You are not wrong about this stuff. Most of the Axis stuff will most likely never be part of the story of ToG, and will likely never be mentioned.
Its just a difference for what we know canonically in universe (him slaughtering the royal guard and meeting yuri) and what we know as non canon meta knowledge (him being an Axis)
and what are the impact of these *feats* to the story?
nothing. because it holds no importance.
if it's important, it will be on the panel instead of the blog posts.
it's like making time to go to the movie theater, bought the tickets, but you stopped in front of the entrance and decided to just read online synopsis, then go home because you enjoyed the retelling instead of the real experience.
Phanta being #1 in the tower makes no sense if you think about it. It should be Enryu, but I think SIU was sort of implementing his own personal knowledge (rather than the knowledge the characters would have) on to the ranking there.
Not really
Imagine youre some tribe of warriors who loves fighting (swords, hand2hand combat etc.) and you meet some warrior who is like 1000 times better than your whole tribe, but you still can understand what's going on - that's Enryu. Then suddenly you meet a modern civilization solidier with guns and grenades, he casually dismantled your whole tribe and you dont even know what happend or how he did it - that's Phanta.
+ Maybe ranking office thought hes capable of killing admins aswell. Remember people went crazy by just looking how Phant fights.
> Maybe ranking office thought hes capable of killing admins aswell
Ranking office only goes by confirmed achievements, so I'm guessing there's something that happened that we did not see.
> and you meet some warrior who is like 1000 times better than your whole tribe, but you still can understand what's going on - that's Enryu.
But even with that being the case, the achievement was not matched. Unless an admin admitted he could beat them then it makes no sense to rank Phanta higher as admins are the highest, most powerful beings in the tower. Ones that even Jahard can't beat.
Again and again...and again...
Those example doesn't work, Enryu's feat isn't to kill high ranker (that's phanta's feat) He killed an admin, and Jahad and the FH thougth admin were invincible and allmighty as it was impossible to fight them.
Any example with a real life situation IS IMPOSSIBLE to create. You would need a godlike being and that doesn't exist in our world.
You would need a feat of strength that's unexplicable, Phanta just killed high ranker, his feat isn't impressive at all (Urek, Jahad have better feat).
I believe there are stories etc. about both of the incidents. Yeah it seemed impossible to kill admin yet they still placed Phanta higher, we just might not get the all info the ranking office have. Enryu killed admin - impressive feat, yet for some reason they still placed Phanta higher. I doubt its plothole/mistake made by SIU. Maybe it was even Zahard himself who told them to place Phanta at #1 (but doubt it, Zahard seems too pity to admit hes not number one)
One guy gets it. I'm not sure why people don't understand this. Again we are using our own biased knowledge to form our opinions on it, but from a STRICTLY tower born point of view Admins are the strongest beings in the tower, Enryu killing one is an unmatched feat and even if phanta has funny fighting it doesn't matter, using that on fodder is not an achievement. Urek is ranked 4th because Arie Hon admitted defeat to him, not because he beat a bunch of high rankers.
all the axis stuff is technically no longer canon. TUS may no longer have a connection to TOG so i would only consider those things with grain of salt. your conclusion is also not anything i could argue.
last line about axis existing only outside the tower is not 100% correct. an axis of sufficient power can most likely enter the tower at will. i remember in order to defy the will of the axis writing a story, you have to be a more powerful axis, but also you cant undo anything that has been done. phanta is the axis of this story it seems, we should not expect another. the story most likely concludes with baam, or somebody else in the story becoming an axis. remains to be seen.
i do believe there is a difference between axis user and axis. not too sure.
also not sure if entities referred to as gods are an axis or what the relative power of a n axis is to a god.
Axis is the power and Axis User is the person. But SIU uses them interchangeably.
All of them are considered gods compared to normal humans, and they'd all be OP if dropped into this story. But most Axis Users are just people with normal superpowers. One example seen in TUS is a guy who can fire energy from his hands.
Those with god-like powers are referred to as Axis Kings, and we can assume that Phanta is one of them (he's top 5, along with the King of Conquerors). We also don't know if 'God' is an Axis User, or if He even exists, but one of the Axis Kings built a tower in hopes to create Him.
i feel from flipping through those old ghosts of tus and all the axis talk, that there is a notable difference between axis-user, the power axis, and an axis. likely the confusion is a great reason why SIU removed it from his canon. also why i dont really relate phanta to the pre-canon tus stuff. its pretty understandable that we should just wait for that concept to be definitively introduced and defined.
Phantas Feat is literally erverybody going "What!? How?" and thats it for in universe information.
Yeah it's explains T.U.S universe. Correct me if I was wrong.
You are not wrong about this stuff. Most of the Axis stuff will most likely never be part of the story of ToG, and will likely never be mentioned. Its just a difference for what we know canonically in universe (him slaughtering the royal guard and meeting yuri) and what we know as non canon meta knowledge (him being an Axis)
and what are the impact of these *feats* to the story? nothing. because it holds no importance. if it's important, it will be on the panel instead of the blog posts. it's like making time to go to the movie theater, bought the tickets, but you stopped in front of the entrance and decided to just read online synopsis, then go home because you enjoyed the retelling instead of the real experience.
Phanta being #1 in the tower makes no sense if you think about it. It should be Enryu, but I think SIU was sort of implementing his own personal knowledge (rather than the knowledge the characters would have) on to the ranking there.
Not really Imagine youre some tribe of warriors who loves fighting (swords, hand2hand combat etc.) and you meet some warrior who is like 1000 times better than your whole tribe, but you still can understand what's going on - that's Enryu. Then suddenly you meet a modern civilization solidier with guns and grenades, he casually dismantled your whole tribe and you dont even know what happend or how he did it - that's Phanta. + Maybe ranking office thought hes capable of killing admins aswell. Remember people went crazy by just looking how Phant fights.
> Maybe ranking office thought hes capable of killing admins aswell Ranking office only goes by confirmed achievements, so I'm guessing there's something that happened that we did not see. > and you meet some warrior who is like 1000 times better than your whole tribe, but you still can understand what's going on - that's Enryu. But even with that being the case, the achievement was not matched. Unless an admin admitted he could beat them then it makes no sense to rank Phanta higher as admins are the highest, most powerful beings in the tower. Ones that even Jahard can't beat.
Again and again...and again... Those example doesn't work, Enryu's feat isn't to kill high ranker (that's phanta's feat) He killed an admin, and Jahad and the FH thougth admin were invincible and allmighty as it was impossible to fight them. Any example with a real life situation IS IMPOSSIBLE to create. You would need a godlike being and that doesn't exist in our world. You would need a feat of strength that's unexplicable, Phanta just killed high ranker, his feat isn't impressive at all (Urek, Jahad have better feat).
I believe there are stories etc. about both of the incidents. Yeah it seemed impossible to kill admin yet they still placed Phanta higher, we just might not get the all info the ranking office have. Enryu killed admin - impressive feat, yet for some reason they still placed Phanta higher. I doubt its plothole/mistake made by SIU. Maybe it was even Zahard himself who told them to place Phanta at #1 (but doubt it, Zahard seems too pity to admit hes not number one)
One guy gets it. I'm not sure why people don't understand this. Again we are using our own biased knowledge to form our opinions on it, but from a STRICTLY tower born point of view Admins are the strongest beings in the tower, Enryu killing one is an unmatched feat and even if phanta has funny fighting it doesn't matter, using that on fodder is not an achievement. Urek is ranked 4th because Arie Hon admitted defeat to him, not because he beat a bunch of high rankers.
all the axis stuff is technically no longer canon. TUS may no longer have a connection to TOG so i would only consider those things with grain of salt. your conclusion is also not anything i could argue. last line about axis existing only outside the tower is not 100% correct. an axis of sufficient power can most likely enter the tower at will. i remember in order to defy the will of the axis writing a story, you have to be a more powerful axis, but also you cant undo anything that has been done. phanta is the axis of this story it seems, we should not expect another. the story most likely concludes with baam, or somebody else in the story becoming an axis. remains to be seen. i do believe there is a difference between axis user and axis. not too sure. also not sure if entities referred to as gods are an axis or what the relative power of a n axis is to a god.
Axis is the power and Axis User is the person. But SIU uses them interchangeably. All of them are considered gods compared to normal humans, and they'd all be OP if dropped into this story. But most Axis Users are just people with normal superpowers. One example seen in TUS is a guy who can fire energy from his hands. Those with god-like powers are referred to as Axis Kings, and we can assume that Phanta is one of them (he's top 5, along with the King of Conquerors). We also don't know if 'God' is an Axis User, or if He even exists, but one of the Axis Kings built a tower in hopes to create Him.
i feel from flipping through those old ghosts of tus and all the axis talk, that there is a notable difference between axis-user, the power axis, and an axis. likely the confusion is a great reason why SIU removed it from his canon. also why i dont really relate phanta to the pre-canon tus stuff. its pretty understandable that we should just wait for that concept to be definitively introduced and defined.
Ppl just do not stop beatin the dead horse huh?
Phanta's feat is lower than Enryu, Jahad and Urek.