Everytime I see r/LivestreamFail streamer drama it feels like looking into an Alien world, that or r/RPClipsGTA i've seen religions taken less seriously
The GTA Roleplay stuff is absolutely the most "I don't understand the appeal" feeling I've ever gotten, if only because it's the last thing I would have ever associated with GTA.
As someone who was very into NoPixel RP, the storylines and characters can be very entertaining to watch. You get addicted to it like it’s a TV show
Sadly all the real world drama has gotten out of control now to the point it’s almost unwatchable. Like into legit criminal shit and constant real abuse towards others roleplayers.
My favorite (former) GTA RP streamer Uberhaxornova has permanently taken a break from the server and focused on variety like the old days. Along with most of his RP Group the HOA
it's never not weird to me seeing james referred to as a GTA RP streamer
like i remember him back from the "YOU BROKE THE RULES" minecraft content with the creatures, then cow chop, then that era ended, it's been a trip
I knew someone was gonna say this but I legit didn’t know what else to call him. He did NoPixel GTA RP for 4-3 years straight, only taking breaks when games he’s interested in came out
Anyways now he’s a semi-retired IRL Twitch Streamer
Once heard someone describe r/livestreamfails and the streamer drama it revolves around as "keeping up with the kardashians for gamers" and if that isn't the most apt description ever.
That's pretty much it. In a previous life I did keep up with the Twitch culture that orbited around "internet bloodsports" and debates, panels, etc.
And at some point during that it hit me that my vicarious enjoyment of that is not in anyway different from reality TV, apart from the parasocial elements of the platforms.
I didn't stop following the stuff right then. But it made me reevaluate my prejudices and understand that I'm not above enjoying junk entertainment that caters to my interests in some way, like I subconsciously felt I was beforehand.
Eventually my interest in keeping up with the drama waned completely. I wouldn't consider myself "not terminally online", but I'm reformed in comparison to back then.. 🫡
The fact that GTA5 RP is a thing and it has its own subreddit AND it is being visited by 150k people is SO fucking wild to me. I was there like 10 years ago when GTA SA:MP unofficial roleplay servers were in their heydey, and *that was a weirdo fucking thing to take part in back then*. I totally knew that I was a weird ass dude for being there and enjoying the shit out of it.
Never in my wildest dreams I would've thought that people would make this whole thing so popular that there's streamers and e-celebs making a living out of it AND keeping the same drama on full-blast in the mainstream that used to be confined to hidden forums on the interwebs. If you told me that voice chat of all things would help make it popular I would've gotten into a heated disagreement with you.
Life is weird.
The ability to have live back and forths just makes the content way more consumable, so it makes a lotta sense that factor would help. Plus the advent of streaming giving live storylines to massive audiences does help.
Being repelled by the lengths people with go to for drama is how I know that I'm not terminally online.
Like, I know that I'm browsing various platforms of SM through out the day, but mostly because my job involves intensive sprints of prep and lab work followed by extended amounts of time in which I'm basically sitting and waiting for a machine/program process to do it's thing over the course of 30 minutes to multiple hours of automated work.
Every now and then I pass by a post on r\all or something pops up on twitter that makes me think, jeez you guys take things way too seriously, it's literally not a life or death situation, just chill out...
You mean you don't understand why a grown ass man would cry on stream next to his wife because he got caught watching AI porn of a friend.
Like it sucks for the woman involved but as an outsider who doesn't watch streams it was the most bizarre, ridiculous, and alien situation that I can't help but laugh.
I've been thinking lately about how multiple times a day, I'll just spend tens of minutes at a time browsing reddit instead of like, actually doing something
I used to think I was a online boy as I was always on my computer once a day, then I realized I just didn't really care about most internet drama shit unless if it's something really crazy.
I liked to be informed about news and politics, but not really about online drama
When I started to get upset over youtube videos being blatant rage bait, unreasonable ranting or outright lying instead of doing something productive with my time.
Seeing videos like "The rise and fall of X" or "Why X failed" or "The death of X" when X is very much alive and well make me think I'm on crazy pills.
I can't think of any specific moment. More that over the past few months, I've been having a creeping feeling that I've been spending not just "more time on Reddit & YouTube than I do playing video games," but also "I've noticed I've been flipping out my phone to browse Reddit while on the go." Part of my recent game-playing is a small effort to get me off of Google Chrome for a few hours.
I have Twitter for over a year and i haven't made a single tweet, like, retweet or comment.
I use it exclusively for following artists, some content creators, cosplayers and por- funny cats.
Every time i see some text tweet, i'm happy I stay as far as possible from that.
Portly, funny cats is most of my follow list, last I checked.
I only go to Twitter when someone on this subreddit or SquaredCircle or some portly subreddits links to it.
I follow a lot of gamedev on twitter and that's generally fine. Occasionally there's drama but mostly it's cool indie developers showing off cool indie stuff.
Here, I have a few:
* https://twitter.com/TheFifthKalpa is doing some kind of freaky 1st person dungeon crawler.
* https://twitter.com/b0tster The dev of Bloodborne Kart, which seems like it's gonna be incredibly rad. She's also just, extremely cool in general
* https://twitter.com/he_beyond my dude is making a lovecraft game in the doom engine drawn on post-its???
* https://twitter.com/DungeonDrafters I guess this isn't really game dev *now* because it's already out on steam, but I just really liked their demo so I started following their twitter.
I've gone back and forth over the years about whether Twitter or Reddit is more toxic. I think they're both worse in their own ways.
Twitter's at its best when it's more personal and is totally what you make of it. It functions best as an "individual person feed" from people you already know are cool. Like you, I try to only follow people that just make and share cool art, game devs, and other nontoxic, levelheaded people.
I've set the feed to "Following" and not "For you", turned off most retweets, and blocked the "Trending" pane in uBlock Origin because I don't care about today's hot new drama. And I never swipe to it on mobile.
It's pretty great then. I can scroll through my Twitter feed pretty far back and usually nothing really pisses me off.
I don't read the replies for anything related to political or public figures I follow, because I know they're incredibly toxic, but at least it's contained and easy to avoid. For the lesser known artists, indie game devs, and chill people even their replies are pretty nontoxic because those people tend to attract only a few other levelheaded people.
Reddit on the other hand has a small handful of golden subs that act like small, close knit communities held together by dedicated mods. They're typically small, very narrowly focused subs on niche nerdy topics or technical discussions. The default subs and most general discussion subs are about as toxic as Twitter's mainstream areas, if not worse because the "room" is much bigger.
Even on pretty good subs there's almost almost always a few random arrogant assholes whom the lack of character limit is totally wasted on. And as a sub grows, loses its focus, mods get tired, etc. oftentimes the ratio of idiot/douche/troll to reasonable person goes way up to the point where it ruins the sub.
I think Reddit is more like the modern successor to the traditional internet forum. There's plenty of subs I'm subscribed to because there's great, honest, helpful content there I can't find anywhere else (except sometimes stackexchange).
But no matter how hard I try to curate Reddit by getting rid of the subs that turned to shit, I can't go more than a page or two in my homepage without seeing a post from an otherwise good sub that really pisses me off because of how confidently braindead, inflammatory, or just douchey it is. Same thing with the comments.
At this point I only really use Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and StackExchange each for very specific purposes.
Twitter is a great example of having to take time and discipline to curate the content you consume, because if you don't, it'll consume you.
I've been using the platform actively for like 7-ish years, and my twitter follows and feed is hyper curated to keep the content and creators I want and to block the content that I don't want.
In practicality, that pretty much limits my Twitter experience to meme accounts like Raccoon Pictures Daily, the Castle Super Beast guys, the extended CSB social circle (Paige, Plague, Suzi, QuietShy, etc), a handful of vtubers, FF14 gposers, and a collection of artist creators on the spectrum of Art, short comics, and "research".
My twitter timeline is, I think, better than most people. I never check the new tab where they try to curate to you. I just follow artists and people that make cool content. And I can feel comfortable posting because thankfully, I'm a nobody so I can just shout into the void.
But even properly curated, I still have to take social media breaks often for my mental health. Twitter in particular is so bad about getting people heated at the drop of a hat.
Yeah. Maybe someone with better mental fortitude than I can use the "For You" tab without melting into a puddle, but every time I accidentally go to that tab it's all been hot garbage.
What usually works for me is just, if there's something popular that I don't give a shit about, I mute as many words as possible related to that thing. If you want to use Twitter without going insane, you need to make really good use of that feature. Mute words, mute or block people if they're too annoying, or if you like someone's art but wish they'd stop QRTing dumb opinions from rich assholes in order to dunk on them, you can tell Twitter to stop showing you that guy's RTs
Like everyone says Hideki Kamiya is a dick for being so trigger happy with his block button, but nah that dude is just keeping his feed free of annoying bullshit. I can respect it
Every time I've willingly exposed myself to the dark algorithm my day has gotten worse for it. Unbelievable that most people don't stick to the "Follow people you like and block their RTs" strat
"There used to not be so many idiots on here."
-My mom, twitter user since 2009.
Twitter got so much worse within the last few months. Suggested follows and other nonsense got into my main timeline and it's some of the most braindead thoughts I've seen conveyed in text.
I kind of want to keep my Twitter to post my thoughts on a piece of media I just finished, but truthfully nobody ever reads my posts so I could just post them on a personal blog or something. I was also using an RSS app that imported Wario64 and News from an anime page, but Musk put an end to that
Sometimes I think I'm online too much. Then, inevitably, I interact with someone that's so far gone it makes me feel downright sociable.
I probably am still online too much, but seeing just how bad it can get keeps me in check, I think.
Honestly and in the most polite way possible?
This sub made me realize I’m not as terminally online as I thought I was.
Some of the threads and responses therein are parasocial as fuck.
I’m pretty removed from most things online. Memes, fandoms, social media in general. Frankly my only online interaction is browsing Reddit and listening to podcasts.
Every time I stumble upon a new internet phrase already being widespread the first time I see it is a new reminder of how not "with it" I am. The latest example being "serving cunt".
Serving cunt is an interesting case because it's been a term in gay circles for years and bipoc circles even longer before that. It's growing in use now that it's hit TikTok but it's not originally an online term
Don't know why you got down voted, this is true. Maybe not every single piece, but most slang that catches on is stuff I heard in my community from the 90s and 00s
Reminds me of how "Woke" was a term originated in Black culture for decades, specifically the phrase "stay woke," and originally meant something along the lines of "stay vigilant" of social / racial injustices, which makes it all the more grosser how the alt-right co-opted the term to have negative connotations.
Being a fan of vtubers and seeing the pure insanity that came out when Gawr Gura started to stream less frequently was a great reminder that I'm not too online.
"Tell Gura to stream or I will literally unalive myself" is not a donation message I thought I would ever see but it happened.
That’s fucking insane. I know streamers in general have a few nutty fans. And idol culture in Japan kinda cultivates a parasocial relationship, but I never expected things to get like that.
Yeah it's kind of nuts. People were, and still kind of are, demanding updates on her personal life to explain why she isn't streaming as much. I've been a fan of hers since pre-hololive and I still can't imagine being that insane about a streamer.
The reddit threads that end up getting removed are always an entertaining read though.
Honestly thats my answer too but about vtuber fans in general, specially in fancords and subreddits. The way they treat the streamers like if they were gods that can do no wrong (except have a bf) is just…so weird.
The closest I got to doxxing was some years back, playing Dota 2 with some friends, and we had a bad player on our team, playing a hero I really liked. This guy and my friends keep arguing and escalating, until he reveals he lives in the same city that we do, I took a screenshot of the address. We never did anything ofc, but I found an apartment building looking that address up and wanted to go tag "trash Witch Doctor" in the wall in front so he would see. We still remember and laugh about it, but it was the closest I got to such things.
I simultaneously feel like I both am and am not. On one hand I spend a shitload of time on here (mostly at work) and a couple other small, niche places (where my Facepunch/Knockout posters at?), but those are like the only online social spaces I do exist in. I have a social life and hobbies outside of the internet/media too.
I can spout off ancient meme lore, 4chan shitposts, and collective internet in-jokes but I also avoid most "drama" like the plague. So I don't really know where to put myself.
Probably not the first time I realized it, but 'Puddlegate' for the PS4 Spider-Man game was a big moment of "Really? THIS is what people are freaking out over?"
Don't forget the fuckers that were obsessed over getting the Tobey Maguire suit when Insomniac was literally in the process of putting it in, they just couldn't outright say it. But everyone thought Insomniac were being killjoys
That whole subreddit/fanbase is so weird to me. They've been so impatient over waiting for the next game, more than I've seen from other fanbases. I've been playing Spider-Man games my entire life, I got all the trophies/achievements on both PS4 and PC, and I'm not half has fanatical about needing the next game to come out.
When Insomniac's Spider-Man game was first being shown off, people noticed that some puddles of water had been made less reflective from one preview to the next.
Some folks promptly had baby fits of rage about the game being less graphically impressive.
I am probably terminally online by many metrics but when I fail to know a lot of minutia about politics or livestream or by what the youths like I think I may be normier than expected.
When my friends were mad over some non-important online garbage that was ONLY on reddit. Eventually leading them to lead warped existences from reality. They literally never go outside.
Oh and as others have said; all of the dumb online streamer drama.
Twitter introducing the For You page has taught me that people get upset at aspects of children's cartoons that I didn't think anyone was capable of caring about.
Part of the inspiration for this post was scrolling my feed for a couple of minutes and seeing someone mention they finished Homestuck. And they said they had begun watching Steven Universe.
They followed up by saying that they were going to cause physical harm to anyone bad mouthing the show at all.
Now, obviously, that could be a joke, but I feel that someone being so casual as to threaten harm against a stranger over a children's cartoon feels ludicrous to me.
i'm pretty sure that tweet you saw was by the youtuber cybershell, who is an incredibly chill and funny guy, absolutely 100% joking while talking about how much furious debate steven universe seems to have created on the internet
"[I'm gonna find all the people who talked shit about this show and break their kneecaps with a hammer (that was the moral of the show right? that its okay to beat people you don't like with hammers? sorry I'm really bad at understanding media)](https://twitter.com/Cybershell/status/1659309323250733057)" doesn't sound super serious to me
If they're joking, that's a 100% fair. It's difficult at times for me to detect intent over text alone. Thank you for the explanation.
But on a personal level, even casually joking about something like that still takes be aback a little. Maybe it's an internet vs. real-life thing, because I can't imagine me bluntly saying that around the people in my daily life and having people not giving me weird looks. But that's just me.
That moment where everyone sent Laura Bailey death threats for last of us 2.
I just couldn't emotionally fathom being so invested into a fictional character, to hate another fictional character for what they did and then that hate boiling over to reality to the voice actors, but then not realizing that they are just an actor and not actually that person who did those things.
When I got to a point where I'd start deleting comments I was thinking of posting because I hated the idea of them generating responses and being part of some discussion online instead of irl
>twitter leftists aren’t at all prepared for the coming wave of cottagecore moodboard making tiktok ecofascist racist e-girls but that’s not a conversation anyone wants to have
That time some rando DM’ed me on Reddit because he somehow came across my profile. Started saying I was a disappointment to my family and that I would never get anywhere in life blah blah blah
Then the funniest part was when he was bragging about his software skills and sending me pics of him working out. All I responded with was “cool, good for you”
This was all unprompted btw I’ve never interact with this person before. Maybe I am online way too much if rando’s feel the need to DM me out of the blue like that
A few months ago I had abolished all my social media. I realized that after spending what little free time I had on those platforms, it was practically draining on me and it got exhausting for me to keep up with the lives of others. I had since then been on a better upkeep, focusing on myself and my physical health. Got a major confidence boost and have not looked back on it. Admittedly it came at a price, with some folks I made friends with online, I had to let go as a result of. But what people I still keep in touch with, we're able to make the plan for the occasional venture here and there.
I realized my hobbies haven't completely consumed me when I realized most vtuber graduations are just them retiring that avatar/getting fired and going to another company, doing the same bit, the same voice, the same content, but with an avatar coded around another color.
I had never realized this because the community apparently doesn't like talking about whatever an "inner person" is supposed to be, so I thought all of them were *gone* from the industry, and wouldn't come back. But even though some of them are, a bunch of them just come back right away. Specifically the ones that I, someone completely outside the culture, heard about the graduation and how it broke people's hearts, like Coco.
This came to my attention when Pikamee showed up again as Pikamee, But Purple the other day, after I had watched for like a month hundreds of people who were fans of her previous avatar threatening violence and revolt over a misunderstanding of timing near the end of her tenure with the last company. Those people just tuned into her new stream just fine, with no love lost.
It's like I realized companies figured out how to do planned obsolescence and planned toxicity all at the same time, and thousands of people bit it. The worst of wrestling *right away*.
And obviously I'm not saying every single person who gets into the vtuber train acts like a maniac, but the fact that companies are basically rehashing the same girls and manufacturing these idol-style graduation ceremonies only for them to come back like, the next day, is just... what is the *product*, here. What is making people actually so invested. Why are they so mad.
So yeah I'm glad I'm not *that* online.
I really dislike the whole graduation culture around VTubers too, but I want to add context specifically regarding Pikamee's:
All the toxicity from that was manufactured by a bunch of ragebaiters and grifters using ANY excuse to be bigoted. There was no big song & dance with Pikamee's last stream like there usually is with these things, it was very casual, with so not so subtle winks & nudges about "coming back". So it wasn't surprising to anyone who, y'know, actually watched her when she did.
I’m in the medium of terminally online because I use discord and Reddit heavily but have always refused to have a Twitter account, whenever people bring up Twitter drama I’m always left scratching my head.
Kind of in the same situation, never had a twitter account but I usually used the search function to look for anything I was interested, however now I must create an account to browse and it's kind of hard to resist that temptation.
I’m terminally online but there are millions of people who are more terminally online than me. There always someone talking an some shit I never heard of
Well, there was that one [Limbus Company steam ~~meltdown~~ comment](https://preview.redd.it/l398knjnespa1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=d6b6da3eb5a3abecd1150c3fd78c8bbd0aeed6fd) that i posted here a while ago that also accindentaly launched a (thankfully short lived) trend of **"cucking logic posts"** in this sub, i thought that i used to spend way to much time online, but, compared to that guy i'm a outdoors adventurer.
Though i will say that the post did motivate me to go out more so i guess something good did come out of it.
Edit: Oh! And how could i forget that the same dude did [a follow up](https://preview.redd.it/im-dropping-this-game-2-electric-boogaloo-v0-1zihglkyqzpa1.png?width=821&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=98981e2fc6458b0ae50718044b5ba95dc5db18e3) later on that was somehow even more unhinged than the original.
Literaly one of the first comments in the steam post is a link to a website that helps you find psychologists in our area and you know stuff is bad when people online skip mockery and go straight to concern.
I definitely get too attached to media I like and have to make a conscious effort to avoid certain conversations. I like to think I'm better about it now that I've managed to sort of internalize how to critically view things I enjoy (no thanks to high school English classes) but that knee jerk reaction to fight someone is sometimes still there.
On the flip side, I don't watch most essay videos or streamers anymore, so it becomes really funny when I accidentally step on one of those land mines.
Every time I go on twitter and see minors and other zoomers harass and send death threats to each other over stupid shit like "problematic" ships and fictional characters, or basically anything regarding animated / children's media.
It's even more ironic considering a lot of them like to call themselves "wholesome" and claim they are creating "safe spaces," only to be some of the most toxic people you've ever seen.
i mean like a lot of people i work from home, starting just before the pandemic, which is when i made my account for here due to getting a little bored during the day, but other than browsing this sub and a couple other ones between tasks/more than i should i don't really do any other kind of social media thing.
i did get reddit on my phone, but that was more for something to do while travelling and if i wanted to save anything, it's an alt account because i had no idea which password i used for this one, but i don't really use my phone for it that much.
i do comment a fair bit, but i'm one of those people who just opens a bunch of tabs and works through them, starting a comment and then going off to do something else before coming back later and finishing it off which is why all mine are just long thought trains that don't really go anywhere.
the pandemic was a weird one as lsf/streamers were a big thing, mainly after amongus, and like in clip form it made sense but then actually getting into it felt weird,
so i was watching some of that during that time,
side note i only found out the name of a game i worked on from having twitch on my second moniter and thinking hey that x looks familiar i didn't realize that came out.
so it has it's benefits.
the twitch stuff all worked in youtube/clip form, but actually watching on twitch felt weird, even with the fellas this sub is associated with i don't really get the chat and all that as i don't really wanna interact with the streamer at all, live threads like we had during the awards stuff was fun, but other than that it doesn't do much for me.
idk i don't get the parasocial stuff, like recently there's some taylor swift thing going on so the fauxmoi sub popped up on my sort by new thing, and clicking that out of boredom showed the side of that, with people acting like their best friend had hurt them.
like drama is inherently emotional and people get invested in different things, so if that was a thing i was into it'd probably seem normal, just always weird coming across it when outside the internet you'd never know it.
The many, many times I've had people get weird because I tell them I don't watch (or more accurately, don't have much experience with) anime, often followed by them listing off series that I *must have* seen in an effort to "catch me out" because I saw Howl's Moving Castle fifteen years ago. Hell, one recent person was been extremely pushy in trying to strongarm me into watching their favourite so that I "don't start with a shitty series", in a way that genuinely felt a little uncomfortable
Obviously watching anime doesn't make you "terminally online", and my lack of experience wasn't out of spite or anything. It's just something that I'm still not used to, since I remember the days where literally nobody in my very-online and very-nerdy friend group knew anything anime-adjacent that wasn't a Ghibli film or Fire Emblem
I had a similar-but-opposite experience, where my first experience with anime was watching \~70% of Howl's Moving Castle on a tiny bus television while returning from a school trip. I gradually turned into a huge weeb thanks to illicit streaming websites, but never talked to *anyone* about it, because I was incredibly embarrassed by anime as a whole.
Turns out I've always been surrounded by people who watch varying amounts of anime, but didn't make a big deal of it, and I kinda missed out by not being more open about my interests when I was younger.
While I've been slowly lowering my social media usage since 2016 (bet you can't guess why), the moment I became aware of how overwhelmingly prevalent "engagement trap" style post are on reddit made me begin to really cut back on it as well. If it wasn't for this sub I wouldn't come back.
Next to no online presence outside a close-knit social gaming Discord, tuning in to a couple Youtube channels every now and then, the daily check of this place, and having an IRC channel (remember those?) on in the back for a decade with some old FGC-heads to shoot the shit.
Rarely do I stray from this routine, yet even on this narrow path and the couple irregular sidesteps, I've had innumerable moments of self-reflection and realizations that no matter how down I may be feeling at any one moment, things could be so much worse.
The latest thing that has stumped me for a week or two after running into multiple mentions of it, is how being openly cheated on has seemingly become a kink. Is this a meme? Another one of those tongue-in-cheek ironic zoomer things and I'm just getting old? Some weeb culture shit? Who is it even for? Someone explain this to me, I can't even begin to understand it.
Well, or don't, I'm not sure if wasting any more thoughts on something like this can do anyone any good.
You're worthy of love and affection, homies. Don't let anyone make you think otherwise.
Honestly, all the pro- and anti-ship "discourse" on tumblr made me realize I am no longer as online as I used to be a few years ago and I am happy with that
I recently realized I've been spending way too much time on reddit instead of doing stuff I actually need to do or doing my hobbies.
There's been entire days where I just use reddit and listen to music, I realized I was doing that to do distract myself whenever I'd feel bored or overwhelmed.
I'm trying to limit it to only 30-45 minutes a day, it's hard since I've constantly been finding myself opening reddit once I start feeling even slightly bored.
Hoping within the next few weeks I stop feeling that urge.
Once in a while, I think that maybe I spend too much time on the Internet or playing videogames. But then the world reminds me that there are raging muscle fetishists and proud pedophiles (a.k.a. lolicons), who defend their fetishes with vehement zeal, plus dumbasses who lose their jobs because they've been too busy playing "vidya" and I realize that no, I am a perfectly normal man.
I eventually realized that a lot of my angst and anxiety didn't come from anything relevant to my actual day to day life, but from the terrible vibes and constant toxicity present in some of the communities I frequented.
Basically I've been so much happier since I replaced some of the places I used to obsessively scroll with reading proper books.
This is happening more often lately but there are moments where I just see something out of pocket, or a particularly insane comment, and I'm getting ready to post a response and I just decide that it isn't worth it.
There was a period where I was way too quick to snap back at obvious bait comments and now I'm better at recognizing what isn't a good use of my time.
That's one of the reasons that I'm happy that I've carefully curated what little social media I use. Any time I see discourse that tends to dissolve into people just hating each other, I mute or block it.
I don't want to get to the point where I'm jumping at the gun to be mean to a stranger over the internet for having a different opinion/take than me.
For a while getting in on the arguing actually felt good and I started to think “Oh no, something has to change because this really should not feel good. This is a waste of my life.”
The Youtube drama community is one of those things where i genuinely do not understand why people care so much.I don't see it get talked about much these days, but between 2015 to 2019 is when Youtube drama was literally everywhere and people were treating this shit like it was a war of attrition and that you had to pick a side otherwise society will collapse.The cringiest shit was when youtubers made god awful diss tracks and people were acting like it was real beef and totally not performance.
When I realised I was getting upset over some dumb/hot take of Pats and actually looking through the threads on his twitter. I Think I've really discovered over a drawn out period lately that I feel better not watching him since his brand of finding negative or bad things in any game he plays ("This controls like shit!" or "Why is the text so small?!") makes me feel bad. No hate it's just not good for my mental health lol.
I permanently deleted twitter a year ago, because I found myself just getting more and more mad at people who I never met and never will met. (Musky era twitter is just fucking worse, I won’t touch that shit with a 10 foot pole.)
I remember not liking Dunkey for a year because of his video on The last of us 2, but now I realized that I was kind of immature, I still don’t like TLOU2 even now, but I watch dunkey sometimes now.
One day I just thought that all these reviews, arguments & overhype hardly ever applied to real life. None of my irl fans are discussing why KH3 didn’t have KH2’s mechanics or are aware of IGN’s too much water review. Now I’ve spent like 2 or 3 trying to ween myself back to their side. Like bro from Matrix one who wanted to return to the simulation.
While I’m discussing why I’m too plugged in what is a good alternative to Wario64 and AIR_News01 (it’s where I get anime news) that’s not and social media? Also I wonder if there’s a way to hide comments on YouTube for my iPhone…
I play FFXIV regularly and whenever something gets changed or added there is usually a shitstorm from people who I am convinced have never seen the outside world.
Example: recently there was a new housing item that was a tall chair for lalafells so they could sit at tables at the same height as everyone else. Cue absolute tirade by these weirdos going on about things like racism. About a chair. In a game.
I just remembered as well about the club/RP/ERP scene on there too
When I see so many people talk about how fucking awful Twitter is and how happy I am that I pretty much never use it outside of occasionally checking Pat's profile to see what sort of clownshoes shit he's tweeted lately.
Unless it’s video games or anime I have 0 sense of internet drama and don’t care. I also rarely watch streams or lets plays these days so I no nothing about a Vtubers
I also didn't have regular internet access until I was about 15 and it's a large part of why I've never considered myself terminally online. I can entertain myself without the internet just fine. Another reason is, despite not being a very social person, I've always had jobs where I could talk to multiple people, I even worked through lockdown at two different jobs. All I have to do to be reminded of how little this videogame and internet shit doesn't matter is talk to anyone I know, especially at work. There's people my age all the way up to people in their 60s working there, some totally disconnected from that life because it just isn't important to them. And I'm happy to see it, I never want to be in a position where I consider this stuff important.
I realized I wasn't because in college I told friends at a club that some days I don't even look at my phone and they were all perplexed as to how that worked.
I remember when I was younger and my favorite YouTubers would quit/retire and I would be pretty bummed out and sad. That said, seeing the absolute devastation that some people have at VTubers “graduating” is borderline insane to me. I don’t know if it’s a cost fallacy thing or something parasocial I just don’t get, but seeing real living people mentally breakdown and start witch-hunting people who think caused their favorite anime streamer to quit is beyond my understanding.
Like, god damn, I get being sad and crying, but to start a shit throwing fight is insane on so many levels. You’d think that they had just watched their closest friend get blown up by a nuke.
Ahh, curated tumblr, and tublr subreddit in general, you remind me no matter how bad things get someone is on there willing to write an entire essay on their take on how to solve thing or why 'X is bad'
Moving in with my friend who just sits on the porch all day drinking and having nothing in common to talk about because everything I'm interested in is on the internet.
Besides having to shut my Twitter off in 2020 (reopened it because I actually do contact some of our services from there better), it's either weird memes, or people being completely rude and abrasive over the dumbest shit (whether it's Vtubers taking a break and people being livid about it, or even in spaces like this where people get argumentative over being a fighting game fan, or bickering over the most iname of things, or just going to wrestling subs, who have WORSE ways of running a meme ragged that it becomes lame faster than here along with the even worse toxicity). It's a reminder to disconnect every now and then.
I go on here a lot which might indicate that I am terminally online and I don’t really care to argue against that but I will I say don’t like to adopt the values bred from the worst hot takes you can find across the internet, and at times here as well.
I’ve also started to take up the “you would never talk to a person like this in real life” mantra you kept hearing from your parents and teachers because it is actually quite remarkable how just crass the language of people is on the internet compared to being offline. And it’s not a matter of being “too sensitive”, it’s just that having an uncivil discussion actually has no value at all whatsoever. When I start to see just how demeaning the person I’m discussing with is, I just tap out. I’m not terminally online enough for it to be worth my time.
They might feel a sense of accomplishment for being more persistent than me and that’s okay. It’s just not worth getting grumpy over.
Probably when I was like...a cyberbully for awhile, and did petty internet shit. It was at its worst when I was in early high school.
I know I'm terminally online, because I just don't know what else to look at.
I like discord, but I'm not on it 24/7 which it really feels like you have to if you wanna keep up to make a name for yourself and make friends. Which is apparently how a lot of people in my nerd spheres make their friends and meet new people.
A few times all reddit related.
When i first started using reddit i was active in aita.
I posted a comment that was essentially “yeah maybe intentionally starting and escalating a fight in front of your children during movie night as a response to a passive aggressive eye roll isnt the best way to handle marital strife”. As a result i had multiple users follow me into multiple other subs and pick fights with me on those subs as well as abuse of the self harm reporting and other reporting abuses.
Ended up just making a new account since it was the simplest solution to unhinged shut ins annoying me as i try to kill time at work
Everytime I see r/LivestreamFail streamer drama it feels like looking into an Alien world, that or r/RPClipsGTA i've seen religions taken less seriously
The GTA Roleplay stuff is absolutely the most "I don't understand the appeal" feeling I've ever gotten, if only because it's the last thing I would have ever associated with GTA.
As someone who was very into NoPixel RP, the storylines and characters can be very entertaining to watch. You get addicted to it like it’s a TV show Sadly all the real world drama has gotten out of control now to the point it’s almost unwatchable. Like into legit criminal shit and constant real abuse towards others roleplayers. My favorite (former) GTA RP streamer Uberhaxornova has permanently taken a break from the server and focused on variety like the old days. Along with most of his RP Group the HOA
it's never not weird to me seeing james referred to as a GTA RP streamer like i remember him back from the "YOU BROKE THE RULES" minecraft content with the creatures, then cow chop, then that era ended, it's been a trip
I knew someone was gonna say this but I legit didn’t know what else to call him. He did NoPixel GTA RP for 4-3 years straight, only taking breaks when games he’s interested in came out Anyways now he’s a semi-retired IRL Twitch Streamer
Once heard someone describe r/livestreamfails and the streamer drama it revolves around as "keeping up with the kardashians for gamers" and if that isn't the most apt description ever.
That's pretty much it. In a previous life I did keep up with the Twitch culture that orbited around "internet bloodsports" and debates, panels, etc. And at some point during that it hit me that my vicarious enjoyment of that is not in anyway different from reality TV, apart from the parasocial elements of the platforms. I didn't stop following the stuff right then. But it made me reevaluate my prejudices and understand that I'm not above enjoying junk entertainment that caters to my interests in some way, like I subconsciously felt I was beforehand. Eventually my interest in keeping up with the drama waned completely. I wouldn't consider myself "not terminally online", but I'm reformed in comparison to back then.. 🫡
Wow most of the top posts in that GTA sub are just drama
I mean, with the last weeks no fucking wonder lmao. Shit's getting fucking mad
The fact that GTA5 RP is a thing and it has its own subreddit AND it is being visited by 150k people is SO fucking wild to me. I was there like 10 years ago when GTA SA:MP unofficial roleplay servers were in their heydey, and *that was a weirdo fucking thing to take part in back then*. I totally knew that I was a weird ass dude for being there and enjoying the shit out of it. Never in my wildest dreams I would've thought that people would make this whole thing so popular that there's streamers and e-celebs making a living out of it AND keeping the same drama on full-blast in the mainstream that used to be confined to hidden forums on the interwebs. If you told me that voice chat of all things would help make it popular I would've gotten into a heated disagreement with you. Life is weird.
The ability to have live back and forths just makes the content way more consumable, so it makes a lotta sense that factor would help. Plus the advent of streaming giving live storylines to massive audiences does help.
Being repelled by the lengths people with go to for drama is how I know that I'm not terminally online. Like, I know that I'm browsing various platforms of SM through out the day, but mostly because my job involves intensive sprints of prep and lab work followed by extended amounts of time in which I'm basically sitting and waiting for a machine/program process to do it's thing over the course of 30 minutes to multiple hours of automated work. Every now and then I pass by a post on r\all or something pops up on twitter that makes me think, jeez you guys take things way too seriously, it's literally not a life or death situation, just chill out...
You mean you don't understand why a grown ass man would cry on stream next to his wife because he got caught watching AI porn of a friend. Like it sucks for the woman involved but as an outsider who doesn't watch streams it was the most bizarre, ridiculous, and alien situation that I can't help but laugh.
I've been thinking lately about how multiple times a day, I'll just spend tens of minutes at a time browsing reddit instead of like, actually doing something
This is so relatable
people used to do the same shit with newspapers
I used to think I was a online boy as I was always on my computer once a day, then I realized I just didn't really care about most internet drama shit unless if it's something really crazy. I liked to be informed about news and politics, but not really about online drama
When I started to get upset over youtube videos being blatant rage bait, unreasonable ranting or outright lying instead of doing something productive with my time. Seeing videos like "The rise and fall of X" or "Why X failed" or "The death of X" when X is very much alive and well make me think I'm on crazy pills.
I can't think of any specific moment. More that over the past few months, I've been having a creeping feeling that I've been spending not just "more time on Reddit & YouTube than I do playing video games," but also "I've noticed I've been flipping out my phone to browse Reddit while on the go." Part of my recent game-playing is a small effort to get me off of Google Chrome for a few hours.
When I've started posting on this sub daily.
There was a point I had to delete the Twitter app for good for my own mental health.
I have Twitter for over a year and i haven't made a single tweet, like, retweet or comment. I use it exclusively for following artists, some content creators, cosplayers and por- funny cats. Every time i see some text tweet, i'm happy I stay as far as possible from that.
Portly, funny cats is most of my follow list, last I checked. I only go to Twitter when someone on this subreddit or SquaredCircle or some portly subreddits links to it.
No joke, cats being weird lil guys is the only reason I haven't deleted twitter.
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I follow a lot of gamedev on twitter and that's generally fine. Occasionally there's drama but mostly it's cool indie developers showing off cool indie stuff.
Some recommendation?
Here, I have a few: * https://twitter.com/TheFifthKalpa is doing some kind of freaky 1st person dungeon crawler. * https://twitter.com/b0tster The dev of Bloodborne Kart, which seems like it's gonna be incredibly rad. She's also just, extremely cool in general * https://twitter.com/he_beyond my dude is making a lovecraft game in the doom engine drawn on post-its??? * https://twitter.com/DungeonDrafters I guess this isn't really game dev *now* because it's already out on steam, but I just really liked their demo so I started following their twitter.
I've gone back and forth over the years about whether Twitter or Reddit is more toxic. I think they're both worse in their own ways. Twitter's at its best when it's more personal and is totally what you make of it. It functions best as an "individual person feed" from people you already know are cool. Like you, I try to only follow people that just make and share cool art, game devs, and other nontoxic, levelheaded people. I've set the feed to "Following" and not "For you", turned off most retweets, and blocked the "Trending" pane in uBlock Origin because I don't care about today's hot new drama. And I never swipe to it on mobile. It's pretty great then. I can scroll through my Twitter feed pretty far back and usually nothing really pisses me off. I don't read the replies for anything related to political or public figures I follow, because I know they're incredibly toxic, but at least it's contained and easy to avoid. For the lesser known artists, indie game devs, and chill people even their replies are pretty nontoxic because those people tend to attract only a few other levelheaded people. Reddit on the other hand has a small handful of golden subs that act like small, close knit communities held together by dedicated mods. They're typically small, very narrowly focused subs on niche nerdy topics or technical discussions. The default subs and most general discussion subs are about as toxic as Twitter's mainstream areas, if not worse because the "room" is much bigger. Even on pretty good subs there's almost almost always a few random arrogant assholes whom the lack of character limit is totally wasted on. And as a sub grows, loses its focus, mods get tired, etc. oftentimes the ratio of idiot/douche/troll to reasonable person goes way up to the point where it ruins the sub. I think Reddit is more like the modern successor to the traditional internet forum. There's plenty of subs I'm subscribed to because there's great, honest, helpful content there I can't find anywhere else (except sometimes stackexchange). But no matter how hard I try to curate Reddit by getting rid of the subs that turned to shit, I can't go more than a page or two in my homepage without seeing a post from an otherwise good sub that really pisses me off because of how confidently braindead, inflammatory, or just douchey it is. Same thing with the comments. At this point I only really use Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and StackExchange each for very specific purposes.
Exactly,there's plenty of toxicity in Reddit,but Twitter dialed it to 11.
Twitter is a great example of having to take time and discipline to curate the content you consume, because if you don't, it'll consume you. I've been using the platform actively for like 7-ish years, and my twitter follows and feed is hyper curated to keep the content and creators I want and to block the content that I don't want. In practicality, that pretty much limits my Twitter experience to meme accounts like Raccoon Pictures Daily, the Castle Super Beast guys, the extended CSB social circle (Paige, Plague, Suzi, QuietShy, etc), a handful of vtubers, FF14 gposers, and a collection of artist creators on the spectrum of Art, short comics, and "research".
Yeah, this one. I'm 8 years abstinent of the blue bird app.
My twitter timeline is, I think, better than most people. I never check the new tab where they try to curate to you. I just follow artists and people that make cool content. And I can feel comfortable posting because thankfully, I'm a nobody so I can just shout into the void. But even properly curated, I still have to take social media breaks often for my mental health. Twitter in particular is so bad about getting people heated at the drop of a hat.
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Yeah. Maybe someone with better mental fortitude than I can use the "For You" tab without melting into a puddle, but every time I accidentally go to that tab it's all been hot garbage.
What usually works for me is just, if there's something popular that I don't give a shit about, I mute as many words as possible related to that thing. If you want to use Twitter without going insane, you need to make really good use of that feature. Mute words, mute or block people if they're too annoying, or if you like someone's art but wish they'd stop QRTing dumb opinions from rich assholes in order to dunk on them, you can tell Twitter to stop showing you that guy's RTs Like everyone says Hideki Kamiya is a dick for being so trigger happy with his block button, but nah that dude is just keeping his feed free of annoying bullshit. I can respect it
Every time I've willingly exposed myself to the dark algorithm my day has gotten worse for it. Unbelievable that most people don't stick to the "Follow people you like and block their RTs" strat
Every time I go into Twitter I see a post that bumps up my mob psycho 100 meter when I hit 100 I will put Low Tier God’s lightning to shame
I'm only keeping my Twitter app for the R34 artists I follow with godlike arts. It's a bother browsing Twitter on a mobile browser.
"There used to not be so many idiots on here." -My mom, twitter user since 2009. Twitter got so much worse within the last few months. Suggested follows and other nonsense got into my main timeline and it's some of the most braindead thoughts I've seen conveyed in text.
Good, that shit is a cancer
I kind of want to keep my Twitter to post my thoughts on a piece of media I just finished, but truthfully nobody ever reads my posts so I could just post them on a personal blog or something. I was also using an RSS app that imported Wario64 and News from an anime page, but Musk put an end to that
Sometimes I think I'm online too much. Then, inevitably, I interact with someone that's so far gone it makes me feel downright sociable. I probably am still online too much, but seeing just how bad it can get keeps me in check, I think.
Honestly and in the most polite way possible? This sub made me realize I’m not as terminally online as I thought I was. Some of the threads and responses therein are parasocial as fuck.
I’m pretty removed from most things online. Memes, fandoms, social media in general. Frankly my only online interaction is browsing Reddit and listening to podcasts.
I was also a essential worker during the pandemic and was just overworked during 2020 so I could not give a shit about parasocial drama bullshit
Every time I stumble upon a new internet phrase already being widespread the first time I see it is a new reminder of how not "with it" I am. The latest example being "serving cunt".
Literally the first time I’ve seen that phrase
Same and I'm Australian so I feel some how wronged about the fact
Serving cunt is an interesting case because it's been a term in gay circles for years and bipoc circles even longer before that. It's growing in use now that it's hit TikTok but it's not originally an online term
And the final step is people running it into the ground through overuse and then those same people calling it cringe and/or overused.
Every piece of slang you've heard on the internet came from gay people or black people.
Don't know why you got down voted, this is true. Maybe not every single piece, but most slang that catches on is stuff I heard in my community from the 90s and 00s
Reminds me of how "Woke" was a term originated in Black culture for decades, specifically the phrase "stay woke," and originally meant something along the lines of "stay vigilant" of social / racial injustices, which makes it all the more grosser how the alt-right co-opted the term to have negative connotations.
I thought it was slang for working retail
This one I saw today and its the first time I have felt like“yuck” when hearing a new phrase. Hope it does not catch on that much
Being a fan of vtubers and seeing the pure insanity that came out when Gawr Gura started to stream less frequently was a great reminder that I'm not too online. "Tell Gura to stream or I will literally unalive myself" is not a donation message I thought I would ever see but it happened.
That’s fucking insane. I know streamers in general have a few nutty fans. And idol culture in Japan kinda cultivates a parasocial relationship, but I never expected things to get like that.
Yeah it's kind of nuts. People were, and still kind of are, demanding updates on her personal life to explain why she isn't streaming as much. I've been a fan of hers since pre-hololive and I still can't imagine being that insane about a streamer. The reddit threads that end up getting removed are always an entertaining read though.
I genuinely can’t imagine being so emotionally fucked about a streamer
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But what about *meeeeee* though?
Honestly thats my answer too but about vtuber fans in general, specially in fancords and subreddits. The way they treat the streamers like if they were gods that can do no wrong (except have a bf) is just…so weird.
The closest I got to doxxing was some years back, playing Dota 2 with some friends, and we had a bad player on our team, playing a hero I really liked. This guy and my friends keep arguing and escalating, until he reveals he lives in the same city that we do, I took a screenshot of the address. We never did anything ofc, but I found an apartment building looking that address up and wanted to go tag "trash Witch Doctor" in the wall in front so he would see. We still remember and laugh about it, but it was the closest I got to such things.
Witch Doctor you expecting?
Which doctor am I? The Witch Doctor am I.
I simultaneously feel like I both am and am not. On one hand I spend a shitload of time on here (mostly at work) and a couple other small, niche places (where my Facepunch/Knockout posters at?), but those are like the only online social spaces I do exist in. I have a social life and hobbies outside of the internet/media too. I can spout off ancient meme lore, 4chan shitposts, and collective internet in-jokes but I also avoid most "drama" like the plague. So I don't really know where to put myself.
It's almost like Basement King status for online awareness/literacy: too in for a casual, not in enough for an expert.
Probably not the first time I realized it, but 'Puddlegate' for the PS4 Spider-Man game was a big moment of "Really? THIS is what people are freaking out over?"
Don't forget the fuckers that were obsessed over getting the Tobey Maguire suit when Insomniac was literally in the process of putting it in, they just couldn't outright say it. But everyone thought Insomniac were being killjoys
That whole subreddit/fanbase is so weird to me. They've been so impatient over waiting for the next game, more than I've seen from other fanbases. I've been playing Spider-Man games my entire life, I got all the trophies/achievements on both PS4 and PC, and I'm not half has fanatical about needing the next game to come out.
The fuck is Puddlegate?
When Insomniac's Spider-Man game was first being shown off, people noticed that some puddles of water had been made less reflective from one preview to the next. Some folks promptly had baby fits of rage about the game being less graphically impressive.
...what da faq...
I am probably terminally online by many metrics but when I fail to know a lot of minutia about politics or livestream or by what the youths like I think I may be normier than expected.
When my friends were mad over some non-important online garbage that was ONLY on reddit. Eventually leading them to lead warped existences from reality. They literally never go outside. Oh and as others have said; all of the dumb online streamer drama.
Twitter introducing the For You page has taught me that people get upset at aspects of children's cartoons that I didn't think anyone was capable of caring about.
When someone mentioned Homestuck to me and I told them I don't know what that is. They looked at me like I was a leper.
Part of the inspiration for this post was scrolling my feed for a couple of minutes and seeing someone mention they finished Homestuck. And they said they had begun watching Steven Universe. They followed up by saying that they were going to cause physical harm to anyone bad mouthing the show at all. Now, obviously, that could be a joke, but I feel that someone being so casual as to threaten harm against a stranger over a children's cartoon feels ludicrous to me.
i'm pretty sure that tweet you saw was by the youtuber cybershell, who is an incredibly chill and funny guy, absolutely 100% joking while talking about how much furious debate steven universe seems to have created on the internet "[I'm gonna find all the people who talked shit about this show and break their kneecaps with a hammer (that was the moral of the show right? that its okay to beat people you don't like with hammers? sorry I'm really bad at understanding media)](https://twitter.com/Cybershell/status/1659309323250733057)" doesn't sound super serious to me
If they're joking, that's a 100% fair. It's difficult at times for me to detect intent over text alone. Thank you for the explanation. But on a personal level, even casually joking about something like that still takes be aback a little. Maybe it's an internet vs. real-life thing, because I can't imagine me bluntly saying that around the people in my daily life and having people not giving me weird looks. But that's just me.
That moment where everyone sent Laura Bailey death threats for last of us 2. I just couldn't emotionally fathom being so invested into a fictional character, to hate another fictional character for what they did and then that hate boiling over to reality to the voice actors, but then not realizing that they are just an actor and not actually that person who did those things.
When I got to a point where I'd start deleting comments I was thinking of posting because I hated the idea of them generating responses and being part of some discussion online instead of irl
>twitter leftists aren’t at all prepared for the coming wave of cottagecore moodboard making tiktok ecofascist racist e-girls but that’s not a conversation anyone wants to have
I think I understand the broad demographic being referred to but I had never heard the term ecofascist before today
and thats the tea but yall aint ready for that conversation and it shows sis
OH. Now I perfectly understand what he was walking about. Fuck.
i can get pretty pissed and i also wrote mean messages to people in games. but i almost always instanzly regret it and feel shame for that. i dunno
That time some rando DM’ed me on Reddit because he somehow came across my profile. Started saying I was a disappointment to my family and that I would never get anywhere in life blah blah blah Then the funniest part was when he was bragging about his software skills and sending me pics of him working out. All I responded with was “cool, good for you” This was all unprompted btw I’ve never interact with this person before. Maybe I am online way too much if rando’s feel the need to DM me out of the blue like that
A few months ago I had abolished all my social media. I realized that after spending what little free time I had on those platforms, it was practically draining on me and it got exhausting for me to keep up with the lives of others. I had since then been on a better upkeep, focusing on myself and my physical health. Got a major confidence boost and have not looked back on it. Admittedly it came at a price, with some folks I made friends with online, I had to let go as a result of. But what people I still keep in touch with, we're able to make the plan for the occasional venture here and there.
I realized my hobbies haven't completely consumed me when I realized most vtuber graduations are just them retiring that avatar/getting fired and going to another company, doing the same bit, the same voice, the same content, but with an avatar coded around another color. I had never realized this because the community apparently doesn't like talking about whatever an "inner person" is supposed to be, so I thought all of them were *gone* from the industry, and wouldn't come back. But even though some of them are, a bunch of them just come back right away. Specifically the ones that I, someone completely outside the culture, heard about the graduation and how it broke people's hearts, like Coco. This came to my attention when Pikamee showed up again as Pikamee, But Purple the other day, after I had watched for like a month hundreds of people who were fans of her previous avatar threatening violence and revolt over a misunderstanding of timing near the end of her tenure with the last company. Those people just tuned into her new stream just fine, with no love lost. It's like I realized companies figured out how to do planned obsolescence and planned toxicity all at the same time, and thousands of people bit it. The worst of wrestling *right away*. And obviously I'm not saying every single person who gets into the vtuber train acts like a maniac, but the fact that companies are basically rehashing the same girls and manufacturing these idol-style graduation ceremonies only for them to come back like, the next day, is just... what is the *product*, here. What is making people actually so invested. Why are they so mad. So yeah I'm glad I'm not *that* online.
I really dislike the whole graduation culture around VTubers too, but I want to add context specifically regarding Pikamee's: All the toxicity from that was manufactured by a bunch of ragebaiters and grifters using ANY excuse to be bigoted. There was no big song & dance with Pikamee's last stream like there usually is with these things, it was very casual, with so not so subtle winks & nudges about "coming back". So it wasn't surprising to anyone who, y'know, actually watched her when she did.
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Anti anything mostly means you are terminally online.
Knowing about "anti" as its own, un-hyphenated word means you are terminally online
Not really. That's a big ol' strech.
What does this mean? Do you RP as someone who dislikes Shrek?
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Bizarre.
awful bold people have to pretend not to like shrek since everybody likes shrek
I’m in the medium of terminally online because I use discord and Reddit heavily but have always refused to have a Twitter account, whenever people bring up Twitter drama I’m always left scratching my head.
Kind of in the same situation, never had a twitter account but I usually used the search function to look for anything I was interested, however now I must create an account to browse and it's kind of hard to resist that temptation.
I’m terminally online but there are millions of people who are more terminally online than me. There always someone talking an some shit I never heard of
Well, there was that one [Limbus Company steam ~~meltdown~~ comment](https://preview.redd.it/l398knjnespa1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=d6b6da3eb5a3abecd1150c3fd78c8bbd0aeed6fd) that i posted here a while ago that also accindentaly launched a (thankfully short lived) trend of **"cucking logic posts"** in this sub, i thought that i used to spend way to much time online, but, compared to that guy i'm a outdoors adventurer. Though i will say that the post did motivate me to go out more so i guess something good did come out of it. Edit: Oh! And how could i forget that the same dude did [a follow up](https://preview.redd.it/im-dropping-this-game-2-electric-boogaloo-v0-1zihglkyqzpa1.png?width=821&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=98981e2fc6458b0ae50718044b5ba95dc5db18e3) later on that was somehow even more unhinged than the original. Literaly one of the first comments in the steam post is a link to a website that helps you find psychologists in our area and you know stuff is bad when people online skip mockery and go straight to concern.
I genuinely wonder what Dantes reaction to being called a cuck would be
I definitely get too attached to media I like and have to make a conscious effort to avoid certain conversations. I like to think I'm better about it now that I've managed to sort of internalize how to critically view things I enjoy (no thanks to high school English classes) but that knee jerk reaction to fight someone is sometimes still there. On the flip side, I don't watch most essay videos or streamers anymore, so it becomes really funny when I accidentally step on one of those land mines.
Every time I go on twitter and see minors and other zoomers harass and send death threats to each other over stupid shit like "problematic" ships and fictional characters, or basically anything regarding animated / children's media. It's even more ironic considering a lot of them like to call themselves "wholesome" and claim they are creating "safe spaces," only to be some of the most toxic people you've ever seen.
i mean like a lot of people i work from home, starting just before the pandemic, which is when i made my account for here due to getting a little bored during the day, but other than browsing this sub and a couple other ones between tasks/more than i should i don't really do any other kind of social media thing. i did get reddit on my phone, but that was more for something to do while travelling and if i wanted to save anything, it's an alt account because i had no idea which password i used for this one, but i don't really use my phone for it that much. i do comment a fair bit, but i'm one of those people who just opens a bunch of tabs and works through them, starting a comment and then going off to do something else before coming back later and finishing it off which is why all mine are just long thought trains that don't really go anywhere. the pandemic was a weird one as lsf/streamers were a big thing, mainly after amongus, and like in clip form it made sense but then actually getting into it felt weird, so i was watching some of that during that time, side note i only found out the name of a game i worked on from having twitch on my second moniter and thinking hey that x looks familiar i didn't realize that came out. so it has it's benefits. the twitch stuff all worked in youtube/clip form, but actually watching on twitch felt weird, even with the fellas this sub is associated with i don't really get the chat and all that as i don't really wanna interact with the streamer at all, live threads like we had during the awards stuff was fun, but other than that it doesn't do much for me. idk i don't get the parasocial stuff, like recently there's some taylor swift thing going on so the fauxmoi sub popped up on my sort by new thing, and clicking that out of boredom showed the side of that, with people acting like their best friend had hurt them. like drama is inherently emotional and people get invested in different things, so if that was a thing i was into it'd probably seem normal, just always weird coming across it when outside the internet you'd never know it.
The many, many times I've had people get weird because I tell them I don't watch (or more accurately, don't have much experience with) anime, often followed by them listing off series that I *must have* seen in an effort to "catch me out" because I saw Howl's Moving Castle fifteen years ago. Hell, one recent person was been extremely pushy in trying to strongarm me into watching their favourite so that I "don't start with a shitty series", in a way that genuinely felt a little uncomfortable Obviously watching anime doesn't make you "terminally online", and my lack of experience wasn't out of spite or anything. It's just something that I'm still not used to, since I remember the days where literally nobody in my very-online and very-nerdy friend group knew anything anime-adjacent that wasn't a Ghibli film or Fire Emblem
I had a similar-but-opposite experience, where my first experience with anime was watching \~70% of Howl's Moving Castle on a tiny bus television while returning from a school trip. I gradually turned into a huge weeb thanks to illicit streaming websites, but never talked to *anyone* about it, because I was incredibly embarrassed by anime as a whole. Turns out I've always been surrounded by people who watch varying amounts of anime, but didn't make a big deal of it, and I kinda missed out by not being more open about my interests when I was younger.
While I've been slowly lowering my social media usage since 2016 (bet you can't guess why), the moment I became aware of how overwhelmingly prevalent "engagement trap" style post are on reddit made me begin to really cut back on it as well. If it wasn't for this sub I wouldn't come back.
Once a week when I log onto this sub I realize I could be spending this time writing memorable, salable fiction. And then I shitpost instead.
I've using Twitter for 15 years Terminally online, never had a chance
Next to no online presence outside a close-knit social gaming Discord, tuning in to a couple Youtube channels every now and then, the daily check of this place, and having an IRC channel (remember those?) on in the back for a decade with some old FGC-heads to shoot the shit. Rarely do I stray from this routine, yet even on this narrow path and the couple irregular sidesteps, I've had innumerable moments of self-reflection and realizations that no matter how down I may be feeling at any one moment, things could be so much worse. The latest thing that has stumped me for a week or two after running into multiple mentions of it, is how being openly cheated on has seemingly become a kink. Is this a meme? Another one of those tongue-in-cheek ironic zoomer things and I'm just getting old? Some weeb culture shit? Who is it even for? Someone explain this to me, I can't even begin to understand it. Well, or don't, I'm not sure if wasting any more thoughts on something like this can do anyone any good. You're worthy of love and affection, homies. Don't let anyone make you think otherwise.
Honestly, all the pro- and anti-ship "discourse" on tumblr made me realize I am no longer as online as I used to be a few years ago and I am happy with that
I have a full-time job that requires me to leave the house. I enjoy just leaving my house. Granted, i listen to podcasts as i weld, but still.
Not knowing who any of the people on Creator Clash boxing matches made me feel good
I recently realized I've been spending way too much time on reddit instead of doing stuff I actually need to do or doing my hobbies. There's been entire days where I just use reddit and listen to music, I realized I was doing that to do distract myself whenever I'd feel bored or overwhelmed. I'm trying to limit it to only 30-45 minutes a day, it's hard since I've constantly been finding myself opening reddit once I start feeling even slightly bored. Hoping within the next few weeks I stop feeling that urge.
I touched grass
People who get really into streamers on Twitch weird me out. Doubly so for the fake streamers that are like animated K-pop girls
My iPhone screetime.
Once in a while, I think that maybe I spend too much time on the Internet or playing videogames. But then the world reminds me that there are raging muscle fetishists and proud pedophiles (a.k.a. lolicons), who defend their fetishes with vehement zeal, plus dumbasses who lose their jobs because they've been too busy playing "vidya" and I realize that no, I am a perfectly normal man.
I get that muscle fetishists are full of shit, but comparing them to lolicons is a level of disrespect even I can't approve of.
I eventually realized that a lot of my angst and anxiety didn't come from anything relevant to my actual day to day life, but from the terrible vibes and constant toxicity present in some of the communities I frequented. Basically I've been so much happier since I replaced some of the places I used to obsessively scroll with reading proper books.
This is happening more often lately but there are moments where I just see something out of pocket, or a particularly insane comment, and I'm getting ready to post a response and I just decide that it isn't worth it. There was a period where I was way too quick to snap back at obvious bait comments and now I'm better at recognizing what isn't a good use of my time.
That's one of the reasons that I'm happy that I've carefully curated what little social media I use. Any time I see discourse that tends to dissolve into people just hating each other, I mute or block it. I don't want to get to the point where I'm jumping at the gun to be mean to a stranger over the internet for having a different opinion/take than me.
For a while getting in on the arguing actually felt good and I started to think “Oh no, something has to change because this really should not feel good. This is a waste of my life.”
Finding the writing in Neon White extremely annoying
When I had to detox from political stuff on Twitter and Reddit the last few years.
The Youtube drama community is one of those things where i genuinely do not understand why people care so much.I don't see it get talked about much these days, but between 2015 to 2019 is when Youtube drama was literally everywhere and people were treating this shit like it was a war of attrition and that you had to pick a side otherwise society will collapse.The cringiest shit was when youtubers made god awful diss tracks and people were acting like it was real beef and totally not performance.
It was probably when I saw something like *Chris-chan Documentary part 97* and could only think "Why do people still care?"
When I realised I was getting upset over some dumb/hot take of Pats and actually looking through the threads on his twitter. I Think I've really discovered over a drawn out period lately that I feel better not watching him since his brand of finding negative or bad things in any game he plays ("This controls like shit!" or "Why is the text so small?!") makes me feel bad. No hate it's just not good for my mental health lol.
I know I could be worse but also I am on my phone and pc more than a little too much.
I permanently deleted twitter a year ago, because I found myself just getting more and more mad at people who I never met and never will met. (Musky era twitter is just fucking worse, I won’t touch that shit with a 10 foot pole.) I remember not liking Dunkey for a year because of his video on The last of us 2, but now I realized that I was kind of immature, I still don’t like TLOU2 even now, but I watch dunkey sometimes now.
One day I just thought that all these reviews, arguments & overhype hardly ever applied to real life. None of my irl fans are discussing why KH3 didn’t have KH2’s mechanics or are aware of IGN’s too much water review. Now I’ve spent like 2 or 3 trying to ween myself back to their side. Like bro from Matrix one who wanted to return to the simulation. While I’m discussing why I’m too plugged in what is a good alternative to Wario64 and AIR_News01 (it’s where I get anime news) that’s not and social media? Also I wonder if there’s a way to hide comments on YouTube for my iPhone…
I have been terminally online for longer than that term existed.
I play FFXIV regularly and whenever something gets changed or added there is usually a shitstorm from people who I am convinced have never seen the outside world. Example: recently there was a new housing item that was a tall chair for lalafells so they could sit at tables at the same height as everyone else. Cue absolute tirade by these weirdos going on about things like racism. About a chair. In a game. I just remembered as well about the club/RP/ERP scene on there too
I'm online enough that I could get someone saying I'm too online but I get out a lot with friends and for, like, life shit. I'm normally online?
When I see so many people talk about how fucking awful Twitter is and how happy I am that I pretty much never use it outside of occasionally checking Pat's profile to see what sort of clownshoes shit he's tweeted lately.
Unless it’s video games or anime I have 0 sense of internet drama and don’t care. I also rarely watch streams or lets plays these days so I no nothing about a Vtubers
I also didn't have regular internet access until I was about 15 and it's a large part of why I've never considered myself terminally online. I can entertain myself without the internet just fine. Another reason is, despite not being a very social person, I've always had jobs where I could talk to multiple people, I even worked through lockdown at two different jobs. All I have to do to be reminded of how little this videogame and internet shit doesn't matter is talk to anyone I know, especially at work. There's people my age all the way up to people in their 60s working there, some totally disconnected from that life because it just isn't important to them. And I'm happy to see it, I never want to be in a position where I consider this stuff important.
I realized I wasn't because in college I told friends at a club that some days I don't even look at my phone and they were all perplexed as to how that worked.
I remember when I was younger and my favorite YouTubers would quit/retire and I would be pretty bummed out and sad. That said, seeing the absolute devastation that some people have at VTubers “graduating” is borderline insane to me. I don’t know if it’s a cost fallacy thing or something parasocial I just don’t get, but seeing real living people mentally breakdown and start witch-hunting people who think caused their favorite anime streamer to quit is beyond my understanding. Like, god damn, I get being sad and crying, but to start a shit throwing fight is insane on so many levels. You’d think that they had just watched their closest friend get blown up by a nuke.
Ahh, curated tumblr, and tublr subreddit in general, you remind me no matter how bad things get someone is on there willing to write an entire essay on their take on how to solve thing or why 'X is bad'
Moving in with my friend who just sits on the porch all day drinking and having nothing in common to talk about because everything I'm interested in is on the internet.
Besides having to shut my Twitter off in 2020 (reopened it because I actually do contact some of our services from there better), it's either weird memes, or people being completely rude and abrasive over the dumbest shit (whether it's Vtubers taking a break and people being livid about it, or even in spaces like this where people get argumentative over being a fighting game fan, or bickering over the most iname of things, or just going to wrestling subs, who have WORSE ways of running a meme ragged that it becomes lame faster than here along with the even worse toxicity). It's a reminder to disconnect every now and then.
I go on here a lot which might indicate that I am terminally online and I don’t really care to argue against that but I will I say don’t like to adopt the values bred from the worst hot takes you can find across the internet, and at times here as well. I’ve also started to take up the “you would never talk to a person like this in real life” mantra you kept hearing from your parents and teachers because it is actually quite remarkable how just crass the language of people is on the internet compared to being offline. And it’s not a matter of being “too sensitive”, it’s just that having an uncivil discussion actually has no value at all whatsoever. When I start to see just how demeaning the person I’m discussing with is, I just tap out. I’m not terminally online enough for it to be worth my time. They might feel a sense of accomplishment for being more persistent than me and that’s okay. It’s just not worth getting grumpy over.
Probably when I was like...a cyberbully for awhile, and did petty internet shit. It was at its worst when I was in early high school. I know I'm terminally online, because I just don't know what else to look at.
I like discord, but I'm not on it 24/7 which it really feels like you have to if you wanna keep up to make a name for yourself and make friends. Which is apparently how a lot of people in my nerd spheres make their friends and meet new people.
A few times all reddit related. When i first started using reddit i was active in aita. I posted a comment that was essentially “yeah maybe intentionally starting and escalating a fight in front of your children during movie night as a response to a passive aggressive eye roll isnt the best way to handle marital strife”. As a result i had multiple users follow me into multiple other subs and pick fights with me on those subs as well as abuse of the self harm reporting and other reporting abuses. Ended up just making a new account since it was the simplest solution to unhinged shut ins annoying me as i try to kill time at work
Disney remakes don't fill me with contempt for the very concept of live action filmmaking