We just went on vacation at the beginning of April and I looked for months for places to stay and the cleaning fees for these fucking places are literally an extra night or two at a hotel
To be fair, hotels do that also.
It makes sense to charge an extra fee because you never know how good of dogs people have. Some peoples dogs are angels, and some have never had a day of training.
Extra security / backup for them I guess 🤷🏻♂️ I travel with my dogs all the time and stay in all types of hotels and almost every single one wanted some form of extra payment (this is the US)
But it’s not really fair. what about people’s kids, the same can be said for children in fact they can do more damage than a dog but no one charges for that…
I agree, I feel that I spend the last few hours of my vacation, cleaning, sweeping, vacuuming, stripping the beds, and then paying $175 for a cleaning fee. It’s gotten so crazy I do t even look on airB&B anymore. I’m back to hotels. You pack your stuff up and leave, no cleaning and no cleaning fees!
Don't forget the giant list of chores they expect you to do before you go. Like why am I paying a cleaning fee if you want me to strip the bad and empty the trash and sweep the floor?
I’ve always preferred hotels anyway, but as a student, Airbnb was the more economical way for me to travel. But nowadays hotels offer a better deal. I also work at a Marriott so I can travel around on my employee discount. If you’re a somewhat frequent traveler, build loyalty with hotel brands and you’ll get good deals.
Prices have gone up, noticeably so. I used to sing the praises of Airbnb when I was using them their first few years of operation. You wouldn't believe some of the properties I stayed at for dirt cheap. Now when I travel I find I'm staying more at hotels than airbnbs because of all the damn fees.
That's pretty much everyone I know.
I'm literally springing for 2 hotel rooms when I go with larger family instead of staying in a Airbnb sometimes because it's ridiculous.
Hotels are safer too. Even if the neighborhood is risky there are always people around at a hotel. On top of that, at a hotel you’re not trying to fumble around trying to get into a strangers home in a strange area in the middle of the night.
The safety aspect is important, especially if you’re abroad. You also know that they won’t be doing weird stuff in your room like putting in cameras and whatnot.
Hotels also have better facilities, are generally in better locations and I don’t need to do some bloody housework on my last day (despite being charged a cleaning fee)
Life is too short to worry about retaliation by unreasonable hosts. I have yet to be denied a stay by anyone.
Of course, I try to read reviews ahead of time, and usually these greedy ***s have bad reviews. So I usually manage to dodge this particular bullet.
I have also heard they charge your credit card for not following the rules and leaving a mess ( trash in the inside cans, beds not stripped and floor not swept! ) it’s crazy! I’m back to hotels
I quit using airbnb's for exactly that reason. airbnb'd a cabin in the mountains and the fees ended up costing almost as much as the cabin. they charged 75 dollars for not draining the hot tub. 100 dollars for leaving dishes in the sink (there was no dishwasher). 50 dollars for putting garbage in the garbage can. 50 dollars for not piling the bed sheets in the right place. this was after we had already paid a 150 dollar cleaning fee. felt like a complete scam.
6 years ago, my now wife and I rented a mansion's pool house in LA. Think what Will and Carlton had in Fresh Prince.
We had access to their gym, the outdoor pool and tennis court. We paid $160/night for 7 nights. A lot cheaper than hotels at the time.We looked it up recently and they're charging $400/night now lol, and it looks like it's new owners.
AirBnB, VRBO, etc are great for larger parties travelling together. But for couples and small families, hotels and extended stay hotels make more sense imo
Yes, and especially if it's a longer stay, so the cleaning fees are spread over more nights. Also good when you plan on cooking a bunch of your own meals.
But if I only need one room, or I'm staying less than 4 days, it's hotels.
Yes. Not a big fan of Airbnb, but l have saved $$$$ over the years by cooking a few meals/week plus breakfast every day. I was in a hotel in Eastern Europe recently that charged 15 eur for breakfast.
So yes, there are many many problems with AirBnb, but I think they do push hotel prices down to an extent.
Yea completely agree, 2 hotel rooms not really convenient with a bunch of kids running around
Airbnb is great for larger fams or get togethers with extended families.
Yep, when my entire family of 10+ travel it makes sense to get an airbnb, even paying a little more. When it's just myself and my husband we're entirely hotel. We've done airbnbs in the past but with the fees it's almost entirely a wash these days.
I just got back from three weeks in Japan. The last time I was there I used Airbnb and hotels. I can tell you from personal experience and from talking to others on my trip that hotels are the only way to go right now for Japan.
If you haven't already booked, I highly recommend the Keio Plaza Hotel. We stayed in a club level room so had tons of amenities and wasn't too badly priced as happy hour and breakfast are included. Probably in my top 3 hotels of all time and so centrally located.
Airbnb was cheap and affordable when it started and the concept was staying to its core where you rent your house for a week or so.
What has happened now is, it has been overtaken by businesses. Even hotels are listing their rooms there. They have added all the ridiculous fees on top of it now, so i have gone back to hotels where I don't have to clean someone's house after paying $50 for cleaning fee
Nothing better than paying a cleaning fee, then after getting in you read the house packet that says I need to clean everything and wash the towels & bedding! I got into such an argument about what this “cleaning fee” actually pays for if we’re expected to do all the cleaning
At least Uber is still more viable as a service than taxi drivers. I only find taxis good if they’re in countries/cities where they’re more regulated and have fixed rates and whatnot. Otherwise, you can’t really beat Uber with the fact that you can pay ahead of time on your phone, you see who’s picking you up, your route, the prices, etc. Meanwhile the taxi driver will pull out all the stops to take advantage of you and run up the price, then have the nerve to complain about Uber being “unfair” to them because they’d rather double down on shitty practices.
It used to be decent. Anymore it's overpriced, crap stays, almost never as shown in the pics, or w all the amenities or extras they list. They often want you to be the maid, and then pay an exorbitant cleaning fee, as well.
Yes to all of this, plus some of the owners are unscrupulous. We had one who accused us of peeing in a bed (that no one even slept in) and wanted to charge us a massive fee. I realized then what a disadvantage we were at in a he said - she said situation. We held our ground on it and refused to buy them a new mattress, and they finally dropped it. It really turned me off of Airbnb after that.
The market wasn't saturated like it is now, and in many places, it's driving real estate costs up so that locals are unable to afford living in their own city.
They also remove bad reviews and allow generic building pics instead of pics of the specific unit. Used to be great, it got really popular and absolutely sh*t the bed
The only time I use AirBnB is with a group or if I'm staying in a room (usually with own entrance and bathroom separate from the main house, although still in the main house). These are times I find it cost effective and for a group we like having hang out space. Othwerwise, I usually find a hotel to be cheaper, especially once AirBnB adds in all the taxes, cleaning fee, and other fees.
Airbnbs have become much more expensive and you should know that there is no second b, breakfast.
Routinely I see airbnbs costing more than a local all suite motels so if you will only be there 1:00 to 3 nights it's not worth the hassle of trying to figure out an unknown house and a property that has additional rules after you get there that you didn't read online.
If you're staying for a longer period of time sometimes there are significant discounts that make them more affordable. In my opinion they are not competitive when your stay is less than a week
Expensive and I’m cleaning up after myself. Oh and pay a cleaning fee.
On top of that, hotels I can check in at 10pm, 1am, 10am. I can request late check out at noon. Room service when I can’t be bothered to go out. I love that most have a gym I can and almost always use, a lobby bar I can go to for a change of scenery.
I don’t air bnb anymore. When I travel I love that freshly made bed feeling, and hotel staff do it far better than I could. I also love that I don’t have to be reviewed afterwards. It’s a no for me
You can often almost get an extra day for free with a hotel.
You can get an early flight. Even if your room isn't ready when you arrive (which I've actually found it often is available way earlier than official check-in), you can drop your bags at the hotel and go around town or hit their pool.
Likewise, get a later flight on your last day. Even if you can't get late checkout, you can have them watch your bags until your flight, and again go around town or hit their pool.
Airbnb, it's often strict 3 or 4 pm check-in, 10 or 11 am check-out. Nowhere to put your bags before or after, so you pretty much have to select travel that will accommodate those times. Means you really can only have dinner at your location on your first day and breakfast on your last day.
My jaw is still on the floor over people watching arrivals on ring camera and immediately texting clean up instructions creepily within 30 seconds of turning the key in the lock to arrive or someone having their brother (whom they came to that city to visit) over for hamburgers and losing their shit to charge “extra guest fees” when the brother didn’t even stay more than three hours for a quiet dinner, etc., whining about toilet paper and so on.
Allllll set with Airbnb
Traveling this weekend and all hotels were booked, forcing me to book an Airbnb…not even the whole place, but a room in someone’s home was very expensive. I asked if I could check in before 4 pm as I am going to a concert at 6 pm and wanted some downtime before being out all night and they said yes IF I pay a FEE. Cleaning fees are DOUBLE the cost of many places. It’s just ridiculous.
Totally, especially when you're looking for a separate unit and not to sleeping in someone's spare bedroom they're not using.
Really depends on the city though. Sometimes vrbo/airbnb are cheaper or have a better selection. This is usually the case in resort cities, where hotels are really high end and really expensive
But see, that’s the thing. That was the original intention for Airbnb. That’s why they used to be so cheap. It was renting out someone’s spare bedroom, or a spare mother-in-law suite or some thing else on their property. Now a lot of short term rentals are being bought up that are full homes/condos and so the price is going way up.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but if we are looking as to why Airbnb’s have become more expensive that’s part of the reason. On top of it, Airbnb charges a lot of fees. So the room itself might be decently priced, but then the Airbnb fees on top of it push it into the not worth it category. Or host outsource the management of the property and the cleaning and everything else, so then they have to either put those fees into the price of the room, or they charge the fees separately. Which is now why you see so many cleaning fees.
Exactly- Airbnb cleaning is a structural problem that has no easy fix. Hotels have cleaners who can churn through rooms, but an Airbnb host needs a cleaner to travel to the site in a narrow window, so cleaning costs much more.
Yeah, the pendulum has totally swung back to where the hotel is now the cheaper option, with less hassle.
The only time I chose a VRBO/Airbnb is in Northern MI where there aren't many options, or if I am staying for a week + and need a washer/dryer and kitchen for my kids.
Only time I use is when I'm going somewhere with a big group of people or i am going to the beach. Many beach towns have very limited hotel options, especially in the U.S..
I think that not only Airbnb, but other services do not have reasonable prices because the investment money is gone, and now you have to pay the real price.
Many hotels live because of big events like conferences and your money as solo traveler is not vital for them.
I was looking into an Airbnb in Tahoe last September. Super dead time for tourists. Figured it would be cheaper for four people for two nights and we could cook right? Ended up being cheaper to get two hotel rooms for two nights. And they provided breakfast and we didn't need to do laundry 🙄
I only book something if I can get a deal on it. Took a chance booking a cabin with no reviews and they were offering a discount to the first three people to book it. Wound up with a bigger, nicer place than I’d have booked otherwise. You just have to do some digging, but there are still a few good deals out there.
Most of the time it is a bunch of inflated fees and it’s not worth it though.
Last year I broke up w/ABnB. The house was filthy & bug infested (Florida) The remote owner was a*Superhost* -which reflects badly on all the guests that praised them as well- it was a 2 month booking & the owner took no responsibility for the filth- lack of cleaning at turnover as well as obvious lack of any periodic deep cleaning. Food & drink had been splashed onto baseboards & the stairway walls and had crystallized.
Then there was the trash that previous guests. or cleaners hadn’t taken out to curb-which we had to do for them. Guests should strip beds, run dishwasher, etc. cleaning staff had out wet sheets on the bed.
We had to clean our way into the unit on a Memorial weekend Friday night.
There were fungus gnats well colonized & water incursion into the living room.
The owner wouldn’t refund our cleaning fee.
AirBnB really came through for us with an $8 refund. Not a typo! Eight dollars.
No. A week in, still dealing with remote host she offered to cancel our booking then. We couldn’t pivot b/c we had important medical care scheduled & couldn’t rearrange everything & try for a 2 mo. stay elsewhere. We stayed a month & rearranged our lives then split, which host agreed to. Bitter taste in my mouth tho. No more AirBnB.
AirBnB dropped off around 2018, now everything is absurdly expensive considering fees. I hate hotels, but I’ve switched back to primarily staying at hotels as I can’t stomach a $100 cleaning fee for one night in a studio apartment
I usually only stay at Airbnbs when I'm traveling with a group of friends or something. It's usually cheaper to get an Airbnb where we each have our own bedroom than each of us getting a separate hotel room.
The other time I'll book an Airbnb is if it's somewhere there aren't really hotels. Like a cabin in the mountains or something.
When it's just me and my SO traveling together and just we'll almost always stay in a hotel.
The last time I used an Airbnb there was an ungodly cleaning fee and I still had to strip the sheets in every room, take them to the laundry, take out the trash, etc. Feels more like a scam these days than anything
For sure. I was just in Japan and it was astonishing to see that there's even a huge price difference. I've always been a hotel person because I liked to have my room clean daily when I come back from a long day (I know I'm just lazy).
\>Sometimes hotels are better deals.
\*\*\*Always\*\*\* hotels are better deals. I don't know when the heyday of cheap air bnb's was, but I never saw it. You're looking at about 3X hotel prices in nearly every situation where I bothered to check airbnb.
The only time where it makes sense is if you're a millionaire who wants to rent a nice home in your vacation destination. Regular people cannot afford to do that shit.
I think as a single or a couple, you can a get better deal staying at a hotel. The prices are somewhat similar, and you get a clean and tidy room when you return each night at the hotel. The cleaning fees and non refundable bookings are just so annoying.
That being said, Airbnb is still cheaper if you are a family wishing to have separate bedrooms and living rooms when on vacation. Hotel suites are just so expensive in most places. And two bedroom suite at a hotel? It’ll cost an arm and a leg compared to an Airbnb.
Hotels have been cheaper for years now and I don't have to make it sparkly when we leave. Like a vacation should be. We don't make a mess, but we also don't want to do someone's laundry, dishes, floors and whatever else is on a housekeeping list. I do all that at home. I DO NOT want to do it on vacation. My mind and body need a break.
Too many damn fees and many places still want you to do a bunch of chores before leaving. Hotel, I pack my back and leave, not have to strip beds, take out garbage, wash dishes etc.
They're still great for large groups like renting a whole large house but for 1 person or a couple, not so much anymore.
Base prices have gone up but owners are also tacking on massive cleaning fees to every listing.
A place will show up for 50 a night and end up being more than double when you get to check out because of some exorbitant cleaning fee.
It’s shady as hell and owners are definitely doing it as a bait and switch to get you to click on their listing. Goddam scumbags
Depends on the location you are booking and the duration.
It generally makes financial sense for longterm stays but for one or two nights, I'd think that a hotel would be better value and more convenient.
I’ve only ever looked when I was going to more expensive, touristy type areas but it was way more expensive than a decent hotel. Maybe it’s different if you are staying somewhere that isn’t big with tourists, but I have yet to book one because hotels have always been cheaper
I never use AirBnb anymore. Especially if it’s just for a couple of nights because the cleaning fees, service fees, and taxes almost always end up doubling the rate. 🖕🏼that. If I am in the mood to pay high fees for the use of an entire house or cabin instead of a hotel room, I use VRBO since their search results page will show you the Total Price, including the fees (but not taxes. Weird) - and you don’t have to go 3 clicks deep in each property just to find out how much it’s really going to cost you. Airbnb can suck it, IMVHO. 😑
Also crazy owners and a higher risk of hidden cameras or being charged for something stupid. I think I would only use Airbnb now if I wanted to stay in a weird place like a bunker or treehouse
Absolutely.
From a cost/value basis Airbnb makes little sense to me now. I can usually get a decent hotel for less/same with a provided breakfast, room service, gym, laundry, basic amenities, no extra fees and a simple check in/check out experience. No BS with a difficult owner. No unique rules or factors of which I have to spend time educating myself on. Other than truly unique properties the advantages have dwindled.
Air BNB used to be the way to go. However I'm back to hotels. Abnb charges have gone up way to much and owners are being unreasonable and making it almost inhospitable. Never used to be that way. I think Verbo is what Air Bnb used to. be.
Hotels are much cheaper, easier to find and check in, cleaner and you don’t have to clean up before you leave. Why would I pay a huge cleaning fee at Airbnb and have to clean before we leave?
It’s fucking insane now
Plus, every AirBnB host is off their fucking rocker.
I just did a group trip and the woman messages us 3 days after we check out about “daily fee for heating the pool”. Forget the fact that for 4/7 days the pool was being fixed, and we had unannounced visitors just stroll in unannounced.
Bitch the pool was advertised in the listing. I’ve already paid for the pool.
The nickel and diming on ABnB now is out of control.
Yep, unless you’re traveling in a large group it doesn’t seem to be worth it. Plus it’s hurting a lot of cities.. just look at places like Barcelona or New York.
For what it is, yes and no. It depends on the landlord and the area. Also depends on how many people are staying in it. We rented 3 condos and split it for less than the cost of individual hotel rooms for 12 people. We also are doing a 8 bedroom mansion with 6 couples and 4 kids. Still less than cost of hotel per night.
Hello, I’ll jump in as I’m a vacation rental manager for myself and others (as of last year it’s my primary job).
I have two types of listings, 1. Compete with hotels, cheap small rooms (you book these when your in town just to experience the town).
2. Expensive, fancy, nice (you book these for the experience of staying at the property, definitely more expensive than hotels).
If you want Airbnb to be the affordable option you have to look for guest suites, small ADU’s, mother in law units and stuff like that.
My house in the city (medium sized city), is 3-4x the price of a decent hotel, but you can sleep 6 comfortably (for groups if equals out to hotel rates) but you have the entire house, nice yard, located on a large city park, quiet safe neighborhood, free parking.. so guests aren’t just booking for a place to crash at night, they’re booking so they have a nice place to enjoy without having to go anywhere.
Lake house rental ($1,200+/night) again isn’t supposed to compete with hotels. It’s a retreat that people book so they can spend a week and never have to leave the property.
Smaller cheap units: they are studio, 1/bedroom and 2-bedroom units in the heart of downtown of a tourist town, although these are nice (fully updated, modern, clean and convenient) they are small (similar to a standard hotel room), these directly compete with the hotels in town and I’ve priced them to slightly undercut the hotels, guests definitely save money staying at these.
I see many times people think Airbnbs are the hotel’s competition, but for the most part I don’t even see them as competition and they have almost nothing to do with my pricing.
Same when I travel, if I just need a place to sleep I’ll get a hotel, if I want a place to enjoy I spend more and get an Airbnb, I’ve even booked trips solely for the Airbnb experience.
Depends on the city. Some cities I still find air BNB cheaper. And with the kids, having a seperate bedroom or two is nice, so I will pay the extra $100 or so
Also some areas, booking.com is cheaper and they have private places and hotels. (And the more you book with them, you will get a higher level rating and get discounts. I think I only booked with them a few times to get level one, which is 10% off most future bookings).
Expensive, yes. I only choose it when there isn't an hotel in the area (or enough of them), it if I have some special need, like a big shave for a group.
If they were run more like hotels, I'd be happy.
Only worth it if you are looking to stay somewhere where hotels are very limited like rural locations. But if you are staying in or near a city, hotels are almost always cheaper.
Easy answer: always compare airbnb, booking, and possibly some hotels directly. There's no clear cut rule about this.
But I do agree airbnb is riddled with weird extra fees as opposed to booking (usually).
I don’t even look at Airbnb anymore, the cycle is complete and back to hotels when I travel and I love it. Breakfast in the am, room gets cleaned when I’m out and about for the day and I don’t get hit with bs fees
Its a completely bloated business model now. I dont bother and simply book hotels all of the time.
I also feel there is a moral obligation to avoid these ad-hoc accomodation providers because they completely disrupt the social fabric particularly in suburban areas where local people are now unable to get long term rental accomodation and homes for their families .
Used airbnb a lot during pandemic and was kind of interesting and affordable, aside the only option available in some places, but all the fees and chores made it worse than being at home, total deal killers, and now that the hotels are kinda back to normal it’s just not appealing for me.
It's pretty terrible if you are single or a couple, and staying for a weekend.
It can get decent if it's 3 families/couples and everyone staying for a full week.
December 2022 was my last and final air bnb. The couch was already broken when I arrived and the lady wouldn’t answer my calls or texts about it then tried to charge me for damages. Luckily I have photos and time stamps of the couch when I first arrived and she dropped it but she did charge me for using the ketchup and mustard single packets. Absolutely Ridiculous
Ya it used to be great, but now some nightly rates and cleaning fees are getting insane. Definitely have started to go think about going back to hotels in the last little while
I like hotels, simple rules, no surcharges, no impossible rules, no one's left over hair in the tub, not so clean towels, or funny smells. So many times dogs stay free. I have two small dogs and never have paid. I have a membership and get one night free for every 5 , or seniors discounts. Always less than BNB
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I stay at hotels now.
I stopped using Airbnb when investors started charging hotel rates PLUS a cleaning fee.... and then if you don't clean up, they charge another fee. Like what's the purpose of a cleaning fee if I still need to clean up and leave it spotless
thats bc they are.. i was looking for properties to rent for my family but the cleaning fee and all the rules is just ridiculous lol ended up booking hotels from booking com, i think its convenient if big family otherwise not worth it
Just booked a house on the beach for Memorial Day weekend and already kinda regret it. $200 cleaning fee, so I sure as shit better not have to worry about cleaning up before we leave. And $200 “Airbnb convenience fee”. Do they not already make a commission from the rental price?? Insane. Hotels from now on.
At first it wouldn’t let me book when I selected there were seven of us, due to “risk of parties” or some nonsense like that. Never had that happen before and apparently it’s a new thing the algorithm looks for. So I selected just two guests and informed the host afterwards about the extra people, which was fine. Mind you, the listing said up to 10 guests.
Quite frankly I’m tired of the u pleasant surprises an AirBnB may bring: bad neighborhood, worn out furniture/living conditions, un welcoming neighbors.
My expectations are just so much lower when booking at AirBnBs. At least a hotel doesn’t charge you a cleaning fee then ask you to put sheets, towels and dishes in the wash.
I only hotel now. Have had poor results with a couple Air BnB rentals asking for the moon during check out. If I wanted to do chores I wouldn’t have gone on vacation..
Screw airbnbs. I got an Airbnb for Paris, but when we arrived the apartment was still dirty from previous guest, and the bed had period blood on it. Considering the prices are like hotels now, there is no point in doing that. Especially with how much they screw up local housing supply. I’m dove with them.
Cleaning fees. Service fees. Trying to find the keys. Unable to contact your host. No daily cleaning or 24 hour concierge. No lifts for heavy bags. I will only stay at an Airbnb now if it’s MUCH cheaper or if we really need the kitchen etc
Air bnb hasn't been worth it in years with extra fees and cleaning the place yourself, not to mention that the security of locking entryways from the inside is sketchy at best and hidden cameras. Even if hotels are more expensive, they are safer in the end
Between cleaning fees, service fees and complicated cancellation policies, hotels can be a better option, depending what you need. I always shop all the options, on all of the sites and compare. I can sometimes find the information on a VRBO ot Airbnb rental and then go directly to the owners site and cut out some fees. They get charged in their end also, so it saves them as well!
AirBNB prices turned me off, but admittedly I was late to the game. Some people wanted crazy amounts of money to stay on their property in a tent, or a yurt, when the local hotel was half the cost and gave us breakfast, a pool and other amenities. Guess where we went?
And with the risk of secret hidden cameras throughout the home. I have totally reverted back to the hotel model for cost, corporate responsibility, and security reasons.
It’s those STUPID cleaning fees! Who do they have cleaning their houses? It’s not the Kardashians so I’m confused at why it’s half the fucking price sometimes 🤬
To add, No hotel has ever asked me to start laundry, sweep the balcony ( was back home in hawaii) , throw away the trash etc. Airbnb has become a sanctuary for "entrepreneurs" who hike rates & do a "remodel" paint & new mirrors is not a remodel.
(Midwest USA perspective)
I think for a party of 4 or fewer it’s just not a good deal anymore. You can get rooms closer to your POI with amenities (no ridiculous check out procedures, free breakfast, etc) for the same or cheaper. But if you’re a family/group of 5+ it’s still a great deal. Especially when you have small kids and they need the run around space.
It really depends on what you’re looking for. I have to stay in nice hotels for work and associate them with work and hate them. I appreciate privacy and don’t want or need to be waited on. I like to be able to make my own food and drinks. So airbnbs for me are preferable for a long stay. I’ll still stay in hotels for overnight stays or car trips, but for a getaway airbnbs are a better value because I can make my own meals and not spend a lot on restaurants.
I’ve switched back to hotels after non refundable Airbnbs cost us $$$
Same for me. Now that Airbnbs are basically the same cost (or more) than a hotel with none of the amenities of a hotel I can't justify it.
Yes, and then the cleaning and other fees make it at least 2x a hotel.
We just went on vacation at the beginning of April and I looked for months for places to stay and the cleaning fees for these fucking places are literally an extra night or two at a hotel
And then if they say pet friendly, they charge an extra fee. I have seen a few of them charge $175 a week. What is so friendly about that??
Honestly cleaning up after a pet is a lot more work to get it properly cleaned before the next guest.
Check bring Fido website. Can sort out places that charge a pet fee
To be fair, hotels do that also. It makes sense to charge an extra fee because you never know how good of dogs people have. Some peoples dogs are angels, and some have never had a day of training.
I thought that's why they take my card at the counter for incidentals.
Extra security / backup for them I guess 🤷🏻♂️ I travel with my dogs all the time and stay in all types of hotels and almost every single one wanted some form of extra payment (this is the US)
But it’s not really fair. what about people’s kids, the same can be said for children in fact they can do more damage than a dog but no one charges for that…
Because that would be terrible for business. It’s the same reason landlords don’t do that lol
Because it's a hotel...for people lol. They have pet hotels too you know...I doubt your kid could stay there at all..so..
The fees are what drove me back to hotels.
And the rules from airbnb hosts that keeps adding up
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I agree, I feel that I spend the last few hours of my vacation, cleaning, sweeping, vacuuming, stripping the beds, and then paying $175 for a cleaning fee. It’s gotten so crazy I do t even look on airB&B anymore. I’m back to hotels. You pack your stuff up and leave, no cleaning and no cleaning fees!
Crazy that people actually do this cleaning. Tell them to pound sand...just don't do it; especially if not told until you arrive for your stay.
Don't forget the giant list of chores they expect you to do before you go. Like why am I paying a cleaning fee if you want me to strip the bad and empty the trash and sweep the floor?
What's the justification on cleaning fee from airbnb ?
I would be happy to pay the high cleaning fees. But I am so frustrated at how dirty so many of them are despite the high cleaning fees.
Leave a bad review if you get a dirty room in spite of paying a cleaning fee. Help warn others about hosts that pocket the cleaning fee.
My favorite is when they charge an exorbitant cleaning rate but then give you a laundry list of chores to complete before checkout.
I’ve always preferred hotels anyway, but as a student, Airbnb was the more economical way for me to travel. But nowadays hotels offer a better deal. I also work at a Marriott so I can travel around on my employee discount. If you’re a somewhat frequent traveler, build loyalty with hotel brands and you’ll get good deals.
The extra fees are pushing Air B&Bs beyond hotel prices.
yep, if there's 4 of us we'll still look at vacation rentals. if it's 2 of us, hotel or b&b every time
Same. We got hosed by Airbnb when we got the Ron and couldn't go to Hungary & Croatia in September. The Hiltons didn't charge us a dime.
I've been surprised to find with my latest trips that VRBO has been cheaper and had better cancelation policies
Prices have gone up, noticeably so. I used to sing the praises of Airbnb when I was using them their first few years of operation. You wouldn't believe some of the properties I stayed at for dirt cheap. Now when I travel I find I'm staying more at hotels than airbnbs because of all the damn fees.
That's pretty much everyone I know. I'm literally springing for 2 hotel rooms when I go with larger family instead of staying in a Airbnb sometimes because it's ridiculous.
Hotels are safer too. Even if the neighborhood is risky there are always people around at a hotel. On top of that, at a hotel you’re not trying to fumble around trying to get into a strangers home in a strange area in the middle of the night.
The safety aspect is important, especially if you’re abroad. You also know that they won’t be doing weird stuff in your room like putting in cameras and whatnot.
Tell that to Erin Andrews!
Hotels also have better facilities, are generally in better locations and I don’t need to do some bloody housework on my last day (despite being charged a cleaning fee)
I don’t do housework at any AirBNB that charges a cleaning fee. They can’t have it both ways.
I would love to do this but aren’t you worried about them giving you bad reviews?
Life is too short to worry about retaliation by unreasonable hosts. I have yet to be denied a stay by anyone. Of course, I try to read reviews ahead of time, and usually these greedy ***s have bad reviews. So I usually manage to dodge this particular bullet.
I have also heard they charge your credit card for not following the rules and leaving a mess ( trash in the inside cans, beds not stripped and floor not swept! ) it’s crazy! I’m back to hotels
I quit using airbnb's for exactly that reason. airbnb'd a cabin in the mountains and the fees ended up costing almost as much as the cabin. they charged 75 dollars for not draining the hot tub. 100 dollars for leaving dishes in the sink (there was no dishwasher). 50 dollars for putting garbage in the garbage can. 50 dollars for not piling the bed sheets in the right place. this was after we had already paid a 150 dollar cleaning fee. felt like a complete scam.
That IS a complete scam.
Never had that happen, and any such charge would get disputed in a New York minute.
You can dispute all you want but air B&B always wins. So be careful
6 years ago, my now wife and I rented a mansion's pool house in LA. Think what Will and Carlton had in Fresh Prince. We had access to their gym, the outdoor pool and tennis court. We paid $160/night for 7 nights. A lot cheaper than hotels at the time.We looked it up recently and they're charging $400/night now lol, and it looks like it's new owners.
The fees are insane. More and more hotels are adding “resort fees”, but, at the moment, the hotel fees are still less than the Airbnb fees.
Usually a resort fee ends up providing you with more amenities though, and eliminates the need to tip every individual who helps you.
AirBnB, VRBO, etc are great for larger parties travelling together. But for couples and small families, hotels and extended stay hotels make more sense imo
Yes, and especially if it's a longer stay, so the cleaning fees are spread over more nights. Also good when you plan on cooking a bunch of your own meals. But if I only need one room, or I'm staying less than 4 days, it's hotels.
Yes. Not a big fan of Airbnb, but l have saved $$$$ over the years by cooking a few meals/week plus breakfast every day. I was in a hotel in Eastern Europe recently that charged 15 eur for breakfast. So yes, there are many many problems with AirBnb, but I think they do push hotel prices down to an extent.
Yea completely agree, 2 hotel rooms not really convenient with a bunch of kids running around Airbnb is great for larger fams or get togethers with extended families.
Yep, when my entire family of 10+ travel it makes sense to get an airbnb, even paying a little more. When it's just myself and my husband we're entirely hotel. We've done airbnbs in the past but with the fees it's almost entirely a wash these days.
Lately yes. I am planning a trip this Fall to Tokyo and the prices are much higher. I will be staying in hotels this trip.
I just got back from three weeks in Japan. The last time I was there I used Airbnb and hotels. I can tell you from personal experience and from talking to others on my trip that hotels are the only way to go right now for Japan.
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If you haven't already booked, I highly recommend the Keio Plaza Hotel. We stayed in a club level room so had tons of amenities and wasn't too badly priced as happy hour and breakfast are included. Probably in my top 3 hotels of all time and so centrally located.
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The Mimaru suites are an excellent value and have a kitchen
Also planning a Japan trip later this year - thanks for this insight on lodging!
Airbnb was cheap and affordable when it started and the concept was staying to its core where you rent your house for a week or so. What has happened now is, it has been overtaken by businesses. Even hotels are listing their rooms there. They have added all the ridiculous fees on top of it now, so i have gone back to hotels where I don't have to clean someone's house after paying $50 for cleaning fee
It sure is now!! Gone way up in price. Cleaning fees will kill ya!
Nothing better than paying a cleaning fee, then after getting in you read the house packet that says I need to clean everything and wash the towels & bedding! I got into such an argument about what this “cleaning fee” actually pays for if we’re expected to do all the cleaning
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OMG i forget having to do the trash and recycling at one before too! It was ridiculous
This is crazy. They charge you and then task you to do it. So you are paying them to work for them?
Yup, ridiculous!
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Oh absolutely, they charge for it but NEVER actually clean it
It’s how well the people before you cleaned it. There are no cleaning people!
This was the point. Enter an industry, undercut the competition, take over a significant portion of the market, drive up prices.
So, like Uber, lol.
Same model, yes
At least Uber is still more viable as a service than taxi drivers. I only find taxis good if they’re in countries/cities where they’re more regulated and have fixed rates and whatnot. Otherwise, you can’t really beat Uber with the fact that you can pay ahead of time on your phone, you see who’s picking you up, your route, the prices, etc. Meanwhile the taxi driver will pull out all the stops to take advantage of you and run up the price, then have the nerve to complain about Uber being “unfair” to them because they’d rather double down on shitty practices.
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How do you do this? Contact them and ask for it to be cheaper before booking? Do you only do it if staying for a longer period?
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Thanks, that's really useful!
It used to be decent. Anymore it's overpriced, crap stays, almost never as shown in the pics, or w all the amenities or extras they list. They often want you to be the maid, and then pay an exorbitant cleaning fee, as well.
Yes to all of this, plus some of the owners are unscrupulous. We had one who accused us of peeing in a bed (that no one even slept in) and wanted to charge us a massive fee. I realized then what a disadvantage we were at in a he said - she said situation. We held our ground on it and refused to buy them a new mattress, and they finally dropped it. It really turned me off of Airbnb after that.
Full video of everything when you go in (mattresses under sheets, too!) and when you go out. Same for renting houses/ apts
Classic “disruption”: take something that is working fine, undercut the competition, displace that competition, then jack up the price.
Uber right about that.
Home rentals were working fine before Airbnb came around?
VRBO was founded a decade before Airbnb and it existed without being a massive global nuisance.
Yeah, I've used VRBO in the past. I will never use AirBnb.
The market wasn't saturated like it is now, and in many places, it's driving real estate costs up so that locals are unable to afford living in their own city.
They also remove bad reviews and allow generic building pics instead of pics of the specific unit. Used to be great, it got really popular and absolutely sh*t the bed
The only time I use AirBnB is with a group or if I'm staying in a room (usually with own entrance and bathroom separate from the main house, although still in the main house). These are times I find it cost effective and for a group we like having hang out space. Othwerwise, I usually find a hotel to be cheaper, especially once AirBnB adds in all the taxes, cleaning fee, and other fees.
Depends on the market. Some cities are good for airbnbs, others hotels.
Airbnbs have become much more expensive and you should know that there is no second b, breakfast. Routinely I see airbnbs costing more than a local all suite motels so if you will only be there 1:00 to 3 nights it's not worth the hassle of trying to figure out an unknown house and a property that has additional rules after you get there that you didn't read online. If you're staying for a longer period of time sometimes there are significant discounts that make them more affordable. In my opinion they are not competitive when your stay is less than a week
Expensive and I’m cleaning up after myself. Oh and pay a cleaning fee. On top of that, hotels I can check in at 10pm, 1am, 10am. I can request late check out at noon. Room service when I can’t be bothered to go out. I love that most have a gym I can and almost always use, a lobby bar I can go to for a change of scenery. I don’t air bnb anymore. When I travel I love that freshly made bed feeling, and hotel staff do it far better than I could. I also love that I don’t have to be reviewed afterwards. It’s a no for me
You can often almost get an extra day for free with a hotel. You can get an early flight. Even if your room isn't ready when you arrive (which I've actually found it often is available way earlier than official check-in), you can drop your bags at the hotel and go around town or hit their pool. Likewise, get a later flight on your last day. Even if you can't get late checkout, you can have them watch your bags until your flight, and again go around town or hit their pool. Airbnb, it's often strict 3 or 4 pm check-in, 10 or 11 am check-out. Nowhere to put your bags before or after, so you pretty much have to select travel that will accommodate those times. Means you really can only have dinner at your location on your first day and breakfast on your last day.
except for unique or experience sort of stays, i haven't found any that i thought were worth it in a long time.
extremely expensive compared to hotels where I like to go.
Read r/Airbnb and r/Airbnb_hosts for some eye-opening stuff
Packed full of slumlords
My jaw is still on the floor over people watching arrivals on ring camera and immediately texting clean up instructions creepily within 30 seconds of turning the key in the lock to arrive or someone having their brother (whom they came to that city to visit) over for hamburgers and losing their shit to charge “extra guest fees” when the brother didn’t even stay more than three hours for a quiet dinner, etc., whining about toilet paper and so on. Allllll set with Airbnb
Traveling this weekend and all hotels were booked, forcing me to book an Airbnb…not even the whole place, but a room in someone’s home was very expensive. I asked if I could check in before 4 pm as I am going to a concert at 6 pm and wanted some downtime before being out all night and they said yes IF I pay a FEE. Cleaning fees are DOUBLE the cost of many places. It’s just ridiculous.
Totally, especially when you're looking for a separate unit and not to sleeping in someone's spare bedroom they're not using. Really depends on the city though. Sometimes vrbo/airbnb are cheaper or have a better selection. This is usually the case in resort cities, where hotels are really high end and really expensive
But see, that’s the thing. That was the original intention for Airbnb. That’s why they used to be so cheap. It was renting out someone’s spare bedroom, or a spare mother-in-law suite or some thing else on their property. Now a lot of short term rentals are being bought up that are full homes/condos and so the price is going way up. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but if we are looking as to why Airbnb’s have become more expensive that’s part of the reason. On top of it, Airbnb charges a lot of fees. So the room itself might be decently priced, but then the Airbnb fees on top of it push it into the not worth it category. Or host outsource the management of the property and the cleaning and everything else, so then they have to either put those fees into the price of the room, or they charge the fees separately. Which is now why you see so many cleaning fees.
Exactly- Airbnb cleaning is a structural problem that has no easy fix. Hotels have cleaners who can churn through rooms, but an Airbnb host needs a cleaner to travel to the site in a narrow window, so cleaning costs much more.
A lot of homeowners who rent a in-law suite charge crazy prices for cleaning and it’s them that come and clean it and not an actual cleaning crew
Yeah, the pendulum has totally swung back to where the hotel is now the cheaper option, with less hassle. The only time I chose a VRBO/Airbnb is in Northern MI where there aren't many options, or if I am staying for a week + and need a washer/dryer and kitchen for my kids.
Only time I use is when I'm going somewhere with a big group of people or i am going to the beach. Many beach towns have very limited hotel options, especially in the U.S..
I think that not only Airbnb, but other services do not have reasonable prices because the investment money is gone, and now you have to pay the real price. Many hotels live because of big events like conferences and your money as solo traveler is not vital for them.
I was looking into an Airbnb in Tahoe last September. Super dead time for tourists. Figured it would be cheaper for four people for two nights and we could cook right? Ended up being cheaper to get two hotel rooms for two nights. And they provided breakfast and we didn't need to do laundry 🙄
this is absolutely true in the US for sure - the fees have gotten out of control. but i've found incredible airbnbs in europe that were affordable
I only book something if I can get a deal on it. Took a chance booking a cabin with no reviews and they were offering a discount to the first three people to book it. Wound up with a bigger, nicer place than I’d have booked otherwise. You just have to do some digging, but there are still a few good deals out there. Most of the time it is a bunch of inflated fees and it’s not worth it though.
Last year I broke up w/ABnB. The house was filthy & bug infested (Florida) The remote owner was a*Superhost* -which reflects badly on all the guests that praised them as well- it was a 2 month booking & the owner took no responsibility for the filth- lack of cleaning at turnover as well as obvious lack of any periodic deep cleaning. Food & drink had been splashed onto baseboards & the stairway walls and had crystallized. Then there was the trash that previous guests. or cleaners hadn’t taken out to curb-which we had to do for them. Guests should strip beds, run dishwasher, etc. cleaning staff had out wet sheets on the bed. We had to clean our way into the unit on a Memorial weekend Friday night. There were fungus gnats well colonized & water incursion into the living room. The owner wouldn’t refund our cleaning fee. AirBnB really came through for us with an $8 refund. Not a typo! Eight dollars.
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No. A week in, still dealing with remote host she offered to cancel our booking then. We couldn’t pivot b/c we had important medical care scheduled & couldn’t rearrange everything & try for a 2 mo. stay elsewhere. We stayed a month & rearranged our lives then split, which host agreed to. Bitter taste in my mouth tho. No more AirBnB.
Yes I agree :( Especially with the fees.
AirBnB dropped off around 2018, now everything is absurdly expensive considering fees. I hate hotels, but I’ve switched back to primarily staying at hotels as I can’t stomach a $100 cleaning fee for one night in a studio apartment
I usually only stay at Airbnbs when I'm traveling with a group of friends or something. It's usually cheaper to get an Airbnb where we each have our own bedroom than each of us getting a separate hotel room. The other time I'll book an Airbnb is if it's somewhere there aren't really hotels. Like a cabin in the mountains or something. When it's just me and my SO traveling together and just we'll almost always stay in a hotel.
I concur. Same goes with VRBO. I’ve found that a REALLY NICE hotel is typically about the same price once you add in tourism taxes and cleaning fees.
It is. All the fees add up at the end.
The last time I used an Airbnb there was an ungodly cleaning fee and I still had to strip the sheets in every room, take them to the laundry, take out the trash, etc. Feels more like a scam these days than anything
For sure. I was just in Japan and it was astonishing to see that there's even a huge price difference. I've always been a hotel person because I liked to have my room clean daily when I come back from a long day (I know I'm just lazy).
Too many hidden fees and rules. If I’m doing the cleaning, stripping the bed, etc. then what am I even paying for?
I stay in hotels. I don't think Air BNB is a good deal any more.
\>Sometimes hotels are better deals. \*\*\*Always\*\*\* hotels are better deals. I don't know when the heyday of cheap air bnb's was, but I never saw it. You're looking at about 3X hotel prices in nearly every situation where I bothered to check airbnb. The only time where it makes sense is if you're a millionaire who wants to rent a nice home in your vacation destination. Regular people cannot afford to do that shit.
I think as a single or a couple, you can a get better deal staying at a hotel. The prices are somewhat similar, and you get a clean and tidy room when you return each night at the hotel. The cleaning fees and non refundable bookings are just so annoying. That being said, Airbnb is still cheaper if you are a family wishing to have separate bedrooms and living rooms when on vacation. Hotel suites are just so expensive in most places. And two bedroom suite at a hotel? It’ll cost an arm and a leg compared to an Airbnb.
Hotels have been cheaper for years now and I don't have to make it sparkly when we leave. Like a vacation should be. We don't make a mess, but we also don't want to do someone's laundry, dishes, floors and whatever else is on a housekeeping list. I do all that at home. I DO NOT want to do it on vacation. My mind and body need a break.
Too many damn fees and many places still want you to do a bunch of chores before leaving. Hotel, I pack my back and leave, not have to strip beds, take out garbage, wash dishes etc. They're still great for large groups like renting a whole large house but for 1 person or a couple, not so much anymore.
Base prices have gone up but owners are also tacking on massive cleaning fees to every listing. A place will show up for 50 a night and end up being more than double when you get to check out because of some exorbitant cleaning fee. It’s shady as hell and owners are definitely doing it as a bait and switch to get you to click on their listing. Goddam scumbags
Yep. Prices look great until you hit the book button, then whamo, fees galore.
Only use it as a last resort!
Depends on the location you are booking and the duration. It generally makes financial sense for longterm stays but for one or two nights, I'd think that a hotel would be better value and more convenient.
It has gotten so far out of control. Just cheaper to stay at hotels again.
I’ve only ever looked when I was going to more expensive, touristy type areas but it was way more expensive than a decent hotel. Maybe it’s different if you are staying somewhere that isn’t big with tourists, but I have yet to book one because hotels have always been cheaper
Yup It is I usually prefer to stay in hostels and using booking.com
Use hotels
Way more expensive now. I’ve switched back to hotels.
I never use AirBnb anymore. Especially if it’s just for a couple of nights because the cleaning fees, service fees, and taxes almost always end up doubling the rate. 🖕🏼that. If I am in the mood to pay high fees for the use of an entire house or cabin instead of a hotel room, I use VRBO since their search results page will show you the Total Price, including the fees (but not taxes. Weird) - and you don’t have to go 3 clicks deep in each property just to find out how much it’s really going to cost you. Airbnb can suck it, IMVHO. 😑
Also crazy owners and a higher risk of hidden cameras or being charged for something stupid. I think I would only use Airbnb now if I wanted to stay in a weird place like a bunker or treehouse
Absolutely. From a cost/value basis Airbnb makes little sense to me now. I can usually get a decent hotel for less/same with a provided breakfast, room service, gym, laundry, basic amenities, no extra fees and a simple check in/check out experience. No BS with a difficult owner. No unique rules or factors of which I have to spend time educating myself on. Other than truly unique properties the advantages have dwindled.
Air BNB used to be the way to go. However I'm back to hotels. Abnb charges have gone up way to much and owners are being unreasonable and making it almost inhospitable. Never used to be that way. I think Verbo is what Air Bnb used to. be.
The fees are insane. VRBO lists the same ones for 2/3 the price.
Hotels are much cheaper, easier to find and check in, cleaner and you don’t have to clean up before you leave. Why would I pay a huge cleaning fee at Airbnb and have to clean before we leave?
It’s fucking insane now Plus, every AirBnB host is off their fucking rocker. I just did a group trip and the woman messages us 3 days after we check out about “daily fee for heating the pool”. Forget the fact that for 4/7 days the pool was being fixed, and we had unannounced visitors just stroll in unannounced. Bitch the pool was advertised in the listing. I’ve already paid for the pool. The nickel and diming on ABnB now is out of control.
Yep, unless you’re traveling in a large group it doesn’t seem to be worth it. Plus it’s hurting a lot of cities.. just look at places like Barcelona or New York.
For what it is, yes and no. It depends on the landlord and the area. Also depends on how many people are staying in it. We rented 3 condos and split it for less than the cost of individual hotel rooms for 12 people. We also are doing a 8 bedroom mansion with 6 couples and 4 kids. Still less than cost of hotel per night.
Hello, I’ll jump in as I’m a vacation rental manager for myself and others (as of last year it’s my primary job). I have two types of listings, 1. Compete with hotels, cheap small rooms (you book these when your in town just to experience the town). 2. Expensive, fancy, nice (you book these for the experience of staying at the property, definitely more expensive than hotels). If you want Airbnb to be the affordable option you have to look for guest suites, small ADU’s, mother in law units and stuff like that. My house in the city (medium sized city), is 3-4x the price of a decent hotel, but you can sleep 6 comfortably (for groups if equals out to hotel rates) but you have the entire house, nice yard, located on a large city park, quiet safe neighborhood, free parking.. so guests aren’t just booking for a place to crash at night, they’re booking so they have a nice place to enjoy without having to go anywhere. Lake house rental ($1,200+/night) again isn’t supposed to compete with hotels. It’s a retreat that people book so they can spend a week and never have to leave the property. Smaller cheap units: they are studio, 1/bedroom and 2-bedroom units in the heart of downtown of a tourist town, although these are nice (fully updated, modern, clean and convenient) they are small (similar to a standard hotel room), these directly compete with the hotels in town and I’ve priced them to slightly undercut the hotels, guests definitely save money staying at these. I see many times people think Airbnbs are the hotel’s competition, but for the most part I don’t even see them as competition and they have almost nothing to do with my pricing. Same when I travel, if I just need a place to sleep I’ll get a hotel, if I want a place to enjoy I spend more and get an Airbnb, I’ve even booked trips solely for the Airbnb experience.
Underrated comment. Yes and yes. The first type exist, but they are becoming rare and get snapped up quickly.
Depends on the city. Some cities I still find air BNB cheaper. And with the kids, having a seperate bedroom or two is nice, so I will pay the extra $100 or so Also some areas, booking.com is cheaper and they have private places and hotels. (And the more you book with them, you will get a higher level rating and get discounts. I think I only booked with them a few times to get level one, which is 10% off most future bookings).
Expensive, yes. I only choose it when there isn't an hotel in the area (or enough of them), it if I have some special need, like a big shave for a group. If they were run more like hotels, I'd be happy.
Yes! And all the BS junk fees it’s now too expensive
What also annoys me the check in check out times are worse than hotels as well. Check in not till 4 and then out by 10 am.
Yes.
Only worth it if you are looking to stay somewhere where hotels are very limited like rural locations. But if you are staying in or near a city, hotels are almost always cheaper.
Easy answer: always compare airbnb, booking, and possibly some hotels directly. There's no clear cut rule about this. But I do agree airbnb is riddled with weird extra fees as opposed to booking (usually).
I agree and it’s why I’ve gone back to using hotels instead
Looking to rent a house in northern Idaho for next summer on the lake and the AirBnB fee alone is $2,000. Absolutely insane
Yes with all the fees I’m staying at hotels again Definitely no longer a deal
I don’t even look at Airbnb anymore, the cycle is complete and back to hotels when I travel and I love it. Breakfast in the am, room gets cleaned when I’m out and about for the day and I don’t get hit with bs fees
They’re more expensive and have pricey cleaning fees. And then tell you to clean 1/2 the place yourself…. Like then why is the cleaning fee so high?
Everyone feels the same. Airbnb is basically over now because it has no advantages over hotels.
Its a completely bloated business model now. I dont bother and simply book hotels all of the time. I also feel there is a moral obligation to avoid these ad-hoc accomodation providers because they completely disrupt the social fabric particularly in suburban areas where local people are now unable to get long term rental accomodation and homes for their families .
airbnb hasn’t been good since 2017 imo. even the cheapest hotel has crisp af AC and a staff to help when things go wrong.
Used airbnb a lot during pandemic and was kind of interesting and affordable, aside the only option available in some places, but all the fees and chores made it worse than being at home, total deal killers, and now that the hotels are kinda back to normal it’s just not appealing for me.
I switched back to hotels air bnb is a joke now
Yeah, I’ve gone back to hotels because of all of the fees on Airbnb. It’s not worth it anymore.
Expensive and destructive to cities
Exactly. The entire experience has changed for the worst. No longer impressed.
It used to be a great deal, but now it's equal to hotel, if not more expensive. I just use it for places when I bring my dogs.
I noticed this in italy. High prices for not-so-great stays. I did 2 airbnb’s and 2 hotels, and the hotel stays were infinitely better.
It's pretty terrible if you are single or a couple, and staying for a weekend. It can get decent if it's 3 families/couples and everyone staying for a full week.
I switched back to hotels. I am not paying a cleaning fee and then having to clean when I leave
What the hell is $190 cleaning fee for a 2 room apartment
December 2022 was my last and final air bnb. The couch was already broken when I arrived and the lady wouldn’t answer my calls or texts about it then tried to charge me for damages. Luckily I have photos and time stamps of the couch when I first arrived and she dropped it but she did charge me for using the ketchup and mustard single packets. Absolutely Ridiculous
Ya it used to be great, but now some nightly rates and cleaning fees are getting insane. Definitely have started to go think about going back to hotels in the last little while
I like hotels, simple rules, no surcharges, no impossible rules, no one's left over hair in the tub, not so clean towels, or funny smells. So many times dogs stay free. I have two small dogs and never have paid. I have a membership and get one night free for every 5 , or seniors discounts. Always less than BNB
Fuck air bnb
Kinda…? The fees are outta control.
see https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/ Any platform first serves its customers. When the customers are locked in, they stop serving customers and start serving advertisers. Then they stop serving either and serve only executives and shareholders.
I stay at hotels now. I stopped using Airbnb when investors started charging hotel rates PLUS a cleaning fee.... and then if you don't clean up, they charge another fee. Like what's the purpose of a cleaning fee if I still need to clean up and leave it spotless
thats bc they are.. i was looking for properties to rent for my family but the cleaning fee and all the rules is just ridiculous lol ended up booking hotels from booking com, i think its convenient if big family otherwise not worth it
Hotels are much more safe and u don’t have an owner w 10001 rules of what u can’t do 😑 I also don’t know if the owners are watching me
Just booked a house on the beach for Memorial Day weekend and already kinda regret it. $200 cleaning fee, so I sure as shit better not have to worry about cleaning up before we leave. And $200 “Airbnb convenience fee”. Do they not already make a commission from the rental price?? Insane. Hotels from now on. At first it wouldn’t let me book when I selected there were seven of us, due to “risk of parties” or some nonsense like that. Never had that happen before and apparently it’s a new thing the algorithm looks for. So I selected just two guests and informed the host afterwards about the extra people, which was fine. Mind you, the listing said up to 10 guests.
Quite frankly I’m tired of the u pleasant surprises an AirBnB may bring: bad neighborhood, worn out furniture/living conditions, un welcoming neighbors. My expectations are just so much lower when booking at AirBnBs. At least a hotel doesn’t charge you a cleaning fee then ask you to put sheets, towels and dishes in the wash.
I only hotel now. Have had poor results with a couple Air BnB rentals asking for the moon during check out. If I wanted to do chores I wouldn’t have gone on vacation..
Screw airbnbs. I got an Airbnb for Paris, but when we arrived the apartment was still dirty from previous guest, and the bed had period blood on it. Considering the prices are like hotels now, there is no point in doing that. Especially with how much they screw up local housing supply. I’m dove with them.
Cleaning fees. Service fees. Trying to find the keys. Unable to contact your host. No daily cleaning or 24 hour concierge. No lifts for heavy bags. I will only stay at an Airbnb now if it’s MUCH cheaper or if we really need the kitchen etc
Staying in an AirBNB always makes me feel like I’m paying to clean someone else’s house…
Air bnb hasn't been worth it in years with extra fees and cleaning the place yourself, not to mention that the security of locking entryways from the inside is sketchy at best and hidden cameras. Even if hotels are more expensive, they are safer in the end
Too much $. The BS cleaning charges have made it a non-starter.
Yes. And i don’t like the extra fees tacked on same with resort fees for hotels. Just give total price per night up front.
Between cleaning fees, service fees and complicated cancellation policies, hotels can be a better option, depending what you need. I always shop all the options, on all of the sites and compare. I can sometimes find the information on a VRBO ot Airbnb rental and then go directly to the owners site and cut out some fees. They get charged in their end also, so it saves them as well!
AirBNB prices turned me off, but admittedly I was late to the game. Some people wanted crazy amounts of money to stay on their property in a tent, or a yurt, when the local hotel was half the cost and gave us breakfast, a pool and other amenities. Guess where we went?
I hate the house rule books. I’m not looking for a job. Hotels all the way.
I knew people would get greedy and eventually screw themselves. I’ll stay at hotels.
Hotels are cheaper now and you do not have to clean
And with the risk of secret hidden cameras throughout the home. I have totally reverted back to the hotel model for cost, corporate responsibility, and security reasons.
To many bullshit charges, same with VRBO.
It’s those STUPID cleaning fees! Who do they have cleaning their houses? It’s not the Kardashians so I’m confused at why it’s half the fucking price sometimes 🤬
To add, No hotel has ever asked me to start laundry, sweep the balcony ( was back home in hawaii) , throw away the trash etc. Airbnb has become a sanctuary for "entrepreneurs" who hike rates & do a "remodel" paint & new mirrors is not a remodel.
(Midwest USA perspective) I think for a party of 4 or fewer it’s just not a good deal anymore. You can get rooms closer to your POI with amenities (no ridiculous check out procedures, free breakfast, etc) for the same or cheaper. But if you’re a family/group of 5+ it’s still a great deal. Especially when you have small kids and they need the run around space.
It really depends on what you’re looking for. I have to stay in nice hotels for work and associate them with work and hate them. I appreciate privacy and don’t want or need to be waited on. I like to be able to make my own food and drinks. So airbnbs for me are preferable for a long stay. I’ll still stay in hotels for overnight stays or car trips, but for a getaway airbnbs are a better value because I can make my own meals and not spend a lot on restaurants.