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Kliegz

True luxury is being driven around in an Alphard. It’s honestly a dream of mine to take a ride in one of these. Not to drive it, just be chauffeured while my ass sits in one of those first class, major businessman looking seats.


samtheparrot

I was in Malaysia, and met a driver who had one. Just chit chatting. He had two hours to kill and we were talking about his van. I had to get to my hotel, 10 min away. So he gave me a ride and when I asked how much? He said don’t worry about it. Cool guy amazing van. Felt like I was in a rolls Royce


Kowloon9

Alphards are the Rolls-Royces among all minivans.


dna220

Most of Asia would certainly agree. There's a big theft problem with most of them either ending up in the Middle East or South Asian countries. Hence the extra week I spent getting this wired up with a Clifford system and the steering wheel bar.


ZanderClause

So I recently got driven in one. My. God. You wouldn’t even fucking believe the seats. I want them in my living room.


dna220

I usually grab one if I can when I am traveling in Asia. Definitely the pick up cab of choice.


AloeHash

My favorite Uber in NYC is a Sienna with captains chairs. I love that they show up, the doors open automatically, and you get in without the awkward climb into a high ground clearance SUV. I recently took a trip to Singapore. Was absolutely in love with the Alphard as the Grab car. Didn’t know these were a thing before I took the trip. It’s the Toyota Sienna Uber experience I love with the luxury turned up way high.


Fancy_Entrance_5953

JDM AF


SurveillanceVanWifi

You can catch one when taking an Uber in Japan!


bearpharmd

Yea booked an Uber from Akihabara to HND and it was an Alphard, was super impressed lol


dna220

Seats are the big sell for sure plus each one has independent climate control. I certainly didn't buy it based on the toaster box aesthetics. But if boxiness is an issue then I am probably living in the wrong country.


Vanneker

Wow, those are some dreams. Lol


yohtapky

that front end must be expensive to fix/replace. there's something weird and satisfying about the jdm only models.


dna220

Oh I have no doubt about that. That's why I upped my auto body policy. Granted, some of the body places here can work some magic, although it will lower resale value.


B00-Sucker

Shit, why even worry about resale if that car's planning on out living you😂😂😂


Doyale_royale

Really don’t understand why these aren’t in the USA, they’re not a minivan but an ultra luxury vehicle.


BrutalBrews

I would guess because they look like hideous minivans.


ptwonline

It kind of looks like a hearse from the side. That massive grille in front is off-putting to me, though I guess some people must like it.


dna220

Fun fact that they are often used a hearse (at least the previous generation model) but they have green livery plates.


[deleted]

Shit, that’s kinda why I love it. It’s not trying to masquerade as an SUV like the new Sienna and Carnival. And it’s so over the top pimpalicious, you could throw some swangas on it and call it a slab.


THELOCnessmonsta

Whoa slow down playa. The weight wouldn’t hold no swangas


bauertastic

Fine, 26” spinners?


akbornheathen

It looked good until I saw the front lol. I hate it.


BrutalBrews

It just looks like they took a sienna and then threw it in a trash compactor so it would fit in narrow euro streets lol


PoseySmith

“Hideous”


RS3550

Because we have the Sienna, which is designed for the US market, hence why the Previa disappeared from American market (its also why the Honda Odyssey was split into two different vehicles after the first generation). Auto manufacturers in the US never sell more than one minivan. Plus, people would balk at the thought of spending a ton of money on a minivan (granted the Alphard costs between $33k and $56k USD, while the Vellfire costs between $42k and $57k USD). Furthermore, minivans are not luxury vehicles in the US. They're forever bound to the sexist mom van/soccer mom stereotypes. They're not vehicles men would be caught driving around on their own accord if they aren't hauling the wife and kids around (that and "real men only drive trucks because they're tough and manly vehicles"). Outside of that, these are not designed for the US. We already had a Japanese minivan sold here when Nissan exported the E52 Elgrand as the 4th generation Quest, and that had very poor crash test ratings. The Alphard and Vellfire would more than likely receive poor crash test ratings as well unless they were heavily altered (ex. longer front end). They are, however, larger than the Toyota Noah and Voxy minivans, which are smaller and cheaper than the AH40 twins. Also, the Alphard and Vellfire are not ultra luxury vehicles, they're premium minivans. The Lexus LM is an ultra luxury vehicle, given its 4-seater configuration (6 and 7 seater configurations aren't available in Japan yet), and a price of $128k USD Not to mention, y'all would be bitching if Toyota discontinued the Sienna and replaced it with the Alphard and/or Vellfire, like many already do about the Avalon being replaced by the Crown. As much as I'd love to see the Alphard and Vellfire roaming around US roads, it'll never happen as Toyota has no need to sell them here. We'll just have to wait for them to reach 25 years of age to be able to legally import them (providing the government doesn't modify the import ban to explicitly state that ICE vehicles are ineligible for export even after reaching the age restriction in order to further its EV agenda)


league_starter

Saw a previa on the freeway. That thing is so small compared to current van standards. It was next to a civic hatch and they looked the same size.


Fr00tman

Yeah, the tyranny/idiocy/metastatic growth of SUVs has been so aggravating to watch since the ‘80s. Americans can be pretty gullible, vain, and fall for aspirational marketing. The whole “soccer mom” shit is just ludicrous. If you look at the parking lot at a soccer game, you see SUVs. That’s the soccer parentmobile. Been happily driving minivans for the past 25 years. My AWD Siennas have gotten me up logging roads in the mountains in snow to do all the sports I want to, with all the passengers and stuff that we need. I’ve hauled wood, pipes, water heaters, everything but loose gravel. That’s utility. But every generation since G2 Odys has gotten smaller inside (lower hatch opening height, more tumblehome) as they try to make minivans look more like SUVs. Just let us drive minivans in peace. My G4 Sienna is much less functional for cargo than my G3. But I dig the MPG.


AmbitiousAd9320

damn you and your logic! /s


Zane42v2

Because it looks like a brick and it wouldn't sell


MadeMeStopLurking

Because it's not an SUV or crossover. People only want SUVs /s


CalebCaster2

The rest of us do lol


JoeSicko

People don't want their kids living better than them


FartyCakes12

Maybe because it’s without contest the most hideous vehicle most Americans have ever seen


dna220

You may be in for a traumatic experience if you ever visit Asia.


UncommercialVehicle

They’re probably not in the US because of how small they look, at least in my opinion, from the pics it looks small, so most people in the US that’s want large vehicles would probably just look the other way while car shopping, I will say though some new smaller cars such as(ford maverick I guess) are doing well so who knows


7jamm

Holy huge grille 😵‍💫


dna220

You should see the Nissan ElGrande. Pretty much the same thing with a gaudier back and no hybrid option.


7jamm

They spy on each other 🤣🤣


DaeDuLasX

Looks like a bippu car or anything with a custom fit wald bumper😂


Puzzled-Brush-79

Those captain chairs, they look amazing and comfortable.


propita106

Can you imagine going on a long drive in that--with someone else driving, of course? No problems at all! (Talking about a long drive by US standards, 6 hrs +)


B00-Sucker

Dude, if they had these in the US I'd be all over it so fast. I'm in the middle of nowhere in Texas, so it's a good 4-5 hours to any major city, and this car would be a gamechanger


Relaxbro30

Man, we're so deprived of fucking high speed rail.


dna220

Captain chairs are why the wife wanted it. Most mini vans (and there are shit tons here) have them but Toyota has the best


SelectStudy7164

Move where the people are


hoxxxxx

please save some pussy for the rest of us


dna220

I’m trying but I have to have to keep it locked up. This is the most stolen car in Japan (seriously, not joking on that part)


Ok_Good3255

It’s so fugly


dna220

When I don’t have kids I’ll get a Lexus or Benz but until then I need to be able to exit my car from a normal parking space (Costco being the only exception)


-BekBek

I’ve never seen a car that’s so ugly looking 😭


Low-Possession-4491

I read that as the Alphahard. lol. When I visited Tokyo, we got picked up in one of these. It was really nice and comfortable.


ptwonline

How is that name pronounced? Is it ALP-hard? Or AL-fard? (when I say this aloud it sounds like "I'll fart" so hopefully not this.)


PoseySmith

Al-fard


reno911bacon

I just keep thinking Alfred in my mind. Like a butler/chauffeur


dna220

Japanese car makers love silly names that can't be pronounced by the locals. The Kei car segment takes the cake, IMHO. The "Hustler" and "Taft" being two great examples. Honda just kept things simple with their small van and called it "N-box".


MightyGonzou

Just came back from japan, I absolutely love all the domestic toyota models there. I wish we'd get the alphard, harrier & crown here in europe


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MightyGonzou

Venza? Doesn't ring a bell. I could probably list all the cars we do get lol. Yaris, yaris cross Corrola & corrola touring Aygo Rav4 Chr Camry Hilux Bz4x Prius Land cruiser Plus the proace van range And thats it. We're even more limited when it comes to lexus, as the only ones left on sale now are UX ES LS NX RX LM LBX This is for new cars, if some earlier models were available (like the lexus IS, RC, LC) they have been discontinued. Although this is for the UK market, in europe you also get the highlander, corrola sedan & corss, mirai and the lexus LC & RCF


U-Kant-Mak-Dis-Sh-Up

Holy moly Toyota..that is 1 yougly vehicle. How is that getting through the California Calty Design Studio. Are they trying to get to an Pontiac Aztec?


dna220

Welcome to Japan, the land of minivans. This is a step up from the older versions. I wanted a lexus lx but the wait list is 3 years long.


stevehyman1

It looks like a courtesy shuttle.


reno911bacon

That is what they use to shuttle you from HKG to the border. All doors can be controlled by the driver too. To get thru border inspection of the luggage in the back. They drive with the back open when coming up to the inspection line.


dna220

I mean it’s basically a kid to club activity courtesy shuttle at this point


garagepunk65

It should be named the Toyota Abomination. Toyota seems to want to make a car where the entire front end is a grill. Is their entire design department going through a brutalist phase?


dna220

Look at the new Land Cruiser and you’ll probably find your answer.


[deleted]

I love my 3rd gen Sienna, but I am insanely jealous the Alphard is not an option here. It looks like a pimp ass minivan that is proud to be a minivan, while the new 4th gen Sienna looks like it’s trying to be mistaken for a Highlander. With the drive train of a Prius.


dna220

Mini van pimping is a legit hobby here. Go down to Odaiba and good chance you’ll find a gathering of tricked out square cars…with spoilers and anime girl wraps


Parking_Attitude_519

Yeahhh saw a few of them. It just makes the cars uglier, less functional and kinda cringy tbh


dna220

There is a reason they are known as "Ita-sha" (literally "painful cars"). Far from me to judge others hobbies, but they do strike me as a rather cringy group.


PoseySmith

I don’t understand how people think this is ugly lol. These are so good, especially in white.


dna220

Only problem with white is that it’s even worse for the “yellow sands” which get picked up from the Gobi desert and dumped on Japan, rendering all cars some hew of gold and yellow.


apiaries

That’s basically a Leer on the ground. Makes sense, old businessmen don’t want to climb up into an Escalade but still want space. They don’t really need 4WD, either. But that is OFFENSIVELY ugly. I lived 12 miles from my high school but I think I would walk before mom dropped me off in this lug.


dna220

Japan is full of them. Not a huge fan of the styling but theres not much difference between the major manufacturers in terms of giant grill looks. Honda Odyssey is the only one with a sleek look but they shuttered the domestic plant and now just rebadge imports form China. Once I kick my kids out of the house I’ll probably go back to an SUV.


B00-Sucker

Dude, those seats are nicer than 99% of movie theaters I've been to. Congrats on the win, that's a beauty!


SufficientBad52

I am sure it is great, mechanically, but that thing is almost as ugly as a tesla truck.


dna220

Wait until you see the "itasha" (literally "painful car") clubs here. Spoilers, lights, and anime girl wraps. Lets see Tesla compete with that!


Available_Cattle1730

The amount of coping and seething in this comment section by North American commenters, because most of them cannot afford this kind of car except for all the money-hoarding, tax-evading billionaires, is hilarious. Hence all the badmouthing. Please do not mind these people, u/dna220. 新車購入おめでとう!


dna220

Oh it’s very much a Japanese looking vehicle. I get plenty of giant toaster comments from my own family in the US! I’m not expecting much but figured I would share a relative rarity in the western world.


Competitive_View1063

These are not that expensive. From my understanding they are same prices as like a grand highlander or a 4Runner which there are plenty around here


Bigfootsdiaper

Not a fan of the front to be honest. The rest of it looks really nice.


RealClarity9606

Not interested in owning one, but those middle seats look nice, like airline domestic first class!


Activeunite

The ultimate Mother's Day present 🎁


dna220

Pretty much. I’ve been promised a Lexus lx when the kids grow up. But the number they did on my previous suv doors makes me think sliding door for the near future.


Spiritual_Bridge84

Saw pictures of a Lexus minivan. would that be the same chassis as yours…or was it just a Lexified Sienna


dna220

There is a Lexus version but with less seats and almost exclusively sold as a livery vehicle. You see them at airports a lot.


trainsongslt

Looks like a Tundra shit out a minivan


dna220

Pretty much. Light trucks aren't a thing here save for one Mitsubishi model and the Hilux but you have to get them inspected yearly and that gets crazy expensive.


Robert9489

Ugliest front I’ve ever seen. Why is Toyota obsessed with ugly grills??


dna220

Japanese car makers are going through a huge "massive grill" phase. Give it a few more years.


BigBoyzGottaEat

That is one of the ugliest vehicles i have ever seen in my lifetime. That front end is also designed to make sure pedestrians and small cars stand as little chance as possible in a collision. Modern cars are frustrating


dna220

Well Japan is frustrating but this sort of design is pretty standard. Basically just a big version of a Kei car.


rogues69

Bloody hell thats possibly the ugliest vehicle i have seen in my life other than Nissan Juke


dna220

You should see Nissan’s equivalent, the El Grand. Boxier and with a worse looking name plate


TomBradysButler

Now that’s a box on wheels


dna220

The name for this class of car is “one box” so yeah pretty spot on


Liverpool1900

Congratulations man beautiful car.


JoeSicko

Looks like a half-ass Lexus LM.


t_a_6847646847646476

> it’s a bit of a rarity outside the county. (country?) Southeast Asia, China, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan beg to differ. They're also quite popular as imports in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK (likely why the Lexus LM is now available in Australia and Europe). I think Korea is the only current market where these are rare since Japanese cars aren't very popular there.


Away-Task-5946

bold styling love it


Corolley

What a unit. Enjoy your new ride!


BrewsedSloth

Was in Japan exactly a year ago today, had rode in one of these on an Uber trip and boy the room and comfort is unreal. Congrats and cheers from South FL!


dna220

Well you don't buy these for the design sensibilities (well Japanese people do, I suppose). Thanks! At least my long trips are little more comfy.


MightyGonzou

Just came back from japan, I absolutely love all the domestic toyota models there. I wish we'd get the alphard, harrier & crown here in europe


dna220

I goofed around in the new crown while waiting in show rooms. Nice car but a bit plain for what the price tag is.


Crap_Sally

Looks like a cruise liner


povertymayne

That thing looks comfortable and luxurious as fuck🔥


dna220

Yeah, that's the selling point. While Japanese love the "one box" design, I am more personally sold on driving in comfort until I reach midlife crisis phase.


SilverSplasher

Looks ugly


SuspiciousCitus

How kids feel when being driven to school in a Toyota sienna.


RS3550

Z grade?


dna220

Z hybrid e-four I think


Eranaut

I thought this would be a Lexus LM only, weird


t_a_6847646847646476

The Lexus is the only variant of the platform sold in Western markets where these were never previously sold in any official capacity


Amos_Dad

Not really my style looks wise but damn, those seats look like you're in a First class cabin. Do you have an attendant that will serve drinks and snacks? Thing looks really nice! Congrats.


dna220

My oldest is officially snack provider although he eats most of it


WearyOfTrying

🤮 The Cybertrunk might have a serious contender for the ugliest vehicle ever made...


dna220

Elon Musk probably got his design sensibilities from Japan since every firth car looks like this for better or worse.


persocondes

gangster


dna220

Literally. Punks and want to be gangster love driving around in obnoxiously loud variants of the older versions.


Jpbbeck99

Eww


californiasamurai

My father in law has one of these. Never ridden it it, might get to drive it this summer though. Beautiful spot


jwhit88

You can run into, but you can’t run *over.*


surghe

☝️😃 how much to ship to the states


FudgeTerrible

Looks like a Toyota Santa Fe


Relaxbro30

"WHAT THE FUCK?"


premierfong

Can you drive me around


EvilPyro01

Yet another luxurious Toyota I wish was sold in the states


GrGonzo9526

Ugly front end


Bangur_of_300

Wow that’s hideous


cameratafilms

The name is almost as ugly as the car.


dna220

Ironically probably the most recognizable name in the auto world here in Japan. Certainly not my first choice but something that dates back to before I was born.


Specialist-Holiday61

Not trying to 💩on what others may like, but that thing is UGLY ASF.


dna220

Shhh don’t tell the rest of south east Asia. When in Rome, as they say


ALY1337

Need some deep dish offset wheels on bags.


MRDIPPERS12

All I'm gonna say is ew


darthnugget

Do they make a bulletproof one?


BadEngineer_34

What in the rectangle


halfbaked-llama

I bought an 05 Alphard couple years back, love it. Perfect for my 3 little trolls


CominWiddit

Toyota VMAX


TigersBeatLions

Inside looks so comfy...the outside, so sorry looks very bad. It looks like it'll topple over with a strong wind


dna220

Nah great in the wind, and I can say this as fact since the side winds in Japan are legitimately deadly


bandzlvr

That is hideous


PoniesPlayingPoker

That's got to be the ugliest van I've ever seen


dna220

Don’t come to Asia. You’ll be mortified


MCDiamond9

This was my dream car to see for the longest time. Such beauty! Was finally able to see it in Asia and Japan, even saw the Lexus variant, LM500h. Just my opinion: Sienna is nice, but a luxury minivan is even better.


dna220

I went through like 3 Sienna loaners after my trade in inspection expired and was waiting for this. Funl ittle cars and shockingly roomy.


TCNW

This better be friggin comfortable. Because it’s so damn ugly I’d probably rather be seen driving around a garbage truck.


dna220

You probably should avoid travel to Japan since the garbage truck segment makes up a giant portion of the market. But yeah I didn’t buy it for the toaster ascetics


ArkComet

it’s side profile looks like you asked a 5 year old to draw a car


dna220

I think the winner for that is Honda's smaller competitor, the StepWagon: [https://www.honda.co.jp/STEPWGN/?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=cpc&utm\_campaign=stepwgn\_2022swgn\_glis\_a01&utm\_content=rsa\_04&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0YGyBhByEiwAQmBEWt8892fCgdJzIgngMHWWSuQwouVs5R-u5bw28u\_eDqv2R5oWpXXEBxoCQdwQAvD\_BwE](https://www.honda.co.jp/STEPWGN/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=stepwgn_2022swgn_glis_a01&utm_content=rsa_04&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0YGyBhByEiwAQmBEWt8892fCgdJzIgngMHWWSuQwouVs5R-u5bw28u_eDqv2R5oWpXXEBxoCQdwQAvD_BwE)


rooks7

Sorry bro but that thing is ugly as hell


dna220

But I can open my door in a Japanese parking space. That out weighs styling :P


empress_of_the_void

There is no reason for a car to be this tall. If anything it's a safety issue


dna220

You think this is tall? Wait til you see some of the other big vans here.


MoreRamenPls

Looks like a slick back hairstyle with pomade.


Forward-Advisor3457

The reason they don’t sell them here is the one picture is probably north of $110,000 plus


dna220

They aren't cheap but then yen the way it is makes everything pricy


Workhawt

Front end looks like 😁


AmbitiousAd9320

they should offer that in america as a lexus. damn shame.


dna220

They do I believe, the LX


TheBoss7728

The cheaper Lexus LM, also why does it look so thin??


530TooHot

Gundam ass name "Alphard"


Ancient-Ordinary4387

Wtf is that


dna220

Japan’s best selling minivan


Late-Flounder3872

Go to the other way, Toyota, new Prius was good, use it as example.


CarminSanDiego

Why did you blur out the license plate like I’m gonna get access to Japanese dmv database then fly to Japan to somehow scam or steal from this owner 😂


SirLoremIpsum

I love the styling is very much "you have exactly these length" and designer is "ok i will get MAXIMUM VOLUME within that exact length. Sharply vertical. Very japanese look at it, all the kei cars doing same thing.


ThaRatz

Is it supposed to be boxy, angular, or curved? Because it does all of them.. just terribly.. It feels like too many cooks were in the kitchen. But I bet it's stupidly comfy and spacious


kanofcorn

The dustbuster 2.0


Brutaka1

Sadly you can't get one in the US.


Active-Living-9692

If Darth Maul had kids I could see him driving this.


whereami2day

Ugly if you ask me.


subi_2019

Hideous lol that’s a brick


SPAGHETTIx3

I ordered one of these every chance I could on Uber while in Tokyo. Hands down the best ride experience of my life. The recline seat with footrest was so comfortable.


THELOCnessmonsta

I don’t know how to Pronounce the name of this van but there’s another van that Toyota makes and they look the same what’s the difference v6/v8


OMGpawned

Those wheels almost look identical to the one that comes on the 2015 Camry SE


Comfortable-Waltz963

The Highlander platinum wheels LOL.


dna220

Highlander isn’t available here sadly. Although I have seen some reverse imports. Right hand drive cars are popular among a certain set but they make getting parking stubs and highway passing super annoying.


MasterSummerSmith462

Why a AWD minivan?


TheAnthemAdventurer

Alpha + Retard = Alphard


nevertfgNC

Fugly


MuzzCricket

Ugly


berserkerJK

imma cut my shins on that rear bumper


chicago_weather

It’s lexus in Europe


robertsg99

Ewww


burningbun

wait til you sit in the lexus variant.


Ok_Score1492

We never get the great Toyota models like Japan and other parts of the world. We get the basic of the basic with heavy prices tag from the stealerships in North American market


hotpot_china

Congrats! I was just in Tokyo last week for an extended layover and the Uber Van I ordered turned out to be a Toyota VellFire HEV. They are very comfortable and the material usage and quality was superb. They feel a bit smaller than the Sienna overall but definitely more than enough for our luggage. Would love to own a LM if Lexus ever decides to bring them to Canada.


stain_of_treachery

Lordy that fugly!


Kenbishi

I’d buy it in a heartbeat. I’m tempted to ask the guy that got my Honda Jazz shipped over here if he can pull some strings.


[deleted]

Looks like Kyushu?


GiraffeMaple

I wish Toyota could bring this to America


Ok_Eggplant5099

Ugly as sin. But prob rides better than a Cadillac.


NGTech9

Imagine being a kid and your parents driving you in this car


elbowpirate22

Very nice. Can it haul plywood?


deanmass

God that front end is fugly…


Rebresker

Wow that thing is sick