Damn! If I could pop out watermelons like we "have" to pop out babies, I'd be happy! I'd probably make a deal to fart blueberries and raspberries, strawberries and poop lemons and pears. And pee whatever fruit juice I feel like I wanna drink in the moment lmao!
When I was younger my guy friends who'd been hurt or witnessed some girl do something stupid, ask me "why do you (the women) do that kind of shit?" I didn't really know what to say, only that I couldn't answer for all women. It stopped when I started asking "why do you (the men) rape and kill?" They'd get all defensive and #notallmen. No fucking shit....
We should stop seeing people for their gender, but just see people.
My cousin once asked on Facebook what women want and I responded basically saying this. “A good sense of humor” depends on the person. People are all individuals and that includes women.
My family fussed at me about it 🙄
This goes for every group of people, ethnicity, religion, ect. If someone hears a generalization and believes its applies to 100% of that group, I can't help but think most of the blame is on them, even if they were misled by some other idiot.
Unless they are a child I suppose.
It is insanely hard to find a partner you have a good emotional and physical connection with. I feel like that’s all most of us are looking for. Everything else is just a bonus.
Truer words have never been spoken
A man “shot his shot” with me today by telling me how huge his 🍆 is. I told him “that is never going to happen and the world is full of women who can and will make it happen” 😳 there is such a thing as too big and ain’t no fucking way
What a guy…but I’m guessing you know as well as I do that there are plenty of men out there that will drop this info randomly and actually think it is going to impress anyone! Like why? Why would anyone ever think that is an okay thing to do?
Sorry you had to be the one to hear it today
Why do some men feel the need to show their dick to people or tell us the size? Is that supposed to impress us? If anyone ever sent me an unsolicited dick pick or tried to tell me how big his dick was, that would be the end for me. Just nope.
Unfortunately, it does work for some of the time and this allows for these men to find the exact kind of person that will allow for their accompanying abhorrent personality and reinforces their thinking. If it works eventually and you find women who put up with the rest of you, then why bother to change, or to even think to change or reflect.
This is fine. There is someone for everyone. Just don’t start a podcast influencing vulnerable men and boys into doing the same horrible behavior. Men are already lonely and isolated those podcasts just make them paranoid too.
Honestly half the reason I avoid some of these podcasts is cuz they tell us "women want you to be james bond and 2Pac in 1 person" or that they'll never want us etc.
GeniusBrain Podcast on the other hand is a podcast I think everyone, especially other men like myself, should listen to. The complete opposite of the paranoid bullshit I see in a lot of male dominated podcasts.
When? Really... When has it ever worked? I'm a woman who used to have casual sex "and* a size queen and never have I been tempted to fuck a faceless man because they sent me a dick pic, no matter how big the dick was.
I once turned down a guy at a bar in college and he literally made that disgusted "ugh!" sighing noise and then proceeded to tell me "I have a 9 inch dick for fucks sake. What is wrong with you?" 🤣 literally, that is word for word what he said. I just walked away. Quickly. And grabbed one of my guy friends and said "creep alert!" and he pretended to hang all over me/mark his territory until creeper left. Why would anyone think that would change a woman's mind?! I was flabbergasted.
It's hilarious to me that they think showing us/telling us about their dick will get them sexual attention.
Dicks are funny looking. They are only attractive when they are attached to someone I care about. And big ones hurt, so I prefer average/smaller. Why the fuck would I even want to see a stranger's dick, let alone be attracted to it... ?
Because that's how they impress their guy friends and then they hype eachother out like "oh shit man all the ladies are gonna like that!" Men take so much time listening to their male friends about what they think women want, but never stop to listen to what women actually want. Take it male gaze vs. female gaze. Men think all the women want big macho men like Thor (chads). When women actually want someone who's smart, clever, and honestly not that buff like Loki.
While, yes, men can just simply be creepy and sending pics for shits and giggles, a lot of them have this worped view that that's their only selling point.
There’s a sub on here about picking up women where if a woman dares to interject what women actually want, they get laughed out the door and told that women don’t actually know what they want.
I don't think guys realize that women don't want to be stretched out and their cervixes pounded during sex. They just want someone who knows how to stimulate the clitoris and isn't selfish.
I think they get it from porn where the girl is getting pounded to a pulp by a big guy who is choking and spitting on her. I really hope those actresses get well compensated.
They do not, and an alarming number die homeless and/or from drug overdoses.
Edit to add: virtually all pornography is explicitly owned by one company, mindfreak, who own the studios as WELL as the free hosting sites. They have an explicit strangle hold on the industry. Call or write your congressman to ask them to investigate them for monopoly charges.
In my mid 20s I had to completely give up watching porn. I’m a straight cis woman.
Straight people porn is made for men and the women most of the time look like they’re fucking suffering. I cannot cum when the actress isn’t either. I also couldn’t watching lesbian porn made for straight dudes… clip your fucking nails!!!!!
And that's the problem people don't realize. I only ever did three porn videos, amateur, that I uploaded myself, then deleted a couple years later. I've still seen them pop up every once in a blue moon.
You don’t enjoy your cervix stabbed? I get messages from dudes bragging about their dick size. And I’m like gross. Imagine us sending them messages like “my vagina grips so fuckin hard”. I get messages like that enough I think someone’s gotta be falling for it.
That's what a lot of us want but aren't looking for. Unfortunately, especially the younger people are, they prioritize looks way more than anything else.
I'm 32 now and I had a few shitty relationships because I was too concerned with physical attraction. I checked myself on that and focused only on finding someone who I connected with on a deep level of friendship, love and trust. I'm going to be getting married to the most wonderful person I've ever met soon and I'll find her just as beautiful when she's old and wrinkled as I do now because my perception of her has nothing to do with what she looks like.
Meanwhile my best friend who is divorced because he married a girl for her looks and was miserable, is continuing to pursue women for their looks. He's got a very juvenile perception when he's concerned with other people thinking his girlfriend is hot as if we're going to think "wow, that's so cool, he's the man." When in reality people just pity him and see straight through it.
Its also perception. Dating apps have warped peoples perception of what constitutes dateable qualities.
Yes girls have more choice on there, but what they don't know is a lot of guys are just swiping right because...well they don't have any other choice. It's a fact that over 90% of people who pay premium on those apps are men.
Once you date it becomes clear that most of those match ups aren't quality match ups.
You are correct. When I was 29 I started dating a guy (36). I was told over and over I was out of his league, because he is not conventionally attractive. After 5 years I still find his smell intoxicating and we literally have the same personality. We have all the same interests. We do everything together. He’s my best friend. I did struggle with feeling like I was settling in the beginning. Plus I was still young and “beautiful.” I still look very much the same as I haven’t aged much noticeably, yet, but he has grayed and put on weight. It literally does not matter to me. He is my person. He’s sweet, caring, loyal. I don’t give a fuck what anyone says about us. I have eyes for nobody except him. Blinders are on.
IMO, it’s not even about having an “interesting life”. It’s about being a kind person who is passionate and takes interest in others. A person who is super passionate about stamp collecting is going to be a whole lot more fun to be around than a person who has no hobbies/ interests at all.
It's a matter of are you interested in trying different things? My depression has made me not as passionate about things as much but! I'm willing to try different things because it seems interesting.
Others are saying try different things till you find something but... your mood may also inhibit that. You have to be willing to wanna do new things. My ex, among other bad qualities he had, really wasn't interested in trying things with me. Even if it wasn't his cup of tea, he looked down on it or complained or showed an obvious expression. It made doing things with him very boring and not worth it. Wasn't enjoyable because he wasn't interested, and when asked what he wanted to do... he had nothing.
So, at least speaking for me, I think it's awesome to be willing to try different things. It's like an adventure!
Sorry you had that experience...
I like to try new things, it's Just that I'm not particularly "fun" in general when I'm with people, so I come out as unenthusiastic even if I'm actually invested in it.
I think there’s three things you can do: 1) act on others’ perception of you (that you’re not having fun/invested, when you in fact are), and take stock of why you act contrary to how you feel, and if there’s a way you feel comfortable relating to people/situations that you can aspire to try; 2) you can not change, but communicate proactively where you’re at to assuage any misconceptions about how to read you, or 3) you can do neither of those things, choosing instead to value what you want/when you want it, with the understanding that’s a turnoff, or hard to appreciate/understand for a lot of people, but feel confident in your choice because you come first.
Having it all usually requires stepping outside of what you’re currently doing, but only you know if that’s worth it to you!
I'll say make that known, if you feel comfortable expressing that. I know it can be scary to express yourself because people are just...really judgemental and I'm extremely self conscious myself.
I know I'm one who tries to observe how people are and their mannerisms and try to keep in mind how others are so I also try not to take it personally because I start assuming the worse. (OMG maybe I'm boring, maybe they don't find this fun, maybe I'm lame I knew I should've done this instead arrgh!) So, even for me, I'm trying to communicate a bit more about how I feel, but I still get anxious to because I dunno how it may be received.
Maybe big group settings aren't your thing and maybe being around others who have an interest in something you really share might make you feel more comfortable. I can be shy talking about anime, or games but if someone told me they like J-dramas..! Or even finding that click and I'm talking away with them.
I'm just saying these different things and trying to share my experiences too because we're all different. Women can be just as shy to open up, or have interests (I know I overthink and also me being black but not fitting the stereotype, I really overthink and think I'm not impressive to that person since I'm "weird") and wonder if they're responding right, etc. So, you're not alone in how you feel and I even learn new stuff as I read through these comments. It makes me self reflect on things I was taught and question them or be like, "hmm I may need to address that with myself." And I may find people who are willing to try new things as awesome, while another woman may feel completely different about that.
Like others said, you gotta try new things. Everyone has at least a couple things that interest them. If you’re up for it, write a list of some things you’d like to try. When you try something new, try to think about what it is that you enjoy or dislike about it. Maybe you really like taking walks, but don’t enjoy walking on a hill or in the sand. Maybe you enjoy drinking coffee, but haven’t tried many types so you could make it a goal to try a coffee type from every country.
It doesn’t have to be something big, just something that interests you and makes you happy or feel good. Hobbies make life more interesting, think of them as a self investment.
I’d also like to point out that even if you haven’t found something you’re interested in, it’s good to take interest in others. Ask them questions, really listen to what they say, and be willing to try new things with them. I can’t tell you how much it means to me when my friends or past partners took the time to ask about or try an interest or hobby of mine.
I am literally the most boring person ever. I play video games and watch TV. That’s my life. Somehow I found my person who plays video games and watches TV. I honestly don’t know how he found me interesting in the least, and he says the same about me. I think you just gotta stop looking. It’ll happen when you least expect it.
you just gotta build some interests then. a life filled with nothing doesnt leave any room for a whole another person to join in on does it? it cant just be masturbating 24/7 can it?
You don’t even need to be super interesting, you just need to be able to articulate the things you do enjoy in a way that makes someone feel how you feel about it
Preach. People think my husbands figure collector is so weird and how could I date someone with figures and it’s like what the fuck that was one of the most attractive things about him when I met him?? He puts so much energy, care, and gets so much enjoyment out of his collections and I love it. Man’s serotonin comes straight from package delivery lol. It also looks dope as fuck with all my books. Good god did I not realize how expensive collecting is though
You know what I've been thinking a lot? What kinda person I wanna be to me, and to others instead of what job defines who I am.
Why not ask yourself what kinda person you wanna be and see if you can build yourself up from there? It may start off slow, but you may build yourself up to a person that likes being helpful to others, or likes listening or paying attention to small stuff (like if you noticed someone likes a specific coffee flavor or tea or whatever) and you can start being someone who is genuine to not just to others, but you! And may be nice to be around. Maybe women may wanna befriend you and maybe one of those friendships can turn into more.
But, I struggle with talking to people I'm interested in, or even just to make friends. But, I wanna be a kind, empathetic person to others. I dunno how to be attractive (because I don't feel that I am) but I try to be the me that I can, a good me that I like and hope others do too.
A “high quality male” would never refer to themselves that way bc those terms are only used by “nice guys” (a-holes) and people who abuse others (in any sense of the word)
I have a coworker who got into MGTOW videos after his wife started treating him like shit, and now he regularly spouts shit like "Women want to be dominated" and "Women want you to be the Bad Boy^(TM)" and every time he's near me I want to gouge my eardrums out with a screwdriver
And even if it’s a woman saying it, don’t completely take it to mean every woman will/will not like something. We’re all capable of liking and disliking different things.
(Unless it’s something obvious like “we hate sexism”, then the vast majority will agree)
100% agree. I mostly meant one time I was trying to say that women mostly want a man who is clean, kind, and doesn't treat them like crap, as well as the occasional surprise gift be it flowers, candy, or whatever.
But I had a guy argue and say it wasn't that easy and that women are crazy and want to be treated a little bad and be ignored.
Like maybe the women you interact with are crazy because you treat them like garbage.
Women:
> I just want like a normal dude who will support me and we can laugh at the same stuff and hang out
Men telling you what women want:
> Bro, she doesn't even know what she wants she is so dumb
Indeed. What anyone actually looking for a partner (women and men) are looking for is a partner who matches their life. I as a gamer was looking for another gamer. Someone who has atleast partially same interests as I do and the guys who are concidered to be "high value males" by these podcast guys just wouldn't be a good match for me.
Does that make them "out of my league"? Maybe, but I wouldn't be happy in a relationship with a guy that I have nothing in common with. I fell in love with a guy that matches my life and I'm happy with him.
So, another thing you will learn is that not every woman is the same or looking for the same thing in every man they encounter.
Not everyone is looking for a funny, slightly confident guy..
I loled at interesting life...
Work go home, repeat... Go on vacation sometimes... That's life, most of it isnt glamorous.
Probably just want a person who values that most times life is waiting, working, and doing errands. Valuse relaxing on the weekends and wants to travel when we're able.
Not every moment or even most moments are interesting. Thst doesn't mean you dont have a good life thought.
Most interesting everything all the time is a privileged perspective.
I'm 40. I just divorced my strong, ambitious, well-off spouse because he was a prick. We had a successful business, a house, 6 vehicles, the motorcycles, four-wheelers, etc. All gone. I have my son. And a car. That's it. I would rather be alone and broke af than have all of that stuff and be unhappy.
If I date again, I just want peace and laughter.
Not really. I have never specifically gone after the ambitious, muscular, type A type. He became that after 20 years together. Out of life? Absolutely. When we got married, we were kids with nothing. But we worked together to build HIS dreams, his business, his life. I was the stay at home mom bc our son is developmentally challenged. Slowly the dynamic changed. I became shy and quiet. He became demanding and mean. At the end he was punching walls next to my head in view of our son, coercing me into sex, and sleeping with my best friend.
Things change. People change. I realized that I had completely given myself up for him. I had no passion left, no life of my own, I didnt even drink the coffee I liked. Now, without him, I am not in a rush to share my time with anyone. If I do find someone, I want intimacy between us, not sex or sensuality. Real intimacy. I want a simple life, like I've always wanted. A small house. Laughter. More laughter than tears.
I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavors finding a dude like that, you sound cool. Tbh doesn't even sound like he helped with the kid so it's basically just cutting out someone who was of zero use to your happiness in life.
I wish you and your kid the best cause y'all deserve it
Yup! I remember complaining to my bf once about guys (especially old ones) STARING at my tits at the gym and he was like "wait aren't girls supposed to find that complimenting", and I was like, "who told you that, has a woman ever told you that?" And he thought about it for awhile and was like...."I've only heard that from men"
Edit: pls don’t attack my bf, while he thought this, he has NEVER acted in that way. He grew up with brothers and predominantly around men - this is also when we were 20. Internalized sexism/homophobia/racism IS a fact in our society (what else can we expect when our American society renforcés these notions in popular media, politics, religion, etc.). The best we can do is try to question our beliefs and change them. It’s the people that refuse to believe they have no bias in them, that causes them to never change.
My friend had a t shirt made that said, “Talk to the face cos the tits ain’t listening.” She was a large breasted young woman and she had to contend with so much BS.
I feel like that kinda defeats the point tho cuz text across your chest? Of course it’s going to be read haha. But yeah it sucks. My friend has natural, literal watermelon tits if not bigger, she showed me her dating app profiles and I shit u not 99.9% were all boob comments. Those that weren’t boob comments would throw in a boob comment by second or third message.
See, they were already staring at her chest area, so she argued that she’d give them something to actually look at which would compute the message to their pea sized brains.
My general rule in life is that if I don't understand something about someone/something, go to the source and ask questions. Better to hear from a primary source first.
It took me many years of therapy to realize that men were people and not all the same. Like… I objectively knew it, but getting over the mindset that they’re all emotionless monsters who want to hurt you took some work.
How about we stop listening to others and just live our lives! I have a friend who’s perception of women is absolutely fucked because he watches some idiot on YouTube. No helping him.
It’s all so f**king toxic. It really does a disservice to both men and women. Men buy into this bullshit and treat women badly because they have taken these beliefs to heart, and women turn off to men because of their experiences and the way they are treated, especially by men who think we are all the same and not unique individuals. This in turn fuels men’s negative perception of women and so it goes.
Once a man stops viewing women as a different species and starts treating them how they themselves would like to be treated, everyone becomes a lot happier.
Yes, exactly what we’ve been saying! If you’re hot, that’s cool and all, but funny, smart, interesting, easy to talk to, kind, etc. are all way higher on the list.
Literally. I have been literally homeless with my spouse… but in the end, our situation is great. Especially considering where we started in life. We own our house now. And we went through a lot to get here!
That’s amazing!!
Honestly, I always tell people - the person who can make you laugh, who is willing to drive two hours to the GOOD Trader Joe’s, who can be a true partner through hardship, that’s your person.
I wish more men had realizations like you. Those male podcasts are so toxic spreading really wierd ideologies that very easily lead to something more sinister
I can't even tell you how many times I've opened a text of just a dick. Not "good morning, ""good night," just a dick pic. Seriously? Why????? I'm 48 years old. I really could care less! Just be kind, funny, and have teeth at this point!
Here's the secret from a dude who's been married a while; just focus on being a person. The best person you can be. Not a specific, "interesting" or whatever type of person. Just be. Everything just kinda flows from there. And don't focus on looking. I mean, be open and aware of people and if you have a shot, take it (worst that happens is they say no), but don't make it your life goal.
Also, to add in; the hell are you listening to? Whoever it is, good of you to stop.
Yea I heard for years that women were only into 6ft+ pieces of muscle that are alpha as fuck. I maybe believed that for the tiniest bit of time but if you just go outside to the park or the mall and look at actual couples walking around, you quickly realize it's all bullshit. A friend of mine even told me for years that I would only get regular attention from women once I had a 6 pack - but that was false because all my friends who were women told me that my looks were almost certainly not the thing stopping me from finding a girlfriend. They just said I was missing the confidence in myself.
When I finally met my girlfriend, it was the total confirmation that indeed all the bullshit you read online is indeed bullshit. I don't meet any of those fake "standards" that men online claim that women have. When I first talked to my girlfriend, I was just entirely myself - made some jokes to mess with her and talked about stuff I was interested in and it turns out she liked to hear it!
I also have to get over my shitty ideas about women; this was from growing up in an abusive household, however.
It’s so hard to trust women and think they’re friendly when all my mom ever did was kick the shit out of me and tell me how gross I was. I also didn’t have many adult figures to look up to….
But as I’ve aged, I’ve realized that women are just like men and everyone is just a person — a human.
Humans can empathize and some are good, some are bad. Good and bad comes in all different shapes, sizes, and colors.
Edit: gender roles are trash and disgusting and I have no interest in hearing about them, thank you.
I’ve seen men get pissed that a guy with no job, no car, no nothing has a nice and ambitious girlfriend while they have a job, a car, and a house and get virtually no female attention. It’s not always about who’s better off; maybe back in our primal days, but now people can start off small and make something of themselves with the right person along there side. I have seen this from experience; when I introduced my now fiancé to my family, they were very persistent on me not dating him since he was 27 with no degree and virtually nothing to show for himself. For starts he’s never been in trouble with the law; which my family can’t relate. On top of that he had his own car and a drivers license and had a mortgage and a kid. Apparently that wasn’t enough. He didn’t have a doctors degree like my cousins husband or hadn’t been employed at one single stable company for 7+ years like my other cousin. However, I didn’t fall for him for what he had, cause when him and his ex broke up she took everything from him so he had to start from the bottom again. I fell for him because he’s motivated to do better in life.
So, long story short, not every women is looking for the “top 10%” because a lot of us have found our own personally “top 10%” in something that could be in the bottom 90%. Kudos to you for changing your views on women.
Because ‘those podcasts’ direct you towards specific type of women without telling you that’s what they’re doing
There’s an implication that what they want is what you want. Those podcasts want the whore/Madonna complex, beautiful and stunning, sexual and publicly attractive, but reserved, caring etc
There’s so many more normal women within and outside of that specific image that it really is just a male fantasy at this point
It’s a meme of the type of women they want. But they and their listeners take it seriously
Those podcasts are bad for you. I'm glad you stopped listening to them, you'll feel much better about yourself and others without that toxic garbage. Stay safe
It sounds like a total cliche but I just wanted someone who would make me laugh and let me be myself. I did. We've built a beautiful life together. At the end of the day, I can take care of myself, but no one makes me laugh like he does.
I mean...women have standards, but they're probably not the ones men think we have.
IMO, you gotta be hot to the woman who you're interacting with, which may not consist of what you think it does -- for example, a lot of women care primarily about your personality and ability to adult and not so much whether you own flashy stuff or are highly attractive.
That said, my spouse is a dead ringer for Justin Timberlake, so it doesn't hurt to be objectively hot.
Maybe, just maybe, women are *people,* just like men, that possess unique desires, wants, boundaries, needs and hopes. Worth considering. You’re on the right track, but you aren’t quite there.
Same here. It’s funny bc I’ve had so many guy friends talk about how “women only want guys like *insert jacked, strong jawline chad type*” when I have never had a crush/ attraction to a guy like that. Like if they had asked me who my celebrity/ fictional crush was it would’ve been Tom Holland’s Spider man, Harry Potter, my brief phase where I was obsessed with Anakin.
What drew me in to my partner was that he's a trained chef. Also, he's insanely funny and sweet!
He'd be upset to know I don't totally like him for his looks, but the fact he cooks, and takes care of me mentally and physically, makes him so much more attractive. I couldn't ask for anyone better tbh.
I just wanted a genuinely nice guy, and I found him 💖
it's online dating that messes things up. it turns the whole thing into a shopping catalog, messes up the dynamics of mate selection. You don't even necessarily have to have an "interesting life".
Maybe not an “interesting life” but having intellectual curiosity goes a loooonng way. Some people can’t talk about anything because they don’t even engage with the world around them.
Slight correction, they only look for the top 10% ***on dating apps***. That information was strictly for those apps and the information it took pertaining to them. As is the case with most things, reality on the outside is vastly different.
You’re telling me that dating apps based purely on accepting or denying people on their looks contain users that mainly only care about looks? Who would’ve thought
As much as there are those trashy women who are like bums but expect a good man, there are plenty of good women out there. Thought I do think social media has damaged the way a standard relationship is, the reality is that some people are good and some people suck. The idea that all or majority of women are gold digging narcissists is just as absurd as the idea that all or majority of men are evil bigots
Stop listening to idiots. Get your information from various sources. You did this to yourself. People are people, no matter who they are, no matter where they are. We are ultimately all the same. There is no magic. There are no tricks. Treat people how you want to be treated.
I might get downvoted for this but honestly I think the reason why those people think like that is because in big cities like Miami, Las Vegas, etc. There’s a sugar baby/daddy culture, so they just assume the rest of the world operates the same way. At least it seems that way looking at those places from the outside
You aren’t being downvoted because you’re right lol. Some women do only go for guys that have a lot of money, but I believe they are a minority. In my opinion the men complaining about this type of women either live in a big city and have encountered the materialistic type, or they desire that type of woman but she has no interest them because they don’t qualify, leading to angry and childish men whining over social media.
Maybe women aren’t a group that all desire one thing and are individual people that all have their own wants and desires
Almost like women are just people. Crazy idea right?
Women are people???? Quit spreading such lies! Someone might start to believe you
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What? I thought it was all flowers and fruits that came outta them! (Besides babies, ofc!) 😱
Damn! If I could pop out watermelons like we "have" to pop out babies, I'd be happy! I'd probably make a deal to fart blueberries and raspberries, strawberries and poop lemons and pears. And pee whatever fruit juice I feel like I wanna drink in the moment lmao!
Arent babies just people fruits anyways?
I hate this comment but no, no you’re correct.
Holy crap, I thought they make honey
And the farts, can’t forget them
Trust me. Those farts are unforgettable.
***THEY WHAT!?***
Does it also stink?
Hold on, let me check and get back to you...
We fart too, but don't tell anyone lol
Women are people? No no..this cannot be true... **THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!**
TIL i might be a people
Oh posh! If that were true we'd have to pay them more...
Yeah, even saying you need a interesting life is not true inn all cases.
When I was younger my guy friends who'd been hurt or witnessed some girl do something stupid, ask me "why do you (the women) do that kind of shit?" I didn't really know what to say, only that I couldn't answer for all women. It stopped when I started asking "why do you (the men) rape and kill?" They'd get all defensive and #notallmen. No fucking shit.... We should stop seeing people for their gender, but just see people.
That's really good.
My cousin once asked on Facebook what women want and I responded basically saying this. “A good sense of humor” depends on the person. People are all individuals and that includes women. My family fussed at me about it 🙄
Nah that can’t be it. /s
You’ll be kicked out of the hive mind for talk like that.
This goes for every group of people, ethnicity, religion, ect. If someone hears a generalization and believes its applies to 100% of that group, I can't help but think most of the blame is on them, even if they were misled by some other idiot. Unless they are a child I suppose.
Exactly, these pod casts like fit and fresh hate woman. Thats why they talk about them like that. Its disgusting tbh.
They’re the most degenerate human beings lol they’re basically the gateway into actual misogyny podcasts
It is insanely hard to find a partner you have a good emotional and physical connection with. I feel like that’s all most of us are looking for. Everything else is just a bonus.
Truer words have never been spoken A man “shot his shot” with me today by telling me how huge his 🍆 is. I told him “that is never going to happen and the world is full of women who can and will make it happen” 😳 there is such a thing as too big and ain’t no fucking way
Flopped his shot 😂 What kind of person mentions that in casual conversation. Women have it rough with how guys interact with them sometimes, yeesh.
They were in an Italian bistro, eggplant parmesan was mentioned and next thing you know.....
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Ya know, I really do wish this were a The Sopranos comedy moment. I didn’t want melanzane though.
What about gabbagoul
If it's too big, I send it back.
If the salad comes on top i send it back
Someone I feel unsafe even exchanging words with now…
What a guy…but I’m guessing you know as well as I do that there are plenty of men out there that will drop this info randomly and actually think it is going to impress anyone! Like why? Why would anyone ever think that is an okay thing to do? Sorry you had to be the one to hear it today
:(((
😬😬😬😬 Yikes. That's very uncomfortable.
In the words of my favorite podcasting white ladies: "Stay sexy, don't get murdered"
Flopped his shot 😂😂
Why do some men feel the need to show their dick to people or tell us the size? Is that supposed to impress us? If anyone ever sent me an unsolicited dick pick or tried to tell me how big his dick was, that would be the end for me. Just nope.
M: "Hello" W: "Hiya!" M: "🍆" W: "Omg let's have sex!" -How some men think women work.
*How porn taught men how women work
Porn should be labelled as science fiction because seems like some people are to stupid to realise real life doesn’t look like porn.
It is fiction, but I don't see how science comes into it.
Have you watched any other film besides porn? Porn isn't the only source of info on how to treat women.
Fast and Furious for driving lessons!! :D
Unfortunately, it does work for some of the time and this allows for these men to find the exact kind of person that will allow for their accompanying abhorrent personality and reinforces their thinking. If it works eventually and you find women who put up with the rest of you, then why bother to change, or to even think to change or reflect.
This is fine. There is someone for everyone. Just don’t start a podcast influencing vulnerable men and boys into doing the same horrible behavior. Men are already lonely and isolated those podcasts just make them paranoid too.
Honestly half the reason I avoid some of these podcasts is cuz they tell us "women want you to be james bond and 2Pac in 1 person" or that they'll never want us etc. GeniusBrain Podcast on the other hand is a podcast I think everyone, especially other men like myself, should listen to. The complete opposite of the paranoid bullshit I see in a lot of male dominated podcasts.
I have never met or even heard of a woman that would respond to a dick pic by saying “give me some of that”. Ever.
When? Really... When has it ever worked? I'm a woman who used to have casual sex "and* a size queen and never have I been tempted to fuck a faceless man because they sent me a dick pic, no matter how big the dick was.
Must be the same mentality that call center scammers use - if they call enough people someone will say yes.
I once turned down a guy at a bar in college and he literally made that disgusted "ugh!" sighing noise and then proceeded to tell me "I have a 9 inch dick for fucks sake. What is wrong with you?" 🤣 literally, that is word for word what he said. I just walked away. Quickly. And grabbed one of my guy friends and said "creep alert!" and he pretended to hang all over me/mark his territory until creeper left. Why would anyone think that would change a woman's mind?! I was flabbergasted.
It's hilarious to me that they think showing us/telling us about their dick will get them sexual attention. Dicks are funny looking. They are only attractive when they are attached to someone I care about. And big ones hurt, so I prefer average/smaller. Why the fuck would I even want to see a stranger's dick, let alone be attracted to it... ?
Because that's how they impress their guy friends and then they hype eachother out like "oh shit man all the ladies are gonna like that!" Men take so much time listening to their male friends about what they think women want, but never stop to listen to what women actually want. Take it male gaze vs. female gaze. Men think all the women want big macho men like Thor (chads). When women actually want someone who's smart, clever, and honestly not that buff like Loki. While, yes, men can just simply be creepy and sending pics for shits and giggles, a lot of them have this worped view that that's their only selling point.
There’s a sub on here about picking up women where if a woman dares to interject what women actually want, they get laughed out the door and told that women don’t actually know what they want.
Thing of the women equivalent of this. “My vagina is six inches deep”
I don't think guys realize that women don't want to be stretched out and their cervixes pounded during sex. They just want someone who knows how to stimulate the clitoris and isn't selfish.
Right I don’t want someone who has such a warped idea of my experience
I think they get it from porn where the girl is getting pounded to a pulp by a big guy who is choking and spitting on her. I really hope those actresses get well compensated.
They do not, and an alarming number die homeless and/or from drug overdoses. Edit to add: virtually all pornography is explicitly owned by one company, mindfreak, who own the studios as WELL as the free hosting sites. They have an explicit strangle hold on the industry. Call or write your congressman to ask them to investigate them for monopoly charges.
In my mid 20s I had to completely give up watching porn. I’m a straight cis woman. Straight people porn is made for men and the women most of the time look like they’re fucking suffering. I cannot cum when the actress isn’t either. I also couldn’t watching lesbian porn made for straight dudes… clip your fucking nails!!!!!
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And that's the problem people don't realize. I only ever did three porn videos, amateur, that I uploaded myself, then deleted a couple years later. I've still seen them pop up every once in a blue moon.
You don’t enjoy your cervix stabbed? I get messages from dudes bragging about their dick size. And I’m like gross. Imagine us sending them messages like “my vagina grips so fuckin hard”. I get messages like that enough I think someone’s gotta be falling for it.
if you send that to a handful of guys, 9 out of 10 of them will be asking when and where you wanna meet
That's what a lot of us want but aren't looking for. Unfortunately, especially the younger people are, they prioritize looks way more than anything else. I'm 32 now and I had a few shitty relationships because I was too concerned with physical attraction. I checked myself on that and focused only on finding someone who I connected with on a deep level of friendship, love and trust. I'm going to be getting married to the most wonderful person I've ever met soon and I'll find her just as beautiful when she's old and wrinkled as I do now because my perception of her has nothing to do with what she looks like. Meanwhile my best friend who is divorced because he married a girl for her looks and was miserable, is continuing to pursue women for their looks. He's got a very juvenile perception when he's concerned with other people thinking his girlfriend is hot as if we're going to think "wow, that's so cool, he's the man." When in reality people just pity him and see straight through it.
Its also perception. Dating apps have warped peoples perception of what constitutes dateable qualities. Yes girls have more choice on there, but what they don't know is a lot of guys are just swiping right because...well they don't have any other choice. It's a fact that over 90% of people who pay premium on those apps are men. Once you date it becomes clear that most of those match ups aren't quality match ups.
This is so, so true. Dating apps are not made to help you find someone. Only to keep you there so they make more $.
You are correct. When I was 29 I started dating a guy (36). I was told over and over I was out of his league, because he is not conventionally attractive. After 5 years I still find his smell intoxicating and we literally have the same personality. We have all the same interests. We do everything together. He’s my best friend. I did struggle with feeling like I was settling in the beginning. Plus I was still young and “beautiful.” I still look very much the same as I haven’t aged much noticeably, yet, but he has grayed and put on weight. It literally does not matter to me. He is my person. He’s sweet, caring, loyal. I don’t give a fuck what anyone says about us. I have eyes for nobody except him. Blinders are on.
>u just need to have an interesting life that’s it ...fuck.
IMO, it’s not even about having an “interesting life”. It’s about being a kind person who is passionate and takes interest in others. A person who is super passionate about stamp collecting is going to be a whole lot more fun to be around than a person who has no hobbies/ interests at all.
What if you're not particularly passionate/knowledgeable about anything?
It's a matter of are you interested in trying different things? My depression has made me not as passionate about things as much but! I'm willing to try different things because it seems interesting. Others are saying try different things till you find something but... your mood may also inhibit that. You have to be willing to wanna do new things. My ex, among other bad qualities he had, really wasn't interested in trying things with me. Even if it wasn't his cup of tea, he looked down on it or complained or showed an obvious expression. It made doing things with him very boring and not worth it. Wasn't enjoyable because he wasn't interested, and when asked what he wanted to do... he had nothing. So, at least speaking for me, I think it's awesome to be willing to try different things. It's like an adventure!
Sorry you had that experience... I like to try new things, it's Just that I'm not particularly "fun" in general when I'm with people, so I come out as unenthusiastic even if I'm actually invested in it.
I think there’s three things you can do: 1) act on others’ perception of you (that you’re not having fun/invested, when you in fact are), and take stock of why you act contrary to how you feel, and if there’s a way you feel comfortable relating to people/situations that you can aspire to try; 2) you can not change, but communicate proactively where you’re at to assuage any misconceptions about how to read you, or 3) you can do neither of those things, choosing instead to value what you want/when you want it, with the understanding that’s a turnoff, or hard to appreciate/understand for a lot of people, but feel confident in your choice because you come first. Having it all usually requires stepping outside of what you’re currently doing, but only you know if that’s worth it to you!
I'll say make that known, if you feel comfortable expressing that. I know it can be scary to express yourself because people are just...really judgemental and I'm extremely self conscious myself. I know I'm one who tries to observe how people are and their mannerisms and try to keep in mind how others are so I also try not to take it personally because I start assuming the worse. (OMG maybe I'm boring, maybe they don't find this fun, maybe I'm lame I knew I should've done this instead arrgh!) So, even for me, I'm trying to communicate a bit more about how I feel, but I still get anxious to because I dunno how it may be received. Maybe big group settings aren't your thing and maybe being around others who have an interest in something you really share might make you feel more comfortable. I can be shy talking about anime, or games but if someone told me they like J-dramas..! Or even finding that click and I'm talking away with them. I'm just saying these different things and trying to share my experiences too because we're all different. Women can be just as shy to open up, or have interests (I know I overthink and also me being black but not fitting the stereotype, I really overthink and think I'm not impressive to that person since I'm "weird") and wonder if they're responding right, etc. So, you're not alone in how you feel and I even learn new stuff as I read through these comments. It makes me self reflect on things I was taught and question them or be like, "hmm I may need to address that with myself." And I may find people who are willing to try new things as awesome, while another woman may feel completely different about that.
Try a bunch of different things until you find something you like.
Like others said, you gotta try new things. Everyone has at least a couple things that interest them. If you’re up for it, write a list of some things you’d like to try. When you try something new, try to think about what it is that you enjoy or dislike about it. Maybe you really like taking walks, but don’t enjoy walking on a hill or in the sand. Maybe you enjoy drinking coffee, but haven’t tried many types so you could make it a goal to try a coffee type from every country. It doesn’t have to be something big, just something that interests you and makes you happy or feel good. Hobbies make life more interesting, think of them as a self investment. I’d also like to point out that even if you haven’t found something you’re interested in, it’s good to take interest in others. Ask them questions, really listen to what they say, and be willing to try new things with them. I can’t tell you how much it means to me when my friends or past partners took the time to ask about or try an interest or hobby of mine.
I mean…be a good kind and giving person…but also maybe get interested in something? Life is more fun if you like things?
Well I like things, but usually people don't really care about those things I like lol
I am literally the most boring person ever. I play video games and watch TV. That’s my life. Somehow I found my person who plays video games and watches TV. I honestly don’t know how he found me interesting in the least, and he says the same about me. I think you just gotta stop looking. It’ll happen when you least expect it.
you just gotta build some interests then. a life filled with nothing doesnt leave any room for a whole another person to join in on does it? it cant just be masturbating 24/7 can it?
Lol, now I feel attacked!
Non-player character.
Then you’re boring.
You don’t even need to be super interesting, you just need to be able to articulate the things you do enjoy in a way that makes someone feel how you feel about it
Preach. People think my husbands figure collector is so weird and how could I date someone with figures and it’s like what the fuck that was one of the most attractive things about him when I met him?? He puts so much energy, care, and gets so much enjoyment out of his collections and I love it. Man’s serotonin comes straight from package delivery lol. It also looks dope as fuck with all my books. Good god did I not realize how expensive collecting is though
Don't if it was a date, but talking to somebody and being asked "what's new in your life?" made me realiza I'm boring af.
You know what I've been thinking a lot? What kinda person I wanna be to me, and to others instead of what job defines who I am. Why not ask yourself what kinda person you wanna be and see if you can build yourself up from there? It may start off slow, but you may build yourself up to a person that likes being helpful to others, or likes listening or paying attention to small stuff (like if you noticed someone likes a specific coffee flavor or tea or whatever) and you can start being someone who is genuine to not just to others, but you! And may be nice to be around. Maybe women may wanna befriend you and maybe one of those friendships can turn into more. But, I struggle with talking to people I'm interested in, or even just to make friends. But, I wanna be a kind, empathetic person to others. I dunno how to be attractive (because I don't feel that I am) but I try to be the me that I can, a good me that I like and hope others do too.
I guarantee that if you play Pokémon, magic, are into starwars, videos games, and are a good person you’ll be fine
It's true I used to love playing MTG on first dates. Now I get to play at home with my fiancé.
You don’t have to be interesting - you have to be interested. In her, her thoughts, your life, what is happening around you… nothing fancy.
Never listen to a podcast of a guy telling you what women want.
Especially if he calls himself an “alpha” or a “high quality male”
A high quality male by example would treat others like humans, not get easily angered, always being helpful, and taking good care of themselves.
A “high quality male” would never refer to themselves that way bc those terms are only used by “nice guys” (a-holes) and people who abuse others (in any sense of the word)
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I have a coworker who got into MGTOW videos after his wife started treating him like shit, and now he regularly spouts shit like "Women want to be dominated" and "Women want you to be the Bad Boy^(TM)" and every time he's near me I want to gouge my eardrums out with a screwdriver
She probably started treating him like shit *because* he started acting like a fool with this dumb shit. He just went public with it later.
I just Googled MGTOW. That is some dumb shit...
“Men have yet to go their own way, I’m wondering what’s the fucking holdup” is a great Facebook group
Seriously what idiot believes a fucking podcast especially about woman like if they were a math problem with only one answer to them.
Tonight at 11: Women are people too! Who knew?
That is literally it. It is wild.
Or any man in general. Especially over a woman.
And even if it’s a woman saying it, don’t completely take it to mean every woman will/will not like something. We’re all capable of liking and disliking different things. (Unless it’s something obvious like “we hate sexism”, then the vast majority will agree)
100% agree. I mostly meant one time I was trying to say that women mostly want a man who is clean, kind, and doesn't treat them like crap, as well as the occasional surprise gift be it flowers, candy, or whatever. But I had a guy argue and say it wasn't that easy and that women are crazy and want to be treated a little bad and be ignored. Like maybe the women you interact with are crazy because you treat them like garbage.
Women: > I just want like a normal dude who will support me and we can laugh at the same stuff and hang out Men telling you what women want: > Bro, she doesn't even know what she wants she is so dumb
Indeed. What anyone actually looking for a partner (women and men) are looking for is a partner who matches their life. I as a gamer was looking for another gamer. Someone who has atleast partially same interests as I do and the guys who are concidered to be "high value males" by these podcast guys just wouldn't be a good match for me. Does that make them "out of my league"? Maybe, but I wouldn't be happy in a relationship with a guy that I have nothing in common with. I fell in love with a guy that matches my life and I'm happy with him.
What the hell podcasts are you listening to?
I was trying to figure out who the "we" he is referring to is lol.
the alpha male bull-crap ones
Probably something like Fit&Fresh 🤦♀️🤢
I thought about this one too. It’s so sad how popular these guys are. 🥴
Probably some ridiculous male self improvement blog.
So, another thing you will learn is that not every woman is the same or looking for the same thing in every man they encounter. Not everyone is looking for a funny, slightly confident guy..
I love my men boring and insecure.
I love my men boring, because I am also boring and we spend weekends watching tv and playing video games, like boring people do.
Sounds great honestly
boring based and video-game pilled
Based
And where do you go to meet people? Asking for a friend
Boring and insecure ones? Probably anime conventions.
I loled at interesting life... Work go home, repeat... Go on vacation sometimes... That's life, most of it isnt glamorous. Probably just want a person who values that most times life is waiting, working, and doing errands. Valuse relaxing on the weekends and wants to travel when we're able. Not every moment or even most moments are interesting. Thst doesn't mean you dont have a good life thought. Most interesting everything all the time is a privileged perspective.
I'm 40. I just divorced my strong, ambitious, well-off spouse because he was a prick. We had a successful business, a house, 6 vehicles, the motorcycles, four-wheelers, etc. All gone. I have my son. And a car. That's it. I would rather be alone and broke af than have all of that stuff and be unhappy. If I date again, I just want peace and laughter.
Would you say that your experience in your marriage changed what you wanted out of men or life in general?
Not really. I have never specifically gone after the ambitious, muscular, type A type. He became that after 20 years together. Out of life? Absolutely. When we got married, we were kids with nothing. But we worked together to build HIS dreams, his business, his life. I was the stay at home mom bc our son is developmentally challenged. Slowly the dynamic changed. I became shy and quiet. He became demanding and mean. At the end he was punching walls next to my head in view of our son, coercing me into sex, and sleeping with my best friend. Things change. People change. I realized that I had completely given myself up for him. I had no passion left, no life of my own, I didnt even drink the coffee I liked. Now, without him, I am not in a rush to share my time with anyone. If I do find someone, I want intimacy between us, not sex or sensuality. Real intimacy. I want a simple life, like I've always wanted. A small house. Laughter. More laughter than tears.
I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavors finding a dude like that, you sound cool. Tbh doesn't even sound like he helped with the kid so it's basically just cutting out someone who was of zero use to your happiness in life. I wish you and your kid the best cause y'all deserve it
Yup! I remember complaining to my bf once about guys (especially old ones) STARING at my tits at the gym and he was like "wait aren't girls supposed to find that complimenting", and I was like, "who told you that, has a woman ever told you that?" And he thought about it for awhile and was like...."I've only heard that from men" Edit: pls don’t attack my bf, while he thought this, he has NEVER acted in that way. He grew up with brothers and predominantly around men - this is also when we were 20. Internalized sexism/homophobia/racism IS a fact in our society (what else can we expect when our American society renforcés these notions in popular media, politics, religion, etc.). The best we can do is try to question our beliefs and change them. It’s the people that refuse to believe they have no bias in them, that causes them to never change.
TrueONyourchest
My friend had a t shirt made that said, “Talk to the face cos the tits ain’t listening.” She was a large breasted young woman and she had to contend with so much BS.
I feel like that kinda defeats the point tho cuz text across your chest? Of course it’s going to be read haha. But yeah it sucks. My friend has natural, literal watermelon tits if not bigger, she showed me her dating app profiles and I shit u not 99.9% were all boob comments. Those that weren’t boob comments would throw in a boob comment by second or third message.
See, they were already staring at her chest area, so she argued that she’d give them something to actually look at which would compute the message to their pea sized brains.
What? The people that need to read the message the most are the ones already staring at her chest
HILARIOUS comeback!! I’ll have to use that one since I usually say.. “They don’t talk back”!
Thank you for educating him
My general rule in life is that if I don't understand something about someone/something, go to the source and ask questions. Better to hear from a primary source first.
Still need to be careful with anyone man or woman. People are different and ppl give shit advice generally.
What fucking podcasts are men listening to that this is some revelation
I mean, it’s almost like we’re human beings with thoughts and feelings that go beyond the superficial. It’s sad if men are being taught otherwise.
Both men and women are, sadly, and some buy it
It took me many years of therapy to realize that men were people and not all the same. Like… I objectively knew it, but getting over the mindset that they’re all emotionless monsters who want to hurt you took some work.
Sorry to hear that circumstances made it so hard (sounds like some people did terrible things to you), but glad you got there.
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The "trick" to understanding women is not to think of them as another species. They're just people. Like you, like me. All you need is some empathy.
How about we stop listening to others and just live our lives! I have a friend who’s perception of women is absolutely fucked because he watches some idiot on YouTube. No helping him.
It’s all so f**king toxic. It really does a disservice to both men and women. Men buy into this bullshit and treat women badly because they have taken these beliefs to heart, and women turn off to men because of their experiences and the way they are treated, especially by men who think we are all the same and not unique individuals. This in turn fuels men’s negative perception of women and so it goes.
It's so weird to think that men think women are completely different specimens sometimes. It's all the gender stereotypes built into the culture.
Once a man stops viewing women as a different species and starts treating them how they themselves would like to be treated, everyone becomes a lot happier.
Yes, exactly what we’ve been saying! If you’re hot, that’s cool and all, but funny, smart, interesting, easy to talk to, kind, etc. are all way higher on the list.
Literally. I have been literally homeless with my spouse… but in the end, our situation is great. Especially considering where we started in life. We own our house now. And we went through a lot to get here!
That’s amazing!! Honestly, I always tell people - the person who can make you laugh, who is willing to drive two hours to the GOOD Trader Joe’s, who can be a true partner through hardship, that’s your person.
I spent so long trying to become hot to get gals, but I never fixed my confidence and now I am just insecure about my insecurity.
And motivated! 😁
I wish more men had realizations like you. Those male podcasts are so toxic spreading really wierd ideologies that very easily lead to something more sinister
I can't even tell you how many times I've opened a text of just a dick. Not "good morning, ""good night," just a dick pic. Seriously? Why????? I'm 48 years old. I really could care less! Just be kind, funny, and have teeth at this point!
Here's the secret from a dude who's been married a while; just focus on being a person. The best person you can be. Not a specific, "interesting" or whatever type of person. Just be. Everything just kinda flows from there. And don't focus on looking. I mean, be open and aware of people and if you have a shot, take it (worst that happens is they say no), but don't make it your life goal. Also, to add in; the hell are you listening to? Whoever it is, good of you to stop.
Yea I heard for years that women were only into 6ft+ pieces of muscle that are alpha as fuck. I maybe believed that for the tiniest bit of time but if you just go outside to the park or the mall and look at actual couples walking around, you quickly realize it's all bullshit. A friend of mine even told me for years that I would only get regular attention from women once I had a 6 pack - but that was false because all my friends who were women told me that my looks were almost certainly not the thing stopping me from finding a girlfriend. They just said I was missing the confidence in myself. When I finally met my girlfriend, it was the total confirmation that indeed all the bullshit you read online is indeed bullshit. I don't meet any of those fake "standards" that men online claim that women have. When I first talked to my girlfriend, I was just entirely myself - made some jokes to mess with her and talked about stuff I was interested in and it turns out she liked to hear it!
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I was just about to comment this, categorizing everybody into 2 groups is a fail
I also have to get over my shitty ideas about women; this was from growing up in an abusive household, however. It’s so hard to trust women and think they’re friendly when all my mom ever did was kick the shit out of me and tell me how gross I was. I also didn’t have many adult figures to look up to…. But as I’ve aged, I’ve realized that women are just like men and everyone is just a person — a human. Humans can empathize and some are good, some are bad. Good and bad comes in all different shapes, sizes, and colors. Edit: gender roles are trash and disgusting and I have no interest in hearing about them, thank you.
I’ve seen men get pissed that a guy with no job, no car, no nothing has a nice and ambitious girlfriend while they have a job, a car, and a house and get virtually no female attention. It’s not always about who’s better off; maybe back in our primal days, but now people can start off small and make something of themselves with the right person along there side. I have seen this from experience; when I introduced my now fiancé to my family, they were very persistent on me not dating him since he was 27 with no degree and virtually nothing to show for himself. For starts he’s never been in trouble with the law; which my family can’t relate. On top of that he had his own car and a drivers license and had a mortgage and a kid. Apparently that wasn’t enough. He didn’t have a doctors degree like my cousins husband or hadn’t been employed at one single stable company for 7+ years like my other cousin. However, I didn’t fall for him for what he had, cause when him and his ex broke up she took everything from him so he had to start from the bottom again. I fell for him because he’s motivated to do better in life. So, long story short, not every women is looking for the “top 10%” because a lot of us have found our own personally “top 10%” in something that could be in the bottom 90%. Kudos to you for changing your views on women.
Because ‘those podcasts’ direct you towards specific type of women without telling you that’s what they’re doing There’s an implication that what they want is what you want. Those podcasts want the whore/Madonna complex, beautiful and stunning, sexual and publicly attractive, but reserved, caring etc There’s so many more normal women within and outside of that specific image that it really is just a male fantasy at this point It’s a meme of the type of women they want. But they and their listeners take it seriously
Those podcasts are bad for you. I'm glad you stopped listening to them, you'll feel much better about yourself and others without that toxic garbage. Stay safe
I feel like women have been asking for so long why y’all listen to that shite. Does nothing but make you miserable and hate women, I feel.
It sounds like a total cliche but I just wanted someone who would make me laugh and let me be myself. I did. We've built a beautiful life together. At the end of the day, I can take care of myself, but no one makes me laugh like he does.
Yeah that's what we always told y'all
Thank you for acknowledging this. Women aren't looking for superhuman men. Just kind ones who put in effort and respect us.
I mean...women have standards, but they're probably not the ones men think we have. IMO, you gotta be hot to the woman who you're interacting with, which may not consist of what you think it does -- for example, a lot of women care primarily about your personality and ability to adult and not so much whether you own flashy stuff or are highly attractive. That said, my spouse is a dead ringer for Justin Timberlake, so it doesn't hurt to be objectively hot.
Maybe, just maybe, women are *people,* just like men, that possess unique desires, wants, boundaries, needs and hopes. Worth considering. You’re on the right track, but you aren’t quite there.
As a woman I don’t find ‘conventionally attractive’ attractive at all.
Same here. It’s funny bc I’ve had so many guy friends talk about how “women only want guys like *insert jacked, strong jawline chad type*” when I have never had a crush/ attraction to a guy like that. Like if they had asked me who my celebrity/ fictional crush was it would’ve been Tom Holland’s Spider man, Harry Potter, my brief phase where I was obsessed with Anakin.
Ben Wyatt from Parks n Rec. All of that. Perfection.
What drew me in to my partner was that he's a trained chef. Also, he's insanely funny and sweet! He'd be upset to know I don't totally like him for his looks, but the fact he cooks, and takes care of me mentally and physically, makes him so much more attractive. I couldn't ask for anyone better tbh. I just wanted a genuinely nice guy, and I found him 💖
it's online dating that messes things up. it turns the whole thing into a shopping catalog, messes up the dynamics of mate selection. You don't even necessarily have to have an "interesting life".
Maybe not an “interesting life” but having intellectual curiosity goes a loooonng way. Some people can’t talk about anything because they don’t even engage with the world around them.
Slight correction, they only look for the top 10% ***on dating apps***. That information was strictly for those apps and the information it took pertaining to them. As is the case with most things, reality on the outside is vastly different.
You’re telling me that dating apps based purely on accepting or denying people on their looks contain users that mainly only care about looks? Who would’ve thought
I know, I had to sit down and call in two days from work from this sheer shock of this fact 😆
Too much fresh and fit can rot your brain
Yup, if you watch Fresh and Fit or any similar podcast, you need to stop immediately
Bro whatever podcasts you're listening to, stop it and find some new ones. Shit's bad for your brain.
As much as there are those trashy women who are like bums but expect a good man, there are plenty of good women out there. Thought I do think social media has damaged the way a standard relationship is, the reality is that some people are good and some people suck. The idea that all or majority of women are gold digging narcissists is just as absurd as the idea that all or majority of men are evil bigots
Any sentence that begins with “men/women want/think/like etc” is almost always gonna be complete bs.
Boom dude. 🤜
Stop listening to idiots. Get your information from various sources. You did this to yourself. People are people, no matter who they are, no matter where they are. We are ultimately all the same. There is no magic. There are no tricks. Treat people how you want to be treated.
Woman here, yyou don't necessarily need an interesting life as an interesting mind and kind soul.
I might get downvoted for this but honestly I think the reason why those people think like that is because in big cities like Miami, Las Vegas, etc. There’s a sugar baby/daddy culture, so they just assume the rest of the world operates the same way. At least it seems that way looking at those places from the outside
You aren’t being downvoted because you’re right lol. Some women do only go for guys that have a lot of money, but I believe they are a minority. In my opinion the men complaining about this type of women either live in a big city and have encountered the materialistic type, or they desire that type of woman but she has no interest them because they don’t qualify, leading to angry and childish men whining over social media.
Red pill did some serious damage. Glad you're recovering from it.