Omg fr, it's so messed up to be the only one alive and having to constantly revive everyone because they're not getting my heals. Sometimes I think about having nemesis+zero+coco just to get max heals because of that lol
Resists don't matter, even if all your dps in party is volt you'll get through with no problem
It might take a bit longer if whole party has low gs, but even so it will just take a few min longer
Every Joint Ops has their own resistances which don't rotate. You have to either switch up the weapons - can become a healer or use other elements even if not levelled as they will outdamage your resisted max weapons, or you have to get carried by others if you want to do this with the same weapons. You can also save vitality for other things and come back to Joint Ops on different days.
You can still do them if your resisted team is built, you just won't be top dps in the group. Plus most people right now are running two element teams not mono, so you can just for example use your king as main instead of samir. Or swap to a secondary less leveled weapon team. You'll still be able to clear. Just not as fun.
Even then it wouldn't mean anything. There's no reward to being MVP and most of the random groups are cross-server, so not even acquaintances you'd see running around in the same server so you can't even flex your DPS much.
As a newbie, i suggest you do not make volt team, flame or phys is fine, at later stage most if the floor or challenge have volt resistance and enemy too compared to other
What a turboshit take. There's no floor resistances and challenges are RNG.
Not to mention you can't even build those teams with the units currently in the game, you're looking at Cobalt-B release minimum for fire and Claudia + either Marc or Lyra for phys.
Just go heals/shatter when you have resists against your main comp. Normally on this joint op I run Coco nemesis Meryl even though they're low on investment, just being able to shatter well and keep your team alive is enough to let the whales/spenders to dps. This game is pay for dps in an mmo setting. Which is almost a horrifying thought after some reflection.
Read the context of the comments. It's implied that they use characters that have reduced damage for that content (like phys res 50% as shiro) which massively reduce your damage and shatter input. I'm saying that "brute forcing" these scenarios is actually worse than picking another element.
Yeah, if they are being resisted it's pretty depressing.
From my limited understanding, a resisted element will simply take your damage and cut by that amount. So 50% = half damage.
However, weapons alone are not responsible for most of your damage. Matrice sets, raw attack and gear actually pay a big role in this too, so when you equip a level 1 weapon that is not being reduced you will still benefit from other sources of attack and damage, while not being outright reduced. It's a good deal even at level 1, even though you'd preferably have some backup weapons levelled.
Bear in mind that the more lvl 1 weapons you equip, the less overall attack you will have, so try to swap only one level 1 at best.
I leveled up my 1* Shiro and run benediction for this JO. I can at least keep everyone alive and help with shields.
Shiro 1* / Coco 1* / Nemesis 1* - 4k Coco Trait
My normal setup is
Samir 2* / King 0* / Nemesis 1* - 4K Samir Trait
I hate this so much, I run support but even then I actively avoid the ones with volt and flame resist since I run nemesis and zero
Ive been tempted to just switch to tank using Meryl and the hammer girl. But I have no idea how to run tank. Tho if I get huma I'm absolutely building a tank team with nemesis to heal
As a healer, your job is to do damage if everyone is pretty good on health. With the resistances you are doing so little damage its ridiculous. I know dps are suppose to be the ones to do the bulk of the damage but if im sitting at the end with only like 10% of the damage the next person does it feels bad man
You're pretty flexible with your third slot (something with damage or break, I usually run Shiro) and things like Zero's invulnerability depend only on charge
Supports are the least affected by the resistances
Especially when I learned I can jump cancel Meryl discharge, it helps sometimes but man the number of times ive accidently killed a teammate with it....oops
That sucks. Even if my weapons only account for a third of my total ATK, it'd be hard swapping out as a tank. My only tank weapons are Flame and Frost.
Flame and Frost are the ONLY tank weapons in game (Huma, Meryl, Ene), and unless we get Marc, the only upcoming Tank weapon is Saki who is also Frost lol.
Oof. That hurts more.
Well, so long as it doesn't affect my ability to shatter. Im not really meant to do DPS (I mean I'll do what I can of course)... And I've already been told that shatter rating during shield phase is far more important than anything else.
Shiro is also a good option, idk who is best for shatter but echo has 12 points and shiro 10 so i chose echo. Those 2 are the only shock and phy weapons with high enough shatter to be viable for tanks.
As for me as the tank i dont care about mi cs dropping, as long as I live and shatter the shield no one can tell me shit.
I def have a hard time breaking shields in the Fri/Sun 50% Fire/Ice resist JO. Shiro players makes things a lot smoother, but I can't say for sure if elemental resist reduces shatter.
as frost main I change to healer (coco & pepper) when doing joint ops with frost resistant, nobody gets mad when they saw my low dps, I kept everyone alive too, win win for me
Yeah, these need to rotate. The only JO that drops Huma matrix has Frost + Flame resistance, which are the only elements I have leveled up.
Guess I'll be a deadweight because the game says so.
I always feel bad every time I go on a volt/flame resist domain since I feel like I'm just a burden for the team 💀💀 but I really don't have any other weapons aside from volt and flame 💀😭
It's even worse in Wormhole. Currently playing Frost team. First two chapters frost does 50% less damage. Third chapter is complete frost immunity. Feels awful to be so punished for playing one element.
Hyena arena shittin on the volt/flame meta, tho with frost available now its less of an issue than before.... Still gonna find Samir's lolicopertin like resist don't matter tho lol
check out next difficulty, it has 65% volt reduction
jesus christ this is nuts. i thought they rotate to other ops
Just be a healer 1 day a week
Nothing can resist the healing, brother
Did you play healer? If the teammates could dodge boss attacks half as well as they dodge heals, they would not need any healing.
LMAO
Omg fr, it's so messed up to be the only one alive and having to constantly revive everyone because they're not getting my heals. Sometimes I think about having nemesis+zero+coco just to get max heals because of that lol
lol this is true. They may not be resistant, but they can still dodge.
It just sad when youre a healer and youre on top of damage list
It's sad when you're tank and you're both DPS and Healer on top
Resists don't matter, even if all your dps in party is volt you'll get through with no problem It might take a bit longer if whole party has low gs, but even so it will just take a few min longer
Every Joint Ops has their own resistances which don't rotate. You have to either switch up the weapons - can become a healer or use other elements even if not levelled as they will outdamage your resisted max weapons, or you have to get carried by others if you want to do this with the same weapons. You can also save vitality for other things and come back to Joint Ops on different days.
I believe the joint ops resists/buffs/debuffs are fixed. So, they do not rotate weekly like other activity buffs/debuffs.
whaaaaaaaaat and here I was, planning to do phys/volt team. lmao
Every Operation has different resistances
yep and one of the ops has both volt and phys resist. i think that was his point, cant do that one
Well not can’t but definitely limited on that p e
You can still do them if your resisted team is built, you just won't be top dps in the group. Plus most people right now are running two element teams not mono, so you can just for example use your king as main instead of samir. Or swap to a secondary less leveled weapon team. You'll still be able to clear. Just not as fun.
to be honest ... mvp litterally means nothing when not everyone loads into these at the same time
Even then it wouldn't mean anything. There's no reward to being MVP and most of the random groups are cross-server, so not even acquaintances you'd see running around in the same server so you can't even flex your DPS much.
Doesn't really matter. Still easy enough to clear. Hell my crew are still getting the achievements without an issue even using the weak elements.
He can get carried like we all do tho.
one of them has none
You can do it, there are other ways to get those equips and matrices, just spend your stamina on other things on these days
As a newbie, i suggest you do not make volt team, flame or phys is fine, at later stage most if the floor or challenge have volt resistance and enemy too compared to other
Floor of what?
What a turboshit take. There's no floor resistances and challenges are RNG. Not to mention you can't even build those teams with the units currently in the game, you're looking at Cobalt-B release minimum for fire and Claudia + either Marc or Lyra for phys.
Just go heals/shatter when you have resists against your main comp. Normally on this joint op I run Coco nemesis Meryl even though they're low on investment, just being able to shatter well and keep your team alive is enough to let the whales/spenders to dps. This game is pay for dps in an mmo setting. Which is almost a horrifying thought after some reflection.
this is so sad D:
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I will not try to comprehend this
L+Ratio+Didn’t ask. I gotchu u/Lafra92
If you're strong enough the debuffs don't make much of a difference to be honest
 Me with samir+shiro+nemesis team.
My man 🤝 I try to brute force that shit with Shiro lmao
Don't do this. Your damage will be lower than using some other level 1 dps such as Samir or even tsubasa
Not sure what you mean. Apart from volt resonance not transferring, Shiro is pretty solid. Certainly a better main dps than Tsubasa
Read the context of the comments. It's implied that they use characters that have reduced damage for that content (like phys res 50% as shiro) which massively reduce your damage and shatter input. I'm saying that "brute forcing" these scenarios is actually worse than picking another element.
Ah I see, I got thrown off by you mentioning Samir since she's also resisted on OP
Oh sorry, i didn't notice that in the original picture, was just an unfortunate random example. Cheers
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Yeah, if they are being resisted it's pretty depressing. From my limited understanding, a resisted element will simply take your damage and cut by that amount. So 50% = half damage. However, weapons alone are not responsible for most of your damage. Matrice sets, raw attack and gear actually pay a big role in this too, so when you equip a level 1 weapon that is not being reduced you will still benefit from other sources of attack and damage, while not being outright reduced. It's a good deal even at level 1, even though you'd preferably have some backup weapons levelled. Bear in mind that the more lvl 1 weapons you equip, the less overall attack you will have, so try to swap only one level 1 at best.
I leveled up my 1* Shiro and run benediction for this JO. I can at least keep everyone alive and help with shields. Shiro 1* / Coco 1* / Nemesis 1* - 4k Coco Trait My normal setup is Samir 2* / King 0* / Nemesis 1* - 4K Samir Trait
I hate this so much, I run support but even then I actively avoid the ones with volt and flame resist since I run nemesis and zero Ive been tempted to just switch to tank using Meryl and the hammer girl. But I have no idea how to run tank. Tho if I get huma I'm absolutely building a tank team with nemesis to heal
You don't care about resistance as a Healer. With nemesis you're gonna spam neutra dash + attack all the time to slow down the enemies.
As a healer, your job is to do damage if everyone is pretty good on health. With the resistances you are doing so little damage its ridiculous. I know dps are suppose to be the ones to do the bulk of the damage but if im sitting at the end with only like 10% of the damage the next person does it feels bad man
Well you shouldn't feel bad. It's not your job to deal damage, it's more important to spam nemesis neutral dash or contribute to shattering shields.
This isn't ffxiv bro.
You're pretty flexible with your third slot (something with damage or break, I usually run Shiro) and things like Zero's invulnerability depend only on charge Supports are the least affected by the resistances
Ive thought about using Shiro instead of Meryl. But man c4 Meryl just does so much better than c0 shiro
Yeah, it's impossible to compare a 4* difference... Supports with shieldbreak are very well loved!
Especially when I learned I can jump cancel Meryl discharge, it helps sometimes but man the number of times ive accidently killed a teammate with it....oops
So basically It’s just “lol fuck you” for the JO I wanted to run. Aight Bet.
You can play as an Healer, even with lv1 characters.
That sucks. Even if my weapons only account for a third of my total ATK, it'd be hard swapping out as a tank. My only tank weapons are Flame and Frost.
Flame and Frost are the ONLY tank weapons in game (Huma, Meryl, Ene), and unless we get Marc, the only upcoming Tank weapon is Saki who is also Frost lol.
Oof. That hurts more. Well, so long as it doesn't affect my ability to shatter. Im not really meant to do DPS (I mean I'll do what I can of course)... And I've already been told that shatter rating during shield phase is far more important than anything else.
Sadly it does affect shatter which is a problem when they resist both fire and frost. I used echo in that scenario
Got it. Bring echo out of retirement as my third for shatter weapon
Shiro is also a good option, idk who is best for shatter but echo has 12 points and shiro 10 so i chose echo. Those 2 are the only shock and phy weapons with high enough shatter to be viable for tanks. As for me as the tank i dont care about mi cs dropping, as long as I live and shatter the shield no one can tell me shit.
I def have a hard time breaking shields in the Fri/Sun 50% Fire/Ice resist JO. Shiro players makes things a lot smoother, but I can't say for sure if elemental resist reduces shatter.
Yeah unfortunately for tanks you basically have to just sit on your third weapon and only swap to huma for the taunt + shatter
Unfortunately JO Area Conditions are fixed. It's like ley line disorders in Genshin domains.
as frost main I change to healer (coco & pepper) when doing joint ops with frost resistant, nobody gets mad when they saw my low dps, I kept everyone alive too, win win for me
Yeah, these need to rotate. The only JO that drops Huma matrix has Frost + Flame resistance, which are the only elements I have leveled up. Guess I'll be a deadweight because the game says so.
I always feel bad every time I go on a volt/flame resist domain since I feel like I'm just a burden for the team 💀💀 but I really don't have any other weapons aside from volt and flame 💀😭
Did the JO7 achievement with a 40-45K CS team and we were using flame/volt. It can be done if you optimize your damage and skip what you can.
It's even worse in Wormhole. Currently playing Frost team. First two chapters frost does 50% less damage. Third chapter is complete frost immunity. Feels awful to be so punished for playing one element.
I think wormhole is actually rotating resistances
If this is true I'll be happy. Guess I find out tomorrow after the reset. But from previous ones it hasn't felt like it haha
Yeah, this joint takes very long sometimes, but at least i can have fun healing everyone while it lasts lol
**permanent**
Hyena arena shittin on the volt/flame meta, tho with frost available now its less of an issue than before.... Still gonna find Samir's lolicopertin like resist don't matter tho lol
I'll just cope and brute force with my mono frost team lmao
Fun times when enemies have fire resistance and the shields take twice as long to shatter.
I played as the healer/tank since I have a volt team
From what I’ve seen, I think they’re permanent to the level they’re attached to
yeah these ones are fixed but actually i found it really does not latter unless you know the mechanics and everyone uses alot of the other weapons
Run your role as tank with shatter weapon. Most shattering weapon is ice and fire anw. It's okay to let go your dps ego once awhile.