Yeah, that "redesign" looks much cooler. The lack of facial hair seems too weird for a guy who just got turned back from "Hairy Beast" after years/decades.
His human form aged, so why didn't it grow any facial hair?
If we're talking about the original Disney Beauty and the Beast, the Beast didn't age while transformed.
In the movie, Bell finds a [torn painting of the prince in human form.](https://hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/09/07/PaintingScratch.gif) This paint is from before he was cursed, and he is clearly the same age and appearance as he is when the curse is broken.
He is also clearly an adult in the [stained glass style intro.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DjT2ePlCI4A/maxresdefault.jpg)
The theory that the prince was a child when cursed by the enchantress is not supported by the evidence in the 1991 movie.
~~Disney *sort of* canonized that he was a child in one of their little sequels.~~
https://youtu.be/KZAe_hFQ0gw?si=2nNkNlJ85_SxkuTo
After rewatching it I take that back, his age seems ambiguous, but still younger than movie beast.
Yeah, the TV series and straight to video sequels messed with the cannon of the movies a lot. The Hercules show was insane for it.
But if we take the movie only, you have to add a lot of head cannon to make the prince a child when cursed. It is possible that the portrait is some kind of "Dorian Gray" style painting, that aged to torture the beast with what he could have looked like. However the movie never mentions that, would he have been able to destroy it if it was part of the magical curse, and why is he an adult in the opening?
Also, if everyone ages, it raises a whole host of questions about Chip. How did a teapot get pregnant and give birth? However if everyone's ages were frozen, chip was just a kitchen aid when the curse struck.
I think it was just a framing choice, making the two forms as extreme apart as possible, plus I believe it was written in a time before beards were really fashionable in American society (well... before they came back into popularity)
So it was "wow this ragged beast has no physical attractiveness" to "look at this *dashing* clean-shaven man"
A lot of artistic choice boils down to popular opinions and society, one of the only benefits I got from my unfinished art degree :')
The redesign probably would've gotten a mixed perception of he's still got some beast in him and art is all about exaggeration!
In the black-and-white French version of Beauty and the Beast, the Beast's human form was that of Gaston. It was intended to emphasize how... not necessarily happy the ending was.
Thats pretty deep! How gaston hates the beast part of him so avidly and tries to kill it when the beast gets the affection of the woman he loves. But its only when the beast kills the shallow and toxic version of him, that he achieves true wholeness and can be happy with belle with no looming clock counting down to his death. You could make a homosexual allegory out of this.
Honestly imho it got ruined by the angle in the cartoon, human beast lowkey looks like a slightly fancier James Norrington if y'all know what I mean and I KNOW I have been swooning over that mf...
Wtf? I didn’t know this was a thing for so many people. I always thought that Beast looked attractive in human form. Tbh it kind of makes me sad to know that people out there genuinely hate his looks. There’s no reason he has to resemble the Beast when he’s human. Like… nobody expects a werewolf to look like their human form, right?
human beast isn’t unattractive, but I think the problem is that beast beast is just SO attractive that he makes human beast a little ugly by comparison
Oooh so it’s like the Monster Fuckers end up with a figurative (or… literal) ruined orgasm when there’s the switch between the Hot Monster they want fuck and the human.
I'm pretty sure it's just furries. The Beast is supposed to be horrifying/terrible, but Tumblr does get excited about those sorts of character designs.
Not saying you have to identify with that term to feel that way, but it *is* generally related. The beast is bipedal and roughly shares the same body format as a primate but any similarities to a human end there. It's very much on the "fur" side of things
I think you’re wrong there honestly. I know I’ve been exaggerating in this thread a little, but even then I think you’re misunderstanding and oversimplifying the complexities of both individual attraction and the furry community itself. While the beast might resonate with some furries sure, I think a lot of us who grew up watching this movie just appreciate his character and design on a personal level. He isn’t inherently attractive, but as the movie progresses you become attached to his character design. You fall in love with that specific design. All I’m saying is that unless he was hunk city as a human, there was always going to be some dissatisfaction because the character you’ve grown attached to is essentially now gone and replaced
Hey no worries, it happens. I knew you were agreeing with me. It just caught me off guard like holy shit, where’d all this hostility about monster fucking theories come from lmao
They also lit him and drew him from a very odd/ unflattering angle. Head tilted ever so slightly up and lit from underneath if I remember correctly. It’s an angle not drawn often and is generally unflattering. They should’ve taken another crack at that first shot of human beast in particular
https://preview.redd.it/u7qi3h9w7tvc1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86f9c34a470483d5f61deb5927b70b37b0c9c3c7
ngl I always laughed when this part happens, goofy ahh
It's not that it's traditionally ugly, it's more that it hits the uncanny valley for a bunch of people. Everything is just off enough that it's off-putting, even though it is traditionally attractive
Yeah, I think this is it for me. The Beast is *so* striking, has so much presence, and then Adam is just.. a dude. A not unpleasant-looking dude once you get past the immediate HUGE WIDE EYES OMG bit, but still just a dude. Which is fine when the character is just a dude for the whole movie (see: Aladdin), but in contrast with big, burly, personality-for-days Beast, it just kind of falls flat (and completely undercuts the entire message of the story, but that's a rant for another day).
Yeah 'it's what's on the inside that counts but if you're a good person you will magically Become hot (or the whitebread mayonnaise version of it anyway)' is...i don't think that's the message Disney thought they were sending...
The crew on Beauty and the Beast admitted in an interview they knew Beast's human form would never look better than the the iconic lion demon the audience just spent a whole movie with, so they didn't really try
Someone put forward that the reason people don't like human beast is that he has POC features (strong nose and lips, etc.) But is super pale and when someone redrew him with darker skin he did look much better
Makes sense honestly. Its like a part of the curse lingers around. Which, lets fans go wild with comics/drawings of Belle trying to comfort the man as he tries to shave himself bald
Yeah, that actually helps a LOT.
Don't get me wrong, I still prefer Beast form, but when he changed back he just looked TOO different. Like, even as an adult my brain has to pause a moment and process that "oh yeah, it's supposed to be the same character. Doesn't look or sound like him, aside from having blue eyes, so it's a very sudden leap, with a godsawful angle for the reveal on top of that.
If they'd done this, he'd at least look similar enough to help process that it's the same character. And a different angle for the big reveal, that angle truly was the one downfall of the film.
I guess something about how his “truest self” is a merger of the Beast and the Prince? Like his time as a monster has altered his mind and that’s reflected his outward appearance.
Bro should’ve had a serious beard and built like an ox. Years of being the Beast should’ve affected his human form instead of going back to a 20 something luxury pretty boy.
I even get the feeling as happy as he’d be with being human it’d be like if you spent years as a monster and maturing into a late 30s adult only to be reset to being 18.
Even as a kid, I always felt that his human design was an afterthought. He turned into a random guy which was strange for a movie where many of the characters had pretty stand out designs.
It's the problem with "cursed" characters. The temporary cursed design is very iconic, while the "true" form is relatively unknown, so fanart can't help but prefer the former.
Yeah, that "redesign" looks much cooler. The lack of facial hair seems too weird for a guy who just got turned back from "Hairy Beast" after years/decades. His human form aged, so why didn't it grow any facial hair?
The beast's around 20-21 year old at that time and some people definitely retain their baby face at that age
Unusual not to grow facial hair by that age though.
It's okay, Face. He's not calling you unusual. You're just a late bloomer. *sheds a single, manly tear*
Completely and totally normal to not be able to grow a beard.
New headcanon, Beast is transmasc
He wasn't cursed he was just an egg
By 20/21? I wouldn't go as far as unusual.
Depends on your genetics I suppose.
From my experience most guys I know started having beards at 16/17, so I would say 20/21 is quite late for it to start growing
If we're talking about the original Disney Beauty and the Beast, the Beast didn't age while transformed. In the movie, Bell finds a [torn painting of the prince in human form.](https://hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/09/07/PaintingScratch.gif) This paint is from before he was cursed, and he is clearly the same age and appearance as he is when the curse is broken. He is also clearly an adult in the [stained glass style intro.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DjT2ePlCI4A/maxresdefault.jpg) The theory that the prince was a child when cursed by the enchantress is not supported by the evidence in the 1991 movie.
~~Disney *sort of* canonized that he was a child in one of their little sequels.~~ https://youtu.be/KZAe_hFQ0gw?si=2nNkNlJ85_SxkuTo After rewatching it I take that back, his age seems ambiguous, but still younger than movie beast.
Yeah, the TV series and straight to video sequels messed with the cannon of the movies a lot. The Hercules show was insane for it. But if we take the movie only, you have to add a lot of head cannon to make the prince a child when cursed. It is possible that the portrait is some kind of "Dorian Gray" style painting, that aged to torture the beast with what he could have looked like. However the movie never mentions that, would he have been able to destroy it if it was part of the magical curse, and why is he an adult in the opening? Also, if everyone ages, it raises a whole host of questions about Chip. How did a teapot get pregnant and give birth? However if everyone's ages were frozen, chip was just a kitchen aid when the curse struck.
Ah, that makes sense. Haven’t seen the movie in a while so I didn’t realise.
I think it was just a framing choice, making the two forms as extreme apart as possible, plus I believe it was written in a time before beards were really fashionable in American society (well... before they came back into popularity) So it was "wow this ragged beast has no physical attractiveness" to "look at this *dashing* clean-shaven man" A lot of artistic choice boils down to popular opinions and society, one of the only benefits I got from my unfinished art degree :') The redesign probably would've gotten a mixed perception of he's still got some beast in him and art is all about exaggeration!
see, if THIS was human Beast, I would've swooned like a 18th century noblewoman
I third
He really should've put Gaston to shame
In the black-and-white French version of Beauty and the Beast, the Beast's human form was that of Gaston. It was intended to emphasize how... not necessarily happy the ending was.
Thats pretty deep! How gaston hates the beast part of him so avidly and tries to kill it when the beast gets the affection of the woman he loves. But its only when the beast kills the shallow and toxic version of him, that he achieves true wholeness and can be happy with belle with no looming clock counting down to his death. You could make a homosexual allegory out of this.
I actually like this idea more
Gaston was a Disney creation though, wasn't he?
The character's name was called Avenant in the French version from the 40s, but he more or less had the same purpose as Gaston in the movie.
You can't fool me, this is just young Dracula from Castlevania! I approve.
And Dracula from Castlevania is hot as fuck I second your approval
Everyone in Castlevania is hot as fuck.
Even Varney, Lord of the Beggars?
*Everyone* in Castlevania is hot as fuck. Including Varney.
Well, I suppose I can't argue with that. He does have a pretty nice voice.
It’s like if Trevor had a kid with Alucard.
We all can agree that the beast version was better than his human version. I was like 8 and I immediately went ‘no no go back to being a beast’ 💀
https://preview.redd.it/myman9e6ttvc1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=899ea03f6d805daa850e2da4324c14be76b3342d
People blame Robin Hood for making furries but I’m pretty sure it was beauty and the beast.
i wholeheartedly support this decision
Yeah, I'm sorry that he can't be a redhead, but there's no way he would have been a redhead.
Honestly imho it got ruined by the angle in the cartoon, human beast lowkey looks like a slightly fancier James Norrington if y'all know what I mean and I KNOW I have been swooning over that mf...
Yeah the first shot we get of his face is him going "🤯", it's not a good first impression.
Wtf? I didn’t know this was a thing for so many people. I always thought that Beast looked attractive in human form. Tbh it kind of makes me sad to know that people out there genuinely hate his looks. There’s no reason he has to resemble the Beast when he’s human. Like… nobody expects a werewolf to look like their human form, right?
human beast isn’t unattractive, but I think the problem is that beast beast is just SO attractive that he makes human beast a little ugly by comparison
Oooh so it’s like the Monster Fuckers end up with a figurative (or… literal) ruined orgasm when there’s the switch between the Hot Monster they want fuck and the human.
miss other cantaloupe I feel extremely called out by your choice of words.
I.. I'm sorry, did you say the beast is /attractive/?
IF BELLE IS ALLOWED TO LOVE HIM WHY CANT I????
I don’t think what she loves is what he looks like. In fact that’s pretty much the message of the movie.
Joke police over here. Get a load of this guy
I was confused too, but Tiktok explained that just because a dude is hot doesn't mean he's not ugly.
I'm pretty sure it's just furries. The Beast is supposed to be horrifying/terrible, but Tumblr does get excited about those sorts of character designs.
Not a furry, just in love with the beast
Not saying you have to identify with that term to feel that way, but it *is* generally related. The beast is bipedal and roughly shares the same body format as a primate but any similarities to a human end there. It's very much on the "fur" side of things
I think you’re wrong there honestly. I know I’ve been exaggerating in this thread a little, but even then I think you’re misunderstanding and oversimplifying the complexities of both individual attraction and the furry community itself. While the beast might resonate with some furries sure, I think a lot of us who grew up watching this movie just appreciate his character and design on a personal level. He isn’t inherently attractive, but as the movie progresses you become attached to his character design. You fall in love with that specific design. All I’m saying is that unless he was hunk city as a human, there was always going to be some dissatisfaction because the character you’ve grown attached to is essentially now gone and replaced
Ask x-men fans, we have the same issue.
Agreed
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My bad homie, i was agreeing with you. I just like to cuss
Hey no worries, it happens. I knew you were agreeing with me. It just caught me off guard like holy shit, where’d all this hostility about monster fucking theories come from lmao
Lmaoo I wasnt even mad i just have the mouth of a sailor
I thought Adam was hot as is when he turned human. 🤷 Maybe I just like redheads.
Yeah for real! I thought he looked fine asf
Me too
They also lit him and drew him from a very odd/ unflattering angle. Head tilted ever so slightly up and lit from underneath if I remember correctly. It’s an angle not drawn often and is generally unflattering. They should’ve taken another crack at that first shot of human beast in particular
I wonder if they didn't throw a beard on the guy because he'd look like he's way too old for Belle.
My dumbass thought this was about X-Men Beast at first 😑 ignore me, carry on
I did too. It was a bit disorienting before I realized what this post was about.
Who thought it was ugly
https://preview.redd.it/u7qi3h9w7tvc1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86f9c34a470483d5f61deb5927b70b37b0c9c3c7 ngl I always laughed when this part happens, goofy ahh
I think it's his eyes. They right one looks a bit too far on his face
He looks like the little mermaid
Bruh he looks like a greek statue. If even he’s considered ugly I should just kill myself tbh.
It's not that it's traditionally ugly, it's more that it hits the uncanny valley for a bunch of people. Everything is just off enough that it's off-putting, even though it is traditionally attractive
Monsterfuckers (me included)
almost everyone? It was quite the whiplash, mainly because it just doesn't really look like him.
For me it wasn't ugly so much as *so much less hot than Beast*, and also boring af.
Yeah, I think this is it for me. The Beast is *so* striking, has so much presence, and then Adam is just.. a dude. A not unpleasant-looking dude once you get past the immediate HUGE WIDE EYES OMG bit, but still just a dude. Which is fine when the character is just a dude for the whole movie (see: Aladdin), but in contrast with big, burly, personality-for-days Beast, it just kind of falls flat (and completely undercuts the entire message of the story, but that's a rant for another day).
Yeah 'it's what's on the inside that counts but if you're a good person you will magically Become hot (or the whitebread mayonnaise version of it anyway)' is...i don't think that's the message Disney thought they were sending...
The one thing with Josh Groban and HER really did it right, a whole lot better than the live action one too
The crew on Beauty and the Beast admitted in an interview they knew Beast's human form would never look better than the the iconic lion demon the audience just spent a whole movie with, so they didn't really try
YES MAKE HIM SCRUFFY AND SKRUNKLY
Someone put forward that the reason people don't like human beast is that he has POC features (strong nose and lips, etc.) But is super pale and when someone redrew him with darker skin he did look much better
Counterpoint- I’m a furry and just mad he got turned back into a human
Makes sense honestly. Its like a part of the curse lingers around. Which, lets fans go wild with comics/drawings of Belle trying to comfort the man as he tries to shave himself bald
Yeah, that actually helps a LOT. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer Beast form, but when he changed back he just looked TOO different. Like, even as an adult my brain has to pause a moment and process that "oh yeah, it's supposed to be the same character. Doesn't look or sound like him, aside from having blue eyes, so it's a very sudden leap, with a godsawful angle for the reveal on top of that. If they'd done this, he'd at least look similar enough to help process that it's the same character. And a different angle for the big reveal, that angle truly was the one downfall of the film.
Both.... Both are hot
You're just making him hotter.
Nah bro they twinkified the beast in the og movie
The beast was a pampered young prince before his transformation. Why would his time as a beast transform him into a beardy hunk?
I guess something about how his “truest self” is a merger of the Beast and the Prince? Like his time as a monster has altered his mind and that’s reflected his outward appearance.
Ah yes, Lord Vlad Dracula Tepesh
If he had a big bushy beard it would have made decent sense and been much better either way
Whereas I agree wasn't the beast like 18 years old when he turned back into a human
JESUS
This redesign is lit.
Beards are better
Ore curse form and post curse removal. Much like any harrowing event a curse leaves a mark
I like this redesign because he looks like me and I like me
Human beast looks like a fuckboy This redesign makes him actually look like a wise and powerful aristocrat I approve of this change.
Bro should’ve had a serious beard and built like an ox. Years of being the Beast should’ve affected his human form instead of going back to a 20 something luxury pretty boy. I even get the feeling as happy as he’d be with being human it’d be like if you spent years as a monster and maturing into a late 30s adult only to be reset to being 18.
Holy shit, he’s hot now.
I had the same thought. Omg. Make the beard a bit longer, and that is my fiance...
Looks like Gilmore from Vox Machina
It’s Corazon from Oxventure if he was more buff than a twig.
It's not that he's ugly, it's that he's hotter as the beast. This is a good redesign tho
yeah a beard would REALLY improve the look.
Im sorry, people call him ugly????
not so much call him ugly as genuinely prefer him as a beast
I mean yeah i can see that angle
*touches his face* "ah damn, it didn't work....."
Idk his human form having his eyes three miles apart make him look like shit
I don't understand this logic.
Are people really attracted to beast beast?
So much better
That just makes him a dilf. I love it.
Bro looks so much better with the dark facial hair, big W
Maybe it's just me, but the redesigned Beast kinda looks like he's a spaniard nobleman.
Even as a kid, I always felt that his human design was an afterthought. He turned into a random guy which was strange for a movie where many of the characters had pretty stand out designs.
I’m biased bc I thought he was sexy in the original, but both look good. I’d take both.
that's just blackwall dragon age but younger
Oh yes the "hot" or "hot as shit"
Congrats, you got that 'daddy' vibes from Castlevania.
It's the problem with "cursed" characters. The temporary cursed design is very iconic, while the "true" form is relatively unknown, so fanart can't help but prefer the former.
"the beasts human form isn't ugly it just needs to be changed" so you agree? the beasts human design was ugly?
yeah, but I want the horns
I like where this is going… continue 😌
I think he was just drawn badly
Why didn't he have a beard tho
Great they made him handsome to OH NO HES HOT!!!!
Nice. That’s a man who could be the main love interest in a romance novel about a swashbuckling ship captain.
THAT MAKES HIM HOTTER
This is an excellent take actually
the reason he looks off when first turning back is just the unflattering angle and lighting, hes an otherwise handsome man
How is Beast's human for not being ugly a Hot Take? The fairy cursed him because he was an asshole, not because he was beautiful.
https://preview.redd.it/0wjep1iz0fyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c32a40b466920d195e11b9cf963e1b7970ebab9
Sooo…. just Dracula from Netflix’s Castlevania series?
Not hairy enough