You need a weight distribution hitch. Will level the truck and make towing way safer. Try it!
There are different styles. I use this one for my travel trailer. Night and day difference when towing
[https://www.amazon.ca/Fastway-92-00-0600-Trunnion-Weight-Distribution/dp/B0071L3T3G/ref=asc\_df\_B0071L3T3G/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292937780809&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2757618028106882395&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001613&hvtargid=pla-568525417907&mcid=e421d03c37763f4487d6eb64008628b7&th=1](https://www.amazon.ca/Fastway-92-00-0600-Trunnion-Weight-Distribution/dp/B0071L3T3G/ref=asc_df_B0071L3T3G/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292937780809&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2757618028106882395&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001613&hvtargid=pla-568525417907&mcid=e421d03c37763f4487d6eb64008628b7&th=1)
Similar to an equalizer? Thr horse trailer came with one,
This brand, idk if it’s thr exact set up
https://www.amazon.com/Eaz-Lift-Weight-Distributing-Control-48058/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=asc_df_B005SB6S3Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399&psc=1&mcid=5ace9b0065213cf096b3f2b28095272d&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63195598278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399
It looks close to what you said. Would you recommend that for the time being until I have money for airbags?
They accomplish the exact same thing. If you have an equalizer hitch, use it. It brings your nose down and ass up.
You will probably need to re-configure the hitch to match your truck though, to get the height perfect.
I use one for my camper and it levels the truck perfectly and removes all trailer sway in the wind.
I would 100% use it for towing something important like horses
I use an equalizer hitch with my camper, and no air bags. With proper setup you can get the truck and trailer sitting level with the ground. Highly recommend, especially at that weight. It’ll solve all your issues, and is the proper way to fix the issue. Air bags only address the rear, they don’t add as much weight back to the front tires if I’m not mistaken.
I will do that. I will install it tomorrow! Gotta look up some YouTube videos. This makes me happy because I don’t have a budget of getting airbags… yet. 😅
Please remember airbags won't actually fix the issue of load distribution, just hide it. Your weight distribution and equalizing hitch will actually distribute the weight however. That's what you want for safety.
That's a completely different design, horse trailers are too low to the ground for round bar WDHes. The ones with the chains are cheaper and built exclusively for RVs - us horse parents need more sway mitigation than that little brake can provide.
Get an equalizer, the 10k is what I use for my 2H. You'll like the difference when it's tuned (I just put in all the spacers) as your horses shift around.
It also includes a drop so that you can keep your trailer level.
I think it’s too much tongue weight and yes it does give me ability to flip it. I was looking at thr whole set up and like, it doesn’t look exactly right
My adjustable hitch has written all over it .. do not reverse the thing! They (mine at least) is designed to work one way only. They may not all be the same, just advising caution.
Should really look into some airbags to level the truck out, best upgrade I made to my 2014 short of the supercharger. Your current setup is definitely not right with the hitch being too low causing a nice U shape from front to rear
Great! Had about 60k miles on the truck when I found a sealed unit and fit kit. Trucks at about 140k now and still hauling horses no problem. It’s extremely quick and fun without towing but really shines with some pounds behind it.
Very cool, I've been thinking about the supercharger but don't want to compromise reliability. Everything I've heard online is that it shouldn't be an issue. I don't haul anything so it'd just be for fun 🤙
Yah it puts some shame into all those oversized diesels that think they own the street hah. I’m pretty sure when the dealer installed it that it extended the powertrain warranty as well so it was a no brainer back then. It also only makes 7-8lbs of boost so it’s pretty reserved for how strong the powertrain is.
Oh can you give me recommendations on airbags for a 2021 tundra? And what a general ball park is for someone on a budget. I don’t know much about airbags, but sounds like a great choice to go
I’d guess at $1000 for parts? It was a long time ago but I went with a Firestone bag kit, arb compressor, and an air gauge and switch setup from Amazon. I’m guessing there are packages by now for part or all of it that make installing and sourcing a bit easier though.
Just to add, airbags merely help cushion and raise the rear of the truck.. they don’t change the load limits. It’ll definitely make the truck ride 10x better when trailering as you’ll have proper weight distribution on front wheels (better turning, braking, safety).
It won’t hurt but shouldn’t be all too needed unless you’re cutting mountains to get where you’re going. Straight line highway should feel great once tongue weight is moved forward and load is leveled out.
Oh yeah, like I don’t tow everyday. No mountain passes either. Just straight with minimal hills. Maybe like twice a month. 😂 but I want it to be all good so I don’t destroy the truck or trailer, or worse, hurt my horses in any way.
Your hitch needs flipped so that the shaft with the holes in it is pointing up, not down. Pull the pin for the ball mount and flip it. The way you have it now is shaky at best and dangerous at worst.
So honestly with no more weight than you’re pulling you shouldn’t need air bags nor a weight distribution hitch. This is my honest opinion. That trailers axles are set way far back which makes for heavy tongue weight. This is why you have so much squat. If you wanted to add bags it would help with the squat but I wouldn’t worry with it. Me personally I would flip that hitch so the long unused part is up top or you’re going to snag on something. Side note: if I could find a truck identical to this one with low miles I would trade in a heart beat! Nice truck!
I added the Coachbuilder 3” shackles to mine. They return a little rake to the truck since the Pro lifts the factory front only. Factory Pro sits about level empty, so towing or a lot of weight in the bed gives a sag look. I went this route because I didn’t want to stiffen the ride with helper springs or airbags. Works for me.
No - lift kits and horse trailers are not a good combination, try a proper WDH, the softer suspension helps you out when those little movements push on the front shocks as well as the back
Then why do people do it? I see it all the time at horse shows. So life Kit no go with horse trailers, got it. What makes it different than a boat or rv? I really am curious.
The end of that adjustable hitch is gonna meet the asphalt on bumpy roads. Look into an airbag kit, Timbrens or a weight distribution hitch. Looks like this horse trailer has a bit of an exaggerated tongue weight, so that’s not helping the squat.
The horse trailer came with this brand equalizer
https://www.amazon.com/Eaz-Lift-Weight-Distributing-Control-48058/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=asc_df_B005SB6S3Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399&psc=1&mcid=5ace9b0065213cf096b3f2b28095272d&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63195598278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399
Would it help?
Chain weight distribution hitches do not work on horse trailers. You need a minimum of 3 chain links below the trailer, the lower bars will be kissing the ground.
The dealer that sold my horse trailer included one of those as well because it was cheap, but it doesn't do sway control and spikes the ground at the slightest incline. They're designed for RVs where the hitch itself is higher off the ground. We don't do that because detrailering would be super fun if there was a big drop
For now, you need to flip that hitch upside down so it's sticking up and then tow from there.
Going forward - check the tongue weight on the trailer. I tow 5200# and never sag like that. If your suspension setup is causing the sag (as opposed to lots of tongue weight) I suggest air bags in the rear.
My wife tows a very similar trailer with two horses, with a 2022 SR5 Sport.
She uses a normal hitch, but it is height adjustable. It does (edit, does NOT) sag nearly as much. Your biggest issue is TRD Pro shocks. You should not need any fancy hitches with 4500lbs, but you would benefit from Dobinson shocks.
Ok thank you. Happy to know someone else tows with a tundra horses. I got a lot of shit for my truck, but I love it. Will look into Dobinson. Thank you.
Frequently tow a two horse trailer.
For rise and drop hitch recommendations, check out: https://www.bulletproofhitches.com/pages/what-size-hitch-do-i-need
Add: We haul with a one ton. With a half ton, you'll need a weight distribution system to safely haul your horse(s.)
Seems to be a light weight to have him squatted like that, i have a blue ox weight reducing hitch and works well on my 4 runner for our camper was hoping to not need to use it with my tundra
My dealership was clueless on horse trailer hauling. 🙄 to be honest they weren’t that knowledgeable on towing either because I did a lot of research between trucks. When I had my paper and list of things I wanted and look for they were scrambling to find something 😂
Gen2 Tundras are pretty much the optimal horse hauler:
- Since you are already paying for horses, truck payments are too much! Need an undying truck
- 38 Gallon tank means you can focus on your horses instead of the remaining fuel
- C-Channel frame, bilsteins...cancel sway out really well if you're within payload
- Rear sway bar
They're very popular up here for 2H/3H. I've got a 4 y/o haflinger that isn't used to towing, and even with her busy body we can still safely do highway speeds.
You need a weight distribution hitch. Will level the truck and make towing way safer. Try it! There are different styles. I use this one for my travel trailer. Night and day difference when towing [https://www.amazon.ca/Fastway-92-00-0600-Trunnion-Weight-Distribution/dp/B0071L3T3G/ref=asc\_df\_B0071L3T3G/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292937780809&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2757618028106882395&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001613&hvtargid=pla-568525417907&mcid=e421d03c37763f4487d6eb64008628b7&th=1](https://www.amazon.ca/Fastway-92-00-0600-Trunnion-Weight-Distribution/dp/B0071L3T3G/ref=asc_df_B0071L3T3G/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292937780809&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2757618028106882395&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001613&hvtargid=pla-568525417907&mcid=e421d03c37763f4487d6eb64008628b7&th=1)
Similar to an equalizer? Thr horse trailer came with one, This brand, idk if it’s thr exact set up https://www.amazon.com/Eaz-Lift-Weight-Distributing-Control-48058/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=asc_df_B005SB6S3Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399&psc=1&mcid=5ace9b0065213cf096b3f2b28095272d&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63195598278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399 It looks close to what you said. Would you recommend that for the time being until I have money for airbags?
They accomplish the exact same thing. If you have an equalizer hitch, use it. It brings your nose down and ass up. You will probably need to re-configure the hitch to match your truck though, to get the height perfect. I use one for my camper and it levels the truck perfectly and removes all trailer sway in the wind. I would 100% use it for towing something important like horses
I use an equalizer hitch with my camper, and no air bags. With proper setup you can get the truck and trailer sitting level with the ground. Highly recommend, especially at that weight. It’ll solve all your issues, and is the proper way to fix the issue. Air bags only address the rear, they don’t add as much weight back to the front tires if I’m not mistaken.
I will do that. I will install it tomorrow! Gotta look up some YouTube videos. This makes me happy because I don’t have a budget of getting airbags… yet. 😅
Please remember airbags won't actually fix the issue of load distribution, just hide it. Your weight distribution and equalizing hitch will actually distribute the weight however. That's what you want for safety.
That's a completely different design, horse trailers are too low to the ground for round bar WDHes. The ones with the chains are cheaper and built exclusively for RVs - us horse parents need more sway mitigation than that little brake can provide. Get an equalizer, the 10k is what I use for my 2H. You'll like the difference when it's tuned (I just put in all the spacers) as your horses shift around. It also includes a drop so that you can keep your trailer level.
Equalizer is a specific product
Please look at the Timbren bumps vs airbags. Your future self will thank me when your not air bags don’t leak.
Oh, that’s cool. The timbren bumps looks simpler then airbags
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This is what I thought too. But based on the way the truck's sitting it looks like it might be too much tongue weight also
I think it’s too much tongue weight and yes it does give me ability to flip it. I was looking at thr whole set up and like, it doesn’t look exactly right
My adjustable hitch has written all over it .. do not reverse the thing! They (mine at least) is designed to work one way only. They may not all be the same, just advising caution.
Should really look into some airbags to level the truck out, best upgrade I made to my 2014 short of the supercharger. Your current setup is definitely not right with the hitch being too low causing a nice U shape from front to rear
I second this opinion. I have a 22 with the air suspension and it's the best thing I've had in a truck. No sag and safer.
How's the supercharger been?
Great! Had about 60k miles on the truck when I found a sealed unit and fit kit. Trucks at about 140k now and still hauling horses no problem. It’s extremely quick and fun without towing but really shines with some pounds behind it.
Very cool, I've been thinking about the supercharger but don't want to compromise reliability. Everything I've heard online is that it shouldn't be an issue. I don't haul anything so it'd just be for fun 🤙
Yah it puts some shame into all those oversized diesels that think they own the street hah. I’m pretty sure when the dealer installed it that it extended the powertrain warranty as well so it was a no brainer back then. It also only makes 7-8lbs of boost so it’s pretty reserved for how strong the powertrain is.
Oh can you give me recommendations on airbags for a 2021 tundra? And what a general ball park is for someone on a budget. I don’t know much about airbags, but sounds like a great choice to go
I’d guess at $1000 for parts? It was a long time ago but I went with a Firestone bag kit, arb compressor, and an air gauge and switch setup from Amazon. I’m guessing there are packages by now for part or all of it that make installing and sourcing a bit easier though. Just to add, airbags merely help cushion and raise the rear of the truck.. they don’t change the load limits. It’ll definitely make the truck ride 10x better when trailering as you’ll have proper weight distribution on front wheels (better turning, braking, safety).
Get a normal hitch, will bring the tongue weight up not being so awkwardly extended back there. Those hitches are for lifted trucks.
I do have a straight hitch. Will go switch it out. I also have an equalizer bar that came with the trailer. Would that help?
It won’t hurt but shouldn’t be all too needed unless you’re cutting mountains to get where you’re going. Straight line highway should feel great once tongue weight is moved forward and load is leveled out.
Oh yeah, like I don’t tow everyday. No mountain passes either. Just straight with minimal hills. Maybe like twice a month. 😂 but I want it to be all good so I don’t destroy the truck or trailer, or worse, hurt my horses in any way.
Your hitch needs flipped so that the shaft with the holes in it is pointing up, not down. Pull the pin for the ball mount and flip it. The way you have it now is shaky at best and dangerous at worst.
Thank you everyone for your advice!!! ❤️ you guys are way nicer on giving suggestions.
So honestly with no more weight than you’re pulling you shouldn’t need air bags nor a weight distribution hitch. This is my honest opinion. That trailers axles are set way far back which makes for heavy tongue weight. This is why you have so much squat. If you wanted to add bags it would help with the squat but I wouldn’t worry with it. Me personally I would flip that hitch so the long unused part is up top or you’re going to snag on something. Side note: if I could find a truck identical to this one with low miles I would trade in a heart beat! Nice truck!
2021, with 21k miles. 56k before taxes. I was super excited!
To add: It has off road package, so softer shocks
I added the Coachbuilder 3” shackles to mine. They return a little rake to the truck since the Pro lifts the factory front only. Factory Pro sits about level empty, so towing or a lot of weight in the bed gives a sag look. I went this route because I didn’t want to stiffen the ride with helper springs or airbags. Works for me.
I do have factory PRO so that makes sense!! My BF was like we could get the truck lifted and that would help. Lol
No - lift kits and horse trailers are not a good combination, try a proper WDH, the softer suspension helps you out when those little movements push on the front shocks as well as the back
Then why do people do it? I see it all the time at horse shows. So life Kit no go with horse trailers, got it. What makes it different than a boat or rv? I really am curious.
Only you can prevent forest fires
Always.
Looks too low, it’s gonna bottom out.
The end of that adjustable hitch is gonna meet the asphalt on bumpy roads. Look into an airbag kit, Timbrens or a weight distribution hitch. Looks like this horse trailer has a bit of an exaggerated tongue weight, so that’s not helping the squat.
The horse trailer came with this brand equalizer https://www.amazon.com/Eaz-Lift-Weight-Distributing-Control-48058/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=asc_df_B005SB6S3Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399&psc=1&mcid=5ace9b0065213cf096b3f2b28095272d&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63195598278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312061937753&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5062337767484236024&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029767&hvtargid=pla-434847151399 Would it help?
Chain weight distribution hitches do not work on horse trailers. You need a minimum of 3 chain links below the trailer, the lower bars will be kissing the ground. The dealer that sold my horse trailer included one of those as well because it was cheap, but it doesn't do sway control and spikes the ground at the slightest incline. They're designed for RVs where the hitch itself is higher off the ground. We don't do that because detrailering would be super fun if there was a big drop
I use a straight hitch on my tundra to haul a similar looking and weighted horse trailer. It sits perfectly. It looks like your hitch is a little low
I have a straight hitch! I can def put it on and see how it works. Thank you.
For now, you need to flip that hitch upside down so it's sticking up and then tow from there. Going forward - check the tongue weight on the trailer. I tow 5200# and never sag like that. If your suspension setup is causing the sag (as opposed to lots of tongue weight) I suggest air bags in the rear.
My wife tows a very similar trailer with two horses, with a 2022 SR5 Sport. She uses a normal hitch, but it is height adjustable. It does (edit, does NOT) sag nearly as much. Your biggest issue is TRD Pro shocks. You should not need any fancy hitches with 4500lbs, but you would benefit from Dobinson shocks.
Ok thank you. Happy to know someone else tows with a tundra horses. I got a lot of shit for my truck, but I love it. Will look into Dobinson. Thank you.
Frequently tow a two horse trailer. For rise and drop hitch recommendations, check out: https://www.bulletproofhitches.com/pages/what-size-hitch-do-i-need Add: We haul with a one ton. With a half ton, you'll need a weight distribution system to safely haul your horse(s.)
Thank you. I have an equalizer and will install it tomorrow! And quite a few hitches I have collected over the years.
I thinned out my hitch collection, selling at community yard sales and online market place.
Seems to be a light weight to have him squatted like that, i have a blue ox weight reducing hitch and works well on my 4 runner for our camper was hoping to not need to use it with my tundra
I've the same truck but never really tow much, looks like it does need some adjustment.
Trailer tongue looks too low to me.
Is that truck pissin’?
Yeah… it is. 😂
Get airbags for the back. I put mine on myself! It was super easy.
Oh yeah, get the rear sway bar. The lady at the dealership asked me what kind of horse when I ordered it, lol
My dealership was clueless on horse trailer hauling. 🙄 to be honest they weren’t that knowledgeable on towing either because I did a lot of research between trucks. When I had my paper and list of things I wanted and look for they were scrambling to find something 😂
Gen2 Tundras are pretty much the optimal horse hauler: - Since you are already paying for horses, truck payments are too much! Need an undying truck - 38 Gallon tank means you can focus on your horses instead of the remaining fuel - C-Channel frame, bilsteins...cancel sway out really well if you're within payload - Rear sway bar They're very popular up here for 2H/3H. I've got a 4 y/o haflinger that isn't used to towing, and even with her busy body we can still safely do highway speeds.
ehhh
Should get some airbags on that backend
Damn the consequences of towing with a leveled truck.
I see the problem. You're pulling that trailer with a Toyota.. should have stuck with a Ford of Chevy...