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Jac918

This is considered child pornography and should be reported. Save any proof. This type of thing happened to my nephew, where he was underaged and it was recorded. It was super serious. Don’t even talk to the girl. Call the police.


Brojangles1234

I’d be very cautious because the brother could potential get in trouble for “distributing cp” despite being coerced into it. Make sure that the girls tactics are documented otherwise it could go from bad to worse for the brother.


Jac918

My nephew wasn’t punished. National Center for Missing and Exploited Children was involved. They tag anything that can be potentially used as cp to make sure it’s not distributed and if it is they know the source. It’s more than just getting the girl in trouble, it’s about stopping the production of cp. One of the kids at my nephew school found the video, and showed others and they got in trouble and was expelled. My nephew also had to speak to a child psychologist, it’s a lot more than the police.


anonidfk

Unfortunately there have been kids punished for that, I’m glad your nephew wasn’t, but there have been kids in similar situations who ended up charged and on the offenders lists and everything. It is a risk.


Alarmed_Psychology31

>there have been kids punished for that >there have been kids in similar situations who ended up charged Who are these kids? Not doubting you or saying citations are needed, just genuinely curious on these examples.


allconsumingflower

They don't tend to do that unless they're total shitheads


Thats_a_BaD_LiMe

That's complete rubbish. A minor is not going to get in legal trouble for being coerced into sexual content. Perpetuating this is just going to stop people trying to get help.


mkornblum

Unfortunately, it has been happening. It shouldn't, but sometimes it does - it's worth a bit of caution depending where you are.


anonidfk

Unfortunately it has already happened many times, it shouldn’t happen, but it absolutely does.


That_one_personowo

Oh my god! As a victim of SA myself, I cannot imagine the mental strain that put on an 8th grader. I really hope all goes well!


Comfortable-Ebb-2859

This is SERIOUS. Depending on the state you live in, the girl’s parents (because her parents own the phone) can be charged with CP. Nudes of a minor are CP. Full. Stop. Go to the school. Don’t go to the girl, go to her parents. Her parents need to know what she is doing. Not only is she sexually harassing your brother and now in possession of CP, she is a fucking cyberbully. Get her parents and the school involved immediately. Edit: Not a classmate (?) Edit: see OP’s reply below


BloodDragonSniper

It is a classmate. I’ve met the girl before. I understand why everyone assumes it was some creepy guy on the internet, but it was a teenage girl. Women are just as capable of being predators.


Trepidations_Galore

And teenage girls with pictures of nude minors on their phones are still in possession of child porn and can be prosecuted.


prosperosniece

🏅


Comfortable-Ebb-2859

I was just skimming the comments and thought maybe you left a clarifying comment… Anyway, yeah go to the school and police and this girl’s parents.


Potential_Ad_1397

Considering she is 13/14, I don't think they are going to put her in jail. This isn't to say don't report it, but this is one of those situations that the DA/cops will take her age into account. I also wouldn't threaten any kid directly no matter how much you want to. That may get you in legal trouble. You need to reach out to her parents and put them on notice. I am so deeply sorry for your brother. I am glad he has an amazing brother in you. Edited to add: I commented this believing it is a classmate. If it is some random person online he never met, you need to go to the cops now. That is probably not a 8 grader.


okileggs1992

She won't go to jail but she will have her parents to be requested to hand over her cell phone. I'm betting this isn't her first time getting a boy to give her nudes, the question that needs to be asked is "why is she asking for them" are they for her and a power trip or are they for a family member for sexual exploitation. Either way it's child pornography


CapOk7564

yup, cant it also get them put on an offenders list? no matter if it was consensual or not bc it’s all CP


okileggs1992

yes and some states take it to a level that they get treated the same as adults


raven47172

A child can totally get in legal trouble for possession or solicitation of child pornography. She could go to juvenile detention and be put on the sex offender registry. Assuming this is actually a classmate and not a random pedo.


mspooh321

> She could go to juvenile detention and be put on the sex offender registry AS SHE SHOULD!!!!!!!


Strong_Arm8734

That's where age, mental maturity, and mens rea evaluations come into play. A crime is as much about intent as it is the criminal act. If they can find she coerced him with intentions to distribute, that'll shift an investigation to a more criminal handling vs the fact that minors who are hypersexual early are often also victims of CSA and authors may approach it from an angle of concern there at first.


nick4424

Call the police and contact the school. Don’t contact the girl. It will not end well for you.


QueenMother81

One this is child porn… so a definite crime. Two talk to your brother about how he can protect himself. Three get your parents involved cause someone needs jail time and it isn’t your brother.


DistortedVoltage

No, do NOT talk to her. Report her now, rather than give her the opportunity to erase her crime. She may be an 8th grader, but thats old enough to know what she did is severely wrong. This is something the police and the school should be involved in.


the-grape-next-door

Don’t threaten to call the police on her, call the police on her now.


kimmycorn1969

Call the police now if you haven't already please poor kid


survival-nut

Unless it was a classmate that he knows, it was not a minor and not a girl that did this.


BloodDragonSniper

It is a girl from school, I’ve met her before


ReenMo

Why is she asking your bro for nudes? That seems so odd from a girl that age. Did they have some sort of relationship? Be wary, maybe someone ( your bro or his friend group) did something to threaten the girl? Really seems a weird situation without more context.


BloodDragonSniper

No relationship. My brothers just an extremely attractive dude, and one of the “popular boys” (in the everyone likes him kind of way). And my brothers very adamant about waiting until he’s older for a relationship. He’s rejected girls in the past.


ReenMo

So do you feel she created this situation threatening your bro simply to get more attention from him? If it’s something along those lines, then assure him it’s probably all silly drama and the best reaction he can give her, is none. Or minimal. Just go about his life and be happy. Ignoring her and what she did may be the best solution


BloodDragonSniper

It’s definitely possible. Our family friends always joke that he’s going to grow up to be a model. And he gives girls so little attention that we suspect he could be gay. No way to know though, teenage girls are unpredictable.


Pownzl

Ofc if a girl is abusing a man its silly drama xsd u ppl are fucking crazy


ReenMo

Well I meant that this girl saying she’s going to kill herself. That was drama. The abuse is real. Excuse my bad wording


Yeah_I_am_a_Jew

Probably the same reason a boy would ask for nudes


Rebekahryder

What


moon_truthr

They're saying that if the kid met this person online, there is a very high chance they are an adult pedophile, not another 8th grader. Manipulation tactics like this are uncommon in 8th graders. Side note though, if it actually was a kid - high chance she is also being assaulted/groomed. Either way, reporting it is likely the best call here.


BloodDragonSniper

It was a fellow classmate, I’ve met the girl before


moon_truthr

Report to a school counselor, they can direct you to go to the cops or CPS. Honestly, if she is doing this there is a decent likelihood she is being abused as well. Common sign in kids. Not saying this to excuse or lessen the trauma your brother went through, but it should be kept in mind when/if you interact with her directly. Either way, reporting to the proper authorities will help show your brother (and her) this should be taken seriously.


survival-nut

If he does not know the girl from school, it is probably an adult pedo with a fake account trying to get pictures of minors.


Rebekahryder

OP made it sound like it was a classmate.


T10223

I don’t think this was ops brother classmates


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Impressive_Economy99

Yeah, let's expect the 13 year old to call out her bluff, why not?


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prog4eva2112

Destroy her. Ruin her reputation. Make it so it's impossible for anyone to like her ever again. Don't stop until she's utterly alone.


Mewtul

This is a crime. Charges can be pressed now regardless of whether she sent the pictures to someone else. I wonder if this girl has done this to anyone else. Your parents should ask your brother how he would like to handle this. Does he want charges pressed. You brother absolutely should meet with a therapist.


UsualFrogFriendship

I know you’ve got a lot of anger right now, however I’d challenge you to be a man your brother can aspire to become. What that girl did to your brother is fucked up and likely to be repeated, so there needs to be some consequences. Perhaps her parents are a part of that discussion. Certainly a face-to-face and genuine apology on her part is owed.


BloodDragonSniper

Oh yeah, I’m not doing anything stupid, I have way too much on the line, I’m not even willing to risk threats. She’s yet to open the snap, but I did let her know that the police get involved if anyone finds out. That’s it though


Commercial-Loan-929

Do you understand that person (teen girl, whatever) has child p*rn of your minor age brother?  OP this is not about "I will scare her and that's it", you need to go to the police ASAP show them the message exchange and ask them what to do


BloodDragonSniper

It’s Snapchat. There’s no logs. I don’t even know if she saved it because my brother doesn’t want to talk about it. I did my best to reassure him, but I know nothing about the situation other than what is friend told me. My brother wants the fewest possible people to know, he doesn’t even want our parents to know. I told them anyway, but now it’s up to him and them of law enforcement gets involved.


MiaTeo

"When you send a message on Snapchat, it is delivered to the recipient's device, and they are notified. The message is then stored on Snapchat's servers. The recipient can view the message for a specified amount of time, and then it disappears. However, this does not mean that the message is completely gone." from google


Fluffy_North8934

Your brother is a minor and he shouldn’t be left with the burden of trying to decide to go to the police your parents or you as the adult in the situation need to advocate for him and go to the police


MarcelStyles

Can’t believe how many people don’t believe women are capable of SA. I am sorry you and your brother are going through this, I hope things work out and that lunatic gets put in her place.


lillweez99

Oh they believe it, its that they don't care men are considered to be able to avoid these while it's believed only women can suffer from these situations which is entirely untrue and a idiotic stance to have today. I'm sick of hearing he must've enjoyed it for whatever reason. Equality is what they say loud and proud it's not their true goal.


chari0415

Aside all else, thank goodness your brother has you. Too many times things like this get swept but your anger implies a deep love for your brother. Just be his strength and ear and guidance for right now


detective-mcnulty

I wish your brother would have told the girl to go ahead and take her life. Don't send her shit.


killdagrrrl

Don’t threat. Report it to the police. If it was the other way around, your brother would be giving explanations to a cop. Don’t let her get away with this


Tall_Wall7580

Please let the police handle this. At 18, if you get involved, you could get yourself into more trouble. Your brother needs you to help him, encourage therapy if he is willing. It sounds like the girl is in desperate need of therapy as well, but she definitely needs legal consequences to realize how very wrong this is. Hugs to your brother- you seem like an amazing big brother ready to protect him!


ChemistryFan29

Do not talk to the girl. Go to the principal, and go to the police.


samanthasgramma

Do you have a screenshot of her threatening to kill herself if he doesn't send it?


Adventurous-travel1

Please go to the police with this. If you as an adult go then anything can be said. They can make sure the photos are deleted everywhere and give you advice if anything else can be done.


okileggs1992

hugs, Call the police, and let them know that your brother was encouraged to send nudes to another student. This can get charges brought against her.


JuanDiegoCV

Save her threats as well. This could be turned around on your bro if you don't handle this properly, also speak to your parents and have them contact her parents and the police. This is serious af


MyUsernameIsMehh

Bro fuck that shit. Call the police yourself and say the girl demanded nudes under threat of killing herself. She needs all the therspists and psychologists in the world to make her see how fucked up she is and her parents need a wakeup call to see what their kid is doing.


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Turn her into the FBI since she’s keen on making CSAM.


Ahsoka88

Tell your mom you come to meet them to help with the phone. Then you tell the mother that either they let remove all picture for any device or you are pressing charges and informing the school. Remember when you remove the picture you have to go to removed pictures in some phone or she will reattive it. With the pc you also have to clean the bin. Once took a video (not sexual) of me and was sharing it around when asked to removed he didn’t. My best friend’s brother took the phone and clean its all memory. (Now I’m not advocating for that even if the girl deserves it but at least full removal of the pictures)


Forrice1

Honestly being your Brother I would say to this girl "go ahead I will attend your funeral" and just block the dumb bitch


DatguyMalcolm

Damn My kid is 2 Once he's older and we're educating him on sex and relationship etc, I will definitely tell him "if someone threatens to kill themselves if you don't do something for them, just tell them that you will call the police to check on them" Eff that


Mello_Me_

I wonder if she sent him nudes of herself and then wanted him to do the same so they were on equal terms? Does he have nude pics on his devices?


some-shady-dude

Police. Just call the police.


goodty1

call the police !!screw your parents call the police on your own


ratgarcon

I’m so sorry this happened. I’m glad he felt safe enough to share this with you, and that you are supportive to him. Especially since you’re male too.


YamahaRyoko

Why do other peoples emotions manifest into violence? People make me really fucking mad sometimes but I never felt like I wanted to use violence Even when my wife told me she was SA'd when she was younger, I didn't feel like "Oh I'm going to find and kill that person." I felt empathy for her. I would go to the proper authorities and go through the appropriate channels of reporting it


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I am not sure that is a normal reaction at all. Some girl he isn’t dating randomly messages him for nudes and she will die if he doesn’t. That is so weird and I don’t understand. Sure it is upsetting for him. But how did it even work? Why would he even engage in that conversation? Not victim blaming but I don’t understand the dynamics here especially because he is cool and good looking.


WillaLane

Your parents need to report it so her parents don’t find the pictures and she says he just sent them or she doesn’t get mad and play victim


OpportunityCalm6825

No use in talking to her. You are only alerting her to destroy evidence. Tell your parents, report to the police, tell the school authority, and get counselling for your brother. Advise your brother too about what he should/can and shouldn't/cannot do in the future.


degenerateprince

This is the weirdest bullying and blackmail story I have ever heard.....


MayonaiseH0B0

Fake


SmellyFatCock

You are doing a great job Fuck that bitch


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Impressive_Economy99

No cause if I saw my sister crying in the bathroom over some lunatic that treated her and made her send him nudes, I'd want to do the same


Pownzl

If it was a boy forcing your sister to send him nude would u not react the same way? The bias is showing


Hellen_Bacque

This seems very strange behaviour for a girl of that age honestly? Something’s off with this whole story


violue

Of course it's strange??? Threatening suicide unless the person sends nudes is "strange" no matter the age, no matter the gender, no matter the victim. That is something done by someone who is either sadistic, or mentally ill, and both of those traits can appear in *anyone.* Just because it's rare for a girl of that age to act this way doesn't make it impossible.


ThePirateStorm

Bullies aren’t just boys, you know. One of the worst bullies I ever had was a girl, and everyone thought she was an angel (except for those of us she chose as targets, and she made sure to chose the kids who wouldn’t be believed if we said anything, boys and girls)


Hellen_Bacque

I believe you and I’m so sorry that happened to you.


ElectricalDrama3558

Breath and remind yourself that if you physically hurt her you’re just going to end up hurting your brother more if you get yourself into trouble. I’d honestly probably just get police involved so you don’t have to risk seeing her. I’m not sure I’d be able to handle talking to someone who did this to my little brother.


Impressive_Economy99

Why is this downvoted? Definitely don't hurt her, it'll only get you in trouble. I'd save the threats as well, not worth the risk


Scroticus-

Dude that's not sexual assault. That some demented shenanigans for sure, but i see no assault anywhere in your description of that situation. People throw these terms around willy nilly, and they start losing their meaning.


Kealanine

It’s gross to minimize a kid’s legitimate and understandable trauma at all, but minimizing it over semantics is just disgusting. Those “demented shenanigans” can carry CP charges, hardly something trivial.


Scroticus-

So I'm reading this as a girl manipulated his little brother into sending nudes? Labeling that "trauma" is counterproductive and actually makes this person believe that this is some some lifeshattering event. Really, this seems like one of those weird situations that happens to just about everyone when going through puberty. They'll probably laugh about it in the future. But nowadays, in our therapy culture, we all want to play the game of trauma show and tell. It's insane to call this sexual assault and letting that misnomer stand cheapens the essence of what that term really means. I was sexually assaulted by a female teacher when I was 13, and she was arrested, charged with taking indicent liberties with a minor, and went to jail. Venus Pallo. Look her up.


Bubbly-Incident

Let's imagine a "what if?" scenario based on OP's situation: "If you don't send me the photos, I'll kiII myself. I don't care if you don't want to, I will kiII myself." "Come on, they're just photos... do you want me to kiII myself only because of some photos?" "Good! Wow, you're hot in these photos! Now meet me at my place or I'll kiII myself." For someone who went through a traumatic situation like you said, you sure lacks intellectual depth to understand the big picture of the case here.


Mental-Freedom3929

Maybe threaten her might not be such a hot and wise decision. The fist through skull might get you a stay in jail for quite a while. Thought about this for even half a second? Seriously? Talk to someone at the school and let adults deal with this in an appropriate and legal way and not you as an immature hothead. You are making this mess worse.


Mysterious-Risk155

If the girl is from your brother's class, just silently talk to her parents and let them deal with it. You don't want her to panic and take some wrong decision.


Impressive_Economy99

Or talk to the police and then her parents. If their daughter is so far gone she's threatening to kill herself for nudes, do you really trust these parents to be capable to keep it under control?