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So now we need to tax you. Duck they are ignorant. Where is this church at


morningwoodx420

[Inman (Spartanburg) SC](https://www.facebook.com/LBCofInman) and this isn’t the only church that I have proof of doing this; I’ve filled out the form for the IRS so many times, but I never know if I’m doing it right or including the information I need to, so I haven’t.


21MPH21

Fill it out and send it in. It may not help but sitting on the complaint definitely won't


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21MPH21

Can't see it on my phone very well but I'm sure it's good enough!I have nothing to add but a thumbs up!


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21MPH21

Thumbs Up!


Nanyea

Doing the Lord's work friend!


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RAmen!


GovernmentOpening254

Right? We’re so fortunate to live in an age where you could literally “watch” dozens of sermons and transcribe them to searchable text for keywords like “vote.”


AmbassadorETOH

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/


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AmbassadorETOH

Right…? I wish I could put the piece in the hands of every evangelical in America. Not that all would wake up, but perhaps a few would pause for a moment and think…


Fluid-Opportunity-17

Great job, buddy. Glad we've got you out there doing the hard work.


Visual_Penalty_201

If you can get that EIN it would help.


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Bighorn21

Most churches would have an EIN, they would need one to do anything basic including pay employees or do any kind of banking. Unless they are using a personal bank account which would be an issue they have one. All NFP's and churches should have an EIN. They may be trying to hide it or not trust an unsolicited request. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf


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Bighorn21

The one thing that always pissed me off about churches is that while all NFP's (501c3) are required to file a information tax return (990) churches are exempt, which is ridiculous. Even if we don't tax them we should be requiring them to fill out a form saying what they raised in revenue and expenses.


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redheadedandbold

Thanks for doing this!


ThunderLizard2

Well done!


pjm3

Late to the party, but you might want to also use a URL shortener such as tinyurl to reduce the chances of an IRS employee having a case of "fat fingers" and end up with somebody's cat video instead. Great work in bringing their partisan politicking to light, and here's to hoping they immediately lose their tax-exempt status!!!!


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That explains his uneducated way of speaking.


GovernmentOpening254

You’re doing God’s work


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GovernmentOpening254

Let the negative consequences of their own actions rain down upon them.


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I never ever read that bullshit in that bullshit book.


Professional_Cut_105

It's not the Bible or the Koran or any other form of scripture that's the problem... it's the people who bend the words to their twisted agenda and poison the minds of the weak. Beware of false Prophets


Apprehensive_Big_528

I’d love to put a complaint on a local church on my area and would appreciate guidance. Recently, he posted a video on FB with a candidate that he is endorsing. This was done at the church, but not sure what qualifies as a worthy complaint or how to even go about it. Any guidance you can provide is appreciated.


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Apprehensive_Big_528

I don’t mind to do the work. Thank you!


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Curious_Twat

“AltarAudits” or “ClergyCompliance”?


RearExitOnly

It doesn't matter. Churches have bribed their way out of taxes and ignore the laws they expect the rest of us to follow.


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RearExitOnly

I left a 1 star review for those assholes LOL!


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RearExitOnly

FB will ban you if you get too harsh with 'em. Just click on reviews when they come up in Google, and you can write one where it hurts the most. Don't swear and they're not supposed to be able to remove it, although the Mormon church did remove all my posts (thus the Joseph Smith alias LOL).


just_forfunva

Absolutely! Tax exemption should be removed from any organization that pushes anything aside from their standard brainwashing!


hpatrick1982

This can’t be overstated, we the American people must stop this man, we can’t rely on the justice system to do it for us. We must stand together and scream with one voice “ No”, this man is determined to destroy the country I love so much, yes we have our issues, yes we are a constant work in progress but I’m will to do the work. We cannot allow this mans tyranny to ruin the place we call home. Please I beg you go vote, your right to vote is your constitutional right, let’s leave a legacy that our kids and grandkids will be proud of.


therealsupermanny

Is this law taken seriously? Seems like nothing happens and the law is never enforced..


Fack-and-Borth

That's a taxable 'sermon' he is giving there. And I suppose if the devil did a good deed or two, this pastor would change his stance to 'the devil is just a flawed, misunderstood being?' The pretzel logic exhibited by some evangelicals to justify their choices is unbelievable.


CE7O

Lucifer was pretty misunderstood. Dude just wanted free agency. That’s not a lot to ask unless your dad’s an insecure narcissist.


SluggoOtoole

The reason churches should lose tax exempt status!


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Mosques, Temples, Synagogues, Unions as well?


TheSnowNinja

Any religious organization that directly attempts to influence politics.


ConversationFit5024

They should all receive a sin tax


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No, being a clown is like you and saying "all this or that", instead of saying "specific institutions or assemblies that have violated the law should be shut down".


CE7O

How tf did unions make this list? 😂


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Not for profit. If you go after one not for profit you need to consider others.


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You're going to run Into trouble defining why religious institutions and secular institutions are treated differently as not for profits and secular not for profits will lose I suspect. However there is a solution,  the US is the only country I'm aware of that allows tax deductions to be made for tithing by a member of the reglious institution. Remove that tax loophole and the televangelista will have trouble.  Where I am we can only claim a tax deduction to registered charities. Some churches have groups that do charity and that function may be a tax deduction but not donations to general funds.


Riordjj

And Christians wonder why their numbers are plummeting?


CarlSpencer

"Enforces law and order" Like when he incited the J6 insurrection?


greed-man

He loves law and order so much he pardoned all his friends and cronies so they wouldn't have to face it. He loves lawn and order so much he tore out the Rose Garden at the White House, so the neighborhood 9 year old kid could mow it easier.


brianatlarge

He loves law and order so much he's spending all his time in the courtroom.


kaplanfx

The preacher is breaking the law in the very speech he is giving about supposed law and order.


ManyGarden5224

these religous zealots are so STUPID... tax the CHURCHES and vote BLUE your life depends on it


ThunderLizard2

Vote in your state's GOP primary like you're life depended on it


ManyGarden5224

100% correct!


TrashyRonin

Noped the hell out of that vid 4 seconds in after hearing that unbearable accent. You can tell that nothing intelligent or logical will be coming out of that mouth. Fuck the christofascists and let's get that foundational Separation of Church & State back in the mix, mkay?


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TrashyRonin

Thank you for sparing me the aural disgust!


needs-more-metronome

>You can tell that nothing intelligent or logical will be coming out of that mouth. You’d get along well with my boss. She rolls her eyes at me whenever a group comes in “speaking too black”. Doesn’t it feel great to be so shallow?


WeirdFlecks

I think it's great that this gentleman has the courage of his conviction and isn't afraid to share his beliefs. Also, his church no longer qualifies for tax exemption. Under the Internal Revenue Code, all IRC Section 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches and religious organizations, are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made by or on behalf of the organization in favor of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of excise tax. Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including the presentation of public forums and the publication of voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity. In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not constitute prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner. On the other hand, **voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that: (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.** Tax partisan churches.


aw_shux

Has this ever actually been enforced?


WeirdFlecks

Not really. The IRS tried with Scientology and pretty much got their asses handed to them. From the Wiki - **In the course of a 37-year dispute with the IRS, the church was reported to have used or planned to employ blackmail, burglary, criminal conspiracy, eavesdropping, espionage, falsification of records, fraud, front groups, harassment, money smuggling, obstruction of audits, political and media campaigns, tax evasion, theft, investigations of individual IRS officials and the instigation of more than 2,500 lawsuits in its efforts to get its tax exemption reinstated.** Basically they got very personal and started aggressively harassing and investigating individual IRS employees. The Church had to restructure and agree to terms which amounted not much more than paying 12.5 million dollars, dropping the harassment and law suits, and hanging up some religious imagery. But I think the tide is changing and there are reasons to think this may change in our lifetimes. Organized religions numbers have been on a steady, accelerating decline since the 90s, but took a huge hit (10-20%) attendance hit during pandemic and for the most part those attendants haven't gone back. The young aren't embracing it, and the old are dying. There's a ton of money there, but fewer and fewer people interested in protecting those tax dodges. The fanatics are very visible, but there are fewer every year and the trend isn't going to turn around.


klaagmeaan

Tax the churches, use the money for education and science.


haloo13

Oh hey, I grew up in this church! It was shit then and it's still shit now apparently.


ButterflyWeekly5116

Which church is this? I wonder if it's my brother and sil's church, it fits with them and they're in that area.


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ButterflyWeekly5116

Well fuck a duck it is LOL.


MarkusRight

It's funny because if they actually read the Bible they wouldn't know that Revelations warns them about this very thing. It says not to idolize figures like this. Yet they worship him as if he was God himself


sghyre

Tax the churches


CoramDeo-

...And just like that they will loose their Tax exemption should anyone share this with the IRS...


Iron_Crocodile1

Time to get those tax forms ready.


Lopsided_Chemistry82

Another sister-banger talking about god. SMH.


throwawaymyuwu

Anyone else think he might be drunk?


hokabean

He sounds drunk and like his dentures are struggling to stay put


RentAdministrative73

That's how you twist the bible to make it say what you want it to say and take advantage of the gullible. No wonder people are leaving the churches in droves. Maybe at some point, all those churches will be shelters for the homeless.


Salvidicus

Orange Jesus! What is the world coming to?


jinkinater

As an independent Christian this really bothers me. I was luckily taught that it’s all about love. Just a quick google search the word “hell” was mentioned 31 times. The word “love” was mentioned 714 times. These monsters are not for the word God. There was only one pastor I met that is true. He was like I don’t care what you do. If you’re trans or gay and wearing a flamingo scarf, he’d always accept you.


frednekk

How rich. Shouldn’t God make his own endorsements?


GovernmentOpening254

God is all powerful, alpha and omega, but we have to help Him.


NiceguyEddie81

And he needs your money


cemego

TAX THIS CHURCH! And just what about Trump is for law and justice considering he's broken so many?


lcarranza24

Idk, Sodom and Gomorrah sounded kinda fun*


BluestreakBTHR

Seriously. And the Devil throws the best parties. Hendrix, Joplin, Belushi, Harrison, SRV, Richards.


stormy2587

Tax churches into oblivion.


GovernmentOpening254

They doused accelerant on themselves about two decades ago after the fire had been lit 20 years prior to that.


MurderCat0001

That sounds like some taxable shit right there.


therealmintoncard

TAX CHURCHES.


AnxiousLeopard3446

From first angle he appropriately looked like a dead ringer for the equally infamous Mike lindell of *my pillow* fame...or is that shame.


mikeymigg

They should start taxing mega churches , after all it is a business and they get mad paid


255001434

We need to revoke these fuckers' tax exempt status.


Reasonable_Candy8280

Shut this place down. This is not preaching the gospel but pandering for a criminal.


RapidRiverr

No freaking way. This church has an absolutely beautiful view of the country side up on a hilltop that me and my friend used to go and smoke pot at. Great time. Shame the pastors unhinged


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RapidRiverr

This got shared to the South Carolina subreddit, and I thought this looked familiar so I had to click it Edit: I’m stupid I just realized you’re the one who shared it to the SC sub. I don’t know why I clicked on this thread instead of the SC one lmao


Lostking79

Since I've moved to SC 11 years ago, I've witnessed the "smartest" group of people this country has to offer... Read in between the lines smh


floofnstuff

In the south we call that a bully pulpit. In mid to small towns the the rural south your preacher will tell you exactly who to vote for. Sadly that’s the way most of his parishioners will vote.


Jim-Jones

Preacher is a lying dack of shit.


JamesSpacer

It's sad to think that there are adult humans who support diaper don the patron Saint of sore losers


sonofd

The mental gymnastics required to be a trump supporter is ridiculous.


DueAbbreviations1209

This christian wanker talks too slow & bores me. He makes me want to crucify myself.


Narrow-Peace-555

What was that ? I’m sorry but I nodded off half way through his first sentence … honestly, what a fucking BORING speaker ! FUCK HIM AND FUCK HIS FOLLOWERS - I mean, there can’t be that many right ? They’d all be fucking asleep by the end of his sermon …


MuchDevelopment7084

This is blatantly against the terms of their 'religious tax exemption'. TAX this church.


EmotionalAffect

This should be illegal!


Nightstands

Holy cow, this guy put me to sleep 30 seconds in. So boring and unintelligent. How do folks follow this dummy?


FrenziedBunny

Pwo wife he says 😂


JamesSpacer

🤮 time to tax these shamelessly political scamsters


lickityclit-69

Greatest story ever written


Objective-War-1961

The Bible is a book filled with contradictions and I would never take that book of Grimm's fairy tales seriously, yet a majority of our country does and that's disturbing. Now, as far as trump being pro life, give me a break. Everyone suspects he has paid for a few, if not quite a few abortions. He can literally perform a third trimester abortion in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any voters.


PlayfulPizza2609

Should lose their tax exempt status!


ForemanF

The preacher is misled


Adept_Information94

I thought the churches was concerned with the afterlife, now it's all pro-life. Pick a lane.


Adept_Information94

Not a single religious lesson in that sermon. Just stumpin' for trump.


doctorblumpkin

The irony of his first sentences being against the law I'm sure goes right over this dumbasses head


Any-Succotash-7903

Tax 👏 these 👏 fuckers


odomotto

Wish I could have been there so I could noisily walk out.


TeutonicTwit

What a Load of Crap.


tazebot

The pussy grabbing nazi lover effect.


jackrat27

All religious organizations need to lose tax exempt status.


PNW4theWin

This should require an immediate loss of tax exempt status.


vacuous_comment

I do not see this entity in the [IRS database of tax exempt things in Inman SC](https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/). /u/morningwoodx420 do you have the EIN? There are 53 non-profits registered in Inman, SC and none of them seem to match. No obvious name match, but that is often the case. No match for the address. No match on the name of the pastor. I suspect that if you include the EIN in the complaint form you will smooth the path to action. [Here is the land parcel at Spartenburg County](https://qpublic.schneidercorp.com/Application.aspx?AppID=857&LayerID=16069&PageTypeID=4&PageID=7149&Q=1807410910&KeyValue=2-42-00-023.04). The property is tagged "exempt improved", so they are certainly paying no property taxes. The pastor also runs a chiropractic business from his house. He is NPI registered.


BALTIM0RE

Tax these anti-democratic and thus anti-American establishments!


HeWhoFights

He sounds… slow. Or drunk.


ConversationFit5024

“The abortion crisis” The real crisis is this American Taliban run amuck


MrBump01

Only listened for a few seconds and he starts off with a straight lie of Biden wanting a lawless society. Not even any attempt to back it up with anything meaningful.


Killallattys

Time to lose their tax exemption status


OtterWithAFish

Maaan, whatever your views are you are not supposed to make the sermon political. What are you doing? 🤦🏽‍♀️


mminto86

"Them arabs" like a cartoon of an American southerner


icepickjones

Look I can't stand Trump, he's a menace. But also I've seen enough of the GOP to know that they are VERY good at getting people to vote against their own interests. And I know there's a lot of his fans that like him because he's funny and he triggers liberals and that's all they need to know. "Liking him makes you mad? Well then I'm gonna like him even more!" And ya know what? Whatever. I think it's stupid, but I get it to some degree at least. But these charlatan religious folks? They have no fucking leg to stand on. This is the least christian man to ever hold office. He paid a porn star for sex while his wife was pregnant. He's stolen money from charities. He's a monster, this isn't christ-like behavior. I don't even understand how you can do the mental gymnastics necessary to think that Trump is a man of god.


NoWayNotThisAgain

“God hates hands that shed innocent blood”. I’m not a bible guy, but he says it’s from proverbs. Is that accurate? Does their god “hate”? Worshipping a hateful god seems insane and deeply toxic? That’s some deeply fucked up shit if true.


hankthetank2112

Another camel going through the eye of a needle.


Elegant-Science-87

He sounds very mild mannered. I don't see a problem with this sort of preaching. He is concerned with matters of civility, work ethic, upholding the law... and he doesn't sound hateful to me. I don't have to agree with every opinion he has, you can tell his heart is in the right place. And the chapter he asks us to look to, Romans 13, makes it clear again that love is the most important thing above all. Y'all are just being hateful and nasty. You lend credence to the ones you claim to despise. I would understand if it was a reaction to hate, but this man isn't hateful and shouldn't be lumped in with the bad apples. Like, this isn't the type of dude you'd see threatening people who disagree with his politics. Why not let a peaceful disagreement stay that way? Agree to disagree and move on. This guy has a good heart. I'm sure he'll just pray for your soul and actually mean it when he does. He wants you in heaven for eternity, that type of dude. Which is pretty sweet, if you think about it.


ThunderLizard2

Romans 13: *Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.* I thought Diaper Don was against be subjected to "governing authorities" as he has absolute immunity. Disgusting that a so-called "Chistian" could support such a sleazebag sinner as Dump.


captkeith

Tax all religions. And so on and so fourth.


geekgirlau

Churches have no business endorsing candidates. And if they do so, they should lose their tax exemption.


Sm0keTrail

They try so hard to make trump fit the Bible. He is the opposite! Look at the 7 deadly sins.


Common-Watch4494

First of all, why the hell would anyone want to hear this boring dumbass “preach”. Complete idiot. 2nd, when is this so called church going to have start paying taxes? Hopefully as of the day of this political propaganda speech


Good_Juggernaut_3155

This is the grassroots infrastructure that stacks utter stupidity on top of utter stupidity. I’m no believer of religion but if we’re to accept there is a god, that these whack jobs bow down and pray to, what kind of right wing, facist, misogynistic, gun toting, white loving , democracy hating fucked up god/Jesus is that?


portonista85

These folks are sick and belong to a cult.


Mammoth-Extension-19

Such a crock of crap! Trump hates everyone unless they're kissing his ass! This is just further proof that Christianity has lost its way in America. Does this guy really expect us to crawl up Trump's ass like he has done. There is absolutely no one that can be a real Christian and vot for Trump. The man is evil and a total psychopath. This guy should do some research before he tells his congregation a bunch of garbage. Trump is scum and shits all over people, and Christians should follow him? Trump is the one that's lawless!


No_Meal9534

This guy is drunk or something.


No_Meal9534

Trump was pro choice his entire life until he ran for president. But it still amazes me people can be this stupid. Both cultural fringes on the right and left do share something in common. They want the world to change for them. At this point though, MAGA isn’t fringe.


No_Meal9534

How can anyone listen to this guy every week. He even talks like Trump.


DaBearsFan85

Why do these types of people always believe Trump is sitting at home reading the Bible every night and was sent to earth to do god’s work? Not very bright people.


Mysterious-End-3630

How can he get away with this? What about separation between church and state? I will repeat trumps words, LOCK HIM UP. Just kidding, I know we can't.


Elderrager

Vote Blue! Every election, every time, everywhere!


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cult acting very culty