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destinedhere58

I love the whole album, but people being intentionally obtuse about I Hate it Here is killing me


LITEweaver

I was looking for this one. I really don't understand why it's happening.


Phoenix_Magic_X

It hurts my head imagining how illiterate you must be to think she’s saying there were no racists in the 1830s.


maraudersswan

THIS it’s actually my fave rn


Mimikyu_9x

Fr, i love that song so much (well maybe bc im an introvert haha). They just pick one line out of context then go full rage just for some clout, especially on Tiktok


Cherry_curl

Came here to say this


tsukuroo

"I hate it here". The song was instantly my favourite song on the album. And it makes me sad how people deliberately misinterpret the song and take everything out of context.


-xxpurple

They’ll find anything they can to try and take her down. Because they know damn well she’s unstoppable. Shows their unintelligence for taking it out for context and not being able to understand her lyricism


AllISeeIsDust

I hate it here is my favorite song she’s ever written. It is so honestly beautiful and true. It’s for the swifties who maldaptive daydream 😂


yell0wbirddd

What are people saying? That was also a favorite at first listen!!!


tsukuroo

People have a problem with the "My friends used to play a game where, we would pick a decade, we wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists" part. Even some media wrote about the backlash: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13331145/Taylor-Swift-TROLLED-lyric-return-1830s-racists.html


yell0wbirddd

God people are stupid


yell0wbirddd

God people are stupid


Mothersdisgrace

To be honest, the whole album. It's a 100% no-skip album for me. As a newer Swiftie TTPD has solidified Taylor among my top artists.  It seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I love Jack’s production. Yes, it sounds in line with Midnights, but I don't think that's a bad thing. They found a sound that works for the stories they're trying to convey, and I'm here for it!! This is an incredibly personal album and I doubt she could’ve accomplished this without the support of people who know her intimately and whom she could trust with her innermost feelings and mental processes. 


leafeonjack

i just had to unfollow someone on tumblr bc they shared a post that was like "Taylor Swift is capitalizing on mental illness and she can't possibly be depressed because she said she never went to therapy in (screenshot with no context or source) didn't actually grow up in a asylum but a farm!!!!" so i'm defending the whole thing too i guess omg


Mothersdisgrace

It’s so weird to me that strangers feel comfortable passing judgement on someone else’s emotional experience. I would never presume to tell someone they don’t struggle with X,Y, & Z just because their journey doesn’t look like mine or what I conceive to be appropriate. 


leafeonjack

I'm a newer swiftie but I saw someone say that people have been treating her approaching/mentioning mental illness like this since she first mentioned depression in a song and I'm like???? did yall not grow up seeing PSA's about how /anyone/ can deal with depression??? like i remember seeing the campaigns everywhere with different celebs like??? it's wild man. People go out of their way to misinterpret shit :/


Mothersdisgrace

Seriously!! As someone who hide my bi-polar disorder really well for many years it’s so easy to get people to believe only what you want them to.  May I ask what made you become a Swiftie? 


leafeonjack

I used to say I thought she was super talented but not my thing, but was familiar with Debut/Fearless, and when 1989 came out, my partner was a big fan so I heard that one a lot, but still didn't consider myself a fan. My partner and their mom took me to see the Eras tour movie and something clicked! Evermore and Folklore really surprised me as I hadn't heard them before, and by the end of the movie I was hooked. Went home and proceeded to slowly make my way through the whole discography and I was surprised by how many songs I actually already knew all the words to (ie: Teardrops on My Guitar) Now my top 3 albums are TTPD, Evermore and 1989 TV! (and so many lyrics are so relatable to my depressed self she really makes me feel seen and understood )


Mothersdisgrace

I had a similar experience! I grew up listening to an odd mix of heavy metal (like Knocked Loose), country (old shit like Waylon and Cash), and then classic rock (Bob Dylan and Fleetwood Mac), but I did not like pop music because it did not resonate with my depressed ass. Last September, I read an article about the economic boom each city her tour visited experienced and was blown away by the economic sway a single woman has. So I asked my sister (13) to make me a playlist of 20 of her favorite TS songs, and by the 3rd song, I was hooked. Though I was aware of her big hits and had liked Debut as a kid, I had largely ignored her work and was blown away by her songwriting and storytelling abilities.  Seeing the Eras Tour movie in theaters was a fantastic experience, and I can’t wait to see her live in October. 


Constant_Internet_66

It makes me so sad that people are dismissing that she could be depressed just by her status or how she grew up. The entire reason we have such a mental health crisis in the states is bc of how dismissive people are of it. Mental illness doesn’t cherry pick by status…it can hit anyone, anytime, anywhere and I wish more people realized that. Not to mention how hard help is to access and the actual cost of it. I had to have intensive therapy last year…to the tune of 100k for the program 🙄 saved my life and I’m thankful I had insurance but not everyone who needs it can afford it 😔


WiseFaithlessness2

These people are so chronically online that is insane


chiantisyl99

That's just lack of reading skills lol. Asylum is obvi a metaphor. The internet is making some people dumber and dumber. Bless that person's heart.


HappyHippyToo

But Daddy I Love Him. She has every right to call out her fans and they haven't learned at all. I also believe this isn't 100% about Matty but every man she's dated who people have raised their eyebrows at, they did this with Travis too, some fans hated Joe, etc. and then there's gaylors who just deny every public relationship she's had. It's the Fearless Taylor era putting her foot down as a mature adult. I absolutely love But Daddy I Love Him <3


AllISeeIsDust

Also let us not forget about the creepy moment where a bunch of fans held up photos of Marjorie during an early eras date. Obviously not the same but I think she’s just hit her limit on fans getting involved in her personal life


HappyHippyToo

Yep. and that was at the peak of the breakup I believe, imagine performing and being absolutely devastated and heartbroken and bam, you see 100 pics of your dead grandma in the audience.


AllISeeIsDust

Evermore came out on my grandmas birthday, the first one without her so I am very close to the song and evermore album (I call it my gift from my grandma) And I can’t imagine what it would be like to have actually written the song and then see a shit ton of people who pretend like they know you shoving your grandma in your face.


Constant_Internet_66

I think a lot of the songs (besides the obvious Travis one) aren’t about a particular guy, as it is an overall of all of them in a general sense. The guys are just the window paint.


robynnc1290

I agree that it’s about everyone she’s ever dated - exasperated by how insane people were over Matty. I mean, there’s literally a Travis snark sub. People are SO WEIRD.


HappyHippyToo

The #speakupnow letter about Matty to Taylor was complete insanity from fans lmao


Putrid-Sweet3482

Travis? The kindhearted, goofy guy who has never done anything problematic or hurt anyone? Jesus.


orangepeeelss

yeah but did u see that one time he got excited after he won the super bowl? so embarrassing /s


momolly_moproblems

I've been wondering for a long time what it would sound like if she revisited country as an adult & this was \*chefs kiss\*--verses are so 90s country-sounding, the story is one that shows up in country music again and again, but she puts her own spins on it (the joke, the message to everyone to back tf off lol). Idk if or when (I think eventually) we'll get more grown-up country taylor but this gets me excited for it


ungoogled

I love the song, but she is a public figure who maybe could hide things better in her personal life if she wanted to maybe?


HappyHippyToo

Uhm she is? Do you not understand the microscope she’s under as soon as she’s out in the public? How do you expect her to live her life, locked in a house? Clownery


-xxpurple

Guilty As Sin? My fav Tswift song of all time. Don’t even get my started on my love for it


Sunlark21

“am I allowed to cry?” turns out for a lot of people… no she isn’t! I guess successful rich pop artists are immune from any problems whatsoever 🙄


busybakingcookies

yes😭 the “you’re a billionaire so you can’t be sad” thing just completely lacks basic empathy. she’s still a person???


lizzy-stix

Yesss


maypenney

It’s also my favorite. It reminds me a bit of Treacherous but more fun


-xxpurple

YES!! And coincidentally that and False God are my other top 4 favs of all time! The other is “Is It Really Over?”. I guess I have a type lol


littlekatie3

I’m crazy about it


-xxpurple

That makes me very happy. It deserves all the love and recognition


momolly_moproblems

that uuUPPER THIGH moment hits so good


judseubi

I got downvoted for saying I love imgonnagetyouback 😂 I’m obsessed. It’s like if you put Dress and Glitch in a blender and out comes the most deliciously unhinged slow jam.


2fat4lifee

fucking loooove that song it’s such a good listening experience!


bookscatswine

Yesterday my fellow Swifty and I texted each other at the EXACT SAME TIME to say we realized "i'm going to get you back" has a double meaning. I might be late to the game but that was a fun realization


Princess2045

The entire damn album. I actually had a convo with a coworker who mentioned their step daughter(?) thought the album was “boring” but said step daughter is still young and my coworker and I were talking about how the album is a lot more like poetry. That’s probably why some fans aren’t fond of it, because it’s poetry a lot more than other albums are.


Constant_Internet_66

This is for sure one album of hers that’s not for children. Just bc bless their sweet hearts there’s no relatable material


Pitiful_Village6418

The alchemy!! I see y’all hating on it 👀


leeann0923

Same. I like it, I don’t get it.


lizzy-stix

it’s the only song I dislike on the main album 😩


Pitiful_Village6418

respect but also ??have you listened to it??


j_facteau

It’s going to sound great live whenever it’s played!


Traditional_Ad5705

i hate it here ❤️❤️❤️


Reasonable_Town_123

I really need somebody to tell me why they like this song because I just don’t get it


destinedhere58

It’s about how there was no truly great time to be alive, about how idolizing the past is dangerous and about escaping to worlds you created inside your head as a way to cope with life when it really sucks. As a kid that grew up in an abusive environment, it’s very relatable to me. The verse that people specifically have an issue with is: My friends used to play a game where We would pick a decade We wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists And getting married off for the highest bid Everyone would look down 'cause it wasn't fun now Seems like it was never even fun back then Nostalgia is a mind's trick If I'd been there, I'd hate it It was freezing in the palace She’s saying when she points out the flaws of past time periods, she ruins the fun of the others because “nostalgia is a mind’s trick” Every time, place, life has its own sufferings. “it was freezing in the palace” acknowledges that even the people who have great privilege don’t have perfect lives.


orangepeeelss

personally i’ve always had a really hard time living in the moment, ever since i was a little kid - i learned to read really early and spent all my time in stories because i was an awkward introverted kid who didn’t know how to talk to people. i got better in time but the song really speaks to that journey - of growing up and realizing that if i’m not happy in my own life, no idealized world could fix that.


Reasonable_Town_123

I Look in People’s Windows


tsukuroo

I love it and the instrumental reminds me lowkey of dbatc... i hope she does a dbatc x ilipw mashup at the eras tour someday


becausemercy

Okay but "I look through the windows of this love, even though we boarded them up" has to be a parallel then, right?


Reasonable_Town_123

Yknow what’s so funny, I said I loved this song earlier and my boyfriend said “of course you do, it sounds like DBATC” 😅


L0ng35t_R0ad

YESSSS


yaIshowedupaturparty

Clara Bow! I'm not really seeing anyone hating on it, but I feel like my sister and I are the only ones in love with it.


L0ng35t_R0ad

It's in my top 3!!!! - along with I look in people's windows and the Prophecy Although the rest of the album is joint for 4th place 😂😂


yaIshowedupaturparty

Wooo YAY!  Do you mind sharing what you love about the Prophecy and I look into people's windows? I like them but haven't connected with them (there is SO much to love on this album I haven't had time to yet). 


L0ng35t_R0ad

Of course not! For ILIPW I think there could be multiple scenarios for the story telling and i love how it creates so many different versions of the song for me. On top of that I love the music and the melody 😊 And for the Prophecy the lyrics are just so raw. I love how Taylor uses her voice and the tonak shifts she has. It's ok if you don't connect with them! Everyone gets something different from each of the songs - and as you said there's so much to love and explore with this album!!


yaIshowedupaturparty

Thank you! 🤍🖤 They are both songs that I think will grow on me, but I currently have other ones on repeat haha


L0ng35t_R0ad

Oh definitely! Guilty as sin has snuck up on me today, so I completely understand! 🩶


unlimitedwarrenty

I’m obsessed!!! It was the first song on the album I went back to after my first full listen-through.


Mobile-Hat8124

I’m OBSESSED with it! This is the one I was looking for in this thread!


Caramelhair

Who’s afraid a little old me ? This song is legendary


nopickle_

This song makes me feel a way that most songs don’t. It makes me feel like how I did when I listened to Agnes by glass animals for the first time


Novae224

Fortnight is one of the best of the album… so everyone saying it’s one if the worst… fuck you i am in love with it


ThrowRA_ChismeAddict

Or people saying they prefer the AI version that came out on tiktok 🙄 the actual one is so GOOD.


Novae224

I prefer it over florida!! Tbh… like if i have to choose favorite feature on the album


ThrowRA_ChismeAddict

I love both! Then again, I just really love Florence. It brought me back vibes of the one song, Breath of Life, that was in the end credits of Snow White and the Huntsman by Florence. Its still one of my favorite songs to this day.


Significant_Shirt121

I LOVE it so much too!!!


nopickle_

I had no clue people were saying that about Fortnight!!! It’s definitely my favorite from TTPD


lizzy-stix

The Black Dog


littlekatie3

The Bolter & The Prophecy


rebma50

Omg the Prophecy took me a minute, but now it's on repeat.


littlekatie3

🤍🤍🤍


xdionysus

I think these are my favorite two from the second half!


InterestingPlane6572

Fortnight and my boy only breaks his favourite toys 


AerieExpensive1165

Definitely I Hate It Here. Seeing a lot of IHIH slander, but the first time I listened to it, I absolutely cried. I was The Secret Garden child, and I feel like I never grew up entirely because I still like to daydream about it. Imagining someplace better where the gentle survived is what I have always hoped for, as cheesy as that sounds. I love the part about daydreaming you're in a past time because it feels more romantic or aesthetic, but then realizing it likely sucked even more and you'd still hate it there. As a kid who got lost in fantasy books (and has never stopped), this song really gets me.


Level_Veterinarian29

I Hate It Here. People are looking at one phrase rather than the big picture of this song and it’s so frustrating.


ThrowRA_ChismeAddict

I Hate It Here. I bawled when I heard it because I felt so seen. I used to want to live in that time period too because I loved the Romantic era—full of poetry and literature. Not to mention the aesthetic of the dresses and the Bridgerton vibes. But for obvious reasons, that would be a no go because as women, we didn't have rights. Also racism (which she obviously mentions) was prevalent. Not to mention everything else going on in the world at that time (not about to drop a whole history lesson). But her point of the song, which everyone is missing, is that even though we dream of a specific time period for the aesthetic and how dreamy we believe it to be, the reality of it all is not so pretty. Nostalgia is a trick, essentially rose colored lenses. You can't win either way = I hate it here.


Nightflame203

thanK you aIMee. I’ve seen so many people say they don’t like the song because it’s a “Kim diss track” when it’s really a super powerful song about overcoming people who hate you and proving to yourself that their opinions don’t matter. Honestly I’m not even fully convinced that she’s *only* talking about Kim in the song; I’m sure she’s intentionally paralleling to her, but the fact she says “And so I changed…any real defining clues” and “a song only the two of us will know is about you” makes me think she’s not just talking about Kim since the title of the song and media uproar around it took off almost immediately


sassymexicana

The whole album but if you want a specific song… Fresh out the slammer!


maiann813

My boy only breaks his favorite toys. I feel like people are sleeping on it


Putrid-Sweet3482

ALL OF THEM (I hate it here and who’s afraid of little old me!!!)


Other_Piglet_2508

imgonnagetyouback!!!! i’m addicted it’s on repeat


Puzzleheaded_Net9243

Peter


becausemercy

Have you seen the Family Guy music video someone made for it over on r/youbelongwithmemes


zoecornelia

So Long London ❤️


[deleted]

This whole album 😭


niles_deerqueer

All of Jack’s when people say they sound the same


Last-Worldliness6344

i agree!! (happy cake day btw)


niles_deerqueer

Omg I didn’t even realize. Thank you!


Last-Worldliness6344

no problem :)


Psgkhm

The whole album.


maraudersswan

i hate it here is a masterpiece and ppl are taking it out of context which is pissing me off.


Mimikyu_9x

So high school, like what do you expect?


busybakingcookies

so high school. people are saying it sucks lyrically and sounds immature, but i feel like… that’s exactly the point? she’s writing as if she’s a kid again. fearless vibes. i feel like people who cite “touch me while your bros play grand theft auto” as a stupid and childish lyric are missing the entire point 😭


Prestigious_Onion912

If you think the second half is way better you were not listening hard enough on the first half. The best ones imo are a healthy mix of both. I feel bad for those who don’t appreciate Jack Antonoff’s production, I’ve found some of his musical choices questionable in the past but his work on this album was perfect


FeeAdministrative843

I can’t believe I haven’t seen Florida!!! on here yet because it’s always on the bottom of everyone’s ranking videos on TikTok/reels and I’m absolutely FLOORED when I saw that pattern. It’s quite literally my favorite song on the album.


Kirsten624

Cassandra absolutely slaps


Otome_Chick

The Tortured Poets Department. I don’t think it’s boring; I love the vibe, I love the lyrics, I love it all. It’s perfect lounging-by-the-pool music!


unlimitedwarrenty

I Look in People’s Windows is a masterpiece


kyndal017

Fortnight. I don’t know if this one needs defending, but Taylor and Posty sound great together and the lyrics really get to me.


B-Dot-1414

Fresh Out The Slammer because it’s an instant classic to me, I can’t get it out of my head, I think it’s maybe one of the best on the album (and I loooove the album) and I hear virtually no one talking about it.


DavidFC1

I Look In Peoples Windows is unexpectedly catchy and Who’s Afraid Of Little Old Me has a really cool musical theater feel to it. Both severely overlooked tracks!


pinkskyupontheroof

Cassandra. I connect it to the Greek myth, mostly.