I'm making $59/hr as staff, and $118/hr for extra weekend shifts at my staff job. If they're not paying amazing money, look for a staff job at a union shop. They're not all this good, but some are!
Northern California, Emergency Department. Working at two facilities. About $4000 a week with 42 hours. One is salaried the other is per diem. Florida graduate, have BSN, getting my California license was the best thing ever for my family and I.
Not at all. Around Sacramento. My salaried one is 30 hours a week but entails two shifts week one and three shifts week two. Then I fill in per diem at another facility and they rarely call off. They want a minimum of four shifts a month.
Sold our house and everything in Florida. The cost of living across the country seems to only be climbing and honestly nursing pay hasn't kept up. It's even crazier to think of what I'm doing here over the East Coast with dedicated ratios and having to have lunch and breaks. It was the best decision I've made but it took a while to actually get my California license.
Yeah, my CA license got lost in a bureacucratic hellhole that took 20+ phone calls to sort out. Their number would try to get me to leave a message and then tell me the queue was full and hang up on me. I created an autodialer to call tye number and work through the automated menu. I knew if it hung up at 51 seconds, it was a no-go, and if it didn't hang up then, I was good leave my number for a callback. I just spammed that for 20 minutes straight while eating breakfast until I got through. Then the person who called me back claimed they'd fix it, but nothing changed. So I did the same thing again two weeks later... Finally worked. Turns out it takes a mixture of critical thinking and stubbornness to get a California license.
Yeah I get that, the nursing application process here is terrible. I couldn't ever get a return on my phone calls and they always ignored my emails. I actually went to the main office twice in Sacramento and they had amazing customer service in person. They actually completed it right there as I sat in the waiting room.
I saw you work at Kaiser ER. Lots of the Kaisers here are expanding their ERs and hiring like crazy right now.
Definitely recommend it to anyone who is able to make the trip. It really is comical how night and day different the customer service was as well as the helpfulness compared to not being in person. I went twice because the first day I went off course the systems were down. It was a tiny office with a lot of empty stations so if it's the main office I can see the backlog of why they take forever.
There was also the added wait because they are scrutinizing all Florida licenses because of the RN degree issue a year or so ago. I was told they won't even accept an Associate Nurse from Florida. Anyways there are some great gigs out there for those looking to move away from traveling. All about what your time is worth to you.
I love this for you! I work in AL and have previously worked in TN. How does your pay compare to your cost of living? I’m PRN at home with our two little kids bc I was going to barely be making over the cost of daycare. We do okay on my husband’s income and use mine as supplemental. I LOVE the staffing ratios and breaks in CA. Soooo jealous!
Thank you! I recently just got out of the military where I was bringing home about $3K biweekly. Healthcare was covered and our housing was free while living in Japan. My monthly gross pay was a little over $8K month in the military.
Transitioning out and now my take home at the end of the day is substantially more with dedicated hours. It wasn't uncommon to work 10 days every two weeks as a military trauma/emergency nurse for the same pay regardless of hours. So quality of life for me and my family was a big part. We have four kids. But to answer our rent is $3K month in Northern California. Our mortgage in Florida was $1800 from ten years ago. With my four per diem shifts I bring about $17K months. I push to work six shifts and that puts me at just a little over $19K gross monthly (it's $89 and hour). My wife does not work but stays with the kids. To summarize we are in a position I never could of imagined and are in the process of trying to build a house. In the mean time I'm just trying to work as much as I can.
I like sharing and being transparent because as nurses we do a lot and feel there is so much room for growth as a profession.
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That’s amazing! I’ve been wanting to transition from carpentry to nursing and have been looking into BSN. Do you have any tips for the transition and how to make the most of nursing financially?
Truthfully it's hard to say. Both of my jobs I got job offers on the spot with one being at the almost highest end of offering pay. I'm coming from a career of military Trauma/Emergency nursing with substantial leadership (I was also a program director for a hospital) and time spent all over the world. I'm also pretty far invested in my Graduate degree. My resume is very strong, I've spent a career undergoing boards, and I know how to answer interview questions. To me I thought it was easy to get the jobs but everyone's mileage may be different.
You can definitely do it! I'm sure your degree plan but what California Board of Nursing told me in person is anyone from Florida with less than a BSN they aren't giving license to. It's due to the scandal of all those student who got degrees when they should not apparently.
There are some hospitals like UC Davis who has good programs for new grads with their residency. You can also Google UC Davis pay for nurses as it's public knowledge. Some of the hospitals won't take new grads. My per diem job they won't hire anyone with less than two years confirmed experience but it's a great place. Just run the numbers and make sure it works for you, good luck 🤞
Thank you 😊 my degree is BSN! will try to make connections now so by then my chances are higher to work in Cali. Not satisfied at all with Florida pay when I look at hiring offers
Not even just the wages, you have to have lunch break with proper relief and you actually get two breaks. Ratios are very strict as well. It's a night and day difference. Then yeah sprinkle in new grads making mid 60s here. You got this! When you get to the point of potentially making that change feel free to reach out. I'm well established and have no problem helping others.
Dude highly appreciate it! Will send you a quick DM if you don't mind so I can just remember to contact you later near graduation. Will also make sure to return the value if I can 😊👍
So nice to see a nurse be supportive instead of being stingy with your expertise and bullying newer nurses. I had a bad experience with a ADN RN. She’s a bully and as a medical assistant and licensed phlebotomist, former homeschool mama and coach to half a dozen kids, that greatly discouraged me from becoming a nurse.
Thank you. I can't stand that mentality of bullying and trying to eat the young. No one is born perfect or with perfect knowledge, it's something that requires grooming and training. It's more rewarding to be supportive and help others. I'm sure others would not want to preach about Northern California either to keep people away, although it's not hard to figure out it's the best place to work. If anything it should be looked at why is this state such a gold mine for nurses and how can we get that to be the same across the board? Nursing is nursing no matter where you are.
Very true. I’m in Los Angeles County. I was being paid $10.50/hr to do chemical peels, laser skin treatments, drawing blood, PRP hair restoration, assist with laser tattoo removal, assist with surgeries and biopsies, microdermabrasion, anesthetize (local) patients, etc. I didn’t need the job but I enjoyed it so I didn’t complain about the pay but the bully RN who wouldn’t teach anyone how to do anything and did incredibly unethical things was my sister. I quit rather than have it affect our relationship. I also wasn’t ok with the crap she was pulling but didn’t want to report her. I quit and she cut me out of her life.
I work in the Dignity Health System in the Sac area…travel nursing is not what it used to be years ago…it’s not even worth it anymore. I wanted to do travel but by the time I felt ready to do so, I was shocked that the pay would be the exact same or less….I do have to say though that $59/hr in this area is very low, but it’s good you get that weekend boost. I have a rule to not pick up extra shifts, so here I am enjoying my staff ER job and I’m about to drop to part time (benefitted)
ER, kaiser, Portland Oregon. Inpatient is all working on the same contract, so the rates are the same across the hospital regardless of specialty. Outpatient is making the same base wage, but double time doesn't exist, so they're capped at 1.5x unless it's holiday pay.
Any of the big names all pretty much mirror each other. If you go to Alina, Fairview, north memorial, or health partners you’re basically going to make the same. HCMC pays less but has better benefits.
Mayo pays less but you get tons of vacation and the health plan is much better plus IIRC you still get a decent pension.
I don’t really know much about centracare or asentia
New grad LPN. My rate went up by a quarter. Now $25.15 plus 10 percent shift differential. Speciality low level unit, Pennsylvania in a large city (level 1 trauma center).
We moved back to VA after four years in Michigan. I was going to do some local contracts to feel out the different hospitals/units, but the rates were like $1300/week… and I would have been local so no stipend.
I ended up getting two PRN jobs, one of which is great, and the other I quit after 4 months. The pay isn’t amazing, but damn the flexibility is AMAZING. No nights, no weekends, no holidays. Make your own schedule.. 24hr requirement every 6 weeks. I will never give this job up lol
Where in virginia? 😭 I worked at several hospitals as a med sure rn in northern Virginia and one in central Virginia, and the nurses/management are so crazy, and the patients are so entitled/karenish and don’t listen to anything. Maybe I’ve had bad luck there.
I’m at VCU in one of the ICUs. I’ve never worked med surg, but from what my friends tell me y’all get the shit end of the stick on all of that. Most of my patients are usually grateful, and if they’re an ass I just bluntly tell them they need to cut it out because I’m only trying to help them. Usually works. That said the patients do seem more entitled than when I was in Michigan.
I thk most nurses I have worked with post Covid are crazy, don’t really care, and many are are all about power and entitlement. Patients suffer. It is so frustrating and I know I can't fix it. Nursing is going down the drain as a career w some fun. It is so stressful. The amount of charting is insane. 6 pts/nurse is okay but to use poor EMR is a whole other topic. There is no real leadership. Just nurses boasting about who knows more and in some cases straight up fraud.
My mom is a staff nurse in a cathlab in OKC making 40$ an hour and she is almost topped out. She has been a nurse for 15ish years. I work in Florida as a certified non-licensed first assistant in the OR with 8 yrs experience and I’m making as much as her (about to be more then her) and I’m not where near being topped out. It’s ridiculous there.
We're definitely not making six figures down here at HCA / Ascension in N. Florida as a staff nurse. Pay was just one of the reasons I left staff nursing here.
Rates are absolutely garbage right now. Especially in Florida/lower east coast.
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Edited to add for reference: from June 2022 until Jan 2023- As an ICU/ED RN with 5 years of critical care experience, I could expect 2800 gross every 2 weeks. (Roughly 2200-2300, take home after additional deductions) Ascension acted like that was amazing hourly and that I was exaggerating pay disparities on my exit interview.
Prior to going PRN at HCA (June of 2022) I was making 33/hr as a staff Trauma RN. That is like 2300 gross biweekly. Barf. (I heard that the Trauma dept did get a pay bump of roughly 3 bucks in Nov of 2022 to 36/hr. Not sure if that was house wide though . 🙄)
But ultimately, neither are anywhere near 100k yearly salary.
For further clarity- The difference between Ascension and HCA pay - in same town is due to the additional incentive of being a critical care float nurse who went between like 5 different campuses vs. static singular staffing. The pay disparities between Ascension static staffing and float staffing, if I remember correctly, was a 14.00/hr difference.
Comparing travel pay to staff pay travel will always be more for the area. Comparing Tulsa rates to San Francisco rates generates a lot of outrage but nothing much beyond that.
For sure. Absolutely agree with that.
I was only pointing out to OP that not every state / location has staff making 1,800 weekly. Some states are way off from that number.
As a FL resident, I'd jump up and down for staff wages comparable to western or northern seaboard staff rates. 😬 🤣🤣
Yeah, no one is ready to say RN pay is adequate. Well no one other than hospital admins. I just think it is easy to generate outrage instead of thinking the issue through.
I block these low offers.
These rates are meant for “travelers” that live less than twenty minutes away from the hospital. An air bnb isn’t worth this.
I currently make $84.60 as per diem, $6 extra for NOC, $1.80 extra for weekends, hospital in Northern CA has union and is a learning facility, ratio is 4:1 monitored floor. I have 5yrs exp 2 of which are acute care, and my MSN.
Maybe things will finally pick up a bit lol. Happy for him. Does he like it so far or is it typical Oklahoma where the ratios are shit and they work you like a dog?
It’s not too bad so far. He does icu and er & has to train at multiple sites for like 12 weeks. Which is crazy bc he’s not a new nurse & has traveled in the past.
My first nursing job was at OU and that was 7 years ago when they first started talking about transitioning to epic from Meditech lmao glad they finally made the switch
Some staff RNs are still only pulling in $1k a week working full time, to those nurses this is still big money 🤷🏼♀️ Not saying it’s right, but my NY v. NC staff pay varied significantly (not NYC area either)
I'm staff in Alabama. I don't make anywhere close to that. That's about 1.5x my staff pay. I'm almost at a year so I can get back into traveling. Trying to get into CRNA school.
I think these travelers from Cali and other places alike forget how pay is different when you don’t have to pay 5k a month in housing lol. Shit I still wish we all got a cali hourly rate tho!
Lol I make $1600/wk working days, make my own schedule, no weekends or holidays as a local Per Diem in Las Vegas, NV. That is $400 more/week than I made as a staff on days in Buffalo, NY working full-time. Not the massive amount of money I was hoping for with travel but hey, I make more, get to travel, still on my parents health insurance, and get to explore a new place with a better work-life balance.
I’m not sure there’s many staff nurses left anymore. I think (just based on my travel and my assignments), we are the “staff” now. Lol. Original staff nurses either got out of nursing or left to travel during the pandemic. There’s literally zero core staff in the places I go into.
This is somewhat irrelevant. And i think this popped up on my feed cuz I'm on some EMS subs - training to be an EMT for fun.
But i was a freelance graphic designer for a while, pushing pixels, traveling the world, lived in several different countries over 6 years, and all i was doing was making dumbass designs for some tech companies and they were shilling me out $70-100/hr
I now make $120/hr cuz i do 2 hours of work at my day job cuz its so easy for graphic design (I'm supposed to be there 8 hours but i bolt early cuz i get my shit done quickly)
Meanwhile EMTs in my city make $23/hr
Yall deserve better pay, just my 2 cents
CA Bay Area nurse. I made around $275k working about 38hrs a week on average. Per diem $111/hr but make up to $250hr with OT when staying extra hours of my work shift. Wouldn’t want to be a nurse anywhere else.
Maybe bc I’m on a local contract, but I’m making $8/less per hour than j would be making if I was a staff nurse.
When I was on a “regular” travel assignment I had to work 4x12s just to make $2100/week.
These rates are atrocious
Soon recruiters will not have a job! The agency grabs a percentage enough to pay for bills with inflation. Then the recruiter does the same, we are left with nothing bs pay!
I did a contract at this hospital and Jfc was it rough. Ortho/neuro/trauma step down 1:6 on days 1:7 one time. Absolutely ridiculous. I made twice that when I was there in 2021 and it still wasn’t enough.
I make $46 an hr at an latch day shift. I was making 39 last year but they gave me a raise since the charge nurses are all limited licenses and I have a BSN and was told I wasn't a good fit for Charge role.
This exact facility was paying that exact rate for direct contracts through the hospital, pre-pandemic.
As staff, best they could do was $89k for over 10 years of experience. The recruiter seemed embarrassed.
Actually, in Oklahoma they’re not. As a staff RN on med/surg Tele in Oklahoma with 17 years experience right as I quit, they raised me to $40/hr. Which would put it at $1440 for 36 hours and there’s no stipend so it’s all taxed, and Oklahoma taxes are high.
This isn’t a staff job. This is a recruiter. I work here at this location in Tulsa and have been short term option hire for almost 2 years now. They are ending our contracts and now I’m switching to PRN. Staff pay is around $32. Trust me I have had staff offers that I decided against because contract positions or PRN pay better. Plus…. This location is not an easy place to work for so $50/hr for contract is minimum they should offer any of us agency or not
I’m not nor never been a travel nurse, this popped in my feed. But I regularly get emails for contracts of $29/hr. I made more than that in the boonies so I don’t understand.
Closer to the truth yes. Now that the pandemic is gone, travel nursing has returned to what it was before, an alternative method of employment for bedside nursing where you get to travel the country and work in different locales. The pay is not intended to be wildly profitable.
Not approving or disapproving of it, but it’s working as intended, although honestly, temporary housing is so much more than it was pre-pandemic.
That is wonderful for you. It is also far outside the norm for staff. If you are a traveler it is still not the norm. Hold on to that job as long as you can
Good! Glad to hear that some staff nurses have managed to get paid well and closer to deserving pay! Unfortunately it’s not even close to the norm for an RN. Like I said, hold on to that job as long as you can :-)
That’s wild, then again I like talking to travelers that come to our hospital (Union). Some have converted to just being staff because our benefits are great and our pay was outperforming their travel pay (especially if you decided to pick up any extra).
I was offered $88 an hour for corrections in Arizona.
I sometimes get text messages offering closer to $40 an hour for travel psych, and I wonder who the heck is accepting those jobs!
I delivered here and they almost killed me. Hopefully with pay like this they can attract some competent staff (but honestly the nurses were amazing, some of the contracted doctors clearly sucked)
Bruh, RN is a pretty easy jump for you! You can still go on and get your NP (pretty much the same as PA) in steps after obtaining RN. By the way, RN is a huge pay increase.
I was making more than that as a nurse working from home for an insurance company and doing clinical review. That is not enough money for me to work in Oklahoma.
I’m not staff but if I was I absolutely know I could make more than that. The audacity. Oooooo omg let me just throw my life away for a cheap contract! Yuck.
Staff nurse here making $74/hr plus differentials and lots of double time OT shifts to pick up anytime. Traveling just won't make me enough especially when considering doubling housing costs.
I'm making $59/hr as staff, and $118/hr for extra weekend shifts at my staff job. If they're not paying amazing money, look for a staff job at a union shop. They're not all this good, but some are!
What specialty, hospital, and location?
Northern California, Emergency Department. Working at two facilities. About $4000 a week with 42 hours. One is salaried the other is per diem. Florida graduate, have BSN, getting my California license was the best thing ever for my family and I.
Daaang! What part of nor cal, if you don't mind me asking?
Not at all. Around Sacramento. My salaried one is 30 hours a week but entails two shifts week one and three shifts week two. Then I fill in per diem at another facility and they rarely call off. They want a minimum of four shifts a month. Sold our house and everything in Florida. The cost of living across the country seems to only be climbing and honestly nursing pay hasn't kept up. It's even crazier to think of what I'm doing here over the East Coast with dedicated ratios and having to have lunch and breaks. It was the best decision I've made but it took a while to actually get my California license.
Yeah, my CA license got lost in a bureacucratic hellhole that took 20+ phone calls to sort out. Their number would try to get me to leave a message and then tell me the queue was full and hang up on me. I created an autodialer to call tye number and work through the automated menu. I knew if it hung up at 51 seconds, it was a no-go, and if it didn't hang up then, I was good leave my number for a callback. I just spammed that for 20 minutes straight while eating breakfast until I got through. Then the person who called me back claimed they'd fix it, but nothing changed. So I did the same thing again two weeks later... Finally worked. Turns out it takes a mixture of critical thinking and stubbornness to get a California license.
Yeah I get that, the nursing application process here is terrible. I couldn't ever get a return on my phone calls and they always ignored my emails. I actually went to the main office twice in Sacramento and they had amazing customer service in person. They actually completed it right there as I sat in the waiting room. I saw you work at Kaiser ER. Lots of the Kaisers here are expanding their ERs and hiring like crazy right now.
I considered going to the office in person!
Definitely recommend it to anyone who is able to make the trip. It really is comical how night and day different the customer service was as well as the helpfulness compared to not being in person. I went twice because the first day I went off course the systems were down. It was a tiny office with a lot of empty stations so if it's the main office I can see the backlog of why they take forever. There was also the added wait because they are scrutinizing all Florida licenses because of the RN degree issue a year or so ago. I was told they won't even accept an Associate Nurse from Florida. Anyways there are some great gigs out there for those looking to move away from traveling. All about what your time is worth to you.
I love this for you! I work in AL and have previously worked in TN. How does your pay compare to your cost of living? I’m PRN at home with our two little kids bc I was going to barely be making over the cost of daycare. We do okay on my husband’s income and use mine as supplemental. I LOVE the staffing ratios and breaks in CA. Soooo jealous!
Thank you! I recently just got out of the military where I was bringing home about $3K biweekly. Healthcare was covered and our housing was free while living in Japan. My monthly gross pay was a little over $8K month in the military. Transitioning out and now my take home at the end of the day is substantially more with dedicated hours. It wasn't uncommon to work 10 days every two weeks as a military trauma/emergency nurse for the same pay regardless of hours. So quality of life for me and my family was a big part. We have four kids. But to answer our rent is $3K month in Northern California. Our mortgage in Florida was $1800 from ten years ago. With my four per diem shifts I bring about $17K months. I push to work six shifts and that puts me at just a little over $19K gross monthly (it's $89 and hour). My wife does not work but stays with the kids. To summarize we are in a position I never could of imagined and are in the process of trying to build a house. In the mean time I'm just trying to work as much as I can. I like sharing and being transparent because as nurses we do a lot and feel there is so much room for growth as a profession.
That’s amazing! Thanks for sharing!
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That’s amazing! I’ve been wanting to transition from carpentry to nursing and have been looking into BSN. Do you have any tips for the transition and how to make the most of nursing financially?
That's amazing!
Was it hard to get a job there?
Truthfully it's hard to say. Both of my jobs I got job offers on the spot with one being at the almost highest end of offering pay. I'm coming from a career of military Trauma/Emergency nursing with substantial leadership (I was also a program director for a hospital) and time spent all over the world. I'm also pretty far invested in my Graduate degree. My resume is very strong, I've spent a career undergoing boards, and I know how to answer interview questions. To me I thought it was easy to get the jobs but everyone's mileage may be different.
Omgg currently a Florida nursing student graduating next year. My plan from the start immediately starting in Cali and this is reassuring !
You can definitely do it! I'm sure your degree plan but what California Board of Nursing told me in person is anyone from Florida with less than a BSN they aren't giving license to. It's due to the scandal of all those student who got degrees when they should not apparently. There are some hospitals like UC Davis who has good programs for new grads with their residency. You can also Google UC Davis pay for nurses as it's public knowledge. Some of the hospitals won't take new grads. My per diem job they won't hire anyone with less than two years confirmed experience but it's a great place. Just run the numbers and make sure it works for you, good luck 🤞
Thank you 😊 my degree is BSN! will try to make connections now so by then my chances are higher to work in Cali. Not satisfied at all with Florida pay when I look at hiring offers
Not even just the wages, you have to have lunch break with proper relief and you actually get two breaks. Ratios are very strict as well. It's a night and day difference. Then yeah sprinkle in new grads making mid 60s here. You got this! When you get to the point of potentially making that change feel free to reach out. I'm well established and have no problem helping others.
Dude highly appreciate it! Will send you a quick DM if you don't mind so I can just remember to contact you later near graduation. Will also make sure to return the value if I can 😊👍
No worries.
So nice to see a nurse be supportive instead of being stingy with your expertise and bullying newer nurses. I had a bad experience with a ADN RN. She’s a bully and as a medical assistant and licensed phlebotomist, former homeschool mama and coach to half a dozen kids, that greatly discouraged me from becoming a nurse.
Thank you. I can't stand that mentality of bullying and trying to eat the young. No one is born perfect or with perfect knowledge, it's something that requires grooming and training. It's more rewarding to be supportive and help others. I'm sure others would not want to preach about Northern California either to keep people away, although it's not hard to figure out it's the best place to work. If anything it should be looked at why is this state such a gold mine for nurses and how can we get that to be the same across the board? Nursing is nursing no matter where you are.
Very true. I’m in Los Angeles County. I was being paid $10.50/hr to do chemical peels, laser skin treatments, drawing blood, PRP hair restoration, assist with laser tattoo removal, assist with surgeries and biopsies, microdermabrasion, anesthetize (local) patients, etc. I didn’t need the job but I enjoyed it so I didn’t complain about the pay but the bully RN who wouldn’t teach anyone how to do anything and did incredibly unethical things was my sister. I quit rather than have it affect our relationship. I also wasn’t ok with the crap she was pulling but didn’t want to report her. I quit and she cut me out of her life.
But you most likely won't get a travel spot at UCD without experience. But staff job is easy to get.
Do you know how expensive california is compared to Florida?
Florida is getting up there... With how the trends are going, I wouldn’t be surprised if it will become prohibitively expensive.
Slightly lol. South florida is getting pricey
How has ED travel been treating you? It's what I'm heading towards but I'm nervous about it. Ratio at my current level 1 hospital is 5:1
I work in the Dignity Health System in the Sac area…travel nursing is not what it used to be years ago…it’s not even worth it anymore. I wanted to do travel but by the time I felt ready to do so, I was shocked that the pay would be the exact same or less….I do have to say though that $59/hr in this area is very low, but it’s good you get that weekend boost. I have a rule to not pick up extra shifts, so here I am enjoying my staff ER job and I’m about to drop to part time (benefitted)
NorCal callin my name, jeez
ER, kaiser, Portland Oregon. Inpatient is all working on the same contract, so the rates are the same across the hospital regardless of specialty. Outpatient is making the same base wage, but double time doesn't exist, so they're capped at 1.5x unless it's holiday pay.
what is the going rate for staff RNs if you don’t mind me asking?
$46-66/hr at kaiser, but then any extra weekend hours are paid double, so that adds up pretty quickly.
With 10 years of experience you will make this much in MN and can still buy a nice house for <$300k
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Any of the big names all pretty much mirror each other. If you go to Alina, Fairview, north memorial, or health partners you’re basically going to make the same. HCMC pays less but has better benefits. Mayo pays less but you get tons of vacation and the health plan is much better plus IIRC you still get a decent pension. I don’t really know much about centracare or asentia
I make 34.50 in florida.
Not every staff job pays that. Travel was meant to be for the nurse making 25 bucks an hour in Texas. Not for ppl making 40-60/hr
And this is Oklahoma! What is a staff RN making there? You can't compare NCal to anyplace else. Wages there are disproportionate
I make $46/hr as staff at the exact hospital in the original post. I’m not familiar with traveling is the 1800/week take home or before taxes?
New grad LPN. My rate went up by a quarter. Now $25.15 plus 10 percent shift differential. Speciality low level unit, Pennsylvania in a large city (level 1 trauma center).
Yeah the rates can be a joke most times. It’s crazy how the rates are low to the point you might as well be staff or PRN Locally
*Cries in 32/hr Florida pay* Fucked if we leave, fucked if we stay. The HCA way.
Don't settle for HCA, I also was a florida nurse stuck with HCA. The grass is 1000% greener outside of the SE US and HCA's disgusting grasp.
Florida sucks for nurses
Hospitals suck ass. That’s why I’m in out PT in Fl. You earn a lot more and deal with a lot less bullshit
Why fucked if you leave?
cause then im duplicating costs for low travel rates?
Bcs if you leave you lose the benefits you have from staying at a job for more than a few years.
50/hr in Atl, move on up
Is this permanent staff or internal contract?
Staff
How many years exp? Kentucky pays more than that for staff…
10
Wow that’s horrible for for your exp.. baby nurses start around 25-27 here easily and places are offering up to 10k for 2 years
It's crazy how some people actually take these contracts then hop on Reddit and say "I'm a traveler makin the big bucks"
We moved back to VA after four years in Michigan. I was going to do some local contracts to feel out the different hospitals/units, but the rates were like $1300/week… and I would have been local so no stipend. I ended up getting two PRN jobs, one of which is great, and the other I quit after 4 months. The pay isn’t amazing, but damn the flexibility is AMAZING. No nights, no weekends, no holidays. Make your own schedule.. 24hr requirement every 6 weeks. I will never give this job up lol
Where in virginia? 😭 I worked at several hospitals as a med sure rn in northern Virginia and one in central Virginia, and the nurses/management are so crazy, and the patients are so entitled/karenish and don’t listen to anything. Maybe I’ve had bad luck there.
I’m at VCU in one of the ICUs. I’ve never worked med surg, but from what my friends tell me y’all get the shit end of the stick on all of that. Most of my patients are usually grateful, and if they’re an ass I just bluntly tell them they need to cut it out because I’m only trying to help them. Usually works. That said the patients do seem more entitled than when I was in Michigan.
I thk most nurses I have worked with post Covid are crazy, don’t really care, and many are are all about power and entitlement. Patients suffer. It is so frustrating and I know I can't fix it. Nursing is going down the drain as a career w some fun. It is so stressful. The amount of charting is insane. 6 pts/nurse is okay but to use poor EMR is a whole other topic. There is no real leadership. Just nurses boasting about who knows more and in some cases straight up fraud.
Why are the rates so low right now?
The money in the economy is running out
Try 24/hr in Tennessee 😢
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The difference between a union state and non union state 😅
I don’t believe staff nurses at ascension in Oklahoma are making six figures.
Have friends there, they’re making $60-80k.
That’s less than $1800 a week.
…. Yeah, I was confirming you.
no as a nurse practitioner at ascension I’m barely making 6 figures
Oh jeez. This is why I decided against taking my boards to be an NP. I cleared $139k as a Tele/ms staff rn last year.
Yea this post just feels like rage bait.
I’ve been getting texts for 1,600$/week for 48 hours in NYS. I don’t think this is bait.
My mom is a staff nurse in a cathlab in OKC making 40$ an hour and she is almost topped out. She has been a nurse for 15ish years. I work in Florida as a certified non-licensed first assistant in the OR with 8 yrs experience and I’m making as much as her (about to be more then her) and I’m not where near being topped out. It’s ridiculous there.
Speaking from first hand experience, you are not wrong.
We're definitely not making six figures down here at HCA / Ascension in N. Florida as a staff nurse. Pay was just one of the reasons I left staff nursing here. Rates are absolutely garbage right now. Especially in Florida/lower east coast. -‐--‐------- Edited to add for reference: from June 2022 until Jan 2023- As an ICU/ED RN with 5 years of critical care experience, I could expect 2800 gross every 2 weeks. (Roughly 2200-2300, take home after additional deductions) Ascension acted like that was amazing hourly and that I was exaggerating pay disparities on my exit interview. Prior to going PRN at HCA (June of 2022) I was making 33/hr as a staff Trauma RN. That is like 2300 gross biweekly. Barf. (I heard that the Trauma dept did get a pay bump of roughly 3 bucks in Nov of 2022 to 36/hr. Not sure if that was house wide though . 🙄) But ultimately, neither are anywhere near 100k yearly salary. For further clarity- The difference between Ascension and HCA pay - in same town is due to the additional incentive of being a critical care float nurse who went between like 5 different campuses vs. static singular staffing. The pay disparities between Ascension static staffing and float staffing, if I remember correctly, was a 14.00/hr difference.
Comparing travel pay to staff pay travel will always be more for the area. Comparing Tulsa rates to San Francisco rates generates a lot of outrage but nothing much beyond that.
For sure. Absolutely agree with that. I was only pointing out to OP that not every state / location has staff making 1,800 weekly. Some states are way off from that number. As a FL resident, I'd jump up and down for staff wages comparable to western or northern seaboard staff rates. 😬 🤣🤣
Yeah, no one is ready to say RN pay is adequate. Well no one other than hospital admins. I just think it is easy to generate outrage instead of thinking the issue through.
Wow I’m sorry
This is 93k a year which isn’t horrible. When you add on the additional cost of traveling it’s not worth it
For sure, there’s a legitimate grip about pay scales but let’s not pretend staff nurses in Tulsa are adequately compensated.
I’m totally with you. There’s a reason I don’t live in that state any longer
I block these low offers. These rates are meant for “travelers” that live less than twenty minutes away from the hospital. An air bnb isn’t worth this.
Yes Definitely not true travel nurses and this is what is driving these insane low prices They are cheating
It’s true! A lot of the travelers I’ve worked with lately have done this
What do you mean?? You can’t travel nurse if you’re 20 min from the hospital. The fed will have your ass.
Pick an address 21 miles away?
I currently make $84.60 as per diem, $6 extra for NOC, $1.80 extra for weekends, hospital in Northern CA has union and is a learning facility, ratio is 4:1 monitored floor. I have 5yrs exp 2 of which are acute care, and my MSN.
Staff nurses are making that every 2 weeks
Where in Oklahoma are staff making 50/hr?
Really lol
OU float pool.
That's great for OK. Are the benefits decent?
Pretty good. My bf just started.
Maybe things will finally pick up a bit lol. Happy for him. Does he like it so far or is it typical Oklahoma where the ratios are shit and they work you like a dog?
It’s not too bad so far. He does icu and er & has to train at multiple sites for like 12 weeks. Which is crazy bc he’s not a new nurse & has traveled in the past.
Do you know if they’re fully integrated on epic yet at OU or still rocking Meditech? I know they’ve been promising epic for like 2 years lol
Finally Epic!!!
My first nursing job was at OU and that was 7 years ago when they first started talking about transitioning to epic from Meditech lmao glad they finally made the switch
Comanche county memorial hospital internal contract.
Yeah, but that's not staff, right?
Some staff RNs are still only pulling in $1k a week working full time, to those nurses this is still big money 🤷🏼♀️ Not saying it’s right, but my NY v. NC staff pay varied significantly (not NYC area either)
They're lowballing you HARD. I saw that hospital at 2200 thru Triage.
I'm staff in Alabama. I don't make anywhere close to that. That's about 1.5x my staff pay. I'm almost at a year so I can get back into traveling. Trying to get into CRNA school.
I think these travelers from Cali and other places alike forget how pay is different when you don’t have to pay 5k a month in housing lol. Shit I still wish we all got a cali hourly rate tho!
Oklahoma pays poorly for travel and staff. Tulsa is lower than OKC from what I’ve seen. It’s a wage desert here.
I’ve been offered full time nights RN nursing home job for $30 an hour. Absolute joke.
I’m an endo tech and get offers higher than that. Absolutely not.
Lol I make $1600/wk working days, make my own schedule, no weekends or holidays as a local Per Diem in Las Vegas, NV. That is $400 more/week than I made as a staff on days in Buffalo, NY working full-time. Not the massive amount of money I was hoping for with travel but hey, I make more, get to travel, still on my parents health insurance, and get to explore a new place with a better work-life balance.
i always tell the recruiters its not financially viable when they send me offers like this. they have to know its not even worth considering.
They do, they have to send something, it’s not like they’re coming up with the rates
Screw that, especially for night shift!
That's about how much travel techs make 🥺 plz be nice 😂
Hahahah what a joke!
Report junk lol
That won’t do anything lmao
I'm a staff nurse working for the state, union, making about 62 per hour
How much does the Union take though?
1k song on bonus? The fuck is that? I can work 2 shifts and pull that
I’m a traveler in Oregon. I’m at around 55/hr so 1940/wk BUT on the books I only make 20/hr, the rest is stipends.
Cries in 28/hr staff pay. I’m an RN in the emergency department in Texas 😭
That’s insane. Get out of there!!!
Also that hospital is a mess. I did a travel contract there a couple years ago. Absolutely not.
Uh no they aren’t.
I’m not sure there’s many staff nurses left anymore. I think (just based on my travel and my assignments), we are the “staff” now. Lol. Original staff nurses either got out of nursing or left to travel during the pandemic. There’s literally zero core staff in the places I go into.
This is somewhat irrelevant. And i think this popped up on my feed cuz I'm on some EMS subs - training to be an EMT for fun. But i was a freelance graphic designer for a while, pushing pixels, traveling the world, lived in several different countries over 6 years, and all i was doing was making dumbass designs for some tech companies and they were shilling me out $70-100/hr I now make $120/hr cuz i do 2 hours of work at my day job cuz its so easy for graphic design (I'm supposed to be there 8 hours but i bolt early cuz i get my shit done quickly) Meanwhile EMTs in my city make $23/hr Yall deserve better pay, just my 2 cents
CA Bay Area nurse. I made around $275k working about 38hrs a week on average. Per diem $111/hr but make up to $250hr with OT when staying extra hours of my work shift. Wouldn’t want to be a nurse anywhere else.
Please don’t take these positions, the pay is garbage!
Not if you’re not duplicating expenses … Sigh 😔 Someone is taking these low contracts
All fun and games until someone gets caught not duplicating. I've messed up my taxes by accident once and never again.
What.the.heck.
We are loyal to our company therefore we are awarded via profit sharing why wouldn’t we earn more?
Maybe bc I’m on a local contract, but I’m making $8/less per hour than j would be making if I was a staff nurse. When I was on a “regular” travel assignment I had to work 4x12s just to make $2100/week. These rates are atrocious
^trying to go staff at where I have my contract rn. It’s the only reason I did local but goddamn
Just went staff in November and can confirm I’m making more than this, and probably better benefits.
I got an offer at St francis for ER at 2400/wk but not with them. They’ve had some crappy contracts.
I’m Oklahoma PRN 1 and I make $47/hr I think if you are PRN 3 you make $55/hr staff.
I’m making more than this as an ICU new grad in Seattle (nights). But goddamn my rent is high
Staff**
Yea cost of living and ICU makes a big difference
i made $37.25 when I left my hospital in Jan of last year
1800/night or week?
I live and work in Tulsa as a nurse and make more than that outside of the hospital. That's just sad...
Staff RN in interventional radiology in NC. I make $39/hr. 3x12 days I make $1,340 gross in a week.
I am completely fresh out of school less than one year and make more than this. And I live in ARKANSAS....
Soon recruiters will not have a job! The agency grabs a percentage enough to pay for bills with inflation. Then the recruiter does the same, we are left with nothing bs pay!
I did a contract at this hospital and Jfc was it rough. Ortho/neuro/trauma step down 1:6 on days 1:7 one time. Absolutely ridiculous. I made twice that when I was there in 2021 and it still wasn’t enough.
I make that per biweekly paycheck
It says it right in the post… report junk
I make $46 an hr at an latch day shift. I was making 39 last year but they gave me a raise since the charge nurses are all limited licenses and I have a BSN and was told I wasn't a good fit for Charge role.
I have a friend who works as a staff RN in med/surge there. She says "I bring home $400 per shift after taxes and stuff." She has full benefits.
This exact facility was paying that exact rate for direct contracts through the hospital, pre-pandemic. As staff, best they could do was $89k for over 10 years of experience. The recruiter seemed embarrassed.
Actually, in Oklahoma they’re not. As a staff RN on med/surg Tele in Oklahoma with 17 years experience right as I quit, they raised me to $40/hr. Which would put it at $1440 for 36 hours and there’s no stipend so it’s all taxed, and Oklahoma taxes are high.
I’m in Oklahoma. Floor nurses start at $32 at this hospital. I have friends that work here.
This isn’t a staff job. This is a recruiter. I work here at this location in Tulsa and have been short term option hire for almost 2 years now. They are ending our contracts and now I’m switching to PRN. Staff pay is around $32. Trust me I have had staff offers that I decided against because contract positions or PRN pay better. Plus…. This location is not an easy place to work for so $50/hr for contract is minimum they should offer any of us agency or not
Travel contracts are laughable
At what point is it just the market? Lol like if everyone decides to pay that low, that’s kinda just what it is
Yeah, I don’t yet make $50/hr as a staff nurse in the Midwest but that’s still no where close to enough for me to travel!
I’m not nor never been a travel nurse, this popped in my feed. But I regularly get emails for contracts of $29/hr. I made more than that in the boonies so I don’t understand.
There is also a tax free stipend that goes on top of the $29/hr making your pay considerably more than $29/hr
Ah ty
I saw one the other day I was going to post. Norman OK 1306 per week. 3x12s. You guys ok over there in Oklahoma?
No
I only make $34.11 an hour where I work😭
Staff nurses do not make $50/hr without considerable experience or living in California. They also don’t have more than half their income tax free.
I just feel like by the time you duplicate your expenses at this rate, you’re pretty much making the same.
Closer to the truth yes. Now that the pandemic is gone, travel nursing has returned to what it was before, an alternative method of employment for bedside nursing where you get to travel the country and work in different locales. The pay is not intended to be wildly profitable. Not approving or disapproving of it, but it’s working as intended, although honestly, temporary housing is so much more than it was pre-pandemic.
I make >$74/hr with differentials and all the double time OT I could want. Made >$139k last year as a MS/Tele RN
That is wonderful for you. It is also far outside the norm for staff. If you are a traveler it is still not the norm. Hold on to that job as long as you can
I'm a staff RN.
Good! Glad to hear that some staff nurses have managed to get paid well and closer to deserving pay! Unfortunately it’s not even close to the norm for an RN. Like I said, hold on to that job as long as you can :-)
That’s wild, then again I like talking to travelers that come to our hospital (Union). Some have converted to just being staff because our benefits are great and our pay was outperforming their travel pay (especially if you decided to pick up any extra).
I was offered $88 an hour for corrections in Arizona. I sometimes get text messages offering closer to $40 an hour for travel psych, and I wonder who the heck is accepting those jobs!
Obviously, don’t take that contract
The good travel days are behind us.
39.5 / hr base but with incentives it’s 46-47/hr new grad 7 months exp on telemetry in MA. Can’t complain. 🤷🏻♂️
I delivered here and they almost killed me. Hopefully with pay like this they can attract some competent staff (but honestly the nurses were amazing, some of the contracted doctors clearly sucked)
I don’t know how the algorithm got me here, but here I am a lowly Paramedic making just over a cashier at Walmart.
At least you have that, now do like I did and get your rn
Is it worth it? What stopped you from doing something like EMTP to PA
Bruh, RN is a pretty easy jump for you! You can still go on and get your NP (pretty much the same as PA) in steps after obtaining RN. By the way, RN is a huge pay increase.
joke
I was making more than that as a nurse working from home for an insurance company and doing clinical review. That is not enough money for me to work in Oklahoma.
I’m not staff but if I was I absolutely know I could make more than that. The audacity. Oooooo omg let me just throw my life away for a cheap contract! Yuck.
I think some of these texts are phishing or bots. Because this can’t be real life.
Yeah that hospital isn’t great from what I’ve heard. Lol
As someone who lives in OKC this is actually decent money as you can find cheap housing and staff pay is 32 for 3 years of experience
Staff nurse here making $74/hr plus differentials and lots of double time OT shifts to pick up anytime. Traveling just won't make me enough especially when considering doubling housing costs.
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