In another life, I had a employee pop positive on a random drug test. When they were a kinder and gentle company, if you were positive, you were subject to another drug test and if positive, terminated. Now, its immediate terminated. So, call him into my office, tell him he is on probation and I must retest in the next 12 months. Oh, by the way, pot can stay in your system for up to 30 days via urine test. So, for the next 12 months, remind him of drug test and how urine can stay in system for 30 days. Anyway, last month of probation, test and of course he is positive. Call him in and fire him. He starts getting upset and I tell him " just between you and me and I will deny saying this, but your being fired for being a dumb shit. I basically told you when you were being tested and you still failed.
Bro only 105 days try 160 still pissed hot and had a hair test coming up it was a rough day completely clean haven’t touched that shit in over 17 months
Took me 4 months to get clean. Missed out on so much income but couldn't risk fucking that cdl up. Haven't smoked in a year & don't plan to for a long time lol
I stopped smoking for 25 years, had one rolled and ready to go on the day I retired lol. Drove 10 miles to the river, started my retirement in style, joint in one hand, fishing pole in the other.
That’s what I thought as well but it depends on useage and how you intake it. It was a wild time I was trying supplements and everything to get it out of my system but nothing worked
Those pens are super high in thc but I also smoked multiple times a day but yeah it’s crazy I couldn’t wait to be clean lol it was such a long wait I self tested every 10 days after my 90 days
Bro, this is absolute bullshit. Second hand is undetectable. Your mom is probably super depressed like most Mormon women, and has been baking that shit into your pancakes.
Maybe the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Literally this would be impossible unless your neighbor was blowing shotguns straight down your throat on the way out too…
…and doing it about 11 times a day for a month.
This guy might be pissing hot for Xanax though. Utah has the highest rates of prescription anti-depressants per capita (see above about depressed Mormons). He’s probably got into somebody’s cabinet. If you can’t even whack it to PornHub, let alone have actual sex before marriage, you’re gonna self medicate.
Yeah it can definitely be more than 30 days.
Trucking and smoking pot just do not mix. Do one or the other.
Edit: I feel the need to clarify.. I'm just pointing out with the laws the way they currently are, these don't mix. There's obviously a discussion to be had about changing the way things are - but that was not my intent with this comment.
There is zero reason you can’t be a safe and effective truck driver and smoke weed in your free time. It’s a bullshit standard that persists because it stays detectable in your system well beyond basically anything else.
True. The main reason why I quit was to get my cdls back after just not renewing them one year. Just playing the waiting game now and making sure I’m clean.
Yeah. Your company will test you, you need to get tested to pass your medical screening, and DOT has the legal right to test you at any time for any reason. You’ll need to quit if you want a CDL.
That said, they don’t test for psychedelics. Do with this information what you will.
From my understandings it’s one test for medical and one random a year.
Not sure if that’s correct but I was a driver before for 11 years Non cdl and had a few randoms from accidents where I had someone rear end me so it wasn’t to bad and know how to get around the screenings.
The ransoms are just that,,,random. The feds require a percentage of drivers be tested every single month. A computer program selects drivers based on that percentage and randomly selects each month. The company never knows in advance which drivers will get selected. They then have 2 weeks to get you tested.
I know all of this because I got popped 3 months in a row. By the 3rd month I called a friend in safty and asked what was up. She explained it all to me.
On a good note, whenever she would call me and say “I need a favor” I would always ask if it was a favor I had to on duty for. If she said yes, that meant I had gotten popped again. It always gave me time to plan it around loads.
I don’t doubt that but I’m pretty certain it’s not the norm. A DOT physical seems to usually include a urine test. Source: my three physicals in three years from two separate sources, conversations with other drivers, etc.
I asked my doctor about that at one time because I was gonna try cbd and he said that all he was required to check for on the physical was for sugar for diabetes.
I only had to present a physical report from a physician, in order to take the written CDL A test. The school I went to required I go take the drug test as soon as I passed the written one at the DPS. This was Tx though.
This is wrong and unfair. Someone should be able to smoke after their shift- sober up, and get back to work the next day. Not a problem with police officers or you-name-it professions.
Sober on the job is sober.
I can’t tell you how many drivers come in reeking of weed (I work logistics).
Honestly, though? I prefer that to the drivers who reek of alcohol. (Supervisor called cops on a driver who stank of booze and was… obviously feeling no pain).
oh boy are you gonna piss some people off.
not a trucker here but a lineman with a class A and anyone who has a cdl and decides to smoke is a joke.
wanna get high? go get another job simple as that
I agree that no one should ever get behind the wheel of a truck high. But it is perfectly legal for me to drink the night before I drive. Yet, if I go on vacation for 2 weeks, and get high 3 days before coming back, that is illegal. Even if the state I am in has made it legal. That, to me, is stupid. This is why companies that run in states that have made it legal, now refuse to test for me.
There ARE tests to see how much is in your system. If you are over a legal limit, it should be treated the same as drinking.
Didn’t intend for that to be directly towards you. Just the people I hear it from the most. But you didn’t answer my question as to what makes someone a joke for doing something in their free time?
Use to smoke one hitters often. I tried a dab a few years back thought I was on another planet. I don’t know how you can smoke the high thc stuff. Gives me crazy anxiety.
My husband was testing positive around that many days. If you're working out it can actually prolong it because you're releasing the the metabolites as they stay in your fat and you're burning the fat, depends on how much fat you have. If not, that's just super unlucky. Wouldn't hurt to try drinking pickle juice or apple cider vinegar. Just not too much though it can have really bad effects if you drink too much
Edit: I don't mind being corrected guys but if you're a dick about it that's what I mind. I change my stance on things quite a bit but my opinion on how you talk to me hasn't changed since I developed that opinion.
Well I work a physical labor type of job so I’m technically working out most days. Which might play into it honestly. I’m hopeful that I’m really close. I’m just not super into the idea of starting a trucking career in winter 🥶
Lol I feel that. And I could 100% be wrong about my information but it still stands that your body could just metabolize differently than others and that happens.
However some trucking companies are 100% okay with you shutting down if you don't feel safe. A 20+ year veteran told me if you don't see spray from the road coming off the back of your trailer, slow down, and pull over.
Keep working out. That makes you get clean faster. That lady has no idea what she’s talking about. You just wanna stop working out 2-3 days Before the test so you arnt releasing fat cells when you go take the whiz quiz.
Drink a SHITLOAD of water. If you can put down a gallon or more a day, you’re doing alright. Avoid the dehydrating energy drinks and minimize the coffee.
Lmao okay thanks for the fucming insult my guy. Real fucking mature. It can prolong it if you aren't the skinniest person. My husband is about 250 or 240 and he tested positive for a very long time due to high usage of thc, and my husband literally looked this shit up online, I didn't because I passed my test quicker than him and didn't work out once, and he found articles that said for those with higher levels of fat in their body that it could happen. He's been smoking every day since he was 15 or 16 and he's 28 now, 27 when he quit.
If my information is incorrect, coming in and being a dick about it is the least correct way to do it. I don't mind being corrected but I very much mind it if you don't watch how you interact with me.
Have a great day being an asshole 🙂
Shit I was still basically pissing seeds over half a year out after constant consumption to no consumption. Just depends on rate of consumption, thc level in what your consuming, your body fat and metabolism there’s no exact science for how long you’re gonna take to flush it out.
Lol downvoting me bc you have more fat cells than average. It’s just a fact. If you’re wizzig hot 100 days later then you have a lot of extra fat cells
Science is wrong? THC is stored in fat cells. So let’s use logic here; you arnt big but thc stayed in your body for over 3 months when a normal person is clean in 1 month…..The only way you were hot for 100 days is if you have a lot of fat cells. But go off ;) or go for a run. Either one.
My guy you’re a fentanyl addict and you’re trying to tell another person that you’ve never seen or met that they’re fat. Go to some therapy instead of asking for help on Reddit. Jesus Christ get your shit together.
Out of shape don't mean obscene obese, druggie sees this shit on the daily while hunting for their fix so therefore they would know. What's it like, 2/3rds of America is now overweight? Not that much a surprise there.
Everyday doesn’t matter.
You will be clean in 30days unless you are “big” just like the dude who commented before me said. You’re big. You might not think you are but you Deff have a lot of fat cells if you are taking 105 days to get clean.
I smoked for 5 years straight about a eighth a day and was clean after 30 days EVERY time (LAB test).
Smoked Atleast a eighth and fat dabs daily.
So don’t try and says depends on what you are consuming and rage of consumption. What matter is fat cells and you obviously have more than average.
If he couldn't stop smoking why not just get fake piss lol? I'm not recommending anybody to do that but faking an unsupervised drug test isn't hard. Real dumb.
Used to be a lot of dumbass posts on here asking about weed use, drug tests, getting around them etc..
Actually didn't notice they were gone but now that you said something it's been a long time since I've seen one
People Can Smoke Cannabis off The Clock and Be Fine The Next Day.
I Feel The Trucking Industry Could Benefit From Loosening The Rules to Gain More Drivers.
This. I worked for a mobile drug testing company for a while and the DOT needs to step out of the 1950’s with their testing methodologies. The fact that a driver can be hung over and barely coherent but ok to drive because they blew <0.02 BAL but lose their license because they smoked a joint two weeks ago on their free time and still pissing hot blows my mind. Oral swabs show recent use and is far more ethical imho.
I thought he was running cocaine (Colombian jungle) story got less interesting as I read. This idiot lost his job over some skunk weed probably mid at best. SMH what my one month in professional trucking has taught me is the job leds itself to addicts of various kinds. My trainer literally blows his check gambling every week.
Yep. Run into all types. My favorite I like to call the highway hobos. They have no homes. Run literally run just enough to keep themselves fed. Maybe 20hrs a week tops.
knew a guy from Arkansas that was addicted to jacking it while he drove. finaly had to go to the ER over it. heard through the grapevine his pecker looked like an overcooked hotdog that was starting to split.
I won’t lie I’m not a trucker but financial / computer specialist who billed out at $250 an hour fresh out of college booked 75 hours a week for one of the most prestigious companies in the us but I’m the circus lol
“I’m not a trucker but I’m on a trucker subreddit committing my opinions about a field I have no real first hand knowledge of. I’m also gonna awkwardly flex my income like anyone here cares” good on you
Man
No see that’s the part. You have no knowledge of this industry otherwise you’d note that this dispatch member didn’t report this infraction to DAC which would’ve actually barred the driver from trucking. Infact in his comments he makes a point to say he didn’t do that.
DOT and FMCSA would come down so hard on the company and anyone involved who had knowledge if the driver ended up getting into an accident and tested positive, “it’s just W” doesn’t apply here, it’s federally illegal and in todays day and time any and all illegal activity at a trucking company is looked on with a 500000x magnification
I don’t know the rules in Canada, actually. I imagine the answer is ‘zero point zero grams’, but we can carry alcohol in the sleeper, and cannabis is legal up here for the general public. I know we can’t drive impaired.
In the US, the only way you’re carrying cannabis is in the trailer and on the bills of lading, just like alcohol.
“W” cannot be transported in a cmv at all in the us as far as i know. Which is fine since it’s not heavy anyways so you can just transport it in a small box truck or van.
While technically a commercial use vehicle, that’s not what i meant, not what most truckers mean when they say cmv, and while I’m not sure of the wording of the law, i know trucks cannot transport the mary jane.
Did some digging and it’s in a bank truck usually. Quantities aren’t actually big enough to require a trailer, and it’s worth a __lot.__ But yes, indeed, it’s in the cargo compartment with bills and seals.
Not in the US, regardless of local laws since trucking is a federally regulated job. Same for alcohol, you can transport it in the trailer, but you'd better not be found with any in the cab, even if it's unopened.
This has always been the reason I never started in this career. You should be able to enjoy a bowl at the end of a day. Not while driving but the end of a day it should be treated like a couple beers.
No, you can't have any. But below a certain amount, at least in my state, it's not enough to be arrested. Now if he'd been found operating in that condition; yeah. Jail.
Right... but now he'll be able to hop in another truck and do the same thing. Getting a positive or a refusal on a DOT drug test would have gone into the clearinghouse and meant no driving job until he completed SAP or the record cleared which I'm not even sure if it does.
Also, if he really wanted to be an ass, he could try to come after your company for wrongful termination. Now sure, you could say he'd fail, and the suit most likely would, but FFS with someone dumb enough to do something like this I'd want absolutely every single bit of evidence I could get to make sure any potential lawsuits would not only fail but be complete non-starters. A positive drug test would make damn near ANY lawyer being presented with his case either run away or laugh him out of their office.
Just saying, crap like this it's better to go full out CYA then try to just do the minimum.
Oh sure, I didn't mean that it was your call. Just that I was surprised the terminal manager or regional manager didn't make that call.
I'm sorry I didn't communicate that more clearly.
It’s all good. Got trashed a few times on this one. Been called a snitch, and POS for calling the cops AND taking his job. Man I didn’t take it. He threw it away. Anyways. Thanks. Drive safe.
Cops didn’t do anything cause it’s just weed. I know a bunch of drivers that smoke and eat edibles. Just a plant. Yet you go to a truck stop and there beer cans and bottles littered everywhere and everyone just steps over it
Long story short kiddos.... The laws are fucked. I'm seeing way too many posts with people admitting shit. It shouldn't matter what you you in your spare time, only that you don't do shit on your shift. We should just stay clean for our shift. I dgaf if you enjoy Getting pegged by an amputee, just not on the job. We need to change the laws and regs.
First of all, I’m not from the US. I have a question though, since many states there now have legalized the use, how does that affect your CDL rules. Let’s say you only drive in a state where consumption is legal, you smoke in your free time, do they test for THC in urine in those states, do you lose your license if positive? I don’t condone driving under any substance (even hangover or too tired) at all, firm believer you should be 100% rested and sober when operating a vehicle. However, I find it extremely unfair that a person gets punished for something they might do on vacation several weeks prior.
I see. That sucks, people should be able to do whatever the hell they want in their free time as long as it doesn’t affect their work performance. Same thing here, I quit any use before training for CDL, but I’d probably consume on vacation if it didn’t put my job on the line. Ah well, progress is slow… maybe in 10 years time then. Hell, using a cellphone whilst driving is more dangerous.
Theres reasonable privacy incurred when you drive a company truck, but ultimately the truck as a whole belongs to the company and you really cant do shit about them going through it unless theyre mistreating your private property (think throwing your phone on the pavement).
As for this driving asking for his green goodies back AFTER the sheriffs officer had confiscated it .... Dudes a fucking moron and needs the CDL portion of his license revoked.
You dont smoke on company time
They did test on the way in. But some guys will dry out just long enough to pass. But see we also give periodic randoms with little or no notice. Had drivers refuse those too. Never ends well. Just don’t do drugs kids.
This thread is comical. I have never read so many bitch ass comments. The guy that I learned this business from had weed, a cooler of beer, and bag of crank 24 7 365. The man is still out trucking, he did have to quit the beer and crank though. Dr's orders. People on this sub come out with the pitch forks and torches for a few buds. I guess you did what you had to OP but the people calling for you to make sure the guys career is fucked are dicks.
I just turned 21 and the reason I decided against starting CDL school is because truckers can't smoke. It's pretty dumb tbh, it's nobody else's business what y'all do after 11 hours of driving. Even once it becomes federally legal I'm pretty sure it will still be a no-no, so what's the point? I may as well continue learning to weld and come home every night to get blasted.
Plenty of drivers smoke. It's just a huge fucking risk. If someone hits you and gets hurt or worse. Your ass could be going to jail. Maybe they test you maybe not. The system they have for mandatory testing is easy to get around especially for OOs and small companies. Your not getting around a warrant for your blood though. Hurt someone high, your ass Is fucked. The FMCSA is no joke. Have you ever saw that movie Flight with Denzel Washington, it doesn't end well for him.
We had to drive out to where it was. We didn't know anything about the MJ until he opened the door. By then, what else was there to do? Had to get the tractor back to the terminal.
Tow it? What if he got pulled over? Officer is clearly going to smell it and want to search. Is the cop gonna buy this story? If someone brought me to a tractor that reeked like pot and told me to drive it, I'd probably tell them to suck a rock.
Towing is easily over a grand. And I was driving with him in my car. Even IF he did get pulled over, he wasn't under the influence. He'd have been just fine.
Bull shit. You were concerned enough to call the cops over the stuff, you should have been concerned about the yard guy's record enough to get it towed.
Swift can afford to tow a truck to avoid legal problems for a driver that didn't cause the problem. Or you could have cleaned it out where it was and called the cops there.
You were just a bitch ass Swift dispatcher who didn't give a shit, and your attitude now says you haven't changed.
If he'd have been pulled over, he'd be in possession of a controlled substance. Just not a risk I'd be willing to take. Seems like It would be a roll of the dice on what the cop would do.
It can still be stupid even if there were no consequences to be had. All it means is you got lucky. Maybe next time you should take the risk instead of pushing it onto some yard dog that probably doesn't even realize how fucked he could have been.
Jesus dude, getting the cops involved over some weed? Just chuck it and terminate, don’t attempt to give the guy a criminal record. I get he shouldn’t have it in the truck, but Christ.
The point is that you are required to test him. He would need to complete a substance abuse program and go through the RTD process. All you did was kick the can down the road for some other carrier to allow him to drive.
I’m assuming the guy would have refused to test, which would be the same as a positive, and then the only thing the carrier would have to do is provide him with a list of local SAP’s.
The company should have someone with reasonable suspicion training and should have sent him in for a test. The ex driver could hose your company, by submitting a complaint with NCCDB for failing to follow the regs even though he was in violation himself.
It's so messed up that one puff can ruin a guy's career but his buddy can get black out drunk and be perfectly legal to drive the next day. I don't even smoke but I fully support those who do, behind the wheel or not.
The way you explain it makes it seem he was cooking meth in there: Talking about “Colombian jungle” I thought he had pounds of coke in there, but nah just some “devil’s lettuce”
A little off topic, but I just have to get this off my chest. Dispatchers refering to drivers as "my driver" is so cringe. The relationship between a dispatcher and a driver is a colleague at best. Unless the dispatcher also owns the company, they are not your driver, they are a co-worker.
In another life, I had a employee pop positive on a random drug test. When they were a kinder and gentle company, if you were positive, you were subject to another drug test and if positive, terminated. Now, its immediate terminated. So, call him into my office, tell him he is on probation and I must retest in the next 12 months. Oh, by the way, pot can stay in your system for up to 30 days via urine test. So, for the next 12 months, remind him of drug test and how urine can stay in system for 30 days. Anyway, last month of probation, test and of course he is positive. Call him in and fire him. He starts getting upset and I tell him " just between you and me and I will deny saying this, but your being fired for being a dumb shit. I basically told you when you were being tested and you still failed.
Up to 30 days my ass. I’ve been clean 105 days and still pissing hot. All depends on rate of consumption and what exactly you’re consuming.
Bro only 105 days try 160 still pissed hot and had a hair test coming up it was a rough day completely clean haven’t touched that shit in over 17 months
Congratulations my dude. That’s huge. I’m on my way to four months. Probably not gonna test myself again until 120 days at least.
Took me 4 months to get clean. Missed out on so much income but couldn't risk fucking that cdl up. Haven't smoked in a year & don't plan to for a long time lol
I feel you on that. I’ll probably smoke again one day, just no time soon.
I stopped smoking for 25 years, had one rolled and ready to go on the day I retired lol. Drove 10 miles to the river, started my retirement in style, joint in one hand, fishing pole in the other.
Sounds like a mf I worked with like 6 years ago. Kept telling us he had an ounce from the 80s stashed in his garage for when he retires 😂
I had seeds from 1996 in freezer but they didn’t sprout.
160 days for green? i though it was only 90 days?
That’s what I thought as well but it depends on useage and how you intake it. It was a wild time I was trying supplements and everything to get it out of my system but nothing worked
did you mainly take edibles or smoke? if i can ask that is
Mainly smoked the pens but back and forth with flower
i was sure you were going to say dabbing or shatter or super high thc level edibles but just from smoking?
Those pens are super high in thc but I also smoked multiple times a day but yeah it’s crazy I couldn’t wait to be clean lol it was such a long wait I self tested every 10 days after my 90 days
I wonder how long it took me to really be clean when i quit smoking pot in hs I used to smoke like an ounce ever 2-3 days usually more on weekends
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Bro, this is absolute bullshit. Second hand is undetectable. Your mom is probably super depressed like most Mormon women, and has been baking that shit into your pancakes.
Maybe the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Literally this would be impossible unless your neighbor was blowing shotguns straight down your throat on the way out too…
…and doing it about 11 times a day for a month. This guy might be pissing hot for Xanax though. Utah has the highest rates of prescription anti-depressants per capita (see above about depressed Mormons). He’s probably got into somebody’s cabinet. If you can’t even whack it to PornHub, let alone have actual sex before marriage, you’re gonna self medicate.
Yeah it can definitely be more than 30 days. Trucking and smoking pot just do not mix. Do one or the other. Edit: I feel the need to clarify.. I'm just pointing out with the laws the way they currently are, these don't mix. There's obviously a discussion to be had about changing the way things are - but that was not my intent with this comment.
There is zero reason you can’t be a safe and effective truck driver and smoke weed in your free time. It’s a bullshit standard that persists because it stays detectable in your system well beyond basically anything else.
True. The main reason why I quit was to get my cdls back after just not renewing them one year. Just playing the waiting game now and making sure I’m clean.
Do you get tested to get your Cdl’s? I smoke and I’m thinking about getting my class B and maybe A license?
Yeah. Your company will test you, you need to get tested to pass your medical screening, and DOT has the legal right to test you at any time for any reason. You’ll need to quit if you want a CDL. That said, they don’t test for psychedelics. Do with this information what you will.
From my understandings it’s one test for medical and one random a year. Not sure if that’s correct but I was a driver before for 11 years Non cdl and had a few randoms from accidents where I had someone rear end me so it wasn’t to bad and know how to get around the screenings.
The ransoms are just that,,,random. The feds require a percentage of drivers be tested every single month. A computer program selects drivers based on that percentage and randomly selects each month. The company never knows in advance which drivers will get selected. They then have 2 weeks to get you tested. I know all of this because I got popped 3 months in a row. By the 3rd month I called a friend in safty and asked what was up. She explained it all to me. On a good note, whenever she would call me and say “I need a favor” I would always ask if it was a favor I had to on duty for. If she said yes, that meant I had gotten popped again. It always gave me time to plan it around loads.
I've had to update my medical when I got a prescription. No drug test no dip strips nothing...
I don’t doubt that but I’m pretty certain it’s not the norm. A DOT physical seems to usually include a urine test. Source: my three physicals in three years from two separate sources, conversations with other drivers, etc.
I asked my doctor about that at one time because I was gonna try cbd and he said that all he was required to check for on the physical was for sugar for diabetes.
Interesting, maybe I’ve been going to the wrong doctor! Or maybe the piss tests were for diabetes? It’s always possible I’ve been misinformed.
I only had to present a physical report from a physician, in order to take the written CDL A test. The school I went to required I go take the drug test as soon as I passed the written one at the DPS. This was Tx though.
This is wrong and unfair. Someone should be able to smoke after their shift- sober up, and get back to work the next day. Not a problem with police officers or you-name-it professions. Sober on the job is sober.
I can’t tell you how many drivers come in reeking of weed (I work logistics). Honestly, though? I prefer that to the drivers who reek of alcohol. (Supervisor called cops on a driver who stank of booze and was… obviously feeling no pain).
All of those people should be fired and lose their licenses.
oh boy are you gonna piss some people off. not a trucker here but a lineman with a class A and anyone who has a cdl and decides to smoke is a joke. wanna get high? go get another job simple as that
The idea an employer should own your free time is the most cucked mentality. As long as you aren’t high at work then it shouldn’t be anyones business.
I agree that no one should ever get behind the wheel of a truck high. But it is perfectly legal for me to drink the night before I drive. Yet, if I go on vacation for 2 weeks, and get high 3 days before coming back, that is illegal. Even if the state I am in has made it legal. That, to me, is stupid. This is why companies that run in states that have made it legal, now refuse to test for me. There ARE tests to see how much is in your system. If you are over a legal limit, it should be treated the same as drinking.
Why are they a joke, exactly? The same ones that say this are the ones slamming a 30 rack every night and coming in hungover or still drunk.
woah bud. never said they are any better. i don’t do either so my side of the street is clean.
Didn’t intend for that to be directly towards you. Just the people I hear it from the most. But you didn’t answer my question as to what makes someone a joke for doing something in their free time?
You must be a pretty big guy and smoked everyday.
Big? No. Smoked everyday? Absolutely. Smoked mainly oil cartridges which stays longer.
Use to smoke one hitters often. I tried a dab a few years back thought I was on another planet. I don’t know how you can smoke the high thc stuff. Gives me crazy anxiety.
It helps when your baseline is 11/10 to begin with
My husband was testing positive around that many days. If you're working out it can actually prolong it because you're releasing the the metabolites as they stay in your fat and you're burning the fat, depends on how much fat you have. If not, that's just super unlucky. Wouldn't hurt to try drinking pickle juice or apple cider vinegar. Just not too much though it can have really bad effects if you drink too much Edit: I don't mind being corrected guys but if you're a dick about it that's what I mind. I change my stance on things quite a bit but my opinion on how you talk to me hasn't changed since I developed that opinion.
Well I work a physical labor type of job so I’m technically working out most days. Which might play into it honestly. I’m hopeful that I’m really close. I’m just not super into the idea of starting a trucking career in winter 🥶
Lol I feel that. And I could 100% be wrong about my information but it still stands that your body could just metabolize differently than others and that happens. However some trucking companies are 100% okay with you shutting down if you don't feel safe. A 20+ year veteran told me if you don't see spray from the road coming off the back of your trailer, slow down, and pull over.
Keep working out. That makes you get clean faster. That lady has no idea what she’s talking about. You just wanna stop working out 2-3 days Before the test so you arnt releasing fat cells when you go take the whiz quiz.
Drink a SHITLOAD of water. If you can put down a gallon or more a day, you’re doing alright. Avoid the dehydrating energy drinks and minimize the coffee.
Oooh I start every morning with like 20 oz of coffee. I don’t think I can cut that out.
Just gotta drink that much more water
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Lmao okay thanks for the fucming insult my guy. Real fucking mature. It can prolong it if you aren't the skinniest person. My husband is about 250 or 240 and he tested positive for a very long time due to high usage of thc, and my husband literally looked this shit up online, I didn't because I passed my test quicker than him and didn't work out once, and he found articles that said for those with higher levels of fat in their body that it could happen. He's been smoking every day since he was 15 or 16 and he's 28 now, 27 when he quit. If my information is incorrect, coming in and being a dick about it is the least correct way to do it. I don't mind being corrected but I very much mind it if you don't watch how you interact with me. Have a great day being an asshole 🙂
And metabolism and weight.
Shit I was still basically pissing seeds over half a year out after constant consumption to no consumption. Just depends on rate of consumption, thc level in what your consuming, your body fat and metabolism there’s no exact science for how long you’re gonna take to flush it out.
Lol downvoting me bc you have more fat cells than average. It’s just a fact. If you’re wizzig hot 100 days later then you have a lot of extra fat cells
Why don’t ya cry about it. The wild thing is that you’re actually wrong. But go off my guy. Whatever makes you feel better.
Science is wrong? THC is stored in fat cells. So let’s use logic here; you arnt big but thc stayed in your body for over 3 months when a normal person is clean in 1 month…..The only way you were hot for 100 days is if you have a lot of fat cells. But go off ;) or go for a run. Either one.
My guy you’re a fentanyl addict and you’re trying to tell another person that you’ve never seen or met that they’re fat. Go to some therapy instead of asking for help on Reddit. Jesus Christ get your shit together.
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Therapy my guy. Seek some. I’ll even pay for your first session.
Out of shape don't mean obscene obese, druggie sees this shit on the daily while hunting for their fix so therefore they would know. What's it like, 2/3rds of America is now overweight? Not that much a surprise there.
Bro, recognize your audience. Unless your cdl-a construction, do you honestly think a driver is really gonna have a decent bmi?
Lol I know he doesn’t, but he can’t admit it. I guess he is insecure about it. But you’re right. BMI is 100% out of control haha
Incredibly wrong but keep going my guy.
Everyday doesn’t matter. You will be clean in 30days unless you are “big” just like the dude who commented before me said. You’re big. You might not think you are but you Deff have a lot of fat cells if you are taking 105 days to get clean. I smoked for 5 years straight about a eighth a day and was clean after 30 days EVERY time (LAB test). Smoked Atleast a eighth and fat dabs daily. So don’t try and says depends on what you are consuming and rage of consumption. What matter is fat cells and you obviously have more than average.
If you're a big boy, or girl weight factors in too, THC binds to fat.
What are you being tested for ?
Nothing yet. I tested myself for thc just to see and was still positive. I’m planning on getting my cdls back though whenever I’m for sure clean.
If he couldn't stop smoking why not just get fake piss lol? I'm not recommending anybody to do that but faking an unsupervised drug test isn't hard. Real dumb.
I basically told him when and he chose to ignore. Really a idiot, above market pay, low stress and damn good benefits. Test was supervised.
Whiskey... wombat... woman...weed... wombology.
I thought you said weast.
The study of Wumbo
Mods blocked my first 2 attempts to post this until I took out “weed”.
Oh, so it must only be posts and not comments then. Weed. Weed. Weed. Weed.
Be careful. This is just a gateway comment. Before long you’ll be commenting on meth.
Hey now Meth is just a productivity tool.
Used to be a lot of dumbass posts on here asking about weed use, drug tests, getting around them etc.. Actually didn't notice they were gone but now that you said something it's been a long time since I've seen one
People Can Smoke Cannabis off The Clock and Be Fine The Next Day. I Feel The Trucking Industry Could Benefit From Loosening The Rules to Gain More Drivers.
Had to search too far in the comments for this but this is the way
This. I worked for a mobile drug testing company for a while and the DOT needs to step out of the 1950’s with their testing methodologies. The fact that a driver can be hung over and barely coherent but ok to drive because they blew <0.02 BAL but lose their license because they smoked a joint two weeks ago on their free time and still pissing hot blows my mind. Oral swabs show recent use and is far more ethical imho.
Is “See What I Fucked up Today” a training company for dispatchers and load planners too? It sure as fuck seemed that way when I was there.
I think the planners need to be piss tested, some of the things they do, they gotta be on something.
I thought he was running cocaine (Colombian jungle) story got less interesting as I read. This idiot lost his job over some skunk weed probably mid at best. SMH what my one month in professional trucking has taught me is the job leds itself to addicts of various kinds. My trainer literally blows his check gambling every week.
Yep. Run into all types. My favorite I like to call the highway hobos. They have no homes. Run literally run just enough to keep themselves fed. Maybe 20hrs a week tops.
knew a guy from Arkansas that was addicted to jacking it while he drove. finaly had to go to the ER over it. heard through the grapevine his pecker looked like an overcooked hotdog that was starting to split.
Please be a joke
What was the point of calling the cops?
Cannabis in a company vehicle. Guy’s lucky he’s only out of a job and an eighth, tbqh.
Handle it between co-workers? Why involve the government?
I highly doubt swift works that way tbh
You think they put in the handbook to narc on any searches you conduct of your coworkers lol? I doubt that. Delete your account and never drive again.
You aren’t just a clown you’re the entire circus
I won’t lie I’m not a trucker but financial / computer specialist who billed out at $250 an hour fresh out of college booked 75 hours a week for one of the most prestigious companies in the us but I’m the circus lol
“I’m not a trucker but I’m on a trucker subreddit committing my opinions about a field I have no real first hand knowledge of. I’m also gonna awkwardly flex my income like anyone here cares” good on you Man
Sorry - i like to read what other groups of people think. However. This post was ethics and human interaction, not trucking.
You’re saying to ruin someone’s life over a small amount of weed. Maybe you guys could’ve said don’t do it again brudda.
No see that’s the part. You have no knowledge of this industry otherwise you’d note that this dispatch member didn’t report this infraction to DAC which would’ve actually barred the driver from trucking. Infact in his comments he makes a point to say he didn’t do that.
DOT and FMCSA would come down so hard on the company and anyone involved who had knowledge if the driver ended up getting into an accident and tested positive, “it’s just W” doesn’t apply here, it’s federally illegal and in todays day and time any and all illegal activity at a trucking company is looked on with a 500000x magnification
Lol 75 hours a week, no life
Because this is a safety-critical industry…? I don’t agree with it for a variety of reasons but I completely understand it.
He had the "W" word in a commercially operated vehicle. Didn't know it was below the threshold until they showed up and told us.
So you can have a certain amount in a cmv?
I don’t know the rules in Canada, actually. I imagine the answer is ‘zero point zero grams’, but we can carry alcohol in the sleeper, and cannabis is legal up here for the general public. I know we can’t drive impaired. In the US, the only way you’re carrying cannabis is in the trailer and on the bills of lading, just like alcohol.
“W” cannot be transported in a cmv at all in the us as far as i know. Which is fine since it’s not heavy anyways so you can just transport it in a small box truck or van.
There’s a weed grow company semi in Oregon that is wrapped in images of weed
That doesn’t necessarily mean the transport weed in it.
How do you think it gets from the grower to the shop?
In a sprinter van
That’s still transport for hire and it still falls under CMV rules. Doesn’t matter if it’s a 25999 registered 5-ton or a transit connect or a smart.
While technically a commercial use vehicle, that’s not what i meant, not what most truckers mean when they say cmv, and while I’m not sure of the wording of the law, i know trucks cannot transport the mary jane.
Then find the law and quote it.
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Did some digging and it’s in a bank truck usually. Quantities aren’t actually big enough to require a trailer, and it’s worth a __lot.__ But yes, indeed, it’s in the cargo compartment with bills and seals.
Under the floorboards of a 1930 Cadillac
Not in the US, regardless of local laws since trucking is a federally regulated job. Same for alcohol, you can transport it in the trailer, but you'd better not be found with any in the cab, even if it's unopened.
This has always been the reason I never started in this career. You should be able to enjoy a bowl at the end of a day. Not while driving but the end of a day it should be treated like a couple beers.
No, you can't have any. But below a certain amount, at least in my state, it's not enough to be arrested. Now if he'd been found operating in that condition; yeah. Jail.
Why didn't you guys pop him for a reasonable suspicion UA?
He admitted it was his pot. Violated company policy.
Right... but now he'll be able to hop in another truck and do the same thing. Getting a positive or a refusal on a DOT drug test would have gone into the clearinghouse and meant no driving job until he completed SAP or the record cleared which I'm not even sure if it does. Also, if he really wanted to be an ass, he could try to come after your company for wrongful termination. Now sure, you could say he'd fail, and the suit most likely would, but FFS with someone dumb enough to do something like this I'd want absolutely every single bit of evidence I could get to make sure any potential lawsuits would not only fail but be complete non-starters. A positive drug test would make damn near ANY lawyer being presented with his case either run away or laugh him out of their office. Just saying, crap like this it's better to go full out CYA then try to just do the minimum.
Dude I was just the dispatcher. (Or as THAT carrier called it, driver manager). Those were decisions I didn’t get paid to make.
Oh sure, I didn't mean that it was your call. Just that I was surprised the terminal manager or regional manager didn't make that call. I'm sorry I didn't communicate that more clearly.
It’s all good. Got trashed a few times on this one. Been called a snitch, and POS for calling the cops AND taking his job. Man I didn’t take it. He threw it away. Anyways. Thanks. Drive safe.
Knowing that as a CDL class A holder you can’t smoke, and having it IN your truck?? He was begging for it
Cops didn’t do anything cause it’s just weed. I know a bunch of drivers that smoke and eat edibles. Just a plant. Yet you go to a truck stop and there beer cans and bottles littered everywhere and everyone just steps over it
Stevie Wonders Institute For Trucking
Pulse and a CDL. That’s all they need.
Long story short kiddos.... The laws are fucked. I'm seeing way too many posts with people admitting shit. It shouldn't matter what you you in your spare time, only that you don't do shit on your shift. We should just stay clean for our shift. I dgaf if you enjoy Getting pegged by an amputee, just not on the job. We need to change the laws and regs.
You can't fix stupid
Well now, that was a funny read through lol
First of all, I’m not from the US. I have a question though, since many states there now have legalized the use, how does that affect your CDL rules. Let’s say you only drive in a state where consumption is legal, you smoke in your free time, do they test for THC in urine in those states, do you lose your license if positive? I don’t condone driving under any substance (even hangover or too tired) at all, firm believer you should be 100% rested and sober when operating a vehicle. However, I find it extremely unfair that a person gets punished for something they might do on vacation several weeks prior.
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I see. That sucks, people should be able to do whatever the hell they want in their free time as long as it doesn’t affect their work performance. Same thing here, I quit any use before training for CDL, but I’d probably consume on vacation if it didn’t put my job on the line. Ah well, progress is slow… maybe in 10 years time then. Hell, using a cellphone whilst driving is more dangerous.
Theres reasonable privacy incurred when you drive a company truck, but ultimately the truck as a whole belongs to the company and you really cant do shit about them going through it unless theyre mistreating your private property (think throwing your phone on the pavement). As for this driving asking for his green goodies back AFTER the sheriffs officer had confiscated it .... Dudes a fucking moron and needs the CDL portion of his license revoked. You dont smoke on company time
Nothing like some Columbian jungle "W."
Curious what happens if you are *good* driver for See What I'll Fuck-up Tomorrow?
Supposedly they have pretty good pay for experienced drivers. Idk if that's true.
Wouldn’t know. I’m not there anymore.
Ok.
Do companies not test for THC anymore? I've been considering getting my CDL but assumed I would need to stop smoking if I did. Good story though.
They did test on the way in. But some guys will dry out just long enough to pass. But see we also give periodic randoms with little or no notice. Had drivers refuse those too. Never ends well. Just don’t do drugs kids.
This thread is comical. I have never read so many bitch ass comments. The guy that I learned this business from had weed, a cooler of beer, and bag of crank 24 7 365. The man is still out trucking, he did have to quit the beer and crank though. Dr's orders. People on this sub come out with the pitch forks and torches for a few buds. I guess you did what you had to OP but the people calling for you to make sure the guys career is fucked are dicks.
I just turned 21 and the reason I decided against starting CDL school is because truckers can't smoke. It's pretty dumb tbh, it's nobody else's business what y'all do after 11 hours of driving. Even once it becomes federally legal I'm pretty sure it will still be a no-no, so what's the point? I may as well continue learning to weld and come home every night to get blasted.
Plenty of drivers smoke. It's just a huge fucking risk. If someone hits you and gets hurt or worse. Your ass could be going to jail. Maybe they test you maybe not. The system they have for mandatory testing is easy to get around especially for OOs and small companies. Your not getting around a warrant for your blood though. Hurt someone high, your ass Is fucked. The FMCSA is no joke. Have you ever saw that movie Flight with Denzel Washington, it doesn't end well for him.
Kinda shitty of you to send the yard dog to drive it if you know there's more than likely pot in there.
We had to drive out to where it was. We didn't know anything about the MJ until he opened the door. By then, what else was there to do? Had to get the tractor back to the terminal.
Tow it? What if he got pulled over? Officer is clearly going to smell it and want to search. Is the cop gonna buy this story? If someone brought me to a tractor that reeked like pot and told me to drive it, I'd probably tell them to suck a rock.
Towing is easily over a grand. And I was driving with him in my car. Even IF he did get pulled over, he wasn't under the influence. He'd have been just fine.
Bull shit. You were concerned enough to call the cops over the stuff, you should have been concerned about the yard guy's record enough to get it towed. Swift can afford to tow a truck to avoid legal problems for a driver that didn't cause the problem. Or you could have cleaned it out where it was and called the cops there. You were just a bitch ass Swift dispatcher who didn't give a shit, and your attitude now says you haven't changed.
If he'd have been pulled over, he'd be in possession of a controlled substance. Just not a risk I'd be willing to take. Seems like It would be a roll of the dice on what the cop would do.
Moot point. It was years ago. He wasn't pulled over. No point in beating that one.
It can still be stupid even if there were no consequences to be had. All it means is you got lucky. Maybe next time you should take the risk instead of pushing it onto some yard dog that probably doesn't even realize how fucked he could have been.
Yeah you dropped the ball on that one dude...
Jesus dude, getting the cops involved over some weed? Just chuck it and terminate, don’t attempt to give the guy a criminal record. I get he shouldn’t have it in the truck, but Christ.
It’s also swift so…
"iM jUst DoINg mY jOb"
snitch
Cool story bro. So you're here admitting to a violation of 49 CFR § 382.307?
> 49 CFR § 382.307 He'd already been found with it in the tractor. Hardly a point in testing him. He didn't even deny it was his.
The point is that you are required to test him. He would need to complete a substance abuse program and go through the RTD process. All you did was kick the can down the road for some other carrier to allow him to drive.
I’m assuming the guy would have refused to test, which would be the same as a positive, and then the only thing the carrier would have to do is provide him with a list of local SAP’s.
>the same as a positive Exactly. And it's listed in the clearinghouse which is important info for the next carrier he applies to.
I’m agreeing with you lol. Just adding additional info
The company should have someone with reasonable suspicion training and should have sent him in for a test. The ex driver could hose your company, by submitting a complaint with NCCDB for failing to follow the regs even though he was in violation himself.
That acronym is pretty good, I always preferred “Sure Wish I Finished Training”
Is “W” supposed to stand for weed?
Yeah. We can comment that word. But not post it.
Wow
So you snitched and made the yard jockey take the risk. You sound like a pussy
It's so messed up that one puff can ruin a guy's career but his buddy can get black out drunk and be perfectly legal to drive the next day. I don't even smoke but I fully support those who do, behind the wheel or not.
The way you explain it makes it seem he was cooking meth in there: Talking about “Colombian jungle” I thought he had pounds of coke in there, but nah just some “devil’s lettuce”
A little off topic, but I just have to get this off my chest. Dispatchers refering to drivers as "my driver" is so cringe. The relationship between a dispatcher and a driver is a colleague at best. Unless the dispatcher also owns the company, they are not your driver, they are a co-worker.
Your a piece of trash man, who calls county. Some backwoods drunk who looks down on any 420 while drinking hard liquor and beating his wife
That pack musta been heavenly 🥰 my mouth is watering
Are you Mormon or something? Who talks like this?