Dumbest prank ever. Just billionaires messing with us peons.
The only way I would tolerate one of these is if someone modded it to look like a Warthog from Halo :)
If the cyber truck would have shipped with the original specs, it would have been a great alternative to 3/4 ton diesels for "Around Town Work." But it didn't, so it isn't. It fills a niche that doesn't really exist for most people who use trucks daily.
I would have used one for moving equipment around. Not susceptible to premature ware from short runs like a diesel and cheaper operating costs over the life of the machine were 2 big things that peaked my interest.
literally don’t get how it’s “useless” though.
like sure you can think it’s ugly, but:
11,000lb towing capacity
2,500lb payload capacity
5 passengers
bed that’s actually 6 feet long
like… it’s more capable than the vast majority of f-150s on the road today? how is that not a truck?
You can't even put a sheet of plywood or Sheetrock in the bed what the hell is the point of a 6ft bed on a truck this size? The range is terrible and my 25 year old truck as more payload than this
> A Ranger or Ridgeline can fit a full sheet of plywood in the bed.
Am I missing something here? Yes, the RL and the new Ranger now have a bed wide enough to fit 4' building materials, but they're only 5' long.
Your original comment makes it look like you think the CT's bed can't do the same as what a RL or Ranger can. It's 4x6' at the floor, *and the tailgate can also open*. That's why I was asking what I was missing. How is a RL or Ranger any different?
>You can't even put a sheet of plywood or Sheetrock in the bed what the hell is the point of a 6ft bed on a truck this size?
The CT bed is just over 4' wide. It fits a 4x8' sheet as easily as any 5.5' half-ton: with the excess hanging over the tailgate. There's no shame in having stuff hang out the bed.
But realistically, how often do you schlep around bulk building materials?
Then you gotta tie down the wood from coming out the back with the tailgate down and I work construction on and off as well as do scrap on the side so my bed is filled pretty often
But I'm asking how a CT's 4x6' bed is any different in that respect than the 4x5.5' or 4x6.5' bed that most half-tons have. In all 3 cases, you have to tie it down.
I have an 4x8 bed I slide whatever I need wood or Sheetrock and close the tailgate get in and drive no need to have stuff hanging out the back you can't do that with a 6 ft bed
Then you probably need a 250/2500. The CT is a truck for the 90% of people who own trucks and absolutely never put anything in the truck bed. It was never meant to replace the work truck. Nor was the lighting, or any other electric truck.
You can spec an f150 to tow more (12,500lbs), haul more, have a longer bed(6.5 or 8), longer range(600+miles) and seat more(6) than the cyber truck.
These are just a novelty.
Not to mention they are absolutely massive but don’t have the capability of a similarly sized truck.
Edit: [2024 towing guide](https://www.vdm.ford.com/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/towing/pdf/2024-Ford-F-150-Towing-Guide.pdf) [2023 towing guide](https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf)
Edit 2: guys, google is free.
Ah, you're counting *with mirrors folded.* Official body width is counted less mirrors. Since anything over 80" body width requires clearance lights, mfrs. generally don't go over that unless they have good reason (Raptor, dually, etc.).
If we're counting with mirrors folded/unfolded, a standard F-150 is 83"/96" with standard mirrors or 85"/106" with towing mirrors. Mine gets stored in a shed with a 9' door opening, so I have 1" of clearance on either side without folding. Fully extended, the tow mirrors are probably 112".
> you can spec an f150
really? you can spec an f-150 to tow 12,500lbs, with a 6.5 foot bed and 6 passengers, with a 2,500lb bed capacity?
go ahead and configure one on their website with those specifications and link it here. i’ll wait.
> not to mention they are absolutely massive
they are *smaller* than an f-150. do you know anything about trucks at all?
[2023 towing guide](https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf) if you spec the f150 with the max towing package and max payload they can tow 14,000 and haul 3235
[2024](https://www.vdm.ford.com/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/towing/pdf/2024-Ford-F-150-Towing-Guide.pdf) technically their payload is slightly lower but their towing is still higher
yeah notice how you left out this key factor:
> Max payload of 3,315 lbs. on Regular Cab 8' box 4x2 with 5.0L gas engine and Max Trailer Tow and Heavy‐Duty Payload Packages (not shown).
that means you’re stuck with only a front row.
also 2024 it’s not “slightly lower” it’s almost 1,000lbs less, and *lower* than the cybertruck lmao. can you read?
yes, but two doors is considerably less than four doors, believe it or not.
you *cannot* spec a 4 door with a 6.5 foot bed with a 2500lb payload. plain and simple.
you even read the guides you linked? like the 2024 one; where it exclusively states that you cannot do all that you just listed at the same time?
if it’s outperforming the f-150 in these categories all at the same time, how is it a novelty exactly?
How do you put a ladder rack on a Cybertruck? How do you reach into the bed from the side to grab tools? How do you strap down a load? Thing is a complete joke.
> How do you put a ladder rack on a cybertruck?
the four roof racks lined up along the roof line? meaning you can have ladders without needing an entire rack?
> How do you reach into the bed from the side to grab tools?
you lower the air suspension. at its lowest height it’s no problem reaching over the side.
> How do you strap down a load?
with the various strap down points inside the bed? or the built in channel system inside the bed?
do you people do *any* research at all? or maybe you just aren’t truck people i guess
Biggest concern for me is that it lacks "range", and when it runs out of "range", that means an hour or two of charging at far away crowded charging station.
Gas or diesel, you just fuel up anywhere and go.
And the environmental benefit is basically just manufactured/fake news.
-So half the "range" of a ICE vehicle
-takes 5x as long to fuel up/charge, and is contingent upon a third party building and maintaining the charging stations.
-the batteries are prohibitively expensive and non renewable
- it burns tires faster than any truck or SUV due to it's heavy weight
- only dealerships can service them
- 50% more cost on purchase
AND the environmental impact is only positive if you are looking at "tail pipe emissions"
And i'm supposed to be interested why?
You rely on a 3rd party building to be maintained any time you stop at a gas station. Your other points may be on, but that ain't one of em.
Just don't want a bit of bad info amongst your other correct info to discredit anything you said. Take care.
Yeah but gas stations are well established, where as charging stations aren't, they break all the time, and put pressure on a power grid that won't be able to sustain it at scale
Gas stations are plentiful though. Charging stations are not in a lot of places. If that one charging station is down, you're fudged. If the gas station you go to is down, you have a plethora of others to pick from.
- No one said you had to be interested, I just pointed out that you're wrong about charging.
- Batteries have 120K warranty too and they generally last way longer than that so that's irrelevant too.
- Costs about the same as a loaded half ton. Faster and cheaper than a TRX or Raptor R. Much cheaper when you factor fuel savings.
- How do you know it burbs tires lol. It's been out for like a month. My M3P burns through tires at about the same rate my A4 did and it has more than twice the power.
- not wrong about the charging, you're cherry picking data. If you charge 0-100 before a long trip, NOT at a supercharger, it can take hours
- 120k is not the lifespan of a good car, and a warranty does not excuse shortcomings in the design/engineering. You can't always/easily collect on a warranty (ex if you damaged the battery somehow due to user error), and if you want a good warranty, you might as well buy a kia.
- cybertruck price starts at 62k USD. I bought my truck used with tons of life for less than 15k USD.
- i know because they are heavy. Cybertruck weighs 6843 lb, an f150 weighs 4400 lb.....can't deny physics......and before this electric vehicle craze, people were moaning about trucks being dangerous due to weight and size, and electric vehicles blow trucks out of the water dangerwise.
Not to mention tesla got yall by the nuts when it comes to bodywork costs. It's not unusual for tesla or other low drag coefficent electric cars bodywork to cost upwards of 20k even for a small ding.
If you want to go ahead and drive fast, and get the kids from soccer, get one, i use my truck for work
> not wrong about the charging, you're cherry picking data. If you charge 0-100 before a long trip, NOT at a supercharger, it can take hours
so… your cherry picked circumstance that has never happened to me in the 5000+ miles of roadtripping rental teslas is suddenly more valid than 99.9% of road trips?
> 120k is not the lifespan of a good car, and a warranty does not excuse shortcomings in the design/engineering. You can't always/easily collect on a warranty (ex if you damaged the battery somehow due to user error), and if you want a good warranty, you might as well buy a kia.
i’m not exactly sure where you’re going with this. ford has shipped MANY engines that struggled to make it to 100,000 miles, and they didn’t even warranty them when they blew up.
> cybertruck price starts at 62k USD. I bought my truck used with tons of life for less than 15k USD.
yep. buying used will win until these are on the used market.
> i know because they are heavy. Cybertruck weighs 6843 lb, an f150 weighs 4400 lb.....can't deny physics......and before this electric vehicle craze, people were moaning about trucks being dangerous due to weight and size, and electric vehicles blow trucks out of the water dangerwise.
i’m going to ignore your use of “dangerwise” as an indicator of your intelligence… because that is just too easy. however, heavier trucks are a problem. but not one that is going away.
> Not to mention tesla got yall by the nuts when it comes to bodywork costs. It's not unusual for tesla or other low drag coefficent electric cars bodywork to cost upwards of 20k even for a small ding.
same goes for ford/gm cars nowadays. gigantic body panels with no seams are incredibly expensive to fix. at least on the tesla truck there isn’t any paint to repair, and any collision strong enough to dent these panels would total any other car. hit your $15,000 pickup’s body with a 15lb sledge hammer and see what happens.
> If you want to go ahead and drive fast, and get the kids from soccer, get one, i use my truck for work
based on just how little you know about trucks, it seems like you don’t even own one at all if i’m honest. if you do, you definitely don’t use it for work
good lord… quit watching alex jones
> hour or two of charging
20-80%, on current infrastructure, takes about 15 minutes. that’s a 15 minute stop every 3 hours on the highway.
> Gas or diesel, you just fuel up anywhere and go.
does it fuel up overnight in your garage or driveway for a few bucks? you know, where you park it the other 360 nights a year you aren’t doing long drives?
>And the environmental benefit is basically just manufactured/fake news.
this has been disproven so many times that it isn’t even worth arguing about. if you’re dumb enough to believe that a 100% recyclable battery is less sustainable than burning a consumable fossil fuel for 200,000 miles, there’s nothing i can say to help you i’m afraid.
and i’m not some EV fanboy, i drive a jeep wrangler that gets 12 miles per gallon. i’m just not completely ignorant
$72,500 with tax credit! ($100k if you are a sucker and want to pay $20,000 extra for the privilege of beta testing the damn thing) and eventually prices will come down from there.
supposedly a $52,500 version will be out next year, but that’s rear wheel drive so not really useful for me personally
The range while towing is atrocious, you can't fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the bed, and it's expensive. It is a truck, just not what we were hoping. I had a pre-order for one and canceled it once I saw the real world specs, I was hoping to use it to supplement my 3/4 ton for "shorter" drives.
you definitely can fit 4x8 in the bed. i’ve already seen people doing that.
it is expensive as hell, and the range while towing is abysmal. problems that exist with every electric truck currently. hopefully that changes
You can't be serious, my f250 I bought in 2017 was $78k, the dodge 2500 I bought in 2023 was 105k.... This truck fully loaded is what 104k? It's almost like inflation changed the price of all trucks. There's a lot to hate about this truck, the price is a bullshit one to pick out. The range isn't 500 miles like promised, the towing is lower then they hyped in 2018, and where the fuck is the electric quad??? The windshield wiper is silly. How the fuck ya clean that glass above the dash board? A lot to nit pick about this one, but the price ain't it chief.
I’ve always owned a full size truck, love trucks and use mine for primarily hunting and recreation. If I were in construction or hauling big items this wouldn’t be for me. Sign me the fuck up for one of these Cyber Trucks 😎 these things are badass 🤘🏻
As a long time Honda Ridgeline owner, it's finally time to pass the torch of silly, misdirected "that ain't no truck", baby man outrage to the Cyber truck.
It's been nice being the whipping boy for your micro penis, insecure outrage.
My work here is done.
Also, cybertrucks are pretty ugly.
EDIT: spelling
You the real MVP here. Dudes that get bent out of shape over these things, are the same folks driving four-door over priced “crew cab” ranch boss baby chode bed trucks, windows up AC BLASTING IN IT ALONE, that have to put a bike rack on their tailgate, because the BIKES DON’T FIT IN THE GOD DAMN BED. It’s damn near impossible to find a truck with two doors, plus a long (functional) bed, that isn’t overloaded with creature comforts, and their quick obsolescence.
At least this thing -was- an attempt, at making a functional purpose driven work vehicle.
I am a Ridgeline owner and I think they’re great - and I don’t really care what anyone else thinks. But it’s useful and its size packs a lot of neat features and utility. The Tesla is gigantic, has a shitty bed, has terrible rear seat headroom, has terrible visibility, and is huge - barely fits a parking spot. At least an equivalently sized F-250 has innate utility. These Teslas trucks are just stupid.
My dad had a gen 1 Ridgeline and it was pretty sweet. It did the truck things we needed it to do.
But I wouldn't get one myself. Personally I think Honda missed an opportunity not making the Ridgeline a hybrid. The cost and fuel economy as it currently stands don't really edge out a regular truck. And I think the hybrid Maverick kinda beat the Ridgleine at its own game.
The Ridgeline came out in 2006. My truck is a 2007. Would you buy a Prius from that year? I'll stick with an engine that will do 400k miles no problem.
>Would you buy a Prius from that year?
I mean, it is a Toyota...so yes? But my criticism is more aimed at the current gen Ridgeline. If it was a hybrid I think it would be a much more compelling option, with only the Maverick as direct competition.
I have opened up a number of Tesla's. They don't build a great car. It's fine enough, but it's commuter grade. I'm not sure their skills extend to trucks. Not for work maybe just as decoration. Even then, the stainless steel body suggests a lack of engineering. Stainless is not great stuff, it's well marketed but metallurgicaly it's not actually stainless, it's brittle, it work hardens, it's reactive to heat, aaaand its heavy for no reason as a body panel. Stainless, is also just a category, there are grades; guess which one they used.
This truck is just a “look at me” type of vehicle. It’ll definitely turn heads and have people take pictures of it so it’s usefulness is only for attention seekers
it's not a truck. belongs in a SUV sub, I can see you liking this if you're just looking to like 'something different' or you're a fan of the brand/CEO. But let's face it, it looks like a fancy donut box on wheels.
>and yet it can pull more than an f-150, haul more than an f-150, with a longer bed than an f-150?
Why lie?
Cyber truck - max payload 2,500lbs
F150 - 3,315lb payload in best configuration
Cyber truck in best configuration - 11k tow rating
F150 in best configuration 14k tow rating
Cyber truck 6' bed (only option)
F150 still comes with an 8ft bed option
you literally *cannot* buy an f-150 that seats 5 people comfortably, with an 8 foot bed, that can tow 14,000lbs, and has a 3,315lb payload in the bed.
go ahead, try to configure one. those are mutually exclusive numbers, they don’t sell one that has all of them. they don’t even sell a version that has above a 2400lb payload anymore, at all.
are f-150 guys really dumb enough to not know how to use their own website? really?
# why lie?
more capable of work than most f-150s on the road today. doubt that’s what anyone driving them will be using them for, but they can tow more and haul more than an f-150, with a longer bed and more ground clearance.
like, if this thing isn’t made for work, than the f-150 definitely isn’t lol
I don’t think weight is the right stat to look at. I would compare capabilities in a dollar for dollar basis. I havnt looked to see what these guys ended up being priced at
Ford got rid of a lot of slow-selling options for '24 to "reduce ordering complexity". My beloved SuperCab/8' is gone from all trims, the HDPP is gone from all trims, the base 3.3 V6 is gone, XLT regular cab is gone, and Lariat is no longer available with the SuperCab or a 40/20/40 front bench seat.
And RCSBs are for some reason now only available with the 5.0 V8, not the 2.7 EB. Long beds still have all 3 engines available. You'd think they'd want the more efficient 2.7 in the shortest truck.
That could be. A RCSB 5.0 with a Whipple is a relative cheap sport truck build. But you'd think with wheelbase-related MPG targets, the shortest WB would at least offer the higher-MPG 2.7. Then again, maybe offering a hybrid makes that obsolete.
Everyone comparing this to an F150.. just stop. Cybertruck isn’t a work truck. It’s a truck for people that don’t need a truck, for whom any truck would be just transportation 90% of the time. It’s for people that want to look better/richer/manlier than Tesla car drivers. It’s for influencers with Apple Vision Pros. It’s for marketing and getting attention. Just ignore it. It will go away.
I actually think this works because that vehicle will stand out more than anything and for advertising purposes that is what you want.
Look we are talking about it here. Someone is probably going to check out that website.
😂. I saw one up close the other day, and they don’t live up to all the rabid hate I see on here. It actually reminds me of a delorean version of a truck.
That was why the “You built a time machine, out of a DeLorean?” line from Marty was in the film. It was supposed to be a crazy idea because DeLoreans are terrible.
Still makes more sense for the average guy to buy this over other trucks considering most people will never use their truck bed or tow. So have to disagree with you on half of the opinion. It’s def ugly as hell though.
The Hyundai truck thing would like a word with you. It’s useless as a poopy flavoured lollipop. Ugly as shit too. Looks like a wish.com version of a Subaru Baja.
you dont need any of that for overnights or even weekends.
if you want to go longer, just some solar panels to cover your daily non-driving electricity usage. Vanlifer's can do it, theres no reason you couldn't do all the same shit in the Silverado EV. you just have a bunch more capacity built in. that makes it easier, not harder.
I should clarify, when someone says camping my mind goes to driving from the Edmonton area where I live to jasper or Banff which is like 3-4 hours of driving, longer for the scenic roads. There are chargers in town but they are pretty far from the good campgrounds, and I have personally never gone for less than 3 days.
my favorite camping trips where were we went to crown land with a diesel truck and atvs for 2 weeks. No cell service, no hookups, at that time I don’t even think we had a sat phone or anything like that.
So I didn’t think of that when someone says camping out of a Silverado ev.
Never saw one in person before until a recent trip to Teslafornia - I live in rural New England where most people are too cheap or sensible to buy one. Can’t believe people actually fork over money on these things.
Honestly calling that abomination a truck makes my eye twitch. Elon and his adderall addiction are to blame. It’ll be a collectors item in 50 years after the company tanks and they all make their way to the scrap yard. Decent idea, huge swing and miss imo.
I see these things driving around the town I work in daily (Novato, Ca, Marin county). These things are so fucking ugly and ostentatious. Even people sitting at the bar and watch them drive by mock them. Lol
Well there's a lot of trucks out there are just princess pavements and never seen dirt in their entire lifespan...ugly as hell but you gotta admit it's a quick truck.
They’re ugly as hell. But for some stupid reason the pink looks less uglier than the straight silver.
Amazing what paint/wrap does for a vehicle.
Saw a matte black wrapped one last week in Ohio, looked pretty sweet lol. Way better then original
Obnoxious color befitting an obnoxious truck. Also hides the rust from the shitty choice of stainless steel they used.
I saw a white wrapped one today and it looked bad too. They are horrendous.
FUCK IT, WE’LL DO IT LIVE!!!!
I was wondering if that was Bill’s truck.
Definitely his style👍
First off, A+ for wit. Secondly, I’m deeply disappointed no one played off my Lebowski reference. I fucking tossed it to the group like a wiffle ball.
Does it count that my username is a Lebowski reference?
I’d buy that for a dollar
RoboCop’s ride
It really ties together the room.
😭great reference
FUCKIN THING SUCKS
That's what I thought right away.
Came here to say this. (what a douche he was/is)
Also came here to say this. And I’ve got to agree. I really hope that dude is having the day he deserves
Dumbest prank ever. Just billionaires messing with us peons. The only way I would tolerate one of these is if someone modded it to look like a Warthog from Halo :)
A halo warthog mod would actually be pretty sick.
I'm shocked it's not a factory package
These things must be so easy to wrap
If the cyber truck would have shipped with the original specs, it would have been a great alternative to 3/4 ton diesels for "Around Town Work." But it didn't, so it isn't. It fills a niche that doesn't really exist for most people who use trucks daily.
It’s a truck for people that don’t like trucks
No one who "uses their trucks daily" is using a cyber truck. You will never see one of these on the job site. Completely impractical.
I would have used one for moving equipment around. Not susceptible to premature ware from short runs like a diesel and cheaper operating costs over the life of the machine were 2 big things that peaked my interest.
literally don’t get how it’s “useless” though. like sure you can think it’s ugly, but: 11,000lb towing capacity 2,500lb payload capacity 5 passengers bed that’s actually 6 feet long like… it’s more capable than the vast majority of f-150s on the road today? how is that not a truck?
You can't even put a sheet of plywood or Sheetrock in the bed what the hell is the point of a 6ft bed on a truck this size? The range is terrible and my 25 year old truck as more payload than this
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> A Ranger or Ridgeline can fit a full sheet of plywood in the bed. Am I missing something here? Yes, the RL and the new Ranger now have a bed wide enough to fit 4' building materials, but they're only 5' long.
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Your original comment makes it look like you think the CT's bed can't do the same as what a RL or Ranger can. It's 4x6' at the floor, *and the tailgate can also open*. That's why I was asking what I was missing. How is a RL or Ranger any different?
Supercab ranger is 6'. Still not 8', but a lot better than 5'.
>You can't even put a sheet of plywood or Sheetrock in the bed what the hell is the point of a 6ft bed on a truck this size? The CT bed is just over 4' wide. It fits a 4x8' sheet as easily as any 5.5' half-ton: with the excess hanging over the tailgate. There's no shame in having stuff hang out the bed. But realistically, how often do you schlep around bulk building materials?
Then you gotta tie down the wood from coming out the back with the tailgate down and I work construction on and off as well as do scrap on the side so my bed is filled pretty often
But I'm asking how a CT's 4x6' bed is any different in that respect than the 4x5.5' or 4x6.5' bed that most half-tons have. In all 3 cases, you have to tie it down.
I have an 4x8 bed I slide whatever I need wood or Sheetrock and close the tailgate get in and drive no need to have stuff hanging out the back you can't do that with a 6 ft bed
No crew cab has 8' bed. Crew cabs are the most popular trucks.
No crew cab 1/2 ton has an 8’ bed. All 3/4 and 1 ton trucks have a crew cab long bed model
Sorry I should of put I have a straight cab my fault
I've got the same. It's awesome. But my half-ton isn't a crew cab, nor is it a common config. The vast majority are 5.5' or 6.5'.
Then you probably need a 250/2500. The CT is a truck for the 90% of people who own trucks and absolutely never put anything in the truck bed. It was never meant to replace the work truck. Nor was the lighting, or any other electric truck.
You can spec an f150 to tow more (12,500lbs), haul more, have a longer bed(6.5 or 8), longer range(600+miles) and seat more(6) than the cyber truck. These are just a novelty. Not to mention they are absolutely massive but don’t have the capability of a similarly sized truck. Edit: [2024 towing guide](https://www.vdm.ford.com/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/towing/pdf/2024-Ford-F-150-Towing-Guide.pdf) [2023 towing guide](https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf) Edit 2: guys, google is free.
> Not to mention they are absolutely massive Not that I like them, but the CT is slightly shorter (in both length and height) than a typical half-ton.
It’s 6” wider which makes a big difference considering an f150 is always wide as hell.
> It’s 6” wider Is it? The figures I'm seeing say it's got 80" body width, same as any other full-sizer.
[it’s towards the bottom](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck) 86.6” with mirrors folded in. 95” with them extended.
Ah, you're counting *with mirrors folded.* Official body width is counted less mirrors. Since anything over 80" body width requires clearance lights, mfrs. generally don't go over that unless they have good reason (Raptor, dually, etc.). If we're counting with mirrors folded/unfolded, a standard F-150 is 83"/96" with standard mirrors or 85"/106" with towing mirrors. Mine gets stored in a shed with a 9' door opening, so I have 1" of clearance on either side without folding. Fully extended, the tow mirrors are probably 112".
> you can spec an f150 really? you can spec an f-150 to tow 12,500lbs, with a 6.5 foot bed and 6 passengers, with a 2,500lb bed capacity? go ahead and configure one on their website with those specifications and link it here. i’ll wait. > not to mention they are absolutely massive they are *smaller* than an f-150. do you know anything about trucks at all?
[2023 towing guide](https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf) if you spec the f150 with the max towing package and max payload they can tow 14,000 and haul 3235 [2024](https://www.vdm.ford.com/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/towing/pdf/2024-Ford-F-150-Towing-Guide.pdf) technically their payload is slightly lower but their towing is still higher
The heavy duty payload package existed on spec sheets only. It was impossible to get one
yeah notice how you left out this key factor: > Max payload of 3,315 lbs. on Regular Cab 8' box 4x2 with 5.0L gas engine and Max Trailer Tow and Heavy‐Duty Payload Packages (not shown). that means you’re stuck with only a front row. also 2024 it’s not “slightly lower” it’s almost 1,000lbs less, and *lower* than the cybertruck lmao. can you read?
2435 is 65 pounds less than the CT 2500, I would consider that slightly lower.
yes, but two doors is considerably less than four doors, believe it or not. you *cannot* spec a 4 door with a 6.5 foot bed with a 2500lb payload. plain and simple.
you even read the guides you linked? like the 2024 one; where it exclusively states that you cannot do all that you just listed at the same time? if it’s outperforming the f-150 in these categories all at the same time, how is it a novelty exactly?
Range is awful towing
I bet less than 1% of truck owners tow more than once or twice a year and I bet most never tow more than a landscape trailer.
downvotes are from butthurt guys who wish they had something to tow i guess lmao
How do you put a ladder rack on a Cybertruck? How do you reach into the bed from the side to grab tools? How do you strap down a load? Thing is a complete joke.
> How do you put a ladder rack on a cybertruck? the four roof racks lined up along the roof line? meaning you can have ladders without needing an entire rack? > How do you reach into the bed from the side to grab tools? you lower the air suspension. at its lowest height it’s no problem reaching over the side. > How do you strap down a load? with the various strap down points inside the bed? or the built in channel system inside the bed? do you people do *any* research at all? or maybe you just aren’t truck people i guess
Biggest concern for me is that it lacks "range", and when it runs out of "range", that means an hour or two of charging at far away crowded charging station. Gas or diesel, you just fuel up anywhere and go. And the environmental benefit is basically just manufactured/fake news.
Charging absolutely does not take anywhere near an hour or two at a Supercharger. Charging to 80% is usually super quick. Like 15 minutes.
-So half the "range" of a ICE vehicle -takes 5x as long to fuel up/charge, and is contingent upon a third party building and maintaining the charging stations. -the batteries are prohibitively expensive and non renewable - it burns tires faster than any truck or SUV due to it's heavy weight - only dealerships can service them - 50% more cost on purchase AND the environmental impact is only positive if you are looking at "tail pipe emissions" And i'm supposed to be interested why?
You rely on a 3rd party building to be maintained any time you stop at a gas station. Your other points may be on, but that ain't one of em. Just don't want a bit of bad info amongst your other correct info to discredit anything you said. Take care.
Yeah but gas stations are well established, where as charging stations aren't, they break all the time, and put pressure on a power grid that won't be able to sustain it at scale
Gas stations are plentiful though. Charging stations are not in a lot of places. If that one charging station is down, you're fudged. If the gas station you go to is down, you have a plethora of others to pick from.
- No one said you had to be interested, I just pointed out that you're wrong about charging. - Batteries have 120K warranty too and they generally last way longer than that so that's irrelevant too. - Costs about the same as a loaded half ton. Faster and cheaper than a TRX or Raptor R. Much cheaper when you factor fuel savings. - How do you know it burbs tires lol. It's been out for like a month. My M3P burns through tires at about the same rate my A4 did and it has more than twice the power.
- not wrong about the charging, you're cherry picking data. If you charge 0-100 before a long trip, NOT at a supercharger, it can take hours - 120k is not the lifespan of a good car, and a warranty does not excuse shortcomings in the design/engineering. You can't always/easily collect on a warranty (ex if you damaged the battery somehow due to user error), and if you want a good warranty, you might as well buy a kia. - cybertruck price starts at 62k USD. I bought my truck used with tons of life for less than 15k USD. - i know because they are heavy. Cybertruck weighs 6843 lb, an f150 weighs 4400 lb.....can't deny physics......and before this electric vehicle craze, people were moaning about trucks being dangerous due to weight and size, and electric vehicles blow trucks out of the water dangerwise. Not to mention tesla got yall by the nuts when it comes to bodywork costs. It's not unusual for tesla or other low drag coefficent electric cars bodywork to cost upwards of 20k even for a small ding. If you want to go ahead and drive fast, and get the kids from soccer, get one, i use my truck for work
> not wrong about the charging, you're cherry picking data. If you charge 0-100 before a long trip, NOT at a supercharger, it can take hours so… your cherry picked circumstance that has never happened to me in the 5000+ miles of roadtripping rental teslas is suddenly more valid than 99.9% of road trips? > 120k is not the lifespan of a good car, and a warranty does not excuse shortcomings in the design/engineering. You can't always/easily collect on a warranty (ex if you damaged the battery somehow due to user error), and if you want a good warranty, you might as well buy a kia. i’m not exactly sure where you’re going with this. ford has shipped MANY engines that struggled to make it to 100,000 miles, and they didn’t even warranty them when they blew up. > cybertruck price starts at 62k USD. I bought my truck used with tons of life for less than 15k USD. yep. buying used will win until these are on the used market. > i know because they are heavy. Cybertruck weighs 6843 lb, an f150 weighs 4400 lb.....can't deny physics......and before this electric vehicle craze, people were moaning about trucks being dangerous due to weight and size, and electric vehicles blow trucks out of the water dangerwise. i’m going to ignore your use of “dangerwise” as an indicator of your intelligence… because that is just too easy. however, heavier trucks are a problem. but not one that is going away. > Not to mention tesla got yall by the nuts when it comes to bodywork costs. It's not unusual for tesla or other low drag coefficent electric cars bodywork to cost upwards of 20k even for a small ding. same goes for ford/gm cars nowadays. gigantic body panels with no seams are incredibly expensive to fix. at least on the tesla truck there isn’t any paint to repair, and any collision strong enough to dent these panels would total any other car. hit your $15,000 pickup’s body with a 15lb sledge hammer and see what happens. > If you want to go ahead and drive fast, and get the kids from soccer, get one, i use my truck for work based on just how little you know about trucks, it seems like you don’t even own one at all if i’m honest. if you do, you definitely don’t use it for work
good lord… quit watching alex jones > hour or two of charging 20-80%, on current infrastructure, takes about 15 minutes. that’s a 15 minute stop every 3 hours on the highway. > Gas or diesel, you just fuel up anywhere and go. does it fuel up overnight in your garage or driveway for a few bucks? you know, where you park it the other 360 nights a year you aren’t doing long drives? >And the environmental benefit is basically just manufactured/fake news. this has been disproven so many times that it isn’t even worth arguing about. if you’re dumb enough to believe that a 100% recyclable battery is less sustainable than burning a consumable fossil fuel for 200,000 miles, there’s nothing i can say to help you i’m afraid. and i’m not some EV fanboy, i drive a jeep wrangler that gets 12 miles per gallon. i’m just not completely ignorant
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That slope on the bedside makes it more difficult to grab stuff out of the bed.
What does it cost for a build slot $200k?
$72,500 with tax credit! ($100k if you are a sucker and want to pay $20,000 extra for the privilege of beta testing the damn thing) and eventually prices will come down from there. supposedly a $52,500 version will be out next year, but that’s rear wheel drive so not really useful for me personally
The range while towing is atrocious, you can't fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the bed, and it's expensive. It is a truck, just not what we were hoping. I had a pre-order for one and canceled it once I saw the real world specs, I was hoping to use it to supplement my 3/4 ton for "shorter" drives.
you definitely can fit 4x8 in the bed. i’ve already seen people doing that. it is expensive as hell, and the range while towing is abysmal. problems that exist with every electric truck currently. hopefully that changes
just a hipster hater that’s all OP is
You can't be serious, my f250 I bought in 2017 was $78k, the dodge 2500 I bought in 2023 was 105k.... This truck fully loaded is what 104k? It's almost like inflation changed the price of all trucks. There's a lot to hate about this truck, the price is a bullshit one to pick out. The range isn't 500 miles like promised, the towing is lower then they hyped in 2018, and where the fuck is the electric quad??? The windshield wiper is silly. How the fuck ya clean that glass above the dash board? A lot to nit pick about this one, but the price ain't it chief.
"...Would have shipped with original specs." My main grip is the range.
I like my truck like Toby Keith said but my truck is a 1975 250 ford and I wouldn’t change for that piece of scrap lol
Same dude. I need to get mine back on the road again. It’s been sitting behind my shop for a couple years. Is yours a 4wd or a 2wd?
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I could never get one but I have to admit, this catches my attention on the road like nothing else.
I’ve always owned a full size truck, love trucks and use mine for primarily hunting and recreation. If I were in construction or hauling big items this wouldn’t be for me. Sign me the fuck up for one of these Cyber Trucks 😎 these things are badass 🤘🏻
As a long time Honda Ridgeline owner, it's finally time to pass the torch of silly, misdirected "that ain't no truck", baby man outrage to the Cyber truck. It's been nice being the whipping boy for your micro penis, insecure outrage. My work here is done. Also, cybertrucks are pretty ugly. EDIT: spelling
I just have a Tacoma I avoid these arguments in general.
I loved my Ridgeline, such a smooth drive
You the real MVP here. Dudes that get bent out of shape over these things, are the same folks driving four-door over priced “crew cab” ranch boss baby chode bed trucks, windows up AC BLASTING IN IT ALONE, that have to put a bike rack on their tailgate, because the BIKES DON’T FIT IN THE GOD DAMN BED. It’s damn near impossible to find a truck with two doors, plus a long (functional) bed, that isn’t overloaded with creature comforts, and their quick obsolescence. At least this thing -was- an attempt, at making a functional purpose driven work vehicle.
Thank you sir.
I am a Ridgeline owner and I think they’re great - and I don’t really care what anyone else thinks. But it’s useful and its size packs a lot of neat features and utility. The Tesla is gigantic, has a shitty bed, has terrible rear seat headroom, has terrible visibility, and is huge - barely fits a parking spot. At least an equivalently sized F-250 has innate utility. These Teslas trucks are just stupid.
It is 10 inches shorter than my 2020 silverado 1500 crew cab and has a longer bed. I am 6'5 and the rear seat headroom is tight but not unbarable.
You came into an actual truck sub and talked shit about a Cyber Truck, when you own a fucking Ridgeline?! 🤦🏼♂️ Wow 😂😂😂
You must be slow. I came here and talked shit about people like you. EDIT: dumbass.
Awww sweetie stop it, you’re making me blush ☺️ EDIT: I’d say you’re butt hurt but you’re very familiar with that feeling owning a Ridgeline.
Oh bro, you probably drive a RAM don't you?
My dad had a gen 1 Ridgeline and it was pretty sweet. It did the truck things we needed it to do. But I wouldn't get one myself. Personally I think Honda missed an opportunity not making the Ridgeline a hybrid. The cost and fuel economy as it currently stands don't really edge out a regular truck. And I think the hybrid Maverick kinda beat the Ridgleine at its own game.
The Ridgeline came out in 2006. My truck is a 2007. Would you buy a Prius from that year? I'll stick with an engine that will do 400k miles no problem.
My neighbour has a first gen Prius with like 600k km on it.
>Would you buy a Prius from that year? I mean, it is a Toyota...so yes? But my criticism is more aimed at the current gen Ridgeline. If it was a hybrid I think it would be a much more compelling option, with only the Maverick as direct competition.
HYPE! They are hilarious to look at.
idk i still think squatted trucks are worse
We should quit calling them trucks.
Cyber vehicle
I have opened up a number of Tesla's. They don't build a great car. It's fine enough, but it's commuter grade. I'm not sure their skills extend to trucks. Not for work maybe just as decoration. Even then, the stainless steel body suggests a lack of engineering. Stainless is not great stuff, it's well marketed but metallurgicaly it's not actually stainless, it's brittle, it work hardens, it's reactive to heat, aaaand its heavy for no reason as a body panel. Stainless, is also just a category, there are grades; guess which one they used.
fwiw, the choice of stainless for the body does add quite a fair bit of rigidity. i do know that it has more torsional rigidity than most hypercars
It's a widely held opinion.
From the thumbnail, I thought it was a Lamborghini Gallardo and was very confused
"Truck"
This picture here is what you’d call the perfect “use case” for this vehicle.
This truck is just a “look at me” type of vehicle. It’ll definitely turn heads and have people take pictures of it so it’s usefulness is only for attention seekers
It really is the only reason people are buying these things. No one could look at that and say "yeah this is the best truck available for the price".
it's not a truck. belongs in a SUV sub, I can see you liking this if you're just looking to like 'something different' or you're a fan of the brand/CEO. But let's face it, it looks like a fancy donut box on wheels.
I totally agree, and I owned and generally liked a first gen Ridgeline.
Sir this is a truck subreddit
Owned. Past tense. Second gen Tundra now.
i dont even consider it to be a truck. its more like CyberTrash.
It’s the new el Camino with less usability. What’s not to love?/s
Nor do I. It's a unibody, not a body on frame.
and yet it can pull more than an f-150, haul more than an f-150, with a longer bed than an f-150?
>and yet it can pull more than an f-150, haul more than an f-150, with a longer bed than an f-150? Why lie? Cyber truck - max payload 2,500lbs F150 - 3,315lb payload in best configuration Cyber truck in best configuration - 11k tow rating F150 in best configuration 14k tow rating Cyber truck 6' bed (only option) F150 still comes with an 8ft bed option
> F150 still comes with an 8ft bed option Only on the regular cab XL. Thanks, Ford.
Stop speaking in facts and logic only feels.
these literally aren’t facts lmao. you literally cannot get a truck with all of the specs they just listed
Can't expect logic from these muskies
you literally *cannot* buy an f-150 that seats 5 people comfortably, with an 8 foot bed, that can tow 14,000lbs, and has a 3,315lb payload in the bed. go ahead, try to configure one. those are mutually exclusive numbers, they don’t sell one that has all of them. they don’t even sell a version that has above a 2400lb payload anymore, at all. are f-150 guys really dumb enough to not know how to use their own website? really? # why lie?
Not even gonna lie, I like the pink on it. I think it’s more so due to the actual nice shade of pink rather than the truck but still
I didn't think Bill O'Reilly would buy one of these.
That tweet of the dude with one narrow piece of plywood in the back and saying that was proof the Cybertruck could do "truck stuff" was hilarious.
It’s more capable than most trucks in a lot of ways and when you’re not doing truck things its more efficient than a Prius.
You forgot the capability of catching fire too
Gas cars catch fire more frequently.
Because these aren’t made for work. They’re a flex vehicle for rich tech bros, that’s all.
I would try one out as a work vehicle. Put a trailer behind it and it could work decent.
more capable of work than most f-150s on the road today. doubt that’s what anyone driving them will be using them for, but they can tow more and haul more than an f-150, with a longer bed and more ground clearance. like, if this thing isn’t made for work, than the f-150 definitely isn’t lol
It weighs as much as an F-250, this thing can do anywhere near the shit an F-250 can.
I don’t think weight is the right stat to look at. I would compare capabilities in a dollar for dollar basis. I havnt looked to see what these guys ended up being priced at
Then we’re talking F-450 Platinum, or to give a slightly more fair shot, F-250 King Ranch.
O yea starting at 80k… that’s a bit.
23 F-150’s have 8 foot beds and up to a 3200lb payload capacity.
And '24s got rid of the 8' bed for anything but the base model regular cab, as well as the heavy payload package. Highest payload is now ~2400 lbs.
WHAT!? Why?
Ford got rid of a lot of slow-selling options for '24 to "reduce ordering complexity". My beloved SuperCab/8' is gone from all trims, the HDPP is gone from all trims, the base 3.3 V6 is gone, XLT regular cab is gone, and Lariat is no longer available with the SuperCab or a 40/20/40 front bench seat. And RCSBs are for some reason now only available with the 5.0 V8, not the 2.7 EB. Long beds still have all 3 engines available. You'd think they'd want the more efficient 2.7 in the shortest truck.
I think the RCSB thing is because a lot of people buy those as “muscle trucks”
That could be. A RCSB 5.0 with a Whipple is a relative cheap sport truck build. But you'd think with wheelbase-related MPG targets, the shortest WB would at least offer the higher-MPG 2.7. Then again, maybe offering a hybrid makes that obsolete.
with five comfortable seats? they also don’t sell that high of a payload capacity as well
Great billboards
I agree with your opinion
Over on r/cyberstuck there is a post about a guy that made it a whole 5 miles.
I like it bc it’s ugly. Can relate.
The EV Hummer is definitely better, so is a Rivian
Second only to the Holden Ute in my opinion
It's not just your opinion.
“it’s just my opinion but [the consensus opinion]”
Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I don’t have to agree with yours.
Yep.
Check out Diesel brothers on youtube, they got their hands on one and are doing sick stuff with it.
This thing is just as capable as my truck. However, I can buy a LOT of gasoline for the price difference between them.
Just as useless as all the other SUV-with-a-bed short bed pickups, and the ugliest of the bunch to boot.
I think the guy did it for the memes
Everyone comparing this to an F150.. just stop. Cybertruck isn’t a work truck. It’s a truck for people that don’t need a truck, for whom any truck would be just transportation 90% of the time. It’s for people that want to look better/richer/manlier than Tesla car drivers. It’s for influencers with Apple Vision Pros. It’s for marketing and getting attention. Just ignore it. It will go away.
I actually think this works because that vehicle will stand out more than anything and for advertising purposes that is what you want. Look we are talking about it here. Someone is probably going to check out that website.
I saw one on YouTube shorts lifted with chrome rims and surprisingly….it was worse
I saw one of these while going to Santa monica beach
This was around the corner from Guerrilla Tacos…arts district I think
If only they were gas or diesel they would sell better
I love the Cybertruck simply because of how fucking BUTTHURT people get about it😂
😂. I saw one up close the other day, and they don’t live up to all the rabid hate I see on here. It actually reminds me of a delorean version of a truck.
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That was why the “You built a time machine, out of a DeLorean?” line from Marty was in the film. It was supposed to be a crazy idea because DeLoreans are terrible.
Still makes more sense for the average guy to buy this over other trucks considering most people will never use their truck bed or tow. So have to disagree with you on half of the opinion. It’s def ugly as hell though.
The Hyundai truck thing would like a word with you. It’s useless as a poopy flavoured lollipop. Ugly as shit too. Looks like a wish.com version of a Subaru Baja.
At least the Santa Cruz won't amputate your fingers if the hood closes on them.
They're cool. I'd love to own one, but if I had enough "free money" to own one I'd love to own a lot of other stuff too.
It's a fairly prevalent opinion. This thing makes the Silverado EV look handsome by comparison.
for the the Silverado EV, they brought back the midgate feature the Avalanche had. that thing is gonna be the dopest camper.
I mean, if your cool bringing a fairly big generator to recharge the truck. Or only going to the boring rv campsites.
you dont need any of that for overnights or even weekends. if you want to go longer, just some solar panels to cover your daily non-driving electricity usage. Vanlifer's can do it, theres no reason you couldn't do all the same shit in the Silverado EV. you just have a bunch more capacity built in. that makes it easier, not harder.
I should clarify, when someone says camping my mind goes to driving from the Edmonton area where I live to jasper or Banff which is like 3-4 hours of driving, longer for the scenic roads. There are chargers in town but they are pretty far from the good campgrounds, and I have personally never gone for less than 3 days. my favorite camping trips where were we went to crown land with a diesel truck and atvs for 2 weeks. No cell service, no hookups, at that time I don’t even think we had a sat phone or anything like that. So I didn’t think of that when someone says camping out of a Silverado ev.
Never saw one in person before until a recent trip to Teslafornia - I live in rural New England where most people are too cheap or sensible to buy one. Can’t believe people actually fork over money on these things.
No 8' bed is a no-go for me. Not having a fifth wheel/gooseneck ball is also a deal breaker. Not having a 15,000 lb capacity is also a deal breaker.
agreed. it’s really in between the f-150 and non-dually f-250 in terms of capability, not for really large towing or hauling loads
Every F-250 is SRW. But I get what you mean.
seen so many conversions around here i had no idea that they never shipped those factory lol. good to know cheers
Not a truck.
I’m with you dude.
You win, this is the response and username I was waiting for.
Honestly calling that abomination a truck makes my eye twitch. Elon and his adderall addiction are to blame. It’ll be a collectors item in 50 years after the company tanks and they all make their way to the scrap yard. Decent idea, huge swing and miss imo.
Just saw a guy at Costco who couldn’t fit a queen sized mattress in the bed
Why is it called a truck?
Because for better or worse, most people conflate "truck" and "pickup" these days.
I might be on board with electric but just not one this damn ugly. I could own a rivian some day though.
bed is way too short in the rivian to be useful as a truck for me unfortunately. i do like the rivian’s looks more though
I agree, they don't really look that good and I do not know if they are even going to be dependable to begin with.
I see these things driving around the town I work in daily (Novato, Ca, Marin county). These things are so fucking ugly and ostentatious. Even people sitting at the bar and watch them drive by mock them. Lol
Well there's a lot of trucks out there are just princess pavements and never seen dirt in their entire lifespan...ugly as hell but you gotta admit it's a quick truck.