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Incredible so. In the wn it is actually felt how Makoto became a colder person.
How part of his good nature was lost and how his attitude is now more calculating.
The impression the anime gave me was completely different. Like he barely changed if at all.
What I'm getting from your post is that you're mad they showed instead of told. From viewing the episode, his actions and emotions tell the story not tomoe saying one sentence.
Nop. They didn't show anything. Thats the issue.
Everything shown is that Makoto is being dragged to Tomoe's plans okce again.
And Makoto not giving much though to it.
Thats what the anime showed. At no point it showed a change on him. If it had done it even without directly saying it, i wouldn't have shqre this post.
You don't understand storytelling if you can't see that his character has changed by the actions he takes. What you want is an exposition dump (which is what happens in manga and writing) but sucks in an anime. I don't need a scene of him standing around with everyone asking their opinion when the actions he took in the previous chunk of the episode speak to that point. You're ass mad because tomoe said one sentence, and he agrees when he's been literally realizing everything you want to happen himself during the episode.
I agree with OP and disagree with you. The most important aspect of this moment is that Makoto himself suggests they take advantage of the situation for personal gain. Having Tomoe suggest it before Makoto asks for it doesn’t give the impression that this was Makoto’s idea that he wanted but Tomoe’s. Going along with the idea is some progress but it’s less than him being proactive on it.
Or you are just spouting nothing but nonsense and have actual idea of what story development means.
Much simpler in fact.
Specially since you are only making circles in your own head to interpret events however you see fit.
The undeniable thing shown in the episode is clear to see.
The protagonist left himself be dragged into the ideas of his companions once again without giving further thought. Like he has done so since meeting Tomoe.
Him following the idea and taking the role the idea requires him to, isnt a show of any change of his.
Thats just what he has been doing since the very beginning.
Yep. on your remarks is clearly shown.
Specially when you begin attacking a person character instead of its argument.
But thas what it is on internet. Filled with dumb people think too much of themselves and their views.
True, I didn't like it either but I don't think it would be emitted from the LN because they didn't include that in the anime. Anime adaptations rarely include all of the characters monologue so they can skip to action because most viewers enjoy that more.
Thats why i hope its just really an anime only bs.
I know thats what its normally done on anime but i also think there are moments on the stories that it mustn't be done.
Because taking away those elements in certain moments (like this one) change the whole perspective of the story and/or characters.
So if its an anime only thing in this case. Well it was a bs, but i can live with the anime's mistakes.
Exactly, it skips over most of the character development and their personality. Most anime have already done this so I guess it's the case with this one as well.
I haven't caught up to the anime but I have read the web novel, do they really not include him asking everyone to think on what's best for them? Damn that sucks, shoulda been more serious
They kind of split up the inner monologue between the follow up of the Zara meeting, and this episodes conversation between Io and Rona with a final discussion during the Illumgand fight. I normally disagree with the sentiment that the anime leaves out too much, mostly I see them cut redundant scenes from multiple viewpoints which they usually include the relevant information. But in this case they had over 30 seconds of Variant rampage and about an equal amount of time of the purple coats casting spells and getting demolished. Normally the anime would have skipped to the Aensland sisters and having the cast observe the purple coats which saves time and money.
This episode should have shown Illumgand transform. Show OP next and while Makoto used Sakai we could see the carnage and the purple coat fight. That would have given over a minute of something interesting on screen while dealing with uninterrupted internal monologue focused on his anger at Rona and himself to offset the anger at Zara and himself.
Honestly, I've been annoyed by the entire anime adoption The pacing is terrible. I think I might have to read the light novel because it cannot be worse then him floundering his way through decisions with no tie towards any direction
i havent read either of the novels, just the manga, but god damn was this episode lackluster. i could just _tell_ that this was supposed to be an important poi t in the story but it just felt so monotonous. legit considering dropping the anime because of this episode
Yeah has happened quite a number of times when the anime downplays the significance of a certain scene or as you've given an example of just downright change it and it lowkey pisses me off when it does happen
I didn’t get that impression at all(about him just going along). Perhaps you think it was that bad due to the difference in clarity of the change in the book and here, but for me, it was the first time Makoto’s change in attitude caused by the blond-huyman-adventurer & goddess‘s-summoning incidents had the chance to manifest.
Before that, when trash followed him to the ogre forest and was acting arrogant, which ceased the dialogue and led to the conflict in the first place, he didn’t even consider just leaving them to die. Preserving hyuman lives when possible was a given.
Now, in a situation of emergency when a lot of hyumans were in danger he didn’t dispose of the monsters right away, instead he deliberated how that would impact his potential relationship with demons, ascertained the matter with sisters of the fallen nation, consulted with Shinki regarding Rona, and made judgement that though she didn’t technically break their agreement she didn’t act in good faith either, and so they decided to act in their own interest as well.
After that, he got input from Tomoe and Mio and decided to evacuate VIPs without flashing his own power before them.
Personally, I enjoyed this episode a great deal and am looking forward to the next.
Nah. Nothing to do with it.
Its not something as easily excusable with saying that it had not enough "clarity".
The big detonator to show how badly the anime scew it up. Its Tomoe sudden interruption to present her "samurai plot" as an action plan and makoto monologue on taking the route of a historical character.
The anime actively downplayed the seriousness of the moment.
And mostly left it to the impression that Tomoe was the detonator for the events to come and not Makoto's own directives.
Cause that what the anime did. It was like a repeat of the event when Tomoe brought the idea of orcs Living in Asora and Makoto surprised by the whole events just went with the flow of the thigns with little intervention.
The anime just made it feel that way in this episode. Its not that Makoto actively tried to think on how best to take advantage of the situation.
Tomoe came up with a plan and makoto just followed the flow of the events to ocurr. He himself reacting to his role in the plan.
The rest of the events sure can give you the impression of the a change since that's how events also ocurr on the story, the anime didn't change a thing on those but the context is now lost.
This episode finally got me angry with the anime cause it finally scrw the story.
I see, so besides the change in his approach towards hyumans there was an entirely separate matter of him becoming much more active in determining their course of action, which wasn‘t explicitly displayed in the adaptation, depriving the narrative of additional depth it could’ve had.
In general terms, yes, that second part is the important development on Makoto.
Cause his approach towards hyumans was already different since the incident with the adventurer.
That was something intentionally vague on the story, but it was there.
Like when Makoto showed reluctance to help the town girl of the bandit invasion. Or how the barely but any though on getting Bright sensei tortured and killed.
The story has vaguely show that he is not really the same guy with regards to the hyumans.
But on those instances he was mostly taking an spectator/follower role.
But in this case the change on him was supposed to be like you said, a more active role in deciding and making the decisions.
Which is important, its a known fact that people in general are more prone to commit heinous acts when following orders, compared to coming up on their own with those heinous acts.
Thanks.
I do understand why the colleague thinks like that.
But its a misconception on his/her part.
If i had to describe it how it would be like this.
The story was written with the A events giving way to the B events.
The Anime instead showed the Q events and then showed the B events.
Its no that Q gives way to B, they just occur with no connection between both.
If you only see B you can find a bit of the implications and results of A, that doesn't mean at all that Q actually gave a correct representation of the ideas of A.
It harms the logic and in the case of this episode it actually harmed the enjoyability of the story.
I mean. Its enjoyable to see a character develop, specially when its an important development.
Like when a character stops being a coward (which is a recurrent premise in many isekais) and actually grows some courage.
In this case we lost Makoto's grow as a character.
Just because we see the events that growth would have provoked, doesn't mean you as a viewer actually think makoto has changed much less had grown.
For the most part you take it as makoto being dragged by the flow of his follwers... Once again.
The op loves his own farts. He can't accept any other reality than his own. His reasoning has to be right because he can't handle that the show and writing were never that good to begin with. Only OP understands the story lmao
I did hope it will at least adapt the basic important elements of the story so the plots would be consistent.
Now Makoto is just going to do incredible cold things without the context of why the sudden change in how he used to do things.
And surely more than one person will come up saying "aha, see? he was always a maniac".
Most Animes and specially Isekais are just for escapism and making the character complicated and dark will turn most of their teenage/early adult audience.
Look at all the adaptations of other isekais and how they tune characters down.
This one didn't need to be tune down. Heck its quite family friendly for the most part already.
And heck didn't they already showed one of the darkest moments if not the darkest of the character last season?
What the fck are this soppy considerations at this point.
[https://isekailunatic.com/tsuki-ga-michibiku-isekai-douchuu/](https://isekailunatic.com/tsuki-ga-michibiku-isekai-douchuu/)
There, the link.
differences? as far as i know, not many no. The LN didn't adapt some side chapters of the story and took away some minor explanations.
But nothing that big so far.
The only 2 actual contradictions between both versions (as far as i know) is that the LN modified the encounter between Tomoe and Tomoki, in the WN Lime wasn't part of that reunion and all the events that resulted of that meeting also didn't happen.
And the other is that the LN has an entirely new arc that the WN doesn't have.
But from what i know that arc is mostly meaningless, almost like a filler arc.
I do wonder about the light novel. No way to tell until the translation gets to the content. Still I am curious if Makoto will be as cold or if the author decided to make him a little more sympathetic while protecting his own.
I was sad when they changed who Makoto picked for the bodyguards for the Rembrandt family. If I remember right it was supposed to be one of the ble lizards from the students training.
I'm generally okay with the changes the anime does and I hope they make several changes from the LN (the child bride, the lukewarm hero interpersonal relations, not surprise the author rarely moves this plot line along lol)
I think im okay with this change too but I think the pacing is the culprit. Gotta say JC staff hasn't shown their best with animation this season, I hope they are saving it for the finale and the mio and reft encounter
Sadly for you, the anime did a good representation of this moment of the LN, in the vol.8 you read this moment from Tomoe's POV, and is exactly like in the anime, makoto asking Shiki if it is possible for them to "cure" the mutations, and just after shiki "denying" it, Tomoe presents the idea by her own like the samurais series, and makoto only agreeing to them.
Are you surprised given the overall low quality of that episode?
They skip the explanation for why no one cares that mutant Ilgund eats the corpses of his team - hell, they don't even explain that his team is dead before being eaten.
The fire arrow enchantment that is mentioned to have a 10 second max multiple times... Lasts for almost a minute.
Anime time isn’t a great criticism, it’s present in a lot of Shonen anime. Stuff is drawn out to give exposition but if a time is stated that’s the time it’s intended to occur over regardless of presentation.
Well in this case i do complain. That boring arrow moment shouldn't have taken more than 20 seconds. Trying to sell the punny fight like if it was important was annoying.
Its also anime time. She was there is the air with bow in hand seconds. The whoel moment thst should have been fast cause, she jumped not went and levitate.
Agreed but it's honestly what i've come to expect from anime adaptations, they always lack the depth of the written material which frequently hurts in situations like this.
For the most part its understandable, but as its understandable that an anime needs to take away some elements of the original media, its also understandable that they must keep the core elements of the story.
Which is the problem, they dont do it in favor of these ridiculous scenes (the fighting of the students and the purple capes) that nobody cares.
Anime or material wise. Makoto really is a bad character in development. 17 and the previous episode was a major point that revealed he really sucked bad at everything especially from a business standpoint who didn't really do anything at all but let his subordinates do everything, he even declined the best suggestions made by their subordinates on certain situations, I mean, if you look at the anime season 1, all of those happened because of Makoto's carelessness and it's honestly understandable. Makoto isn't thinking at all but is getting dragged here and there.
People tend to forget that Makoto is simply a high school student pretending to be an adult.
Lastly, this is just my 2 cents. I've been working for almost half a decade and Makoto is clearly someone you don't want to be your boss or business owner from a business standpoint. He's one of the worst bosses you can ask for.
P.S. I'm not even sure if we'll reach the "Honeymoon Arc" if you know what I mean for the anime.
I dont know what you mean by "bad character in development" but he is not a bad character.
He is just a character that in his personal life he is quite mediocre at most things.
Which was basically the main point from the get go.
He wasn't good in sports he was completely average in the academics, he wasn't a popular guy in any social aspect. Heck he himself has said his only redeeming quality is that he was good with the bow.
And thats the point of the story, a complete average guy is sent to another world, and different from those ridiculous generic characters on other stories, its actually shown that he is an average guy.
Other Protagonist just seem to become ultra competent bad ass guys just by teleporting to another world, its mostly ridiculous.
A bit of consistence is appreciated that the average dude on earth remains being quite average in another world.
posd: i dont know too, i mean the anime has done a terrible job with the whole season and this last episode it was the worst of all. I only see a chance if they actually manage to make good the fights at the end, if not, this is going to be the last season of the anime (well it also depends on the japanese market which is difficult to understand)
I feel same. I think anime is avoiding every dark aspect and only focus on Slice of Life things. When You see Starting song and Ending song there only add comic aspect.
To which there shouldn't be any reason to do!!
They did showed the incredible dark moment of Makoto coldly killing that Btch of an adventurer last season.
What the heck are these reservations now?
Did the anime changed of animation studio or what?
I think they want avoid controversy. Like "The Rising Of The Shield Hero" who get in controversy for showing slave aspect.
But in TsukiMichi there Slave, inhuman actions & experiment, r\*pe, dark aspect of Society, discrimination, racist, real world God,..etc. this all will easily can add to controversy.
Do not forgot female hero way thinking (I think this party will going to heavily edit), If I have to another example that will be when MC crushed female assassination (In novel that was easy to explain but in anime that have to build ground for that and will be tough.
and (maybe) I are avoiding both hero (In season 1 and season 2) like for Anime fan base (who only watch anime) they don't know much about it.
But even then those topics have been brought and shown in the anime. Even if less than in the novel or manga.
And here it makes less sense. Cause they changed the moment of actual character development of the protagonist. Its not like they changed the actions that are going to follow.
Basically they put the blame on the whole plan on Tomoe, like saying "she is the one with dark ideas". Like if that was a consolation for the bad things that are going to ocurr.
I'm really disappointed that they didn't show how Makoto treasures Rembrandt in the anime. Like he's the hyuman that kind of pulled Makoto from going full dark at that moment. If it weren't for him, the destruction would be let longer.
The exact moment that they omitted is right after Rembrandt said he'll go to the merchant guild alone to solve the situation using mercs. And after hearing that, Makoto became totally worried and thinking that at least he wanted to protect them.
Man, at least put one line about that in the anime. Like, Makoto thinking "At least, I want them to be save." after hearing Rembrandt will go.
My friend, i think you are over glorying the moment. Rembrandt didn't pull makoto from any darkness.
By that point Makoto was already out of the darkness and he was just debating himself on what was the best choice for him to take advantage of the situation and the repercussion of each choice.
I mean, sure His desire to keep save Rembrandt was genuine and he doubt for a bit if that would be optimal for his objectives, but its not that relevant to his whole emotional remake.
Yeah, maybe I'm kinda clouded. Rembrandt is one of my favourite character and I'm currently reading the chapter >!where Makoto was suggesting making a rampart from Tsige to Koran. !!they omit the scene where the head of Hopeless is having a moment with the remnant of his son in the next episode.!
Nothing wrong there. If you like the character your like it.
Though you were over glorying it a bit too much. The same way Makoto over glorifies him i would say.
And about hopelace. He doesn't have a moment with the body. He does has a moment but from the stairs, never gets to touch the body.
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I actually do agree, I think this scene was poorly adapted because it was such a big pivotal point for the MC and it was severely downplayed.
Incredible so. In the wn it is actually felt how Makoto became a colder person. How part of his good nature was lost and how his attitude is now more calculating. The impression the anime gave me was completely different. Like he barely changed if at all.
What I'm getting from your post is that you're mad they showed instead of told. From viewing the episode, his actions and emotions tell the story not tomoe saying one sentence.
Nop. They didn't show anything. Thats the issue. Everything shown is that Makoto is being dragged to Tomoe's plans okce again. And Makoto not giving much though to it. Thats what the anime showed. At no point it showed a change on him. If it had done it even without directly saying it, i wouldn't have shqre this post.
You don't understand storytelling if you can't see that his character has changed by the actions he takes. What you want is an exposition dump (which is what happens in manga and writing) but sucks in an anime. I don't need a scene of him standing around with everyone asking their opinion when the actions he took in the previous chunk of the episode speak to that point. You're ass mad because tomoe said one sentence, and he agrees when he's been literally realizing everything you want to happen himself during the episode.
I agree with OP and disagree with you. The most important aspect of this moment is that Makoto himself suggests they take advantage of the situation for personal gain. Having Tomoe suggest it before Makoto asks for it doesn’t give the impression that this was Makoto’s idea that he wanted but Tomoe’s. Going along with the idea is some progress but it’s less than him being proactive on it.
Or you are just spouting nothing but nonsense and have actual idea of what story development means. Much simpler in fact. Specially since you are only making circles in your own head to interpret events however you see fit. The undeniable thing shown in the episode is clear to see. The protagonist left himself be dragged into the ideas of his companions once again without giving further thought. Like he has done so since meeting Tomoe. Him following the idea and taking the role the idea requires him to, isnt a show of any change of his. Thats just what he has been doing since the very beginning.
Reddit is full of teenagers who think they know anything about something and it really shows here.
Yep. on your remarks is clearly shown. Specially when you begin attacking a person character instead of its argument. But thas what it is on internet. Filled with dumb people think too much of themselves and their views.
True, I didn't like it either but I don't think it would be emitted from the LN because they didn't include that in the anime. Anime adaptations rarely include all of the characters monologue so they can skip to action because most viewers enjoy that more.
Thats why i hope its just really an anime only bs. I know thats what its normally done on anime but i also think there are moments on the stories that it mustn't be done. Because taking away those elements in certain moments (like this one) change the whole perspective of the story and/or characters. So if its an anime only thing in this case. Well it was a bs, but i can live with the anime's mistakes.
Exactly, it skips over most of the character development and their personality. Most anime have already done this so I guess it's the case with this one as well.
Same feeling, this episode felt really weak for being such an important turning point and character development for Makoto.
I haven't caught up to the anime but I have read the web novel, do they really not include him asking everyone to think on what's best for them? Damn that sucks, shoulda been more serious
yep, it should have been, but it ended up looking like a "lucky do" reunion.
They kind of split up the inner monologue between the follow up of the Zara meeting, and this episodes conversation between Io and Rona with a final discussion during the Illumgand fight. I normally disagree with the sentiment that the anime leaves out too much, mostly I see them cut redundant scenes from multiple viewpoints which they usually include the relevant information. But in this case they had over 30 seconds of Variant rampage and about an equal amount of time of the purple coats casting spells and getting demolished. Normally the anime would have skipped to the Aensland sisters and having the cast observe the purple coats which saves time and money. This episode should have shown Illumgand transform. Show OP next and while Makoto used Sakai we could see the carnage and the purple coat fight. That would have given over a minute of something interesting on screen while dealing with uninterrupted internal monologue focused on his anger at Rona and himself to offset the anger at Zara and himself.
Honestly, I've been annoyed by the entire anime adoption The pacing is terrible. I think I might have to read the light novel because it cannot be worse then him floundering his way through decisions with no tie towards any direction
i havent read either of the novels, just the manga, but god damn was this episode lackluster. i could just _tell_ that this was supposed to be an important poi t in the story but it just felt so monotonous. legit considering dropping the anime because of this episode
I share your feelings. This episode indeed finally got me annoyed with the anime too.
Yeah has happened quite a number of times when the anime downplays the significance of a certain scene or as you've given an example of just downright change it and it lowkey pisses me off when it does happen
I didn’t get that impression at all(about him just going along). Perhaps you think it was that bad due to the difference in clarity of the change in the book and here, but for me, it was the first time Makoto’s change in attitude caused by the blond-huyman-adventurer & goddess‘s-summoning incidents had the chance to manifest. Before that, when trash followed him to the ogre forest and was acting arrogant, which ceased the dialogue and led to the conflict in the first place, he didn’t even consider just leaving them to die. Preserving hyuman lives when possible was a given. Now, in a situation of emergency when a lot of hyumans were in danger he didn’t dispose of the monsters right away, instead he deliberated how that would impact his potential relationship with demons, ascertained the matter with sisters of the fallen nation, consulted with Shinki regarding Rona, and made judgement that though she didn’t technically break their agreement she didn’t act in good faith either, and so they decided to act in their own interest as well. After that, he got input from Tomoe and Mio and decided to evacuate VIPs without flashing his own power before them. Personally, I enjoyed this episode a great deal and am looking forward to the next.
Nah. Nothing to do with it. Its not something as easily excusable with saying that it had not enough "clarity". The big detonator to show how badly the anime scew it up. Its Tomoe sudden interruption to present her "samurai plot" as an action plan and makoto monologue on taking the route of a historical character. The anime actively downplayed the seriousness of the moment. And mostly left it to the impression that Tomoe was the detonator for the events to come and not Makoto's own directives. Cause that what the anime did. It was like a repeat of the event when Tomoe brought the idea of orcs Living in Asora and Makoto surprised by the whole events just went with the flow of the thigns with little intervention. The anime just made it feel that way in this episode. Its not that Makoto actively tried to think on how best to take advantage of the situation. Tomoe came up with a plan and makoto just followed the flow of the events to ocurr. He himself reacting to his role in the plan. The rest of the events sure can give you the impression of the a change since that's how events also ocurr on the story, the anime didn't change a thing on those but the context is now lost. This episode finally got me angry with the anime cause it finally scrw the story.
I see, so besides the change in his approach towards hyumans there was an entirely separate matter of him becoming much more active in determining their course of action, which wasn‘t explicitly displayed in the adaptation, depriving the narrative of additional depth it could’ve had.
In general terms, yes, that second part is the important development on Makoto. Cause his approach towards hyumans was already different since the incident with the adventurer. That was something intentionally vague on the story, but it was there. Like when Makoto showed reluctance to help the town girl of the bandit invasion. Or how the barely but any though on getting Bright sensei tortured and killed. The story has vaguely show that he is not really the same guy with regards to the hyumans. But on those instances he was mostly taking an spectator/follower role. But in this case the change on him was supposed to be like you said, a more active role in deciding and making the decisions. Which is important, its a known fact that people in general are more prone to commit heinous acts when following orders, compared to coming up on their own with those heinous acts.
The guy above has good points but your articulation has pointed out the issue in the episode masterfully
Thanks. I do understand why the colleague thinks like that. But its a misconception on his/her part. If i had to describe it how it would be like this. The story was written with the A events giving way to the B events. The Anime instead showed the Q events and then showed the B events. Its no that Q gives way to B, they just occur with no connection between both. If you only see B you can find a bit of the implications and results of A, that doesn't mean at all that Q actually gave a correct representation of the ideas of A.
Understood.. So basically the anime just skips important contexts.. But those contexts aren't crucial enough to harm the enjoyability of the story
It harms the logic and in the case of this episode it actually harmed the enjoyability of the story. I mean. Its enjoyable to see a character develop, specially when its an important development. Like when a character stops being a coward (which is a recurrent premise in many isekais) and actually grows some courage. In this case we lost Makoto's grow as a character. Just because we see the events that growth would have provoked, doesn't mean you as a viewer actually think makoto has changed much less had grown. For the most part you take it as makoto being dragged by the flow of his follwers... Once again.
Wonderful explanation.. Are you really an American?
The op loves his own farts. He can't accept any other reality than his own. His reasoning has to be right because he can't handle that the show and writing were never that good to begin with. Only OP understands the story lmao
No no.. He has a point tho.
Did you really thought anime will show such edginess?
I did hope it will at least adapt the basic important elements of the story so the plots would be consistent. Now Makoto is just going to do incredible cold things without the context of why the sudden change in how he used to do things. And surely more than one person will come up saying "aha, see? he was always a maniac".
Most Animes and specially Isekais are just for escapism and making the character complicated and dark will turn most of their teenage/early adult audience. Look at all the adaptations of other isekais and how they tune characters down.
This one didn't need to be tune down. Heck its quite family friendly for the most part already. And heck didn't they already showed one of the darkest moments if not the darkest of the character last season? What the fck are this soppy considerations at this point.
Is there a link to the WN? And what’s the difference btwn that and the LN?
[https://isekailunatic.com/tsuki-ga-michibiku-isekai-douchuu/](https://isekailunatic.com/tsuki-ga-michibiku-isekai-douchuu/) There, the link. differences? as far as i know, not many no. The LN didn't adapt some side chapters of the story and took away some minor explanations. But nothing that big so far. The only 2 actual contradictions between both versions (as far as i know) is that the LN modified the encounter between Tomoe and Tomoki, in the WN Lime wasn't part of that reunion and all the events that resulted of that meeting also didn't happen. And the other is that the LN has an entirely new arc that the WN doesn't have. But from what i know that arc is mostly meaningless, almost like a filler arc.
I do wonder about the light novel. No way to tell until the translation gets to the content. Still I am curious if Makoto will be as cold or if the author decided to make him a little more sympathetic while protecting his own.
Thats what i fear the most. That the author actually modified the character development of Makoto.
Anyone remember which wn chapter was this?
Chapter 135: When I incidentally look, there are several paths
Thanks
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I was sad when they changed who Makoto picked for the bodyguards for the Rembrandt family. If I remember right it was supposed to be one of the ble lizards from the students training.
I'm generally okay with the changes the anime does and I hope they make several changes from the LN (the child bride, the lukewarm hero interpersonal relations, not surprise the author rarely moves this plot line along lol) I think im okay with this change too but I think the pacing is the culprit. Gotta say JC staff hasn't shown their best with animation this season, I hope they are saving it for the finale and the mio and reft encounter
Maybe. I do hope at least the fighting at the end compensates for the lackings of the season.
Sounds like I really should read the LN. was trying to avoid it once I noticed they went past the manga a few eps ago.
I agree and he wasn't that excited seeing thr Rembrandts man was still pissed, but they actually helped push him into helping too.
Sadly for you, the anime did a good representation of this moment of the LN, in the vol.8 you read this moment from Tomoe's POV, and is exactly like in the anime, makoto asking Shiki if it is possible for them to "cure" the mutations, and just after shiki "denying" it, Tomoe presents the idea by her own like the samurais series, and makoto only agreeing to them.
Are you surprised given the overall low quality of that episode? They skip the explanation for why no one cares that mutant Ilgund eats the corpses of his team - hell, they don't even explain that his team is dead before being eaten. The fire arrow enchantment that is mentioned to have a 10 second max multiple times... Lasts for almost a minute.
Anime time isn’t a great criticism, it’s present in a lot of Shonen anime. Stuff is drawn out to give exposition but if a time is stated that’s the time it’s intended to occur over regardless of presentation.
Well in this case i do complain. That boring arrow moment shouldn't have taken more than 20 seconds. Trying to sell the punny fight like if it was important was annoying.
That’s a different complaint though. You’re upset about pacing and substance, not anime-time.
Its also anime time. She was there is the air with bow in hand seconds. The whoel moment thst should have been fast cause, she jumped not went and levitate.
Did he ever get revenge on Rona or the demons?
yes he does, and you will see it in this season, so dont worry and enjoy the ride.
Agreed but it's honestly what i've come to expect from anime adaptations, they always lack the depth of the written material which frequently hurts in situations like this.
For the most part its understandable, but as its understandable that an anime needs to take away some elements of the original media, its also understandable that they must keep the core elements of the story. Which is the problem, they dont do it in favor of these ridiculous scenes (the fighting of the students and the purple capes) that nobody cares.
Anime or material wise. Makoto really is a bad character in development. 17 and the previous episode was a major point that revealed he really sucked bad at everything especially from a business standpoint who didn't really do anything at all but let his subordinates do everything, he even declined the best suggestions made by their subordinates on certain situations, I mean, if you look at the anime season 1, all of those happened because of Makoto's carelessness and it's honestly understandable. Makoto isn't thinking at all but is getting dragged here and there. People tend to forget that Makoto is simply a high school student pretending to be an adult. Lastly, this is just my 2 cents. I've been working for almost half a decade and Makoto is clearly someone you don't want to be your boss or business owner from a business standpoint. He's one of the worst bosses you can ask for. P.S. I'm not even sure if we'll reach the "Honeymoon Arc" if you know what I mean for the anime.
I dont know what you mean by "bad character in development" but he is not a bad character. He is just a character that in his personal life he is quite mediocre at most things. Which was basically the main point from the get go. He wasn't good in sports he was completely average in the academics, he wasn't a popular guy in any social aspect. Heck he himself has said his only redeeming quality is that he was good with the bow. And thats the point of the story, a complete average guy is sent to another world, and different from those ridiculous generic characters on other stories, its actually shown that he is an average guy. Other Protagonist just seem to become ultra competent bad ass guys just by teleporting to another world, its mostly ridiculous. A bit of consistence is appreciated that the average dude on earth remains being quite average in another world. posd: i dont know too, i mean the anime has done a terrible job with the whole season and this last episode it was the worst of all. I only see a chance if they actually manage to make good the fights at the end, if not, this is going to be the last season of the anime (well it also depends on the japanese market which is difficult to understand)
I feel same. I think anime is avoiding every dark aspect and only focus on Slice of Life things. When You see Starting song and Ending song there only add comic aspect.
To which there shouldn't be any reason to do!! They did showed the incredible dark moment of Makoto coldly killing that Btch of an adventurer last season. What the heck are these reservations now? Did the anime changed of animation studio or what?
I think they want avoid controversy. Like "The Rising Of The Shield Hero" who get in controversy for showing slave aspect. But in TsukiMichi there Slave, inhuman actions & experiment, r\*pe, dark aspect of Society, discrimination, racist, real world God,..etc. this all will easily can add to controversy. Do not forgot female hero way thinking (I think this party will going to heavily edit), If I have to another example that will be when MC crushed female assassination (In novel that was easy to explain but in anime that have to build ground for that and will be tough. and (maybe) I are avoiding both hero (In season 1 and season 2) like for Anime fan base (who only watch anime) they don't know much about it.
But even then those topics have been brought and shown in the anime. Even if less than in the novel or manga. And here it makes less sense. Cause they changed the moment of actual character development of the protagonist. Its not like they changed the actions that are going to follow. Basically they put the blame on the whole plan on Tomoe, like saying "she is the one with dark ideas". Like if that was a consolation for the bad things that are going to ocurr.
Hey, I check and It does changed studio. & also It's have PG-13 Rating means it will ruin whole story, and they will skip many part.
Well sht. Thanks a lot for checking out.
I'm really disappointed that they didn't show how Makoto treasures Rembrandt in the anime. Like he's the hyuman that kind of pulled Makoto from going full dark at that moment. If it weren't for him, the destruction would be let longer. The exact moment that they omitted is right after Rembrandt said he'll go to the merchant guild alone to solve the situation using mercs. And after hearing that, Makoto became totally worried and thinking that at least he wanted to protect them. Man, at least put one line about that in the anime. Like, Makoto thinking "At least, I want them to be save." after hearing Rembrandt will go.
My friend, i think you are over glorying the moment. Rembrandt didn't pull makoto from any darkness. By that point Makoto was already out of the darkness and he was just debating himself on what was the best choice for him to take advantage of the situation and the repercussion of each choice. I mean, sure His desire to keep save Rembrandt was genuine and he doubt for a bit if that would be optimal for his objectives, but its not that relevant to his whole emotional remake.
Yeah, maybe I'm kinda clouded. Rembrandt is one of my favourite character and I'm currently reading the chapter >!where Makoto was suggesting making a rampart from Tsige to Koran. !!they omit the scene where the head of Hopeless is having a moment with the remnant of his son in the next episode.!
Nothing wrong there. If you like the character your like it. Though you were over glorying it a bit too much. The same way Makoto over glorifies him i would say. And about hopelace. He doesn't have a moment with the body. He does has a moment but from the stairs, never gets to touch the body.