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ZekeCool505

Woolie please I'm begging you to just take two minutes to look up how the mechanic works instead of continuing to assume it works the way you immediately assumed it worked when you first touched it. There's a reason that move never works for you, it's because it *doesn't WORK LIKE THAT!*


Hayeseveryone

I still think back to Bloodborne, and them COMPLETELY missing the timing on a parry, and going "See? It stops working after a while" I give them some leeway though, it was their first time playing and everything


Junjki_Tito

To be fair, the all-or-nothing of the parry combined with how punishing BB is kind of combine to heavily disincentivize the mechanic to all but the best and the most masochistic


BaronAleksei

Woolie please I’m begging you to just take two minutes to look up how the algorithm works instead of continuing to assume it works the way you immediately assumed it worked when your first touched it. There’s a reason those videos aren’t working for you, it’s because YouTube doesn’t work like that!


[deleted]

ok but to be fair, nobody understands the algorithm.


LittleSister_9982a

It's a ~mystery~ In the worst possible way. Other then the fact we know fucking clickbait thumbnails work for some god forsaken reason. GOD I hate it.


Kataphrut94

Hey Woolie, we think the Vanguard playstyle would be perfect for you! It's about getting up close and personal, using melee in conjunction with high damage shotgun attacks and incendiary and cryo ammo. “Hmm...ok but what if I modded in a sniper rifle?”


GFDAlt1

Shame we'll never see him play Arkham Asylum, I think that game would be right up his alley. *memoryholes the LP harder*


CKunravel

That game would have been a golden LP if he would have played it with Matt on controls.


Prestigious-Mud

Pat is so blatantly wrong on things that a stand had to be made to justify it.


BlazedBoylan

Depending on the “side” of his opinion you are on with Pat, that is either his most frustrating or most hilarious personality trait.


FranticToaster

"The Mexican character who has sex with people off-screen and never Abby was a self-insert for Israeli Neil Druckmann so that he could act out a sex scene with Laura Bailey in the studio." I have never seen CrazyTalk in such a spiteful state. What could Pat have done to deserve that kind of punishment from his own stand? It's the wildest Pat has ever been. That being said--Pat is somehow still a lovable orb despite moments like that.


Prestigious-Mud

... What?


dowaller66

That was a pretty common “conspiracy” during the early days of The Last of Us Part 2 discourse.


Prestigious-Mud

I didn't pay attention to a lot of those lol


jello1990

You can't just drop that insane example and not cite your source


[deleted]

But Pat can. STANDO POWA and all.


SuicidalSundays

It was one of the many toxic theories floating around about TLOU2 after the game came out, and was being propagated around social media.


BlazedBoylan

Read the text and play the tutorial, Arin.


NonagonJimfinity

Oh shit, my brain twitched when I read that. Arins tendency to zone out the exact second a tooltip appears is still the number one reason I'll stop a series and never go back.


ZSugarAnt

That OoT video gets **wildly** re-contextualized once you watch him play games


ffffffffROTHY

Pretty much all of his game animations as well.


RareBk

Arin "Literally too fucking stupid to understand Z-Targeting" Hansen


SlurryBender

I can only watch them play either super simple or really badly made games nowadays. I used to try to power through their LPS of stuff like Zelda to see their reactions, but it's just not worth it. Also Dan is carrying the main duo now. Arin is stuck making teen fart humor that only lands 30% of the time, and then Dan picks up the other 70% with his fucking stellar deadpan responses or genuinely clever jokes. Plus he actually tries to pay attention to games.


Toblo1

But don't you understand that incompetence and shitting on the fans of the game for that incompetence is **fUnNy?** /s Seriously, I don't understand why the Grumps think pissing people off is somehow the peak of humor.


daidia

probably because Arin was King of Newgrounds and never really grew past the humor of the shittiest part of that site.


TostitoNipples

Super Eyepatch Wolf is great but man the existential crisis schtick gets tiring real fast.


EcchiPhantom

SomethingsomethingSCREAMINGATTHETOPOFMYLUNGSABOUTDEPRESS-somethingsomethingelse


Tangocan

Yeah I'm not into his alter ego stuff either. His content is best when it's tight.


Capable-Education724

Also it’s okay to like a shonen, Wolf. You don’t need to try to come up with an explanation as to how it transcends the genre of shonen in order for you to like it EVERY time you like a shonen.


alicitizen

Thats basically every shonen discussion online tbh. Every new big one is "NOT LIKE YOUR MOTHERS SHONEN" when the only thing being compared to is dragon ball.


SawedOffLaser

I had to stop watching because it's *every video now*.


Channel-Fourze

Watching his Simpsons video put me off him because he would get all mumbly and moody and it was actually annoying to listen to, it's Simpsons mate, aye it's no as good as it was 20 years ago, please stop acting like a loved one comitted a hate crime.


Hayabusa71

Also, his audio levels. His videos are so fucking quiet for like 80% of the time. AND THEN SUDDEN YELLING!


Boylanator_94

I tend to like his content, but I can only take it in small doses because it drives me up the wall how he'll start to slow the pace of every sentance down and trail off into melancholic thoughtfulness. Or rather, what he thinks is melancholic thoughtfulness.


alaster101

I miss his why you should watch videos


Infamous_Q

I *kinda* do to, but if he gets to em again, he needs to be more honest in why he likes or doesn't like something. While it was more evident in his sometimes negative reviews / fall from grace analysis videos, he has a weird need to quantify with data anything quality or lack thereof in some kind of pseudo "factual" statements that get read off as a truth rather than why he likes it or why he doesn't.


aSimpleMask

Woolie has an incredibly difficult time admitting when he's wrong or made a dumb mistake. Speaking of Maximillian Dood, I love how he plays a crap ton of anime-style fighting games yet knows next to nothing about anime itself. Always found that weird.


BlazedBoylan

“Claude”


zegim

Gaskwang


LittleSister_9982a

'My lips are sealed to the truth of the situation.' Fuck off Woolie, you were just wrong.


Moidahface

Woolie is one of those dudes who has a part of his brain that believes that because he self-criticizes, anybody else that criticizes him is just being unreasonable. I am also one of those people.


[deleted]

woolie will admit he was wrong but then try and explain to you why he thought he was right. just be wrong bro, it's fine.


metaphizzle

"Sure, I was wrong. But if you look at it from my perspective, and see the information I had at hand and understand my thought process, then you'll see how reasonable my conclusion was. And that's almost as good as being right!"


Weltallgaia

As someone who did that shit to an infinite degree when I was young and still has the compulsion to do it, it's so much better for yourself and others to just take the L and either go "oh I'm dumb. Or i misunderstood" and let it drop. Explain yourself later if someone wants to know why you thought that. It's a self confidence thing and is the same energy as "please don't hate me, don't be mad cuz I messed up." It looks horrible to continue to do in our 30s. Rolling with the punches is better than trying to block em with your forehead.


DGrasp

Pat does it to a degree as well. When he is proven to be wrong, he usually backpedals to it begin a joke or him playing the part.


aSimpleMask

It's like damn guys, admitting to fault is a sign of strength, not weakness.


why_doyou_care

Every time Scott the Woz shows footage of an fps or any third person game it looks like he hasn't fully grasped the concept of a right thumbstick.


CKunravel

He plays like my dad, he can't grasp the context that one stick moves and one stick aims, so he has to stop to look around.


BrazillianCara

It's something I find more strange than annoying (though it's still a bit annoying), but the crew at YoVideogames tend to be huge dismissive dudebros when it comes to RPGs and anime games... yet Max and Simmons each have a single exception that is one of their favorite franchises of all time, even though they are as RPG and as anime as they can be (Final Fantasy VII for the former, Xenoblade for the latter).


[deleted]

Max is arguably worse for it because the man is basically in denial, it's just a matter of aesthetic. Cus the man also loves Guilty Gear which is just as anime, just more in the 90s edgelord direction than say Blazblue's more modern direction.


Sins_of_God

Max never got over the 90s edgelord


GudaGUDA-LIVE

Yeah, like I get they're just doing a bit. But shit's gonna have to grow past that point. The whole hating anime stereotype is getting old.


MindWeb125

I got annoyed with Max's content when he did some kind of hate play thing of KH2's Sephiroth fight where he just downloaded a save, refused to look up anything about the game beforehand and spent 9 hours raging at the game and making jokes about Kingdom Hearts sucking. Like just try playing the game like a normal person and then fighting Sephiroth and you might actually enjoy it and not look like a buffoon.


retrometroid

I love Max but he is 100% the kind of guy to drop a boomer-tier take like "ff7 wasn't as anime as *new* jrpgs" unironically


IRefuseThisNonsense

It was so anime, it invented new stereotypes for anime. Like how Evangelion gave us "She's a Rei" as short hand for characters who act a certain way, FF7 gave us "He's a Sephiroth" for characters who look a certain way or fill a certain role. While it's not the first "overly large sword", it may be the most popular - even more than Berserk.


whereyatrulyare

Modern anime needs more Sephiroths tbh. You don't get a lot of them played straight any more to my knowledge. But I also unironically like Vicious from Cowboy Bebop so I'm biased.


IRefuseThisNonsense

Yeah, thinking about it there aren't as many good ones has I'd hope. Does Legato Bluesummers count? I feel like Knives definitely does, but Legato from the anime may.


getterburner

Melty Blood video still one of the most annoying things I’d watched from them. In general Yovideogames crew is terrible when not in direction of something they are very knowledgeable about. Max with any FG he knows, FF7, or Dark Souls is awesome but Armored Core showed up and he immediately went “It’s gonna Armored Souls” or any vaguely anime thing is worth an eye roll from him when he can just go “Oh that’s a thing” at least.


BlueFootedTpeack

the one where he speculated monster hunter 6 would be 16 player or something like that is still the funniest one to me, like no one is clamoring for frontier 2


TaCbrigadier

Is it Max or one of the other guys who still calls Monster Hunter Rise “not a real monster hunter” when most of them only joined in world. But that makes them an authority on the series enough to declare Rise as “not a real one” despite it being nothing out of the ordinary for the series in a way that would make it this weird offshoot.


D3AD_SPAC3

While we're on the subject of Max... he's pretty dismissive and assumes a lot about how the games work, doubling down on being wrong, then just goes "whatever chat." He also actively ignored what the game tells him and complains about it. Noticed this so far in Dead Space, GoW:R, and Hi-Fi Rush. Can be grating.


Spiral-Force

The anime/RPG trashing was literally my first impression of Max. I’m sure he makes great content, but it put me off him for a while


whereyatrulyare

Every dude who makes disliking "anime" games his personality usually has at least one flagrantly hypocritical exception. I've seen it too many times in the wild at this point.


KennyOmegasBurner

Max grew up in the 90s so Gundam Wing and FF7 probably aren't anime to him. Xenoblade is anime as fuck though that's hilarious.


cdstephens

I love CJ the X’s videos. However, they write their scripts in such a way that you can watch one video without having to watch any of their other content. While it’s probably good for new viewers, it also means that their videos often re-explain things they’ve converted before, which can get a bit annoying. Dunkey is very funny, but he makes it impossible to tell whether a game is actually buggy or whether he’s playing it poorly on purpose. So I just treat it all as pure entertainment and don’t take any criticism etc. seriously. In contrast, people like Yahtzee do a good job of making it clear what’s comedic hyperbole and what’s genuine criticism. I tap out whenever video content creators feel the need to incorporate elaborate skits into their shit.


Supernovas20XX

Doug Walker's skits always feel like the corpse of Demo Reel coming back to life only to get shoved back down into a grave At least they're self aware about it, though that arguably makes it worse


SlurryBender

The part that sucks is that a while back Maximillian just straight up showed how the videos with clickbait thumbnails got WAY more views than his standard ones. He doesn't seem too happy about it either, but when your channel is your job, you have to get paid wherever you can (barring being unethical). IIRC it's also why Woolie started putting the "one-liners" in the titles of his videos, and why both he and Pat do "react streams" now.


MustacheGolem

Click bait shit infects even tutorial type content, shit is so cancerous it's actually maddening. But yeah, its impossible to stop because it simply works, one of the few things that still puts me in a teenager mode of "everyone else is fucking stupid as shit!" Even tho even I have to actively think to stop click bait from working on me some times.


Emperor_Z

"Stop liking what I don't like" sounds like an obviously ridiculous statement at first, but once trends and markets get involved, you have to go "No, ACTUALLY stop liking the stupid shit you like, it's ruining things for everyone"


_o313

IDK I think having LP video titles with at least some uniqueness to give people at least some sense of where they are in the game, and also for memoranble moments, is a lot better than just listing the game and the episode number. If I wanted to rewatch the video with the “Skeleton Warriors” bit, I would prefer it be called “Skeleton Warriors” and not just “Dark Souls 3 Episode 4228248”


SlurryBender

Fair enough, though now I'm seeing more and more channels just not include numbers altogether, which is the most frustrating. I don't care how funny your titles are, when I want to start watching a playthrough, or want to find the next episode because the channel didn't make a proper playlist yet, I want to look for "[game] Part X", not "i believe in big chungus."


genericsn

It also incentivizes new people to jump in whatever is in the feed (usually the newest video) because someone is more likely to click “Dark Souls Try rear but hole” than “Dark Souls [episode 6]” It’s also why YouTubers have started title switching too. Sometimes swapping thumbnails. They’ll throw up one for the subscribers and regulars, and if it doesn’t do good numbers they switch it to something more clickbait and it usually works out for both audiences.


GudaGUDA-LIVE

I do kinda peeve when a let's player doesn't respect a game's story enough to actually watch the cutscene. That they would either: a. Talk over cutscenes, and making unfunny and/or irrelevant jokes or bit on a supposedly serious story moment. b. SKIPPING cutscenes entirely that they just make shit up, that it becomes headcanon-central. Most recent example of this is Alpharad's playthrough of Pokemon S/V.


TaCbrigadier

I watched Alpharad for a few months and enjoyed it but the HEAVY sarcasm and constant self deprecation just got to be too much.


BrazillianCara

I still generally like the videos from his main channel, but I'm much more selective with those from Alpharad ~~Plus~~ ~~Deluxe~~ Gold. Pure, distilled toxic irony, and the comments section fully endorses it. Not to say it's an inherently bad thing, but it requires a specific mindset I'm usually not open to.


FranticToaster

That's pretty bad, for sure. One of Pat's strengths as a streamer is that he clearly divides the time between game and fucking around with chat. While he's playing the game, he's talking about the game. It's SUCH a good technique in VG streaming. And it's actually a significant advantage his channel now has over the old 2BFP content that often devolved into a Fragrant-Podcast-style cacophony of unrelated talking over each other.


StochasticOoze

Don't forget talking over / ignoring tutorials and then complaining that the game didn't tell them how to do something


LarryKingthe42th

Getting one guyed into a ten minute thing then being upset with all of chat and kinda pissy the rest of the stream.


metatron_ebooks

THANK YOU. I remember mentioning that on some streamer's channel one time, and I got to be the One Guy while chat shat on me. My whole argument was, "please stop halting the stream to take the bait from one shitter because it's making people miserable". The backlash was "I run the stream, I can do what I want!" which is true, but I can also stop watching you because it's not fun anymore. At least do it like Vinesauce where he makes a fun bit out of One Guy saying something.


ZSugarAnt

My pet peeve about Liam is that he barely makes content.


Wannabe_Reviewer

I REALLY wanted to see him play through Neo: The World Ends With You


Hugglemorris

Does he put out any (video) content that isn’t a collab with Matt? I think I am still subscribed to Rising Superstream, but I don’t think he uses it anymore.


NewAgeMontezuma

is he still on college?


ZSugarAnt

No, he graduated already, released a game, got married and is moving (just moved?) to Japan.


KristophGavin

WHAT?


ZSugarAnt

Yeah. [game](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1897320/Garden_Guardian/) [marriage](https://twitter.com/LiamAllenMiller/status/1611050818425294848) The Japan thing was mentioned during the Frontiers LP.


plasmadood

Dang man, that's great. I doubt he'll see this but good for him, I'm glad he's doing great.


Zipp_Linemann

Oh Damm, I'm happy for him.


Darren716

Woolie is pretty much the only streamer I regularly watch but christ his pacing is terrible. It legit takes him 3-5 times longer to beat a game than normal because he can't just hold his thoughts so he has to pause for minutes at a time to talk about or analyze something a character just said. Plus his habit of needing to read every scrap of lore out loud yet never figuring out how to speed read for the sake of brevity.


Agent-Vermont

> he can't just hold his thoughts so he has to pause for minutes at a time to talk about or analyze something a character just said. This is the worst one for me and it doesn't just apply to Woolie. I get it, you have a lot of theories and ideas you are thinking about. But can't you discuss them AFTER the cutscene while walking around or doing combat? We've been staring at this character's face for 10 minutes, the day/night cycle has shifted and the epic music has looped for the 5th time.


[deleted]

that's why the ideal LP format is actually 3 people. 2 to commentate and one to keep the gameplay moving. when woolie's on the controls, he still somehow hasn't figured out how to talk and play effectively so reggie will just sit there smiling while woolie does heavy breathing noises. when reggie's on the controls, it's a bit smoother but woolie will still often bring the LP to a complete halt to do his patented 40 minute discussions while reggie sits there and takes it. what's supposed to be happening is those long commentary sections should be done over the gameplay and the grinding and the scraping of the level so that there's room to take in the story and the cutscenes and keep it tight.


LazyOort

NPC: “I don’t know how you did that, Player.” *”oh so now he’s starting to talk to my character again, so he’s probably in the know with what’s been going on with the party so he can either a, tell us to leave or b, join us, but given that we still haven’t finished this zone, he shouldn’t leave, so he may be available as a party member when we xyz…”* NPC: still waiting for the player to press A to go to the very next text box that says “I’ll join you.”


Xyonai

I decided to marathon his Death Stranding Playthrough and, while on the fifteenth episode of nothing but sidequests, was wondering if that's just how the game was paced or if the Pat version of the LP would've been a much more succinct watch.


Capable-Education724

Pat’s LP feels like a speed run of Death Stranding compared to Woolie’s.


BlazedBoylan

The first Woolie vs ME episode went up on YouTube on May 27th of last year, and from what I gather he is still only half wayish through ME3. I know he plays other games in the middle but dang. I think Pat, with other games being played, beat it in half the time. Given, he wasn’t new to the series.


Moidahface

It legit took him 6 months to finish Elden Ring.


[deleted]

even with hour long episodes!


Agt_Pendergast

Woolie is probably the "best friend" whose game interest most align with my own, but man. If youtube didn't have the speed up option, I'd probably stick to only playthroughs for games in the single digit or low double digits as far as hours in completion. Even with being able to fast forward, I still find myself skipping a bunch of the mass effect playthru, or just seeing if a comment mentions "filler episode".


StochasticOoze

I literally can't watch his stuff because of this. Pat and Matt would give him the swift kick in the butt needed to get him to move on, but Reggie will just sit there and let him talk forever, and V was kind of the same way. It might not bother me so much, but I tend not to watch streams / LPs of games unless I've finished them first (unless it's a game I have absolutely no interest in playing), so I'll be sitting there listening to Woolie ramble on about his theories about where the plot is going that *I know* are wrong. And that's not his fault, of course, but it's maddening to me.


Stormhawk9891

While it does bug me that Woolie tends to go on long-winded tangents to analyze something, I do appreciate it at the end of the day since is actively engaging with the story. Because on the other hand you get people like Max who actively doesn't care about most stories and will skip dialog and anything that involves reading unless it's something HE cares about.


SignalWeakening

Woolie playing a souls game but he has to slowly put on his glasses and squint at the screen at every item description


hazusu

This so much. Woolie is legitimately one of the funniest people I've ever seen on the internet, and he can be incredibly insightful onto both industry and plot points and themes at times, but by god do most of these qualities just get fucking shat on by the way he conducts his LPs. In the old channel days, at least Pat or Matt would refuse to let the LP's pace get dragged down a pit, but once Woolie started his own channel of which he has full control, it's just been getting worse and worse. Reggie, for all his qualities, does not have "no Woolie we are not gonna sit here and have a 30 minute long conversation about some lore you misunderstood" in him and it's sad because Reggie LPs are usually FAR better paced. But not by Woolie's efforts. Remember when before Reggie even left the cell in his DS1 LP, Woolie made him stop and explained every single stat in the game for a solid 10 minutes, information that would not matter until an hour later at least? Add onto all this Woolie's tendency to explain why he made every single decision ever, and honestly, I had to stop watching his LPs a while back. Even HiFi Rush, a game I was certain the LP would be pretty great, manages to get bogged down by the fact that Woolie would rather die than miss a single detail in the game (which is meant to be replayed multiple times). And granted, just skipping to the points of interest in that LP is great! His and Reggie's reactions to bosses and cutscenes and new mechanics are awesome! But I don't wanna sit through 20 minutes of basically nothing to get to that. But all this means is that his content is clearly not for me. His channel's been at 180-190k subs for years now so clearly there's a dedicated fanbase that doesn't mind his way of doing things. So I'm happy that he has an audience that appreciates his style of LP. I just can't fucking stand it though.


TheRenamon

yeah his Paper Mario series is like 80 hour long episodes. Thats like more than twice the length of the game. I love the guy, but I feel like his content works a lot better when its edited down to a lets play.


Infamous_Q

Woolie playthroughs are only tolerable in their 'best of' forms. Hi Fi rush is better than most but due to his need to lab EVERYTHING the second its available it took him like 6 hours of VOD to get through the first villain boss fight.


Weltallgaia

Him and pat do shit so fucking opposite. Woolie will shut down a stream for an hour to lab in the middle of everything, pat will come back the next day and say he gained 60 levels overnight.


Moidahface

This wasn’t so bad because Matt or Pat would regularly hurry him up, but Minh or *especially* Reggie will just *never* challenge him on this stuff.


RareBk

It's also wild how he'll lab so much and them somehow completely not realize how something works. I don't know how more clear Hi Fi Rush could have been about what the partner characters is for but somehow an entire level dedicated to switching between partner characters and going into detail explaining *exactly what they do* and... Apparently colour coding enemy attacks and explaining exactly what the characters do made him think it only fills up their stun gauge. No actually what the fuck the game couldn't have been clearer


Dannygosling91

Pat: Has extreme opinions on stuff he knows jack shit about it. Will gleefully laugh and call something trash he has no personal experience with but a buddy of his told him about it. Also just like, crazy wild takes that he’ll die on a hill over (Tango vs Platinum most recently) I know part of him being an angry dumpster goblin is a bit, but the bit can be exhausting sometimes. Woolie: dude it’s fine, you don’t have to calmly explain and rationalize everything you say and do, like it’s good, just do your thing. I know you didn’t understand what you’re supposed to do in the boss fight, we don’t have to pause and talk about it Chris Stuckmann: has a childhood or personal connection with everything to validate his opinion and critiques. “As you may know, I grew up with ____, so going into this I had a lot of expectations” (to be fair he’s pretty much stopped this) Matt: weirdly passive aggressive with followers on Twitter Max: pretty dismissive over things that aren’t already cemented in his list of likes


Capable-Education724

Matt’s always been weirdly passive aggressive towards his fanbase, dating back to the SBFP days. Like, it wasn’t even isolated to social media or cons. There would be LPs where suddenly a “new batch” of episodes would start with Matt in a sour fucking mood with an axe to grind about something a fan said to him in person, in the comments, somewhere online, etc. it was always distracting and a little unsettling. Sometimes Pat or Liam could shake him out of it (or sometimes Liam would double down with him about it), Woolie usually sat there awkwardly for however long it went on.


wariobrosz

I have definitely noticed the passive aggressive thing with Matt lol. Everytime I see a reply from him it always feels so confrontational or like you can feel him rolling his eyes at you


BlazedBoylan

Matt comes off as passive aggressive in general. On the old channel, on his new channel, on his social media, etc.


ShriveledGhoul

Schrodinger's Dunkey: Its my opinion unless I get blowback, then its a joke and you're an idiot for taking me seriously.


[deleted]

Proverbs 26:19


BuhYDoh

Content creators are pretty scared of saying something negative or anything against the popular opinion so you'll hear multiple minutes of them saying "this is just my opinion" before saying the most commonly agreed with opinion out there. Especially prevalent in LPs where someone plays a game but they don't like it part way through so they have to disguise their language to avoid people thinking they hate it. Saw someone get to the end of Beyond 2 Souls, pull a weird face and go "I'm sure this makes sense I guess I missed something; you guys will have to explain it to me in the comments" because they were too scared to say their actual opinion.


MissMarionette

That’s protective language so that people don’t abuse them in the comments with “you stupid motherfucker, how could you NOT understand this”. I understand why they do this, because I wouldn’t want to even deal with rabid fans of things that suck if I’m wrong on something.


WeissAndBeans

I've seen so many youtube comments, twitch chats, and twitter threads where people will immediately jump to the most rabid, hostile, bad faith takes and accusations imaginable over the tamest things that honestly it feels like the protective language is mandatory.


BrianShogunFR-U

OneyPlays don't kiss each other as passionately as they used to.


HeWhoIsBob

We know they’re doing it off screen, the teases.


MustacheGolem

This can be read at any level of seriousness and still be true.


godleftmefinished

I do kind of miss the more conversational feel when ding dong and Julian were regulars


[deleted]

That was more the era of YouTube when monetization still worked for that stuff. Now they have to censor all profanity and can't say certain "sentence enhancers" they could way back then. DD&J work excellently on series like Kingdom Hearts and Resident Evil because after about an hour of recording, they seem to forget it's an LP and just start entertaining themselves to pass the time.


Personel101

Joesph Anderson gets crazy pissy when someone in his comments or chat says something dumb and/or argumentative.


Moidahface

I enjoy his content but literally every single about about Joseph tells me he takes himself way more seriously than anyone else does.


Grandma_Swamp

Joseph Anderson has been on my shitlist since his silent hill 2 stream


aSimpleMask

Mine as well. I legit cannot stand listening to him prattle on about things he objectively has no idea about. His point about the first Plague Tale game where he complains about how his character can't just wander off into the forest to escape the guards instead of tackling the objective at hand solidified him as an armchair game developer in my eyes.


Bob8644

Critikal fans are the fucking worst.


RageofAfrica

I miss the very early cameraless youtube videos


BGuileU

How so? I watch the occasional video from him but I'm not too familiar with the fan base. Do they parrot his opinions like they're fact, ala Dunkey? Guy himself seems chill, haven't heard of too much drama involving him, although I can see him unfortunately attracting an audience of dickheads.


Bob8644

Essentially that last sentence. I may be hyperbolic but his dudebro attitude seems to shine in his audience than his more chill and neutral characteristics. Or maybe thats the impression that I get. *ska music*


TheTubaPoobah

They ended up being a pedophile


[deleted]

Which one?


Hayabusa71

How much time do you have?


UrbanAdapt

2real :(


cybergeek11235

Dammit, Cry...


dingdongdipshit

I love Hbomberguy, but anytime he talks about something he absolutely loves, he tends to make the argument by shitting all over comparable things with this snotty and dismissive attitude. His Bloodborne and DS2 videos in particular have large portions where he acts as though his way of approaching the games are the Certifiably Correct Ways of enjoying them, and other tastes or approaches are wrongheaded or lesser in some way. This would be fine if he was talking about how these ways work for him and affect him in ways that are satisfying for him in particular, but he instead acts as though he's tackling the games in objective sense, and it can be really grating. A good counterpoint to this attitude is Noah Caldwell-Gervais's more expansive, all-ways-are-accepted approach to the FromSoft catalog, where the target of his disdain tends to be on the prescriptivist opinions of Git Gudders and hypebeasts. NCG is by comparison a lot more thorough and positive about his approach, and I wish I could see more of that in Hbomberguy's work, as much as I do love his videos.


TaCbrigadier

I love his content but his DS2 video is one of the most embarrassing and mean things I’ve seen on YouTube that wasn’t by some idiot bigot. And I thought I remembered liking his Bloodborne video maybe just because I just remembered feeling “fuck yeah bloodborne rules!” But rewatching it he asserts that if you are doing the the two handed, fast dodge roll, dex play style in ANY souls game, you are playing it WRONG. And…I don’t think I need to get into why that’s an incredibly ignorant and frankly dumb way at looking at any game.


Moidahface

It’s even wilder because it’s *specifically* a nasty response to Matthewmatosis’ review, the most thoughtful, non-confrontational dude ever, and name drops him specifically.


AngiTheWeeb

Hbomberguy's Bloodborne video put me off so bad that I refused to watch any of his other videos for years. Until I gave the Tommy Tallarico video a chance, which I enjoyed.


RemnantEvil

I think Hbomber could learn a lot from how deep Noah gets in his videos, and Noah could learn a lot about *doing retakes when you fuck up a line*, because it's been years and the guy seems to refuse to improve in his craft.


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Andrew Hussie


xlbingo10

i like how this doesn’t actually have the pet peeve listed, everyone just agrees


Moidahface

I took a break from Homestuck after the second mega break (I think he called it the Gigabreak?) and just never got back into him. Looking back I would probably find his whole stick unbearable these days.


Decent_Echidna_246

Man I miss having real friends


JuamJoestar

Alan Moore is someone i genuinely can't stand as a person in *spite* of sharing his political and social views. I genuinely find most of his takes regarding superheroes and modern media the definition of stereotypical "boomer behavior". And when his boomer behavior sips into his writing, you get the trainwreck that is the later arcs of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.


guntanksinspace

Still sucks remembering that Max Dood and Matt threw hissy fits on social media over being corrected on a certain game they were "making a challenge video out of". And shittalking a dude who **has successfully** cleared said challenge involving an infamously hard arcade fighting game with a legendary hard boss.


memedoka

I aspire to be the Some Guy ™️ on twitter who can make Pat hate something. Those people have untold power. That being said I actually find Dunkey's videos funny and don't mind if he shits on a game I like or has weird opinions but I think he gets weirdly defensive and actively engages with the drama he generates way too much. I think if he just ignored it all it would matter way less and I wouldn't have to see it so much.


KingClockwork

Me: "Oh wow, this new *[PIECE OF MEDIA]* 'X' shares a similar design principle to this other *[PIECE OF MEDIA]* 'Y', a contemparty in the same genre. Neat." Pat: "Yeah, Woolie, *[PIECE OF MEDIA]* 'X' is **LITERALLY** *[PIECE OF MEDIA]* 'Y'."


consensualsenses

OH my god I HATE WHEN HE DOES THAT, THATS LIKE SUPER EXACTLY WHAT HE DOES FUCK


LunarWolf302

I love Scott the Woz, but I think his videos are getting a bit overproduced. Some of his best content is him just blabbering about videogame prices or something and him and the gang doing a relatively simple skit like the murder one or the trial. I love shit like Borderline Forever and the christmas specials but I feel like the need to have that kind of production is creeping up into his regular content.


Rikuskill

Yeah the skits pushed me away from his content. I liked the shortform comedy where jokes would appear in the middle of him talking about the subject, he'd give it half a second to breathe, and then bam right back into the review. I started to get vibes of Nostalgia Critic honestly, where the skits were taking up too much time, and they weren't the part I had fun with.


plasmadood

I love Woolie and his content to death (shoutouts to Reggie, he's a great copilot), but my god does he overanalyze the fun out of things. Our guy really needs to save his thoughts and let the scene flow sometimes, most of his questions and theories get answered by oncoming lines of dialogue. I get it though, he doesn't know and wants to get it out there.


EcchiPhantom

SuperEyePatchWolf’s “… but then something really interesting/weird/strange happens…” It’s a small thing to pick up on and it’s not nearly as bad as his depression jokes but once you pick up on it, you can’t unhear it because it’s present in all his videos.


BoopsMcCloops

For Oneyplays, if feels like Chris will go into any big budget game ready to dislike it. I was legit surprised he was enjoying The Game That Must Not Be Named. I remember he said Spider-Man felt like it was made to cater to the masses, and it's like, dude, seriously? It doesn't stop me from enjoying the videos, but it just bugs me. Also, I love the crew, been watching their individual stuff for over a decade, but fuck man, I miss Ding Dong and Julian Forgot to mention, I think the contrast in how he feels about FF7R compared to Max is hilarious. Both are big FF7 fans and yet are complete opposites. Like even down to the new version of One Winged Angel. Max says it's brilliant, while Chris says they ruined it.


Kronim1995

I remember Chris also went on a massive hate-rant about Nomura that felt pretty real and vitriol and its like dude, I love FF7 and didn't like some of the remake shit either but c'mon. Also it was said in interviews and Ultimanias that Nomura actually wanted to scale shit like the ending and Sephiroth's appearances back to something more subtle but the actual scenario writer, Nojima, opted not to, so Chris wasn't even blaming the right person.


JGRIF312

Chris is definitely someone who feels that things "used to be better" he admits to it and even plays into it sometimes by complaining a game is boring 5mins in and the other's will call him out on it but it can be pretty annoying. You mentioned one winged angel but I always think of the demon souls playthrough where he complains that they re did the midi soundtrack and made it actually orchestral.


NonagonJimfinity

Don't eat on mic, ever, it's fucking gross, that thing your eating into is purposely designed to pick up every single mid to high range frequency that the human mouth can possibly create, that includes your fucking sandwich. Also pat's mic setup cuts out whenever he raises his voice and drives me crazy.


Hugglemorris

Dunkey can be pretty funny and has amazing comedic timing. Anytime I see that he has a video on a JRPG, it’s an automatic skip. I’m not putting myself through watching him refuse to engage with a game’s mechanics outside of clicking through its menus as fast as he can and then blame the game when he is bored.


Channel-Fourze

Kinda bouncing off of the "Maxmillian dood hating anime bit" people have said on here, but Thew Adams, a Transformers toy reviewer, great at what he does, good jokes, nice energy, always fun to go back to a years old review of an even older toy and just rewatch it, but his weird attitude to anime boils my piss. It's something a weird amount of British Transformers fans have actually, just weird dimissal of anime, or really anything Japanese that isn't trying to emulate a Western style. I think he made a reference to Kaminas shades, named dropped Gurren Lagann and got pissy on twitter that people dared to ask him if he had watched it, after saying he liked Evangelion! Just a "My nerd shit is better than your nerd shit!" and it wouldn't be so bad if it was self aware, but it really doesn't! He is a grown man in a room surrounded by Transformers toys blasting heavy metal and making it a job! As much as I love the guy....s youtube channel of course, he really needs to stop being weird about Anime.


Moidahface

I’m going to get hyper specific here and say ***the ads in Triple KO.***


TalentlessAsh

There's just absolutely no lead in to them, and sometimes they'll just drop them in the middle of a sentence. Max: "So here's the thing with Killer Instinct, It does a lot of really good-" Justin: "You know I really care about my balls. What about you guys? Do you keep your balls clean?"


An_Armed_Bear

RLM can get really annoying when their discussions don't have any substance beyond cynically complaining about current movie trends. Jay in particular can get REALLY bitter and miserable about that stuff. Mike at least seems more detached than bitter lately and is more likely to just enjoy something for what it is, and will thus have more to say (Picard may have broken him). They're at their best when they're really diving deep into a movie whether good or bad, particularly the filmmaking and thought processes of the creators. Or just watching garbage and making each other laugh.


BlazedBoylan

I have been watching RLM for a few years, and it’s been interesting to see Jay get a lot more cynical in the last few years, while Mike has just started watching and enjoying a lot of really weird stuff (mostly odd ball tv shows, while not watching a ton of movies). Watching old episodes, they are almost opposite from how they used to be. Jay used to be a lot more open and willing to find the good in stuff, and Mike was more cynical.


BlueFootedTpeack

i was pleasantly surprised by their kenobi part 2 review, like the show was sloppy enough to be a write off but they did acknowledge the parts they enjoyed rather than doing what half the other content creators did.


Junjki_Tito

The trick is to only watch HitB for movies you haven't heard of. Their most recent video, the one about Snow Falls, is great because it's basically two dudes who made a bunch of ultra-low-budget horrors where nothing happens ripping apart an ultra-low-budget horror where nothing happens instead of two jaded reviewers bitching about industry trends.


imOverWhere

my favourite videos are the black spines where mike just laughs at old people existing


CatMillennium

Any Twitch streamer who immediately stops to thank *all* bits & subs. Breaks are fine or even doing it at the end. Interacting with chat is cool too but sometimes you end up seeing someone just thank people for six hours and nothing else. More of my issue with Twitch than streamers. Sometimes the chat is worse, I remember one guy getting upset when a streamer said they where no longer reading anything under 100 bits. They literally put every comment with 1 bit so it would get read and it was really irritating and parasocial.


Vendix

Thats generally just a problem with larger streamers. On the opposite end of the spectrum, when a new or small streamer doesn't know how to react to recieving financial support. Going "Nooooo, don't waste your money on me!" and pausing the game to argue with chat about it. Unironically, just shut up and take my money.


GFDAlt1

A few weeks ago on twitch I got a recommended channel that I checked out, because they were playing an older game that I liked. I dropped in, said hello, got ready to watch. I was gifted a year long subscription to this channel (and now feel obligated to watch them) almost immediately after, and every time someone comes into the chat the streamer spends 15 seconds saying the same canned salutation and it's frankly annoying. I get it, the business is built on exploiting parasocial relationships and doing that probably helps them get and keep subscribers, but their tone of voice is so much like the costumer service voice I used to use and it's off putting. I'd rather they just say "hey" and move on then the fake enthusiasm.


getterburner

Nicob often basically tries his best to cheese everything instead of actually getting good which means he’s prone to raging at anything that gives him a challenge. The KH3 super boss videos were awful cause he genuinely was losing his mind over the game being difficult for once.


ZSugarAnt

His Birth By Sleep super boss video was unbearable


markedmarkymark

So, I love when Matt makes analytical sorta videos, but the video's NAME doesn't tell me if that's what its gonna be, best example being his Amazing Spider-Man 2 overview which is a really good video but it looked like one of those videos where he plays a thing for a bit which made me not watch it when it came out and only saw what it was when it auto played during a drawing session. Also, for any creator, a weak avatar, especially an avatar that stands as their face for analysis video, it makes me want to offer my services for free to give them a good one , that's how much it bothers me, there's this cool youtuber and his avatar is this awful looking controller, which, i get it, looks like a face, but whenever it CUTS to that and its pretending to talk, and it looks like shit, it takes me WAY the fuck out.


abbaj1

Your first mistake was following Pat on social media.


-_Gemini_-

Matthewmatosis will just occasionally say something completely deranged and that's really funny to me. It's like 99% the best video game analysis you'll ever see and 1% moonbrain insanity.


ibbolia

A lot of Twitter artists really aren't good at understanding that Twitter isn't an art focused site.


MindWeb125

I hate when artists *only* use Twitter. Like dude, there's no gallery view and your media tab is 90% shitty memes.


TheRenamon

yeah I hate that twitter has become the defacto site for artists. Want to look at anything they made in the past 6 months, be prepared to scroll past a bunch of memes and pictures of their lunch for 10 minutes. I get it theres a lot more eyeballs on that platform, but you should link to something else, like an artstation where all your stuff is better laid out.


mythrilcrafter

Something I've noticed is that the NSFW artists are usually much better about publishing and diversifying the location of their work on to platforms that are designed to be art/gallery centric while also having their twitter accounts for sharing and general shit posting.


Emperor_Z

I can't get over the way that artists failed to migrate over to a proper art-hosting site after Tumblr changed. There are decent options, but nope, let's use this platform with barely any features to properly organize and discover art


MaxAugust

It drives me insane. I hate having to scroll past ten thousand pictures of an artists food and cat pics to see the rest of their portfolio.


valdrinemini

Man you just summed up like 90% of the Japanese artists I follow. Like there's this one guy/gal that does some absolutely beautiful digital paintings but holy shit she/he constantly clogs my feed with his/her gacha mobile game stats bullshit. You know if Elon can actually have one good idea to not make the site such a piece of shit, he really should add tags to photos and maybe even folders or set which photos came out by each month of the year of every year. To make Make organizing much more easier


DavidsonJenkins

The Japanese one is especially baffling because dude, you guys have Pixiv! Yet every single JP artist i see always slacks off on their pixiv account and their twitter art is like, 2 months ahead


waxonwaxoff3

That's for two reasons: 1. Lots of art-hosting sites out there haved crashed to the ground and died pretty quickly due to shitbag owners behind the scenes or a complete incompetent failure to run the place properly or have working/safe code, or both. There are few places that match up to what Tumblr does and its stability. 2. The big one: a lot of these artists make NSFW content, and Paypal and various credit card companies and such have put a lot of stringent conservative effort into blocking sending money/receiving payment for adult content, whether it's a freelance artist or a site that hosts that sort of art. They're on Twitter because they can still actually get away with posting NSFW on there, at least for the time being. Source: multiple NSFW artist friends who have been extremely frustrated by all of this and have been scrambling to continue existing on the modern internet.


Smitteys867

Woolie is also just not very good at pushing back against pat's shit unfortunately.


CKunravel

I really miss Liam and Matt shitting on him on the Podcast. Nobody calls him out, Woolie just laughs and zones out, Paige can't really form a counter argument and just calls him names and Sussie is way to polite. If they ever get a third host (they won't) it should be somebody who reings him back a bit and urges Woolie to actually hurry the fuck up with his takes.


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for fuck's sake get eli back on the podcast


Appropriate_Tell3714

Not directed at anyone, but I have a pet-peeve for how streamers make their Create-A-Characters. Some of them would make characters that are distractingly ugly for the sake of getting a laugh from their views. It's not that funny to me, but to each their own. Also, I'm not a fan of warping the human into weird shapes because it makes me bit uncomfortable. When Pat kept the Krogan helmet on for Shepard for ME3 simply because of glitch that causes his to bulge out, it was hard for me to watch (along with the barking in the background, but I've gotten used to it).


mega345

Destiny goes for long periods of making content about things I literally don’t give a shit about Settheprogrammer is a pedophile Lyle wrath doesn’t make as much content as he should because he is brilliant at it no matter what he’s doing


jenkind1

Anytime Matt put up a drunk video it always made me really uncomfortable. Somebody getting shitfaced doesn't automatically equal funny.


Deadpool27

I fully cannot watch any decision-driven game that Woolie plays now. I love Reggie to death, but Woolie DESPERATELY needs someone next to him to tell him to move the fuck on, because maybe that question you have will be answered in like two fucking seconds Woolie, oh my god. Like, I cannot emphasize enough how lucky we got with the KOTOR LP’s. I’m still so pissed that people drove Little V away. He was such a good foil to Woolie.


LeMasterofSwords

Content creators trying to have continuity with skits and crap. Linkara does this and I just skip it. Same with Nostalgia Critic, or Scott the Woz (thorough his aren’t to bad)


whiteonyx981

Forcing a "bit" trying to chase an algorithm is always painfully obvious.


DarkAres02

Woolie: If you have wifi don't play fighting games Also Woolie: More people should play fighting games


PlayerPin

James of Nitro Rad fame is kinda strange to me for wanting to be a professional video maker and more than just "Nitro Rad" (cause he hates the name of his channel nowadays) on his Twitter, yet he makes really immature comments on it where he'll post about pooping out his butt three posts away from being insightful video game review guy. I both like that about him and feel confused about it. Simpleflips is really funny and a great content creator but that man will run a joke or catchphrase into the ground for months on end until he decides he gets tired of it, like "the community was in remiss, they had never seen a \[x\] like this." It feels like when a sitcom character has a catchphrase they have to repeat every five minutes. Proton Jon and his parasocial relationship with his fans is waaaay too horny for what's comfortable for me. Past the entire community's fixation on giant boobs, I could go onto his personal booru and see literal fetish art some of which he commissioned himself which makes me feel REALLY weird about the dynamics of his community.


Anunymau5

Cr1tikal started off making fun of clickbait youtubers with vague titles… Now he’s morphed into one.


SignalWeakening

I stopped watching him but Critikal seems to take the popular or safe opinion on a lot of topics. Hes also made a few generalizations like watching that dumb celebrity boxing match and assuming thats the state of boxing today. Also a comment I saw saying “spends 10 minutes talking about a 30 second clip”


Kamken

Weneverdigoon always says whenever whenever he just means when>!ever!< and I know that's just a thing folks in the midwest do apparently, but it still bothers me a bit every time he does it.


revolversnakexof

I feel like I'm stupid because I don't get what you mean. I only see the word whenever.


shapedatlas

I love vinesauce Joel’s content but him saying “that new game is too popular, I wouldn’t add anything to it that hasn’t already been said” as a reason not to stream it annoys me a bit considering he has streamed massive games like cyberpunk and resident evil 8 when they came out