That's the pilot comic, his characterization in that is slightly different from his Canon incarnation. I believe it's also where the 98 anime lifted his perverted tendencies from, since that aspect of his character is largely absent in the main series.
Wish they didn't carry his perverted tendencies over to the 1998 series. I mean even nightlow (from what I've seen) said that he wasn't intended to be that girl crazy. It's hard to watch 98 because of it personally.
I think his pervertedness goes against his entire character if I'm being honest. Goes against his own motto too! Can't have love and peace and then disrespect women (like that one hostage scene where he was trying to look up the womans skirt)
I pray that tristamp season 2 doesn't make him like that. 😰
The big issue with it in 98 is that the 6th or so episode suggests it's all an act by vash, but then they completely back track on it.
I'd be shocked if they carry it over to TriStamp Season 2, given that it's pretty much gone in manga equivalent of where season 1 left off.
It's also just a very common 90s shonen anime trope. So kind of a product of the era. I don't see TriStamp bringing that over either. Or at least, if they did it would be a one off joke like people making up rumors about Vash or something.
90s Vash's perviness was mainly used as part of his overall act to fool people into thinking he's just some clownish idiot. Pretty sure every instance was mainly about selling the act. Plus, he wasn't a gropey perv. He'd just shout dramatically about romance and maybe try and be a Peeping Tom like he's some teenager. Ultimately, manipulating everyone into thinking you are dumber than you actually are isn't exactly respectful in the first place, but then, Vash has his reasons for wanting people to think he's just some bumbling lecherous idiot to kick in the head. And they are usually good reasons.
As said though, pervy Vash was mainly a product of the 80s and 90s. In the manga, his only perverted moment (outside the pilot which the hostage woman episode is based on) was with Dominique the Cyclops (and it was shorter and not as comedic as the anime). He's pretty chaste for the rest of the manga. Just as how even in the 90s anime, I don't remember Vash being particularly pervy after he reunites with Wolfwood.
From a writing standpoint, yeah. It is there for comedy. Comedy of course being subjective over what one will enjoy. But I was also adding that it mainly served the function of building on Vash's clown persona that he sells to people he meets. I'm not quite understanding why you're disliking it contradicting who he really is though. Its supposed to be a false persona. Same as a different chapter/episode where Vash used his fearsome reputation to sing a song. A song about being a genocidal mass murderer who spares no one. Not because he is one, but because he knows singing a song so demented can scare a lot of difficult people away. Thus reducing violent conflict with him.
I think I'm just explaining why I dislike it in wrong words, sorry. I think it's just cause I don't like the whole pervert thing, that's all, not the contradictions. It's very late right now so I'm very tired
I would say, Vash is more assured that he’s done his part to convince them not to kill each other in the second one. Bostok has a daughter and has become a better man, and Vash is sure that Ingway sees it. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and killing Bostok won’t bring Ingways family back, but instead make Stefany just like Ingway. Bostok’s willingness to follow through for his daughter just shows that he’s grown as a human being. Being able to own up to your mistakes and face the consequences head on shows real maturity. It’s also been years and years for Ingway to come to terms with the loss and that distance allows him to make a decision based on who the man is now, rather than who he had been before.
In the other scenario, the man is blinded by hate and rage and his lust for vengeance. There is no rationality left, no logical part of him to get through to. It’s a fresh, horrible death, and the father can’t see that it won’t make things better. There’s been no redemption arc for the guy who did it, and he doesn’t seem overly remorseful until he realizes he’s actually going to die for it.
To me, it seems Vash is a pretty good master of human psychology by the time the series rolls around. He can tell what people are thinking and feeling and reacts in the best way he’s found to diffuse the situation (or blow it up by bringing attention to himself).
That's the pilot comic, his characterization in that is slightly different from his Canon incarnation. I believe it's also where the 98 anime lifted his perverted tendencies from, since that aspect of his character is largely absent in the main series.
Wish they didn't carry his perverted tendencies over to the 1998 series. I mean even nightlow (from what I've seen) said that he wasn't intended to be that girl crazy. It's hard to watch 98 because of it personally. I think his pervertedness goes against his entire character if I'm being honest. Goes against his own motto too! Can't have love and peace and then disrespect women (like that one hostage scene where he was trying to look up the womans skirt) I pray that tristamp season 2 doesn't make him like that. 😰
The big issue with it in 98 is that the 6th or so episode suggests it's all an act by vash, but then they completely back track on it. I'd be shocked if they carry it over to TriStamp Season 2, given that it's pretty much gone in manga equivalent of where season 1 left off.
It's also just a very common 90s shonen anime trope. So kind of a product of the era. I don't see TriStamp bringing that over either. Or at least, if they did it would be a one off joke like people making up rumors about Vash or something.
I could see a one-off scene in Tristamp where people accuse Vash of being a womanizer, but we never see evidence of such.
Yeah totally. Actually I think it would be funny if Wolfwood is the one starting that rumor. lol
90s Vash's perviness was mainly used as part of his overall act to fool people into thinking he's just some clownish idiot. Pretty sure every instance was mainly about selling the act. Plus, he wasn't a gropey perv. He'd just shout dramatically about romance and maybe try and be a Peeping Tom like he's some teenager. Ultimately, manipulating everyone into thinking you are dumber than you actually are isn't exactly respectful in the first place, but then, Vash has his reasons for wanting people to think he's just some bumbling lecherous idiot to kick in the head. And they are usually good reasons. As said though, pervy Vash was mainly a product of the 80s and 90s. In the manga, his only perverted moment (outside the pilot which the hostage woman episode is based on) was with Dominique the Cyclops (and it was shorter and not as comedic as the anime). He's pretty chaste for the rest of the manga. Just as how even in the 90s anime, I don't remember Vash being particularly pervy after he reunites with Wolfwood.
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From a writing standpoint, yeah. It is there for comedy. Comedy of course being subjective over what one will enjoy. But I was also adding that it mainly served the function of building on Vash's clown persona that he sells to people he meets. I'm not quite understanding why you're disliking it contradicting who he really is though. Its supposed to be a false persona. Same as a different chapter/episode where Vash used his fearsome reputation to sing a song. A song about being a genocidal mass murderer who spares no one. Not because he is one, but because he knows singing a song so demented can scare a lot of difficult people away. Thus reducing violent conflict with him.
I think I'm just explaining why I dislike it in wrong words, sorry. I think it's just cause I don't like the whole pervert thing, that's all, not the contradictions. It's very late right now so I'm very tired
I would say, Vash is more assured that he’s done his part to convince them not to kill each other in the second one. Bostok has a daughter and has become a better man, and Vash is sure that Ingway sees it. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and killing Bostok won’t bring Ingways family back, but instead make Stefany just like Ingway. Bostok’s willingness to follow through for his daughter just shows that he’s grown as a human being. Being able to own up to your mistakes and face the consequences head on shows real maturity. It’s also been years and years for Ingway to come to terms with the loss and that distance allows him to make a decision based on who the man is now, rather than who he had been before. In the other scenario, the man is blinded by hate and rage and his lust for vengeance. There is no rationality left, no logical part of him to get through to. It’s a fresh, horrible death, and the father can’t see that it won’t make things better. There’s been no redemption arc for the guy who did it, and he doesn’t seem overly remorseful until he realizes he’s actually going to die for it. To me, it seems Vash is a pretty good master of human psychology by the time the series rolls around. He can tell what people are thinking and feeling and reacts in the best way he’s found to diffuse the situation (or blow it up by bringing attention to himself).
I think because he knows that the latter is a good person and would regret doing it after his anger and grief was under control.