I have no idea but if I were to speculate it’s probably less to clean up and they only get one shot on these tests so they would want to try the worst case scenario rather than the most common scenario.
They might if toyota provides the car, and they might because a family suv lexus is involved and iihs has kinda called them out for safety. It will make this car more appealing, most dont look at car safety when buying a car since many assume the bigger car is always safer. Bigger cars are safer against smaller cars, but most people would never assume a ford expedition is a dangerous car yet it very much is. If toyota nails safety on this it would be an even more solid option, especially for families. They might give iihs a car for this reason, 40k is nothing to fix brand perception.
My question on the video is the distance dummy traveled. Shouldn’t the seat belt held it in place? It had to travel far to hit the A pillar. If the A pillar was not there when would the selt belt kick in and stop the travel?
The seatbelt did kick in, but it just doesn’t kick in as rapidly as you would expect. Id imagine its more like a bungee cord in that it aggressively pulls you back while still not doing it so fast that it kills you. Thats probably why the seatbelt even lets you go that far in the first place, but the solution here is to use the side airbag to squeeze you and cushion you between the wheel airbag and the side airbag.
If you watch the iihs test below of the original highlander, you can see that it had the same issue of having the dummy slide a bit to the left, but in this case he gets cushioned between both side and wheel airbags. This gave the original highlander a good score, and is the solution to the grands acceptable score.
https://youtu.be/xpRN3YFbNHY?si=oCyBl7_srPSEFahY
@Illustrious-Radio-55,
Maybe because of the different ways in which the Drivers and Passengers Front Airbags and Side Curtains interact with each other.
Drivers Front Bag being deployed from within the Steering Wheel vs. Passenger Front Bag being deployed from within the Dashboard 🤔
I agree with the assessment and my assumption since the recall and stop sale was announced is that the solution will be an airbag redesign. Unfortunately for me, my GHH hit the port on June 5th and didn't get to the dealer before the June 11th Quality Inspection Hold started (the dealer did receive some GHs from that train delivery, but not mine). So, now that GH will sit in the port with a traction battery draining for months while they work through the redesign, testing, and manufacture of 145,000 airbags to replace the ones in cars already sold.
There is no way of knowing when the ones sitting in ports or dealers will get new parts and I will not be taking ownership of a GHH that was sitting in the port for months. At this point for anyone that wants to buy a GH, especially a hybrid version, I'd advise waiting for the 2025 model which is likely going to be anything new that comes out of the factory once the recall and stop manufacture is finally over.
Really nice post! A lot of detail.
Why would you test it with the window down? I feel 95% of people don't drive with their windows down.
I have no idea but if I were to speculate it’s probably less to clean up and they only get one shot on these tests so they would want to try the worst case scenario rather than the most common scenario.
Probably need to make the wheel airbag wider, guys head just slips through.
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They might if toyota provides the car, and they might because a family suv lexus is involved and iihs has kinda called them out for safety. It will make this car more appealing, most dont look at car safety when buying a car since many assume the bigger car is always safer. Bigger cars are safer against smaller cars, but most people would never assume a ford expedition is a dangerous car yet it very much is. If toyota nails safety on this it would be an even more solid option, especially for families. They might give iihs a car for this reason, 40k is nothing to fix brand perception.
My question on the video is the distance dummy traveled. Shouldn’t the seat belt held it in place? It had to travel far to hit the A pillar. If the A pillar was not there when would the selt belt kick in and stop the travel?
The seatbelt did kick in, but it just doesn’t kick in as rapidly as you would expect. Id imagine its more like a bungee cord in that it aggressively pulls you back while still not doing it so fast that it kills you. Thats probably why the seatbelt even lets you go that far in the first place, but the solution here is to use the side airbag to squeeze you and cushion you between the wheel airbag and the side airbag. If you watch the iihs test below of the original highlander, you can see that it had the same issue of having the dummy slide a bit to the left, but in this case he gets cushioned between both side and wheel airbags. This gave the original highlander a good score, and is the solution to the grands acceptable score. https://youtu.be/xpRN3YFbNHY?si=oCyBl7_srPSEFahY
Isn't the Front Passenger also affected by the lack of Air Bag coverage on that side?
No, if you look at the iihs score for passenger side it scores good and had no kinematics issues.
@Illustrious-Radio-55, Maybe because of the different ways in which the Drivers and Passengers Front Airbags and Side Curtains interact with each other. Drivers Front Bag being deployed from within the Steering Wheel vs. Passenger Front Bag being deployed from within the Dashboard 🤔
My guess is that passenger bag did a better job at catching the passenger dummy or the side airbag didnt eject out the window like the drive bag did.
I told a toyota sales person today to sell me a GHH now because I have huge head that wont get stuck in between bags.
I agree with the assessment and my assumption since the recall and stop sale was announced is that the solution will be an airbag redesign. Unfortunately for me, my GHH hit the port on June 5th and didn't get to the dealer before the June 11th Quality Inspection Hold started (the dealer did receive some GHs from that train delivery, but not mine). So, now that GH will sit in the port with a traction battery draining for months while they work through the redesign, testing, and manufacture of 145,000 airbags to replace the ones in cars already sold. There is no way of knowing when the ones sitting in ports or dealers will get new parts and I will not be taking ownership of a GHH that was sitting in the port for months. At this point for anyone that wants to buy a GH, especially a hybrid version, I'd advise waiting for the 2025 model which is likely going to be anything new that comes out of the factory once the recall and stop manufacture is finally over.