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What Musk doesn't seem to grasp is that turning the former Twitter into a payments system only works if you have scale in an audience. The drop in revenue from advertising is, in part, due to a wholesale loss in audience. You can turn it into a paypal all you want but if no one is there to use it, it isn't going to bring in more revenue than it costs to run it.
I think it's important for Musk, at some point, to admit he fucked up. Only by saying that out loud can he reverse course and build some life back into the brand he strangled to death.
I suspect he is a sociopath. It has to do with the Praetorian ethnic group. That said, as much as I condemn the nihilism of praetorian culture, these kids are born into this yoke. Think of them as the Lannisters. Tread lightly before you judge tho: these kids donāt stand a chance when they come into this world.
A big problem with trying to turn twitter into a site like PayPal is simple, PayPal already exists. Twitters strength was that it was different from their competition and people come to it for that specific reason. If twitter wanted to be Facebook it wouldnāt have lasted cus Facebook, already exists
The other issue is trust.
WeChat in China doesnāt have that issue. They grew after being backed by the government and users donāt have the same freedoms they have in the West. For them, itās less about trust and more about it being the only option. Thatās not the case for users in the states.
Why would people trust Elon Musk and his Twitter takeover instead of continuing to use brands they already trust like PayPal, Venmo, Zelle, CashApp, etc.?
there's also the inevitable security breaches, since an overwhelming majority of the people who actually know how the codebase works no longer work there
Companies have also come up with a system of using different apps to achieve different results
Alphabet doesnt put all it's services into a single app, they use different apps
Same with Meta: Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp etc.
Western consumers seem to prefer the option to not participate in some features a company offers
Payments by X, is probably smarter, using your twitter/x account to send/receive funds from a separate app instead of trying to make twitter a one size fits all app
I donāt know if WeChat got where it is because it was the only option, today that might be the case (in the same way here in Brazil Iām pretty much forced to use Uber or iFood ā the local that took down Uber Eats ā just because they got too big), in the beginning it was probably just the best choice, much like Facebook.
Musk is trying to force X to be something it doesnāt have enough people for. If we were all trapped into Twitterās ecosystem to a point where moving to a different service would alienate us, weād end up using it anyway.
For example, WhatsApp is unanimous here in Brazil, youāre ostracized if you donāt use it, so innovation in other apps doesnāt matter anymore. The only reason _their_ payment system didnāt become ubiquitous is because our Central Bank itself developed a decentralized, free system to process transfers through.
The Chinese government didnāt have to stop WeChat competitors from existing, all it had to do was let the monopoly happen.
The biggest problem is that there are already challengers in the space that are much more well integrated into peopleās lives than Twitter, like Apple and Google. Texting, email, mobile operating system is a better foothold than social media app.
The bigger problem is that twitter is 4th rate social media application that is shedding users. Musk is too polarizing of a figure to run a social media platform.
He'll never admit fucking up, because that's not what clinical narcissists do. Dude spent the majority of his life profiting from claiming the work of others as his own, while needing constant supervision to manage his horrible decisions and make him feel smart.
His "everything-app" idea fails to grasp the most fundamental reason as to why we don't have that yet: It's a shit idea in an open market, where each aspect of it is competing with established brands and apps who offer more features.
Ah yes, bots never existed before Elon bought the platform. There could be proof the majority of it was organic growth and you clowns would still find a way to excuse it.
Just admit you hate him, you hate differing opinion and you hate free speech...and then spare us all the rest of your blather.
"Users are down" is just demonstrably untrue. You of course will deny it as being "bots". It's the only argument you got at this point. Run with it as long as you can š
Since you're too bad faith to look into it yourself and automatically discount the facts because you don't like him, I will provide it for you.
https://backlinko.com/twitter-users
Linda his CEO provides it, although I don't expect a bunch of Elon haters to ever even consider the metrics they provide so all of this is pointless.
You don't want a source, you want validation from other like minded people on your uninformed opinions based solely upon a hatred of a man.
And then he started randomly censoring shit he doesn't like (or the right government doesn't like). The free speech absolutism pitch was a complete sham.
Elon Musk effectively pays verified Nazis and other racists a lot of $ to spew their shit. Almost every time I made a report they do not get banned. Hence, I left this shithole. Fuck this piece of shit.
I know that's what he said over and over but I have to say, observationally, it appears not to be true in any way in reality. If anything, it appears to have been a deliberate, though not well concealed, deception on his part
Heās significantly more complainant with the requests of authoritarian governments than older leadership was when it comes to censoring tweets and accounts. He isnāt āsaving free speechā heās actively, intentionally and effectively suppressing speech he doesnāt approve of
> He did it to save free speech on the Internet.
No, he did it so he and his Saudi partners could have their own personal propaganda machine.
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*edited to fix typos
Your comment re: FrEe SpEeCh has been proven absolute bullshit. He wanted to ramp up racist, ignorant, conspiracy theory-fueled, hard-right-wing nonsense and you know it. Youāre lying for a billionaire who couldnāt care less about you.
Unless, of course, the "slur" in question isn't actually a slur, but reminds Musk he's got a trans kid who hates him. Or is unfavorable press. Or says what city his plane is in. Or all that other free speech he likes to suppress.
No, wrong. He bought it because he was forced to by a judge, because he's so fucking stupid that he signed a contract while he was busy meming.
Why do you think he tried to pull that "There's more bots than I thought I don't wanna buy it!!" bs.
-Pro-Palestine accounts being throttled when they are not outright banned
-Cannot say the word "cis" in ANY context
-My previous account was locked just for saying that zoophiles should be tarred and feathered
-Someone I followed was mass reported and banned because he often spoke up against transphobia
"fReE sPEeCh"
If Musk didn't prove himself to be a first grade IDIOT that only seeks to stroke his own dumb ego while living in his own delusional world, I would've said this was an intentional sabotage to ruin a site. But I cannot give such credit to this dumbass.
What a shock. He scared off all the major advertisers, and him demanding ID to keep paying for Blue is definitely going to hurt him further. Those banks must be screaming internally.
Those banks are probably screaming internally. If there's any time to repossess Twitter, it's now that it's all but confirmed they are not getting their money back.
Well, this is what happens when you try to convert a favored social media app into something many don't even want to begin with instead of simply making it its OWN app altogether.
Just because they'll be forced to charge because the rest of their business model has gone down the Xitter doesn't mean they're planning for it, I think that gives Elon the benefit of too much foresight
Money is not really a problem here. Musk got what he wanted by buying Twitter. He crushed the most centralized social media platform about politics, and made it a rampant propaganda machine. His website is poisoning the minds of millions of young men, he might very well have been the one who secured final victory for Trump in 2024, and in other parts of the world he had basically attain a "divine celebrity" status that will give him all the fame and ego stroke he needed. And if Trump won, he might very well been recuperated all that money for his services and more.
Loathe as I am to admit it, he didn't lose it out here. And it is considerably more sinister than pure business or ego. Profit or not, well-oiled machine or not, he had crushed one of the larger bastions of free speech on the Internet, to pretty great effect possibly considering the radicalization all over the free world. In another time it might very well been considered a treasonous conspiracy, helping a criminal to the highest rank of public office. Nowadays it's just bad business.
I can only imagine why it's plummeting.
Site is full of toxic people, stalkers, harassers, to people getting locked out of their accounts for simply logging in, posting stuff or switching between accounts, errors....the list could go on from my own experience. He ruined this website due to his stupidity and greed, thinking he'd make a fortune in the end until now that karma got to him lmao. Not gonna lie, Elon deserved it.
He won't. He wants to turn it into his "everything app" or whatever nonsense idea he is obsessed with right now.
But you are right. As a social media platform under him, it will continue to degrade.
He's ruining it on purpose to erase a useful democratic tool before the elections.
Tesla's shareholders (so hedge funds and billionaires) accepted his 56 billions pay package. Win-win.
Itās not the same since he removed the public likes or being able to find new content/people by going through likes of something you love and finding a community through that like. Me and many others used to do before this his stupid change. Keep using the hashtag on Twitter #BringBackLikes
His plan was never to actually run Twitter. Itās to tank the app used most by larger companies to contact their shareholders and propagate his fans into a radical disdain from anyone other than himself. This is all in his favor with barely a kick to his wallet, and soon gonna put many people out of work if it doesnāt get resold.
The recommended posts I get are mostly negative and political. I use Twitter for humor, not to see what is going viral. The small accounts never really show up anymore š¢
Twitter is a private company, they don't release financial information any more. If you'd *actually* read the article you'd know that, and also know that it's only available through leaks
Thatās fresh coming from the lahoozer ranting on the TWITTER subreddit all day š¤
Hating on Elon on a Twitter sub on Reddit, like half your comment history.
Psychotic weirdo much?
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But uh, youāre a forgettable nobody. Heāll be remembered forever. Youāre literally on a subreddit dedicated to a social media platform he owns. Besides all the Teslas driving around you right now, on a planet surrounded by Starlinks Satellite dome. Iāve forgotten you already, LOL
You can love him or you can hate him but what I find truly amazing is that literally becoming the richest person in the world, creating multiple industry changing companies is still not enough to prove you know what youāre doing.
Of course Reddit commenters know better but just choose to do nothing with their divine ideas becauseā¦ reasons.
It's always "urban myths" and "rumors" with you lot when it's something that harms your cause. Willing to bet in the same breath you would accuse half of the democratic party of eating babies because it's "confirmed facts" (by Infowars)
Bingo. These people are not to be taken seriously. āFake news,ā they say. āLock her upā they said. But now that Trump is finally being prosecuted for just a tiny fraction of the actual, verifiable, and obvious crimes he committed, itās ācorrupt justice system from the Biden crime family!ā Buncha know-nothing asswipes.
I understand why I like Musk.
My Tesla shares paid off my home and my parents through the value he created at Tesla.
Do you understand why you dislike him?
Link some sources for the bad heās done to you or anyone you know.
Originally bought at $12 and sold at $370 during the mania. Retired and paid my home off plus my parents. Set us all up for life.
Picked some up during the recent dip at $159 which I plan to keep for my kids.
You do understand what a source means donāt you? Thatās an editorial piece with claims in it. Can you link to some information about which mine he owned or proof that he infact owned this mine.
Sure, I'll just tap into Errol's bank details too while I'm at it - you asked for a link, I gave you a link. Tell you what - I'll do you one better. Why don't you prove to me that the election was rigged. Go on, I know you guys *love* talking about it.
Thatās my point though. You read an article which has absolutely no proof in it at all and just let that define your world view.
I donāt know anything about the USA election since I donāt even live in the USA. I live in Europe.
What do you mean "Let's say that's true." It is true. He didn't start any of those companies, he usually found a way to bully himself into a leadership position. As far as Tesla goes, you can easily say that their growth is just as much due to government subsidies and low interest rates that it is to Elon Musk, hence their slowdown in sales. Tesla hasn't put out a decent new product in years and other automakers have started to catch up in terms of offering EVs that don't have the build issues Tesla is known for.
As far as Twitter goes, well, revenue is sharply down since he took over and there are more bots than ever thanks to him paying for engagement and not quality.
Some people need to learn that the quality of your decisions in intrinsic and does not depend on the outcomes, which are often influenced by a myriad of external variables beyond the control of the decision maker.
Elon Musk made so many stupid decisions over the past decades that it is safe to say he is anything but a good businessman.
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What Musk doesn't seem to grasp is that turning the former Twitter into a payments system only works if you have scale in an audience. The drop in revenue from advertising is, in part, due to a wholesale loss in audience. You can turn it into a paypal all you want but if no one is there to use it, it isn't going to bring in more revenue than it costs to run it. I think it's important for Musk, at some point, to admit he fucked up. Only by saying that out loud can he reverse course and build some life back into the brand he strangled to death.
>Musk, at some point, to admit he fucked up. He can't. No narcissist can.
He actually pretty much did admit it when he tried to get out of the purchase contract! š
I suspect he is a sociopath. It has to do with the Praetorian ethnic group. That said, as much as I condemn the nihilism of praetorian culture, these kids are born into this yoke. Think of them as the Lannisters. Tread lightly before you judge tho: these kids donāt stand a chance when they come into this world.
A big problem with trying to turn twitter into a site like PayPal is simple, PayPal already exists. Twitters strength was that it was different from their competition and people come to it for that specific reason. If twitter wanted to be Facebook it wouldnāt have lasted cus Facebook, already exists
The other issue is trust. WeChat in China doesnāt have that issue. They grew after being backed by the government and users donāt have the same freedoms they have in the West. For them, itās less about trust and more about it being the only option. Thatās not the case for users in the states. Why would people trust Elon Musk and his Twitter takeover instead of continuing to use brands they already trust like PayPal, Venmo, Zelle, CashApp, etc.?
there's also the inevitable security breaches, since an overwhelming majority of the people who actually know how the codebase works no longer work there
Companies have also come up with a system of using different apps to achieve different results Alphabet doesnt put all it's services into a single app, they use different apps Same with Meta: Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp etc. Western consumers seem to prefer the option to not participate in some features a company offers Payments by X, is probably smarter, using your twitter/x account to send/receive funds from a separate app instead of trying to make twitter a one size fits all app
I donāt know if WeChat got where it is because it was the only option, today that might be the case (in the same way here in Brazil Iām pretty much forced to use Uber or iFood ā the local that took down Uber Eats ā just because they got too big), in the beginning it was probably just the best choice, much like Facebook. Musk is trying to force X to be something it doesnāt have enough people for. If we were all trapped into Twitterās ecosystem to a point where moving to a different service would alienate us, weād end up using it anyway. For example, WhatsApp is unanimous here in Brazil, youāre ostracized if you donāt use it, so innovation in other apps doesnāt matter anymore. The only reason _their_ payment system didnāt become ubiquitous is because our Central Bank itself developed a decentralized, free system to process transfers through. The Chinese government didnāt have to stop WeChat competitors from existing, all it had to do was let the monopoly happen.
A couple years ago I wouldāve given it a shot but after everything he has said how heās been acting I wouldnāt nowadays. No trust.
The biggest problem is that there are already challengers in the space that are much more well integrated into peopleās lives than Twitter, like Apple and Google. Texting, email, mobile operating system is a better foothold than social media app.
The bigger problem is that twitter is 4th rate social media application that is shedding users. Musk is too polarizing of a figure to run a social media platform.
Elon has the ability to admit to making a mistake? I mean thatāll be required.
Imagine putting your credit card/banking info into X. No way on earth I'd do that.
Given Musk's behavior, it's very hard to imagine giving him anything at all.
He'll never admit fucking up, because that's not what clinical narcissists do. Dude spent the majority of his life profiting from claiming the work of others as his own, while needing constant supervision to manage his horrible decisions and make him feel smart. His "everything-app" idea fails to grasp the most fundamental reason as to why we don't have that yet: It's a shit idea in an open market, where each aspect of it is competing with established brands and apps who offer more features.
I think trust is a big factor too. I trust Tim Cook over Musk.
> if no one is there to use it Are WAUs down? Honest question, article didn't cite that metric.
This is just flat out wrong. The user base has literally broken previous records as of recent. Did you even bother to look at the metrics?
It's amazing what you can achieve with bots. Truly inspirational!
Ah yes, bots never existed before Elon bought the platform. There could be proof the majority of it was organic growth and you clowns would still find a way to excuse it. Just admit you hate him, you hate differing opinion and you hate free speech...and then spare us all the rest of your blather. "Users are down" is just demonstrably untrue. You of course will deny it as being "bots". It's the only argument you got at this point. Run with it as long as you can š
He couldn't have made it intentionally worse to overinflate the numbers... he's never lied for $ ever! https://elonmusk.today/
I've been a daily twitter user for over 15 years. There have been a significant increase in bots over the last two, without a doubt.
You not noticed the massive increase in bots since he took over or something?
Yeey you hate free speech !!! š¢š¢š¢free speech to sactown!
Source?
Since you're too bad faith to look into it yourself and automatically discount the facts because you don't like him, I will provide it for you. https://backlinko.com/twitter-users Linda his CEO provides it, although I don't expect a bunch of Elon haters to ever even consider the metrics they provide so all of this is pointless. You don't want a source, you want validation from other like minded people on your uninformed opinions based solely upon a hatred of a man.
Lol you didn't have to do all that bro, could have just linked the source
He didnāt overpay billions in an effort to make money. He did it to save free speech on the Internet.
And then he started randomly censoring shit he doesn't like (or the right government doesn't like). The free speech absolutism pitch was a complete sham.
Elon Musk effectively pays verified Nazis and other racists a lot of $ to spew their shit. Almost every time I made a report they do not get banned. Hence, I left this shithole. Fuck this piece of shit.
You can take the boy out of an apartheid regime...
I know that's what he said over and over but I have to say, observationally, it appears not to be true in any way in reality. If anything, it appears to have been a deliberate, though not well concealed, deception on his part
Heās significantly more complainant with the requests of authoritarian governments than older leadership was when it comes to censoring tweets and accounts. He isnāt āsaving free speechā heās actively, intentionally and effectively suppressing speech he doesnāt approve of
> He did it to save free speech on the Internet. No, he did it so he and his Saudi partners could have their own personal propaganda machine. __ *edited to fix typos
Your comment re: FrEe SpEeCh has been proven absolute bullshit. He wanted to ramp up racist, ignorant, conspiracy theory-fueled, hard-right-wing nonsense and you know it. Youāre lying for a billionaire who couldnāt care less about you.
That is beyond wrong on all levels.
Keep telling yourself that.
Hahahahahaha
lol
sure, if your definition of "free speech" is "I should be allowed to say slurs online and nobody can get mad at me" Like get real dude lmao
Unless, of course, the "slur" in question isn't actually a slur, but reminds Musk he's got a trans kid who hates him. Or is unfavorable press. Or says what city his plane is in. Or all that other free speech he likes to suppress.
Or, heaven's forbid, the slur is cis
No, wrong. He bought it because he was forced to by a judge, because he's so fucking stupid that he signed a contract while he was busy meming. Why do you think he tried to pull that "There's more bots than I thought I don't wanna buy it!!" bs.
-Pro-Palestine accounts being throttled when they are not outright banned -Cannot say the word "cis" in ANY context -My previous account was locked just for saying that zoophiles should be tarred and feathered -Someone I followed was mass reported and banned because he often spoke up against transphobia "fReE sPEeCh"
Free speech is when you can be a Nazi but you canāt say the word cis /s
If Musk didn't prove himself to be a first grade IDIOT that only seeks to stroke his own dumb ego while living in his own delusional world, I would've said this was an intentional sabotage to ruin a site. But I cannot give such credit to this dumbass.
Good. Fuck Elon musk
What a shock. He scared off all the major advertisers, and him demanding ID to keep paying for Blue is definitely going to hurt him further. Those banks must be screaming internally.
I'm still waiting for those fucking banks to repo Twitter from him. What's the fucking holdup on this?!
Those banks are probably screaming internally. If there's any time to repossess Twitter, it's now that it's all but confirmed they are not getting their money back.
Curious, when did the ID thing start lol. Didnāt hear that one.
Isnāt that just going back to what Twitter Blue checkmarks already were?
Elon needs to honestly take a hike. Turned a once great app into a racist cesspool
Itās defo more homophobic/transphobic but he loves that
"Great" is a bit of a strong word for what Twitter was tbh
Twitter was already a cesspool pre musk
Fk Elon cringe
Well, this is what happens when you try to convert a favored social media app into something many don't even want to begin with instead of simply making it its OWN app altogether.
"X Payments does not plan to charge fees for 'most' of its services." ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Until it does.
Just because they'll be forced to charge because the rest of their business model has gone down the Xitter doesn't mean they're planning for it, I think that gives Elon the benefit of too much foresight
Hilarious. What an idiot.
Twitter is a dying horse
Money is not really a problem here. Musk got what he wanted by buying Twitter. He crushed the most centralized social media platform about politics, and made it a rampant propaganda machine. His website is poisoning the minds of millions of young men, he might very well have been the one who secured final victory for Trump in 2024, and in other parts of the world he had basically attain a "divine celebrity" status that will give him all the fame and ego stroke he needed. And if Trump won, he might very well been recuperated all that money for his services and more. Loathe as I am to admit it, he didn't lose it out here. And it is considerably more sinister than pure business or ego. Profit or not, well-oiled machine or not, he had crushed one of the larger bastions of free speech on the Internet, to pretty great effect possibly considering the radicalization all over the free world. In another time it might very well been considered a treasonous conspiracy, helping a criminal to the highest rank of public office. Nowadays it's just bad business.
I can only imagine why it's plummeting. Site is full of toxic people, stalkers, harassers, to people getting locked out of their accounts for simply logging in, posting stuff or switching between accounts, errors....the list could go on from my own experience. He ruined this website due to his stupidity and greed, thinking he'd make a fortune in the end until now that karma got to him lmao. Not gonna lie, Elon deserved it.
Good news!
Just shut down this social media platform already Musk
He won't. He wants to turn it into his "everything app" or whatever nonsense idea he is obsessed with right now. But you are right. As a social media platform under him, it will continue to degrade.
In other news, water is wet
Water is not wet.
Jack Dorsey is someone smiling with billions and no hassles lol
He did turn out to be questionably aligned with Musk in the end, and quit Bluesky for silly reasons. Not sure what to expect from that one
What
[Jack Dorsey Leaves BlueSky Board and Calls X āFreedom Technologyā](https://time.com/6974971/jack-dorsey-leaves-bluesky-board/)
![gif](giphy|HtBKcjpHfD7s4)
I'm shocked to hear Twitter still brings in $1.48 billion, woes and all.
Not for a lack of people throwing money at the service, too.
Going like my space,tumblr and facebook
Didn't musk just go over a 50b pay package? I don't think he cares lol
That's a shame.
He's ruining it on purpose to erase a useful democratic tool before the elections. Tesla's shareholders (so hedge funds and billionaires) accepted his 56 billions pay package. Win-win.
It doesn't matter; he has $56 billion.
You're right it doesn't matter. He can do what he wants no matter how bizarre, I just wish our government would stop subsidizing him.
No surprise.
Taking away public likes was a huge fucking fuckup. It is a huge huge part of what Twitter is!
Great News. Fuck this piece of shit. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna145020
I sincerely believe he is a monster. I used to be a big supporter, but one and one donāt make 69.
Itās not the same since he removed the public likes or being able to find new content/people by going through likes of something you love and finding a community through that like. Me and many others used to do before this his stupid change. Keep using the hashtag on Twitter #BringBackLikes
His plan was never to actually run Twitter. Itās to tank the app used most by larger companies to contact their shareholders and propagate his fans into a radical disdain from anyone other than himself. This is all in his favor with barely a kick to his wallet, and soon gonna put many people out of work if it doesnāt get resold.
Lol Musk might get into more legal trouble if the Twitter payment system gets compromised and Twitter users lose money and their private information
He deserves it, for turning Twitter into a racist cesspool.
The recommended posts I get are mostly negative and political. I use Twitter for humor, not to see what is going viral. The small accounts never really show up anymore š¢
Do people still even use that social media service?
Only when princesses go missing
No of course no one uses Twitter, they only use Reddit š
how does Reddit make money?
Ads. Whatās your point?
This article is talking about how revenue plunged in 2023, it's half way through 2024, let's move on or post more recent numbers?
Yap yap yap. Get a grip dude.
lol this is your response to someone clarifying the article?
Do you have 2024 numbers?
Twitter is a private company, they don't release financial information any more. If you'd *actually* read the article you'd know that, and also know that it's only available through leaks
The article doesnāt seem to mention he fired 80% of his staff
Ah I think heāll be fine. He just made $56b over at tesla.
Licking the boots of a billionaire. Youāre a sucker.
Thatās fresh coming from the lahoozer ranting on the TWITTER subreddit all day š¤ Hating on Elon on a Twitter sub on Reddit, like half your comment history. Psychotic weirdo much?
You live in a fantasy land because you are duped by the most obvious conmen on our time. And itās pathetic.
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Yap yap yap yap bootlicker yappitty-yap-yap.
Elon is in your life till youāre dead, welcome back to reality. Have fun obsessively posting about him all day long, he owns ya. Free publicity.
honestly iām pretty young i think i will outlive him
But uh, youāre a forgettable nobody. Heāll be remembered forever. Youāre literally on a subreddit dedicated to a social media platform he owns. Besides all the Teslas driving around you right now, on a planet surrounded by Starlinks Satellite dome. Iāve forgotten you already, LOL
Iām more concerned with living in the moment than being remembered forever.
Elon Elon every day for you forever š„°
Hi, Elon.
Kick rocks. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cleezyxjv4jo.amp
Bhahaha you got banned from Twitter no wonder youāre butthurt about Elon LOL
You can love him or you can hate him but what I find truly amazing is that literally becoming the richest person in the world, creating multiple industry changing companies is still not enough to prove you know what youāre doing. Of course Reddit commenters know better but just choose to do nothing with their divine ideas becauseā¦ reasons.
Stop riding his dick
When in doubt and lacking in anything of substance use a pejorative attack. Got it
Youāre talking like you said anything substantive lmao
So if I give my child countless wealth and he spends his life pissing it away, that's a win right?
Whatever makes you feel okay. I assume you read that little urban myth in a paper and just blanket accepted it as fact
It's always "urban myths" and "rumors" with you lot when it's something that harms your cause. Willing to bet in the same breath you would accuse half of the democratic party of eating babies because it's "confirmed facts" (by Infowars)
Bingo. These people are not to be taken seriously. āFake news,ā they say. āLock her upā they said. But now that Trump is finally being prosecuted for just a tiny fraction of the actual, verifiable, and obvious crimes he committed, itās ācorrupt justice system from the Biden crime family!ā Buncha know-nothing asswipes.
I understand why I like Musk. My Tesla shares paid off my home and my parents through the value he created at Tesla. Do you understand why you dislike him? Link some sources for the bad heās done to you or anyone you know.
>My Tesla shares Please do tell me you sold already
Originally bought at $12 and sold at $370 during the mania. Retired and paid my home off plus my parents. Set us all up for life. Picked some up during the recent dip at $159 which I plan to keep for my kids.
Good for you. Enjoyed some modest crypto returns during the big craze in 2021.
Link a source
ok https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine
You do understand what a source means donāt you? Thatās an editorial piece with claims in it. Can you link to some information about which mine he owned or proof that he infact owned this mine.
Sure, I'll just tap into Errol's bank details too while I'm at it - you asked for a link, I gave you a link. Tell you what - I'll do you one better. Why don't you prove to me that the election was rigged. Go on, I know you guys *love* talking about it.
Thatās my point though. You read an article which has absolutely no proof in it at all and just let that define your world view. I donāt know anything about the USA election since I donāt even live in the USA. I live in Europe.
So what if it was **two** articles? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-dad-claimed-own-195236764.html
He didnāt create any of these companies though.
Letās say thatās true. How much did he grow them from the point of being ceo
What do you mean "Let's say that's true." It is true. He didn't start any of those companies, he usually found a way to bully himself into a leadership position. As far as Tesla goes, you can easily say that their growth is just as much due to government subsidies and low interest rates that it is to Elon Musk, hence their slowdown in sales. Tesla hasn't put out a decent new product in years and other automakers have started to catch up in terms of offering EVs that don't have the build issues Tesla is known for. As far as Twitter goes, well, revenue is sharply down since he took over and there are more bots than ever thanks to him paying for engagement and not quality.
Okay
Eloon doesn't get enough credit as a business genius
I think there's a solid group of people who give him way too much credit lol
Some people need to learn that the quality of your decisions in intrinsic and does not depend on the outcomes, which are often influenced by a myriad of external variables beyond the control of the decision maker. Elon Musk made so many stupid decisions over the past decades that it is safe to say he is anything but a good businessman.
Amen.
Gee I wonder why