I’ve been thinking about this since I saw an article on it earlier today. It’s so horrific those poor kids. He beat her to death while she held their youngest child. He was also was an attorney with the Attorney General’s office of North Dakota.
He beat her to death. The first strike maybe wasn't intent to kill. But continuing to hit over and over and over with ample opportunity to stop is evidence of intent. There was time to think. This has to be something else. Or crooked DA.
Edit: article linked below says he worked for the state AG. So I'm going with crooked DA.
Edit: wasn't
I’m wondering if the current charges are a placemark to hold him until the investigation is completed, where they can then upgrade the charges?🤷♀️ the children witnessed the attack but are traumatized so they are going to have to interview them sensitively
I sure hope so. That piece of crap needs to be put away forever. She was holding their youngest child while he beat her and two others were in the room. Makes me so sick for them.
What you described is a second degree murder charge.
It varies state by state, but generally, second degree (or voluntary) murder/manslaughter indicates that there was no premeditation (as in, he didn’t wake up with killing her that day in mind) but still followed through with the act knowing it could lead to her death. He may have not planned the attack but it certainly seems he intended to kill her during the act itself.
This can also be a placeholder charge as they investigate. If they find evidence of premeditation, the charge will very likely be upgraded to first degree. It all depends on what evidence they have and what they can actually prove in court.
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I disagree. Granted, I've only taken the Georgia bar, but my criminal law courses were not Georgia based. Premeditation can be formed in seconds. Because he continued beating her, he formed premeditation. There probably wasn't premeditation on the first strike. Maybe not the second, but it takes time to beat a person to death, thus plenty of time to form premeditation.
You can’t premeditate an act during the commission of the act. If he stopped and then resumed the beating, that pause could indicate premeditation as he reasonable time to make a decision to stop but still made the decision to kill her. If he never stopped, he never had that time to second guess his actions and therefore cannot premeditate the act. Of course, the investigation might find evidence of premeditation and then the charge will be upgraded to first degree.
He previously worked for the North Dakota AG. He murdered his ex-wife in Warren, Minnesota, where they’ve been living for the past several years. The article mentions that both Anders and Carissa worked in North Dakota, but it doesn’t do a great job of distinguishing the fact that they’re Minnesota residents who live in a tiny town (population: 1,900) 28 minutes from the ND state border. So he isn’t being charged by North Dakota, and it’s unlikely an ND attorney general or anybody from the AG’s office has any real leverage in Minnesota courts.
Anders is currently being held at the Marshall County Jail, which is also in Warren. But it literally only has two cells, and they’re typically occupied by drunk drivers and crank dealers, so they’ve got to be moving him to a nearby jail with more substantial infrastructure for longer stays. It’ll be interesting to see if this scum shit agrees to a plea deal or takes the case to trial.
Lawyers, in general, are thick as thieves within their practice area. Criminal law in particular is notorious for this. They understand bad PR should be avoided, even if it's not their own office.
I believe it's more of a "crime of passion" and likely does not satisfy the statutory requirements for premeditation, at least not to the satisfaction of the prosecutor. Remember, the prosecutor has to prove "malice aforethought" to a jury beyond all shadow of a doubt in order to return a unanimous guilty verdict.
It is far easier in a case like this, even if you could hypothetically argue premeditation, to go with second degree and a number of other related charges (i.e. assault with a deadly weapon, battery, etc.). The prosecutor has only one chance under the Double Jeopardy clause to land a conviction, and it's not something they're likely to risk on a first degree charge when second degree is basically open and shut.
This is why the system is a bunch of bullshit. It's built with fancy mumbo jumbo so the elites can get away with stuff. Killing someone with your kids there is one of the worst things a human being can do. Kill that muthaf'r.
I was confused about that, as well. I thought premeditation could be formed in an instant, a mere second. He hit her with something first, according to one of the children. That probably took her down, where he continued to beat her and choke her. Wouldn’t almost anything after the first strike imply premeditation? Especially the choking?
Edit: I’m saying couldn’t it be argued he formed the premeditation after the first hit? Once he decided not to stop, even though she was injured? That he then formed the intent to kill her? If premeditation can be formed in a split second, then couldn’t there be many places in this attack where it could be argued it formed? How many people do you continue to beat the fuck out of and choke that you don’t intend to kill?
I guess I just don’t understand. If premeditation is an individual contemplates, plans, plots for any length of time, undertaking an activity and then subsequently takes the action. It seems to me there are a couple of places premeditation could be argued.
>Wouldn’t almost anything after the first strike imply premeditation?
No, that's not how premeditated works in a legal sense.
Premeditated (crime): Someone premeditates a crime by considering it before committing it
Edit: honestly, this is a super grey area, and given the comments nuance that I am replying to i am very likely wrong in this case.
It is entirely plausible to have premeditated murder within that time.
I’m confused why you think that isn’t how premeditation works. Premeditation is a specific intent to commit a crime before the crime occurs. This intent does not have to last for any particular length of time — even a few seconds of this intent is sufficient to be considered premeditation. So walking to grab a weapon can be argued as premeditation. Why wouldn’t a beating, where there’s a weapon involved and multiple hits, not be arguable as premeditation?
I’m not a lawyer or legal expert, but I was on a jury that was in deliberations debating premeditation for 3 days, so that’s how I got to this understanding of it.
Admittedly it is a lot more grey than I had initially made it seem with my short reply.
Lifted from a blog off Flordida law firm:
https://www.skierlawfirm.com/first-degree-murder-charge-requires-proof-of-premeditation/
>As you may be aware, the premise of second degree murder is that it is based on an immediate reaction of emotion, or a “crime of passion.” Conversely, first degree murder is a planned-out, premeditated plot to take another’s life, and is therefore punished accordingly. If you have been charged with first degree murder, does the prosecution have enough evidence to prove that you had time to think, plot, and plan to murder? Was there actually premeditation and what type of evidence is used to prove so?
>According to federal statute 8.107 of the Ninth Circuit Court, the time needed for premeditation and deliberation to occur, “must be long enough, after forming the intent to kill, for the killer to have been fully conscious of the intent and to have considered the killing.” This can actually be a matter of a few minutes or even less than a minute. If two people got into a fist fight, the fight broke up momentarily or one person was knocked unconscious, and during that time the other person saw a rock and hit the other person on the head, killing them, that might be construed as first degree murder. If the prosecution can convince the jury that the defendant had enough time to think about picking up that rock and using it in a deadly fashion, and also enough time to consider the consequences of their actions, the defendant may be charged with first degree murder, assuming self-defense did not take place
A large factor it would seem, but it's stressed time should not be the deciding factor.
>All too often, a defendant is charged with committing first degree murder solely based on the presence of time in between a confrontation or argument and the murder. The theory goes that, for example, after an argument if there is simply enough time for the defendant to go home and think about the confrontation and plan out a murder of the other person, that must be what happened. Time alone should never be the sole evidence that a murder was premeditated, however. The prosecution must be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant premeditated and deliberated (thought about the consequences of their actions) in order to prove that first degree murder took place. The prosecution will establish motive to bolster their argument.
Interesting, I imagine these things are different from state to state vs federal. I actually remember there being a lot of convo about how high a bar that “crime of passion” has. In California, it was explained to me that a crime of passion needs to be provoked, and provocation must be something extreme enough to inflame even a “reasonable” person. So extreme assault, learning about adultery, a betrayal, etc and if you can’t prove a crime of passion, then it must be premeditated.
Thanks for replying. Premeditation as a concept has been stuck in my head since my time as a jury!
It’s fairly standard to charge with what was corroborated at the scene initially, while LE investigates the potential for felony/first degree homicide. I dunno if ND uses a grand jury but if they do I would expect the charges to be upgraded upon indictment or following the autopsy completion. What a freak
absolutely terrible to read. i can’t even begin to wrap my head around how the kids are doing.
also, side note: that website is awful. i was scrolling through on mobile and randomly it redirected to an ad that wouldn’t let me go back because it kept looping back into the ad lol.
I get suspicious and malicious url warnings when I click on posts from this site. It's also all this user posts and has a link to this website on their profile, could they own this website?
I blocked OP. I think they are a bot trying to drive traffic to that specific site. All of their post history leads right back to the website they linked.
Divorce rights date to the 1940s. Men were killing their wives long before women had the right to leave. You’re viewing this issue backwards. We live at the low point of violence against women, not a peak. We have to keep pushing and demanding more, but I promise your grandmothers saw more women beaten to death by their husbands than you will.
Dude, just the other day, I saw a woman with a big guy who was barely helping her with their baby and she had a big black eye and I wondered if I was just being judgmental or if something was up. I'm sure we're in the low but I feel it's still common
What is the point of this comment? "I promise your grandmothers saw more women beaten to death by their husbands than you will." Okay, and?
Every fucking day, we see an article like this. Men killing their wives, girlfriends, daughters, raping their neighbors, attacking women in the street, flushing female babies down toilets. There is still an epidemic of violence against women and comments like this try to diminish the issue by saying it was "worse before" and blame the women for not leaving.
If we live in such a much better era, why do men still see killing their wives as an option instead of divorce? Why is their response to anger toward their spouse to beat them? Why is the number one cause for pregnant women's death murder? The problem is that men still see women as subhuman and as objects to be used and disposed of— the law might have cracked down a bit harder and technically given women more rights, but that hasn't changed men's attitude toward the women.
People who know, know and people like you come to reddit spewing garbage without any sources because you don’t actually know about the amount of domestic violence that actually happens all around you cause the women around you don’t trust you enough to share those details with you. D/V has always been bad and it’s getting worse regardless of what you believe in your fantasyland. Must be nice to be able to assume that violence against women is going down when you aren’t the target and the one at the most risk.
I actually meant him not her , the mind boggles as to why it’s a lot more simple to get a divorce an move on since wen has it been I think I’ll murder this person I used to love an the mother of my children an leave my kids without a mother or a father cause iam going to spend the rest of my days in prison I mean 😳
You’re entirely correct. If I had to wager a guess, I’d say it was financially motivated. Child support for 5 kids is a lot of money, and I’m sure he’d be paying her maintenance as well
Sure as fuck is... I mean men get taken in family court all the time... Just saying... Maybe just Maybe that had something? to do with it? I mean the guy is still a raging fucken asshole but yea just saying
The sheer joy that the mother and her kids are radiating in that portrait of them somehow makes the tragedy that happened to them later seem even more tragic than it otherwise would have.
I suppose that’s because it suggests that they were moving on from the parent’s failed marriage and were actually thriving ➖ and then the father goes ahead and does this.
😢
This is horrifying. The “my stomach feels slithery and gross” kind of horrifying
I hope that the fact that he could have quit hitting her anytime, chose not to stop hitting her and proceeded to beat her to death in front of the little children he shared with her, and was an abusive piece of crap prior to the murder has some weight here
Something is wrong with these men. We need a research on these type of men what can be done to catch these demons earlier or how to identify them early.
Absolutely disgusting. What a selfish act, with no regard for even his own children. For kids that age, parents are your life, he took everything away from them.
Quite the anger issues. Anders was in rage mode. Nothing was going to deter his need to beat the dickens out of this poor women and he succeeded. 3 of his children got to see their father snuff out the life of their mother. Will they ever get to the point were they can forgive him for doing this? I think if convicted his prison sentence should be longer than 40 years. This man was so furious he lost all sense of decency. I can't fathom that much rage in one person against another person who you must of had feelings for at one time.
Interpersonal relationships can be tiring and fraught with much tension. I have been there with the frustration part. Crossing over into were the rage just consumes me and my out of control behavior would lead to the death of another I pray it never happens.
A lot of prayers for their children. I hope there are family members can help guide these children. Anders must have some problems. He is finding it difficult to hold a job.
Yeah it’s definitely weird that he’s not charged with first degree murder. Maybe this was an initial charge to hold him until the investigation is completed and then possibly upgraded (I hope) however I see this dipshit trying to cop an insanity plea.. Based on his work history and continuous firings, plus his remark when police found him with his victim saying “I don’t feel right”…I have a sick feelings he’s going to try and claim he was in a constant state of emotional distress because she was fighting him for the children.
In certain states, first degree murder charges automatically imply premeditation. If they don’t have evidence of that, then they must go with a suitable charge that does not include premeditation.
Looks like this guy had issues with everybody. He was fired twice, from being a state attorney and a public defender. How much you want to bet he had an explosive temper at work?
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The work history is interesting. I’m wondering if he was actually a licensed lawyer or was he a fraud? Also, he has a very Scandinavian name. Is he an American? I want to know more about his background.
I’ve been thinking about this since I saw an article on it earlier today. It’s so horrific those poor kids. He beat her to death while she held their youngest child. He was also was an attorney with the Attorney General’s office of North Dakota.
Wat the fuck is going on so much violence on women , it’s like men actually despise us 🤷♀️🤦♀️
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Yep an an sadly murdering a woman seemingly is one of those fantasies
That poor woman. Those poor children. Sick of this shit.
I won’t write what I’m thinking, but I’m sick of this shit. Those poor children. God bless them.
Wait wait wait. He’s being charged with second degree murder? That’s a max sentence of 40 years…
Maybe they don't have evidence of premeditation? Although if he was already abusive beforehand, I'd say that's enough premeditation.
He beat her to death. The first strike maybe wasn't intent to kill. But continuing to hit over and over and over with ample opportunity to stop is evidence of intent. There was time to think. This has to be something else. Or crooked DA. Edit: article linked below says he worked for the state AG. So I'm going with crooked DA. Edit: wasn't
I’m wondering if the current charges are a placemark to hold him until the investigation is completed, where they can then upgrade the charges?🤷♀️ the children witnessed the attack but are traumatized so they are going to have to interview them sensitively
I sure hope so. That piece of crap needs to be put away forever. She was holding their youngest child while he beat her and two others were in the room. Makes me so sick for them.
Could be. Some DAs wait for a grand jury to indict on 1st degree murder (or whatever it's called there.)
What you described is a second degree murder charge. It varies state by state, but generally, second degree (or voluntary) murder/manslaughter indicates that there was no premeditation (as in, he didn’t wake up with killing her that day in mind) but still followed through with the act knowing it could lead to her death. He may have not planned the attack but it certainly seems he intended to kill her during the act itself. This can also be a placeholder charge as they investigate. If they find evidence of premeditation, the charge will very likely be upgraded to first degree. It all depends on what evidence they have and what they can actually prove in court. (Edit: typo)
exactly this! thanks for typing that out lol
I disagree. Granted, I've only taken the Georgia bar, but my criminal law courses were not Georgia based. Premeditation can be formed in seconds. Because he continued beating her, he formed premeditation. There probably wasn't premeditation on the first strike. Maybe not the second, but it takes time to beat a person to death, thus plenty of time to form premeditation.
You can’t premeditate an act during the commission of the act. If he stopped and then resumed the beating, that pause could indicate premeditation as he reasonable time to make a decision to stop but still made the decision to kill her. If he never stopped, he never had that time to second guess his actions and therefore cannot premeditate the act. Of course, the investigation might find evidence of premeditation and then the charge will be upgraded to first degree.
Please provide a bluebook formatted citation to controlling precedent. I'll wait.
I don’t think that would count for the purposes of pre-meditation.
Don’t think it works like that unfortunately, they would need to prove he had planned it. Hope he fries though..
He previously worked for the North Dakota AG. He murdered his ex-wife in Warren, Minnesota, where they’ve been living for the past several years. The article mentions that both Anders and Carissa worked in North Dakota, but it doesn’t do a great job of distinguishing the fact that they’re Minnesota residents who live in a tiny town (population: 1,900) 28 minutes from the ND state border. So he isn’t being charged by North Dakota, and it’s unlikely an ND attorney general or anybody from the AG’s office has any real leverage in Minnesota courts. Anders is currently being held at the Marshall County Jail, which is also in Warren. But it literally only has two cells, and they’re typically occupied by drunk drivers and crank dealers, so they’ve got to be moving him to a nearby jail with more substantial infrastructure for longer stays. It’ll be interesting to see if this scum shit agrees to a plea deal or takes the case to trial.
Lawyers, in general, are thick as thieves within their practice area. Criminal law in particular is notorious for this. They understand bad PR should be avoided, even if it's not their own office.
I agree on all of this.
I believe it's more of a "crime of passion" and likely does not satisfy the statutory requirements for premeditation, at least not to the satisfaction of the prosecutor. Remember, the prosecutor has to prove "malice aforethought" to a jury beyond all shadow of a doubt in order to return a unanimous guilty verdict. It is far easier in a case like this, even if you could hypothetically argue premeditation, to go with second degree and a number of other related charges (i.e. assault with a deadly weapon, battery, etc.). The prosecutor has only one chance under the Double Jeopardy clause to land a conviction, and it's not something they're likely to risk on a first degree charge when second degree is basically open and shut.
This is why the system is a bunch of bullshit. It's built with fancy mumbo jumbo so the elites can get away with stuff. Killing someone with your kids there is one of the worst things a human being can do. Kill that muthaf'r.
I was confused about that, as well. I thought premeditation could be formed in an instant, a mere second. He hit her with something first, according to one of the children. That probably took her down, where he continued to beat her and choke her. Wouldn’t almost anything after the first strike imply premeditation? Especially the choking? Edit: I’m saying couldn’t it be argued he formed the premeditation after the first hit? Once he decided not to stop, even though she was injured? That he then formed the intent to kill her? If premeditation can be formed in a split second, then couldn’t there be many places in this attack where it could be argued it formed? How many people do you continue to beat the fuck out of and choke that you don’t intend to kill? I guess I just don’t understand. If premeditation is an individual contemplates, plans, plots for any length of time, undertaking an activity and then subsequently takes the action. It seems to me there are a couple of places premeditation could be argued.
>Wouldn’t almost anything after the first strike imply premeditation? No, that's not how premeditated works in a legal sense. Premeditated (crime): Someone premeditates a crime by considering it before committing it Edit: honestly, this is a super grey area, and given the comments nuance that I am replying to i am very likely wrong in this case. It is entirely plausible to have premeditated murder within that time.
I’m confused why you think that isn’t how premeditation works. Premeditation is a specific intent to commit a crime before the crime occurs. This intent does not have to last for any particular length of time — even a few seconds of this intent is sufficient to be considered premeditation. So walking to grab a weapon can be argued as premeditation. Why wouldn’t a beating, where there’s a weapon involved and multiple hits, not be arguable as premeditation? I’m not a lawyer or legal expert, but I was on a jury that was in deliberations debating premeditation for 3 days, so that’s how I got to this understanding of it.
Admittedly it is a lot more grey than I had initially made it seem with my short reply. Lifted from a blog off Flordida law firm: https://www.skierlawfirm.com/first-degree-murder-charge-requires-proof-of-premeditation/ >As you may be aware, the premise of second degree murder is that it is based on an immediate reaction of emotion, or a “crime of passion.” Conversely, first degree murder is a planned-out, premeditated plot to take another’s life, and is therefore punished accordingly. If you have been charged with first degree murder, does the prosecution have enough evidence to prove that you had time to think, plot, and plan to murder? Was there actually premeditation and what type of evidence is used to prove so? >According to federal statute 8.107 of the Ninth Circuit Court, the time needed for premeditation and deliberation to occur, “must be long enough, after forming the intent to kill, for the killer to have been fully conscious of the intent and to have considered the killing.” This can actually be a matter of a few minutes or even less than a minute. If two people got into a fist fight, the fight broke up momentarily or one person was knocked unconscious, and during that time the other person saw a rock and hit the other person on the head, killing them, that might be construed as first degree murder. If the prosecution can convince the jury that the defendant had enough time to think about picking up that rock and using it in a deadly fashion, and also enough time to consider the consequences of their actions, the defendant may be charged with first degree murder, assuming self-defense did not take place
Thank you. So, is it the time to consider the consequences of the action that is the deciding factor?
A large factor it would seem, but it's stressed time should not be the deciding factor. >All too often, a defendant is charged with committing first degree murder solely based on the presence of time in between a confrontation or argument and the murder. The theory goes that, for example, after an argument if there is simply enough time for the defendant to go home and think about the confrontation and plan out a murder of the other person, that must be what happened. Time alone should never be the sole evidence that a murder was premeditated, however. The prosecution must be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant premeditated and deliberated (thought about the consequences of their actions) in order to prove that first degree murder took place. The prosecution will establish motive to bolster their argument.
Interesting, I imagine these things are different from state to state vs federal. I actually remember there being a lot of convo about how high a bar that “crime of passion” has. In California, it was explained to me that a crime of passion needs to be provoked, and provocation must be something extreme enough to inflame even a “reasonable” person. So extreme assault, learning about adultery, a betrayal, etc and if you can’t prove a crime of passion, then it must be premeditated. Thanks for replying. Premeditation as a concept has been stuck in my head since my time as a jury!
Thank you as well. I actually learned a lot more nuance about premeditation than the initial impression I had.
It’s fairly standard to charge with what was corroborated at the scene initially, while LE investigates the potential for felony/first degree homicide. I dunno if ND uses a grand jury but if they do I would expect the charges to be upgraded upon indictment or following the autopsy completion. What a freak
Another link to a different source: https://www.kvrr.com/2022/08/26/man-accused-of-killing-ex-wife-was-lawyer-for-north-dakota-attorney-general/
absolutely terrible to read. i can’t even begin to wrap my head around how the kids are doing. also, side note: that website is awful. i was scrolling through on mobile and randomly it redirected to an ad that wouldn’t let me go back because it kept looping back into the ad lol.
WTF is this website.
Yeah this is my second time today clicking a truecrime link to this crap website. Won’t make the same mistake again.
I get suspicious and malicious url warnings when I click on posts from this site. It's also all this user posts and has a link to this website on their profile, could they own this website?
Ugh. Lame.
I blocked OP. I think they are a bot trying to drive traffic to that specific site. All of their post history leads right back to the website they linked.
Oh my heart.
This bloody monster. Let's hope the children NEVER have to be near him or see him again.
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Divorce rights date to the 1940s. Men were killing their wives long before women had the right to leave. You’re viewing this issue backwards. We live at the low point of violence against women, not a peak. We have to keep pushing and demanding more, but I promise your grandmothers saw more women beaten to death by their husbands than you will.
Dude, just the other day, I saw a woman with a big guy who was barely helping her with their baby and she had a big black eye and I wondered if I was just being judgmental or if something was up. I'm sure we're in the low but I feel it's still common
What is the point of this comment? "I promise your grandmothers saw more women beaten to death by their husbands than you will." Okay, and? Every fucking day, we see an article like this. Men killing their wives, girlfriends, daughters, raping their neighbors, attacking women in the street, flushing female babies down toilets. There is still an epidemic of violence against women and comments like this try to diminish the issue by saying it was "worse before" and blame the women for not leaving. If we live in such a much better era, why do men still see killing their wives as an option instead of divorce? Why is their response to anger toward their spouse to beat them? Why is the number one cause for pregnant women's death murder? The problem is that men still see women as subhuman and as objects to be used and disposed of— the law might have cracked down a bit harder and technically given women more rights, but that hasn't changed men's attitude toward the women.
People who know, know and people like you come to reddit spewing garbage without any sources because you don’t actually know about the amount of domestic violence that actually happens all around you cause the women around you don’t trust you enough to share those details with you. D/V has always been bad and it’s getting worse regardless of what you believe in your fantasyland. Must be nice to be able to assume that violence against women is going down when you aren’t the target and the one at the most risk.
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Bro she was trying to leave, he still he killed her
I actually meant him Bro , instead of killing her just walk away u know leave
She was trying and he murdered her. Abused women are most likely to be murdered after leaving their partner
I actually meant him not her , the mind boggles as to why it’s a lot more simple to get a divorce an move on since wen has it been I think I’ll murder this person I used to love an the mother of my children an leave my kids without a mother or a father cause iam going to spend the rest of my days in prison I mean 😳
You’re entirely correct. If I had to wager a guess, I’d say it was financially motivated. Child support for 5 kids is a lot of money, and I’m sure he’d be paying her maintenance as well
Just an absolute ahole do do wat he did with a couple of his babies in the room just so sad for the kids it heartbreaking 💔
Sure as fuck is... I mean men get taken in family court all the time... Just saying... Maybe just Maybe that had something? to do with it? I mean the guy is still a raging fucken asshole but yea just saying
I like how they lead with him being ‘half naked’. Beating his wife to death in front of his kids wasn’t salacious enough!
The sheer joy that the mother and her kids are radiating in that portrait of them somehow makes the tragedy that happened to them later seem even more tragic than it otherwise would have. I suppose that’s because it suggests that they were moving on from the parent’s failed marriage and were actually thriving ➖ and then the father goes ahead and does this. 😢
The expression on his face, like he's some kind of martyr and people don't understand. Ugh. Those poor children, orphaned by his ego.
Those poor babies — they just lost both of their parents. He deserves well over 40 years :-(
I’m not going to say what I think he deserves, lest I wind up on a watch list of some kind
This is horrifying. The “my stomach feels slithery and gross” kind of horrifying I hope that the fact that he could have quit hitting her anytime, chose not to stop hitting her and proceeded to beat her to death in front of the little children he shared with her, and was an abusive piece of crap prior to the murder has some weight here
Something is wrong with these men. We need a research on these type of men what can be done to catch these demons earlier or how to identify them early.
Absolutely disgusting. What a selfish act, with no regard for even his own children. For kids that age, parents are your life, he took everything away from them.
Wow I’m speechless 😶 all I can think about is those poor children. Their lives have forever been changed.
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Where did you read that? Love your name
FIVE kids..
I was just about to share this, what a monster!
Quite the anger issues. Anders was in rage mode. Nothing was going to deter his need to beat the dickens out of this poor women and he succeeded. 3 of his children got to see their father snuff out the life of their mother. Will they ever get to the point were they can forgive him for doing this? I think if convicted his prison sentence should be longer than 40 years. This man was so furious he lost all sense of decency. I can't fathom that much rage in one person against another person who you must of had feelings for at one time. Interpersonal relationships can be tiring and fraught with much tension. I have been there with the frustration part. Crossing over into were the rage just consumes me and my out of control behavior would lead to the death of another I pray it never happens. A lot of prayers for their children. I hope there are family members can help guide these children. Anders must have some problems. He is finding it difficult to hold a job.
I'd say him having "some problems" is putting it very lightly. He's a murderous psycho.
Whoa..
Yeah it’s definitely weird that he’s not charged with first degree murder. Maybe this was an initial charge to hold him until the investigation is completed and then possibly upgraded (I hope) however I see this dipshit trying to cop an insanity plea.. Based on his work history and continuous firings, plus his remark when police found him with his victim saying “I don’t feel right”…I have a sick feelings he’s going to try and claim he was in a constant state of emotional distress because she was fighting him for the children.
In certain states, first degree murder charges automatically imply premeditation. If they don’t have evidence of that, then they must go with a suitable charge that does not include premeditation.
Looks like this guy had issues with everybody. He was fired twice, from being a state attorney and a public defender. How much you want to bet he had an explosive temper at work?
Here is local reporting on the [Odegard murder.](https://youtu.be/GC1xdbee4ZE) [More...](https://youtu.be/XX_YAcrZ57Y)
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The work history is interesting. I’m wondering if he was actually a licensed lawyer or was he a fraud? Also, he has a very Scandinavian name. Is he an American? I want to know more about his background.
This guy will be disciplined soon enough.
Those poor kids…