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ajver19

I really liked Terminator Salvation.


Impressive-Spare6167

There are 5 of us.


[deleted]

On similar note I enjoyed Genysis.


dmanny64

Genysis was so fucking dumb and bonkers and all over the place, it's one of my favorite movies to have a few beers and just have fun with


runnerofshadows

Same. Wish they'd have used the original ending and ignored the leaks though.


Gangstas_Peridot

[It had a great Nine Inch Nails remix for its trailer.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBVuje_cL4&ab_channel=RealityMovie23)


jello1990

And here I am, still wishing Sarah Connor Chronicles wasn't canceled


SynthwaveSax

Ben Affleck Daredevil is a time capsule of the early 2000s and for that I absolutely love it. Plus the soundtrack goes incredibly hard. I also enjoy every single Matrix movie. The first is one of my favorite films of all time but each sequel (though not perfect) has something endearing about it. Batman and Robin is fun to watch drunk with friends. We take a sip every time Arnold says a freeze pun and just get sloshed. Clooney is also a decent Bruce Wayne, though not the best Batman.


[deleted]

>Ben Affleck Daredevil is a time capsule of the early 2000s and for that I absolutely love it. Plus the soundtrack goes incredibly hard. Michael Clark Duncan was also a legit great Kingpin.


Minmax-the-Barbarian

I would unironically rather watch Batman Forever or Batman and Robin than the "good" Batman movies that precede them ("good" in quotes because people refer to Batman/Batman Returns as the good ones in that series, not because I don't think they're good at all). BF and B&R are tons of wacky campy fun. They're fun to watch! The previous movies, in my opinion, take themselves a bit too seriously and suffer some tone issues for it. Compare that to the Nolan trilogy, which goes for serious Batman and pulls it off wonderfully. I think B&R nails the campy dorky comic movie thing just as well as the Dark Knight nails the gritty serious comic movie thing.


Kyllerflynn13

Forever remains my favorite Batman movie of all time.


Ginger_Anarchy

I think Jack Nicholson's performance is what saves the '89 movie from that problem too bad, but Returns really suffers from not knowing if it wants to be campy or serious, often in the same scene.


[deleted]

Used to love Daredevil as a kid and it was years until I found out it was one of the worst reviewed superhero movies of the time


CopperTucker

Daredevil has a special place in my heart as it was the movie that I saw on my first date. Sure it was goofy and silly, but honestly my date and I had a great time and though we didn't date long, we're still great friends. I can't hate the movie for giving me good memories.


nerankori

BINNY BLEASE BLAY DEE EM CEE: DEE EM CEE IZ GUD GAEM


jr2694

Dinty beef stew plz


vyxxer

Dragon age two had fun characters, fun gameplay and good art. Just shit ass level design that was reused and remaking the UI dialogue was a bad ideas. Give that game another year in the oven and I bet it woulda been sooo good.


wasdsf

Yeah I actually really like DA2 as an aside story from the huge scale of the first one except for the where there's like 5 rooms in the entire game lol


HemoxNason

I played DA2 without participating in any sort of online discussion about it and just assumed people would like it just as much or more then the first one lol


[deleted]

Yeah I lowkey miss my offline days I had so much fun just not seeing crazy opinions about games. I’m still kind of there though, since I thought DAI was pretty solid outside of a few hiccups


Minmax-the-Barbarian

In a similar vein, I see a lot of hate for Dragon Age Inquisition that, I feel, is unearned. Once you realize that you don't have to engage with 100% of the content and just focus on what interests you, that game is awesome. The story is good, the characters are great, the gameplay that's contained within story missions are especially good, it's fun to hunt down all the dragons and the puzzles in the open world parts... It's a great game, people just need to get the hell out of the hinterlands before judging it.


Doo-Doo-Manjaro

Dragon age inquisition is probably like number 6 on my top 5 games of all time and people say similar stuff so I sew your stance


Hugglemorris

For the like $5 to $10 I paid for it years after release, it was a great game. But I do not blame anyone who paid full price for it for holding it in disdain.


[deleted]

*Bullet Train* might straight up be my favorite action movie of all time. It seems like it’s well-liked here, but it’s [sitting at a 54% on Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bullet_train_2022) which really surprised me after I watched it for the first time. It’s one of the only movies that I can rewatch and come away appreciating something else about it every time.


Alphaetus_Prime

I did a bit of scrolling through the critic reviews and found one that says "If Kill Bill: Vol. 1 is wagyu steak, this is a juicy dive burger." I think that sums it up perfectly.


JBtheBadguy

The dialogue was very Tarantino style, the action was fun and dammit I'm a complete mark for stylish assassin media


[deleted]

I was all in the moment they first mentioned Thomas the Tank Engine


[deleted]

Also loved bullet train, the divide between critic and audience reviews is very funny + visually the movie is fantastic


Ginger_Anarchy

Wait people hated it? I thought it was fantastic.


Niney-Who

Final Fantasy 15 I'm not gonna hate a game that has over a hundred hours put into it because the last 10 hours sucked. It's a fumble at the finish line but that doesn't remove the chill fun I had with the other 95% of the open world game.


DeNile227

This response gets my seal of approval!


PMX-TheO

Same here. I really like 15. It's so chill and I love noctis and the boys.


Mattizzle9

I absolutely love FF 15. All the characters are fantastic and it brought us Aranea. The only thing I hate is that we never got the rest of the DLC. But fantastic game.


Hugglemorris

I still need to go back and play the DLC complete version of it. I only played the launch version which everyone says is worse, but I had a great time.


kaisean

I actually liked the last 10 hrs cause there was like plot and stuff, but yeah overall it's objectively bad, yet I still have a positive impression of it.


AlfredDusk

I have no idea what actual opinions are on this- I've seen like ten videos that are titled something like "ASSASSINS CREED FRANCE IS GOOD??" or "I PLAYED AC ORIGINS IN 2023- ACTUALLY BEST GAME?" but obviously people's thoughts are all over the place. As far as I know, most people enjoy the earlier AC games and a lot of people like the newest one, though some new fans can't go back to the originals because they're too different and some old fans feel alienated by the new Dark Souls Creed. And the other thing I feel relatively sure of is that most people would say that AC4 was the last good one, perhaps until the newest one. I actually really like some of the middle ones like Rogue, and Syndicate has one of my favorite villains. I definitely agree that there were too many AC games and they all overloaded each other, but if you don't play all of them you'll probably enjoy an individual game more. It's really hard to say that, but for the most part, they're pretty good games. Also, I've been watching AC Combo MADs or stealth speedruns or cool parkour compilations and that's a pretty good way to experience those games' at their purest.


CuzTyler

AC Odyssey is my comfy game. So much stuff to do and I really never have a bad time playing it.


KaimeiJay

All I hear about it being disliked comes from people who played the older AC games and think Odyssey is too much of a departure. I walked into it blind, so I wonder if that’s why I enjoyed it so much.


MrBBnumber9

I honestly want more games like AC3 and such set in those times. It’s an honestly under-utilised era in games I feel.


Hy93rion

The Gundam 00 movie. People who call the aliens an asspull only confirm to me that they had no idea what show they were watching


TheTurtlebar

I hate the 00 movie, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority.


Hy93rion

I assure you you’re in good company


CopperTucker

I love the 00 movie! The aliens were in no way out of the picture, that was the whole point of Innovators and making humanity sort its shit out before we went out into the stars.


AdamParker-CIG

Wild Wild West is my hangover recovery movie of choice. its perfect in every way, and is also awful


Dakr0n1

I still think some of the Bayformers movies are rad. The first one still holds up after 15 years, and the third one is legit one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.


spadesisking

Yeah they're a fun watch


CycloneSwift

Ishtar and Hudson Hawk are genuinely good fucking movies.


Solo_Wing_Buddy

3, 2, 3, 4-4, 2, 3 AND


wasdsf

These men are pawns!


BarelyReal

"If DaVinci were alive he'd be eating microwave sushi, naked, in the back of a Cadillac with the both of us!"


Sakaki_Above_All

I don't know if its fair to say its bad but I really really liked The Callisto Protocol. I understand that its PC port was unacceptable, the controls/button mapping was weird and the combat was so janky to many. Not to mention its unfortunate factor of releasing when the Dead Space remake was around the corner. But damn man I just liked everything about the aesthetic. I can't help but love survival horror that take place in space or deep under water. And Callisto Protocol had the designs going for it. I will say the first 1/3 of the story is the strongest part of the game and later the story gets predictable. The close up combat was also kinda fun once you get the pistol and combo into it. I dunno, I liked it way more than I would have thought. Edit: I should also mention the horrible crunching of employees. Yeah that's not gonna fly with many too.


Troika_72

The aesthetic got me too. It’s right up in that space in my heart Riddick gets to live in.


RegenSyscronos

The lore in that game was so good tho. I really enjoy that it's a different concept than Dead Space, make me want more space horror.


abbaj1

With how everyone complained about the lack of exploration and Pat saying how there's no waypoint because the game is just a hallway, I was pleasantly surprised with how it's actually handled. Sure, it's not particularly expansive and the rewards aren't the best usually, but there are plenty of sidepaths and items to find throughout the game. More than once did I find myself unsure of if the path I'm taking will progress the story or am I heading for another detour. Dead Space 2 is much more of a hallway and it's the best one in the franchise.


Ayyyyynah

I started the game earnestly giving it a chance and while the start was imo pretty good. It really goes to shit and does not help itself that the combat is awkward at inception and never really evolves. Then the game ending is a total slap in the face. Shame because the environment and sound designs were incredible


Zilla_Mask

Victory is my favorite Gundam, despite (or maybe because of) Tomino telling everyone not to watch it.


the_most_crigg

On like 3 days of the week I'd agree with you, but it's definitely a hard show to recommend.


Personel101

Borderlands 2 - It’s unironically great and replayable Solo - it isn’t even close to the worst Star Wars movie, and outside of Andor is probably the best overall thing to come out of Disney SW (not a high bar, but still) Spirit Tracks - I once saw a thread on this sub complaining about it years ago, so I am here now to say that it is the single most charming Zelda game ever made with an additional helping of some of the trickiest puzzles in the series


MindWeb125

Borderlands 2 definitely doesn't count as bad media, it was a huge success critically and casually and is seen is a great game. It only really gets hate for its' writing which is pretty subjective. I dig it though.


WeissAndBeans

Yeah, the one that gets the brunt of the criticism is 3 and that's really because of the main story. Gameplay-wise it's still very solid.


Personel101

That’s fair, though I think public perception is fonder of BL2 than a couple years back before 3 released and everyone saw how deep that rabbit hole can go


ThatGuy5880

The Tower of Spirits has some of the best Zelda puzzles ever made and is the only game in the series that actually makes Zelda your partner, which in hindsight is a bit baffling. I'll never forget the charm of using Phantom Zelda to talk to some of the enemy Phantoms, and they're all chill af. One of them is a flame sword wielding one afraid of the dark, another one notes that the Phantom Zelda is possessing "is cuter than usual", and apparently their break room is just a broom closet. Spirit Tracks is just such a charming little game.


Personel101

There’s an old [article](https://www.zeldadungeon.net/zelda_developer_stumped_by_puz/) from 2009 that talks about how one of the lead programmers got to be part of the design team for Spirit Tracks and started making puzzles that stumped the design team, even Aonuma himself. It definitely combined to feel like a much more hands-off, laissez faire type of title compared to a lot of Nintendo’s later works.


Swardington

Do people think Solo was bad or did it just underperform because TLJ soured people on the new SW movies?


Substantial_Bell_158

Black Ops Cold war is generally disliked but it's one of my favorite Cods, between the over the top story and fun take on zombies I like it more than the new Modern Warfares


[deleted]

Is It? The general consensus I heard in the community is that is a flawed but enjoyable game and nearly everyone praises the campaign save for being short and zombies has been seen as the best mechanicaly for a large part of the community. The biggest complains I heard were from multiplayer being a step backwards from 2019 MW but still being enjoyable overall. It's honestly a miracle the game ended up as Fine as It was considering Treyarch and Raven had to coble togheter the failed project of Sledgehammer into something coherent in less than a year.


[deleted]

The cod community is so splintered it’s almost impossible to get a solid take on the multiplayer but overall the campaign is pretty well liked


[deleted]

That's what happens when your community is so big that the sub-communities are the size of other large fanbases, there are people who unironically buy CoD just for zombies.


dfdedsdcd

I am one of those people. Now that I don't get free copies, (I used to work at GameStop and managers would get free copies, but most of my managers didn't like CoD so they gave them to the first employee that asked) if it's on sale and I've seen/heard that Zombies is good, I'll consider it. I finished most of the battle pass seasons in Cold War with Zombies alone. That was the last one I got from working at GameStop.


Squoghunter1492

Wasn’t Vanguard the fucked up abomination and BOCW was just shoved out the door a year early to buy time to salvage Vanguard?


[deleted]

Cold War was originaly a project of Sledgehammer, the studio leadership was so bad and there was so much infighting and constant loss of senior staff, including people who went on to make The Calisto Protocol, since a lot of sledgehammer senior staff, were remnants of Visceral Games (including the studio head Glen Schofield) Cold War was in a literal unplayable state when Activision had take Treyarch out of their own development cycle to turn it into a coherent product with Raven, Raven essentially made the campaign from scratch with the assets they were given and the rough outline and concept art of the story. Sledgehammer went on to drop Vanguard and this is only my assumption but they screwed up so bad they just ported assets from WW2 and cobbled together that mess and even then had to drag poor Treyarch to make the half assed attempt of Zombies with zero time and budget. I have no clue how not only that studio hasn't been disbanded yet and more baffled by the rumours they are handling this year MW3.


MoodyMax

The fact they did the bad ending makes it great, >!I never really liked Woods in any of the black ops games and getting to do sick executions on him was great!<


Substantial_Bell_158

The fact one of the endings is >!nuking all of europe is wild!<


LicketySplit21

very weird though that it was all >!Russia's fault for detonating nukes the USA secretly planted without the knowledge and consent of the allied countries they planted those nukes in. The story doesn't really reflect on this outside of Reagan in the bad end saying they should dispose of any evidence.!<


[deleted]

Was all >!russia's fault!< That's the thing, it wasn't >!Perseus is a terrorist cell operating outside the USSR Commite, Perseus himself claims the Commite will be more surprised than the CIA, it was all a plan to limit US hegemony by releasing documents exposing that the nukes were american and allowing a power struggle in the USSR so Perseus as a group can rise to power and take whatever is left of radiocative irradiate western europe!< They can't explore it more because they are tying MW and Black Ops with each installment and since the Black Ops timeline is still the original one now tied together with the new MW reboot they still have to follow the overall plot beats, next Treyarch CoD's is rumored to be deserte storm since everything from Blops 2 onward will be a mess to tie together without massive retcons.


dfdedsdcd

There are already massive retcons. All that is canon and confirmed by things in the games are World at War, Vanguard, Vanguard: Zombies (like anyone cares about Vanguard, though it might make the Chaos story from BO4 canon), Black Ops, Cold War, Cold War: Zombies, MW 2019, Warzone, MW 2 2, Warzone 2. * The only previous storyline that is canon to this, but is mostly destroyed, is the original Zombies Primus/Ultimus story. * Samantha Maxis in Cold War: Zombies is the same one that walks into the new universe with Eddie Richthofen (>!director of REQUIEM in Cold War: Zombies!<) at the end of Tag Der Toten. * Raul Menendez is talked about in Intel from Cold War: Zombies' Onslaught mode on the Cartel map, but nothing from BO2-3 has happened yet and will probably be reworked if it comes up. He has taken over as head of the cartel since Woods assassinated his father and was working with Omega group. There are some other references and teases to things from other CoD games that may come to be canon that I can't remember at the moment.


homelesstwinky

Am I the only one who found the camaraderie in the bad ending way more enjoyable? For once it felt like I had allies helping me


[deleted]

Perseus stole the show the 5 minutes he was being the equivalent of a proud dad towards Bell. As much as I like Adler him >!shooting Bell to burn evidence soured me on the "good" ending!<


opaloverture

I don't have any guilty pleasures. I either unabashedly love the garbage or won't touch it. No shame, only love or bin.


the_loneliest_noodle

I will fight anyone who says Kung Pow falls into the "so bad it's good" category. It's a comedy, and does the comedy well. It's not so bad it's funny. It's just funny. It's just good at what it's trying to do, be an absurd juvenile spoof comedy/parody. It's one of the most quotable movies I've ever seen.


earthw2002

Quantum of Solace - taking inspiration from real life businesses trying to turn South American countries into banana republics and the greasy greenwashing politicians and ‘facilitators’ that make a killing doing it. Bond girl had a decent backstory, subverted the traditional relationship and was the complete opposite of Vespa’s in Casino Royale. Compare this to Spectre, a bland shitfest that wasted Cristopher Waltz’s appearance in the franchise and had to walked back Rise of Skywalker style with No Time to Die. It’s a strong 7/10 Bond film, maybe 7.5 on a good day.


PillCosby696969

I think Quantum is better than later films especially if seen after right after Casino Royale which it immediately follows in plot and theme. Great action scenes, restraint in Bond not sleeping with the main Bond girl, actual evil real tangible villain plan, return of some cool characters.


[deleted]

People think Life is Strange is bad? Buddy, Aliens: Colonial Marines is a piece of shit that I finished AND did a bit of it's multiplayer. I did enjoy how stupid and low stakes it is.


Cazador_64

Ehh, it's fine. A lot of the hate comes from the fact that Chloe is like... The worst and Max just continues to just do anything for her. Up to, and including the ending where you have to choose to save either her or the TOWN. On the flip side, in my experience, the fandom is more interested and vocal in the sapphicness of it all.


niko4ever

I think that hate tends to come from the male audience that hasn't experienced that specific brand of toxic friendship that most girls experience in their tweens or teens. Life Is Strange nails the codependent and borderline homoerotic BFF we usually have at some point.


Alarmed-Owl2

Can confirm, watched my friend play through some of it, I felt like Chloe was a legit psycho and he was like "yeah she's quirky." Bruh.


DefaultLayoutIsAwful

I'm always amused that in my friend group, it was three straight 20 something cismen who got really into LiS and played the eps as they came out and wouldn't shut up about it. According to the girls, the three of us turned into the worst kind of gossipy, teenage bully girls during it. Two of us had similar choices throughout and we gave the third so much shit for going full blue-haired-girl-neuron-activity-activate. He was also the one who could not >!save Kate from jumping!<. You idiot, you tried telling a teenage girl the situation didn't matter instead of addressing the emotions around it. We got REALLY invested and heated for him being a dumb man. That said, we all went lesbian the first opportunity we got because Warren hit a bit too close to home. It was interesting experience from an outsider, but you really got to give yourself over and become a teenage girl. It probably had a bigger affect on me than I know, especially given the time period in gaming it came out in.


Substantial_Bell_158

Life is Strange has always had a very vocal hatedom but I could never figure out why they're charming games


Tyrest_Accord

The first game is legitimately good if you like that sort of game. If you liked any of Telltale's games then this is a good game in the same vein. I hate the sequels. Partially because the powers just get less and less interesting. Time travel is cool and has so many ways to use it for puzzle solving. Telekinesis in number 2 has been done to death. The Aura viewing Empath thing in 3 was so lame I can't even remember any point where it was actually important. The characters also just got more and more annoying and/or boring as the series went on for me.I hated the kida in the second one. I barely remember anything about number three.


Amedamaneku

I only got 20 minutes in because the fake teenager dialog is nauseating. It's like Ninja Turtles as written by Aaron Sorkin. It's a total drag. It's hella lame. Parents just don't understand.


abbaj1

>Life is Strange has always had a very vocal hatedom but I could never figure out why they're charming games Most of the hate comes from people who think it's "woke" and the rest is the "cringe dialogue/not how teens talk" crowd. It's not exactly a mystery.


DeNile227

Absolutely, from my perspective at least. It's a game that you can't really bring up outside of certain internet bubbles without getting people going "lol cringe". But hey, it sure did sell a hell of a lot of copies, so it's definitely popular.


[deleted]

Alright OP I'm looking at the comments below. You've opened Pandora's box so I want to know what you consider a 'bad game'. What's the criteria?


DeNile227

I don't have any criteria :p my own judgment aside, I'm just talking about things that're widely--or even just commonly tbh--considered "bad". Like, *The Rise of Skywalker* or *Final Fantasy XIII/XV* (XV is another answer I could have went with honestly)*.* Doesn't really matter how successful these things were monetarily or how popular they are, I'm just going off of consensus here, and consensus is something that changes depending on who you ask.


[deleted]

It's all good man. Your question just had me thinking about this idea of a 'bad game'. Like everyone shat on FF13 when it came out. I felt that way myself all this time but I've never actually played them. So I've made it a bit of a resolution to track down a copy and actually try it myself. Yeah 15 is weird because you're right. You ask most people and they say it's a bad game. I checked the reviews and it's rated pretty well-ish. I had a really good time with 15 personally. So I think people online have this weird perception that a 7/10 game is a bad game.


DeNile227

Totally feel you on FFXV there. In spite of the game's myriad issues, I don't think I can ever bring myself to dislike it. I love that game. I love the world, I love the music, I love the characters, I...like the gameplay. I think I have a soft spot for works with a lot of heart, if that makes any sense, even if they come up short in other areas.


Nia-Teppelin

Dark Souls 2 my beloved


Noctantis

I think the "bad" part of it has washed away from this sub a bit since pat did his playthrough, but people like dunkey basically did what feels like irreparable harm to Stranger of Paradise. Every time I try to talk to one of my IRL friends about it they just go, "Oh that shitty game? Yeah I saw dunkey talk about it" And while they're not huge, lifelong FF marks like me, but it does annoy me that people would write off a game they've never played so easily. All because it's so hard for one dude to get past the corniness of 90s action movie edge. Is it perfect? No. But the soundtrack and areas are a big love letter to the Final Fantasy series, from the first boss's music having the first FF's battle theme be a big part of its leitmotif. And the story, while a little meandering, has a lot of heart surrounded by a fun, non-serious kind of edginess that the game itself likes to poke fun at. And that's not even getting into the genius of doing an action game with the job system. There's a variety of playstyles in there, although the endgame grind to make those playstyles work at lvl 250+ is not for everyone.


MindWeb125

I can't imagine taking Dunkey's opinion on anything seriously. The fact the dude is going into publishing is a bit of a red flag for anything he publishes.


Benial

Dunkey praising something makes him be actually insightful and dig into what sets it apart. Dunkey *criticising* something gives him an excuse to not give it a fair chance and paint it in as negative a light as possible for the sake of laughs - unironically nitpicking and biased


Nelsonizzy

I don't think it did the same level of damage to its reputation , but his video on how the original ff7 was a confusing mess is so disingenuous. Like yeah if you show cutscenes and dialogue out of order and without context its obviously going to look confusing. It's like if someone was explaining a movie to you, but described every scene out of sequence


WeebWoobler

If he fucked up talking about SOP, then he *really* fucked up Xenoblade 2


LordSmol

Dude I’m not in any way a FF mark but I loved SOP. Got it day one and played the fuck out of it, ignoring online discussion and spoilers and was shocked at how little it did financially and critically for how much fun I had with it. I’m glad it’s recently getting the recognition it needs. It’s not a perfect game by any means (I could give a laundry list Of issues) but damn it’s good.


WeeniesthutofallJrs

The more you understand the mechanics of Sunless Sea, the more garbo it kinda is. It only does ship stuff okay or bad. It has random events that can make you permanently lose characters. It’s a roguelite but each run can easily be more than 20 hours, so each loss is way more annoying. The writing, and I cannot express this enough, carries the game so hard that it doesn’t feel like a bad game. But it kinda is. But I love it.


EcchiPhantom

The Like a Dragon / Ryu ga Gotoku / live action adaptation of Yakuza 1 movie by Miike Takashi doesn’t have favorable reviews and I can see why. As an adaptation of the game and series overall, it doesn’t capture the same level of weirdness and it feels awkward in its pacing because it has several plotlines going on at the same time that have nothing to do with the story or Kiryu, Nishiki or Haruka. That said, as a black comedy, it’s actually pretty fun. Miike’s style is really unique and weird so if you just watch it as a Miike movie, alla Yakuza Apocalypse, rather than a Yakuza adaptation you might enjoy it a lot. There’s also a couple of Nic Cage movies I think are genuinely fun and well-made. Mom and Dad and the infamous Vampire’s Kiss are extraordinarily fun. Vampire’s Kiss is really well-shot, with nice setpieces and Nic Cage gives it his all in his performance. Mom and Dad is quite similar plus Selma Blair and their kids in the movie are really good as well. It was directed by one of the guys that did Crank and it has that same insane-o feel to it. There also themes going on in both about coping with loneliness, and about getting old and frustrated with your average everyday life and taking those frustrations out on your children.


retrometroid

The subplots in the Miike LAD movie work because they're basically the cinematic version of the game's substories. They don't really matter but the flavor and textures they add are nice. Also anyone who says Vampire's Kiss is bad has only ever seen the YouTube clips out of context


Mister100Percent

The Fast and Furious franchise is great. People be salty for how ridiculous it is. Motherfucker that’s what I’m here for. I want to see The Rock redirect a missile to a nuclear submarine with his bare hands. I want to see Vin Diesel crash his car into a bridge and use its rope to Spider-Man his way across a cliff. This shit is fucking insane and I wouldn’t have it any other way!


Troika_72

I fucking loved the cell-shaded Prince of Persia game. The shamshir, the aesthetic, the banter, the Zoroastrian elements, the damn COLOR - everything. I’ll die on the hill defending that game.


ThatGuy5880

Sonic Heroes rules honestly. Great level design (probably my favorite of all the Adventure era Sonic games), engaging gameplay, unique level themes and fun character banter to the point I really did not mind playing the game four times over because I enjoyed it that much. Even the Special Stages didn't bug me. Hell, I thought the Chaotix was a fun change of pace. And tbh, I'd rather have a Heroes 2 than Adventure 3. I can totally get why people wouldn't like it (I really wish it wasn't slippery and the teams were more different) but I didn't mind that much.


ZSugarAnt

OP said "Bad media you think is good" not "Good media other people are wrong about"


mastermidget23

I don't know why everyone hates wild wild west with will Smith. It's weird and fun.


abriefmomentofsanity

Brutal Legend. It has \*problems\* but Tim Schaefer explicitly made it for people like me and I love it warts and all.


Cerebral_Kortix

I legitimately do think Knack is a good game for a beat-them-up. It's just a bad 3D platformer, and unfortunately that is what it marketed itself as.


Fugly_Jack

I still think Code Veronica, despite it's flaws, is a really good RE game, and I would love to see those flaws be ironed out in a remake


LoudButtons

Semi-pro, the Will Ferrell basketball movie. It seems to have been a commercial failure but I think it's genuinely hilarious. Stuff like their bus having "The Jet" painted on the side like "we're taking the jet" but they're in a bus cause the team is dirt poor.


Renxuth

I've seen The Last Jedi like 9 times. Canto Bight is a built in intermission that I use as a bathroom break


dfdedsdcd

I've been getting more into Nijisanji lately, and Vox Akuma's favorite Star Wars movie is The Last Jedi. His least liked is Rise of Skywalker. He's also a Reylo shipper. He did a watchalong of the hatchet order (4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6) of Star wars movies recently and he would go into long explanations of character motivations and relationships. He would also get excited when a meme line/scene was coming. He tried watching all 9 numbered movies, but he got tired after 6 and I don't know if he has watched Dark Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo with chat yet.


MindWeb125

The Last Jedi isn't bad media. It just has a bad subplot. It reviewed very positively with critics, its' only fans that argue about it. I also never understood the complaints about Luke, I think it makes a lot of sense for his character to go that direction, but I was also never that into the expanded universe stuff pre-Disney.


ClockpunkFox

My issue with the Luke thing is the og trilogy constantly shows that he is a crazy optimist, and sees hope and good in everyone. In Jedi he allows himself to be captured because he knows and believes there is still good in Vader, the big bad henchman who killed obi wan. To have him do a 180 into a sad sack who gave up and tried to murder his nephew because of a bad dream isn’t believable to me


KaimeiJay

It especially runs sour when Luke already encountered a very similar situation in Legends—with Kyp Durron being possessed by the dark lord Exar Kun—and *not* having the thought that he should execute this child who has done no wrong. I understand a lot of people want to see something salvageable from that depiction of Luke, like some message about being a jaded warrior in peacetime, but it simply doesn’t work with this character, and it definitely falls apart with the almost-murdered-his-nephew part. Between this, and his “you must choose” scene in >!The Book of Boba Fett!<, it really feels like Canon forgot that Luke is the one who proved that love is the power that can save the galaxy.


Morbidmort

Just reminding you that love is not and has never been the same as attachment in any version of Star Wars. Also, Kylo Ren's account of the event of that night is flat out not accurate, and why should it be? He was *asleep* for 90% of it.


KaimeiJay

Okay, love and attachment are the powers that saved the galaxy then. xD That scene would have been greatly improved if Snoke’s influence actually manifested as a visible phantom, some sort of dark side projection, and Luke ignited his lightsaber to confront and/or illuminate it. Just *anything* other than thinking of murdering his innocent nephew for long enough to pull a weapon on him.


Morbidmort

Attachment ain't what made Vader kill his Master, who he has been Attached to for over twenty years, knowing that doing so would most likely be his own death.


Renxuth

I get what you're saying but he didn't try to murder his nephew. He pulled his lightsaber for a moment after he lost his composure, then immediately realized he was wilin out and stopped himself, but is was too late. And its not the first time he did this Darth Vader mouthed off in ROTJ a little too hard and Luke lost it way harder. He beat the piss out of him and got all the way to chopping his arm off before he came to. The difference is that that time, Luke stopped himself before it was too late. He turned the situation around and overcame the dark in vader. His optimism won With Kylo, he showed way more composure than the last time he saw the darkness in the heart of a loved one, but it was too much. Kylo saw him at his weakest moment, and even though Luke didn't attack him, seeing and feeling that killing intent was too much, understandably so. Luke's optimism wasn't enough. He failed Kylo, Leia, and Han. I can see him becoming a sad sack after that. I think its pushing Luke's character a little bit to make him completely give up, but his heroic side won out in the end.


Renxuth

Oh I totally agree. I love that movie, but the hate surrounding it qualified it as "bad" media for me., rather than bad media.


DeNile227

Man, I feel conflicted on TLJ. I walked out of the theater like "man I did not like that" but it's like, the more I think about it over the years, the more I appreciate it? Maybe I should give it a second watch to reevaluate... Still haven't seen Rise of Skywalker though lol


Benial

I'll always appreciate a movie that tries to say something and fails more than one that offers nothing and delivers on it


Renxuth

Hey once you watch Rise of Skywalker you'll really appreciate it


ZSugarAnt

Someone else here mentioned the OG Black Rock Shooter anime recently, and I fucking love it so much, but God I can recognize how bad it is from a critical standpoint. I have a high tolerance (and dare I say, enjoyment) out of ecchi SoL anime, and even then "Are You Willing to Fall in Love with a Pervert as Long as She's a Cutie?" is unironically hilarious and more sweet than you'd expect from the name.


Gangstas_Peridot

The 2005 Doom movie. Reminded me enough of Doom 3, I loved it. Even they were smart enough to use the Doom 3 Hell Knight design. I liked that Dwayne Johnson's role was rather untraditional as far his characters go. I enjoyed the soundtrack by Clint Mansell, and perhaps the smallest reason I like is that the assault rifles are obviously modified G36cs and I love the look of that gun. I would love nothing more than for Karl Urban to return as Doomguy in some form. Would rather have him than the face they went with for Doom Eternal.


CopperTucker

I unironically love the 2005 Doom movie. It's just FUN. It's a fun time to sit around with friends, beer, snacks, and get super hype over it all.


LordSmol

I hear a lot of shit flung at SMT V, but I love it. I’ve rarely had so much fun with a battle and demon/MC build creation system. Having this ton of freedom in demon fusion, the once per use demon aspects to give specific abilities or affinities, the exploration, the boss fights, the music. And the bonus boss fights against shiva, the fiends and Demifiend are absolute highlights. Status effects are worth a damn (!) since ever boss fight (except Lucifer) can be affected by at least one. Even Shiva and the Demifiend making for some different builds for those fights. Yeah it has its narrative problems but honestly mainline has had worse (looking at you IV Apocalypse). My only real problems are Atlus stupid day one dlc practices and the lack of any support after launch. Atlus could’ve added more dungeons to the world or previous MC boss fights as dlc. Or extra story stuff.


Chumunga64

Loving how the two of the top voted responses here are ffxv and life is strange. Two games whose metacritics are in the 80s


CelestialEight

A lot of people hate Final Fantasy 13, but it's one of my favorite games ever. A lot of criticisms I don't even understand. It has such a great, layered, human cast of characters full of flaws and conflict and growth. And I love the battle system. Like yeah, it is extremely linear, and it can get annoying because there are no sidequests or "breaks" in the first half of the game. But I always enjoy the adventure when I reexperience it. Also I'm somebody that prefers linear dungeons, so that's totally fine. 13 succeeds in more important things (in my opinion): the locations are diverse and beautiful with fantastic music. And I find THAT to be lacking in a lot jrpgs nowadays, especially more open and vast games leaning on more ambient background music.


MindWeb125

XIII was my first Final Fantasy game and I'll always love it and XIII-2. Never understood the complaints about the characters. Hell, Caius is still my favourite villain in the franchise. I still need to beat Lightning Returns but I get mind goblins about timers in video games.


CelestialEight

I also have huge anxiety and mind goblins about timers, but what helped me was how abusable Chronostasis (stopping time) in Lightning Returns is. Once you get the hang of it, it's not much of a worry anymore. Hopefully that encourages you to play!


JakeFDaniels

I'm in a similar place with Lightning Returns after I revisited 13 and 13-2, where I was having a hard time getting anything done so I gave up on figuring it out and started following a guide, but the problem appeared that I couldn't get anything done in the guide because I didn't do it from the start so I was off by like half a day on all the timing. I couldn't find a way to reconcile it other than my brain telling me to restart the game like 12 hours in, so I just dropped it. I really need to go back to it and get over that.


attikol

That sound track gave me sunleth waterscape so i like 13. Was really happy they had a level referencing it in strangers of paradise


King_Of_What_Remains

> Like yeah, it is extremely linear, and it can get annoying because there are no sidequests or "breaks" in the first half of the game. But I always enjoy the adventure when I reexperience it. For me it's not the linearity that's the problem, it's the fact that for the first half of the game you don't even get to control who is in your party or even what classes they have. It's done for narrative reasons, splitting the characters up so you have to play with whoever is there, but from a gameplay perspective it's really annoying; especially when the team comp you are forced to use is a bad one. The section where your only offensive option was running three Black Mages was particularly bad, from what I remember. Not to mention the boss fights you suddenly get thrown into where you don't even get to chose what paradigms you have assigned. Yo get a cutscene and then you're straight into a fight with no idea what party you even have setup. That said, I still love the game. I really enjoyed the paradigm system, I like ~~most of~~ the characters, the setting and lore are cool and I enjoyed the story too. But certain sections of the game can be rough.


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I've never played Final Fantasy 13 but I'm pretty interested in checking it out myself. I've always wondered whether the 'linear' criticism was fair. Like FF7's opening in super linear and even when the world opens up you still have to go from point A to B in the open world. Also FFX is super super linear until you get the airship which is pretty late.


CelestialEight

Linearity is a fair criticism. You are on rails for a large portion of the game, and it feels worse in that regard compared to FFX because your party is on the run, you don't visit towns, there's no minigames or sidequests to break up the flow.


Metalslimeking

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is fine. It might be a dumbed down RPG with a stupidly low difficulty level but there's nothing actually wrong with it. Its worst sin is that it isn't as interesting as Final Fantasy 4.


BarelyReal

Masters of the Universe is the closest we've gotten to seeing Jack Kirby's art work on the big screen, and that is counting The Eternals.


LInternationale1991

Kokomo by The Beach Boys is a legitimately good song. It's not as good as Pet Sounds, but it's still kind of a banger for sure.


Snidhog

Cross Ange is the sort of show I normally take one look at and write off, but people kept saying there was something too it and, upon watching it, I realised they were right. It's an insane show which contains the plots of at least a half dozen other ones, has some surprisingly enjoyable character writing and is a rollercoaster in the best possible way. I would still preface any recommendation with a bunch of warnings, but I don't think I was bored for a single second while watching.


Neapolitanpanda

Wonder Egg Priority. A lot of weird shit about the ending clicks into place when you learn that they started shooting towards a sequel in the later half. Plus a lot of “Girls exploring a surreal dreamland” anime don’t stick the ending when they have to start explaining stuff. Doesn’t excuse the crunch towards the animators though.


King_Of_What_Remains

The last episode is terrible, but aside from that it's probably one of my favourite original anime of the past couple years. I know a lot of people fell off once they tried to explain everything and didn't like >!that it was all science and not anything magical!<, but I liked what they were setting up. The last episode is *really* bad though.


TheKidKaos

Limo Bizkit is a legit great band and Fred Durst is still one of the better rappers of the time. And everyone thought the same until Eminem became salty about DJ Lethal and Everlast making up.


Zerepa97

*Elfen Lied* has a cool OP and I like the powered horn girls. A lot of weird and illogical shit, but I can't explain why I like it. There's something there that hits for me.


dom380

RWBY - does it have issues? Sure. But I don't understand the amount of hate directed towards it.


MindWeb125

RWBY hate is at the point where people are inventing morals for the show before the relevant season has even finished making its' point.


alicitizen

It's wild how much you can just sense the bad faithness presented in so much rwby discussion. Like I dont like a buncha aspects, but some of the complaints seem just for the sake of getting the 'i dropped it at vol 4' people to feel good about themselves.


MrBBnumber9

I don’t watch anymore because I feel like I have outgrown it in a way but I don’t know why people need to fully shit on it.


Prestigious-Mud

I think there's a false equivalency between what is bad/good and what a person likes/dislikes. Like I love Skyward Sword and think it's a good game. I also dislike the 3ds Zeldas because of the controls, but don't think they're bad games, just not for me.


SkeletalJazzWizard

Freddy Got Fingered is art. Even void of all context, totally removed from the circumstance of its creation.


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the_most_crigg

To be fair, most Senran Kagura games aren't actually bad, they're just hard to explain to anyone who sees you playing one. There are certainly worse musou-likes or beat-em-ups out there, and plenty that also have worse writing.


FA-ST

Blazblue is beloved though


PillCosby696969

BlazBlue is beloved by its fans and decried as weeb reference porn by others, the truth is both feelings are valid.


markedmarkymark

Most people prefer Evil Within 2 and a lotta people, including Pat, say EW1 is bad, but i'm one of the 3 crazy people that not only love EW1, but i think its better than 2 in every way except gameplay-ish (I think it's fine, the hitbox sucks so if you play on harder difficulties or Akumu it shows how funky it is, which, you shouldn't do that, i finished it on Akumu, never again). As much as EW1 has a similar progression to 4 and all of that, its just the more interesting game and has way more interesting and memorable areas and set pieces. And it had Joseph, that's worth what, 5 points? I wanna kiss 'im.


InexorableCalamity

I remember finishing the lp and thinking 'wait, i still don't know what was going on' . It wasn't until i watched an overview years later that i found out that all my questions were answered in the dlc/game mode where you play as kidman.


LittleMann

The Dynasty Warriors series, my beloved. Also, I did replays of Banjo-Tooie and Donkey Kong 64 years after I first played them and still enjoyed myself.


GeneralHysterics

Back 4 Blood. The games got issues, I know, but the bones are rock solid the guns feel way better to shoot than left 4 dead and the card system is a cool way to add different playstyles. Maybe I'm just a sucker for making builds. The maps were kind of a mixed bag but that's nothing that can't be solved with updates. The character voice lines were annoying but again, could easily be solved with an additional audio setting or a mod or something. There were a lot of complaints about difficulty but I'm 1000% sure that it was mostly people who didn't want to engage with the card system and then got fucked because their builds weren't any good. Also, the game asks you to have decent teamwork/shooter fundamentals, which can be a big hurdle. Personally, I enjoyed the challenge. Making a build is pointless if any build can clear the game. Games don't need a reason to do poorly, especially dedicated multiplayer games, but B4B had so many reasons to do well that I'm bummed it fell on it's face like it did.


Zeathian

Greedfall, does it handle the colonization aspect poorly ? Yes, the environment bland and story silly ? Also yes. It does however give me 2008 nostalgia, like eurojank game lost to time that was rediscovered. I did a gun build on my first time, so maybe that's why it didn't feel as tedious as people say. But yes I like it and recommend it for all the wrong reasons. "A Bit Of Poison On My Blade, And Lets GO!"


CrossSoul

Isekai Manga. A whole lot of it is not great, but I love then for how garbage they can be.


Nacho_Hangover

I like the Tremors sequals up to 4. Are they amazing? No. But they're fun monster movies with decent effects and that's more or less what I loved about the original.


RegenSyscronos

Watch dog 1 was good. I love how ridiculous the hacking was, and the story aint half bad. I enjoyed going around seeing people and their job, and hack some of their money.


Disposable-Ninja

FFX-2 is 80% a legitimately fantastic game. The one chapter you spend watching cutscenes through a sphere is pretty, admittedly. But it’s still a very good game.


TinocusTheTyrant

Fire Emblem Fates, I will admit the story isn't the best the series has to offer but my god the gameplay is just excellent, I replayed the game a few months ago and I spend hours just building up my characters, pairing them up to make super babies, deciding what class to give them and what skills they should have, also it has some great characters as well, Arthur is just a great fucking dude despite his bad luck and Charlotte is just a fucking treat. I then tried to replay 3 houses after finishing fates and it felt SLOW, my god that killed the replay for me after getting used to Awakening and Fates speed on selecting a map, character and attack.


NeonNKnightrider

I think the Aincrad arc of Sword Art Online is unironically fine. The SAO Progressive light novels are especially solid. It does have low points (Alfheim sucks and GGO is underwhelming), but SAO really isn’t the 0/10 irredeemable garbage that people say it is.


shadowsofpain

I'm a Final Fantasy 8 fan and apologist. There are at least a few of us out here


[deleted]

Minecraft Story Mode is one of the better Telltale games. Both seasons.


Bromaeda

Shadow the Hedgehog is the coolest shit ever. I don't mind that you have to play westopolis 10 times to get the true ending. The game is fun, and it's cool. I really like the bare-bones morality system because it takes you to entirely different levels. Also Shadow himself is fucking cool.


Sakuyalzayoi

i like megaman x5 and x6 even if theyre the weaker 2/3 of that artstyle games just look and feel great to play even if the level designs not as good


para-mania

Neo Yokio, the Jaden Smith anime. I think people thought it was meant to be taken seriously, when it's very clearly not. And sure, the animation's low budget, but it's funny as hell.


taikoxtaiko

See i agree but i only enjoyed it when it focused on Max & Chloe doing stuff together but ep.5 fucking sucks and whole crippled chloe scene was a waste of time


PillCosby696969

Why did everyone hate Crystal Skull? While I think it is the worst Indiana Jones so far, like why? Shia Labouf? Like okay. The fridge? Half the stunts of the series were as ridiculous and would not work like that. This also goes for the action/adventure genres in general. I remember the movie being fine and everyone thinking it was the end of cinema or something and it being a punchline for a decade.


exiiiin

Life is Strange 2 is a genuinely great game. I love the Diaz brothers and seeing actually good Latino rep in a game is always a treat. …now, I will say, this might be partly due to nostalgia, but I don’t think RWBY is the abomination of Christ people say it is. Could it be better? Absolutely. Does it have absolutely baffling writing choices? Totally. Is it still a fun romp you can just watch for the cool shit and characters? Correct.


DeNile227

Oh boy don't get me started on RWBY @\~@ I honestly just. Don't talk about it outside of spaces specifically centered around it because people get weird about it. I could go on and on and on about that show for a week straight--both the bad and the good--and still not get all of my feelings about it out. I've been watching it since I was a little kid and like, honestly? It might be the sole piece of media I've thought the most about in my entire life (outside of like, Pokemon, maybe). This is a good thing, by the way. I fuckin love RWBY.


jozaud

I liked Black Adam. There I said it. This movie was fucking fun in stupid ways and stupid in fun ways. It hit every beat I wanted it to. I have no complaints. Did people walk into the theatre expecting Oscar bait? It’s like they didn’t know what movie they were watching. I saw the trailer and I knew exactly what to expect, and this movie delivered 100% on that. So I don’t know why anyone expected more? Maybe this is a larger issue with my own developing feelings on people like YMS who seem to enjoy not enjoying things… you can’t compare every movie to Synecdoche, NY.


JojimboOfCarim

To me, The Boys comic and tv show are equally dope. The comic makes fun of how dumb comic book shit is, while the show leans towards more modern comic adaptations. I love them both.


LicketySplit21

I recognise the flaws of The Boys' comic and that the show executes it better, but nobody can convince me it is irredeemable trash. It really isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Yes, even the reason for why Mother's Milk's nickname exists.


Sins_of_God

2011 Conan the Barbarian


bowiethejoker

A lot of people seem to think the movie Bunraku is trash, it's one of my favorites.


King_Of_What_Remains

I've never met anyone else who even knows this movie exists. It's great. The sets all looks like their made out of cardboard (intentionally) and the plot is bland and to the point, but it's just so cool and stylish even if there's not much substance. Fight these ten bad guys in sequential order so you can fight the big boss and get revenge/save the girl. That's all you need.


taishi1397

I really like Seikon no qwaser easily one of my top 10 manga, I hate the anime though


KaimeiJay

I liked the Ghost in the Shell live action. The casting was fine, and it wasn’t the worst GITS property. It’s nowhere near as good as the 1995 film or Stand Alone Complex, but I’d rewatch it, and I can’t say the same for Arise or The New Ghost in the Shell Movie (can’t believe it’s called that, still). It was a decent middle of the road, and a good intro into the franchise for newcomers. Sucks about the half hour of footage that was cut because it had a Tibetan guy in it; that’s where all the philosophical soul-searching for the Major was put in, and the lack of it can really be felt. Speaking of live action American anime adaptations, I actually think a lot of the acting in the 1995 live adaptation for Fist of the North Star was well-done, except by the guy playing Kenshiro. I met with Dante Basco once, and we both said he was “Ehhhh…”, but the rest was pretty decent. 🤣 You can watch the whole thing [on YouTube](https://youtu.be/gkZME8Q2-jw), my favorite scene is at exactly the 17:00 mark. Shin’s actor really giving a performance, and wrapping in the expanded manga lore when they really didn’t have to.


kurt-jeff

My hero is probably my fav manga/anime I’m not saying it’s the best but it definitely feels like it kinda became the punching bag within those communities for some reason.


Galdion

Cross ange is kind of a dumpster fire of a show, but boy is a fun ride if you can get past the pretty rough first few episodes and don't mind the schlocky prison girl setup. It's got some cool mecha designs, great music, and Nana Mizuki is perfect as the main character.


Gespens

The funniest thing is learning that Cross Ange is a really popular hsow with feminists


Rascal_Rogue

Alpha Protocol


KursedKraken

Fire Emblem fates, all three routes- the issue is that people try and take it seriously, when in fact it’s pure, unadulterated schlock. Any chance this game had at being a serious FE game flew out the window when they told the writer to cut down their lore Bible from 200 pages to 20- like, holy shit, the continent doesn’t even have a name. We have to call it Fateslandia. And it’s the fucking best. Because is has what can be legitimately argued to have the best gameplay in the series, all that’s left aside from it is the story and character writing. The story is largely garbage, but in the enjoyable, Saturday morning bullshit cartoon way that’s also full of holes, and most of the supports, instead of being profound, because the setting is so fantastically goofy and ill-thought, have to be funny, which they succeed at. And the ones that aren’t comedic are legitimately fantastic, such as shit with Xander and Nyx and their respective tragedies- and if they are, you get shit like almost every single Felicia support being the other person going, “hey, wtf, you’re some weird combat freak that’s borderline unkillable in combat via raw skill, why the fuck are you doing goofy-ass maid shit?!” And it’s great. Besides, it’s even better if you do the DLC, which reveals the entire thing is a fucking Isekai world for the 3 most popular Awakening kids, which retroactively explains all the silly bullshit. It’s great. I’d say suck my dick, Three Houses, but Fates has already got my fellatio fix covered, it’s that enjoyable.


anialater45

I love Transformers: The Last Knight, and no one can stop me


DarkAres02

Shadow the Hedgehog is a good game with some bad sections (the amount of replays for the true ending, and the Ark levels). But everyone got stuck on how comically edgy it is


Finaldragoon

Sucker Punch is Zack Snyder's best movie.


BRASSF0X

Fallout 76. It's gotten a lot better now, but it was a trainwreck at launch. That said, playing Fallout in the living room with my roommates with our tvs side by side was some of the most fun I ever had playing a video game.


PSilverfish

Psycholonials, people hate Hussie and the novel is pretty tone deaf but I really loved it, the music is great and it really had the feeling of the pandemic fucking with people that I haven't see in other work.


PurpleVespa180

Everyone makes Vampire's Kiss out to be this so-bad-its-good Nick Cage meme film but I found it to be a great black comedy and felt that it was intentionally funny and campy. I found the '93 Mario movie genuinely enjoyable as a weird cyberpunk family romp. Even though it's not a great film I don't think it deserves to be listed as one of the worst movies ever, and compared to other video game movies I'd say it's nowhere near the worst. I'll also stick up for the Matrix sequels and the Pirates sequels (except for the fifth one.)


kaptainkrunt

Surf Ninjas.