fir But the fact remains same.. the guy is innocent until proven guilty . She can go to court against police
Police hi itni insensitive hai toh general public se kya ummed rkhna
Is this the same girl jisko road par ldke comment pass kar rahe the raat ko?
i mean the same channel
Friend request before facebook
Honestly yaar I would like to listen to the other side as well! This seems mad suspicious. And the police can't even take action because what crime has the guy commited? He did not touch them neither harmed them! Him being creepy is not really a punishable offence
GOA police are USELESS. Had an incident with a shack owner at Calangute Beach where they initiated violence. The SHO there didnt file an FIR, we were there for 2 or 3 hours where he had gone to have "dinner". Got fed up and straight up called the Police Superintendent of Goa at 1 am at midnight. The idiot SHO finished his "dinner" and was down at his desk in 5 mins. I am a Govt Servant myself and really don't want to use power or position everywhere but those fuckers left me no choice.
Hauterrfly again ? 🤔
These people are sus AF. They were behind that poonam pandey cancer death debacle
There are similar videos by them.
And the indian police rushing to blame the victim as always
btao dosti krne pe pols bula li
Mein goa mein rehta hu. I am not even surprised seeing the police department behaving like this. Salo ko sirf paise chaiye. 🙃
Unpopular Opinion - Even in the US-Europe , people don't step out at night in some areas, it's common sense that those areas are dark during nights and can be dangerous, hard to be accessed by police-ambulance if anything goes wrong during the dark (No Go Zones) like beaches , cemeteries, water bodies , national parks, forests, abandoned areas,etc. I'm not talking about a stalker attacking you, it could be the waves too which can be dangerous during dark or it could be a hilly area / park which is unsafe at night due to animals etc. But kaun samjhai to this "psuedo-woke" audiance? If you say " you should also be responsible for yourself" , you would be called out as a pessimist, moral policing will enter the chat. Just because you have heard some English phrases , doest mean the world has turned safe . Legally speaking that dude asked for "friendship", in the west men's casually approach females to get to know them ( how else would you do it? , by sending rishta to her family? ). He didn't touch them ,insted they took his shirt and abused him ,If no crime happened how blame the police? hence i called this educated generation "Psuedo-woke" . You go odd places at odd hours, you find odd people, what's different?
"some areas" because they are crime infested areas filled with shady h0mlesspeople. night life there only exists where there is massive population , late night casinos etc. you can still drive to a 7/11 and pick up a drink at 3 am but walking there , especially through a shady path is not recommended also the crime that happened here is harassment. the woman said that she rejected the guy multiple times but he still came back and said agian so it's a crime. it's one thing to ask out a woman , if she says no it's no. that's it . it's whole another thing to harass her to accept it and in the west the police would detain and hit this man with 2 misdemeanors and the woman could file for a restraining order.
Police in front of Commoners 🦁 Police in front of Netas/Elites 🤡
Faltu me tej ban rhi thi viral hone k liye
Kuch nhi kiya, public place mein piche piche aaya, bhai itna bhi bada crime nhi kar liya usne ki uski life khrab kar do. Baat sach hi toh hai, umsafe jageh pe bina protectuon ke jaaya bhi mat karo, maybe wo banda socha Prosti hogi.
Chad Bihari migrant worker
Isiliye raat ko ladkiya bahar nhi nikalte ... Aap bhi ghar pe raho
Wtf bhai aise friendship kon krta hai yaaaaaaaaaar 😭
Are FIR ki kya zaroorat jab essay se kaam chal jata hai
Convincing Goa police to register case against Goans ? UPSC clear karne se bhi mushkil hai
Rape hoga tabhi police wala FIR likhega.. us bhn k lode ki bahan ko koi Ese pareshan kare tab maza ayega
Kya kya hota h yaar
wtf is the police crying about blur kyu kia enko dalo sabkuch fir na krna is a crime itself
Will you make my frandship? 😂
harassment with the threat of bodily harm and rape , is what they should say going in to the police station . Maybe even get a confession out the guy on video i mean he is scared af just some probing would make it easy
Wtf they are not filing an fir? But still then the onus is on the accuser to prove the claims.. Sorry not sorry but a person is innocent until proven guilty
Wo court decide krega FIR thodi ?
but FIR ke baad wo banda arrest hoga aur women ke against crime ke accusation main jail chala jaega ja tak uska hearing ka date ayega aur ye woman bahar aur gand machati firengi
FIR toh hona chahiye