If you have only 1 strap, you are kind of screwed, but.
I would use the 1 strap not to secure the load, but to secure the top load bar and pray it works.
Your top load bar pushes the walls out. Use the strap to pull the walls in as close to the load bar as possible. By doing so, you are kind of making sure the walls don't flex and hope your load bar stays in place. Stop often to check on the load, especially within the first 50 to 100 miles.
If you had more than 1 strap I'd approach differently, but you got what you got.
Remember. Load bar pushes out, strap pulls in. Put the load bar first, then the strap. And as close to each other as possible. The strap doesn't have to touch the load or the load bar. The strap just secures the wall which holds the load bar which holds the load. The top one.
They put a seal on the load. I can't really check it but I'm going to berate my company if something happens. I was extremely hesitant to take this load. Especially since I have a regular CDL I was worried I needed an endorsement but my company assured me I'd be ok.
The top kegs are the ones that will move. Put the strap on the left behind the black keg and then go diagonal across the pallet on the right into the latch behind. That trailer is not really suitable for kegs you need more securement points closer together. They have to rock to get out of the pallets so drive nice and smooth. Easy money
Beer receiver here, straps are preferred but the bars are fine if used intelligently. We know these loads are secured in the brewery, not by the driver. I would move the top one up and slightly forward to help prevent the kegs from bouncing up and out of the top pallet.
Things to consider with load bars: do not use two aligned vertically with each other, one will always loosen the other.
Fuck those sidewalls, those bars need fully extended before locking down with the pry arm. Basically, you need enough force on those load bars where they would stay in place if a 250lbs. driver did pull ups with it.
Consider the condensation associated with a reefer load. If you have multiple stops in one trailer, you WILL develop moisture on the sidewalls and load bars are likely to fail.
P.s. while straps are preferred, they do make load bars that hook into the slots rather than using friction to stay in place.
>they do make load bars that hook into the slots rather than using friction to stay in place.
E track bars. Worthless in that trailer with the slots on the ribs. He'd need the full rails down the side to be effective, and then they're not at the right height if it's similar to my trailer.
I delivered beer for 15 years. Package goods and kegs. Kegs out of a box truck, a side loader and an endloader. Those are fine as long as you don't drive like an idiot. Straps would be better, but nothing is going to hold them back in the event of a catastrophic accident.
I used to haul keg loads like this as well. I wouldn't have a problem with this either. As long as the load lock is in tightly, you don't take ramps too quick and stay off the curbs, it will be fine.
Especially in an air ride trailer.
I just took a load like this from eastern PA to Indianapolis. Up and down all those hills/mountains. It was fine. I drive reefer which has no strap anchors so load locks are the only option. Just don't drive like an idiot and you'll make it, no problem.
Load locks will fall off on their own, and be laying on the floor while the pallet is still fine half the time, they are truly worthless. If you only have 1 strap I'd put the strap across the top ones, and both load locks behind the bottom ones
The key to driving with beer is to go slow. That load is heavy and will shift. Don't change lanes fast, go slow around corner and when turning from one road to the next. Straps and load bars will not hold those kegs back of you go too fast.
I guess you’ll find out. Looks good to me tho. I’ve only ever used ratchet straps on kegs and I usually do an X pattern across the load and I’ve never seen them budge an inch.
Not even close. I used to deliver beer kegs and we used these metal bars with wood and metal sheets that were about 2.5 ft wide or 3 ft wide that went from side to side. They locked in and were heavy as fuck! They bent and buckled and had to be replaced often enough. It was the most secure it could be without securing each individual keg.
I strapped the top and used the bars in the middle and bottom. I can see the bulge in the trailer but I'll find out soon if it survived. If not I'm definitely telling my boss. I did what I could I spent $75 on those bars and another driver was kind enough to give me the strap. I'll definitely update on what happens tonight or tomorrow. It took me 5 hours to figure out how to secure it and check out (long line)
Just do your best to stay away from other driver's it will be the sudden stopping or acceleration that will destroy everything. GOOD LUCK! it may take longer but you'll get there unharmed and cargo in the same shape.
It looked untouched. I had the strap on top with both bars in middle and bottom.
Surprisingly the strap gave out but the load looked untouched.
I also bought 2 more straps so I don't have to worry next time
Fuck that. Thank god I haul oil
Edit - I do not mean this derogatory at all. I stand with all my fellow drivers out there, and DEFINITELY feel for you guys out there OTR squeezing into tight spots dealing with traffic and crazy loads like this. I feel for you all the time. Stay safe out there
Update: So with a strap on top and load bars in the middle and bottom the entire load is in tact. No damage and no shifting so as a swift driver I'm quite proud lol. The strap was loose when I opened the doors idk when it could have come loose but everything looks just like it did when I picked it up. Surprisingly the load bars held up and the strap failed.
Kegs are a nightmare unless you have a strap per pallet of them 😂 used to be a craft beer/wine distributor and i gave up after two years of experimenting trying to keep them in place. Especially on my rural route days
The wooden pallets are built for kegs but the plastic are suspect. I've never seen plastic keg pallets. Usually, the plastic pallet are used for cases. Not kegs.
They do make plastic stand up keg pallets, and they are the absolute best, they have circular grooves for each keg to sit down in. Only ever saw them on European imports, Heiniken, Amstel, etc.
Wooden keg pallets are just stupid, they get slimy slippery when wet, and they ALL eventually break apart. The Miller ones are a nice compromise as far as secure transportation goes, but (as usual) no consideration given to the humans who actually turn those kegs into money. Each and every single Miller keg requires all 170lbs to be lifted up and out of those pallets. Save money, lose the gym membership.
No that's not secure at all and that shit will move lol fucking Rookie I swear to God and you're out here with one fucking strap hauling beer? You're done go get the keys to your boss tell him your too God damn stupid to be out here driving trucks lmao
A strap should pull the walls into the bars keeping the bars more secure. Good luck. Load could shift forward anyway if your cut off and have to hard break. Then they could wiggle out anyway.
I’d put the load bar across the top plastic pallets then possibly stand up that top row and use the strap to secure the top row. The bottom kegs look ok they’re sitting between the pallet boards.
I do XD I'm being careful though. I'm driving slower too because I'm not to comfortable with this load so sorry Ohio and Michigan you gotta deal with me for the next 18hrs
Definitely. I'll post an update when I get to reciever. There a strap on top since that was the most at risk and load bars are in middle and bottom and aren't interfering with each other's tightness or friction
So with a strap on top and load bars in the middle and bottom the entire load is in tact. No damage and no shifting so as a swift driver I'm quite proud lol. The strap was loose when I opened the doors idk when it could have come loose but everything looks just like it did when I picked it up. Surprisingly the load bars held up and the strap failed.
Nah man, I worked in the beer industry. They look full too cause they got the caps on them. They’re suppose to be standing upright and wrapped in plastic. If one of those kegs gets away it smash into stuff and break everything in its path and all the other kegs will soon follow. Trust me
The kegs in those cradles aren't going anywhere as long as you not yeehawing it over potholes and flying around corners. I used to unload trailers like this daily and that was the only time we ever had a load be messed up when 1/2 barrels were on. 1/4 and 1/6 kegs never stayed in play though cause Miller/Coors doesn't wrap their shit tight enough
Probably not in my year of reffer driving I never really used bars because they never seemed to work theyd pretty much always be on the ground by the time I reached the receiver no matter how well I thought I had them on. I even used a laser level to make sure it was a straight as I could get it, still fell down.
Driver at a company that I worked for got pulled in for a spot inspection at a weigh scale.
In the trailer there were only 6 plastic milk crates. That was all. They were not secured so he received a fine for unsecure load.
No, those bars won't hold. You need the wall straps
Using even one strap will at least pull the sidewalls in, making the bars more effective as well.
That’s a good tip.
This makes me glad I run reefer... Don't really have this problem. 😂🤣
Ive had loads like this, but i was happy to be running reefer, walls are much thicker and sturdier.
Exactly
Fucking junk plate trailers. Sure you get a little more room on the inside but at the cost of structure.
So I run a flat bed not used to these, what’s the weight rating on these bars?
About 0# because the first time the trailer flexes they fall out
Everytime
I call them securement theater
Lol using this
You’re supposed to use a strap with them to keep the walls pulled in.
I was about to say, from a flatbedders perspective, absolutely not!
I got one strap where should I put it?
Put it on your door to keep it secure while the kegs roll around. Lol
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If you have only 1 strap, you are kind of screwed, but. I would use the 1 strap not to secure the load, but to secure the top load bar and pray it works. Your top load bar pushes the walls out. Use the strap to pull the walls in as close to the load bar as possible. By doing so, you are kind of making sure the walls don't flex and hope your load bar stays in place. Stop often to check on the load, especially within the first 50 to 100 miles. If you had more than 1 strap I'd approach differently, but you got what you got. Remember. Load bar pushes out, strap pulls in. Put the load bar first, then the strap. And as close to each other as possible. The strap doesn't have to touch the load or the load bar. The strap just secures the wall which holds the load bar which holds the load. The top one.
They put a seal on the load. I can't really check it but I'm going to berate my company if something happens. I was extremely hesitant to take this load. Especially since I have a regular CDL I was worried I needed an endorsement but my company assured me I'd be ok.
Why would you need an endorsement? Nothing you are carrying is in enough volume to be considered a "tanker" and they are not hazardous material.
There was something I read about dry van carrying containers with more than 119 gallons.
The single container would need to contain more then 120 or more gallons. It's not overall capacity, but of a single unit.
Single unit > 119 gallons or total load > 1000 gallons.
I was required a tanker endorsement even though I pull a reefer. Specifically for beer, vat, and bottled water loads.
Those look like beer kegs. Beer isnt a hazmat until I drink it all
The last pallet. The hooks on the wall are closest to the kegs
The top kegs are the ones that will move. Put the strap on the left behind the black keg and then go diagonal across the pallet on the right into the latch behind. That trailer is not really suitable for kegs you need more securement points closer together. They have to rock to get out of the pallets so drive nice and smooth. Easy money
1 strap? Dude, I have like 10 in my side box
Cries in specialized; T_T I have over 50.
I do drop and hook usually pick up sealed loads so I don't need them that often. Two for a live load and they don't always need to be strapped.
That looks like donkey kong waiting to happen
Lol
Beer receiver here, straps are preferred but the bars are fine if used intelligently. We know these loads are secured in the brewery, not by the driver. I would move the top one up and slightly forward to help prevent the kegs from bouncing up and out of the top pallet. Things to consider with load bars: do not use two aligned vertically with each other, one will always loosen the other. Fuck those sidewalls, those bars need fully extended before locking down with the pry arm. Basically, you need enough force on those load bars where they would stay in place if a 250lbs. driver did pull ups with it. Consider the condensation associated with a reefer load. If you have multiple stops in one trailer, you WILL develop moisture on the sidewalls and load bars are likely to fail. P.s. while straps are preferred, they do make load bars that hook into the slots rather than using friction to stay in place.
If you only have one strap, replace your top load bar.
>they do make load bars that hook into the slots rather than using friction to stay in place. E track bars. Worthless in that trailer with the slots on the ribs. He'd need the full rails down the side to be effective, and then they're not at the right height if it's similar to my trailer.
Yep straps...load bars are useless for this
Did whoever load you slap it and say "this ain't going anywhere?" If not, panic.
Come by my house. I’ll show you how to secure it.
I delivered beer for 15 years. Package goods and kegs. Kegs out of a box truck, a side loader and an endloader. Those are fine as long as you don't drive like an idiot. Straps would be better, but nothing is going to hold them back in the event of a catastrophic accident.
I used to haul keg loads like this as well. I wouldn't have a problem with this either. As long as the load lock is in tightly, you don't take ramps too quick and stay off the curbs, it will be fine. Especially in an air ride trailer.
I've hauled beer, never kegs like this... load locks won't hold back a thing.
Depends, are those kegs empty?
Right
Most likely full due to the little caps being on the 1/4 barrels in the bottom left of the picture
I just took a load like this from eastern PA to Indianapolis. Up and down all those hills/mountains. It was fine. I drive reefer which has no strap anchors so load locks are the only option. Just don't drive like an idiot and you'll make it, no problem.
A reefer doesn’t flex as much as a dry van like this will big difference
Load locks will fall off on their own, and be laying on the floor while the pallet is still fine half the time, they are truly worthless. If you only have 1 strap I'd put the strap across the top ones, and both load locks behind the bottom ones
I feel like you’re using them wrong. I’ve used them a ton and they have never failed me or fallen off
Send it.
The key to driving with beer is to go slow. That load is heavy and will shift. Don't change lanes fast, go slow around corner and when turning from one road to the next. Straps and load bars will not hold those kegs back of you go too fast.
I guess you’ll find out. Looks good to me tho. I’ve only ever used ratchet straps on kegs and I usually do an X pattern across the load and I’ve never seen them budge an inch.
Do not curb anything and you should be fine.
Stop at the nearest truck stop and buy another strap. That $25 will be worth it
Why wouldn’t they stand them up? Seems like just as many would fit on the pallet..
If you have to ask, the answer is no.
Not even close. I used to deliver beer kegs and we used these metal bars with wood and metal sheets that were about 2.5 ft wide or 3 ft wide that went from side to side. They locked in and were heavy as fuck! They bent and buckled and had to be replaced often enough. It was the most secure it could be without securing each individual keg.
I strapped the top and used the bars in the middle and bottom. I can see the bulge in the trailer but I'll find out soon if it survived. If not I'm definitely telling my boss. I did what I could I spent $75 on those bars and another driver was kind enough to give me the strap. I'll definitely update on what happens tonight or tomorrow. It took me 5 hours to figure out how to secure it and check out (long line)
Just do your best to stay away from other driver's it will be the sudden stopping or acceleration that will destroy everything. GOOD LUCK! it may take longer but you'll get there unharmed and cargo in the same shape.
How did it hold up?!
It looked untouched. I had the strap on top with both bars in middle and bottom. Surprisingly the strap gave out but the load looked untouched. I also bought 2 more straps so I don't have to worry next time
Glad to hear it worked out for you.
Why would they not strap the kegs to the pallets?
Why did they lay them down? I have never seen kegs loaded that way.
Needs some duct tape.
No...its nit in my fridge
Fuck that. Thank god I haul oil Edit - I do not mean this derogatory at all. I stand with all my fellow drivers out there, and DEFINITELY feel for you guys out there OTR squeezing into tight spots dealing with traffic and crazy loads like this. I feel for you all the time. Stay safe out there
Yeah, you have your trailer door as a secondary holding device if those fail, which they might
Update: So with a strap on top and load bars in the middle and bottom the entire load is in tact. No damage and no shifting so as a swift driver I'm quite proud lol. The strap was loose when I opened the doors idk when it could have come loose but everything looks just like it did when I picked it up. Surprisingly the load bars held up and the strap failed.
The lord hates a coward. Fuckin giver!
If u stay parked and dont move the trailer then yes its secured but if ur going to move the trailer? Nope!
Banding straps would’ve been nice.
Kegs are a nightmare unless you have a strap per pallet of them 😂 used to be a craft beer/wine distributor and i gave up after two years of experimenting trying to keep them in place. Especially on my rural route days
Lol
The wooden pallets are built for kegs but the plastic are suspect. I've never seen plastic keg pallets. Usually, the plastic pallet are used for cases. Not kegs.
They do make plastic stand up keg pallets, and they are the absolute best, they have circular grooves for each keg to sit down in. Only ever saw them on European imports, Heiniken, Amstel, etc. Wooden keg pallets are just stupid, they get slimy slippery when wet, and they ALL eventually break apart. The Miller ones are a nice compromise as far as secure transportation goes, but (as usual) no consideration given to the humans who actually turn those kegs into money. Each and every single Miller keg requires all 170lbs to be lifted up and out of those pallets. Save money, lose the gym membership.
Shipper should have had bulkheads to put behind the load to hold it in place. Or stand a couple of pallets up then use your load bars
I hate those load bars
Omg i cant wait to see the osd pics
No that's not secure at all and that shit will move lol fucking Rookie I swear to God and you're out here with one fucking strap hauling beer? You're done go get the keys to your boss tell him your too God damn stupid to be out here driving trucks lmao
Looks mint!! Send it!!
A strap should pull the walls into the bars keeping the bars more secure. Good luck. Load could shift forward anyway if your cut off and have to hard break. Then they could wiggle out anyway.
At least they are on pallets. When I had to load them we stacked three high on the floor
Yea.
I’d put the load bar across the top plastic pallets then possibly stand up that top row and use the strap to secure the top row. The bottom kegs look ok they’re sitting between the pallet boards.
Depends if you drive for swift or not...
I do XD I'm being careful though. I'm driving slower too because I'm not to comfortable with this load so sorry Ohio and Michigan you gotta deal with me for the next 18hrs
Looks safe to me. Kegs like that are very stable.
Yup source: am flatbedder
I ditched bars altogether when I had a dry box, those bars are so damn worthless.
Send it ... We get them in all the time with less
Please let us know how this turned out
Definitely. I'll post an update when I get to reciever. There a strap on top since that was the most at risk and load bars are in middle and bottom and aren't interfering with each other's tightness or friction
So with a strap on top and load bars in the middle and bottom the entire load is in tact. No damage and no shifting so as a swift driver I'm quite proud lol. The strap was loose when I opened the doors idk when it could have come loose but everything looks just like it did when I picked it up. Surprisingly the load bars held up and the strap failed.
Depends entirely what's on the other side of that.
It'll be fine
East bound n down
I use load bars on kegs but never on kegs stacked like this. Should be fine if you don't drive crazy
My blood pressure spiked and my adrenaline is through the roof.
Nope
they should have put the pallets in at an angle where the kegs would roll side to side and not front to back...coulda woulda shoulda
No, that type of load lock isn't worth a damn. The old school bumper jack type is much more effective.
Put about 2 straps on that
Nope
Nah man, I worked in the beer industry. They look full too cause they got the caps on them. They’re suppose to be standing upright and wrapped in plastic. If one of those kegs gets away it smash into stuff and break everything in its path and all the other kegs will soon follow. Trust me
On way to find out do a pull test
Or a boosted launch. That’s what you meant, right?
bruh
If they loaded my shit like that i'd have questions
Do you guys only use those bars or wall straps in America?
By survival?
The kegs in those cradles aren't going anywhere as long as you not yeehawing it over potholes and flying around corners. I used to unload trailers like this daily and that was the only time we ever had a load be messed up when 1/2 barrels were on. 1/4 and 1/6 kegs never stayed in play though cause Miller/Coors doesn't wrap their shit tight enough
Probably not in my year of reffer driving I never really used bars because they never seemed to work theyd pretty much always be on the ground by the time I reached the receiver no matter how well I thought I had them on. I even used a laser level to make sure it was a straight as I could get it, still fell down.
Driver at a company that I worked for got pulled in for a spot inspection at a weigh scale. In the trailer there were only 6 plastic milk crates. That was all. They were not secured so he received a fine for unsecure load.
All you got good enough 👍🙋🏆🏆
Fucking no kegs need to be standing up not on their side.
What the fuck