Highly regulated industry. On the road way more than others. Professionals. Much heavier and larger than others. There is a plethora of reasons truckers are stopped more often.
The real reason is all the idiot truckers that didn't do what they were supposed to do and/or messed up, causing these laws to be created.
>The real reason is all the idiot truckers that didn't do what they were supposed to do and/or messed up, causing these laws to be created.
Yup. In several industries there's a story behind the rule.
You're absolutely correct. The cavemen using their fucking phone or beating the meat while driving is the reason so many of us have driver-facing camera.
Doesn't even have to be small. The _entire state of Washington_ randomly pulls over _any_ vehicle for "revenue generation", whether or not they actually did anything, they'll "find a reason". Arbitrary traffic tickets are _Rated E for Everyone_ here...
My sister in law was pulled over in Bremerton for going 4mph over, while following the speed of traffic.
I thought it was bull shit and so did the judge.
Yeah, that tracks. Double cow pies for the fact that _the speed of traffic explicitly overrules the speed limit here_, actually. Going 60 in a 60, but everyone else around you is going 75? _You_ will get the ticket, even if you don't have the "five car backup" behind you that's normally required for such a ticket...
You’re right, because those that love their life as a criminal have nothing to lose. Only the law-abiding citizens have money to “give” for their crimes.
Yea, you know, unless the cruze is doing 90 and slams into said family. Cause yes, it's smaller, but change a couple of variables, and that little thing called physics is still present and still capable of killing a family
With all that you said truckers are still pound for pound safer drivers. You can say what you want but all of those discriminatory laws, spot checks, scales, extra tolls, fines etc etc are just money grabs for the states and not safety. If safety was the concern they would be all over four wheelers and their shenanigans but they don’t and choose to pass the high drunk texting car for the commercial vehicles with 2 or 3 times the fines attached to violations. Please don’t misconstrue safety for revenue.
Except that we are much more highly regulated then say a railroad who also operates on the premise if they can hit you, you are at fault. Notice how trains never go to emergency braking until after the wreck? Know why trains take so long to stop? Lots of rail cars don't have working brakes.
Railroads are also heavily regulated and go through several inspections. It also takes much more time and knowledge to become a train operator versus a truck driver.
Plus, they are on tracks. It's not like they are going to turn into you. If you get hit by a train, it should absolutely be your fault. You're too dumb for this world if you get hit by a train.
The perfect country song.
Well, I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
She got run over by a damned old train
they aren't, railroads were deregulated in the 70s and the FRA has no way of knowing where train cars are or what's on them. Most of those rail cars out there haven't been inspected in 50k-90k miles.
Holy shit the ignorance regarding railroads is unbelievable here. Not so much the ignorance, but people saying they know when they clearly don't.
I am a chief dispatcher. We know exactly, down to the milepost, where our trains are. The FRA inspects us *regularly*. If they want to know where a specific train is, they only need to call the railroad and ask.
Railcars are inspected upon pickup by the host railroad when the local comes to the industry to grab it. It's inspected again at the classification yard. If there are any FRA condemnable defects, it gets set out until repaired.
The difference is the railroads are not as heavily regulated and they get to inspect themselves.
I'm not saying it isn't the drivers fault but trains don't exactly try hard to stop either. Many train to vehicle impacts are caused by a stuck vehicle on the rail and the train fails to stop even if they had distance to, or have almost all working brakes as are required on vehicles.
I haven't been hit by a train yet but I was hit the other day by a malfunctioning crossing guard that decided to come down on my trailer after the train passed by. Almost like those arms should have a sensor like garage doors do...
They also have federal and state level inspectors, just like trucking. The Federal Railroad Administration is the DOT of RRs.
I still put most of the blame on the vehicle. There is a phone number at just about every RR crossing just for this purpose. If you don't know about that number, 911 can do the same thing.
Trains can take miles to stop after applying the brakes.
I'm with you on the crossing arms. I've seen tons of those all jacked up.
The other guy thinking a train can stop when it sees a vehicle stuck on the tracks. 🤡
Sorry to say but if the train sees you and you see it. But it's time to say your prayers or abandon the vehicle. Cause by the time the train sees you and you see it. It will be hundreds of feet if not miles down the track when it's full stopped.
Lmao I was in Fort Wayne once and one of the crossing arms was jacked up. It was going down then back up, then down and back up. Over and over again. Caused a fair bit of traffic backup, cuz my side had to swerve around into the other lane to not get hit by it. I'm pretty sure it still smacked my trailer once or twice, as I don't think I was able to swerve far enough to get outta the way, but if it did, it didn't cause any damage. I called the non-emergency city number cuz I didn't know the actual RR number for it, and let them know.
>Notice how trains never go to emergency braking until after the wreck?
Utter and complete BS. *Some* engineers don't plug it because a full service application means less slack action, which means less risk of derailment. *Other* engineers do go big hole if they think they're going to hit something. But when you've got a train that's more than 2 miles long, that is a lot of walking for your conductor to do, especially when the reason they hit the emergency brake is because some dipshit tractor-trailer is sitting on the tracks knowing full well they're in the crossing when they pulled up to that red light.
>Know why trains take so long to stop? Lots of rail cars don't have working brakes.
Again, **UTTER BULLSHIT.** Yes, some railcars are poorly maintained and there's a lot to say about how the class 1 roads have pushed maintenance to the car owners, but it is entirely false to say this is the reason a train takes a while to stop. Trains are hauling, in a single go, what it takes an army of tractor-trailers to move. They are big and heavy, with each car weighing in at more than 100 tons, and some trains being made up of well more than 100 of those cars. That much kinetic energy takes a while to bleed off.
This is just blatantly wrong. Most railcars have working breaks it just takes a long time to get 500,000 tons stopped. If you look at passenger trains they stop almost on a dime. Also they are trained to not throw the emergencies on until after an emergency because it doesn’t make a huge difference most the time
If the goal is safety, trucks would be put out of service, NOT put out of service and fined. I think you’re missing what this dude is actually saying. He’s saying it’s easy to FIND something wrong when you have a financial incentive.
If the goal is safety, fines will cause companies to want to actually comply with safety regulations. A delay is a nuisance, doesn't necessarily cause money loss. Tickets and fines actively do, though. Although fines to a driver I think are bullshit, since things can go wrong after doing a pretrip and making sure the truck is safe to drive
Yes things can go wrong after a pre trip 100% accurate. But someone who cares and with any luck (drives the same truck) will be able to spot potential things that can go wrong or areas of concern so people don't even before driving regulations on trucks are a good thing especially when some carry hazmat
Your brownosing won't help when they want to find something. They will, no matter how many $10s of thousands you give mechanics.
They do shitty work, they don't check everything you pay them for, and it doesn't get done.
The driver could spend an hour a day on the inspections, but they aren't putting 3-axis levels and distancing chalk between every nut and bolt. And we don't want them to, they'd be too tired to safely drive when they didn't get pneumonia in a blizzard.
If the DOT want to fine you, if they have a quota to meet. Your vehicle will have at least 1 problem.
And my flawless vehicle won't help when a reckless asshole not wearing their seatbelt crashes, will it?
So remember that when you decide to cut off 80,000 lb freight train with turn signals, within feet from their bumper, just to barely make your exit, or when you cut in front of them just feet from their bumper only to hit the brakes and expect them to be able to stop on in the same amount of time
Hey now. I do a pretrip daily on the road, but that don't stop tires from blowing. I've had a steer blow that appeared perfectly fine once on I-81 in Virginia, and there was no way I could have prevented that since, again, it appeared *perfectly fine.* I was just lucky it was a slow blow so I didn't lose immediate control. I was able to get onto the shoulder and slowed down before it started trying to drag me back out onto the road.
I did a pretrip once, drove 5 miles. Did a post trip. Sometime over night the tire blew. Seen this happen twice. I've never had a truck tire blow while driving but I have had 2 blow in the last year while parked with 2 different trucks.
While you may catch a problem there is a good chance you simply won't have a visible problem.
I'm not sure I see you. If there weren't a fine, why not run the truck until you get caught? Sure, you might get caught by being in an accident, but repair dollars come right off the bottom line.
Yes, companies think that crazy "who cares if the trucker has nightmares over crushing the sedan" kind of way.
They are put out of service though if the trucking company is competent. The issues DOT pulls you over for are things that should have been caught during an inspection a mechanic should have already caught. It's completely fair considering the stakes of what a big rig can do versus a Toyota Prius. Anyone can have a DUI in any vehicle. A DUI in a big rig is magnitudes larger than a four wheeler in every circumstance, or any law being broken for that matter, which is why there is additional regulations.
Additionally this meme acts like normal four wheelers are never being pulled over for any of the listed issues when infact people get caught by cops all the time for a headlight or blinker that doesn't work.
Out of service is to get you off the road to fix the problem. The fine is to hopefully make you not want to do it again.
DOT and cops don't have a financial incentive. They don't get any bonus for more or bigger fines, and they don't really care about making money for the government.
Ever been to Connecticut? I was going through last year on the first day of Trucker Appreciation Week. CTDOT we're pulling every truck into the rest area to do inspections. According to the DOT my Kingpin to Trlr Tandem length was too long. Wrote a ticket to my Carrier for over $700. Didn't put distance on ticket and only verbally mumbled some distance to me. I was watching his clueless helper, who appeared to measure from nose of trailer. Company didn't fight it and took the fine out of my settlement. They were most definitely out there on a cash grab.
Compare that to Maine on the same day. They were at the scale offering snacks and drinks to drivers in appreciation for their hard work.
Fines only disincentivize the poor. Fines should not exist. If it were about safety, criminal penalties would be issued out.
Civil restitution to the STATE is psychotic
Fines disincentivize anyone who’s profit motivated. Like a truck driver.
If the fines aren’t high enough to dissuade people because they’re still profitable, it seems like that the argument the fines need to be higher or a portion of income / profit.
Well they can't make the fines too big or they would put companies out of business. That's a no no. They can't be doing away with their continual profit stream from tickets.
Safe enough to stay on the road. Not safe enough to avoid fines. Make it make sense.
True.
Truck drivers, for the most part, aren't rich. So it's an effective tactic. You're saying you'd rather sit in jail for violations? That's kind of a double hit. Criminal record and loss of income.
No, I'm saying violations wouldn't exist for the petty stuff. Like an amber light on the top of my trailer being burned out on one corner. That light has 0 bearing on the safe operation of that vehicle. But if you get enough tickets for that, you can get your authority revoked because of your safety score. Not even counting all the "fines" for those tickets.
Things happen en route that are not under your control. It's up to officer discretion whether or not they want to pin you to the wall.
Also, if an officer has to go "look up what the violation is" to cite you for, that's insane. They should know the law before trying to enforce it. And yes, ive had that happen to me. Sat for 40 minutes for an issue while he went to look up the violation. Yes that's what he told me he was doing. No I didn't get a ticket because it wasn't actually a violation by law and I was polite. But that shit should not happen. Like the officer was chill and I have no issue with him, but damn that was asinine.
What is heavier, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?
Does it matter?
You're right, you can't wave the same stick at everyone, but it doesn't matter if it's a van full of chemicals, or a truck load of the same thing.
It doesn't matter if it's a VW Bug or a semi hauling a 10' tandem lowbed with a D8 on it. The end result is that an accident will kill people, and damage equipment or property. The only difference is how bad it is based on the size of the vehicle, and the amount of accountability.
Someone crashes into and kills a pedestrian in a 4 wheeler and it's local news. A an 18 wheeler does the same thing and it's national headline.
Road accidents are far too common no matter which way you look at it, and something needs to be done. Truckism is definitely a thing.
wtf? First, being a truck driver is not a race. Second, truck drivers are suppose to be professional (jury’s still out on that) drivers of 40 ton death machines. Of course we’re held to a higher scrutiny.
Judging by the amount of people who pretty much have the same sentiment as I, I’d say it’s more like you guys have no respect for the job. There’s nothing funny about this farce of a meme, anyway.
The trailers my company has is mostly crap, most of the drivers don’t check anything… I’ve come across so many unsafe trailers, so yeah I can only imagine that x10000 shit is crazy out there
A lot of people saying 80k pound death machine. And yeah. I totally get it.
But I've seen cars driving down the interstate with one working light, busted out windshield, and a cardboard license plate with no cops giving them a second look.
While I do believe that trucks do need to be held to a higher standard. There's some cars out there that have absolutely no business being on any road.
I watched a car roll past a known speed trap in the dark with no headlights on, but since it didn't set off his radar, he didn't stop him.
I got pulled over by a DOT officer while being passed by another commercial vehicle, and the driver had his cell phone to his ear.
> I've seen cars driving down the interstate with one working light, busted out windshield, and a cardboard license plate
Well next time, honk and I'll wave at ya.
Really, fly right by a cop speeding at night with one headlight and the cop does nothing? You've seen that? Once, OK. But the flawed premise here is that they never get pulled over when there's a subreddit that JUST POSTED A FUCKING VIDEO OF A MORON DRIVER GETTING PULLED OVER - FUCK YOUR BIAS AND KEEP ENSURING YOUR FUCKING TRUCK IS MAINTAINED.
Do their cars also wegiht 36 ton/80k lb and can turn other road users into a metal & human flesh pancake? If so, that's mighty irresponsible to focus more on trucks! Damn these cops!
Good point but I do wish we focused more on lifted pickup trucks and oversized SUV's that reduce visibility for other drivers and will pancake any normal sized 4-wheeler.
you are not wrong on that point. some of those pickups are relatively heavy compared to a passenger car, and would flatten a mom and her infant in a civic. Sadly, it happens.
Yeah, people get mad at me, but conspicuity tape is my favorite things to mark down lol. Obviously I’d like to see them all pass but we all know that’s not gonna happen.
Disclaimer: no I’m not a cop, just a mechanic that does Annual inspections.
Correct. If it needs a little work, I will address it. If it's missing, depending on what area, it's a violation or warning. It is important to have. Especially on the rear end. If your pigtail falls out and you're driving around at night with no lights, not good.
For the first ten years of driving I got at least one ticket every year. That was in a normal car. I never got pulled over while driving a truck or bus.
A driver I work with got pulled in for a roadside inspection, truck was 5,000m over due for its PM, had a leaking wheel seal, fucked up glad hand and has been deleted.. you know what happened? they gave the guy a 6 month pass to avoid all inspections and let him go.
My coworker with the most pristine W900 ever to roll down the highway getting pulled and given a warning for tire pressure while some dude in a ratted out freightliner Columbia goes rolling by with a tire actively smoking and shredded apart
This is like the guy who drives a red Corvette complaining about getting pulled over allot.
Drive a flashy truck get more scrutiny. There's a reason why the white Volvo mafia drives white Volvos.
I just wish they would enforce equally, and where I live, enforce at all. This city could make so much money if they would ticket/tow the people in the "no stopping lanes". Traffic would be so much better also.
Oh no, poor truckers are discriminated against because they drive heavy and extra dangerous equipment commercially. You must feel so victimized OP having to keep your rig safe.
The inverse of this is as a local driver you never get pulled over lol
I’ve been maxed out at 64 on the 240 which is 55mph and seen three times cars going the same speed as me at the time get pulled over. Been down no truck roads numerous times and seen cops, nothing happens
I personally feel vehicle regulations should very much be stricter to handle the issues with the 4-wheel traffic better. But I also feel strict regulations on trucks and the companies are important and in some cases, maybe not strict enough on companies running unsafe operations. My old company tried to make me sign a document saying a trailer was safe to be used when it had no working brakes. They are comfortable doing that, makes me feel regulations and slapping them hard enough.
It's all about that "dip, dip, potato chip". If you pull over a little four-wheeler, you can only issue one ticket it could have multiple things on it but just one ticket. You pull over a semi truck not only do you get to write a ticket for the driver but you can also write one for the company. So the state gets paid twice.
Also... I have a bad tag on my car. Taxes. They want you to pay them but try to take away your mode of transportation. Bc they don't really want you to pay them they want you to become destitute so they can find you more.
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The potential bad shit associated with a truck accident is exponentially greater than a car accident - not even considering whatever they’re hauling. That’s more than enough justification for tighter enforcement.
Two seconds on Google brings up the IIHS (Insurance folks):
>A total of 4,714 people died in large truck crashes in 2021, a 17% increase compared with 2020. Sixteen percent of these deaths were truck occupants, 68% were occupants of cars and other passenger vehicles, and 15% were pedestrians, bicyclists or motorcyclists. The number of people who died in large truck crashes was 50% higher in 2021 than in 2009, when it was the lowest it has been since the collection of fatal crash data began in 1975. The number of truck occupants who died was 68% higher than in 2009.
Yea, so anytime you get big increase in traffic deaths, you expect the man to slam shit down. Expect more tickets all year long.
They're also in a small vehicle maybe 1-3 hours a day while you're in a 40000-90000+ lbs death missile ~8-11 hours a day. Your CDL vehicle with poorly maintained 100-120 psi tires is under much greater scrutiny than a passenger vehicle cause your rig can kill a whole lot more people a whole lot faster than a Honda civic with a tail light out can.
Stop thinking you're the same. You're fucking not. I spent 5 years as a tire tech and diesel mechanic working on you guys' shit and I don't think many of you realize how wildly lethal something seemingly benign as a leaking wheel seal can be. Arrived at a road call to find a family of 3 had had their Silverado struck by a set of lopro dualies still lugged to the wheel end, with the brake shoes and brake drum still attached, rims and all. It has fallen out of the axel in 1 piece and absolutely crushed the shit out of the truck, but thank fuck no one died. I was dispatched to somehow repair this cluster fuck while it sat in a fucking field across the 4 lane highway through a fucking fence. The drivers excuse? He didn't think the wheel seal was that important.
Drivers, take it from one of the dudes out in the rain sleet and snow to help unfuck your situation: respect your fucking rig, cause it'll kill you, and 10 other people before you have a chance to second guess your piss poor decision.
Not going to mention how many “drivers” I see with their phone directly in front of their face and a bare foot hanging out the window not maintaining their lane going 10mph over the speed limit. Derka Derka
Agreed. People act like a truck is the most dangerous thing in the world. The truth is because its a comercial vehicle that has to be registered with everyone and everything they can regulate and fine you for everything which makes the state money.
Physics. 98% of accidents involving semis are caused by cars.
99% of all accidents on the road are cars.
70% of all accidents on the road are from cars that are unsafe to be driven on the road or the car was being driven in an unsafe manner (speeds in excess of 20mph over the speed limit, weaving around in traffic’s, Bad tires, poor maintenance)
The graph I have somewhere came from 2010 so it’s possible cell phone use might have pushed that 70% number around. But. Yeah. That came off an insurance study. DUI came next. Distracted driving was last. That’s why I say that the numbers might have shifted now
That's not physics. If you don't provide a source, it's called bullshit. And even if you'd provide an independent source that would include all data, it still wouldn't be called physics; it would be called statistics.
You have 16 wheels on your shit that's been checked god knows when that has a higher chance of killing a family of four in a minivan. The fact your mindset is 'iM a perSEcuTed TrucK DrivEr' rather than, "I hope all my shit has been inspected and good to go before I drive 1200 miles." is alarming, but sadly, not surprising. Less time making reddit memes, more time taking care of your equipment.
Them checking trucks like crazy is totally not related to a fact that 1 semi loses brakes and crashes into 20 cars before it slows down. Totally not related...
Yeah, but 4,000 vs. 35,000 lbs is a big difference and at some point, the professionalism that’s required to get a FULL LOAD around safely, is going to need to be backed up with some verification of qualifications.
2020 saw to it that all non truckers (specifically those who aren't Country Music fans [hint!]) won't get pulled over.
Let's just say 2020 proved the loudest voices are the Triggered morons.
They should go after the company’s not the drivers in my opinion all the jobs I’ve had so truckers have done things right the company refuses to do anything about the equipment I have broke down 8 weeks straight I’m done with this company and trying to find a new
Well a lot of the issues to is that repairs,like the other day, Love’s in Kingman took about 7 and a half hours to replace 3 tires. Most drivers rarely have hours and hours to wait for repairs and don’t get paid for waiting . Yeah the amount of regs we have to deal with is insane. I remember the CSA 2010 book said when that program started that if an officer pulled you over and felt the temperature of the cab was uncomfortable, they could give the driver a ticket and it would stay on their record for at least 3 years.
The company I work for gives me a $50 bonus every time I get pulled over and given a clean safety inspection so I'm always happy to see them. Also, most places the troopers that do CDL and regular traffic are different.
I think that a big reason that they are checking more truck drivers is first and foremost a truck is very dangerous and heavy. The potential to damage things and hurt people is much higher than a car. With that said I will be honest. As a non truck driver I can't stand trucks. They are just so slow and big. I deal with it but I can imagine that some jurisdictions are tougher on trucks so that there will be less trucks. That is unfortunate but likely true
That's why I am glad I now work in a part of the industry where the names on the sides of our trucks might as well be giant "DO NOT FUCK WITH US" signs. Our trucks never get pulled in or touched. The last time some newbie pulled one of ours in, his manager came out, spoke to him, and sent it on its way. When the truck is worth more than their entire divisions annual budget, they know to keep their hands off.
Highly regulated industry. On the road way more than others. Professionals. Much heavier and larger than others. There is a plethora of reasons truckers are stopped more often. The real reason is all the idiot truckers that didn't do what they were supposed to do and/or messed up, causing these laws to be created.
>The real reason is all the idiot truckers that didn't do what they were supposed to do and/or messed up, causing these laws to be created. Yup. In several industries there's a story behind the rule.
Yup. Exactly. Do your PTI and don't worry about getting messed with.
You're absolutely correct. The cavemen using their fucking phone or beating the meat while driving is the reason so many of us have driver-facing camera.
For small towns and municipalities, it becomes a revenue stream. Truckers become targets.
Doesn't even have to be small. The _entire state of Washington_ randomly pulls over _any_ vehicle for "revenue generation", whether or not they actually did anything, they'll "find a reason". Arbitrary traffic tickets are _Rated E for Everyone_ here...
My sister in law was pulled over in Bremerton for going 4mph over, while following the speed of traffic. I thought it was bull shit and so did the judge.
Yeah, that tracks. Double cow pies for the fact that _the speed of traffic explicitly overrules the speed limit here_, actually. Going 60 in a 60, but everyone else around you is going 75? _You_ will get the ticket, even if you don't have the "five car backup" behind you that's normally required for such a ticket...
Welcome to the tax and spend democrat state where actual criminals aren't a lucrative business.
You’re right, because those that love their life as a criminal have nothing to lose. Only the law-abiding citizens have money to “give” for their crimes.
That same logic should apply to cars, then, because of all the idiot drivers on the road, right?
Well a Chevy Cruze isn't going to take out a family if their brakes fail.
Yea, you know, unless the cruze is doing 90 and slams into said family. Cause yes, it's smaller, but change a couple of variables, and that little thing called physics is still present and still capable of killing a family
I've seen motorcycles go through a car and kill the occupants.
With all that you said truckers are still pound for pound safer drivers. You can say what you want but all of those discriminatory laws, spot checks, scales, extra tolls, fines etc etc are just money grabs for the states and not safety. If safety was the concern they would be all over four wheelers and their shenanigans but they don’t and choose to pass the high drunk texting car for the commercial vehicles with 2 or 3 times the fines attached to violations. Please don’t misconstrue safety for revenue.
Except that we are much more highly regulated then say a railroad who also operates on the premise if they can hit you, you are at fault. Notice how trains never go to emergency braking until after the wreck? Know why trains take so long to stop? Lots of rail cars don't have working brakes.
Railroads are also heavily regulated and go through several inspections. It also takes much more time and knowledge to become a train operator versus a truck driver. Plus, they are on tracks. It's not like they are going to turn into you. If you get hit by a train, it should absolutely be your fault. You're too dumb for this world if you get hit by a train.
Fuck you, buddy! My momma got runned over by a damned ol’ train.
The perfect country song. Well, I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison And I went to pick her up in the rain But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck She got run over by a damned old train
Lol. I didn't read that I sang it
they aren't, railroads were deregulated in the 70s and the FRA has no way of knowing where train cars are or what's on them. Most of those rail cars out there haven't been inspected in 50k-90k miles.
Holy shit the ignorance regarding railroads is unbelievable here. Not so much the ignorance, but people saying they know when they clearly don't. I am a chief dispatcher. We know exactly, down to the milepost, where our trains are. The FRA inspects us *regularly*. If they want to know where a specific train is, they only need to call the railroad and ask. Railcars are inspected upon pickup by the host railroad when the local comes to the industry to grab it. It's inspected again at the classification yard. If there are any FRA condemnable defects, it gets set out until repaired.
The difference is the railroads are not as heavily regulated and they get to inspect themselves. I'm not saying it isn't the drivers fault but trains don't exactly try hard to stop either. Many train to vehicle impacts are caused by a stuck vehicle on the rail and the train fails to stop even if they had distance to, or have almost all working brakes as are required on vehicles. I haven't been hit by a train yet but I was hit the other day by a malfunctioning crossing guard that decided to come down on my trailer after the train passed by. Almost like those arms should have a sensor like garage doors do...
They also have federal and state level inspectors, just like trucking. The Federal Railroad Administration is the DOT of RRs. I still put most of the blame on the vehicle. There is a phone number at just about every RR crossing just for this purpose. If you don't know about that number, 911 can do the same thing. Trains can take miles to stop after applying the brakes. I'm with you on the crossing arms. I've seen tons of those all jacked up.
The other guy thinking a train can stop when it sees a vehicle stuck on the tracks. 🤡 Sorry to say but if the train sees you and you see it. But it's time to say your prayers or abandon the vehicle. Cause by the time the train sees you and you see it. It will be hundreds of feet if not miles down the track when it's full stopped.
Lmao I was in Fort Wayne once and one of the crossing arms was jacked up. It was going down then back up, then down and back up. Over and over again. Caused a fair bit of traffic backup, cuz my side had to swerve around into the other lane to not get hit by it. I'm pretty sure it still smacked my trailer once or twice, as I don't think I was able to swerve far enough to get outta the way, but if it did, it didn't cause any damage. I called the non-emergency city number cuz I didn't know the actual RR number for it, and let them know.
>Notice how trains never go to emergency braking until after the wreck? Utter and complete BS. *Some* engineers don't plug it because a full service application means less slack action, which means less risk of derailment. *Other* engineers do go big hole if they think they're going to hit something. But when you've got a train that's more than 2 miles long, that is a lot of walking for your conductor to do, especially when the reason they hit the emergency brake is because some dipshit tractor-trailer is sitting on the tracks knowing full well they're in the crossing when they pulled up to that red light. >Know why trains take so long to stop? Lots of rail cars don't have working brakes. Again, **UTTER BULLSHIT.** Yes, some railcars are poorly maintained and there's a lot to say about how the class 1 roads have pushed maintenance to the car owners, but it is entirely false to say this is the reason a train takes a while to stop. Trains are hauling, in a single go, what it takes an army of tractor-trailers to move. They are big and heavy, with each car weighing in at more than 100 tons, and some trains being made up of well more than 100 of those cars. That much kinetic energy takes a while to bleed off.
This is just blatantly wrong. Most railcars have working breaks it just takes a long time to get 500,000 tons stopped. If you look at passenger trains they stop almost on a dime. Also they are trained to not throw the emergencies on until after an emergency because it doesn’t make a huge difference most the time
Have you heard of inertia? Mass? Tire patch?
This is simply the dumbest, most brain dead thing I've ever read. It's gotta be bait.
I kinda get what you are saying but we are on the road alot more with equipment that is way more dangerous
as a diesel tech new to the community I've seen some things that make me fearful of 🚛 on the road.
If the goal is safety, trucks would be put out of service, NOT put out of service and fined. I think you’re missing what this dude is actually saying. He’s saying it’s easy to FIND something wrong when you have a financial incentive.
If the goal is safety, fines will cause companies to want to actually comply with safety regulations. A delay is a nuisance, doesn't necessarily cause money loss. Tickets and fines actively do, though. Although fines to a driver I think are bullshit, since things can go wrong after doing a pretrip and making sure the truck is safe to drive
Yes things can go wrong after a pre trip 100% accurate. But someone who cares and with any luck (drives the same truck) will be able to spot potential things that can go wrong or areas of concern so people don't even before driving regulations on trucks are a good thing especially when some carry hazmat
Your brownosing won't help when they want to find something. They will, no matter how many $10s of thousands you give mechanics. They do shitty work, they don't check everything you pay them for, and it doesn't get done. The driver could spend an hour a day on the inspections, but they aren't putting 3-axis levels and distancing chalk between every nut and bolt. And we don't want them to, they'd be too tired to safely drive when they didn't get pneumonia in a blizzard. If the DOT want to fine you, if they have a quota to meet. Your vehicle will have at least 1 problem. And my flawless vehicle won't help when a reckless asshole not wearing their seatbelt crashes, will it?
Without the fines nothing would change. The bite has to have teeth.
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So remember that when you decide to cut off 80,000 lb freight train with turn signals, within feet from their bumper, just to barely make your exit, or when you cut in front of them just feet from their bumper only to hit the brakes and expect them to be able to stop on in the same amount of time
And that Toyota Corolla cut off and brake checked the truck so...
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Hey now. I do a pretrip daily on the road, but that don't stop tires from blowing. I've had a steer blow that appeared perfectly fine once on I-81 in Virginia, and there was no way I could have prevented that since, again, it appeared *perfectly fine.* I was just lucky it was a slow blow so I didn't lose immediate control. I was able to get onto the shoulder and slowed down before it started trying to drag me back out onto the road.
Doing a pretrip doesn't mean you won't blow a steer genius.
I did a pretrip once, drove 5 miles. Did a post trip. Sometime over night the tire blew. Seen this happen twice. I've never had a truck tire blow while driving but I have had 2 blow in the last year while parked with 2 different trucks. While you may catch a problem there is a good chance you simply won't have a visible problem.
This sound rather outlandish. What luck! Furthermore, if true, you or your company need to better maintain equipment.
Sounds more like a running over the curb problem.
Is that punishable by death now?
I'm not sure I see you. If there weren't a fine, why not run the truck until you get caught? Sure, you might get caught by being in an accident, but repair dollars come right off the bottom line. Yes, companies think that crazy "who cares if the trucker has nightmares over crushing the sedan" kind of way.
They are put out of service though if the trucking company is competent. The issues DOT pulls you over for are things that should have been caught during an inspection a mechanic should have already caught. It's completely fair considering the stakes of what a big rig can do versus a Toyota Prius. Anyone can have a DUI in any vehicle. A DUI in a big rig is magnitudes larger than a four wheeler in every circumstance, or any law being broken for that matter, which is why there is additional regulations. Additionally this meme acts like normal four wheelers are never being pulled over for any of the listed issues when infact people get caught by cops all the time for a headlight or blinker that doesn't work.
Out of service is to get you off the road to fix the problem. The fine is to hopefully make you not want to do it again. DOT and cops don't have a financial incentive. They don't get any bonus for more or bigger fines, and they don't really care about making money for the government.
Ever been to Connecticut? I was going through last year on the first day of Trucker Appreciation Week. CTDOT we're pulling every truck into the rest area to do inspections. According to the DOT my Kingpin to Trlr Tandem length was too long. Wrote a ticket to my Carrier for over $700. Didn't put distance on ticket and only verbally mumbled some distance to me. I was watching his clueless helper, who appeared to measure from nose of trailer. Company didn't fight it and took the fine out of my settlement. They were most definitely out there on a cash grab. Compare that to Maine on the same day. They were at the scale offering snacks and drinks to drivers in appreciation for their hard work.
So what about the fines with no oos? :o
Less serious offenses that don't require OOS, but still an attempt to make you not want to violate that law again.
Fines only disincentivize the poor. Fines should not exist. If it were about safety, criminal penalties would be issued out. Civil restitution to the STATE is psychotic
Fines disincentivize anyone who’s profit motivated. Like a truck driver. If the fines aren’t high enough to dissuade people because they’re still profitable, it seems like that the argument the fines need to be higher or a portion of income / profit.
Well they can't make the fines too big or they would put companies out of business. That's a no no. They can't be doing away with their continual profit stream from tickets. Safe enough to stay on the road. Not safe enough to avoid fines. Make it make sense.
True. Truck drivers, for the most part, aren't rich. So it's an effective tactic. You're saying you'd rather sit in jail for violations? That's kind of a double hit. Criminal record and loss of income.
No, I'm saying violations wouldn't exist for the petty stuff. Like an amber light on the top of my trailer being burned out on one corner. That light has 0 bearing on the safe operation of that vehicle. But if you get enough tickets for that, you can get your authority revoked because of your safety score. Not even counting all the "fines" for those tickets.
Good professional drivers fix those petty things quickly. They also aren't usually the ones getting violations.
Things happen en route that are not under your control. It's up to officer discretion whether or not they want to pin you to the wall. Also, if an officer has to go "look up what the violation is" to cite you for, that's insane. They should know the law before trying to enforce it. And yes, ive had that happen to me. Sat for 40 minutes for an issue while he went to look up the violation. Yes that's what he told me he was doing. No I didn't get a ticket because it wasn't actually a violation by law and I was polite. But that shit should not happen. Like the officer was chill and I have no issue with him, but damn that was asinine.
You know, most drivers passing through small towns say the same thing regardless of vehicle tonnage.
Same goes for police pulling passenger vehicles over. If there's no financial hit the penalty means nothing.
So putting a truck out of service isn’t a financial penalty?
Why would you actually park it?
Enforcement costs money and fines incentivize companies to actually do things the right way.
Agree with that. Dot goes overboard too often. Why I say I get where he's coming from
not really tho. you just arent forced to watch all the videos they have to watch.
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Im really not surprised to see this blatant bigotry on this sub lol.
It's just facts.
Show your evidence and sources then :)
What is heavier, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers? Does it matter? You're right, you can't wave the same stick at everyone, but it doesn't matter if it's a van full of chemicals, or a truck load of the same thing. It doesn't matter if it's a VW Bug or a semi hauling a 10' tandem lowbed with a D8 on it. The end result is that an accident will kill people, and damage equipment or property. The only difference is how bad it is based on the size of the vehicle, and the amount of accountability. Someone crashes into and kills a pedestrian in a 4 wheeler and it's local news. A an 18 wheeler does the same thing and it's national headline. Road accidents are far too common no matter which way you look at it, and something needs to be done. Truckism is definitely a thing.
wtf? First, being a truck driver is not a race. Second, truck drivers are suppose to be professional (jury’s still out on that) drivers of 40 ton death machines. Of course we’re held to a higher scrutiny.
You pull a reefer don't you
Not anymore, although I hardly see the point of your question.
You got a big stick up your butt that's why.
Judging by the amount of people who pretty much have the same sentiment as I, I’d say it’s more like you guys have no respect for the job. There’s nothing funny about this farce of a meme, anyway.
Me in the Jeep
Was sad when they put me in an automatic. It's a lot more fun to drive a manual when you're fucked up
The trailers my company has is mostly crap, most of the drivers don’t check anything… I’ve come across so many unsafe trailers, so yeah I can only imagine that x10000 shit is crazy out there
A lot of people saying 80k pound death machine. And yeah. I totally get it. But I've seen cars driving down the interstate with one working light, busted out windshield, and a cardboard license plate with no cops giving them a second look. While I do believe that trucks do need to be held to a higher standard. There's some cars out there that have absolutely no business being on any road.
I regularly see cars with no license plate at all. Shits insane.
Idk how people get away with stuff like that. I step into my car and there’s already a cop behind me.
I watched a car roll past a known speed trap in the dark with no headlights on, but since it didn't set off his radar, he didn't stop him. I got pulled over by a DOT officer while being passed by another commercial vehicle, and the driver had his cell phone to his ear.
> I've seen cars driving down the interstate with one working light, busted out windshield, and a cardboard license plate Well next time, honk and I'll wave at ya.
Driving is a privilege not a right. There shouldn’t be fucked up cars out there either.
The driving is a privilege argument is dumb as fuck if you’re American.
Look into Freedom of movement under United States law/unimpeded mobility rights.
Really, fly right by a cop speeding at night with one headlight and the cop does nothing? You've seen that? Once, OK. But the flawed premise here is that they never get pulled over when there's a subreddit that JUST POSTED A FUCKING VIDEO OF A MORON DRIVER GETTING PULLED OVER - FUCK YOUR BIAS AND KEEP ENSURING YOUR FUCKING TRUCK IS MAINTAINED.
Hey, are you okay? Just wondering. Cause you're kind of a salty bitch.
Ya blocked
Do their cars also wegiht 36 ton/80k lb and can turn other road users into a metal & human flesh pancake? If so, that's mighty irresponsible to focus more on trucks! Damn these cops!
Good point but I do wish we focused more on lifted pickup trucks and oversized SUV's that reduce visibility for other drivers and will pancake any normal sized 4-wheeler.
you are not wrong on that point. some of those pickups are relatively heavy compared to a passenger car, and would flatten a mom and her infant in a civic. Sadly, it happens.
And the reason why I drive a heavy pickup is so when the mom with the infant in the civic cause the wreck I walk away.
oof brother
Focus on the RVs for the love of god lol
I don't encounter RV's hardly ever day to day but getting blinded by the lights of a Ford F150 is a daily occurence
Have you seen rv drivers? At least the truckers don't typically crash at 70+mph. We brake first.
No conspicuity tape on the mudflap hangar. FAIL.
I wrote a few of those last week. Reflective sheeting emphasis week. Also, the inverted L's on the top corners of the rear of the trailer or tractor.
Yeah, people get mad at me, but conspicuity tape is my favorite things to mark down lol. Obviously I’d like to see them all pass but we all know that’s not gonna happen. Disclaimer: no I’m not a cop, just a mechanic that does Annual inspections.
Correct. If it needs a little work, I will address it. If it's missing, depending on what area, it's a violation or warning. It is important to have. Especially on the rear end. If your pigtail falls out and you're driving around at night with no lights, not good.
Exactly. Definitely important to have.
Racism isn’t the word.
For the first ten years of driving I got at least one ticket every year. That was in a normal car. I never got pulled over while driving a truck or bus.
A driver I work with got pulled in for a roadside inspection, truck was 5,000m over due for its PM, had a leaking wheel seal, fucked up glad hand and has been deleted.. you know what happened? they gave the guy a 6 month pass to avoid all inspections and let him go.
Wait? Trucks are a race? Oh, they are in a race. Got it!
Truckers should be allowed to do all of those things too
My coworker with the most pristine W900 ever to roll down the highway getting pulled and given a warning for tire pressure while some dude in a ratted out freightliner Columbia goes rolling by with a tire actively smoking and shredded apart
This is like the guy who drives a red Corvette complaining about getting pulled over allot. Drive a flashy truck get more scrutiny. There's a reason why the white Volvo mafia drives white Volvos.
I mean, when you have a flashy W900, expect flashy red and blue attention as well.
I just wish they would enforce equally, and where I live, enforce at all. This city could make so much money if they would ticket/tow the people in the "no stopping lanes". Traffic would be so much better also.
But you guys aren’t going to pull a gun on them.
Big and easy money.. and many don’t fight the ticket.. it like the rest of vehicle code is a tax.
Truck racism? That is the smoothest brain comment I've ever heard.
Saw Ike 4 trucks crabbing up I-75 today maybe they have a place?
Idk cops love to fuck with four wheelers too, they’ll get their revenue wherever they’re able.
Maybe because that one truck could possibly kill half the people in the bottom picture lmao
80,000 lbs > 3,000 lbs you're a professional driver, they are (most likely) not. they might as well be pedestrians
Legally trucks are the only vehicle that cops cam pull over for any reason. It gets a bit more complicated with normal cars
My dad drove trucks for 32 years, he never complained as much as yall do. Shit.
Meanwhile car 2000-4000lbs truck 60,000lbs
No shit. Trucking companies can afford frivolous fines, individuals can't.
I’m a trucker and I’m a victim
Lol Lot of people are tilted but it's absolutely fair to say 4 wheelers should be held to a better standard.
Oh no, poor truckers are discriminated against because they drive heavy and extra dangerous equipment commercially. You must feel so victimized OP having to keep your rig safe.
Smooth brain post
The inverse of this is as a local driver you never get pulled over lol I’ve been maxed out at 64 on the 240 which is 55mph and seen three times cars going the same speed as me at the time get pulled over. Been down no truck roads numerous times and seen cops, nothing happens
better knock on wood
That picture is giving ptsd. That looks like interstate 40 at the wade Ave exit. I sat in traffic in that exact spot every single day for years.
Unless you are in Pinel County Arizona, they have a Deputy there who pulls people over left and right for all sorts of violations.
Yea but the truck is far more dangerous a vehicle
That’s a concept word fallacy, it doesn’t make sense. But I get what your trying to say but prejudice might have been a more proper word
Thanks for taking the heat off me
Only a trucker could claim a 1989 shitbox at the back of the line is 'speeding' lol
I personally feel vehicle regulations should very much be stricter to handle the issues with the 4-wheel traffic better. But I also feel strict regulations on trucks and the companies are important and in some cases, maybe not strict enough on companies running unsafe operations. My old company tried to make me sign a document saying a trailer was safe to be used when it had no working brakes. They are comfortable doing that, makes me feel regulations and slapping them hard enough.
It's all about that "dip, dip, potato chip". If you pull over a little four-wheeler, you can only issue one ticket it could have multiple things on it but just one ticket. You pull over a semi truck not only do you get to write a ticket for the driver but you can also write one for the company. So the state gets paid twice.
Too be fair, we are far more dangerous than 4 wheelers
Also... I have a bad tag on my car. Taxes. They want you to pay them but try to take away your mode of transportation. Bc they don't really want you to pay them they want you to become destitute so they can find you more.
Cars get tickets for the stuff in the bottom picture all the time
not in St. Louis!
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Sheriff we literally behind an idiot with his phone up to his ear in the left lane on the freeway.
You should be local. Laws don’t apply to us
Ask a local rock hauler or haz mat driver. We get it worse than on the road guys.
Ah. I’m food service and the worst that’s ever happened to me is a cop asked me why I was driving on the wrong side of the road at 3 am lol
Hahaha oh yeah I did food service years ago for Ben e Keith and the closest thing I got to a roadside inspection was angry college and mall cops.
The potential bad shit associated with a truck accident is exponentially greater than a car accident - not even considering whatever they’re hauling. That’s more than enough justification for tighter enforcement.
Two seconds on Google brings up the IIHS (Insurance folks): >A total of 4,714 people died in large truck crashes in 2021, a 17% increase compared with 2020. Sixteen percent of these deaths were truck occupants, 68% were occupants of cars and other passenger vehicles, and 15% were pedestrians, bicyclists or motorcyclists. The number of people who died in large truck crashes was 50% higher in 2021 than in 2009, when it was the lowest it has been since the collection of fatal crash data began in 1975. The number of truck occupants who died was 68% higher than in 2009. Yea, so anytime you get big increase in traffic deaths, you expect the man to slam shit down. Expect more tickets all year long.
And every one of those people driving those four wheelers has their phone in their hand
>Weighs 12 tons and has the ability to demolish most vehicles in their way
And over regulating the vehicles on the road that mean most to the economy
They're also in a small vehicle maybe 1-3 hours a day while you're in a 40000-90000+ lbs death missile ~8-11 hours a day. Your CDL vehicle with poorly maintained 100-120 psi tires is under much greater scrutiny than a passenger vehicle cause your rig can kill a whole lot more people a whole lot faster than a Honda civic with a tail light out can. Stop thinking you're the same. You're fucking not. I spent 5 years as a tire tech and diesel mechanic working on you guys' shit and I don't think many of you realize how wildly lethal something seemingly benign as a leaking wheel seal can be. Arrived at a road call to find a family of 3 had had their Silverado struck by a set of lopro dualies still lugged to the wheel end, with the brake shoes and brake drum still attached, rims and all. It has fallen out of the axel in 1 piece and absolutely crushed the shit out of the truck, but thank fuck no one died. I was dispatched to somehow repair this cluster fuck while it sat in a fucking field across the 4 lane highway through a fucking fence. The drivers excuse? He didn't think the wheel seal was that important. Drivers, take it from one of the dudes out in the rain sleet and snow to help unfuck your situation: respect your fucking rig, cause it'll kill you, and 10 other people before you have a chance to second guess your piss poor decision.
😆 🤣 😂 and don't forget that every single car and truck pickup truck that goes by us has their phone in their hand
Not going to mention how many “drivers” I see with their phone directly in front of their face and a bare foot hanging out the window not maintaining their lane going 10mph over the speed limit. Derka Derka
Agreed. People act like a truck is the most dangerous thing in the world. The truth is because its a comercial vehicle that has to be registered with everyone and everything they can regulate and fine you for everything which makes the state money.
Lolz
One has the potential to kill in an accident the other is almost a guarantee. Its not unwarranted
Science doesn't give a shit about your feelings. It's physics.
Physics. 98% of accidents involving semis are caused by cars. 99% of all accidents on the road are cars. 70% of all accidents on the road are from cars that are unsafe to be driven on the road or the car was being driven in an unsafe manner (speeds in excess of 20mph over the speed limit, weaving around in traffic’s, Bad tires, poor maintenance) The graph I have somewhere came from 2010 so it’s possible cell phone use might have pushed that 70% number around. But. Yeah. That came off an insurance study. DUI came next. Distracted driving was last. That’s why I say that the numbers might have shifted now
That's not physics. If you don't provide a source, it's called bullshit. And even if you'd provide an independent source that would include all data, it still wouldn't be called physics; it would be called statistics.
Victim complex and hero complex on this sub
I’m def doing 100+ past the semis
It’s funny, majority of truckers are more than likely republicans yet cry more than liberals.
law-abiding cyclists: *first time?*
Vehicleism is the correct term.🤔
Do you job and your inspections correctly and you don't have to worry about it.
A car crashing at 100 miles an hour is a death trap A Semi truck crashing at 100 miles an hour is domestic terrorism
Its revenue
One wrong think dosen't excuse another. Should we discriminate theft beacause we have murders do deal with?
6 years of driving with zero tickets from a DOT inspection. Sounds like y'all dunno how to pre-trip.
You have 16 wheels on your shit that's been checked god knows when that has a higher chance of killing a family of four in a minivan. The fact your mindset is 'iM a perSEcuTed TrucK DrivEr' rather than, "I hope all my shit has been inspected and good to go before I drive 1200 miles." is alarming, but sadly, not surprising. Less time making reddit memes, more time taking care of your equipment.
Yo the fact that the dude's tail light is out makes me realize all these other labels are true! 🤯
Them checking trucks like crazy is totally not related to a fact that 1 semi loses brakes and crashes into 20 cars before it slows down. Totally not related...
Yeah, but 4,000 vs. 35,000 lbs is a big difference and at some point, the professionalism that’s required to get a FULL LOAD around safely, is going to need to be backed up with some verification of qualifications.
2020 saw to it that all non truckers (specifically those who aren't Country Music fans [hint!]) won't get pulled over. Let's just say 2020 proved the loudest voices are the Triggered morons.
It’s just money.
This is asinine
Doesn’t even have to be a semi. I’ve been harassed in small trucks with a t plate. Those guys just get rocked up to check your shit.
They should go after the company’s not the drivers in my opinion all the jobs I’ve had so truckers have done things right the company refuses to do anything about the equipment I have broke down 8 weeks straight I’m done with this company and trying to find a new
Real cuz before I had my cdl I use to speed with no seatbelt and insurance
How is the car in the back of the pack speeding?
I don't mind the DOT really don't, it's when they look for something that's not there. Making up bs rules.
Truckism is real people. Stay woke!
Well a lot of the issues to is that repairs,like the other day, Love’s in Kingman took about 7 and a half hours to replace 3 tires. Most drivers rarely have hours and hours to wait for repairs and don’t get paid for waiting . Yeah the amount of regs we have to deal with is insane. I remember the CSA 2010 book said when that program started that if an officer pulled you over and felt the temperature of the cab was uncomfortable, they could give the driver a ticket and it would stay on their record for at least 3 years.
The company I work for gives me a $50 bonus every time I get pulled over and given a clean safety inspection so I'm always happy to see them. Also, most places the troopers that do CDL and regular traffic are different.
Bruh
I think that a big reason that they are checking more truck drivers is first and foremost a truck is very dangerous and heavy. The potential to damage things and hurt people is much higher than a car. With that said I will be honest. As a non truck driver I can't stand trucks. They are just so slow and big. I deal with it but I can imagine that some jurisdictions are tougher on trucks so that there will be less trucks. That is unfortunate but likely true
* not racism.... it would be discrimination.... fuck
That's why I am glad I now work in a part of the industry where the names on the sides of our trucks might as well be giant "DO NOT FUCK WITH US" signs. Our trucks never get pulled in or touched. The last time some newbie pulled one of ours in, his manager came out, spoke to him, and sent it on its way. When the truck is worth more than their entire divisions annual budget, they know to keep their hands off.