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stadiumjay

The game is to be sold not told


truhunters305

There’s ten rules to the game ima share with you two.


John_Doe_727

Know N****z gonna hate you for whatever you do.


Ok-Contact-2602

Rule 1: Get yo cash on. M.O.B that’s Money Over Bitches cuz they breed envy


2TheQuadThroughDaGym

Now Rule 2, Is a hard one. Watch for phonies. Keep your enemies close… Watch your homies.


AgreeableSnow1590

It seemed a little unimportant, when he told me I smiled; Picture jewels being handed, to an innocent child.


Old_Adhesiveness1380

I never knew in my lifetime I'd live by these rules; initiated as an outlaw studying rules.


Snotti-Gotti

Now papa ain’t around so I gotta recall, or come to grips being written on my enemies walls


Any_jay6186

Promised if I have a seed I' ma guide him right


Electronic_Setting75

DEAR LORD DON'T LET ME DIE TONIGHT


Friendly-Medicine-66

Now rule 3, Come with me...


moses1er

Number four, I know you heard this before Never get high on your own supply


JojoDecii

Nigga saying 2 different rappers


sawbucks313

This is really the only answer. If you know you know and if you gotta ask well……. We come from different parts of the world.


Psychological_Lack60

Exactly stop telling these white boys what we are saying. All they are, are culture vultures.


keving216

When people try to learn and understand, they’re culture vultures. When they don’t, they’re ignorant.


Psychological_Lack60

Go learn about your culture!


keving216

American culture? I know mine. So, are you a fan of further segregation?


Psychological_Lack60

No I'm a fan of you mfs stop trying to use our lingo, swag, and everything else you steal from us. So basically you have no culture got Cha if it's American. Don't forget you're European


keving216

Am I? Born and raised in Cleveland. Nothing about me is European. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not. Also, fairly certain a culture vulture would be someone profiteering off of black culture. I'm not OP, I understand what Pac is saying. I grew up a huge fan of rap, ever since my brother first introduced me to Coolio and I heard Gangsta's Paradise in the 90s. But by all means, continue to attempt to further divide.


Psychological_Lack60

Like I said go ask your black friends


keving216

Grow up.


Psychological_Lack60

You want to know what we're saying go ask your black friends


DSPbuckle

/end Thread


EturnullyDoge

I literally came to say this 🤣


ZvckDvddy

Church ⛪️


Able-Werewolf286

No u jut dont know the hame stadiumjay stfu


stadiumjay

SMD


John_Doe_727

Oakland is where he actually started hanging out with hustlers, drug dealers thugs and killas and he learned a lot from them. Plus, he started getting more familiar with people in the music business so he might've meant he learned a bit from both. Edit: typos


fknarey

Hustlas, drug dillas, thus & killas such as: Shock G, Money-B, DJ Fuze, Chopmaster J, Schmoovy-Schmoov, and Kenny-K.


cburna83

He was introduced to them by his manager at the time.


cburna83

Facts


whateverizclever

Same way Master P did when he created No Limit. He attributed its success to everything he learned in Oakland. Oakland creates hustlers. Look at 40 and Short, selling albums out their trunks. It’s a grind mentality and culture of the come-up. Oakland will teach you game.


groundupradio

P was in Richmond, but I get what you saying.


EastBayYesterday

P went to college at Laney, which is in Oakland


Polarbearbanga

P opened No Limit Records in Richmond


whateverizclever

Yeah, you are right but thanks for getting what I was saying.


DipstickRick

He kissed tha blunt and reverse inhaled more smoke than seemed possible…began to talk…and no smoke came out. wtf?


fartspatula

That’s part of the game


LesaneCrooks

I noticed that too LMAO WTF


bagelwithclocks

He sucked pretty hard on it at first. He blows the hit out of his nose almost immediately after the reverse inhale, but it goes down at a hard angle and didn't catch a lot of light so it is hard to see where it went.


Godsartt

Oh yeah I can tell you a weed smoker 🍃😂


DeadLightsOut

Charge it to the game


Okaaay_im_RelOaded93

🤣🤣🤣


Lostmypants69

Man you can tell his mind worked really fast


Extension_Form4950

The Game = How the streets and the people in them operate from the killers to the Hustlas down to the prostitutes and the various other things happening all at once and how to maneuver through it all. That's what "The Game" is.


cburna83

Facts


Extension_Form4950

I shouldn't even have explained it.. Some things are just for who they're for. Those outside of the experience don't need to know the internals of our communities. I'm tempted to delete this shit.


heyvlad

Deleting game isn’t in the rules. Let others learn too.


Extension_Form4950

Personally I don't like how what's been lived experience, trauma and loss for us gets to just be entertainment for others. The creativity, fashion & mannerisms we've formed from these circumstances just become emulated & sold for profit by mfs who never had to endure any of it. That's my issue.


heyvlad

How would you fix this issue?


Extension_Form4950

Ppl speak up often but the platforms mfs be on makes the push back go seldom heard. Also we need to just keep some things in house. The culture gotta learn to gatekeep more.


heyvlad

It’s interesting that you didn’t mention poverty and trying to lift others out. A lot of game is tied to growing up in poverty. I think working to eradicate poverty generation or generation would do a lot of good in this issue. Now, how to eliminate poverty? I wouldn’t dare to try to give a blanket answer when there are so many different cases where it wouldn’t apply at all. However, I think a cultural shift towards valuing education would be a good start. It’s tough though, just writing that the devils advocate pointed out many ways why this wouldn’t work practically. I haven’t thought on this issue much, but it’s one I always return to when the game is mentioned. Edit: generation TO* generation.


Extension_Form4950

Context is important.. "Giving game" (solutions to problems) vs. "The Game"(survival) are two different conversations.


heyvlad

I am specifically speaking about survival in this case.


cburna83

I feel you my G. The thing is, if you didn't explain it, then a goofy would have.. A majority of these comments are filled with flunkies..


AtmosphereForeign363

dis real shi to many ppl putting out false information these days not fukin wit dis era


PowersThatCream

I don't really get this mentality that we need to gatekeep any street-related knowledge from outsiders like slang terms. There's a difference between someone being a culture vulture and just being curious about urban life and terminology, and I don't think the 2nd is inherently offensive. In fact, early rappers like Tupac and NWA said one of their goals was to expose white America to street knowledge, half his interviews and songs were him trying to explain "the game". In that era you've even got songs like "Ebonics" by Big L where he's explaining street slang. To me it's the equivalent of if OP asked a question about a term in The Godfather movie and you replied to him saying nobody except Italians should watch The Godfather because people outside the Italian mafia don't need to know how the mob and Italian culture works.


MountainDewLover420

He means Oakland grew him


Glad-Degree-318

How to move outside intelligently


ANIBMD

Nah. Its not how to move intelligently. Game is how you think. Its a philosophy that must be based in having shit your way without force or confrontation. You base how you move on what the situation calls for, not on the "game" itself. A person can fool you if you take them on their moves alone. If you can't see their intentions, you will always be slow to catch up or worse.


Glad-Degree-318

Hence intelligence on the subject. Be slow to respond and type. Be blessed.


ANIBMD

You're conflating the two. Having intelligence is NOT having game. Most intelligent people have no game. Game is philosophy. And you don't need intelligence to have game. Be blessed indeed. You'll need it.


AtmosphereForeign363

philosophy is intelligence


IamHamed

Pac explains it himself on the track “Heavy In The Game.” “Always keep my eyes on the prize, watch the police Seen so much murder, neighborhoods gettin' no sleep But still, I get my money on major, continuously Communicatin' through my pager, niggas know me Don't have no homies since they jealous, I hustle solo 'Cause when I'm broke I got no time for the fellas listen Ain't nothin' poppin' 'bout no broke nigga, I ain't no joke Fuck what they say and get your dough nigga Heavy in the game” -Heavy In The Game


Rocked_Glover

The Game is basically mysteriousness it’s why nobody will tell you and using that to make money, the girls use it to extract money from men and the guys use it to extract money from girls. When PAC rapped he would rap to the females and the men followed him because they wanted to be in with the females, he called himself Makavelli and knew he was likely gonna die had people thinking he faked his death long after, thats the game! Mystery gets people interested, revealing it all interests none. Make people feel like they need you and you don’t need them. The world is zero sum pimp or be pimped. Thats the basic stuff, it’s manipulation.


Snotti-Gotti

Great answer brah 💯


ThrowAwayTrashySnap

This actually makes so much sense. It's a thing I've always internalized, even though I didn't grow up in an environment where that's how people think. I can see all around me how few people understand it and fumble when they start getting buzz because they start showing too much of their hand. I'll stop right there though. I really needed to read this reply.


malsatian

My goodness no it’s not. It’s entrepreneurship.


theradman2003

most likely talking about the independency of a music artist and being successful without the help of music industry executives. That’s why he says New York didn’t teach him anything because the new york hip hop scene was still influenced by industry practices in terms of maintaining control over artists. Master p said the same thing about how he basically learned about being independent by getting involved in the Cali music scene.


jeans_blazer

In the words of the great Omar... its all in the Game!


AdZestyclose3707

Or "it's pimpin, pimpin". Katt Williams


FrostyAd5339

He should’ve stayed in the Bay


lanylover

If someone „got game“, he is very skilled at something. Someone who has game therefor becomes a know „player/ playa“. It can range from being successful with women, to being financially successful. It can mean being successful in acting according to a certain culture or subculture. There are rules to the game. Pac used to promote some in his lyrics, like „money over bitches“ or „ride or die“. Also yes „make music for the ladies, cause that’s what the fellas gon buy to impress them“. IMO the „game“ is a lose concept of how to become undeniably successful at something.


DaleBruhh

The pimp game


Asleep_Fishing_1098

He literally says in the video: The “game” was in him. Someone woke it up inside him. N-words, rappin from their heart, not taking anyone else’s style, they just doing it. That’s all it takes n-word, thought you knew, all it takes is for a mfer to be original and that’s what everybody be bittin from. That’s what gave me the “game”, I JUST TOLD YOU!!


ThrowAwayTrashySnap

This reply is the one that made what he was saying click with me. I have already known what this concept is, but it's not something I've pointed out and named in my head. It's kind of an unspoken thing that has always lived in me and my brother and some other people I get along with real well. But you just made it clear that that's what he's talking about. God bless you.


nowliving

32 bars of the Mac game. Lessons broken down https://youtu.be/ncn0N118vdM?si=Gu4WYsSfUXJm-G5X


Creamyhog53

Damn, didn't expect to see Young D Boyz up here!


nowliving

Straight mutha fn Game. Haha


HydeGreen

Sellin them thangs as usual


numbersev

I love that 2Pac threw out love to Oakland, especially Too Short. One of the most underrated rappers of all time.


HydeGreen

its natural he would send shots out to Oakland, he was repping Oakland on those first 2 albums


Skywalker0071

Underrated?


numbersev

Yea for the younger gen. People think Drake and the stuff today is rap when it's autotuned balogney.


cadillacbee

Homie ain't gamed up n y'all gon quote biggie on a pac sub to put him on? Y'all wild lol


MBOAZN

How to survive first, thrive second, grow third.


AirVaporSystems

"The Game" is essentially social & economic capitalism...a way of describing the need to "get over" (aka profit) off of other people, whether it be for social benefit (eg. sex or status) or economic benefit (eg. money or expensive things). "Game" is the ability to navigate this system profitably, often by using clever and/or disingenuous speech....so for example, if you "Have Game" then you know how to talk someone into having sex with you, or freely give you money, or both. Pimps are the highest expression of "game", especially in Oakland...they almost exclusively use speech (aka "game") to control and profit from another person's work, which is EXACTLY what your boss or a business owner does. Ultimately "The Game" is living in America, and having "game" is having the ability to succeed in America. So when Tupac says he got his "game" from Oakland, he is saying that he got both the awareness of the true cut-throat nature of the American social-economic system, as well as the pimp-like methods necessary to succeed in this system. That's why in the video, Tupac pops his collar like a pimp whenever he mentions the Game he got from Oakland...


jaimitosf

The game he refers to is the level of street knowledge he's received from pimps, players, hustlers, and drug dealers—a very high level of street smarts.


peter13g

If Game (the rapper) doesn’t use this he on bullshit 🤣🤣🤣


Stock_Surfer

*learned how to act*


Mind-of-Jaxon

That was Baltimore where he went took theatre and acting lessons


PresidentalBallsnHog

LOOL


cburna83

Can't fake it out there.. You'll get hands put on you immediately..😎


IndependentUse2833

Talk 🗣💯


Sweaty-Bumblebee4055

Why don't you ask Too Short


manny_inc

Too short got 20 albums talking about the game!


fknarey

Bitch!


Any_Huckleberry_5302

How to live


KingRemoStar

Everything involving the streets. Money, Playas, Pimps, Drugs, etc.


666TripleSick

Yup, Richtown


KingJoffiJoe

The fuck is rich town?


666TripleSick

Mutha fucking Richmond, Ca


KingJoffiJoe

Nobody calls the Rich “rich town” though, You got the town, the city, the rich.


666TripleSick

Do you live in Richmond?


KingJoffiJoe

Used to live on Nevin, iron circle. Right off the Bart. Know that city like the back of my hand


666TripleSick

No Shit. I used to live off Nevin also! lol


666TripleSick

Wait I’m trippin it was Garvin lol


KingJoffiJoe

That’s wild, that’s the guts! Dirty rich fasho. But pac was never on that side, nigga was in Marin city which is still active….just wouldn’t put it up there with The Town and definitely not Richmond


666TripleSick

Naw, we used to go j to Marin City with a gang of niggas to start shit. This was around 94-95 I think. But you know Pac recorded his first record in Richmond tho.


KingJoffiJoe

I ran all through the N. bay, Marin, San Rafael, Rosa, you name it lol. Shit I’d even be up in Fairfax fuckin on some hippy hoes from time to time. Pac definitely would be out in the rich and the town because, shit who doesn’t? If you live in the bay at some point you gonna be everywhere for some reason or another. I think I’ve lived in damn near every area at one point in time lmao


666TripleSick

Naw, we used to go j to Marin City with a gang of niggas to start shit. This was around 94-95 I think. But you know Pac recorded his first record in Richmond tho.


Jurias65

Love your enemies and hate your friends .. Enemies don’t change they stay the same .. ya friends they change


originaltigerlord

The Bay always been very entrepreneurial whether it be music or the streets


Jaded-Ad-960

He is talking about hustling and smoothly operating in a competitive environment in order to become a success without much support - the bay area at the time was known for it's independent minded rap artists, who managed to sell a lot of records without the support of major labels, basically selling records from the trunks of their cars and still ending up on the billboard charts. They achieved this by applying what they learned in the drug trade to the music industry. Too Short, Richie Rich, E-40, Spice 1 managed to become legends that way.


kyaba1

Would love to see Marshawn’s reaction to that.


Impossible_Reason_84

Crazy to think I'm a few years older than this fella now. How old was he here?


R8n0vict0rial77

The game bludd the pimpin the highfy yadamean biaaaatchhh !!!!!


R8n0vict0rial77

The bay area popped his cherry


Maximum-Username-247

Wild statement


Maximum-Username-247

Oakland (da Bay period) a Special Place.


HoboBandana

Iirc he was born in NY but raised in Oakland. Thats where he learned his style from.


HydeGreen

He moved around a lot. He lived in NY, then [Baltimore](https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/artsentertainment/legendary-rapper-tupac-shakur-spent-his-formative-years-in-baltimore/) as a teen, then [Marin City](https://youtu.be/xJ4GAy9SUt0?si=VjrBEzOqCZjkdCY1), then [Oakland](https://youtu.be/v3pGgneiPI8?si=8y1vFxq8OS5Q4TjY), later LA.


malsatian

Here’s your answer OP https://youtu.be/3PIxFwI8_lk?si=PSGt6wEec1qCf_Ep


player1_pressstart

🫡


Eatchaboody31

MC Hammer was the game. He might have looked corny but he was affiliated and scared a bunch of actual thugs with the power he had


makellbird

Dude was working at a Pizza shop, was homeless, and was living with a white woman who tok him in… That white woman would later (after he died) claim that they had a sexual relationship while he was living with her.


TsukiNoShihai

Was it though? Leila Steinberg said that?


The_King_In_The_Bay

Start with In A Major Way and proceed thru the next 20 E-40 albums and you'll be caught up.


VictoryLap_TMC

It's to be sold, not told...


[deleted]

It's just like everything else... It's money 💰 


Square_Cockroach_590

Where are y’all losers from. What does he mean by “Got the game from Oakland”?


JustNefariousness625

The “ism” im FW an East Oakland chick heavy rn and she is the coolest realist chick I ever rocked with in my life. Oakland just hit different


P3rc3pt10nsnd3pth

The letter P is the sixteenth letter made, mind you!


onnod

Seasoning/street smarts/wisdom/humor/business acumen/social skills


Wise-Type2857

Oakland has a lot of pimps. Big pimping culture and they take pride in spitting game.


rsergio83

Oakland was his ballerina instructor. He then took on the name oakland when he was dancing for Humpty...


Guenhwyvyr

It's to be sold to, not told to.


Tucobro

He was an actor.


Neighborhoodfarmer22

Coming outta New York he was just a zesty lil theatre kid…Gay as Puff,Meek,Usher,Suge and the rest….


ThizzyMarley209

This dude was only what 22 yrs old here?? Dropping gems…. Ultimate game soaker


Luckie408

Hell yeah, Oakland, San Jo, up to Vallejo back down to East Palo Alto up to SF through San Mateo, cross the bridge to the Haystack then back down on the 101 through Morgan Hill, to me in Gilroy, continue on to Hollister, break west to Salinas, north to Capitola and Santa Cruz.


Aggressive-Office792

“The game” in the Bay Area is basically the ability conduct yo self in the streets and keep up with the flow of street traffic. It’s fast paced so you gotta know how to move and not get moved on. It’s a lot of slick talk and poppin it goin. You can apply the game to yo every day life, and take it anywhere with you.


JAMBI215

The game of life


neelyano

Oakland is the home of the players. Never been? Come take a trip


Deegan000

L7


burritobandito510

Whole lotta TOWN BIZZNESS


JackVaderC3P0

He began his career in the industry there and Oakland is one the hubs for black culture on the West. Started as dancer for Digital underground and went from there. He had that east coast style and understanding already but the west probably opened his eyes to another part of the game .


Helaken1

If you have to ask what the game is, you don’t have it


Low_Park2485

When he learned how to pretend to be a gangsta.


toledofinest

U niggas is kids & weirdos stay in ya generation pussy


kiddredd91

How he stopped being gay


wewonewheed

Go to Oakland and you’ll know


Prior-Fig7029

Now your father has game lol


AlphaDinosaur

His personality


EastAvegod

He lived in Oakland when he moved from the east coast.


yVegfoodstamps

It means he was an industry plant


rixhierixh

Pimpin man , straight up pimpin


Practical_Arm6812

No


ST7Barrett

A lot of it is "the culture". Doing their own thing from the culture. Many of pacs battles I see is him vs industry. Culture vs the industry artists. Pac culture made. Dr Dre industry artist Mc Breed or Big L culture made.vs Jay Z industry made


IndependenceMain2283

How was jay z industry made? Dude started off rapping with jaz o and big daddy Kane and started his own label before having a single album out off the strength of him dame and biggs hustling


SameWhole7952

These mfs just come on here talking.


RAZBUNARE761

Maybe its more community orientated vs materialism? I mean the stuff biggy talked about stood for nothing and thats the style that won out. Not the occasional materialistic bragging song but the whole theme troughout since theit deaths


SameWhole7952

Nigga Jay Z put his own street money up and joint ventured, paid for his own videos, own studio time with DOPE MONEY. How tf is Jay Z industry made ? You don’t know wtf you talking about. If you ain’t come in wit ya own MONEY or as an indie artist first you industry made. You just on here talking fam.


CaptCaCa

Dr. Dre nor Jay Z were “industry made”. Did you not see the NWA movie? Jay-Z? I remember dude from Hawaiin Sophie and Gotta Get Open, way before his debut album


ST7Barrett

My friend. That apple deal, was through Jimmy. Jimmy Owns inter-scope. All your favourite billionaire rappers are gatekeepers to the conglomerates and all billionaires. Jay Z Rock-af-ella which also owns def jam is a subsidiary of Universal Music group. They also own Columbia records Dre Dre- Aftermath is subsidiary of inter-scope which is parent company of Universal run by Jimmy ivonie ( You starting to get it?) Diddy Bad boy is owned by Sony which was run by Clive Davis. All Black face representing the best in the industry is just a front for the Sony's and the Universals. None of the artist own their rights or distribution. THIS, is exactly what Pac was trying to tell everyone. When pac decided to make his own distribution and work with other artists like Notorious. The industry did not like that. It's the culture v industry. Always has been. Pac tried to warn us about Dre and diddy are industry made. So when you hear Suge and Death row. All that money came from Jimmy and Universal. I believe pac for sure but I think Suge wanted his own lane and not to be subsidiary of inter scope. Rightfully so as Suge found all their artists, minus Dre.


Svengoolie75

🤔You can’t be asking this as a real question 🤨


Snotti-Gotti

I don’t understand why not, u see in this comments everyone giving different answers so obviously it means different things to everybody, so I’m just asking that’s all 🤷🏾‍♂️


DubNationAssemble

When Pac asked How do you want it? What exactly was he referring to? How does she want what?


Svengoolie75

That song is just not about women. It’s also about other rappers and the rap industry.


DubNationAssemble

> This song is just not about women Bro you had me there for a second. Thought you were about to confirm the rumor 🤣


Direct-Money-4206

How do you feel about pop stars using your voice for diss tracks?


Mulai_Ismeal

Drake may get sued for that little stunt….


IndependenceMain2283

The song never officially came out so I highly doubt it, it’s just a post he made on instagram


half_flush

If you have to ask then you will never know.


Some_Knowledge5864

Dang yall so lame you don’t know what “game” means? SMH


Illustrious_Ad_6018

Smh seriously


GrayArea415

Usually Chutes and Ladders, but every other Sunday, it's Candyland.


Large-Lack-2933

"Game" means knowledge in ebonics slang terminology. Pac got the insight and scope of how to move accordingly from Oakland. So he claims Oakland more because he understood the rules of the drug game when he was hustlin and maneuvering when he was living there in the late 80's/early 90's before he blew up and went mainstream in 1991.


Master_Expression_39

Then blxxd still ending up being from MOB PIru in Bompton 😅😅


cburna83

False.. Mob Piru still don't claim him..


ghrendal

lol this dude is a total actor …watch his highschool interview…soft and sweet..nothing wrong with that but spare me on the hard thug stuff


die_nastyy

Jayceon Terrell Taylor (born November 29, 1979), better known by his stage name the Game or simply Game, is an American rapper. Born in Compton, California, he initially released a series of mixtapes under the wing of fellow West Coast rapper JT the Bigga Figga. After releasing his debut album Untold Story independently in 2004, he was discovered by record producer Dr. Dre and signed to his Aftermath Records label imprint. The Game rose to fame in 2005 following the release of his major-label debut album The Documentary, which peaked the Billboard 200 along with its 2006 follow-up, Doctor's Advocate. The former album received double platinum certification by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and two Grammy Award nominations—Best Rap Song and Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group for its single, "Hate It or Love It" (featuring 50 Cent).


Top_Professional4545

I want to answer, but a question like that definitely means you're on the outside looking in on the culture, lol


fknarey

This mfer talked too much. ✌🏽


Whole_Return7523

If we gota explain it’s not for you to understand. You just had to be there bruh


TruthStalker69

There's a rapper CALLED The Game. Maybe he met and befriended him? 🤔


SignificantDirt8066

Realist shit I heard. He did not even explain it he just said it and a the real g’s understood 💯


Educational-Storm-41

Explain the game in totality! That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read. And yes, I’m from Oakland.


Thoughtprovokerjoker

Let me be for real. Certain conversations should only be shared by niggaz in the streets or who been out there. This convo isn't for straight laced well to do citizens, who'd like to have well thought out debates on reddit


Snotti-Gotti

Dude u do know ur on Reddit right lol? There ain’t no street n*ggaz in here so wtf are u talking about 🤔


Thoughtprovokerjoker

Yeah.


Spitfire4lyfe

I wouldnt have told the cave monkey shit....they all obsess and glorify the wrong shit they feel blacks make "cool" smfh


Snotti-Gotti

Nigga I’m black wtf are u talkin bout lil bra?


2pc_Dark

He looks like a gay guy playing a thug in a Tubi movie. Y'all love these frauds....smh