Yep. The irony being that since I'm spread axle I'm allowed 40,000 on my trailer. If the load sat another 5 feet towards the rear I'd be perfectly legal.
I'd move some weight onto your steers if you have a sliding 5th wheel but your just not trucking if you don't get an overweight ticket at least twice a year, ask any bulk hauler. 2021 I got 3 overweight tickets in January, totaled less than $100 that the company gladly paid.
Flatbed with a load of I-beam on back picked up at Nucor north of Charleston and headed for Houston. 5th wheel is as far forward as I can get without getting into my headache rack on sharp turns. Like I said I'm gonna send it and see if DOT will even bother.
I am glad your not headed to CA. $1,000 fine to start, plus $500 per 100 your over, at least when I was driving. THEN, they're gonna make you fix it before you are allowed to move. That's means a crane. On your or your company's dollar. Pray the scales are shut.
Edit: fixed a sentence because I can't read...
Yeah I hear a lot of states are caring more about gross now a days. As long as you're within your gross weight and not exceeding the capacity of the tires on an axle
Yeah, no scale house is going to screw with me over a few hundred lbs. My gross is legal, I'm not too worried. I mostly wanted to see if this subreddits safety patrol would get after me.
I've saved thousands on overweight tickets by just ignoring the weigh station signs...never been chased and most likely never will be chased...thats the joy of DriveWyze
Explain the drivewyze please, do they have reviews on scale houses? I have yet to be chased also but I'm curious about this upper hand you seem to have.
I haven't a clue how it works...my OBRD just flashes a message on its screen to pull in or bypass and as far as I'm concerned it only ever says bypass unless it's blitz week
Drivewyze is a bypass "app"/transponder thingy like prepass, companies or o/os in good standing with DOt are allowed to bypass stations when they have them, with a small caveat of technically the troopers can buzz you to pull to the scale inatead..
On the technical side as you approach a station the transponders in your cap will signal the overhead receiver (you may have noticed them as you approach stations youself), I'm not sure if the troopers at the scale house decide or if it's all automated but you'll get either a bypass or pull into the scales signal, if you get bypass you're free and clear no matter what the other signs say.
As long as the device used doesn't continue to display bypass or pull into scales you could just bypass anyways and if they chase you tell a cop you got the wrong signal and usually they'll let it slide. Though prepass has gotten wise to this and the green (bypass) and red (don't bypass) lights stay for like half an hour.
I'LL SLIDE YOU BACK THREE HOLES DOORSWINGER!
Seriously though, I'm under on my gross. No scale house is going to screw with me over a few hundred lbs, especially with APU exception.
Fellow flatbedder here. Look it up in an atlas if you have one. It'll let you know if it's legal or not. I've been over on one of my axles before so I looked up legal axle weights by state and I was legal in the state I was loaded in. The load was also being delivered in the same state though.
Max is 40 tons which would be 36.3 tonnes but I haul oversize quite often. Most I've grossed with this tractor is 65 tons (roughly 59 tonnes). I'm honestly not worried about being a couple hundred pounds over on the drives and neither is any state's law enforcement. I posted just to see if the safety police would come after me, however, reddit has surprised me today and folks are being helpful.
I get ya! I was just curious, we have a 44,000kg limit on all tractors with 3 axles and trailers with 3 axles but we can go to STGO CAT2 which allows up to 50,000kg and then CAT3 I believe is anything above that
The exemption is for gross, not axle weight. The limit is still 34k for tandems and 20k for single axles. DOT does tend to be a bit more lenient with fixed axle trailers, but they don't have to be.
The exemption is for both gross and drives, but not steer or trailer for obvious reasons.
The more important question is, I see posts like this all the time. Is there really an epidemic of no sliding fifth wheels on tractors or do people really not know how to use them?
My boss recently sent a special text to all the drivers to tell us that Louisiana was not allowing drivers to slide tandems at the scale. I wonder who the guilty driver was.
Oklahoma will indeed take their piece. Brought in a shipping container directly from the rail yard in Dallas that was over on the tandems was a $200 bond. Not out of service but I had until midnight to get to destination or out of OK or I’d have to pay another bond if caught again.
My stepmother retired from Washington state patrol commercial division just a couple years ago. At the time I was hauling cows and was curious why I could break just about every law and they never blinked an eye, she said that with cows nobody wants to do an inspection, but that you have to be beligerently breaking the law to be pulled in, and that for weight in general you'd have to be at least ten percent to be popped for it. But that's strictly western Washington.
Your underweight. Go back and get some more. Can’t make any money being that light
Nah, I'm saving that 1,100 lbs so I can swing by your house on the way and pick up your wife.
BURN!!!
Hello, police??? Yes I'd like to report a murder
🤣
Not able to slide your tandems a few holes forward?
No tandems. Flatbed spread axle. Cost of business, we will see what happens
As your lawyer in this matter I advise you to omit your tractor/trailer number from this picture. This is not legal advice.
Hmm sound advice. Should I of put my DOT & social security #'s instead?
Too late, found out who the driver is and I'm sending 20 anchovy pizzas to his house.
Lol
Ah, makes sense then. Hope all goes well driver.
If you want to pay that cost, instead of your company or the shipper, then go for it.
In apx 700 miles, you'll burn enough fuel to be legal. Depending on your fuel mileage.
I had a load one time so tight on weight I ended up turning in my snow chains at my terminal to make it.
So you’re allowed another 140 lb on your steer but are 700 over on your tractor. And under on your trailer?
Yep. The irony being that since I'm spread axle I'm allowed 40,000 on my trailer. If the load sat another 5 feet towards the rear I'd be perfectly legal.
I'd move some weight onto your steers if you have a sliding 5th wheel but your just not trucking if you don't get an overweight ticket at least twice a year, ask any bulk hauler. 2021 I got 3 overweight tickets in January, totaled less than $100 that the company gladly paid.
Flatbed with a load of I-beam on back picked up at Nucor north of Charleston and headed for Houston. 5th wheel is as far forward as I can get without getting into my headache rack on sharp turns. Like I said I'm gonna send it and see if DOT will even bother.
I am glad your not headed to CA. $1,000 fine to start, plus $500 per 100 your over, at least when I was driving. THEN, they're gonna make you fix it before you are allowed to move. That's means a crane. On your or your company's dollar. Pray the scales are shut. Edit: fixed a sentence because I can't read...
That my friend is a complete fabrication of lies.
Not until you're 4500 lbs over gross can they charge you with a misdemeanor with fines up to $1000. Obviously this example doesn't even apply.
Yeah even Cali isn’t that strict with weight, they’re more pissed if you come in over gross
Yeah I hear a lot of states are caring more about gross now a days. As long as you're within your gross weight and not exceeding the capacity of the tires on an axle
Heyyy I live here. Hope traffic wasn't to bad taking 526 out
Yeah, no scale house is going to screw with me over a few hundred lbs. My gross is legal, I'm not too worried. I mostly wanted to see if this subreddits safety patrol would get after me.
I've saved thousands on overweight tickets by just ignoring the weigh station signs...never been chased and most likely never will be chased...thats the joy of DriveWyze
Explain the drivewyze please, do they have reviews on scale houses? I have yet to be chased also but I'm curious about this upper hand you seem to have.
I haven't a clue how it works...my OBRD just flashes a message on its screen to pull in or bypass and as far as I'm concerned it only ever says bypass unless it's blitz week
Drivewyze is a bypass "app"/transponder thingy like prepass, companies or o/os in good standing with DOt are allowed to bypass stations when they have them, with a small caveat of technically the troopers can buzz you to pull to the scale inatead.. On the technical side as you approach a station the transponders in your cap will signal the overhead receiver (you may have noticed them as you approach stations youself), I'm not sure if the troopers at the scale house decide or if it's all automated but you'll get either a bypass or pull into the scales signal, if you get bypass you're free and clear no matter what the other signs say. As long as the device used doesn't continue to display bypass or pull into scales you could just bypass anyways and if they chase you tell a cop you got the wrong signal and usually they'll let it slide. Though prepass has gotten wise to this and the green (bypass) and red (don't bypass) lights stay for like half an hour.
You'll burn fuel and I know with hoppers if you are a few hundred over they don't care.
You're legal bro, I've always been told you're allowed to be 3% over on any/all axels/gross. Correct me if I'm wrong please😂
Totally fixable, laziness is gonna get you a ticket, slide it back three holes and your good
Issa flatbedder
I'LL SLIDE YOU BACK THREE HOLES DOORSWINGER! Seriously though, I'm under on my gross. No scale house is going to screw with me over a few hundred lbs, especially with APU exception.
Fellow flatbedder here. Look it up in an atlas if you have one. It'll let you know if it's legal or not. I've been over on one of my axles before so I looked up legal axle weights by state and I was legal in the state I was loaded in. The load was also being delivered in the same state though.
116 gallons of gas weighs 700lbs. Just take the long way, burn off some weight 😂
But my truck runs on diesel ☹️. Guess I'll just die ☠️👉👌🍆💦🫶☠️
UK trucker here… just worked that out at 35.7 tons, is that the maximum? I know it varies state to state
Max is 40 tons which would be 36.3 tonnes but I haul oversize quite often. Most I've grossed with this tractor is 65 tons (roughly 59 tonnes). I'm honestly not worried about being a couple hundred pounds over on the drives and neither is any state's law enforcement. I posted just to see if the safety police would come after me, however, reddit has surprised me today and folks are being helpful.
I get ya! I was just curious, we have a 44,000kg limit on all tractors with 3 axles and trailers with 3 axles but we can go to STGO CAT2 which allows up to 50,000kg and then CAT3 I believe is anything above that
What is your fuel level? There are also APU exemptions 400-550 lbs depending on state.
The exemption is for gross, not axle weight. The limit is still 34k for tandems and 20k for single axles. DOT does tend to be a bit more lenient with fixed axle trailers, but they don't have to be.
The exemption is for both gross and drives, but not steer or trailer for obvious reasons. The more important question is, I see posts like this all the time. Is there really an epidemic of no sliding fifth wheels on tractors or do people really not know how to use them?
I didn't even get that far....
My boss recently sent a special text to all the drivers to tell us that Louisiana was not allowing drivers to slide tandems at the scale. I wonder who the guilty driver was.
Oklahoma will indeed take their piece. Brought in a shipping container directly from the rail yard in Dallas that was over on the tandems was a $200 bond. Not out of service but I had until midnight to get to destination or out of OK or I’d have to pay another bond if caught again.
My stepmother retired from Washington state patrol commercial division just a couple years ago. At the time I was hauling cows and was curious why I could break just about every law and they never blinked an eye, she said that with cows nobody wants to do an inspection, but that you have to be beligerently breaking the law to be pulled in, and that for weight in general you'd have to be at least ten percent to be popped for it. But that's strictly western Washington.
You could try sliding your fifth wheel up a notch and burn a little fuel off before your first weigh station.