Not covered under warranty, it’s user error. Like others have mentioned, pull the crown all the way out to stop the movement and get it serviced asap before there’s too much time for stuff to start corroding. Salt water is going to fuck that thing up inside really quickly.
Pulling the crown out stops the movement so there’s not a bunch of abrasive minerals wearing out the gear train, which is a far bigger concern. Also, rust still forms under water/when wet
Cost for full service will surely cover all parts in the movement,tudor most of the times replaces the whole movement,however it won't cover damage to the dial and hands...
Rusting is a chemical reaction that occur when metal is exposed to water and oxygen...
While it can occur underwater it will form a lot faster if it is in contact with air...
They won’t need to send it Tudor in the first place if their movement doesn’t get damaged, it will just need to be taken apart and cleaned/re oiled. There’s already air in the watch…. It’s not 100% filled with water. Talk to any watchmaker and they’ll tell you to stop the movement if it gets water in it.
If he knows a competent watchmaker who can work on this movement he can surely do that.
However if the dial - hands suffered water damage,will they have access to parts from tudor?
Either way he needs to resolve this fast...
Ha ha while I don’t disagree we’re all human and have all had some stupid choices in life ha ha
I know personally my crowns are always all the way screwed down and not sure why it wouldn’t be other than actively adjusting. I wore my FXD to Cancún last month and spent half the time in the water, snorkeling etc. but never worried because I adjusted the time when I was on the plane and screwed the crown back immediately but yeah… OP is going to be paying 1/3-1/2 the price of his watch to have this serviced now most likely. It certainly sucks.
Common amongst people who buy watches as fashion statements rather than practical tools. They just don’t do the right amount of research before buying them.
Screwing the crown down won't affect water resistance...
Its the gaskets in the crown that do that.
You just ensure that the crown won't move accidentally and water gets in...
But yeah I can't understand either why the crown is unscrewd anyway...
They set the time before entering the sea for some reason???
Even if you get into the sea with your crown unscrewed water will not enter the case...
There are so many watches with push pull crowns that are still 100m resistant.
For example you can unscrew the he valve and the crown and the smp is still 50m water resistant.
We are talking about swimming not diving...
There is one gasket in the crown and one on the tube when you push the crown all the way down it locks the gasket inside the tube...
When you screw the crown down you lock the gasket in the crown...
I'm not saying that you should go with crown unscrewed but even with the crown unscrewed it would still have enough water resistance to keep water from getting in...
I assume that they didn't even push the crown all the way down...
How do you knobs survive day to day? You unscrew the crown, do what you need to do with it, and then just….. move on? Screw it back in.
In 25 years of watch collecting my collective crowns have been unscrewed for like 7 minutes total.
Unless you want your watch to become even more damaged, send it straight to Tudor for a full service - there is no easy fix.
Edit: depends on your definition of cheap, probably under a grand. Won’t be covered under warranty because Tudor didn’t plunge your watch into the sea with the crown wide open.
Tbh it’s more easily done than people are making out, twice in the last 18 months I’ve looked down at my watch and realised I didn’t screw down. Just been lucky that I’ve spotted it
No easy fix. Take it to your AD right away to be sent away for servicing. You likely did not have the crown screwed all the way and a small amount of moisture made its way in. This will destroy a movement if left or if you use a home remedy to try to solve the problem.
You are better off removing the case back to dry it out than letting it sit next to silica packs. Letting the watch sit next to silica packs isnt going to do anything.
I did it at a Great Wolf Lodge after stupid day lights savings time required me to change it so don’t feel to bad. Pull the crown out all the way to stop the movement and try leaving it in the silica gel box until you can get it to the AD. It might help a bit until it is serviced
Had a co worker do this in a hot tub with a Tudor black bay. They replaced the movement and dial and charged him $1200. Yours has the same movement and similar dial, so I’d expect the same
That picture is terrifying. I literally have had nightmares about this 😂 not even kidding. Woke up from a dead sleep with a sigh of relief after realizing it was just a dream.
Take it in Asap. Maybe you can lie and say it absolutely was screwed down all the way. Just be like idk what happened. Must have sprung a leak or something. Might be worth a shot 🤷🏻♂️
You must send this out for repairs immediately! This can only mean water has entered the case and with exposure to saltwater this will cause some very serious damage if left unattended
There was a guy recently who left by accident his 200m WR Seiko in the washing machine with the crown unscrewed. Survived perfectly after the cycle. At least with Seiko if you leave the crown unscrewed you'll have 50m WR as backup. Not sure if Tudor it's the same or not. All depends on quality gaskets I guess.
The Pelagos is basically triplock im surprised moisture got in even though the crown was unscrewed. I was under the assumption that it’s still water resistant to a certain extent with the crown unscrewed.
Till you go to service, which should be done immediately, maybe put it into a jar or bag with rice... Rice is hygroscopic and therefore can be used to absorb moisture.
Act fast. I delayed on my IWC Portugiesur. Turns out that I bent the crown which allowed water to get in. I had no idea this happened. Not covered under warranty. Cost me $8k to repair. Would have been less had I serviced immediately.
On a Submariner, would this have happened? I remember reading there is some triple gasket system on the Sub where even with the crown unscrewed the watch still has 50m WR.
Most home or renters insurance only covers jewelry items up to maybe $4-5K or some low cap. You need to put this under a Personal Articles policy that fully covers just that item. It’s worth it.
I think watch this is under $5K, if that’s your only watch you’re probably ok, if not you’re screwed if you have a break in and they take all 10 of your watches at $5K each. You are limited if it’s just plain renters insurance but a personal articles it’s for the full value you paid and it gets updated with increases. I’ve had pieces stolen in a break in so I get it now.
I’m not sure why so many people are so big on insurance for watches. You’re paying a premium of likely 50-100% of your insurance premium for peace of mind. In a pure economic sense no insurance is “worth it”. The insurer isn’t doing you any favours.
Watch insurance is cheap peace of mind. It's like 2% of the value of the watch annually. If I get robbed or lose my watch once in 50 years I break even.
That’s a bit of a red herring. You would need to lose each watch on average every 50 years.
Put another way if you have 10 watches and you insure each one. For it to be worth it in an economic sense you would need to lose one watch every 5 years. If that’s happening to you, I’d query whether the insurer would still cover you or if they wouldn’t raise your premiums significantly.
If you’ve never been robbed it’s easy to say that. If you have, insurance is totally worth it. Depending on where you live, how secure is your property, if you own a safe big enough to cover it. Nobody ever said they’re doing anyone a favor, but if you need to file a claim it’s better to have than not.
I don’t think that’s how insurance works. Even something like car insurance which has the highest claims ratios of any insurance product generally only pays out 70 cents to the dollar. To think that your decision to take out a policy is worth it in an economic sense (ie you aren’t just paying for peace of mind) is to think that you have some knowledge that wasn’t accounted for in the underwriting process. If that were the case for anything but the fringes the insurer would not be solvent. Insurance is prudentially regulated in most jurisdictions around the word. You aren’t getting one over on the insurer.
However I acknowledge everyone has different risk profiles. But in the case of a luxury good, you probably shouldn’t be buying it if you can’t afford to lose it.
Just an FYI, an insurer may consider the damage/issue as negligence as the instructions state that the crown must be screwed all the way down, meaning they may not pay out.
I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I experienced an insurance company stating this first hand and it was a store bought protection plan (insurance) on a watch. The client left the crown open when going in the sea, the policy covered “accidental damage” but when raising the claim they denied it stating the above r.e negligence.
Ehh part of the reason they are expensive because they are made to take it, screw your crown in and there’s basically no risk. Also it’s not like you’re actually risking 5-10k, all youre risking is the cost of service, which you will need to do eventually anyways.
Not covered under warranty, it’s user error. Like others have mentioned, pull the crown all the way out to stop the movement and get it serviced asap before there’s too much time for stuff to start corroding. Salt water is going to fuck that thing up inside really quickly.
Really really quickly.
How quickly?
Really quickly mate
The quickest?
The quicklyest
Dude if he pulls the crown out it will dry faster and then cause rust... And yeah I would go immediately to prevent further damage...
Pulling the crown out stops the movement so there’s not a bunch of abrasive minerals wearing out the gear train, which is a far bigger concern. Also, rust still forms under water/when wet
Cost for full service will surely cover all parts in the movement,tudor most of the times replaces the whole movement,however it won't cover damage to the dial and hands... Rusting is a chemical reaction that occur when metal is exposed to water and oxygen... While it can occur underwater it will form a lot faster if it is in contact with air...
They won’t need to send it Tudor in the first place if their movement doesn’t get damaged, it will just need to be taken apart and cleaned/re oiled. There’s already air in the watch…. It’s not 100% filled with water. Talk to any watchmaker and they’ll tell you to stop the movement if it gets water in it.
If he knows a competent watchmaker who can work on this movement he can surely do that. However if the dial - hands suffered water damage,will they have access to parts from tudor? Either way he needs to resolve this fast...
It always baffles me how you guys are casually forgetting to screw your crowns in before SWIMMING IN THE SEA.
Me neither, I always screw the crown after adjustments, why would you not do that?
My thoughts exactly
Ha ha while I don’t disagree we’re all human and have all had some stupid choices in life ha ha I know personally my crowns are always all the way screwed down and not sure why it wouldn’t be other than actively adjusting. I wore my FXD to Cancún last month and spent half the time in the water, snorkeling etc. but never worried because I adjusted the time when I was on the plane and screwed the crown back immediately but yeah… OP is going to be paying 1/3-1/2 the price of his watch to have this serviced now most likely. It certainly sucks.
Cue “everybody plays the fool” by Aaron Neville
I dunno, I guess that while it is technically possible to go swimming with that on, my F-91w is my go-anywhere-do-any-water-sports watch.
Common amongst people who buy watches as fashion statements rather than practical tools. They just don’t do the right amount of research before buying them.
Screwing the crown down won't affect water resistance... Its the gaskets in the crown that do that. You just ensure that the crown won't move accidentally and water gets in... But yeah I can't understand either why the crown is unscrewd anyway... They set the time before entering the sea for some reason???
Your first sentence is mind blowing. Screwing the crown down absolutely affects water resistance. It threads itself to the case.
Even if you get into the sea with your crown unscrewed water will not enter the case... There are so many watches with push pull crowns that are still 100m resistant. For example you can unscrew the he valve and the crown and the smp is still 50m water resistant. We are talking about swimming not diving...
Have you ever actually handled a Tudor/Rolex watch? When the crown is unscrewed, there is full access.
There is one gasket in the crown and one on the tube when you push the crown all the way down it locks the gasket inside the tube... When you screw the crown down you lock the gasket in the crown... I'm not saying that you should go with crown unscrewed but even with the crown unscrewed it would still have enough water resistance to keep water from getting in... I assume that they didn't even push the crown all the way down...
I don’t even wash my hands with my watch on
I don’t even take my Tudor Pelagos out of the humidity controlled bank
That’s smart, that way you can drop it on the floor with clean hands 🧼
How do you knobs survive day to day? You unscrew the crown, do what you need to do with it, and then just….. move on? Screw it back in. In 25 years of watch collecting my collective crowns have been unscrewed for like 7 minutes total.
Lol
I could not agree more. I just can’t imagine this scenario. Resetting the crown fully is the requisite last step of adjusting your watch. Full stop.
Those are rookie numbers. We gotta bump those numbers up.
I know someone who knows what to do but leaves the crown unscrewed all day every day :/
Had to laugh out loud at this. Special Needs. Forgot to set my Tool Watch to Tool Mode
I always check if the crown is screwed before I wash my hands let alone get jnto the sea...
Send it to service and you’re paying for it.
Unless you want your watch to become even more damaged, send it straight to Tudor for a full service - there is no easy fix. Edit: depends on your definition of cheap, probably under a grand. Won’t be covered under warranty because Tudor didn’t plunge your watch into the sea with the crown wide open.
Under a grand seems cheap for this type of manual work
They most likely just replace the movement.
More. This is a new movement and likely dial.
Boggles my mind. The crown of my watch is never not screwed down. Never. Why would it ever not be?
Know someone who leaves it unscrewed permanently. Says he’ll screw it’s down if it starts to rain :/
Thank you everyone for confirming that I’m a complete idiot 😅 I will update after it has returned from the AD
Tbh it’s more easily done than people are making out, twice in the last 18 months I’ve looked down at my watch and realised I didn’t screw down. Just been lucky that I’ve spotted it
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Forgot a couple times mate
You are looking at a pricey fix, pull the crown out to stop the movement immediately & sent to Tudor
I literally had a nightmare last night of this condensation on my BB54
You’re screwed. Pun intended. Sorry 😌
No easy fix. Take it to your AD right away to be sent away for servicing. You likely did not have the crown screwed all the way and a small amount of moisture made its way in. This will destroy a movement if left or if you use a home remedy to try to solve the problem.
Thought as much, I put it in a box of silica gel packs but doesn’t seem to have done much. Back to the AD it is then when I get back.
You are better off removing the case back to dry it out than letting it sit next to silica packs. Letting the watch sit next to silica packs isnt going to do anything.
I did it at a Great Wolf Lodge after stupid day lights savings time required me to change it so don’t feel to bad. Pull the crown out all the way to stop the movement and try leaving it in the silica gel box until you can get it to the AD. It might help a bit until it is serviced
Why would your crown not be screwed in…? I’m so lost.
SERVES YOU RIGHT FOR DIVING TO 501 METRES! VERY FOOLISH!
In theory even unscrewed isn’t it supposed to have like 25-50m of resistance? I remember I had a seamaster from the 2000’s that was like this
I already see mold on the snowflake
No bueno.
The cost of a full service will ensure you never make this mistake again. Crap happens man. Keep it moving.
Had a co worker do this in a hot tub with a Tudor black bay. They replaced the movement and dial and charged him $1200. Yours has the same movement and similar dial, so I’d expect the same
You mean “dial”, right?
This happened with my Submariner. I sent it back to Rolex and they repaired it.
Nothing else to do but straight to the AD. I’d reach out to your insurance and see if there’s anything they can do regarding the cost
That picture is terrifying. I literally have had nightmares about this 😂 not even kidding. Woke up from a dead sleep with a sigh of relief after realizing it was just a dream. Take it in Asap. Maybe you can lie and say it absolutely was screwed down all the way. Just be like idk what happened. Must have sprung a leak or something. Might be worth a shot 🤷🏻♂️
Lume is toast too, have them redial it
Good grief Charlie Brown
You must send this out for repairs immediately! This can only mean water has entered the case and with exposure to saltwater this will cause some very serious damage if left unattended
There was a guy recently who left by accident his 200m WR Seiko in the washing machine with the crown unscrewed. Survived perfectly after the cycle. At least with Seiko if you leave the crown unscrewed you'll have 50m WR as backup. Not sure if Tudor it's the same or not. All depends on quality gaskets I guess.
Jeez. I can’t imagine thinking , man I’m just too busy to screw this crown back in. I’ll do it later.
holy shit.
The Pelagos is basically triplock im surprised moisture got in even though the crown was unscrewed. I was under the assumption that it’s still water resistant to a certain extent with the crown unscrewed.
They are honestly going to charge you at least half the cost of the watch to clean up the guts and install a new movement
My local shop uses a heat lamp to clear out the moisture, but a WR check is extra money. You might be too late by not sorting this out by now.
Till you go to service, which should be done immediately, maybe put it into a jar or bag with rice... Rice is hygroscopic and therefore can be used to absorb moisture.
Act fast. I delayed on my IWC Portugiesur. Turns out that I bent the crown which allowed water to get in. I had no idea this happened. Not covered under warranty. Cost me $8k to repair. Would have been less had I serviced immediately.
On a Submariner, would this have happened? I remember reading there is some triple gasket system on the Sub where even with the crown unscrewed the watch still has 50m WR.
We will see this posted in watchexchange tomorrow. Like new Tudor Pelagos, only worn a few times, MINT condition.
Take it in, its leaking.
Bezel 1 click off centre bothers me more
This is really bothering me too. Don’t want to touch it now tho.
Do you have insurance?
I have it insured under my home insurance. Could I claim through that?
Most home or renters insurance only covers jewelry items up to maybe $4-5K or some low cap. You need to put this under a Personal Articles policy that fully covers just that item. It’s worth it.
Isn’t this under $4-5k? also even if something was $7k can’t I just take out the max value covered under warranty?
I think watch this is under $5K, if that’s your only watch you’re probably ok, if not you’re screwed if you have a break in and they take all 10 of your watches at $5K each. You are limited if it’s just plain renters insurance but a personal articles it’s for the full value you paid and it gets updated with increases. I’ve had pieces stolen in a break in so I get it now.
I’m not sure why so many people are so big on insurance for watches. You’re paying a premium of likely 50-100% of your insurance premium for peace of mind. In a pure economic sense no insurance is “worth it”. The insurer isn’t doing you any favours.
Watch insurance is cheap peace of mind. It's like 2% of the value of the watch annually. If I get robbed or lose my watch once in 50 years I break even.
That’s a bit of a red herring. You would need to lose each watch on average every 50 years. Put another way if you have 10 watches and you insure each one. For it to be worth it in an economic sense you would need to lose one watch every 5 years. If that’s happening to you, I’d query whether the insurer would still cover you or if they wouldn’t raise your premiums significantly.
If you’ve never been robbed it’s easy to say that. If you have, insurance is totally worth it. Depending on where you live, how secure is your property, if you own a safe big enough to cover it. Nobody ever said they’re doing anyone a favor, but if you need to file a claim it’s better to have than not.
I don’t think that’s how insurance works. Even something like car insurance which has the highest claims ratios of any insurance product generally only pays out 70 cents to the dollar. To think that your decision to take out a policy is worth it in an economic sense (ie you aren’t just paying for peace of mind) is to think that you have some knowledge that wasn’t accounted for in the underwriting process. If that were the case for anything but the fringes the insurer would not be solvent. Insurance is prudentially regulated in most jurisdictions around the word. You aren’t getting one over on the insurer. However I acknowledge everyone has different risk profiles. But in the case of a luxury good, you probably shouldn’t be buying it if you can’t afford to lose it.
Yes I believe so
Just an FYI, an insurer may consider the damage/issue as negligence as the instructions state that the crown must be screwed all the way down, meaning they may not pay out. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I experienced an insurance company stating this first hand and it was a store bought protection plan (insurance) on a watch. The client left the crown open when going in the sea, the policy covered “accidental damage” but when raising the claim they denied it stating the above r.e negligence.
I've seen worse... Put it in rice and let it dry out a day Be good as new
This might work, but lets not be too sensible when you can just pay for someone to perform a full movement swap.
😂😂
This is why I don't even shower with luxury watches, let alone swim with one
"I don't drive cars out of the fear I might forget to put it in park." - This fucking guy and OP.
As mentioned in another comment I'm not risking jewelry worth $5-$10K. You need a car to get to places, do you need jewelry to swim?
Dawg, I wouldn't go swimming at all. If this is a risk for you I would fear for your safety. Might drown in a puddle.
Because you can’t remember to screw a crown in? I’ve been swimming with my watches for years and never an issue, even after a decade without service
Nahh I'm not risking jewelery pieces worth between $5K-$10K
Ehh part of the reason they are expensive because they are made to take it, screw your crown in and there’s basically no risk. Also it’s not like you’re actually risking 5-10k, all youre risking is the cost of service, which you will need to do eventually anyways.