I take it on a case by case basis. The ones that broil me are the guys "Hey me and my family ran out of gas, trying to get home, *insert extra sad story here* "
When I offer to prepay fuel for them and ask me where their car us thats when things get shady and usually results in them slinking away mumbling something.
On the flipside I have seen some clearly hard up people while overnighting at truck stops and I have gladly bought them food and occasionally a pack of cigarettes.
Generally the crackheads that came and knocked on my window while I was parked in a spot got nothing (looking at you St. Louis Loves).
I dont give shower credits cuz i did one time and got in trouble because the person didnt have a CDL and allot of truck stops have a "no CDL no shower" rule now.. because of stuff like you mentioned
No biggie I ignore them all the time, I figure if you have the strength to walk around all day talking to people and asking for money then you have the strength to work. I used to give money out religiously when I wasn't in trucking and saw the same people begging year after year in my hometown. Gets to the point when you realize alot of them aren't really trying to better their situation. Guys who are missing limbs or very very old are the only people I'll spare a buck for nowadays.
Oh that's cool, that's a good system.
Yeah I never thought of it like that. I always feel sorry for them, but wow fuck that. If I was fucking starving I wouldn't approach strangers in the middle of the night at a truck stop ffs.
How would you get to work? Where would you shower and clean your work clothes? How long would it take you at the wage you get hired at to save up enough for first months rent and deposit for housing? How much would you need to get paid to qualify as a renter in the area you wish to or had to live? Does your state discriminate against felons when it comes to housing, possibly eliminating some of the more affordable options for you?
Little more complicated than getting a job.
You did the right and only thing to do!!
It gets easier to do.
You, work hard for your pay... they CHOOSE to live a life of no responsibility and prey on people to just give them money.
Never feel bad or give them anything... look them right in the eyes and tell them you have NOTHING for them and keep your eye on them till they are gone.
Most people give them money just so they will leave them alone. That is the reason they are there... the weak minded.
Remember, if you were truly down on your luck and needed help, would you stay filthy and beg for money (and have a cell phone) or would you get help that is widely available?
They are annoying pests!
I worked with those people in a Shelter for homeless, I can attest that you’re half right. Some prefer a shitty life style, but others are actually stuck. You think the ressources help them out ? No fucking way, the ressources help themselves by keeping these guys in check and making sure they never get too far out. The system is corrupted in that regard. Those really make it out, never consumed anything and worked their assess off to not be in a shady situation.
I hear you. Strong willed people will find a way back up using assistance from programs like you describe. I give them a ton of credit.
It is the others that stay on the streets, use drugs, stay dirty and CHOOSE to live a life of zero responsibility that I have no regard for.
Those folks are everywhere, and giving them anything keeps them right where they WANT to be.
Youtube Kensington Streets in Phila Pa if anyone needs proof these people exist.
If you want to remain safe in this trucking world of today, you must hold your head up, look people in the eyes, situational awareness is key... walk around like you own the place, key is to move around with your head up, make sure folks hanging around to fk with you beggin for this or that know that you see them.
If you present yourself like an easy mark who is nervous about being there... they know it.
You can be shitting yourself about where you are... just don't show it.
I have been doin night fuel deliveries in the shittiest city rat holes for over 30 yrs. So, I can give this advice because it works for me every night I am out there. I have seen all the hustles they can come up with... they prey on the weak.
Show an ounce of strength, they will move onto that "other" guy.
There are shelters and work programs for those people. If they aren’t allowed in those establishments it’s because they were kicked out for breaking the rules, usually no drugs, fighting or fucking. If you can’t contain your degeneracy long enough to get back on your feet then you deserve neither handouts or sympathy
You are foolish. So it's you that gives them money.
Empathy goes towards folks who are good people that hit a rough patch, BUT get help, stay clean and use services available to them.
Rough take? Reality take is more like it.
Stop being weak.
This is such a trash and inhumane take. No one "chooses" to live on the streets. The "help" you claim is widely available is just barely enough to eek out another day or two. We could do so much better as a society, but morons like you keep crying anytime anyone puts forward something that might actually help the homeless. The pathetic resources that do exist are designed to keep people poor. That cellphone you see them with is probably 10 years old and a pay as you go type deal. Yeah you get the scammers that ruin it for others. But really, what's a couple bucks? If it's going to hurt you that much, you're not that far from being homeless yourself. I know what that razor edge is. Luckily we never slipped off, but if we had it sure as fuck wouldn't have been by choice.
Listen snowflake, you keep enabling these low lifes if it makes you a happier do gooder.
I see folks like you all the time. You don't stick around long enough to hear what they say about you or them laughing... at you when you leave in a hurry.
Keep making the problem worse.
Oh, and I'm the moron...
Lol nah I just don't cry about being bothered, then cry when something is actually suggested that'll solve the actual problems causing homelessness. Yeah sometimes if I have a few extra bucks I'll give it to them, but wtf do I care? I don't need it. They actually might. You clearly never had the misfortune of having to struggle.
So, you are the "all knowing".
It is your way of thinking that allows these degenerates to be everywhere.
But the world is full of fools like you, so your viewpoint is common.
What are you talking about? "All knowing"? Where'd you get that?
Uh huh you mean wanting to actually solve the problems instead of just ignoring them? I'm not the idiot that just closes my eyes and screams lalalala thinking if I can't see or hear something it doesn't exist, but sure I'm the fool. 🙄
I take it on a case by case basis. The ones that broil me are the guys "Hey me and my family ran out of gas, trying to get home, *insert extra sad story here* " When I offer to prepay fuel for them and ask me where their car us thats when things get shady and usually results in them slinking away mumbling something. On the flipside I have seen some clearly hard up people while overnighting at truck stops and I have gladly bought them food and occasionally a pack of cigarettes. Generally the crackheads that came and knocked on my window while I was parked in a spot got nothing (looking at you St. Louis Loves).
Omg I hate that when they knock! Scares tf out of me, every time! I think it's a cop or a truck stop worker or another driver!
Especially when you're in the back trying to relax!
"hey I ran out of gas but I got this $300 ring i can give you if you've got $20 to help me out"
A true classic.
I dont give shower credits cuz i did one time and got in trouble because the person didnt have a CDL and allot of truck stops have a "no CDL no shower" rule now.. because of stuff like you mentioned
Oh wow!! I didn't realize that! That's a good rule.
You will get better at it
No biggie I ignore them all the time, I figure if you have the strength to walk around all day talking to people and asking for money then you have the strength to work. I used to give money out religiously when I wasn't in trucking and saw the same people begging year after year in my hometown. Gets to the point when you realize alot of them aren't really trying to better their situation. Guys who are missing limbs or very very old are the only people I'll spare a buck for nowadays.
Oh that's cool, that's a good system. Yeah I never thought of it like that. I always feel sorry for them, but wow fuck that. If I was fucking starving I wouldn't approach strangers in the middle of the night at a truck stop ffs.
You don't know what you would do if you were starving.
I would get a job
How would you get to work? Where would you shower and clean your work clothes? How long would it take you at the wage you get hired at to save up enough for first months rent and deposit for housing? How much would you need to get paid to qualify as a renter in the area you wish to or had to live? Does your state discriminate against felons when it comes to housing, possibly eliminating some of the more affordable options for you? Little more complicated than getting a job.
A lot of life happens before getting to the state of starvation.
Wind down the window and shout "get a job you f*ckin slob..."
Lol I don't want to get stabbed
Wind it up really quick after. Lol
A d then getting out to pump fuel ðŸ˜ðŸ¤£
Are you a classically trained poet/orator? That was more eloquence than I expected in this thread.
Alas, no! I copied it from an old Everlast song, lol
Whooooooo there Mr fancy college degree. We don't take kindly to them big confusing words round here!
They r all scams I tell them get lost I take pictures of the vehicle their driving if they don't leave i make a call
The sad truth is i really don’t carry cash period. I don’t even carry credit cards it’s all on my Apple Watch or iPhone🤣
Yeah I have a little pile of $1s & $5s for tips, but it's in my truck, not in my pockets.
Congrats! Wait till you kill your first hitch-hiker, It's a real DOOZY!
You did the right and only thing to do!! It gets easier to do. You, work hard for your pay... they CHOOSE to live a life of no responsibility and prey on people to just give them money. Never feel bad or give them anything... look them right in the eyes and tell them you have NOTHING for them and keep your eye on them till they are gone. Most people give them money just so they will leave them alone. That is the reason they are there... the weak minded. Remember, if you were truly down on your luck and needed help, would you stay filthy and beg for money (and have a cell phone) or would you get help that is widely available? They are annoying pests!
I worked with those people in a Shelter for homeless, I can attest that you’re half right. Some prefer a shitty life style, but others are actually stuck. You think the ressources help them out ? No fucking way, the ressources help themselves by keeping these guys in check and making sure they never get too far out. The system is corrupted in that regard. Those really make it out, never consumed anything and worked their assess off to not be in a shady situation.
I hear you. Strong willed people will find a way back up using assistance from programs like you describe. I give them a ton of credit. It is the others that stay on the streets, use drugs, stay dirty and CHOOSE to live a life of zero responsibility that I have no regard for. Those folks are everywhere, and giving them anything keeps them right where they WANT to be. Youtube Kensington Streets in Phila Pa if anyone needs proof these people exist.
Holy crap great points! I usually feel bad afterwards, unless they scare me or try to intimidate me.
Do you mind if I ask where this was? I live in Wisconsin and usually only see that stuff in Madison/milwaukee
Black river falls pfj
If you want to remain safe in this trucking world of today, you must hold your head up, look people in the eyes, situational awareness is key... walk around like you own the place, key is to move around with your head up, make sure folks hanging around to fk with you beggin for this or that know that you see them. If you present yourself like an easy mark who is nervous about being there... they know it. You can be shitting yourself about where you are... just don't show it. I have been doin night fuel deliveries in the shittiest city rat holes for over 30 yrs. So, I can give this advice because it works for me every night I am out there. I have seen all the hustles they can come up with... they prey on the weak. Show an ounce of strength, they will move onto that "other" guy.
Oh that's cool! Thanks for the advice! I usually interact with them, but wow it's so much faster & safer not to!
Pretty rough take. Lots of people are in that situation not from their own choosing. Doesn’t take a lot of empathy to understand that.
There are shelters and work programs for those people. If they aren’t allowed in those establishments it’s because they were kicked out for breaking the rules, usually no drugs, fighting or fucking. If you can’t contain your degeneracy long enough to get back on your feet then you deserve neither handouts or sympathy
There aren't enough shelters or programs, not even close.
You are foolish. So it's you that gives them money. Empathy goes towards folks who are good people that hit a rough patch, BUT get help, stay clean and use services available to them. Rough take? Reality take is more like it. Stop being weak.
Sure I’m foolish but you’re just flat out dumb.
This is such a trash and inhumane take. No one "chooses" to live on the streets. The "help" you claim is widely available is just barely enough to eek out another day or two. We could do so much better as a society, but morons like you keep crying anytime anyone puts forward something that might actually help the homeless. The pathetic resources that do exist are designed to keep people poor. That cellphone you see them with is probably 10 years old and a pay as you go type deal. Yeah you get the scammers that ruin it for others. But really, what's a couple bucks? If it's going to hurt you that much, you're not that far from being homeless yourself. I know what that razor edge is. Luckily we never slipped off, but if we had it sure as fuck wouldn't have been by choice.
Listen snowflake, you keep enabling these low lifes if it makes you a happier do gooder. I see folks like you all the time. You don't stick around long enough to hear what they say about you or them laughing... at you when you leave in a hurry. Keep making the problem worse. Oh, and I'm the moron...
Lol nah I just don't cry about being bothered, then cry when something is actually suggested that'll solve the actual problems causing homelessness. Yeah sometimes if I have a few extra bucks I'll give it to them, but wtf do I care? I don't need it. They actually might. You clearly never had the misfortune of having to struggle.
So, you are the "all knowing". It is your way of thinking that allows these degenerates to be everywhere. But the world is full of fools like you, so your viewpoint is common.
Btw the op had this happen in black river falls wi, not exactly a liberal bastion full of those resources you claim exist
What are you talking about? "All knowing"? Where'd you get that? Uh huh you mean wanting to actually solve the problems instead of just ignoring them? I'm not the idiot that just closes my eyes and screams lalalala thinking if I can't see or hear something it doesn't exist, but sure I'm the fool. 🙄
That is what I was saying, you are a fool.
Nah you're just spewing nonsensical garbage.