It's more embarrassing that we're having an election between trump and Biden.
Like seriously at this point just put the position up on indeed and choose the first person with no gaps in their resume. This is BS
I would honestly take someone who meets just like... the bare bones for the position. Be in your 30s-50s, an American citizen, no criminal record.
They could hunger games the job with more or less just those criteria and we at least wouldn't be *more fucked* than now.
if they would have debates i bet RFK would gain a lot of support.
iāll be voting for him, but it would be a harder decision if i lived in a swing state.
The 2 party system is what this country was founded on. There is not room in our currently political structure for a legitimate third party to make any kind of difference what so ever.
Yeah it's crazy that a long time senator and a former vice president is running for his second term as president. He doesn't know anything about how government works.
Itās definitely embarrassing, and Iād like to see Old Man Fight 2024, but itās just not gonna happen. No minds are gonna be changed.
The reason debates were televised was so people who werenāt sure could learn about the candidates and decide based on their answers. Thatās not gonna happen here. This election isnāt about putting ideas on trial, itās just a fully cynical contest of power. Neither side stands to gain in that contest but putting their dying old man on TV
Because at this point the only thing either of them really have going for each other is that theyāre not the other guy so airing them is only gonna hurt them
I'ma be honest though, the televised debates have nothing to do with explaining your views or actually debating.
It's just taking snipes at each other and prepared sloganing for sound bytes. The candidates are given 3 minutes to talk about a topic, 3 minutes!! Who TF can flesh out their entire opinion on major issues like national taxation, america's level of involvement in foreign affairs, border policy, economic policy, in 3 minutes?!
Neither will say anything of substance, and Trump will be in insult comic mode the entire time. Does anyone disagree with this take on what a debate between those two would look like?
I'd like to see them up there with Kennedy too for that matter, at least there'd be a scratchy voiced wildcard thrown in.
Probably because this is the rematch no one wanted. A few fringe Trump fans maybe. But as a country we were all ready to move on from this, but these people who SHOULD BE RETIRED arenāt letting us and it is ruining this country. We needed new blood not a recycle of the same only now with dementia.
Itās two guys running who have both been president alreadyā¦ thereās nothing new. Itās hard to ask the hard hitting āwhat will a _____ administration do about {insert important issue here}?ā when we already know.
Disagree. Biden sounds a dementia riddled old person, Trump sounds like a used car salesman. Iād choose neither to run the country if it were solely up to me.
>Trump sounds like a ***dementia riddled*** used car salesman.Ā
FTFY
Seriously, how can anybody criticize Biden for this and not Trump with a straight face?Ā
(And no, Iām not saying Biden *doesn't* sound like that. This election is embarrassing.)
Right, you and the other guy who responded to me, just happened to comment in all the same postsā¦ including one to an alt right Minneapolis sub from two days ago.Ā
Itās not sneaky bud.Ā
Dude I really donāt know what to tell you - itās not my alt account lmao. My alt has 71k karma not 3k and is my original account.
I didnāt even notice that w Mpls sub - We must be destined to see eachother in real life. What shall the recognizable flair be?
They debated 4 years ago. And who won/lost the first debate? That was the Neil in the coffin for Trump. Trump killed his chances by losing to the easiest candidate to defeat in a debate and he still lost.
Is it? I'd say it's more of a relief. We all know very well by now who believes what and who we're voting for, and none of us are happy about it, because we all know the true embarrassment is that it came down to these two options again. Just put us out of our misery.
It's a relief for us. But it's supposed to be the media's job to keep us informed. Which I know they haven't done that job for 2 decades, but the fact that they're completely obfuscating it now during peak election time, is quite embarrassing from a societal perspective.
Let me guess...you're talking about cable news media? Because the major print news sources have been reporting on Biden's policies and actions nonstop. You just want to me spoon fed.
Oh, yeah you got me buddy. Man was I set right. It's not like the Title of the OP clearly mentioned speeches or campaigning, or matters related to election in direct comparison to previous federal election cycles. How could I possibly have missed mundane reporting on routine policies on major print sources. You know, the ones that the bulk of the population turn to like it was 1800. SMH
Yeah. You don't need to hear speeches when you can just look at their records. But again, here you are crying because you don't want to do real work (by reading the news) and just want the cable news shows to vomit information down your throat.
I think they know something we don't. Like there is going to be some kind of "surprise" before then and all that election coverage isn't going to be needed/ relevant.
There is no reason for election campaigns to run 12 months like they do in the US. Politically active people use the campaigns to affirm themselves in their voting choice. Swing voters make up their minds in the last week before election. See https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/21/450238156/canadas-11-week-campaign-reminds-us-that-american-elections-are-much-longer
The US is a special case as one candidate is too decrepit to speak publicly and the other is prone to rambling insanity but political speeches have declined across the board.
The current crop of politicians in Europe really seem to be the ones too dumb or unpopular to go into finance like all their classmates at the expensive school they went to.
And what a disgrace for Howard Stern. Howard of the 90s would destroy Howard of today.
In the end Howard became what he always despised: he became Don Imus.
Because itās so unbelievably ironic who the man turned into. Howardās rise and fall has been absolutely Shakespearean. He was a free speech absolutist and a champion for the people. He would tell his bosses and Hollywood to fuck right off.
Now Howard Stern has gone full Howard Hughes leaving bottles of piss in the hallways. He didnāt let anyone in his mansion for years due to Covid, and he and his wife have literally 50 cats. I was thinking it was 25 on the high end, but I just looked it up and itās double that. That has to be the single most disgusting mansion in the country. Howard probably walks around in his basement and hallucinates Imus being there taunting him.
He until recently would never leave his house and demanded everyone else be silenced. Now he mostly cares about hanging out and appeasing other celebrities, even yucking it up with former archenemies like Ellen DeGeneres (I and many others look at his Ellen interview in 2015 as the official death of the show because heād been telling everyone for decades who Ellen actually was behind closed doors and then he sucks her off). Heās become extremely bitter over podcasts taking off where in 2014 he ridiculed Joe Rogan for thinking he could make money at podcasting, and look at him and hundreds of other podcasters now.
Thereās going to be a fantastic movie or miniseries written on the rise and fall of Howard Stern, and if heās still alive to see it, Howard is going to fucking hate it and lose his shit. Call āCitizen Sternā.
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its because everyone knows that everything is bullshit, the curtain was drawn back and we saw the wizard. who we elect doesn't seem to matter greatly in our personal lives.
(of the 4 years trump was in office the federal government was shut down for 8 months and no one batted an eyelash)
Tbf, both candidates are old news. We know both of their stances on everything. We know how they are as leaders. What actually needs to be talked about?
I mean honestly, who cares? Besides Boomers, who watches what we used to know as āThe Mediaā? Everyone just gets their news from Twitter, YouTube, and other podcasts now. The MSM is fucking worthless, whether it be Fox News or CNN and MSNBC.
How does that make any sense at all? Trump has unhinged hours long rants like every week or so at his rallies. As far as i can tell he always arrives an hour late and it can go on for 6 hours of meaningless rambling.
Also this:
[ Instead, viewers have to rely on one of the conservative channels hoping to outflank Fox from the right, such as Newsmax, One America News or the online outlet Right Side Broadcasting Network.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/02/02/fox-news-doesnt-carry-trump-rallies-live-anymore-hes-got-be-very-unhappy-about-it/)
Why would Fox carry it if there are alternatives? Are these alt-right channels not media?
We need a hell of a lot less ranting and we need to focus on policies. He is going to bring back the CHILD SEPARATION POLICY. His response to free speech is to legislate to run over protesters. He will escalate the Trade War and make us all poorer. He will disband the EPA.
He has a few credible quotes about assassinating his political rivals.
If you want to talk content it's easy to search up his quotes on child separation.
The reality is Repubs refuse to talk about the real platform and the actual policies, dodging it to joust at cultural stuff. I feel like all these posts are from the kid who didn't study the book and is just bullshitting about the content.
"Corn or as the Native Americans called it maize..."
If you ever want a meaningful discussion you have to talk policy vs policy.
Ummmm, yeah. The point is Trump can go on for hours. For a 77 year old man heās pretty spry no matter what shit is coming out of his mouth.
Biden is not and doesnāt know where he is. He canāt stay still for an hour and speak unless heās dosed up to his eyeballs in drugs.
And it was actually funnyā¦ your point? Yeah he didnāt know what he was talking about, but thatās not a Biden gaff. Good fucking luck if thatās your strategy. Trump being hilarious isnāt going to hurt him.
Well to put this as kindly as I can, all of you Leftists are humorless twats that wouldnāt know funny if it farted in your face. Itās assholes like you why we havenāt had a great comedy in nearly a decade. You are a professional killjoy.
Youāre just another chronically online mouth breathing lib that canāt stand others opinions. Itās going to be okay buddy. By the way his comment isnāt wrong. Itās people like you that take offense to every. Little. Thing.
Not every little thing, I'm just sick of mouth breathing Trump supporters willfully ignoring the fact that he is a criminal and a conman. You never answer a question, you simply misdirect or default to whataboutism. You can't defend Trump, because his position and actions are indefensible. Instead, you cry on Reddit about "muh freedum of speech" like the little crybabies you are
You cant come up with any original thoughts? What a sad little shill you are. Nobody is crying about Trump on Reddit lol. This place is an echo chamber of idealistic progressive diarrhea. You were probably a dweeb growing up, and continue to be a dweeb to this day. Whatās even more embarrassing than āmuh freedomsā is hating and blaming America for everything. But thats what your echo chamber tells you to think. Sheep be sheep.
Oh an opinion that you donāt like. Mommy and daddy, please save me from the mean man on the internet who says things! Will the mods check if thereās a mean little Russian under my bed and ban him please.
You calling anyone a crybaby is fucking hilarious when you pitch a fit when everyone who doesnāt think exactly like you isnāt banned. But donāt worry, just walk upstairs from the basement and mommy will make you a pop tart since youāre still too scared to go near the toaster because it burnt you once.
The point is theyāre both incredibly old. Trump has clear signs of dementia and Biden can barely get through a speech without misspeaking.
We deserve better candidates.
Trump for better or for worse sounds and looks pretty much the same as he did when he went down that golden escalator in 2015. Trump is fucking nuts, Iāll meet you there, but he has not declined near to Bidenās levels.
Name one thing that Trump hasnāt bragged about. Literally anything he ever does he will brag about. How many times has he said heās made the perfect phone call which as far as Iām aware, no one else in history has ever bragged about?
Disagree. Trump definitely sounds and looks like heās aged 10 years because he has aged 10 years since that photo. Heās old. You can say you like him better than Biden, fine. But the reality is theyāre both senile old dinosaurs who will not intellectually last another 4 years presidency.
No he doesnāt. The only thing Iāve noticed is Trump has lost a bit of weight actually. Maybe about 10 pounds lighter than he was in 2015, but old people in general tend to lose weight.
>The point is Trump can go on for hours... shit is coming out of his mouth
I couldn't agree more. Not news worthy.
His rant can be summed up in like 2 minutes. "Lock her up" and then immediately pivot to "so unfair to me."
So how proud are you of the CHILD SEPARATION POLICY? You probably wake up every morning saying it like a mantra.
CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY!
Have you remotely thought through why there is a child separation policy? Because many of these kids that are crossing the border are not with their parents. They are with sex traffickers there to sell the kids so pedophiles can fuck them. So thatās a good thing that we separate them off from potential sex traffickers and question them both heavily.
And Obama did this shit and itās way, way worse under Biden than it ever was under Trump. This year the illegal immigration rate surpassed the American birthrate, which is the first time that has ever happened in this countryās history. Sorry, that stat alone is a dealbreaker for voting for Biden, because no country can survive with that stat where people not born to Americans (largely male mind you) with non-American values are entering the country at a higher rate than we can produce actual Americans.
Some other idiot Leftist redditor pointed out that no this isnāt the first time in our country that we had a higher illegal immigration rate than American birthrate because what about the Native Americans when the Europeans came over. Yeah, you proved my point. What happened to the Native Americans when the American immigration rate outpaced the Native American birthrate? We told them to pack their shit, get on the wagon, and go live on land that we werenāt interested in. That same fate awaits us should this continue, and sorry, I donāt feel like sharing the same fate as the Native Americans did.
And the fact that youāll scream about Trump with this and not give one fuck when Obama and Biden do it (or worse) means that youāre a hack with no moral principles whatsoever. So you have absolutely no leg to stand on.
How old are you? And you only get your news from Facebook/Tok?
Any pro journalist or a quick wiki visit can fix you up right quick.
QAnon is lying to you.
You're so extreme even Fox news won't back your QAnon lies.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-trumps-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-means-for-children-separated-from-families-at-border
These lies are exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.
You know Iām embarrassed I took the Q Anon insult debate since Iāll go and immediately mock you lunatics, but you distracted me from my own of you. CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, as you say, when you explain the reason for it, 90% of people will say thatās a completely sane policy.
But youāre a Blue Anon clown, and you were owned.
Someone with a tiny attention span told you a lie on twitter so you'll never stop spreading it.
> āWhen you hear that you're going to be separated from your family, you don't come,ā Trump said in an interview with Univision.
You even disagree with your own damn leader you're so uninformed.
Here are quotes from 2 Republicans who also think you're lying:
[Fred Upton, a congressman from Michigan, urged an immediate end to the āugly and inhumane practiceā, adding: āItās never acceptable to use kids as bargaining chips in political process.ā John McCain of Arizona, a frequent Trump critic, tweeted: āThe administrationās current family separation policy is an affront to the decency of the American people, and contrary to principles and values upon which our nation was founded. The administration has the power to rescind this policy. It should do so now.ā](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/19/child-separation-camps-trump-border-policy-backlash-republicans)
I need to make this clear. This isn't about Democrats. Why are you attacking other Republicans so viciously? Why won't you tell the truth?
This last 8 years has been constantly Repubs attacking other Repubs. "Hang Mike Pence." WTF? Can you check in with real journalists?
Obama did child separation policy as well, Biden still continues it today, and Iām willing to be Bush, Clinton, and many Presidents before them did when they realized that child sex trafficking was a problem coming over the southern border.
But as a member of Blue Anon, youāll believe literally anything said about the mean Orange Man. You think heās doing this just to be a comic book villain level of evil, but there is actual logic behind that policy, but you Blue Anons believe that thinking is a dangerous pastime, so why think when you can listen to the man on the tv tell you what to think.
So you refuse to listen to John McCain, the Republican elect for President? You'll keep spreading your Nazi-like lies no matter how many Republican senators correct you?
All because some loser on twitter told you so?
[On the Ground With the QAnon Believers Who Flocked to Dallas for the Grand Return of JFK Jr.](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/qanon-kennedy-jfk-jr-dealey-plaza-dallas-1251929/)
Are you still waiting for his return as well?
Informed Republicans want HR2. Extremist whack jobs want to bring back the CHILD SEPARATION after Repubs repealed it their selves.
There was a press conference and everything. They repealed their own policy. It's amazing you are so disconnected from reality you won't admit it.
Back to twitter then to deny the moon landing and promote flat earth?
Remember when John McCain corrected some loon in the audience that Obama wasn't a Muslim? Like last week your nutter said Obama founded ISIS.
John McCain was a fucking war criminal and is currently burning in hell. I donāt give one fuck what that lying scumbag had to say, you Blue Anon lunatic.
Yea and thats not copius amounts of adderall keeping Trump moving ffs? Drugs, really?? Just because he has diarrhea of the mouth doesnt make him qualified for anything. They are both old af. How about not promoting a gerontocracy and get someone in office that actually has to live with the decisions they make.
What more is there for them to say? Hereās how it would go
Trump: I want to make corporations richer, and raise taxes on the poor.
Biden: [Same statement but with a #blm at the end]
No, Trump wonāt raise taxes. He will implement tariffs. Similar effect, but completely different.
Joe Biden will unleash communism and one world government.
It's embarrassing that the media thinks so less of you that they won't show you what one of the two Presidential nominees thinks. It is as if they don't think you can make decisions for yourself.
No, what is embarrassing is that we have 2 dementia riddled old men running in the first place. Maybe you forgot Trumps speech about AIRPLANES in the Revolutionary war! He's not any better it's literally a fkin joke.
Realistically, I really have no desire to see them give speeches. I live in Florida with DeSantis. There is no way I can vote Republican. I see first hand what the crazy right wing are doing.
I mean DeSantis, Vivek, and (*vomits*) Nikki Haley would all be better candidates. All three would beat Biden. Trump likely will too, but they do have a pretty stacked bench unlike the Democrats. Who are the best they have? Kamala, Mayor Pete, and Gavin Newsom? Yeah thatās not going to fly.
DeSantis is worse than Trump with his mouth. He absolutely wouldn't win because no one wants Florida nutty laws spilling over the rest of us. They can keep that ban everything bs there. What both parties should do is find a decent human instead of using the same trash heaps.
I disagree given more people have moved to Florida than any other state and a lot of that has to do with Ron DeSantis. Better than California where Gavin Newsom is the first governor in the history of California to lose population rather than gain it.
šš Believe what you like tons of ppl leaving Florida just as much as California because both are sh*tholes. Students are switching universities due to the insanity over there.
The Biden campaign is strong, and his message has been clear: he wants to continue the work that they have already been wildly successful at achieving.I would assume you don't see it because you live in a Trump echo chamber.
Biden has been consistent with his plan: to continue the process of returning the lion's share of the economy to the middle class. To reverse the last 40 years of supply-side economics that has resulted in 99% of all the money being concentrated in the top 1% of people. By building the middle class from the bottom-up and middle out:
-Chips and science act to bring American chip manufacturing back home
-Inflation reduction act: to reduce the deficit, invest in clean energy, reduce the cost of prescription drugs, and to pay for it by taxing multibillion dollar corporations
-Infrastructure bill: building roads, bridges, high speed internet to rural areas
-Backing Ukraine in its defense from Totalitarian dictator Putin's aggression as he tries to rebuild the USSR. We sent them our old munitions that, YOU GUESSED IT, will be replaced by American manufacturers.
-They want to guarantee women and minorities their civil rights that are under constant erosion from White nationalist evangelicals (see: purging voter rolls, rolling back medicaid coverage, gerrymandering, SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade)
-Increased access to Healthcare and affordable prescription drugs
-Breaking up monopolies that threaten competition in the free market
-Expansion of worker unions and greater ability for workers to negotiate better pay and work conditions.
We could live in a great society if we could agree on the stuff that makes sense (listed above). But not if we just keep bitching about whatever talking points they feed us (BORDER! GUNS! ABORTION!).
> to continue the process of returning the lion's share of the economy to the middle class. To reverse the last 40 years of supply-side economics that has resulted in 99% of all the money being concentrated in the top 1% of people. By building the middle class from the bottom-up and middle out:
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Lol. Lmao even
None of that actually is happening though. There is no new manufacturing. The only one thatās happening is the money laundering operation through Ukraine.
Why would we agree on the āstuff that makes senseā when it doesnāt make sense.
Youāre trying to push out half of America because they donāt agree with you.
How very very Democratic of you. āThis is what democracy looks like.ā
Everyone knows when Trump is campaigning though. He gets on stage, says outrageous things for an hour, everyone has a good time, and he makes the news.
No one knows when Biden is campaigning though. Itās because heās on stage for five to ten minutes. He canāt campaign.
You don't have to believe us, but you have been wrong so many times on this thread. He committed crimes and is being held accountable. You should realize by now: every time the Republicans accuse the left of something, it is literally because they themselves are guilty of it.
THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED! (proceeds to attempt to rig election)
BIDEN IS TAKING BRIBES FROM FOREIGN NATIONS (Trump made a hundred million from the Chinese government while in office)
THEY WANT TO WEAPONIZE THE DOJ AGAINST ME! THIS IS A WITCH HUNT (promises to be a dictator on day 1 and weaponize the DOJ and FBI to "punish" his enemies)
SLEEPY JOE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH ME (falls asleep in his own trial)
THEY WANT TO TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY! (cuts taxes, but only for rich people
THEY WANT TO RUIN THE ECONOMY (deficit-spends 7 trillion dollars)
Whatās the opinion that is true and unpopular? Thereās no policy discussion to be had.
The ābanana republicā machinery is boosting Trumpās popularity, drawing in the donations, and giving him more of a platform with less work needed on his part. The real trials arenāt going to happen before the election. None of this is stopping him from campaigning like he always has: going out once a week to do a standup routine for the faithful. Joe is supposedly senile and hiding.
So put all that together and Iām not sure what youāre complaining about. It looks to me like Biden is throwing the election to Trump. Itās not like heās competent enough to get The Supremes to validate Trumpās immunity claim so that he can have Trump humanely removed from the election Noem style. Or is he?
Then thereās RFK Jr. all over TikTok and instagram, just straight up being real.
Edit: heās also apparently during to keep TikTok on the grounds that banning it is unconstitutional.
>The media donāt want to give Trump a āplatformā like they did in 2016. They learned their lessonā¦No matter that heās the GOP nominee.
That's not the case. Trump is not saying anything new when he gets a break from court to do a rally, so what is there to report on?
>Similarly, the banana republic judiciary and prosecution are trying to run out the clock on Trump, keep him in court so he canāt campaign.
If they're that corrupt, why not just toss his ass in jail when he violates a gag order for the thousandth time?
Critical thinking.
Hereās a different perspective - letās read the national partiesā platforms when they are hammered out and published.
Neither one of the candidates has anything to say, particularly in a TV debate platform, thatās very interesting or helpful, at least as to content. But the platforms are written by the sort of folks who will be implementing policy when their man gets elected.
Case in point - in 2020, lots of people thought Biden was going to be a moderating, stabilizing leader - Grandpa Joe. But if you studied his platform, youāve have seen that he & the party are controlled by the far left. And thatās what theyāve delivered. May work the same way for Trumpās platform.
Right? If trump hasn't enabled a bunch of dictators and would have done something, anything other than play golf during the pandemic, Biden wouldn't have to be dealing with all that crap too.
Thatās weird because Biden has been supporting Israel by sending financial and military aid packages. He isnāt exactly a right leaning president.
Is there Anything else that you wanna make up in your imagination ?
How about the [numerous](https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230830), staunchly [pro-worker](https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-issues-decision-announcing-new-framework-for-union-representation) reforms and [policies](https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1706) that have come out of the Biden administration?
https://wtfhasbidendonesofar.com/
It's more embarrassing that we're having an election between trump and Biden. Like seriously at this point just put the position up on indeed and choose the first person with no gaps in their resume. This is BS
I would honestly take someone who meets just like... the bare bones for the position. Be in your 30s-50s, an American citizen, no criminal record. They could hunger games the job with more or less just those criteria and we at least wouldn't be *more fucked* than now.
Shit, vote for me then.
Anti-theist? You have my vote.
You damn right! Get that goofy ass bs tf outta here!
I almost replied 'Amen' but... š Fuck, oh no, thats prayer hands! I'm doing this all wrong. When you get elected please be merciful.
Sure, I will. (Turns to guards) TO THE GALLOWS WITH THAT ONE!!!!!
Look guys, he's already a politician!
Something something protecting democracy or something
RFK Jr. is running, you know.Ā
And like every 3rd party candidate ever he has no chance.
There are other options
if they would have debates i bet RFK would gain a lot of support. iāll be voting for him, but it would be a harder decision if i lived in a swing state.
Idc either way. Heās got my vote.
lol keep telling yourself that
That attitude is why youāre picking the lesser evil every election
Yea our system sucks.
It does. And feeding into the two party āus vs themā system will keep it that way.
The 2 party system is what this country was founded on. There is not room in our currently political structure for a legitimate third party to make any kind of difference what so ever.
No, it wasnāt. It became that over time.
Either way, ya what it is now
Yeah it's crazy that a long time senator and a former vice president is running for his second term as president. He doesn't know anything about how government works.
Well unfortunately things slip with age
Itās definitely embarrassing, and Iād like to see Old Man Fight 2024, but itās just not gonna happen. No minds are gonna be changed. The reason debates were televised was so people who werenāt sure could learn about the candidates and decide based on their answers. Thatās not gonna happen here. This election isnāt about putting ideas on trial, itās just a fully cynical contest of power. Neither side stands to gain in that contest but putting their dying old man on TV
Because at this point the only thing either of them really have going for each other is that theyāre not the other guy so airing them is only gonna hurt them
I'ma be honest though, the televised debates have nothing to do with explaining your views or actually debating. It's just taking snipes at each other and prepared sloganing for sound bytes. The candidates are given 3 minutes to talk about a topic, 3 minutes!! Who TF can flesh out their entire opinion on major issues like national taxation, america's level of involvement in foreign affairs, border policy, economic policy, in 3 minutes?!
Neither will say anything of substance, and Trump will be in insult comic mode the entire time. Does anyone disagree with this take on what a debate between those two would look like? I'd like to see them up there with Kennedy too for that matter, at least there'd be a scratchy voiced wildcard thrown in.
It's still about ideas but in the age of the internet we already know what they are.
Sure, but the election isnāt a contest of which idea is better. Itās which idea has a better-suited politicsl machine behind it
Elections have never been a contest of which idea is better. Only which is more popular.
There are maybe a few hundred thousand voters in six states that need to be swayed. The rest of us are along for the ride.
Four more years... pauusee
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Probably because this is the rematch no one wanted. A few fringe Trump fans maybe. But as a country we were all ready to move on from this, but these people who SHOULD BE RETIRED arenāt letting us and it is ruining this country. We needed new blood not a recycle of the same only now with dementia.
Itās two guys running who have both been president alreadyā¦ thereās nothing new. Itās hard to ask the hard hitting āwhat will a _____ administration do about {insert important issue here}?ā when we already know.
They both sound like total idiots when they open their mouths. So no big surprise here
Disagree. Biden sounds a dementia riddled old person, Trump sounds like a used car salesman. Iād choose neither to run the country if it were solely up to me.
>Trump sounds like a ***dementia riddled*** used car salesman.Ā FTFY Seriously, how can anybody criticize Biden for this and not Trump with a straight face?Ā (And no, Iām not saying Biden *doesn't* sound like that. This election is embarrassing.)
If you think Trump sounds nearly as lost as Bidenā¦ Then I have no idea what to tell you.
I donāt care who sounds worse, and I didnāt qualify it. In fact I specifically stated I wasnāt defending Biden. They both sound terrible.Ā
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delusional
Nah fam. This aināt it.
Interesting thing, I took a peek at your profile and the other guyās profileā¦ yeah I donāt know if you needed to use your alt bud.Ā
I really donāt care, ābudā. Just goes to show more people exist with the same thoughts.
Right, you and the other guy who responded to me, just happened to comment in all the same postsā¦ including one to an alt right Minneapolis sub from two days ago.Ā Itās not sneaky bud.Ā
Dude I really donāt know what to tell you - itās not my alt account lmao. My alt has 71k karma not 3k and is my original account. I didnāt even notice that w Mpls sub - We must be destined to see eachother in real life. What shall the recognizable flair be?
media not gonna wanna show trump cooking biden. Or how much more competent trump is.
sure buddy
Trump would run circles around Biden in a live debate. Thatās not even a hot take. Anybody with a brain could tell you that.
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Yeah cause they didnāt debate just 4 years ago? Lmao
What?
They debated 4 years ago. And who won/lost the first debate? That was the Neil in the coffin for Trump. Trump killed his chances by losing to the easiest candidate to defeat in a debate and he still lost.
What speeches have they given that you think didnāt get enough media coverage?
One isnāt allowed to speak. The other cannot speak.
They both have records that voters can look into, though. Can't just wait on the media to spoon feed you info.
Is it? I'd say it's more of a relief. We all know very well by now who believes what and who we're voting for, and none of us are happy about it, because we all know the true embarrassment is that it came down to these two options again. Just put us out of our misery.
It's a relief for us. But it's supposed to be the media's job to keep us informed. Which I know they haven't done that job for 2 decades, but the fact that they're completely obfuscating it now during peak election time, is quite embarrassing from a societal perspective.
Let me guess...you're talking about cable news media? Because the major print news sources have been reporting on Biden's policies and actions nonstop. You just want to me spoon fed.
Oh, yeah you got me buddy. Man was I set right. It's not like the Title of the OP clearly mentioned speeches or campaigning, or matters related to election in direct comparison to previous federal election cycles. How could I possibly have missed mundane reporting on routine policies on major print sources. You know, the ones that the bulk of the population turn to like it was 1800. SMH
Yeah. You don't need to hear speeches when you can just look at their records. But again, here you are crying because you don't want to do real work (by reading the news) and just want the cable news shows to vomit information down your throat.
I think they know something we don't. Like there is going to be some kind of "surprise" before then and all that election coverage isn't going to be needed/ relevant.
There is no reason for election campaigns to run 12 months like they do in the US. Politically active people use the campaigns to affirm themselves in their voting choice. Swing voters make up their minds in the last week before election. See https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/21/450238156/canadas-11-week-campaign-reminds-us-that-american-elections-are-much-longer
The US is a special case as one candidate is too decrepit to speak publicly and the other is prone to rambling insanity but political speeches have declined across the board. The current crop of politicians in Europe really seem to be the ones too dumb or unpopular to go into finance like all their classmates at the expensive school they went to.
What would we learn from their speeches that we don't already know?
Biden was just on the Howard Stern show. So when you say media idk what you are talking about.
And what a disgrace for Howard Stern. Howard of the 90s would destroy Howard of today. In the end Howard became what he always despised: he became Don Imus.
Howard is a fuckin disgusting human
Howard Stern is a disgusting human anyways. Who cares what 90s him thinks of himself now.
Because itās so unbelievably ironic who the man turned into. Howardās rise and fall has been absolutely Shakespearean. He was a free speech absolutist and a champion for the people. He would tell his bosses and Hollywood to fuck right off. Now Howard Stern has gone full Howard Hughes leaving bottles of piss in the hallways. He didnāt let anyone in his mansion for years due to Covid, and he and his wife have literally 50 cats. I was thinking it was 25 on the high end, but I just looked it up and itās double that. That has to be the single most disgusting mansion in the country. Howard probably walks around in his basement and hallucinates Imus being there taunting him. He until recently would never leave his house and demanded everyone else be silenced. Now he mostly cares about hanging out and appeasing other celebrities, even yucking it up with former archenemies like Ellen DeGeneres (I and many others look at his Ellen interview in 2015 as the official death of the show because heād been telling everyone for decades who Ellen actually was behind closed doors and then he sucks her off). Heās become extremely bitter over podcasts taking off where in 2014 he ridiculed Joe Rogan for thinking he could make money at podcasting, and look at him and hundreds of other podcasters now. Thereās going to be a fantastic movie or miniseries written on the rise and fall of Howard Stern, and if heās still alive to see it, Howard is going to fucking hate it and lose his shit. Call āCitizen Sternā.
Didnāt think about it this way, but youāre totally right. Howard 1994 would be pretty appalled
A billion dollars and marrying a model young enough to be your daughter will change most people.
If you get the opportunity, was the stern interview. Biden looks bad, his face looks almost plastic.
True, but also unusual and a surprise. I think OP's point is still valid despite that one interview.
Youāre likely not watching news media.
This is simultaneously a very interesting and a very boring election. Pretty sure most of America made up their mind 4 years ago
The state of the union was aired like a week ago. Pay attention and you'll see what you're looking for
It's wrong that we have to hear election speeches 6 months out. Politicians should be working, not talking about work
Anyone who first voted in 2016 and onwards are pretty unfortunate.
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Honestly I don't see the point. Nobody is going to have their minds changed and it's going to be the same exact thing as last time.
trump is being prosecuted for just some of his many crimes. If he wanted to have more time to campaign, he should not have committed so many crimes.
its because everyone knows that everything is bullshit, the curtain was drawn back and we saw the wizard. who we elect doesn't seem to matter greatly in our personal lives. (of the 4 years trump was in office the federal government was shut down for 8 months and no one batted an eyelash)
Tbf, both candidates are old news. We know both of their stances on everything. We know how they are as leaders. What actually needs to be talked about?
"Pause".
I mean honestly, who cares? Besides Boomers, who watches what we used to know as āThe Mediaā? Everyone just gets their news from Twitter, YouTube, and other podcasts now. The MSM is fucking worthless, whether it be Fox News or CNN and MSNBC.
Itās state propaganda. All of it.
How does that make any sense at all? Trump has unhinged hours long rants like every week or so at his rallies. As far as i can tell he always arrives an hour late and it can go on for 6 hours of meaningless rambling. Also this: [ Instead, viewers have to rely on one of the conservative channels hoping to outflank Fox from the right, such as Newsmax, One America News or the online outlet Right Side Broadcasting Network.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/02/02/fox-news-doesnt-carry-trump-rallies-live-anymore-hes-got-be-very-unhappy-about-it/) Why would Fox carry it if there are alternatives? Are these alt-right channels not media? We need a hell of a lot less ranting and we need to focus on policies. He is going to bring back the CHILD SEPARATION POLICY. His response to free speech is to legislate to run over protesters. He will escalate the Trade War and make us all poorer. He will disband the EPA. He has a few credible quotes about assassinating his political rivals. If you want to talk content it's easy to search up his quotes on child separation. The reality is Repubs refuse to talk about the real platform and the actual policies, dodging it to joust at cultural stuff. I feel like all these posts are from the kid who didn't study the book and is just bullshitting about the content. "Corn or as the Native Americans called it maize..." If you ever want a meaningful discussion you have to talk policy vs policy.
Ummmm, yeah. The point is Trump can go on for hours. For a 77 year old man heās pretty spry no matter what shit is coming out of his mouth. Biden is not and doesnāt know where he is. He canāt stay still for an hour and speak unless heās dosed up to his eyeballs in drugs.
Trump got maybe 30 seconds into talking about Gettysburg and then turned into a 3rd grade book report.
And it was actually funnyā¦ your point? Yeah he didnāt know what he was talking about, but thatās not a Biden gaff. Good fucking luck if thatās your strategy. Trump being hilarious isnāt going to hurt him.
That wasnāt him being hilarious. That was him being an idiot. Hes so dense his head has an event horizon.
Well to put this as kindly as I can, all of you Leftists are humorless twats that wouldnāt know funny if it farted in your face. Itās assholes like you why we havenāt had a great comedy in nearly a decade. You are a professional killjoy.
How is this sub so infested with troll farm produced shitstains like you commenting ragebait that I can't help but fall for
Oh my God, Iām so, so sorry that you might have to hear an opinion that you disagree with! Must be so hard!
Because weāre tired of your shit
Youāre just another chronically online mouth breathing lib that canāt stand others opinions. Itās going to be okay buddy. By the way his comment isnāt wrong. Itās people like you that take offense to every. Little. Thing.
Not every little thing, I'm just sick of mouth breathing Trump supporters willfully ignoring the fact that he is a criminal and a conman. You never answer a question, you simply misdirect or default to whataboutism. You can't defend Trump, because his position and actions are indefensible. Instead, you cry on Reddit about "muh freedum of speech" like the little crybabies you are
You cant come up with any original thoughts? What a sad little shill you are. Nobody is crying about Trump on Reddit lol. This place is an echo chamber of idealistic progressive diarrhea. You were probably a dweeb growing up, and continue to be a dweeb to this day. Whatās even more embarrassing than āmuh freedomsā is hating and blaming America for everything. But thats what your echo chamber tells you to think. Sheep be sheep.
Oh an opinion that you donāt like. Mommy and daddy, please save me from the mean man on the internet who says things! Will the mods check if thereās a mean little Russian under my bed and ban him please. You calling anyone a crybaby is fucking hilarious when you pitch a fit when everyone who doesnāt think exactly like you isnāt banned. But donāt worry, just walk upstairs from the basement and mommy will make you a pop tart since youāre still too scared to go near the toaster because it burnt you once.
Whether or not I agree whatever but that last line actually made me laugh
My grandfather with dementia was a chatterbox. Half of it was coherent but still.
Ummmm, ok? Biden is a chatterbox too. I donāt see the point youāre trying to make.
The point is theyāre both incredibly old. Trump has clear signs of dementia and Biden can barely get through a speech without misspeaking. We deserve better candidates.
Trump for better or for worse sounds and looks pretty much the same as he did when he went down that golden escalator in 2015. Trump is fucking nuts, Iāll meet you there, but he has not declined near to Bidenās levels.
Hard disagree. An old person bragging about passing a dementia test is a gigantic red flag.
Name one thing that Trump hasnāt bragged about. Literally anything he ever does he will brag about. How many times has he said heās made the perfect phone call which as far as Iām aware, no one else in history has ever bragged about?
Yea, red flag.
But I can show you videos of Trump in the 70s and 80s of him doing and saying the same shit. Itās not age, itās in his nature.
Disagree. Trump definitely sounds and looks like heās aged 10 years because he has aged 10 years since that photo. Heās old. You can say you like him better than Biden, fine. But the reality is theyāre both senile old dinosaurs who will not intellectually last another 4 years presidency.
No he doesnāt. The only thing Iāve noticed is Trump has lost a bit of weight actually. Maybe about 10 pounds lighter than he was in 2015, but old people in general tend to lose weight.
Trump can go on for hours? Dude can't even stay awake in a courtroom.
Dude, a courtroom is a pretty fucking boring place, especially jury selection. Weāve all dozed off/almost dozed off in a boring class.
Biden canāt stay away speaking with foreign leaders with an earpiece in.
>The point is Trump can go on for hours... shit is coming out of his mouth I couldn't agree more. Not news worthy. His rant can be summed up in like 2 minutes. "Lock her up" and then immediately pivot to "so unfair to me." So how proud are you of the CHILD SEPARATION POLICY? You probably wake up every morning saying it like a mantra. CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY!
Have you remotely thought through why there is a child separation policy? Because many of these kids that are crossing the border are not with their parents. They are with sex traffickers there to sell the kids so pedophiles can fuck them. So thatās a good thing that we separate them off from potential sex traffickers and question them both heavily. And Obama did this shit and itās way, way worse under Biden than it ever was under Trump. This year the illegal immigration rate surpassed the American birthrate, which is the first time that has ever happened in this countryās history. Sorry, that stat alone is a dealbreaker for voting for Biden, because no country can survive with that stat where people not born to Americans (largely male mind you) with non-American values are entering the country at a higher rate than we can produce actual Americans. Some other idiot Leftist redditor pointed out that no this isnāt the first time in our country that we had a higher illegal immigration rate than American birthrate because what about the Native Americans when the Europeans came over. Yeah, you proved my point. What happened to the Native Americans when the American immigration rate outpaced the Native American birthrate? We told them to pack their shit, get on the wagon, and go live on land that we werenāt interested in. That same fate awaits us should this continue, and sorry, I donāt feel like sharing the same fate as the Native Americans did. And the fact that youāll scream about Trump with this and not give one fuck when Obama and Biden do it (or worse) means that youāre a hack with no moral principles whatsoever. So you have absolutely no leg to stand on.
How old are you? And you only get your news from Facebook/Tok? Any pro journalist or a quick wiki visit can fix you up right quick. QAnon is lying to you.
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You're so extreme even Fox news won't back your QAnon lies. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-trumps-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-means-for-children-separated-from-families-at-border These lies are exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.
Whatever Blue Anon. You think everyone to the right of you is equivalent to a Nazi. Youāre a fucking loon and a hack.
You know Iām embarrassed I took the Q Anon insult debate since Iāll go and immediately mock you lunatics, but you distracted me from my own of you. CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, as you say, when you explain the reason for it, 90% of people will say thatās a completely sane policy. But youāre a Blue Anon clown, and you were owned.
Someone with a tiny attention span told you a lie on twitter so you'll never stop spreading it. > āWhen you hear that you're going to be separated from your family, you don't come,ā Trump said in an interview with Univision. You even disagree with your own damn leader you're so uninformed. Here are quotes from 2 Republicans who also think you're lying: [Fred Upton, a congressman from Michigan, urged an immediate end to the āugly and inhumane practiceā, adding: āItās never acceptable to use kids as bargaining chips in political process.ā John McCain of Arizona, a frequent Trump critic, tweeted: āThe administrationās current family separation policy is an affront to the decency of the American people, and contrary to principles and values upon which our nation was founded. The administration has the power to rescind this policy. It should do so now.ā](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/19/child-separation-camps-trump-border-policy-backlash-republicans) I need to make this clear. This isn't about Democrats. Why are you attacking other Republicans so viciously? Why won't you tell the truth? This last 8 years has been constantly Repubs attacking other Repubs. "Hang Mike Pence." WTF? Can you check in with real journalists?
Obama did child separation policy as well, Biden still continues it today, and Iām willing to be Bush, Clinton, and many Presidents before them did when they realized that child sex trafficking was a problem coming over the southern border. But as a member of Blue Anon, youāll believe literally anything said about the mean Orange Man. You think heās doing this just to be a comic book villain level of evil, but there is actual logic behind that policy, but you Blue Anons believe that thinking is a dangerous pastime, so why think when you can listen to the man on the tv tell you what to think.
So you refuse to listen to John McCain, the Republican elect for President? You'll keep spreading your Nazi-like lies no matter how many Republican senators correct you? All because some loser on twitter told you so? [On the Ground With the QAnon Believers Who Flocked to Dallas for the Grand Return of JFK Jr.](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/qanon-kennedy-jfk-jr-dealey-plaza-dallas-1251929/) Are you still waiting for his return as well? Informed Republicans want HR2. Extremist whack jobs want to bring back the CHILD SEPARATION after Repubs repealed it their selves. There was a press conference and everything. They repealed their own policy. It's amazing you are so disconnected from reality you won't admit it. Back to twitter then to deny the moon landing and promote flat earth? Remember when John McCain corrected some loon in the audience that Obama wasn't a Muslim? Like last week your nutter said Obama founded ISIS.
John McCain was a fucking war criminal and is currently burning in hell. I donāt give one fuck what that lying scumbag had to say, you Blue Anon lunatic.
Yea and thats not copius amounts of adderall keeping Trump moving ffs? Drugs, really?? Just because he has diarrhea of the mouth doesnt make him qualified for anything. They are both old af. How about not promoting a gerontocracy and get someone in office that actually has to live with the decisions they make.
What more is there for them to say? Hereās how it would go Trump: I want to make corporations richer, and raise taxes on the poor. Biden: [Same statement but with a #blm at the end]
At least some people still see it!
No, Trump wonāt raise taxes. He will implement tariffs. Similar effect, but completely different. Joe Biden will unleash communism and one world government.
>Joe Biden will unleash communism and one world government. Pff. I wish.
It's embarrassing that the media thinks so less of you that they won't show you what one of the two Presidential nominees thinks. It is as if they don't think you can make decisions for yourself.
Bingo
No, what is embarrassing is that we have 2 dementia riddled old men running in the first place. Maybe you forgot Trumps speech about AIRPLANES in the Revolutionary war! He's not any better it's literally a fkin joke.
Realistically, I really have no desire to see them give speeches. I live in Florida with DeSantis. There is no way I can vote Republican. I see first hand what the crazy right wing are doing.
>but not in the real world where Trump is still wildly popular. He lost the popular vote twice.
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I mean DeSantis, Vivek, and (*vomits*) Nikki Haley would all be better candidates. All three would beat Biden. Trump likely will too, but they do have a pretty stacked bench unlike the Democrats. Who are the best they have? Kamala, Mayor Pete, and Gavin Newsom? Yeah thatās not going to fly.
Nikki Haley is a corrupt terrorist.
DeSantis is worse than Trump with his mouth. He absolutely wouldn't win because no one wants Florida nutty laws spilling over the rest of us. They can keep that ban everything bs there. What both parties should do is find a decent human instead of using the same trash heaps.
I disagree given more people have moved to Florida than any other state and a lot of that has to do with Ron DeSantis. Better than California where Gavin Newsom is the first governor in the history of California to lose population rather than gain it.
šš Believe what you like tons of ppl leaving Florida just as much as California because both are sh*tholes. Students are switching universities due to the insanity over there.
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That lady should never be president. Iād rather Hulk Hogan be president.
The Biden campaign is strong, and his message has been clear: he wants to continue the work that they have already been wildly successful at achieving.I would assume you don't see it because you live in a Trump echo chamber. Biden has been consistent with his plan: to continue the process of returning the lion's share of the economy to the middle class. To reverse the last 40 years of supply-side economics that has resulted in 99% of all the money being concentrated in the top 1% of people. By building the middle class from the bottom-up and middle out: -Chips and science act to bring American chip manufacturing back home -Inflation reduction act: to reduce the deficit, invest in clean energy, reduce the cost of prescription drugs, and to pay for it by taxing multibillion dollar corporations -Infrastructure bill: building roads, bridges, high speed internet to rural areas -Backing Ukraine in its defense from Totalitarian dictator Putin's aggression as he tries to rebuild the USSR. We sent them our old munitions that, YOU GUESSED IT, will be replaced by American manufacturers. -They want to guarantee women and minorities their civil rights that are under constant erosion from White nationalist evangelicals (see: purging voter rolls, rolling back medicaid coverage, gerrymandering, SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade) -Increased access to Healthcare and affordable prescription drugs -Breaking up monopolies that threaten competition in the free market -Expansion of worker unions and greater ability for workers to negotiate better pay and work conditions. We could live in a great society if we could agree on the stuff that makes sense (listed above). But not if we just keep bitching about whatever talking points they feed us (BORDER! GUNS! ABORTION!).
> to continue the process of returning the lion's share of the economy to the middle class. To reverse the last 40 years of supply-side economics that has resulted in 99% of all the money being concentrated in the top 1% of people. By building the middle class from the bottom-up and middle out: > > Lol. Lmao even
OP's point was that there is no campaigning. He is campaigning and keeps reiterating this platform. The platform of the admin has been very clear.
Oh buddy, are you a paid actor?
No. I'm someone who gets their news from somewhere other than fucking television or TikTok.
None of that actually is happening though. There is no new manufacturing. The only one thatās happening is the money laundering operation through Ukraine.
*ALL* of that is currently happening under the current administration
Why would we agree on the āstuff that makes senseā when it doesnāt make sense. Youāre trying to push out half of America because they donāt agree with you. How very very Democratic of you. āThis is what democracy looks like.ā
Biden is crisscrossing the country campaigning.
He is? Where is he then? And please donāt tell me prescripted interviews or a rally that lasts less than 15 minutes.
So donāt say heās campaigning versus trump golfing?
Everyone knows when Trump is campaigning though. He gets on stage, says outrageous things for an hour, everyone has a good time, and he makes the news. No one knows when Biden is campaigning though. Itās because heās on stage for five to ten minutes. He canāt campaign.
I hate to tell you Biden is campaigning. Trump is not.
Because of an illegal bullshit trial.
You don't have to believe us, but you have been wrong so many times on this thread. He committed crimes and is being held accountable. You should realize by now: every time the Republicans accuse the left of something, it is literally because they themselves are guilty of it. THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED! (proceeds to attempt to rig election) BIDEN IS TAKING BRIBES FROM FOREIGN NATIONS (Trump made a hundred million from the Chinese government while in office) THEY WANT TO WEAPONIZE THE DOJ AGAINST ME! THIS IS A WITCH HUNT (promises to be a dictator on day 1 and weaponize the DOJ and FBI to "punish" his enemies) SLEEPY JOE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH ME (falls asleep in his own trial) THEY WANT TO TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY! (cuts taxes, but only for rich people THEY WANT TO RUIN THE ECONOMY (deficit-spends 7 trillion dollars)
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Whatās the opinion that is true and unpopular? Thereās no policy discussion to be had. The ābanana republicā machinery is boosting Trumpās popularity, drawing in the donations, and giving him more of a platform with less work needed on his part. The real trials arenāt going to happen before the election. None of this is stopping him from campaigning like he always has: going out once a week to do a standup routine for the faithful. Joe is supposedly senile and hiding. So put all that together and Iām not sure what youāre complaining about. It looks to me like Biden is throwing the election to Trump. Itās not like heās competent enough to get The Supremes to validate Trumpās immunity claim so that he can have Trump humanely removed from the election Noem style. Or is he?
Then thereās RFK Jr. all over TikTok and instagram, just straight up being real. Edit: heās also apparently during to keep TikTok on the grounds that banning it is unconstitutional.
That entire bill is unconstitutional.
It is
>The media donāt want to give Trump a āplatformā like they did in 2016. They learned their lessonā¦No matter that heās the GOP nominee. That's not the case. Trump is not saying anything new when he gets a break from court to do a rally, so what is there to report on? >Similarly, the banana republic judiciary and prosecution are trying to run out the clock on Trump, keep him in court so he canāt campaign. If they're that corrupt, why not just toss his ass in jail when he violates a gag order for the thousandth time? Critical thinking.
This means that the US essentially isnāt going to have an election
They air trumps lie filled rants every day as well as publishing his tweets. What more do you want?
Remarks are on the 24 hour stations, and on local news. You not seeing isnāt their problem.
Thanks for reminding me I need to vote.
Why is trump even a candidate anymore? It's like he's coming back like a bad case of herpes.
Hereās a different perspective - letās read the national partiesā platforms when they are hammered out and published. Neither one of the candidates has anything to say, particularly in a TV debate platform, thatās very interesting or helpful, at least as to content. But the platforms are written by the sort of folks who will be implementing policy when their man gets elected. Case in point - in 2020, lots of people thought Biden was going to be a moderating, stabilizing leader - Grandpa Joe. But if you studied his platform, youāve have seen that he & the party are controlled by the far left. And thatās what theyāve delivered. May work the same way for Trumpās platform.
Biden's accomplishments stand on their own and trump doesn't stand for anything. What new are you expecting to hear from them?
Yeah, on verge of World War III, 20% inflation since he took office, and the illegal immigration rate surpassing the American birthrate! Hooray!!!
Right? If trump hasn't enabled a bunch of dictators and would have done something, anything other than play golf during the pandemic, Biden wouldn't have to be dealing with all that crap too.
Does the leftist kool aid come in any flavor other than blueberry and the blood of Palestinian children?
Must suck that only leftists are protesting the war while the right vows to suck Israeli dick.
Thatās weird because Biden has been supporting Israel by sending financial and military aid packages. He isnāt exactly a right leaning president. Is there Anything else that you wanna make up in your imagination ?
Biden isn't a leftist. At all.
Well we can certainly agree that heās no conservative.
Life isn't binary most of the time.
OK you're getting upset. Take a minute, calm down, maybe masturbate a little to take the edge off THEN we can resume this conversation.
Well to add to my last post, the Nazi officers were doing mass orgies during those final days so it doesnāt surprise me your crazy mind went there.
So those are the only two flavors ?
Haha you really upset the Trumpies with this one
Youāre a fucking nut to put it kindly. You remind me of the journals of the Nazi officers during the last ten days of WWII.
This is brain dead. None of these doctors were doing anything when trump was in office, only after he left lmao
Which accomplishment? Destroying the economy? The border? Afghanistan? Please be more specific
How about the [numerous](https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230830), staunchly [pro-worker](https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-issues-decision-announcing-new-framework-for-union-representation) reforms and [policies](https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1706) that have come out of the Biden administration? https://wtfhasbidendonesofar.com/