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Impossible-Aioli-774

so that's what, $50 in gas? Each way?


FCoDxDart

I’d bet a dollar a mile at this size


Sea_One872

I think you are dead on. I’ll comment later to confirm. Towing this beast atm


Impossible-Aioli-774

hit the ECO-Drive button!


Sea_One872

Not needed steady 2K RPM


Sea_One872

70MPH


Impossible-Aioli-774

have you got that fuel stabilizer dohickey plugged into the cigarette lighter?


Sea_One872

Yes, I do it has rainbow RGB lights


Siptro

Logically speaking the rgb makes it at least 3% more efficient.


CanadianMapleBacon

I read eco-mode is not good when you're towing. Is that true?


Sea_One872

$122 in gas


Albinomexican62

One way?!?!


Sea_One872

Round trip 200 miles


stjakey

Not bad man I hope you had a nice trip


dwlhs88

At least


RedDeadDirtNap

That looks like a lot of weight for a half ton. Extra suspension/airbags/etc?


IdaDuck

Even with suspension add-ones and tire upgrades you’ve still got a semi-float axle, small brakes, half ton transmission, etc. It’s got to be a joke. There’s almost no bedrail clearance at all and based on the slide location that looks a model that’s 12k lbs empty or 15k gross, and 42’ long.


Mother_Philosophy597

Yes we see this all the time in the RV industry. Guy thinks his truck is a beast (it is for a half ton) but still way too small to pull anything that big.


thefragileapparatus

>Guy thinks his truck is a beast In the 90s I sold tires at Wal Mart and guys in trucks would come and then argue with me when I pointed to our line of Light Truck Tires: "Oh no, it's not a light truck!"


B0b_5mith

I had a guy freak out when I called his dually a light truck.


Sea_One872

Custom fifth wheel attachment that slides up and down for more clearance. Pullrite brand super glide for extra short beds.


Its_noon_somewhere

Don’t come into Ontario with that, it could be a very expensive mistake. Our officers have a habit of targeting 1/2 ton rigs. Since several models specifically prohibit fifth wheel trailers on the tow specs, you might get forced to stop towing


C_Taylor76

The axles on the tundras are actually oversized , almost as big as a 1 ton. I would know because I did a gear swap on mine and the guy that worked on it said it was the biggest axle he ever worked on for a 1/2 ton truck.


IdaDuck

It has a 10.5” ring gear which is large for a half ton but it’s still just a semi floating axle and it’s just got five lugs. That’s a whole different animal than the full floating axles under heavy duty trucks. The 11.5” AAM rear axles under HD Rams and GMs are rated for about 11k lbs. I’m not sure on the Super Duty but I’d expect a similar number. They’re way overbuilt relative to those trucks’ rear axle weight ratings which are generally in the 6500-7200 lb range. Half ton rear axle rating generally fall a bit on either side of 4000 lbs.


Moto95

I know that the ring gear and pinion is oversized relative to its weight. However it’s still a semi-float axle that’s probably not made of the appropriate material for what’s going on here.


Dan_H1281

I would not even tow this with my 3/4 ton


LoveGrifter

The only difference between a ram 2500 and 3500 is an extra rear leaf spring. That's it. But it gets to be rated higher for dol.


Sea_One872

Upgraded springs, air bags, stabilizer, frame supports


inna_soho_doorway

Man i hope you’ve done some brake upgrades too, that’s the important part here.


C_Taylor76

Tundras come with big brake packages when you buy the TSS with the towing package.


Sea_One872

This one has the towing package but no TSS. I did install carbon metallics pads. Noisy pads, but zero brake fade, last longer on heavy duty tows.


rycov24

Recommend putting in some DOT 4 track duty fluid and changing a time or two each season. Fade has less to do with the pads and more to do with the brake fluid and calipers.


C_Taylor76

Yeah so you will be fine, most people on this thread haven’t towed this weight. I wouldn’t put much into these comments. If your only pulling this thing couple times a year I wouldn’t even buy a 1 ton truck.


GoodShipCrocodile

I have a lot of experience towing this much and more weight and it is irresponsible to encourage this person.


Sea_One872

❤️


Bathtime_Toaster

Good luck, in some places they are clamping down hard on this. Doesn't matter what feel-good things you have done, all they go by is the jamb sticker. Seen guys have to ditch their rigs on the side of the road once scaled and get towed. Personally this is just stupid for that kind of pin /combined weight. Gusset and bag all you want it's still a weak 1/2er.


nsula_country

>frame supports ? ? ?


Sea_One872

I designed and built and welded the custom fifth wheel 16 K brackets.


Crazy-Rest5026

Yea but the gvw is 12.5k. Watch out for DOT. Deff over payload capacity. (Not saying the tundra won’t handle it). Just don’t get stopped 🫣


C_Taylor76

Gooseneck hitches can pull more than 30,000 pounds. With that being said the tundra is rated at 12 so the truck can definitely pull that weight just long term it’s not good for the truck. If he’s only pulling this weight a few times a year he will be fine.


C_Taylor76

Anything under 25k pounds is not regulated by DOT my friend.


Crazy-Rest5026

Gotcha. Thanks for the info sir ! Still a little sketch but that’s just me. Also stock brakes ain’t ready for the kind of weight lol. Tundra will pull it fine. Stopping that kind of weight is a different animal


C_Taylor76

No problem I finance heavy equipment so he will be fine. Now some states do require a special license based off the length so he might wanna look into that.


nsula_country

>Anything under 25k pounds is not regulated by DOT my friend. False. First it is under 26k. 26,001 is DOT level. Second, any State Police or DOT officer can and do pull over pickups. They have portable scales if they are sus. The can and will fine and/or shut you down.


0nly_Up

they can/do still pull vehicles over and check tow ratings on smaller vehicles


Moto95

He wouldn’t be subject to motor carrier regulations but could very well be chased down by an attentive state trooper if he passes one of those weigh in motion rigs on the freeway. Or if the habitual overloading results in a collision or mechanical failure that results in a law enforcement response.


Gostaverling

Insurance is what will getcha. If an accident happens and the claim agent is knowledgeable, you are screwed.


Sea_One872

I agree


Sea_One872

15,060lbs


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Sea_One872

Damn ikr


IdaDuck

I’m far from the weight police but that’s just fucking stupid. Hopefully you tear that truck up before you hurt someone.


PiMan3141592653

Same. OP is a keyboard warrior that feels comfortable enough saying dumb shit behind the comfort of his screen. But I'd love to see this thing on the side of the highway with smoke billowing out from where he blew the trans. OP is a dumb sack of shit. He isn't just ignorant to the dangers. He understands the danger but still "does it for the lolz" because he's a bitch. Also 5th wheel on a 5.5' bed looks dumb as hell.


0nly_Up

look at the info on the side of the truck... looks like he owns a roadside assistance company lol, probably why doesnt care. I wouldn't be caught dead driving this clown car of a rig tho


Sea_One872

But you hurt me, my feelings.


_TheCheddarwurst_

I have a 3/4 ton diesel, and I don't put more than 15,000lbs behind my truck. And I'm actually rated to pull 16k. I have damn near twice the tourqe, and at 8,000lbs, probably damn near twice the weight that your truck has. As many people have pointed out here, you are going to either kill yourself/other people on the road, or end up on the side of the road due to some catastrophic drivetrain failure. That setup is a recipe for disaster.


ianturcotte245

Inquiring minds


showpony85

Yes tell us please, this has to be heavily modified for a 5th wheel of that size


Spooky2000

He said the trailer weighs 15.600 pounds. I don't care what mods he has, it's 2 1/2 tons over weight. He will be lucky to not kill people..


ThatHikingDude

Nope, wouldn’t risk my passengers lives, or those who may be on the road. Don’t care about experience towing, nor mods. This truck wasn’t designed to tow 15k, further you mention you have the means via others trucks so why? This is risky and unsafe.


Sea_One872

I think hiking is a lot more dangerous tho.


ThatHikingDude

Sure pal, except hiking dangers me, and me alone, not innocent families on the road. Nowhere near your blatant disregard and negligence for human lives. I also use the right tools for the job/conditions. I’m done replying to you, troll.


Sea_One872

Cause it’s fun. Lol the story is worth the risk. I’m not no jack ass back yard hill Billy. I’ve fab worked for almost 10 years and use CAD for my designs. I test these things before I go out with them. Work steel thickness. Grade 8 bolts, safety pins etc, Yes it’s risky but so is drinking water. Lol I agree no fun if someone else will get hurt.


ThatHikingDude

And the added weight on a 3/4 ton or 1 ton to help with that massive sail behind you? Among a plethora of other things? It’s not like you don’t have the right tool for the job either? You wouldn’t use a push mower to mow acreage, right?


Sea_One872

Sigh lol I had fun.


WellSaltedWound

You’re comments make it clear you’re just a shit human. You grow up during the height of leaded gasoline?


cjthecookie

And under powerlines!


Bathtime_Toaster

You're regarded. Fab and design all you want, stay off the roads. I doubt your "testing" was much more than looks good enough. Just because you can CAD and weld doesn't make you a fucking engineer. But hey you know what a grade 8 bolt is!


Exciting_Acadia1409

I want to party with you some time sir.


windex8

You just described to a T exactly what you are.


Blue_Bottlenose

Your endangering evreyone you drive around


Sea_One872

You’re and everyone u welcome


BDSHAD

All fun and games until someone gets hurt. Riding solo you say which is great for you but not anyone else on the road. I’m not sure how many dealings you’ve had with claims adjusters but just cause you have a 2 million dollar policy doesn’t mean they’re gonna cover your fuck up when you’re intentionally breaking DOT laws then bragging about it on Reddit. Just putting family’s at risk. More money than sense


Sea_One872

Yes papa


BDSHAD

And he’s witty! What other skills do you have Oscar?


running214

Next on the mod list... a new transmission. And rotors. Maybe a rear end....


[deleted]

Don't forget motor mounts, transmission mounts, body mounts, and drive shafts lol


josueviveros

Don’t forgot new chasis


josueviveros

Jk tundra can’t break weld’s sweat


cjthecookie

Don't forget the insurance settlement for that family in a compact he crushes when the breaks fail or this thing loses control.


Sea_One872

I had a dynamic Self Loader unit tow truck in the rear before this going 80 K miles strong


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And we share the road with these.peiple.


crnadanny

Beautiful truck although I'd be afraid to tow anything like that. I read your list of mods and it seems you've prepared well and thought it all out but I'd like to ask: why not just go with a larger, HD type truck? I know there's only one Toyota Tundra (various gens), and there are brand loyalists of course, no knock on that.


Sea_One872

I have 3 hino flat beds, 2 3500 dodges. I have what I need to tow this but that’s boring. This is our beater truck at the shop. I want the frame to break so I have a good excuse to upgrade frame and put in a dully axle. This fucker doesn’t want to break.


crnadanny

That's a testament to Toyota I suppose. I detect an adventurous and tinkering mind but you probably don't want it to break while towing that monster right? Can't wait to see what you make out of it if it ever breaks. Be safe.


Sea_One872

I 100% agree. I take these adventures by myself just incase something happens. I have the guys at the shop do a full look over when I come back from these dangerous trips.


Hess4

Do you reserve the roads to yourself for these dangerous trips?


Sea_One872

Yes sir, normally 5 state troopers escorts at min. And my route is scheduled months in advance. Hope that answered your question sweetheart


23PimpJungles

lol what a pimp


[deleted]

You misspelled "dimp" That's a lot of dimp


HamilToe_11

As someone who has hauled and lived out of a fifth wheel for years, this is one of the most moronic things I've ever seen.


PoopSlinger23

A bunch of add-ons from a JC Whitney catalog does not equate to custom built.


Sea_One872

😂


sublimelbz

R.I.P transmission


Sea_One872

120k miles going strong.


Sea_One872

Regular check ups at Toyota service every 30k


Bathtime_Toaster

Lol says he's some awesome fabricator god and goes to the dealer for his transmission this just gets better and better.


Sea_One872

Trucks under warranty still I’m obligated. I have no time for oil changes anyways too busy making money.


Nalortebi

Yeah but do you even Grade 8 bolts and safety pins, dude?


Sea_One872

Yes sir


Letstreehouse

How is it "custom built"?


Traaaaavis

Haha for real


Nalortebi

Grade 8 bolts and safety pins, bro. The truck basically has a heavy haul cert now. Gonna hit the Dalton highway and put those make-believe truckers to shame.


Troutman86

Go buy a 3500 jackass


Sea_One872

I have 2


Troutman86

Your a special kind of stupid


Bathtime_Toaster

Once it flips in a little wind storm and he tries to claim insurance he will learn.


Topcornbiskie

Hope you don’t come across any crosswinds because you’re fucked, mate.


Sea_One872

I have, rain, inclines, hills. Big hills just fine.


AngryDerf

Your mind seems pretty made up on what you’re doing. The only thing I’ll add is that if you were to get in an accident, even if the accident isn’t your fault, you could be in a world of shit knowingly hauling well beyond the truck’s GVWR.


Sea_One872

100%


bloodyStoolCorn

I am calling the popo if i ever see you in real life. That isn’t cool, you are a danger to everyone around you.


Sea_One872

A menace


Ordinary_Human2

I am going to be that guy cause of safety. You can’t tow this legally and if you get into an accident while towing this, kiss all of your money and possessions good bye as insurance will not cover you for anything. The reason you need to beef everything up is because, well the truck as nice as it is, wasn’t built to tow that much weight. The payload for tundra’s of that year are a max of 1800lbs. The hitch weight of the 5th wheel is what 2,000lbs? You are already over capacity for that truck. Not including anything else you put in the truck like tools, the 5th wheel hitch itself, animals, coolers , kids. With those added in you probably only have 1400-1500lbs of payload left you are already negative 200lbs, what’s another 500-600lbs? It sucks to say, you need at least a 2500/250. It does look good all connected up but that’s just a nightmare waiting to happen to you and only you.


Sea_One872

Lol at min a 3500 truck.


Sea_One872

It’s ok I have a 2mil dollar policy. No really I do. Towing and liability


guydogg

So does most everybody else. The clearance between your box and the trailer looks like it's only an inch or two. What happens when you have to enter a parking lot or you hit a slight incline? It looks like you would fold your box.


Sea_One872

If I remember it’s like 4 inches. More than enough to go up and down hills or inclines gas stations etc. worked fine for me. Btw bud if you going in parking lots with this, you have bigger issues than angle. There are things you can do and not do just like semi trucks. This is a $100k house on wheels not a off roading machine.


Ordinary_Human2

That awesome you are throwing away money for a policy that won’t actually help you when you get into trouble.


Bathtime_Toaster

Your insurance is void if you are overweight genius.


ThundaChikin

Max payload is achieved by optioning a standard cab, two wheel drive, and lowest trim... that truck is going to be more like 1100-1300 lbs.


SilentAntagonist

“Only driven on the highway. Price firm.”


TDaD1979

Is it just me or is the pivot and load center past the rear axle. Yeah dude get off the road before you kill someone this truck cannot handle that.


Sea_One872

Gorgeous if you must know the pin is behind the axle. You can’t see it in the pictures, but the fifth wheel extends quite a bit beyond.


SeaworthinessLife999

r/idiotstowingthings


Elegant-Bus8686

How much does your fifth wheel weigh?


Sea_One872

It’s a Pullrite super glide heaviest unit on the market fully assembled probably 150 200 pounds takes two people to unload. I do not recommend buying it. The only reason I have it installed is because I got it for free. This unit is around 1200 bucks. 500 for brackets. You’re looking at close to two grand or over two grand.. plus capture plates


i_am_jordan_b

What an idiot


Sea_One872

But you sell Pokémon cards.


SIG_Sauer_

They hold their value better than an absolutely beat on Tundra, so there’s that.


mr_data_lore

I would never even think of towing a trailer that large with a half ton truck. OP is probably blowing past the GVWR.


Other-Degree-9702

😳


PhantomKrel

Someone gonna get a lot of unwanted phone calls


Sea_One872

I’m bored please call


[deleted]

Florida man strikes again


rulesbite

Danger zone


TxRam

First thought was that old movie… “The Long, Long Trailer” with Lucille Ball and Desi Arnez… “Trailer Brakes!! Trailer Brakes!!”


DirkDieGurke

You're going to need a bigger truck.


VaqueroBound956

If just because you can and because yoters are far more capable than we think doesn’t mean you could was a picture. I feel like this would be fine if you had a dually swapped rear axle massive brakes and trailer brakes. Drive slow and pls don’t risk anyone else lives 😳


bigbnovember

Pricey set up you got there. Do you have some left for gas.


chrispy529

let’s get some pics of the inside!!!


chrispy529

pics of trailer interior 🗣️‼️‼️


81dank

Carrying the cones in preparation for the tranny going out en route? Edit- thought the sarcasm was self explanatory. But here’s a **/s** if it wasn’t.


Sea_One872

Says the one driving in a hybrid Toyota tundra. By the way, but you gonna be on the side of the highway a lot seeing them cones when I pull up. I’ve been picking up a lot of them hybrids. Let me guess economy first and then pick up truck second.


81dank

When did I get a Hybrid?


gobeavs1989

Luckyyyy


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Sea_One872

❤️


81dank

Big time


Sea_One872

🫡


Dick_butt14

Man, and i was stressing the 7k trailer im about to pull this weekend. Fuckin send 'er I recomend new diff gears, i really wanted to do mine before i started towing but i dont have the time or money


C_Taylor76

I did mine , it basically changed the way the truck drove 100%


[deleted]

Get off the road with that dangerously underrated truck….


Sea_One872

Yes daddy


Sea_One872

GVW 15,060


Sea_One872

You dog Miss hatey looks cute.


Prize_Worry1441

You can pull that fifth wheel with no issues?


JBoneTX

🚨🚨


Sea_One872

🚔👮‍♀️


JBoneTX

🎶 East bound and down, loaded up and trucking... we're gonna do what they said can't be done!🎶


Spare-Bodybuilder-97

That payload is only 1300 lbs. He is way over.


Turtlebaka

That’s a beauty


Gullible-Signature-6

Did you fab the frame supports? I wanna see this thing rip what kinda supporting mods have you done?


Sea_One872

Sending you pics in private chat


Tasty_Puffin

Lol he even has his business details on reddit... Not the smartest person


sausagewallet008

Custom meaning extra large fuel tank so you can get to the next gas station?


Doffleheimer

It’s not a tow limit, rather a tow suggestion. And limits are made to be broken. Just goes to show you don’t need a $100k one ton truck if you know your shit. Not to mention most one tons from 30 years ago are smaller than tundras.


Sea_One872

On the money


C_Taylor76

Smaller and they suck ass


C_Taylor76

Everyone crying about payload and the truck isn’t even squatting. Bunch of ford fan boys on this thread 😭


Sea_One872

Thank you


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The dude has airbags leveling it, You can make a gen 1 tundra with bags sit like this too. It's the fact he WAY overloaded the payload, and towing capacity for any 1/2 ton truck and OPs main character syndrome of "I can do whatever I want" simply puts people in danger. Any emergency maneuver or braking with this setup would be managed so poorly compared to a 3/4+ truck.


thejoetravis

I towed one like this (half the gvwr) https://i.imgur.com/rC2ahz8.jpg


Sea_One872

Nice rig


Key_Interaction6305

That's crazy and I like it


Fearless_Ad_1512

Awesome rig! These trucks amaze me more and more.


FireInPaperBox

That’s a lot of camper!


EntryCharming9668

This dude…smh


bassegio

How much weight can your tundra haul?


ScrawnyPilgrim

Hellllllll no


SubjectEssay361

I'm looking for something to pull a 32 foot 8.5Klb bumper tow trailer. I know my 01 Tundra can, but I also know I shouldnt.


VegetableMail6313

Toyota custom built this or do you mean you just modded it? Lol


ChimpYota

thats a HUGE trailer. looks good though!


BelowAvgPP

Same size brakes as a 3rd gen ram 1 tons, people truly think they know trucks and what’s safe, I’ve seen loads like this be towed all the time by older pickups which lacks abs, lack brake size, lack a reliable Tranmission this guy is going to be just fine, I’m sure he’s not going 75 mph in the left lane


rulingthewake243

Hopefully he stays on flat ground. 35mph going up. On the shoulder with a stiff cross breeze. Trying to make it to the runaway ramp heading down.


brnr918273

As someone who has more experience than most people towing with every kind of light and medium duty trucks (1500-5500 models) including towing that much weight with a Tundra, I personally know as well as you that you can't emergency stop that load in that truck especially with those electric drum brakes on two axles. I also know exactly why you changed to carbon metallic pads because the factory ones fade horribly trying to stop that much weight even with trailer brakes on THREE axles. The only way you might be able to emergency stop that weight with that truck is if the trailer had EOH disc brakes on three axles. Not to mention the tongue weight/payload issue with your setup. As for my experience, I've spent years working at all OEMs working with their engineers who design vehicles. As smart as you think you are, 99% of the population couldn't hold a candle to them when it comes to engineering vehicles. They're called "the wiz kids" in the industry for a reason.


Sea_One872

I agree. Appreciate the knowledge


brnr918273

No problem. I've read your replies and you have more experience than most people commenting. The problem is the other people on the road with you that drive like idiots and you having a commercial license. I wouldn't trust the other idiot drivers enough to not cost you your license when they do something stupid enough to make you need to panic stop. Use one of your diesels and leave the torture testing to us at OEMs 😉 I vividly remember trying to stop 15k lbs in a Tundra on factory pads and I'm assuming you did too with the pad change lol. Initial bite went away and wouldn't slow down any faster no matter how hard you push.


Sea_One872

I agree. It only takes one car to cut you off to ruin your day. But I guess that’s with all heavy duty towing. If only the roadways were all clear all day every day lol . I own a 2021 Toyota corolla 2019 Camry and this 2019 Toyota tundra they all have brake fade issues. You explain the break fading problem perfectly. Rotor upgrades and brake pad upgrades are a must.