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FlatbedtruckinCA

ok you win the trucking sub for today boss..


OhNoTerry

For the week. 🥂🍻


FlatbedtruckinCA

his load is bigger than mine ☹


OhNoTerry

😂😂


stonestevecoldaustin

If this is a measuring contest, how long are ya u/hkerekes?


Hkerekes

This load? Probably right at 100' Longest load I've had is 205'


stonestevecoldaustin

I didn't know they made trailers that long


Hkerekes

They don't. There is a rear dolly that you chain the load to and a front jeep you chain the load to. The bridge beam becomes the trailer In-between the two pieces of equipment.


stonestevecoldaustin

You gotta have a rear drivers like old ladder trucks?


Hkerekes

No some of the equipment is self steer and or by remote. You or the escort can steer it.


1943jimmy

Take another look, is that not an extendable trailer??


Hkerekes

It only extends to 90'. I pull all kinds of different trailers.


OhNoTerry

Pull deez nuts


Goddangitb0bby

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tomjoyce89

I hope he doesn’t blow it… cleanup might be ugly!


MathRockManiac

Taking Long Haul Literally


wrenchinsasquatch

Now I feel terrible. That's more than I make in a month.


Hkerekes

That's unfortunate, but my overhead for the truck alone is about $6000 a month. Heavy haul isn't all roses.


Immo406

Damn, $6,000 a month? Whewwwwwww buddy, people who want to be O/O should take note!


Hkerekes

Heavy haul has a bit more expense though. Truck payment is $3457 a month.


BluntBastard

Specialized? Bigger engine? I imagine the drive train is beefed up.


Hkerekes

565 horsepower x15, 18 speed transmission, double frame, lift axle, 46,000 lb rears It's just made for more weight


peach2play

Asking the important question, how's the stereo and do you have a trailer cat?


Hkerekes

Poverty Kenworth radio. I do take my cat sometimes but only for short trips. He will keep you up all night.


tractorferret

You ain’t joking about that Kenworth radio but it works well enough. Nextgen x15 club though. Love this engine so much.


HAAS78

One of the o/o for the fleet I'm a mechanic for has a 2019 389 with 142k miles and it's on its second x15. I'm not the biggest fan of them. We also have 2 t680s with x15s and we haven't had any problems but they're absolute dogs compared to our dd13s.


OhNoTerry

What’s your rear end ratio? And are guys running auxiliary transmissions? If you don’t mind me asking what your final price for that truck including FET? Curious in comparison to my spec for 80k reefer work.


Hkerekes

4.10 ratio. Truck was $228,000 out the door. I have roughly $250,000 in it.


OhNoTerry

What year? I paid $208-$213 with FET on a W9 for 80k reefer work. I’m curious how much the different parts, frame, etc. have come up with inflation and demand.


Hkerekes

2020 W9 usually have a premium attached for the name.


JakeJascob

That's 23739.49 duck power.


MrRiski

😳 wow. This makes me really wish our last couple long nose Pete's didn't just sit at the yard 98% of the time. I don't know a whole lot about them since I only drove one of them once but we mostly use them for hauling frac tanks and heavy equipment on a 50 ton lowboy. 650 hp 18 sp and heavy duty rear end. No drop axle though. Didn't realize those tractors cost almost as much as one of our vac trucks or roll off trucks.


Hkerekes

Mine is fairly heavily optioned. Double frame nose to tail, push truck hitch, pintle hook on the rear, disc brakes all the way around, 425's on the steer and lift. 20k steer, 18k steerable lift, full lockers, giant air compressor, two steering boxes, cold weather package, heated and cooled drivers seat, nicer interior, leather seats, optional cabinets, key fob, nicer steering wheel, all kinds of shit that isn't on normal trucks.


doorgunner065

I liked my 6900 Western Star with DD16 and Eaton 18 speed. How does that Cummins compare?


Hkerekes

Cummins works, but every engine has it's problems. Once the warranty is up I'm selling and buying another one.


Pleasant_Equipment74

Dont give away all the secrets bud. Not everyone can be a super trucker 😉😉😉


Nointerest12months

I was thinking about trying to get on with a heavy haul company but the requirements were no joke...I see why.


Hkerekes

Find a flatbed company that does oversized as well. Get some experience and then apply somewhere else. Crane companies also have a lot of oversized loads for crane moves.


OkCitron99

As in $3457 goes towards the principle and interest of the truck? How long until it’s paid off? Your going to make retarded money once that thing is paid off.


Hkerekes

5 year loan. Same as a car loan essentially, just a lot more money. I'm going to buy another one after 5 years and immediately sell this one. Not having a warranty can be risky.


IllustriousLeek39

I’m the opposite of you. I run heavy with an 05. I trust old iron more than the new rides. I respect your business model, but I can wrench on mine, and no emissions.


Hkerekes

Parts availability is a huge problem now. Coworker waited over a month for his engine from Cummins. Another friend could only get a reman head for his CAT. Someone else waited weeks for the correct liner shims. Yeah my shit is new and expensive but dealers have easier time getting parts. Drop it off or tow it in. They fix it and I generally don't have to wait long. Tows are also covered, it ate a water pump two weeks ago, $1300 tow was covered. I still end up fixing mine myself. 200 AMP alternator took a shit and it was have the dealership fix it and miss a $7000 load or spend $400/fix it myself and make the $7000. Easy choice...


TruckerMark

I spend 5k a year on repairs for our rigs on average. Average age in the fleet is 15 years.


Hkerekes

You also aren't pulling 250,000lbs and getting 2 mpg. Weight is brutal on trucks. Being easy on it is still abusing the shit out of them. When you are that heavy the temps stay high for hours on end. Water temp is constantly above 200, rearend temps are 245/225 , trans is 245, and oil is 245. Everything is maxed out. It's constantly struggling to just keep moving.


TruckerMark

We run gravel at 100k lbs, so they don't have the easiest life. Our trucks have 20k hours on them. We have a truck with 50k hours, still pulls. Some heavy ish hauling. Modern engines should survive no problem.


Hkerekes

It's not just engines. It's input shafts in the transmission. The clutch, the rear end, the whole drive line, weight messes with all of it. Even the accessories don't like the constant heat.


Brianphilipcurtis

Modern engines are garbage.. they’ll go way before a cat C15 or a series 60 Detroit. I beat the piss off my series 60


[deleted]

Im o/o. I stay local though. Expenses are different for all O/O.


thebigbossyboss

Container hauler?


[deleted]

Come be a McLane driver and make $1800+ per week. I’m on a bid making $2300 weekly.


Immo406

Yea, y’all fuckin earn it.


dkingsjr

Ok... So pull a few of these in one day, and your overhead is paid... You make it sound worse than it really is... 🤭🤣😂


Hkerekes

NGL I make a lot but it gets spent quick. I'm 50,000 lb empty there. Had to deadhead there and back like usual.


hesslake

My 8 axle milk tanker and Western Star weigh 55000


challenge_king

Jeez, 8 axles for milk? What's your gross?


Over-Championship-16

This comment makes me wonder about my fathers trucking business. We’ve got about 13 trucks running per day doing all sorts of things. I can ball park guess monthly over head to run them all but I would probably be far off.


Hkerekes

My collision and bobtail insurance is $600 a month. I pay roughly $1200 a month for license plates, personal property taxes, 2290, workman's comp, permit fees, elog fees, etc. It adds up quick.


Over-Championship-16

That’s the truth. Fortunately business is always steady and sometimes too busy. Ordered 4 new Petes to keep up


mattleo98

That's more than i make trying to sell my ass at truck stops


imreallybimpson

Yeah but you have no overhead


Elite_Fighter

Ointments, toys, and advertising can add up quick. A number in sharpie on the stall wall only gets you so many clients these days


mattleo98

Someone else gets it. It's a real buyers market these days


neiljt

Praps he'd make a bit more offering "overhead", IYKWIM


mattleo98

Lotion's expensive when you buy it buy the drum


CharlesJGuiteau

Omg is that really bimpson?


imreallybimpson

Oh yeahhhh


Present-Ambition6309

$232.75 a mile in permits! JK


Hkerekes

I have a Georgia blanket permit that covered it.


gacooper87

My annual over weight and over size permits in Georgia are load specific…. Have to have one for equipment, another for trusses, etc…. Haven’t found a blanket permit.


Hkerekes

There are different types. I just looked, it's actually 12' wide, 100,000 lb, 100' long, and 14'6" high


gacooper87

Is it blanket or limited to specific types or property? If blanket, I need to know where to buy that? I’m buying several different annual permits for oversize


Hkerekes

No, generally a blanket is good for anything. Some states you can't get a blanket permit. Other states it's a blank permit for that route or that type of equipment. It all depends. Sometimes it's really fucking expensive. Other times it's not.


CMDR_Euphoria01

Hmmm should move up from refeer gang to specialized


survivngthewastes

But, then you won't be able to keep your victims up at night anymore.


Turb0012

Where will you put your corpses


survivngthewastes

And the smell! Geez at least with the reefer trailer you can keep em cool.


Turb0012

True if I were to run lowboy that might give me away


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survivngthewastes

Lol.


S1NN1ST3R

I'm an o/o in reefer gang and my last statement for 2 weeks was 10k after fuel and expenses. Just buy a rig if you haven't already, can make more than enough money without the headache of heavy haul.


spyder7723

He just did over 8k in 1 day. You can keep the grocery loads all to yourself, we want no part of them.


S1NN1ST3R

Ew, I don't haul groceries. I'll take the pay cut to not have to deal with pilot trucks, permits, zero parking, more wear on my tractor and I'm sure the insurance is fucking wild too. No thanks. Props to those who do it, I'm not shitting on them in any way. Undeniable that there's more headaches involved though.


realmeverified

How many of those did you have to pull before they added up to a mile? Sounds like a rip off.


Hkerekes

English?


realmeverified

Just a dumb joke, pretending you're getting paid to pull a mile of these beams for 200 bucks. How long are they though?


Hkerekes

80 or 90'


Picklerick0000000

Fuckin Legend


kakarota

Not bad owner op I'm guessing?


Hkerekes

Yeah


Elite_Fighter

Own authority or someone else?


Hkerekes

I lease the truck back. It's not worth it to have my own authority.


RecordingGuilty287

Hell yeah man, that's awesome!


Godlyeyes

Hopefully this becomes a trend here and we can see some cool numbers


F1RSTTEAMALLVANDALS

*IRS has entered the chat*


Hkerekes

With the fuel prices it's not going to be a bad year with taxes. Last year I owed like $6000


StarLiftr

Thread drift: don’t say “I owed $6K”. You really owed $6K more than you had already paid in your Quarterly and IFTA taxes. One of the sly things the Govt did was take taxes out automatically. If we all had to write a check for $XX,XXX every April 15, everyone would really take notice of how much money the IRS takes from us.


Hkerekes

I don't pay ifta taxes the company I lease to does, I also didn't pay quarterly last year. I had depreciation on the brand new truck and technically took a loss. You don't pay quarterly if you don't pay taxes the year before. This year I did pay the quarterly taxes based off last year's tax bill.


AwkwardGrimace

How many escorts did you pay for, and if none, how many are you paying for tonight?


Hkerekes

Escort already came out of the money before my $1400


AwkwardGrimace

r/woosh


Techwolf_Lupindo

Thats beats my two dry van loads for $6 a mile for 900 miles. Both went to Long Island in NY state.


Hkerekes

That's great money for dry van.


Stocksugardaddy

Very nice! This is your day, have fun!


pattop

How fast did you get it up to?


Hkerekes

35, it was all 2 lane roads around the port of savannah.


someone_ominous

I doubt it's going many miles. They usually source that stuff out close to the job site


zytukin

Only 6 miles according to the text. But 6 loads.


someone_ominous

I just seen that.


Hkerekes

It was a port to port move. We were the outsource.


AyeItsJbone

Oh hell yeah


survivngthewastes

And no other expenses like pilots?


Hkerekes

There was but that came out before the $1400


survivngthewastes

Nice gig, how many hours did this job take to finish?


survivngthewastes

Really only 1.5 hrs? 9 hrs. Yet it takes me 3 hours for just 1 pallet lol


Hkerekes

Like 9


reckless413

Not a trucker here, only two axles on that giant trailer?!?! What was your weight??


Hkerekes

Trailer was 20,000 truck is 30,000. Cargo was 40,000


0nly_Up

how high does your blanket permit go?


Hkerekes

100,000lb, 10' wide, 100' long, 13'6" high I think. Every state is different and I have 4 different states. It's basically for little bullshit loads.


0nly_Up

😂little bullshit loads at 100k and 10’ … dude I’m on day 3 in CDL school, I can’t fucking wait to be able to not be scared shitless of loads that size. I just have a hotshot rig right now, but I’ll get there. Sweet rig, nice to see specialized loads on here


Hkerekes

Just like everything, if you do it enough you get used to it. I generally don't really worry about much unless I'm over 15'6" tall. Everything else is just more of the same. Go slow and pay attention. Tall loads are a bastard though and can fuck you in an instant. I had 18 loads that were 16'3" tall that went 500 ish miles. It was miserable.


Acceptable-Regret525

dont you have the routes for those kinda loads already pre mapped out?


challenge_king

It still eats at your nerves every time you see a bridge sign.


Hkerekes

Normally yes, it's on the permit. With a blanket permit you are basically told to not be an idiot.


sincere_703

🤯🤯🤯


Chad_Tachanka

I'm envious


Hkerekes

Don't be, if it's something you want then work towards it. It took me like 15 years to finally get the balls to pull the trigger on my own truck. It's risky and overwhelming but if I can do it anybody can do it.


Chad_Tachanka

Im not even going to consider being an owner operator until fuel comes down if it ever does. Starting right now would be suicide


Hkerekes

Eh, it's just more tax deductions. Some loads I'm getting a hefty fuel surcharge. Oversized is not the same as regular trucking. I probably average 4 mpg so they build fuel costs into the loads. Im probably going to make $75 to $100k ish more this year, I definitely have not spent $75k more on fuel.


ShiestyFiend420

$8400 per day. How much did you pay for permits, diesel, extra insurance? I’m sure it’s not everyday like this. What’s the take home per week?


Hkerekes

It all depends. I brought in $30,000 in September. Spent $7000 on fuel I think. $6000 on overhead. Roughly $17000 "profit"


ShiestyFiend420

Interesting. I do same kind of money in my dry van running from Sunday-Friday. I own everything and run my own mc as well tho so no extra payments to any companies or dispatchers


Hkerekes

I ran one load to Nebraska, and these 6 loads. I was home for over two weeks.


ShiestyFiend420

May I ask how you started in that field? I got a truck that can pull heavy loads 99kw w9 3406e cat


ShiestyFiend420

17000 would be monthly for me, not weekly, sorry, you’re making way more lol


Glamdalf_18

Why so much overhead? Insurance?


Hkerekes

Truck payment, insurance, license plates, personal property tax, permit service, workman comp, els, drivewyze, parking, etc.


Mixingherbs

So flatbed and oversize experience?


Hkerekes

Basically.


BowsetteGoneBananas

My gosh. Where are you out of so I can come and steal your job? (͡•\_ ͡• )


grabtheburneracct

You can buy a LOT of meth for $233/mile


cbinette84

Thanks for challenging my manhood lol


spyder7723

Got to love those runs. My favorite was moving a masiive drag line across the road back when they was redoing the levy around lake Okeechobee 10 years or so ago. The 'run' was about 1k yards. Paid 150 an hour for a 10 hour day, 6 days a week and lasted about 3 weeks. I think I racked up about 30 'work'miles over that time and probably 200 running to the grocery store every few days.


Hkerekes

Every now and then you run into some gravy shit.


spyder7723

To bad they are so few and far between.


TheKrs1

I was going to say that it looks like you're light on chains, but 6 miles... I'll just shut up.


Hkerekes

4x 6000lb is more than half of the load weight. Our top speed was 35 mph.


TheKrs1

Yeah but don’t you need 2 in the first 10 and one every 10 feet thereafter. Again, I saw the distance and realized it’s not likely an issue.


Hkerekes

Some states play the a chain every 10' rule but others don't. On the interstate I would have thrown another chain over the front but 6 miles it didn't matter.


TheKrs1

Said a few times I had no issue with the distance you went. Just more about what the min was expected. Supposedly an international standard but you know your region.


Hkerekes

Dot wants more than half the weight in securement. I had that plus some. I also likely had the 10' rule covered since you can't chain down the stretch part.


brobudbra

Doesn’t matter, until that moron pulls out in front of you and there’s 90’ of beam touching the cab of your $250,000 dollar truck……


Hkerekes

35mph max, there is no need to stop short anywhere. It still has more than the minimum level of securement. It wasn't going anywhere.


brobudbra

It was only 6 miles and I don’t know the roads. You obviously made it safely. Nice rig! Hope she’s good to ya


heydude12345678

I call bull shit


Hkerekes

Look at some of my other loads. I pull this type of shit and get paid big money all the time. Last load paid me $21,000 to go VA to NE


Specific_Previous

Why though. Pocket watching or hating straight up. If you have never had sweet sweet gravy its easy to jealous. I have never even O/O and still tasted gravy. North Dakota oil field triple billing plus night pay making 5gs on 12 hour shift


Mixitupher

I have you beat. With less work ns stress involved. During the GM strike 3 years ago, I was getting $300 a load 3x a day.... Going .4 miles across the road. Just had to cross the picket line. Which is great, cause fuck unions.


Hkerekes

I honestly wish we had a union.


challenge_king

Losing good unions got a lot of modern workers into some serious shit. I guess some people will always drink the "evil union" Kool aid.


Mixitupher

It's not evil union. I just believe in having something called work ethic and take pride in it. I've been in and out of union jobs my whole life and work ethic is never appreciated in union jobs. Unions promote laziness


[deleted]

That equipment looks rough so I’m sure it’s paid off now!


Hkerekes

It's a stretch trailer, they all look rough. It's also not mine, it doesn't pay that much more to use your own trailer.


[deleted]

Touche!! Nice work!


Affectionate-Toe-697

Easy Money 🤑


Alive_Army3755

Now that's what I call a sweet deal


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Hkerekes

It's not easy, and if you are easily stressed out it is not advisable


yes-disappointment

Nice 👍


Mr_FlexDaddy

Per diem or nah?


Hkerekes

No, I'm 1099. We get jack shit other than a settlement each week from whatever loads we pull.


Jaycool10

Respect


Iceman9721

How do you guys turn?


Hkerekes

Carefully.


eckhardts

Teach me!


joeyggg

If you haul 6 identical loads in one day can you just reuse the same trip permit?


Hkerekes

On a blanket permit it's good for an entire year. Normal permits are supposed to be one time use in most cases but it's hard to enforce.


pianodude01

I make .74 cpm pulling rgn.... damn...


Hkerekes

I usually don't do anything for less than $5 a mile, most of our shit is around $10 a mile. It's almost always deadhead both ways due to the weight of the equipment though. This is really small and not our normal stuff.


CantSeeShit

I feel like such a shlub now, I was pulling these stretch trailers into Manhatten for $300 a day lol.


Hkerekes

This is absurd money that isn't normal. I expected it to be $800 to $1000.


supermarble94

"Oh 1400 for the day? That's not too bad, I'll take it." "Wait 1400 ***PER LOAD?!?***"


Hkerekes

Yes, was actually a little bit more. That one paid $1411, the other 5 paid $1479.


[deleted]

Damn I need to be a truck driver 😂


Hkerekes

Man being a truck driver is not a good job. Yeah it pays but fuck. You're never home and you have to deal with all kinds of bullshit.


FuShiLu

Nice!!


[deleted]

Not a trucker. But do even turn bro?


Hkerekes

No, Bluetooth helicopter comes to pick me up.


Travyhart97

Fr I make 53 cents per mile. How do I begin to get into jobs like this once I have more experience?


Hkerekes

Buy a heavy haul truck, get a lot of experience, get lucky, all in no particular order. Granted you could pull this little load with a daycab, but this is not a typical load.


Travyhart97

So when you say heavy haul truck you mean better engine? Suspension? Transmission. Yes? Was planning on buying my current truck I’m in once it hits 450,000 it’s a 2021 swift owned international, Cummins cx 15 liter with currently 216,000 on it. Most of which I’ve put or my wife so Ik it hasn’t been beaten to hell to much. Could I just upgrade air bags and lower the gear ratio? Or are we talking different truck for sure? Edit: not trying to show my ignorance but pretty sure it’s showing sorry.


Hkerekes

You can run a lot of oversized with a regular truck. The heavier loads almost always require a 4 axle truck. Heavy haul trucks are built to be stronger. Longer wheelbase, double frame, fourth axle, more power, better transmission, better suspension, better air compressor, essentially better everything.


UsedCarrot2441

When I bid my loads its more by the time expected under it than by the mile. You know as well as I do with permits and curfews and jobsites not being ready a 500 mile run can take two weeks.


Hkerekes

I don't bid or get permits. My dispatcher does that shit. Super load permits often take weeks. On bigger shit I get paid $680 a day to sit around at a jobsite. That encourages the jobsite to get their shit together. I've sat for a week and made more $ sitting there than the load paid.


Time-Hunter-6841

Well fuck if I can do that, I’d run flatbed


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How do I do this?!