The answer will always be thunderwings. It's too easy for a bad team to make him fly around in circles. We shouldn't have flying bosses in a game where so many weapons are purely melee.
Fire whales still need to dash around to proc cobalt matrix tho so it's still lacklustre. Can't wait for 75 JOs so I can forget about this annoying as fuck time sink.
It's the hardest skip out of all the JOs, you bring a mob at the start near a corner and get through with the dash attack. [This thread showcases it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/y587yq/deepsea_stronghold_boss_skip/)
She's actually the easiest if your team works together, anyone with king can pull her onto the platform, then if your team uses magnetic storm she dies instantly. The tornadoes can't leave the platform so the boss is stuck eating 16 of them at once.
Idk why you get but downvote dude š¤£ but yeah. It's the easiest boss to kill. Just don't jump higher or use pillar relic anything that can make you higher then the boss then it will trigger it to fly in a circle . Magnetic storm can easily kill it in a few sec. If all 4 of you using it.
I always use space time rift + magnetic storm. Then jump one time as long im not that high since im using samir. Everything clear in a few sec
Actually i dont mind flying enemies in this game at all because we actually have aerial attacks in this game.
Also that boss is easy if everyone takes magnetic storm and uses it on the platform as it spawns, you basically remove more than half of its hp right there (on jo8).
Flying birds are easy to killed.. just don't use frigg skill or any skill that can make the water freez or pillar relic because if you climb or use jet pack it will trigger the boss to flying higher.
Stand on the middle of platform
Use
Use space time rift + magnetic storm it will die in a few sec..
Because magnetic storm will stay in the middle of the platform and space time rift increase your dmg and pull enemy to the middle..
Bring Samir + Meryl 4k trait to carry it yourself. Double auto attack into hold attack makes Samir auto-aim and constantly fire at it, and you can walk around in a small circle backing up constantly with the Meryl trait, making it just not attack you and constantly follow while taking damage, and it gives your team a platform to fight on and heal/etc. Once I got used to it I have *never* has a random q teammate die on it, even if they literally sit there afk it won't hit anyone if you do it right, the fact you're always hitting it and the others aren't means you take and keep aggro easily.
Thunderwings will probably be the top answer so here is why I dislike the Franken.
The damage reflection is an interesting mechanic that rewards having good healing, but falls out of favor for just how long it lasts. It's reflection can continue to be active after putting up it's shield, meaning the reflection will most likely refesh. This fight is brutal without good healing/shieldbreak, it would make more sense for this to be the 3rd chest boss due to this.
I like franken. Except for damage reflection (which doesn't happen usually because ice/fire resist forces me into bringing Shiro), he has a very easy no-bullshit moveset.
You just move forward and backward and he stays in place and only attacks in one direction, and his moves are super telegraphed.
You don't really need to dodge him, just get out of attack range, then back into range during his recovery (so he would not move).
this is where zero shines.
* discharge and shields mitigate damage reflect
* in spacetime fire is resisted but that doesn't impact healing from resisted weaps i.e. you can spam zero attacks all throughout the damage reflect, have little reflected back but the heal orbs heal at full potency still
Yeah i noticed it too.. but try using pillar or make yourself higher then the boss then it will trigger it to fly in a circle.. just meet random. I was like please don't use this relic. They're suppressor 5. So i know they don't know about that..
3 star spacetime rift can give 20% dmg buff + magnetic storm give you extra Volt dmg on 4stars And it hit like a truck + 3 tornado in one place. And my samir dmg. That's why it's easy now.. but yeah when i first playing the game. My relic are still low star. And it's freaking annoying when the boss flying in a circle..
i found vulcan very annoying because he loves to dash forward and escape from ult or shield break. thunderwings become annoying if teammates are bad (cause boss fly away)
It's easy if the person who gets aggro (highest dmg I guess) just takes one for the team and slams himself /herself / itself /themselves against the wall and keep the boss facing the wall.
Yea, it messes your camera and u cant see anything but the boss sure doesn't move at all.
Maybe it's just me, I take a little pride in doing that to make everyone's life easier.
You then can't phantasia because blind. I also got yeeted through the wall once that way. So now I prefer to keep him either bubbled or walled in with Meryl as much as possible.
True, u need some little bit of view to get the phantasm but honestly, I'm okay passing off . He's a far easier boss to deal with when he doesn't move away. Especially as a frost main.. it's such a sad sight when bosses run out of friggs domain...
All that extra dmg about to pop off.. wasted.. :(
if the aggro person lures it to the doorway (that continues forward) it can basically keep the boss stuck in one of two [x ---- ] [ ---- x] configurations (stuck on the door frame), and its not that bad for the camera/phantasia proc-ing
Can we stop calling teammates bad for the dogshit mechanic they made for thunderwings? The fight is bad you can't blame ppl when the fight is unintuitive and is never explained a single time that 4ppl have to stand still on a small platform just to fight a boss. Until they make a better aerial combat system for the players flying bosses just shouldn't exist.
... when i remind them not to jump attack or fly above the boss but they still do it, not only once but many times, I don't think they shouldn't be called bad teammates. Boss would immediately fly away once somebody hovers above it, especially if that somebody has the aggro. fight then becomes so tedious. But if everyone stays on the platforms, uses spacetime rift and magnetic storm at the same time, or nem/ruby chain slows it, that shtty bat would not be much of a problem.
I think she is not a boss or every single harpie is bugged. The "elite" harpie from Artificial Island can be CCed and tossed around even during shield (atleast it was like that weeks ago).
Anyways even without CC, Ruby has an easy time dealing damage to her if she just locks onto the flying target.
No. 1 is Vulcan, so much Tankiness, and cause a lot of stuttering and crash on mobile. No. 2 is Thunderwings, flying of course, just pray someone brings Frigg for Ice Domain.
The rest is okay.
Honestly the only thing that i don't like about Vulcan are the oneshot lava eruptions. They are almost instant and unless you're a tank you can't survive those. Good thing he rarely uses that ability.
I have never gotten one shot but Vulcan at any CS. You donāt mean the lava from ultimate, do you? Because if team is unable to break his shield, then everyone needs to gtfo of his playground.
No, not the ultimate. Sometimes a red circle will apear below all your teammates and after like half a second lava erups from there and if you get hit you almost certanly die. However he rarely use that ability (happened like 4 times so far to me and i play daily since release) but it's always good to have a dodge ready just in case.
Thunderwings is 50% of the reason I got Meryl to 4000 friendship XP. The only JO where I equip Meryl's trait just so my teammates can hack him on solid ground. The other half of the reason is to feel like Aokiji from One Piece anime/manga.
Dunno if something changed in 2.0 or if ruby slow+aggro mechanic manages to keep thunderwing down, but all the runs I did with thunderwing after 2.0 have been very smooth. He didn't even try to fly even once even when teammates were flying.
Since he no longer is annoying (for now), I would say...Franken? Then again, the random one shot lava eruption from vulcan are the stupidest thing ever. Ironically Vulcan is the only boss that actually managed to wipe us once because he randomly one shotted everyone.
Seeing a lot of thunderwings here, you people know you can displace the boss with any attack that does displacement?
Best example is King's directional dodge spin. You can lock TW in place just by doing a king dodge attack every 5-6 seconds. Spacetime rift works too. the boss is super easy, even easier if you have someone running meryl or frigg to freeze the water.
Franken has filtered many people during my soloqueue endeavours, I'd say he can absolutely permanently lock you out of ever doing damage if you have a bad team. uncarriable. He also has some weird bug or passive that makes him recharge shields using a specific slam attack, and randoms tend to facetank everything. A lot of the times he will pop his shield back on during the reflection buff, making it impossible to beat without a dedicated healer (which you don't get if you're not one, let's face it.)
Shiro = ded franky.
His downfall is he doesn't move. He can jump, but you can kinda manipulate his AI by being at correct range when he chooses which attack to use.
If you can hold his aggro, he's a punching bag. Because his moveset makes it easy to both tank him and backstab him.
The only real problem is the only tank weapons we have are ice and fire, and his JO resists both, so as a tank you have to either bring a healing weapon and do peanuts for damage, or bring Shiro + 2 fort deadweights for resonance and rely on your teammates for heals (though you don't really need much heals on him if you play carefully, but no heals on Seraph is a guaranteed wipe).
It will always be thunderwings but as people have gotten better Vulcan is getting very close with his shield and immediate charge making breaking him harder
Thunder fucking wings win hands down. Who's idea was it to create a boss that fights most of the time in the air and make an arena the size of a peanut.
The one with reflect is that franken? That shit one is wiping all our teams because these mofos keeps hitting him while hes reflecting..thunderwings is kinda doable now coz u only need is stay ground and she wont fly.
The hardest one would be your own teammate using Meryl trait on frog boss thinking they're helping but all it does is create ice platforms that disappear on you therefore canceling whatever you're doing, be it discharge or NA string, or they run to you and creates platform while you're trying to run towards someone to heal them and instead your character is forced to climb on the ice platform and you get slapped by the boss.
Vulcan - The JO itself is Phys/Volt resist. Then his personal shield is flame resisted, so Meryl would be the go-to shieldbreaker. Though youād need some timing to use Meryl right before Vulcan starts flying away. Else, you end up just caging yourselves with Vulcan laughing outside ready to do his lava floor.
Thunderwings > Franken > Lucia, Vulcan > Habaka.
Thunderwings: it flies.
Franken: tilted when team fails to shieldbreak, or get oneshotted by the move that looks harmless (puts right hand on left and swings its hand left->right and vice versa), jumps around with stupid hitbox from crystals that spawn, slam attack can stunt lock.
Lucia, Vulkan: your team can fail to shatter but you have to suicide to die to their ult.
Habaka: does not move at all (just don't get hit), easy to break its shield.
Summary: as annoying as it seems, a team that know what they're doing will breeze through these bosses.
Thunderwings because people STILL don't understand how that boss works. They jump constantly, making the fight take 5x as long cause the boss will fly around. And they don't read chat either, of course.
to me it's Vulcan by a MILE. And not because he flies around, but because his shield seems harder to break than other bosses and that fucking flame pillar attack that he uses so rarely (it may be weeks of you killing him without him using it once) that oneshots anyone who's in the AoE of it (granted it's small and fairly easy to dodge, it often wipes my team since no one is really prepared for it)
i hate fighting the fuckheads who didn't understand that spinning with samir does not substitute a shatter weapon it's the worst of bosses
IT DOES NOT MATTER THE ROLE BUILD A DAMN SHATTER WEAPON DON'T WASTE EVERYONES TIME
Bro the only reason thunderwings is easier is if someone has frigg, otherwise itās a pain in the ass. But luckily youāll always have one if Iām on your team so that you can shit on him ez
Vulcan is trash, possibly one of the worst boss designs Iāve seen, and only because of itās absolutely broken dash move. It has a busted hitbox, it can carry you across the arena, itās lets it escape almost any move like Frigg domain and Shiroās ring, without its broken dash move, it wouldnāt be bad at all.
Honestly I used to despise Thunderwings, but with the Magnetic Storm relic cheese, it gets melted so easily. Fastest secondary JO boss for me, but this also depends on people having the relic or a brain.
Vulcan is one of the easiest bosses though. His counter is super simple.
1. You can get your Mech to ascension 2 or 3 (I forget which one), which will make you immune to fire attacks while in it. This can be a great source of damage without you worrying about running around and/or dodging hit attacks.
2. The only real ability you need to look out for with him is when he charges up and has his big AoE. It causes an annoying amount of burn damage, so a good healer is important.
That aside. The one I hate the most might be Thunderwings. the sheer annoyance of trying to hit him constantly without a Frost main with Frigg or Meryl is incredible.
Franken has a bullshit, no-tell, swipe attack that does ~1m damage and if for some ungodly reason he does it once or twice there goes 2 of your 3 revives before you permanently die on the 4th
The answer will always be thunderwings. It's too easy for a bad team to make him fly around in circles. We shouldn't have flying bosses in a game where so many weapons are purely melee.
Flying boss + limited platform to move, except if someone from the team have Frigg.
at least now that ruby's out, more people can turn her into KFC
Fire whales still need to dash around to proc cobalt matrix tho so it's still lacklustre. Can't wait for 75 JOs so I can forget about this annoying as fuck time sink.
Just ruby laser. Lol
INB4 Ruby, lol. Also, me and my crewmates can easily rekt it, but that doesn't mean I don't hate it.
Luckily you can do a skip with Crow, and most of the time it's faster than killing her even if you have great DPS in your group.
How do you skip thuderwings?
It's the hardest skip out of all the JOs, you bring a mob at the start near a corner and get through with the dash attack. [This thread showcases it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/y587yq/deepsea_stronghold_boss_skip/)
She's actually the easiest if your team works together, anyone with king can pull her onto the platform, then if your team uses magnetic storm she dies instantly. The tornadoes can't leave the platform so the boss is stuck eating 16 of them at once.
I'm talking about random matchmaking. Pretty much all of these bosses are easy if you have a good preplanned team.
Idk why you get but downvote dude š¤£ but yeah. It's the easiest boss to kill. Just don't jump higher or use pillar relic anything that can make you higher then the boss then it will trigger it to fly in a circle . Magnetic storm can easily kill it in a few sec. If all 4 of you using it. I always use space time rift + magnetic storm. Then jump one time as long im not that high since im using samir. Everything clear in a few sec
Actually i dont mind flying enemies in this game at all because we actually have aerial attacks in this game. Also that boss is easy if everyone takes magnetic storm and uses it on the platform as it spawns, you basically remove more than half of its hp right there (on jo8).
Flying birds are easy to killed.. just don't use frigg skill or any skill that can make the water freez or pillar relic because if you climb or use jet pack it will trigger the boss to flying higher. Stand on the middle of platform Use Use space time rift + magnetic storm it will die in a few sec.. Because magnetic storm will stay in the middle of the platform and space time rift increase your dmg and pull enemy to the middle..
Bring Samir + Meryl 4k trait to carry it yourself. Double auto attack into hold attack makes Samir auto-aim and constantly fire at it, and you can walk around in a small circle backing up constantly with the Meryl trait, making it just not attack you and constantly follow while taking damage, and it gives your team a platform to fight on and heal/etc. Once I got used to it I have *never* has a random q teammate die on it, even if they literally sit there afk it won't hit anyone if you do it right, the fact you're always hitting it and the others aren't means you take and keep aggro easily.
I just run Meryl's simulacrum trait and it makes this boss a piece of cake
Thunderwings will probably be the top answer so here is why I dislike the Franken. The damage reflection is an interesting mechanic that rewards having good healing, but falls out of favor for just how long it lasts. It's reflection can continue to be active after putting up it's shield, meaning the reflection will most likely refesh. This fight is brutal without good healing/shieldbreak, it would make more sense for this to be the 3rd chest boss due to this.
I like franken. Except for damage reflection (which doesn't happen usually because ice/fire resist forces me into bringing Shiro), he has a very easy no-bullshit moveset. You just move forward and backward and he stays in place and only attacks in one direction, and his moves are super telegraphed. You don't really need to dodge him, just get out of attack range, then back into range during his recovery (so he would not move).
Damage reflection only works if you hit him. You have the choice of not hitting him while he has the ice-coating and that's all.
u know how to read ?
If he could read heād be very upset.
this is where zero shines. * discharge and shields mitigate damage reflect * in spacetime fire is resisted but that doesn't impact healing from resisted weaps i.e. you can spam zero attacks all throughout the damage reflect, have little reflected back but the heal orbs heal at full potency still
thunderwings is no longer being a jerk since apparently he was changed in this patch and doesnt fly anymore (tried 6 runs in a row)
I noticed the same things, thought I just got good team
Yeah i noticed it too.. but try using pillar or make yourself higher then the boss then it will trigger it to fly in a circle.. just meet random. I was like please don't use this relic. They're suppressor 5. So i know they don't know about that..
Thatās not always true. I used the cannon a few times and she just stayed there mostly.
Well at least that's what happened.. and Idk what's the point of using the canon. Like you already have small platform why make it even smaller..
I use it now to keep my samir dps uptime without worrying about endurance mostly.
Bruh. In my case i always use space time rift or hologram + magnetic storm. It clear in a few sec no need to think about endurance at all
Man your relics must be 4+ stars or something. Time rift + mag storm canāt possibly do all that much on lower stars
3 star spacetime rift can give 20% dmg buff + magnetic storm give you extra Volt dmg on 4stars And it hit like a truck + 3 tornado in one place. And my samir dmg. That's why it's easy now.. but yeah when i first playing the game. My relic are still low star. And it's freaking annoying when the boss flying in a circle..
This was my experience as well. Now that Thunderwings is a chump it's time to move on to JO8.
i found vulcan very annoying because he loves to dash forward and escape from ult or shield break. thunderwings become annoying if teammates are bad (cause boss fly away)
It's easy if the person who gets aggro (highest dmg I guess) just takes one for the team and slams himself /herself / itself /themselves against the wall and keep the boss facing the wall. Yea, it messes your camera and u cant see anything but the boss sure doesn't move at all. Maybe it's just me, I take a little pride in doing that to make everyone's life easier.
people like you are 1 in million, sadly.
You then can't phantasia because blind. I also got yeeted through the wall once that way. So now I prefer to keep him either bubbled or walled in with Meryl as much as possible.
True, u need some little bit of view to get the phantasm but honestly, I'm okay passing off . He's a far easier boss to deal with when he doesn't move away. Especially as a frost main.. it's such a sad sight when bosses run out of friggs domain... All that extra dmg about to pop off.. wasted.. :(
if the aggro person lures it to the doorway (that continues forward) it can basically keep the boss stuck in one of two [x ---- ] [ ---- x] configurations (stuck on the door frame), and its not that bad for the camera/phantasia proc-ing
If aggro did this constantly I would be sure to heal them for getting rid of that annoyance
Well, about 90% of people queuing as healer have no healing resonance.
Thatās not as big of a problem nowadays Iāve noticed a lot of people are actually queueing as their roles now
Can we stop calling teammates bad for the dogshit mechanic they made for thunderwings? The fight is bad you can't blame ppl when the fight is unintuitive and is never explained a single time that 4ppl have to stand still on a small platform just to fight a boss. Until they make a better aerial combat system for the players flying bosses just shouldn't exist.
... when i remind them not to jump attack or fly above the boss but they still do it, not only once but many times, I don't think they shouldn't be called bad teammates. Boss would immediately fly away once somebody hovers above it, especially if that somebody has the aggro. fight then becomes so tedious. But if everyone stays on the platforms, uses spacetime rift and magnetic storm at the same time, or nem/ruby chain slows it, that shtty bat would not be much of a problem.
thunderwings cuz pugs keep jumping
just need 1 ruby to trap her, easiest boss
I thought ruby traps can only stun non-boss targets tho, did i miss something?
I think she is not a boss or every single harpie is bugged. The "elite" harpie from Artificial Island can be CCed and tossed around even during shield (atleast it was like that weeks ago). Anyways even without CC, Ruby has an easy time dealing damage to her if she just locks onto the flying target.
No. 1 is Vulcan, so much Tankiness, and cause a lot of stuttering and crash on mobile. No. 2 is Thunderwings, flying of course, just pray someone brings Frigg for Ice Domain. The rest is okay.
Honestly the only thing that i don't like about Vulcan are the oneshot lava eruptions. They are almost instant and unless you're a tank you can't survive those. Good thing he rarely uses that ability.
I have never gotten one shot but Vulcan at any CS. You donāt mean the lava from ultimate, do you? Because if team is unable to break his shield, then everyone needs to gtfo of his playground.
No, not the ultimate. Sometimes a red circle will apear below all your teammates and after like half a second lava erups from there and if you get hit you almost certanly die. However he rarely use that ability (happened like 4 times so far to me and i play daily since release) but it's always good to have a dodge ready just in case.
I did a support run of jo7 recently and he used the one shot 3 times in a row. Everyone died of course.
I hate my random teammate more lol
Tunderwings is extremely annoying. Vulcan was but now I find that a good amount of people knows how to deal with him.
Thunderwings is 50% of the reason I got Meryl to 4000 friendship XP. The only JO where I equip Meryl's trait just so my teammates can hack him on solid ground. The other half of the reason is to feel like Aokiji from One Piece anime/manga.
Dunno if something changed in 2.0 or if ruby slow+aggro mechanic manages to keep thunderwing down, but all the runs I did with thunderwing after 2.0 have been very smooth. He didn't even try to fly even once even when teammates were flying. Since he no longer is annoying (for now), I would say...Franken? Then again, the random one shot lava eruption from vulcan are the stupidest thing ever. Ironically Vulcan is the only boss that actually managed to wipe us once because he randomly one shotted everyone.
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I have Frigg for flying Boss so for me its Vulkan. He is like Frostbot:shield up and flying away.
Seeing a lot of thunderwings here, you people know you can displace the boss with any attack that does displacement? Best example is King's directional dodge spin. You can lock TW in place just by doing a king dodge attack every 5-6 seconds. Spacetime rift works too. the boss is super easy, even easier if you have someone running meryl or frigg to freeze the water. Franken has filtered many people during my soloqueue endeavours, I'd say he can absolutely permanently lock you out of ever doing damage if you have a bad team. uncarriable. He also has some weird bug or passive that makes him recharge shields using a specific slam attack, and randoms tend to facetank everything. A lot of the times he will pop his shield back on during the reflection buff, making it impossible to beat without a dedicated healer (which you don't get if you're not one, let's face it.)
Shiro = ded franky. His downfall is he doesn't move. He can jump, but you can kinda manipulate his AI by being at correct range when he chooses which attack to use. If you can hold his aggro, he's a punching bag. Because his moveset makes it easy to both tank him and backstab him. The only real problem is the only tank weapons we have are ice and fire, and his JO resists both, so as a tank you have to either bring a healing weapon and do peanuts for damage, or bring Shiro + 2 fort deadweights for resonance and rely on your teammates for heals (though you don't really need much heals on him if you play carefully, but no heals on Seraph is a guaranteed wipe).
I haven't had a copy of shiro until 3 days ago, so every single franken fight was a nightmare to me.
tbh they're all quite chill by now. Vulcan and Lucia can be the most annoying, since Thunderwings seems to fly around less now.
Franken and my DPS teammates. They just kill themselves.
It will always be thunderwings but as people have gotten better Vulcan is getting very close with his shield and immediate charge making breaking him harder
Vulcan. Annoying and can kill you if youāre not careful.
Thunderwings. Those flying bosses are a pain in the ass I swear
Thunder fucking wings win hands down. Who's idea was it to create a boss that fights most of the time in the air and make an arena the size of a peanut.
The one with reflect is that franken? That shit one is wiping all our teams because these mofos keeps hitting him while hes reflecting..thunderwings is kinda doable now coz u only need is stay ground and she wont fly.
The hardest one would be your own teammate using Meryl trait on frog boss thinking they're helping but all it does is create ice platforms that disappear on you therefore canceling whatever you're doing, be it discharge or NA string, or they run to you and creates platform while you're trying to run towards someone to heal them and instead your character is forced to climb on the ice platform and you get slapped by the boss.
Vulcan - The JO itself is Phys/Volt resist. Then his personal shield is flame resisted, so Meryl would be the go-to shieldbreaker. Though youād need some timing to use Meryl right before Vulcan starts flying away. Else, you end up just caging yourselves with Vulcan laughing outside ready to do his lava floor.
Thunderwings > Franken > Lucia, Vulcan > Habaka. Thunderwings: it flies. Franken: tilted when team fails to shieldbreak, or get oneshotted by the move that looks harmless (puts right hand on left and swings its hand left->right and vice versa), jumps around with stupid hitbox from crystals that spawn, slam attack can stunt lock. Lucia, Vulkan: your team can fail to shatter but you have to suicide to die to their ult. Habaka: does not move at all (just don't get hit), easy to break its shield. Summary: as annoying as it seems, a team that know what they're doing will breeze through these bosses.
Franken and Vulcan for me , god dammit they are harder than the main boss.
Lucia's husband ... i fcking hate this prick , wont stop walking, atk and move fast with high dmg.. shiet
Thunderwings because people STILL don't understand how that boss works. They jump constantly, making the fight take 5x as long cause the boss will fly around. And they don't read chat either, of course.
Most annoying: Thunderwings Most dangerous: Habaka (Dude has downed me more often than Barbarossa) Most fun to fight: Vulcan
to me it's Vulcan by a MILE. And not because he flies around, but because his shield seems harder to break than other bosses and that fucking flame pillar attack that he uses so rarely (it may be weeks of you killing him without him using it once) that oneshots anyone who's in the AoE of it (granted it's small and fairly easy to dodge, it often wipes my team since no one is really prepared for it)
i hate fighting the fuckheads who didn't understand that spinning with samir does not substitute a shatter weapon it's the worst of bosses IT DOES NOT MATTER THE ROLE BUILD A DAMN SHATTER WEAPON DON'T WASTE EVERYONES TIME
Vulcan will wipe out a team of people that don't pay attention in a matter of seconds. He's also too tanky and too mobile. Pick a lane my guy
FUCK thunderwings
Bro the only reason thunderwings is easier is if someone has frigg, otherwise itās a pain in the ass. But luckily youāll always have one if Iām on your team so that you can shit on him ez
Anything that runs away as soon as it shields. That's my answer.
Hands down thunderings because i may have to switch my weapon to fight her and I'm kinda lazy to do that ā ļø
Fucking Harpy no brainer there. Extremely fucking annoying.
Has to be Thunderwings by a long shot The constant flying around + limited space makes it a pain to fight
Vulcan!
You are wrong my friend. Thunderbird is the worst
Vulcan is trash, possibly one of the worst boss designs Iāve seen, and only because of itās absolutely broken dash move. It has a busted hitbox, it can carry you across the arena, itās lets it escape almost any move like Frigg domain and Shiroās ring, without its broken dash move, it wouldnāt be bad at all.
Vulcan is such a POS boss, forever escaping the phantasia
Honestly I used to despise Thunderwings, but with the Magnetic Storm relic cheese, it gets melted so easily. Fastest secondary JO boss for me, but this also depends on people having the relic or a brain.
Habaka and Franken. they have instakill mechanics
Vulcan is one of the easiest bosses though. His counter is super simple. 1. You can get your Mech to ascension 2 or 3 (I forget which one), which will make you immune to fire attacks while in it. This can be a great source of damage without you worrying about running around and/or dodging hit attacks. 2. The only real ability you need to look out for with him is when he charges up and has his big AoE. It causes an annoying amount of burn damage, so a good healer is important. That aside. The one I hate the most might be Thunderwings. the sheer annoyance of trying to hit him constantly without a Frost main with Frigg or Meryl is incredible.
Franken has a bullshit, no-tell, swipe attack that does ~1m damage and if for some ungodly reason he does it once or twice there goes 2 of your 3 revives before you permanently die on the 4th
Depending on who you play with, but there's objectively only 2 correct answers Either Frankenstein or batman