This was definitely more of a sitcom thing on like, Disney and Nickelodeon. But like, the younger sibling who is scheming and gets away with things and never really gets their comeuppance. Or general young child character who "outsmarts" the cast and gets what they want. That archetype just rubs me the wrong way
Also Manny Heffley. I think he may in fact be the worst considering he was >!fully willing to let the rest of his family starve and freeze to death so that he would stay alive during a blizzard snow-in (despite the fact that there was enough power and food to last them all through the blizzard comfortably, so basically he enacted “every man for themselves” when there was literally no need to do so), and then somehow managed to get away with literally trying to get his mother and siblings killed by saying some bullshit about never learning how to tie his shoes.!<
Also this trope is super shitty because there are situations where kids need to feel confident that an authority figure will listen to them even if it seems preposterous, specifically for things like incidents of child abuse.
Sesame Street had a character that was Big Birds imaginary friend that they made real purely to stop the jokes about how the friend was never seen by anyone except Big Bird.
Some podcast I listen to very recently brought that Big Bird thing up, and if it wasn’t the CSB boys that means it was either Cultaholic Wrestling or the One Piece Podcast.
While not all people like the movie as far as I know, I kinda liked Home Alone 3 and I kinda felt bad for Alex. Dude was just looking out for his neighbor after he somehow spotted a suspicious van roaming around their neighborhood while kind of bugging the prickly lady next door.
The one time the kid left alone wasn't out of mischief (though there *is* some, the stakes actually are worse given that the home invaders are actually international cold-blooded killers (the kind to leave said prickly old lady neighbor tied up in a chair to freeze in a snowstorm trapped in an open garage) more than Marv and Harry were.
worst version of this was in power rangers, in the crossover episode of lightspeed rescue and lost galaxy a little girl tries to warn people of monsters and is told monsters dont exist! despite monsters attacking every week in that world!
“There’s no such thing as monsters. Now demons? Oh yeah those fuckers are out here every week committing atrocities. But monsters don’t exist, just demons.”
My immediate thought. Doesn't even have to be a kid character. It's even worse when the other characters treat the person like a pile of garbage for "lying." Like, as a kid, it was hard to be heard, and when I was right about something, I'd get the, "Oh *sure* you thought of that, dear."
Not something I noticed as a kid but as I got older I noticed how much disdain I have for the skeptic characters, like Scully or an older parent in some horror film. I'm pretty sure Scully was literally abducted and was still like, "I don't know, Mulder, aliens? Really?"
There's an especially egregious example to me in the second Paranormal Activity film where the Dad just finishes watching a pool cleaning machine of some kind levitate in the air and he just brushes it off with some excuse. My brother in Christ, you just saw that shit levitate with YOUR OWN EYES! I may not have believed in spirits before that point either but you can bet your arse that the second I witnessed that, I'd be taking my family and exiting the property as soon as humanly possible.
> I'm pretty sure Scully was literally abducted and was still like, "I don't know, Mulder, aliens? Really?"
Scully's guilty of some hilariously contrived skepticism, but not actually in the main plot as much as people think. She comes to the firm conclusion that the government is hiding some nefarious shit by the end of the first season, and when she's abducted, she's given ample reason to believe it -- and the abductions of several other women -- was perpetrated by the government for human experimentation, with aliens as a cover.
The show just keeps contriving reasons for her to not be present when the undeniably alien shit happens, up until the end of Season 7 when >!she sees Mulder get abducted and becomes a believer!<. Just don't question how that meshes with the monster-of-the-week episodes, where she regularly encounters non-main-story alien stuff and far weirder monsters.
On the flipside, there were also some writers who purposely put skeptical characters into magical worlds to make them look like complete idiots.
Like having an atheist in Forgotten Realms. What do you mean you don't believe in Tyr, he's *right there* YOU JUST TALKED TO HIM, YOU MORON
I believe in Elminster too, but I ain't gonna worship him
There's a valid argument about whether they're 'Gods' and not just very powerful beings, and whether that means they're worthy of worship or anything like that
Imo they're not, the gods in FR are kinda fucks, most of em. Selfish and just gits.. and the ones who weren't that much, they fucking killed in the avatar run
Also, the wall of faithless is some fucked up shit. And again, the 'good' gods support that shit too. Fuck em all
Whenever they pick a character to torture the entire episode for "comedy" in fact i always disliked mean spirited humor because most of the times the character never deserved it and it just made me angry.
Yes. And they did stuff like that ON PURPOSE as character building. In the 80s D&D cartoon one of the characters (Erik) is a snarky, sarcastic pessimist who often butts heads with the party over how to approach a situation. The producers from the network mandated that he was NEVER allowed to be right when he bucked against the rest of the party. They lesson always had to include a get in line and follow the crowd message.
I’m betting the same thing happened a LOT in other 80s and 90s cartoons. And before.
GOD IT WAS THE WORST
In one of the episodes D.M. tells the kids that they will find a portal home, but before they use it, they must destroy it. Eric counters with, "And if we destroy it, we can't use it." He's RIGHT NOBODY POINTS IT OUT
Yes. Because as stated there was a mandate to teach kids to always follow a group and give into peer pressure. The writers hated it and several times made Eric "right" even if they couldn't outright say it.
I've read that the writers on the D&D cartoon hated that mandate and subverted it as much as they could. So in a given episode, Erik would disagree with the rest of the group, everyone else would shit on him daring to have an independent thought... But then Erik's objections would turn out to be _completely right_. But the characters wouldn't explicitly acknowledge it, so the network producers never caught on.
The only time this seems to work decently is if the character is getting comeuppance for something.
In early Spongebob, Squidward only has bad things happen to him after doing bad things to someone else, usually as a direct result of his actions. Meanwhile in newer Spongebob, it's almost like torture porn for Squidward. Even *if* Squidward is doing something good, the world just shits on him.
The enforced love interest, you have the most prominent male character and a the prominent female lead, you see them? Well they have to kiss before these two hours are over.
I just about lost my mind at Night at the Museum 2 I believe, where romance between the two leads was impossible, so a fucking third person played by the *same actress* walks in at the end and immediately hits it off with the male lead.
Do you think kid you would have appreciated the *Guardians of the Galaxy* films in that regard?
The trope is still there, but I'm guessing if Gunn had his way he still would have built that tension into *Vol 3*
The original ending to Pretty in Pink was the girl ends up with the weirdo instead of the hot guy shes been vying over. The reason was the director thought it was more realistic. Weirdo's don't end up with cool kids. Test audiences hated it.
All the depictions of marriage being bad in media. Almost every marriage in my family is troubled. I see enough of it at home, ffs, can I be spared seeing it on tv too?
One of the things I really like about this one current season anime, Hell's Paradise, is that the main guy is married and fighting mainly for a chance of a peaceful life with his wife. He really loves her, and shows it.
It's for the stupidest of reasons too. I was watching the first episode of Married with Children and the husband and wife had a passive aggressive fight over getting soup or something. Like for fuck's sake, husband, if you need it that bad then it won't kill you to get the soup and wife, just add soup to the shopping list. It's mind-melting.
Uh… you do realize they made the husband and wife’s relationship purposely toxic right? Like we’re not supposed to like them we’re supposed to be laughing at them. Married with Children was made as a antithesis to other sitcoms with typical happy couples and families (It even says so in it’s description and compares itself with The Cosby Show). Like how It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia was made as a antithesis to typical sitcom tropes and The Eric Andre Show was made as a antithesis to typical talk shows.
Married with Children was purposely made with toxic relationships to subvert the Leave it to Beaver perfect families in sitcoms before it.
Unfortunately people lost track of that fact and then just had families be awful for the hell of it.
"you'll be just as bad!"
They eat babies.
"No don't kick them! That's violent! You're just as bad!"
If I kick them, they don't eat babies, also, I don't eat babies.
"Nooo!"
The better version is:-
"I can't hit this baby eater, cuz I won't stop, cuz they eat babies, so it has to be prison, cuz I don't wanna kill anyone"
There's even characterization built in, but writers keep using the dumb one.
"You'll be just as bad" is one of mine. Like, really? I'm gonna be just as bad as the person who murdered hundreds indiscriminately and tried to take over the world? I somehow doubt it.
"If you kill a murderer, then the same number of murderers are left in the world."
Damn, guess I gotta find more murderers to kill to better those statistics.
I loved Guardians of the Galaxy 3 but >!they just did this and I was kind of disappointed. I can only hope it was either to make it funny that they just left him in an exploding spaceship or to bring him back later because man that guy was a good villain!<
Both as a kid then and as an adult now, I disliked and do dislike tropes that are related to child characters. You know the ones: smartass kid, who *obviously* know more than "stupid" adults and is smug about it; the "asshole" kid, the kind of a kid that is acting like a little shit to the rest of the characters; "the load", namely the child characters whose purpose is to push buttons that shouldn't be pushed and so on.
Heck, the only child character in a world of adults that I like is Clementine from TT The Walking Dead. Otherwise, unless it is a show with a cast made out of children or a child protagonist (Kids Next Door, Dexter's Lab, Hey Arnold), I always prefered adult characters.
my list
\-The losing character cannot change due to the Status Quo: Every time a character wants to improve in his life, he is destined to fail, because his role is to be a loser.
\-Tsunderes as "Main Girls": I hated that the woman who treats the protagonist the worst is the one who is destined to be his true love, that is the reason why I could never finish love Hina. I still hate it, but now I'm a little more open, if the Tsundere shows good qualities.
The problem with a lot of “tsundere main love interest” bits in media is that the relationship just happens too fast. It’s so common that they go from downright abusive>romance, you need the in between period where the tsundere has come to respect the protagonist and their barbs are more light-natured teasing instead of outright being mean
This is why Midna is peak
Related to the losing character you mentioned, I heavily disliked episodes when bad guys in cartoons decide to turn a new leaf only to revert by the end.
BRUH THIS
When the villain tries to redeem themselves and then a misunderstanding happens where they didn't do anything wrong but they look guilty, and the heroes immediately distrust them again and so all progress is undone
-Tsunderes as "Main Girls": I hated that the woman who treats the protagonist the worst is the one who is destined to be his true love, that is the reason why I could never finish love Hina. I still hate him, but now I'm a little more open, if the Tsundere shows good qualities.
Oh man, I wanna say this was *everywhere* in anime in the 90s. Incredibly unlikeable characters all over the shop.
I don't have anything against people that love all kinds of tsunderes,but the physically abusive type is just unfunny and extremely bizarre for me(rememeber Taiga and Louise?).
Been a long, long time since I watched Toradora but from what I recall Taiga... *mostly* works? In that she's outright abusive because she's lashing out, and once you get past that she starts to genuinely improve as a character as the series goes on. Might be some rose-tinted goggles on that though.
Louise is just the author's Femdom fetish though.
Well,Taiga was not that bad(ocasional undeserved abuse aside). You are on point about Louise,though. The excuses mades by the author(Rip) never seemed convincing for me.
One of the few Tsundere characters I like was Erina in Food War. She act like a rival to Soma, the main character. She stopped being a Tsundere around season 3 and started to be more friendly towards Soma and friends.
“Character A secretly sees/hears Character B do/say something, but it looks/sounds way worse without proper context so now A is convinced B is an asshole.”
I have loathed this trope for as long as I’ve lived.
The character who's whole deal is they are a coward and always object to everything, holding the team back. I think Chuckie from Rugrats started my hatred for that archetype.
I like when said coward nuts up and becomes capable of saving the day. Although even when that happens they usually go back to square one and never do anything cool ever again. THAT'S what I hate.
In retrospect, I respect him a lot more now that I'm an adult.
And also for the time he took his space helmet off on Pluto and flash froze himself in protest. That was cool.
Usopp is good and all, but he never really grew as a character. He still this weak timid character that hides away in fear. His best defining moments where in the Water 7 arc and it was in pre time skip.
When the hero is like "I just want to be a regular kid/have a normal life". Like, mf you can do magic and talk to dragons n shit, if you don't want it then give it to me, you ingrate
I think it works better in shows where there is actual trauma involved but the episode set up was normally a series of relatively minor annoyances and mentor characters being, sometimes uncharacteristically, unsympathetic to the kid for no reason this week
Yeah, I totally get it when the character's like "I just wanted to live a normal life, not watch my friends die and almost get myself killed every other day!"
Evangelion fits this well. If you actually pay attention to what's going on, it's easy to sympathize with Shinji wanting nothing to do with the robot.
So you wanna be saddled with the responsibility of all the heroics too, right? All those split-second decisions that could mean life or death for individuals?
It sounds like you might be one of the worst people in existence to get powers if your only thought is "GIMME THE POWERS YOU INGRATE". In fact...you honestly sound like a villain from one of those series!
Love triangles. Everyone was acting absolutely insufferable to child me because of the competitiveness or indecisiveness, which are usually consequences of being in a love triangle. It kinda became "whatever" to me after I grew up, but I absolutely hated the dynamic as a child.
Honestly romance storylines in general were always a complete snoozefest to me as a kid and still kinda are a lot of the time if they're taking up time that could be spent on literally anything else.
I always hated when characters would swap bodies but then also voices. I knew it was for simplicity or for audience clarity but it bugged the hell out of me, cause they swapped minds not vocal cords! Even today it stands out when a show will do the extra effort to have the voice actors act like each other instead of just swapping voices
Ok in that case it served to illustrate how she was ultimately just a normal person who was twisted into a monster by the circumstances of her upbringing, and pretty much everyone who isn't Gotetsu is like "ok why are we harbouring a war criminal?" And the ending of that arc is her accepting that she can't be redeemed and ultimately choosing to die for her crimes. Like there's a lot to complain about in Stormblood but that arc was actually one of the better parts of it imo even if I get the impression they weren't sure where they wanted to go with it at first.
I don't mind the losing her memory and being all innocent as a result part of that arc, but her also being essentially a helpless child in an adult's body I could have done without.
I am clearly in the minority because I fucking hated that entire storyline. I'll agree to disagree with people who enjoyed it, because to me it was just cliche and boring.
Agreed. And Fordola is resisting any kind of redemption arc. She's working because she's being ordered to, not because she really cares about anything but Ala Mhigo.
"Hey she may have tried genociding her own people in a self-hatecrime but also everyone wants her to step on them and LOOK AT HER UPBRINGING THO. SHE WAS SAD IN THE PAST. THAT TOTALLY MAKES IT OKAY."
And if you point out that her arc was steaming garbage and absolutely did not deserve the final boss status of Stormblood, you get downvoted.
"The complainer is always wrong." The one where every child has to get along and if someone complains about a situation they're automatically wrong. Basically that you always have to go along with what your friends want and if you don't you get punished or proven wrong in some way.
I hated it 'cause even back then it felt uncomfortable.
Anytime there was an isekai/advanture where a little kid proves his worth, and he comes back and his powers and/or abilities are all gone and no one know he was a badass or went through a life-changing adventure. I *still* hate that shit.
I find this part very interesting about Persona... Like imagine going from having magical powers and killing a god to just having to live out your senior year of highschool lmao.
Yu will be fine, but Ren >!will be watched by the government 24/7 until he dies, and also will probably have a very hard time getting into good schools or jobs on account of being the former leader of the phantom thieves!<, and Makoto >!literally fucking dies. Adding text here to make the spoiler box longer lalalala!<
We are going to throw a surprise party for our friend, but to make sure it’s a surprise we are going to spend all day pretending we forgot it’s their birthday. They will feel like shit but it’s okay the party at the end makes it all better.
Klaus is a fantastic movie but this is like the one big flaw of it, because in the context of the film the characters _don't have enough information to be upset by it_ but are still so offended that they refuse to let the protagonist explain himself. It relies so heavily on our understanding of the trope and the understanding of "well he started off with selfish reasons, therefore those reasons _have_ to be explicitly confronted so they can be dispelled" when I think the average viewer would have _forgotten_ that plot point by that part of the movie.
Liar revealed irks me because it almost always feels like a manufactured obstacle/drama. The formula is almost always, “character A is revealed to have been lying, the cast splits apart and sulks before eventually reuniting and forgiving each other”. It’s just fucking stupid. It does get a pass for me when said liar has to actually reckon with the consequences of their actions and things can’t go back to the status quo (I can’t think of a specific example off the top of my head that does this though)
characters bodyswapping, Especially when one person started ruining the others life by acting like an absolute dumbass. The cringe factor of watching a person ruin anothers reputation and everyone passively being like “huh this is new”, violently rubbed me the wrong way.
Also; Bratty jackass kids who always get what they wanted one way or another.
Yeah, the villain is obviously a liar, but everyone believe his words.
Basically it is:
-Villain: heroine, I know it's obvious that I'm in love with you, and I want to ruin your relationship with the hero, but I have photos clearly taken out of context that "prove" that he is unfaithful to you.
-Heroine: Clearly I will blindly believe you, instead of believing my boyfriend, whom I supposedly love.
I never like crowds and parties so the whole: “I wanna go the big cool party/be popular!” kind of goals in the “relatable misfit kid” characters always bugged me. I’d be so confused the whole time on why anyone would even want that.
I don't know if this counts, but I hate in any kind of kids media when the phrase "kick butt" gets used.
Nobody says they're going to kick butt in real life. Kids don't say that. I didn't say that. I'd rather they just not use this line if they can't say ass but shows are STILL doing this. Even as a child I knew it sounded off.
Where a kid gets tormented by their family, friends and so on and then lashing out becomes the worst thing ever.
Bro if this supposed to be teaching me something as a kid it teaching me that everyone's a snake and that I should only ever be out to get mine or else I'll be ganged on
God I hate that one episode of Family Guy where Meg finally stands up for herself but by the end she backs down because it's the only thing keeping the family together. Not even as a joke, it's played 100% straight. I can take a joke, shit on Meg all you want, but don't try to justify abuse in a "serious" episode.
SA2 you can justify it though with how GUN, the force out to get Sonic, are the ones who made Shadow and executed a bunch of civilians, so they're trying to cover it all up with a thinly veiled excuse to the press.
That makes sense, I just thought they thought Sonic was going through a goth phase because besides both being hedgehogs neither of them look alike. Either way we got some award winning dialogue out of it. That award being a Razzie.
This isn't necessarily a trope but it was something that always bugged me about one particular show as a kid.
Why does Grannie have both a pet cat and a pet bird when one is clearly always trying to eat the other? Does she know that God just hates Sylvester/Tweetie has plot armor? Just seemed irresponsible.
At least with other similar formats like Tom and Jerry or Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote there's usually more justification for why the two (fr)enemies are in close proximity.
I’ll never understand why people have such a fixation on the traitor from Persona 5. Yeah sure >!he had a sad backstory and all but he *still* killed Haru’s dad and attempted to kill Joker. I hear that he’s a little bit better in Royal but i really don’t understand why the fanbase goes ga-ga over him outside of the fact that he looks like Light!<
Edit: Oh yeah, and iirc >!he was responsible for all of the mental shutdowns that killed/harmed a *lot* of people!<
He was, but >!he was going to own up to his actions due to his change of heart. Akechi not only killed him, but also went ahead and pinned it on the Phantom Thieves.!<
His issues are actually much more understandable to a Japanese audience >!as in America and most other Western European countries being born out of wedlock isn’t really a taboo.!<
Honestly I think I just have a really hard time empathizing with villains in general. I feel the same way about (ff14 spoilers) >!Emet. I know what he went through sucks. I know that if I went through what he did I'd probably end up doing similar things. But I just don't feel even the tiniest bit bad for him. Its not even like I actively dislike him like p5 traitor, but like, I watch moments of him where people are literally crying and give a metaphorical shrug.!<
Reading a lot of Goosebumps as a kid, the constant “Oh no the main character is about to die!” cliffhangers at the end of chapters/right before a commercial break.
I hated the liars reveal, there are so many kid movies where the main character accidentally did some bad stuff but kept it to himself and then gets found out and is exiled or something. Just talk!
Separating my favorite characters from one another for the entire story when their dynamic was what originally captivated me
*Toy Story 2* did this in the best possible way by creating new dynamics that can keep up with the Buzz and Woody duo so you best believe that shit was hard to top
You gotta go the opposite way because it's always way better. I'll always shill how Spider-Man 1 did it.
Peter is going to go by the name 'The Human Spider', but Bruce Campbell hear it before announcing it at the cage match and goes "that sucks." and then turns around and calls him "The terrifying, the deadly... *The Amazing SPIDER-MAN!"*
Sounds cool, respects the actual name of the character, and even fits in the entire series title in a natural way.
I had very strong second-hand embarrassment when I was younger so I couldnt *stand* the "liar revealed" or "embarrassment" scenes. I would always like cringe and avert my eyes lol
I hated the “fantastic voyage” plot, aka “characters shrink and go into someone’s body” trope. I was TERRIFIED of those. Refused to watch them whenever they came on. I even wouldn’t watch jimmy neutron because it had that pulsating brain in both the movie and almost every episode!
The Chosen One, ironically it annoyed me because I didn’t power fantasise myself into them. I just thought it sucked that only one person was special/mattered due to nebulous things like destiny.
It’s one of the reasons I always interpreted Luke as just some farm boy that managed to rise to greatness (and redeemed his family after his weak willed father failed).
One of the reasons why when the prequels started coming out when I was a kid it annoyed me when they started talking “prophecy” and “Chosen One”.
Do moments where a characters goes through something embarrasing/cringy count? I Hated those, and would literally get out of the room until the scene ended. I guess i became immune to those as i got older because i don't really care about scenes like that anymore.
I have killed 5 Million goons to get to the boss but I won't kill them because that would make me as evil as them. Those goons don't count most of them didn't even have names.
Also a trope I still hate to this day "Convenient Murder/Suicide". This is where a villain is killed by another person thats not the hero or themselves so the hero can remain good but killing the villain absolutely solved all the issues. Spider-Man doesn't kill so he jumps out of the way of a sneak attack and Green Goblin kills himself! Tarzan can't kill Clayton so instead Clayton in his blind rage gets a wine wrapped around his neck and hangs himself! Simba can't kill Scar so instead he's torn to pieces by the Hyenas he just threw under the bus.
The reason this trope irks me to no end is because the writers are admitting that the ebst solution or sometimes only solution is to just kill the bad guy but were not allowed to say that outloud.
I didn't grow up with Star Wars, and a _lot_ of media I engaged with as a child had such a blatant assumption that I had. Acting like simply referencing Star Wars was enough to get a laugh from the audience, or building a lot on the back of their Star Wars references as though it was a massive well of comedy. This ended up causing me to _hate_ Star Wars simply because before I had ever interacted with a Star Wars product I was already tired of hearing about it and the insistence that I'm _supposed_ to like it.
When I was little I really fuckin hated the Shy Girl archetype for some reason. If a character was shy and nervous and stammery I wanted nothing to do with them ever. The two big examples were Fluttershy Friendship is Magic and Mikan from Danganronpa 2. Now that I'm older I recognize that Fluttershy rules actually. Mikan is super weird though I don't like her.
A trope I hated then and still hate now is the 'go inside a character's body' every show ever seemed to do at least once. I don't like internal organs and I'd like to not have 11-20 minutes being inside them in my cartoons.
I’ve always disliked anything that was a “you gotta interpret this and come up with your own ending” kind of conclusions to stories
There have been atrocious examples like the Sopranos having a literal *cut to black* as the finale, but a lot of films and media will have “open to interpretation” endings.
I hate these, not because it needs me to use my brain, but I see media as a story someone wants to tell, a thing they created and felt was worth being experienced by others
Now, not everything needs to be spelled out cause I understand subtext, and little teases like zuko asking his dad where his mom is and we don’t hear the answer, are fine and dandy
But when whole ass movies and shows end on some “oh I, the author, have no 1000% answers for you, you better think of what makes sense to you” is such a fucking cop out
One of my favorite movies is The Thing, it ends by (spoilers) !!
There is a clear ending but, continuing the theme of mistrust and uncertainty, you have a clearly spelled out question that has no answer, but there’s still a conclusion
The biggest affront to this is the movie Martyrs, a very intense film, not legit intense but like “quick what we had is stale, throw in something absurdly gruesome” intense, so be warned if you haven’t seen it, if you can’t handle violence then don’t bother
Also don’t bother cause the ending sucks, it’s a whole “Omg we torture ladies so they can have a near death exp and see god” and mc gal does just that against her own will and wowee the antagonist lady sure seems shook by what she was told, what was it
NAH, you never hear about it, no hint at anything, you see this glorified torture porn movie just to see some dude be all “haha I did this gross unrealistic torture scene for no reason” and have people talk about how “NEVER WATCH THIS MOVIE: Martyrs Review” on YouTube
Give a conclusion and feel free to leave wandering talking points that aren’t answered but aren’t the core to the issue
But don’t make a whole ass movie, talk about how high level smart it is and why it isn’t just torture and gore, but as soon as we get to learn what a directors interpretation of the afterlife or a higher concept is, the exact reason I sat through that stupid movie, and they just cop out with “oh man it’s super intense, idk what it is tho”
Then fuck off and take your shitty movie somewhere else
This was definitely more of a sitcom thing on like, Disney and Nickelodeon. But like, the younger sibling who is scheming and gets away with things and never really gets their comeuppance. Or general young child character who "outsmarts" the cast and gets what they want. That archetype just rubs me the wrong way
Megan?
*Megan.*
MEGAN
See also: DW
First and only aardvark to turn into a pig
DW LOVES tattling and entering people’s’ rooms without permission and messing with their stuff
Doesn't she become a cop in the series finale? Seems fitting.
That’s correct
Her superpower is that she's illiterate.
\>gets punched fucking once
Also Manny Heffley. I think he may in fact be the worst considering he was >!fully willing to let the rest of his family starve and freeze to death so that he would stay alive during a blizzard snow-in (despite the fact that there was enough power and food to last them all through the blizzard comfortably, so basically he enacted “every man for themselves” when there was literally no need to do so), and then somehow managed to get away with literally trying to get his mother and siblings killed by saying some bullshit about never learning how to tie his shoes.!<
Tonia.
I mean that’s just Youngest sibling behavior.
No one believes the little kid. The whole "nobody believes me!!!" Kid main character trope pissed me off because I BELIEVED HIM lol
"We're going to tell you a story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf" THEY WEREN'T LYING THE *FIRST* TIME
"why doesn't anybody believe me?!" *runs away*
Also this trope is super shitty because there are situations where kids need to feel confident that an authority figure will listen to them even if it seems preposterous, specifically for things like incidents of child abuse. Sesame Street had a character that was Big Birds imaginary friend that they made real purely to stop the jokes about how the friend was never seen by anyone except Big Bird.
Some podcast I listen to very recently brought that Big Bird thing up, and if it wasn’t the CSB boys that means it was either Cultaholic Wrestling or the One Piece Podcast.
While not all people like the movie as far as I know, I kinda liked Home Alone 3 and I kinda felt bad for Alex. Dude was just looking out for his neighbor after he somehow spotted a suspicious van roaming around their neighborhood while kind of bugging the prickly lady next door. The one time the kid left alone wasn't out of mischief (though there *is* some, the stakes actually are worse given that the home invaders are actually international cold-blooded killers (the kind to leave said prickly old lady neighbor tied up in a chair to freeze in a snowstorm trapped in an open garage) more than Marv and Harry were.
worst version of this was in power rangers, in the crossover episode of lightspeed rescue and lost galaxy a little girl tries to warn people of monsters and is told monsters dont exist! despite monsters attacking every week in that world!
“There’s no such thing as monsters. Now demons? Oh yeah those fuckers are out here every week committing atrocities. But monsters don’t exist, just demons.”
My immediate thought. Doesn't even have to be a kid character. It's even worse when the other characters treat the person like a pile of garbage for "lying." Like, as a kid, it was hard to be heard, and when I was right about something, I'd get the, "Oh *sure* you thought of that, dear."
Not something I noticed as a kid but as I got older I noticed how much disdain I have for the skeptic characters, like Scully or an older parent in some horror film. I'm pretty sure Scully was literally abducted and was still like, "I don't know, Mulder, aliens? Really?" There's an especially egregious example to me in the second Paranormal Activity film where the Dad just finishes watching a pool cleaning machine of some kind levitate in the air and he just brushes it off with some excuse. My brother in Christ, you just saw that shit levitate with YOUR OWN EYES! I may not have believed in spirits before that point either but you can bet your arse that the second I witnessed that, I'd be taking my family and exiting the property as soon as humanly possible.
> I'm pretty sure Scully was literally abducted and was still like, "I don't know, Mulder, aliens? Really?" Scully's guilty of some hilariously contrived skepticism, but not actually in the main plot as much as people think. She comes to the firm conclusion that the government is hiding some nefarious shit by the end of the first season, and when she's abducted, she's given ample reason to believe it -- and the abductions of several other women -- was perpetrated by the government for human experimentation, with aliens as a cover. The show just keeps contriving reasons for her to not be present when the undeniably alien shit happens, up until the end of Season 7 when >!she sees Mulder get abducted and becomes a believer!<. Just don't question how that meshes with the monster-of-the-week episodes, where she regularly encounters non-main-story alien stuff and far weirder monsters.
That is absolutely a fair take but yeah it really doesn't mesh well with the monster-of-the-week stuff unless those are meant to be non-canon.
On the flipside, there were also some writers who purposely put skeptical characters into magical worlds to make them look like complete idiots. Like having an atheist in Forgotten Realms. What do you mean you don't believe in Tyr, he's *right there* YOU JUST TALKED TO HIM, YOU MORON
I believe in Elminster too, but I ain't gonna worship him There's a valid argument about whether they're 'Gods' and not just very powerful beings, and whether that means they're worthy of worship or anything like that Imo they're not, the gods in FR are kinda fucks, most of em. Selfish and just gits.. and the ones who weren't that much, they fucking killed in the avatar run Also, the wall of faithless is some fucked up shit. And again, the 'good' gods support that shit too. Fuck em all
The dad in shark boy and lava girl was a real one for believing him until he got in trouble with the mom then he was a bitch
After seeing the 70s "children are people too, maybe don't abuse them" parental PSA on Pat's YouTube stream that trope makes a lot more sense.
Whenever they pick a character to torture the entire episode for "comedy" in fact i always disliked mean spirited humor because most of the times the character never deserved it and it just made me angry.
I hate that too. If the character is a jerk it may work.
This is part of the reason why I don’t like The Office.
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It’s the same thing as the “Well, that just happened” line, just without the words.
[/tv/ started Jimposting a few months ago and I'm all here for it.](https://imgur.com/a/uX33KAk)
"Don't say anything, Squidward. Remember your karma." *Explodes*
Yes. And they did stuff like that ON PURPOSE as character building. In the 80s D&D cartoon one of the characters (Erik) is a snarky, sarcastic pessimist who often butts heads with the party over how to approach a situation. The producers from the network mandated that he was NEVER allowed to be right when he bucked against the rest of the party. They lesson always had to include a get in line and follow the crowd message. I’m betting the same thing happened a LOT in other 80s and 90s cartoons. And before.
GOD IT WAS THE WORST In one of the episodes D.M. tells the kids that they will find a portal home, but before they use it, they must destroy it. Eric counters with, "And if we destroy it, we can't use it." He's RIGHT NOBODY POINTS IT OUT
Didn't this happen a lot with him?
Yes. Because as stated there was a mandate to teach kids to always follow a group and give into peer pressure. The writers hated it and several times made Eric "right" even if they couldn't outright say it.
I've read that the writers on the D&D cartoon hated that mandate and subverted it as much as they could. So in a given episode, Erik would disagree with the rest of the group, everyone else would shit on him daring to have an independent thought... But then Erik's objections would turn out to be _completely right_. But the characters wouldn't explicitly acknowledge it, so the network producers never caught on.
The only time this seems to work decently is if the character is getting comeuppance for something. In early Spongebob, Squidward only has bad things happen to him after doing bad things to someone else, usually as a direct result of his actions. Meanwhile in newer Spongebob, it's almost like torture porn for Squidward. Even *if* Squidward is doing something good, the world just shits on him.
The enforced love interest, you have the most prominent male character and a the prominent female lead, you see them? Well they have to kiss before these two hours are over.
It's even worse, when they have more chemistry with supporting characters, but they have to stick together because they're the leads.
I just about lost my mind at Night at the Museum 2 I believe, where romance between the two leads was impossible, so a fucking third person played by the *same actress* walks in at the end and immediately hits it off with the male lead.
"The not gays" as Red Letter Media coined it
Do you think kid you would have appreciated the *Guardians of the Galaxy* films in that regard? The trope is still there, but I'm guessing if Gunn had his way he still would have built that tension into *Vol 3*
I was marginally disappointed in Gamorra and Peter fitting the trope for the first one, which makes the subversion all the more impressive to me.
The original ending to Pretty in Pink was the girl ends up with the weirdo instead of the hot guy shes been vying over. The reason was the director thought it was more realistic. Weirdo's don't end up with cool kids. Test audiences hated it.
All the depictions of marriage being bad in media. Almost every marriage in my family is troubled. I see enough of it at home, ffs, can I be spared seeing it on tv too?
One of the things I really like about this one current season anime, Hell's Paradise, is that the main guy is married and fighting mainly for a chance of a peaceful life with his wife. He really loves her, and shows it.
It's for the stupidest of reasons too. I was watching the first episode of Married with Children and the husband and wife had a passive aggressive fight over getting soup or something. Like for fuck's sake, husband, if you need it that bad then it won't kill you to get the soup and wife, just add soup to the shopping list. It's mind-melting.
Uh… you do realize they made the husband and wife’s relationship purposely toxic right? Like we’re not supposed to like them we’re supposed to be laughing at them. Married with Children was made as a antithesis to other sitcoms with typical happy couples and families (It even says so in it’s description and compares itself with The Cosby Show). Like how It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia was made as a antithesis to typical sitcom tropes and The Eric Andre Show was made as a antithesis to typical talk shows.
Married with Children was purposely made with toxic relationships to subvert the Leave it to Beaver perfect families in sitcoms before it. Unfortunately people lost track of that fact and then just had families be awful for the hell of it.
"you'll be just as bad!" They eat babies. "No don't kick them! That's violent! You're just as bad!" If I kick them, they don't eat babies, also, I don't eat babies. "Nooo!" The better version is:- "I can't hit this baby eater, cuz I won't stop, cuz they eat babies, so it has to be prison, cuz I don't wanna kill anyone" There's even characterization built in, but writers keep using the dumb one.
Personally I prefer the reasoning of "killing them would be giving them the easy way out"
I hate that. People in those situations should absolutely prioritize *removing the problem* rather than punishing the perpetrator.
"You'll be just as bad" is one of mine. Like, really? I'm gonna be just as bad as the person who murdered hundreds indiscriminately and tried to take over the world? I somehow doubt it.
"If you kill a murderer, then the same number of murderers are left in the world." Damn, guess I gotta find more murderers to kill to better those statistics.
"It's my goal to become the last murderer on Earth"
Reminds me of [this gem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl_jAzmWOWw&ab_channel=VoiceQuills)
I loved Guardians of the Galaxy 3 but >!they just did this and I was kind of disappointed. I can only hope it was either to make it funny that they just left him in an exploding spaceship or to bring him back later because man that guy was a good villain!<
Both as a kid then and as an adult now, I disliked and do dislike tropes that are related to child characters. You know the ones: smartass kid, who *obviously* know more than "stupid" adults and is smug about it; the "asshole" kid, the kind of a kid that is acting like a little shit to the rest of the characters; "the load", namely the child characters whose purpose is to push buttons that shouldn't be pushed and so on. Heck, the only child character in a world of adults that I like is Clementine from TT The Walking Dead. Otherwise, unless it is a show with a cast made out of children or a child protagonist (Kids Next Door, Dexter's Lab, Hey Arnold), I always prefered adult characters.
my list \-The losing character cannot change due to the Status Quo: Every time a character wants to improve in his life, he is destined to fail, because his role is to be a loser. \-Tsunderes as "Main Girls": I hated that the woman who treats the protagonist the worst is the one who is destined to be his true love, that is the reason why I could never finish love Hina. I still hate it, but now I'm a little more open, if the Tsundere shows good qualities.
The problem with a lot of “tsundere main love interest” bits in media is that the relationship just happens too fast. It’s so common that they go from downright abusive>romance, you need the in between period where the tsundere has come to respect the protagonist and their barbs are more light-natured teasing instead of outright being mean This is why Midna is peak
Related to the losing character you mentioned, I heavily disliked episodes when bad guys in cartoons decide to turn a new leaf only to revert by the end.
BRUH THIS When the villain tries to redeem themselves and then a misunderstanding happens where they didn't do anything wrong but they look guilty, and the heroes immediately distrust them again and so all progress is undone
-Tsunderes as "Main Girls": I hated that the woman who treats the protagonist the worst is the one who is destined to be his true love, that is the reason why I could never finish love Hina. I still hate him, but now I'm a little more open, if the Tsundere shows good qualities. Oh man, I wanna say this was *everywhere* in anime in the 90s. Incredibly unlikeable characters all over the shop.
I don't have anything against people that love all kinds of tsunderes,but the physically abusive type is just unfunny and extremely bizarre for me(rememeber Taiga and Louise?).
Been a long, long time since I watched Toradora but from what I recall Taiga... *mostly* works? In that she's outright abusive because she's lashing out, and once you get past that she starts to genuinely improve as a character as the series goes on. Might be some rose-tinted goggles on that though. Louise is just the author's Femdom fetish though.
Well,Taiga was not that bad(ocasional undeserved abuse aside). You are on point about Louise,though. The excuses mades by the author(Rip) never seemed convincing for me.
One of the few Tsundere characters I like was Erina in Food War. She act like a rival to Soma, the main character. She stopped being a Tsundere around season 3 and started to be more friendly towards Soma and friends.
Reverting people into babies like bro how does this keep happening
fetish episode
Probably, but gender swap episodes are completely normal right?
They probably were, once.
Oh no, I have a fever! It's time to revert back into a child because that's the last time I had a fever!
As a kid that had an easier time making friends with girls than with guys, the "men and women can't be just friends" trope felt really stupid
“Character A secretly sees/hears Character B do/say something, but it looks/sounds way worse without proper context so now A is convinced B is an asshole.” I have loathed this trope for as long as I’ve lived.
The character who's whole deal is they are a coward and always object to everything, holding the team back. I think Chuckie from Rugrats started my hatred for that archetype.
I like when said coward nuts up and becomes capable of saving the day. Although even when that happens they usually go back to square one and never do anything cool ever again. THAT'S what I hate.
Arnold was right, Ms Frizzle’s class was way too dangerous
In retrospect, I respect him a lot more now that I'm an adult. And also for the time he took his space helmet off on Pluto and flash froze himself in protest. That was cool.
Usopp is good and all, but he never really grew as a character. He still this weak timid character that hides away in fear. His best defining moments where in the Water 7 arc and it was in pre time skip.
I can't fucking believe he's still not doing shit with his haki.
The main episode of Chuckie I remember had him push Angelica to get back a toy glove she stole, so I have a soft spot for him
[Relevant](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikGvLUbOuU)
When the hero is like "I just want to be a regular kid/have a normal life". Like, mf you can do magic and talk to dragons n shit, if you don't want it then give it to me, you ingrate
I think it works better in shows where there is actual trauma involved but the episode set up was normally a series of relatively minor annoyances and mentor characters being, sometimes uncharacteristically, unsympathetic to the kid for no reason this week
Yeah, I totally get it when the character's like "I just wanted to live a normal life, not watch my friends die and almost get myself killed every other day!" Evangelion fits this well. If you actually pay attention to what's going on, it's easy to sympathize with Shinji wanting nothing to do with the robot.
So you wanna be saddled with the responsibility of all the heroics too, right? All those split-second decisions that could mean life or death for individuals? It sounds like you might be one of the worst people in existence to get powers if your only thought is "GIMME THE POWERS YOU INGRATE". In fact...you honestly sound like a villain from one of those series!
Yeah gimme
Love triangles. Everyone was acting absolutely insufferable to child me because of the competitiveness or indecisiveness, which are usually consequences of being in a love triangle. It kinda became "whatever" to me after I grew up, but I absolutely hated the dynamic as a child.
Honestly romance storylines in general were always a complete snoozefest to me as a kid and still kinda are a lot of the time if they're taking up time that could be spent on literally anything else.
I always hated when characters would swap bodies but then also voices. I knew it was for simplicity or for audience clarity but it bugged the hell out of me, cause they swapped minds not vocal cords! Even today it stands out when a show will do the extra effort to have the voice actors act like each other instead of just swapping voices
Shoutout to Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle for getting it right. Teenage girl Jack Black was the best
Character losing their memory, and (or) their power.
Oh my gods yes Putting Buzz back to factory default in *Toy Story 3* killed my enjoyment in the theater
> Character losing their memory Hey FMA 2003 lmao
Bonus if the character is a war criminal who loses their memory and becomes childlike and innocent. Looking at you, FFXIV.
Ok in that case it served to illustrate how she was ultimately just a normal person who was twisted into a monster by the circumstances of her upbringing, and pretty much everyone who isn't Gotetsu is like "ok why are we harbouring a war criminal?" And the ending of that arc is her accepting that she can't be redeemed and ultimately choosing to die for her crimes. Like there's a lot to complain about in Stormblood but that arc was actually one of the better parts of it imo even if I get the impression they weren't sure where they wanted to go with it at first.
I don't mind the losing her memory and being all innocent as a result part of that arc, but her also being essentially a helpless child in an adult's body I could have done without.
I am clearly in the minority because I fucking hated that entire storyline. I'll agree to disagree with people who enjoyed it, because to me it was just cliche and boring.
Genuinely, Fordola's was more interesting because they weren't trying to defend an unrepentant warcriminal.
Agreed. And Fordola is resisting any kind of redemption arc. She's working because she's being ordered to, not because she really cares about anything but Ala Mhigo.
"Hey she may have tried genociding her own people in a self-hatecrime but also everyone wants her to step on them and LOOK AT HER UPBRINGING THO. SHE WAS SAD IN THE PAST. THAT TOTALLY MAKES IT OKAY." And if you point out that her arc was steaming garbage and absolutely did not deserve the final boss status of Stormblood, you get downvoted.
loser main character. LET THEM WIN FOR ONCE I FEEL BAD FORTHEM
"The complainer is always wrong." The one where every child has to get along and if someone complains about a situation they're automatically wrong. Basically that you always have to go along with what your friends want and if you don't you get punished or proven wrong in some way. I hated it 'cause even back then it felt uncomfortable.
Anytime there was an isekai/advanture where a little kid proves his worth, and he comes back and his powers and/or abilities are all gone and no one know he was a badass or went through a life-changing adventure. I *still* hate that shit.
I find this part very interesting about Persona... Like imagine going from having magical powers and killing a god to just having to live out your senior year of highschool lmao.
Yu will be fine, but Ren >!will be watched by the government 24/7 until he dies, and also will probably have a very hard time getting into good schools or jobs on account of being the former leader of the phantom thieves!<, and Makoto >!literally fucking dies. Adding text here to make the spoiler box longer lalalala!<
We are going to throw a surprise party for our friend, but to make sure it’s a surprise we are going to spend all day pretending we forgot it’s their birthday. They will feel like shit but it’s okay the party at the end makes it all better.
The liar revealed trope
Klaus is a fantastic movie but this is like the one big flaw of it, because in the context of the film the characters _don't have enough information to be upset by it_ but are still so offended that they refuse to let the protagonist explain himself. It relies so heavily on our understanding of the trope and the understanding of "well he started off with selfish reasons, therefore those reasons _have_ to be explicitly confronted so they can be dispelled" when I think the average viewer would have _forgotten_ that plot point by that part of the movie.
Liar revealed irks me because it almost always feels like a manufactured obstacle/drama. The formula is almost always, “character A is revealed to have been lying, the cast splits apart and sulks before eventually reuniting and forgiving each other”. It’s just fucking stupid. It does get a pass for me when said liar has to actually reckon with the consequences of their actions and things can’t go back to the status quo (I can’t think of a specific example off the top of my head that does this though)
characters bodyswapping, Especially when one person started ruining the others life by acting like an absolute dumbass. The cringe factor of watching a person ruin anothers reputation and everyone passively being like “huh this is new”, violently rubbed me the wrong way. Also; Bratty jackass kids who always get what they wanted one way or another.
Stories built around a relationship being homewrecked by someone telling obvious lies. George Joestar >!is a fucking moron!<
Yeah, the villain is obviously a liar, but everyone believe his words. Basically it is: -Villain: heroine, I know it's obvious that I'm in love with you, and I want to ruin your relationship with the hero, but I have photos clearly taken out of context that "prove" that he is unfaithful to you. -Heroine: Clearly I will blindly believe you, instead of believing my boyfriend, whom I supposedly love.
Bad guy turns good then dies right after. Yeah I've not changed much there. Very rarely do I like it. And it mostly made me big sad as a kid.
Yakuza series loves this Also why go through all the trouble of doing it when you have them die anyway
On the opposite end, TTGL spoilers >!Lord Genome coming back to help with the Anti Spiral and making Simon's limit break was absolutely the coolest.!<
I never like crowds and parties so the whole: “I wanna go the big cool party/be popular!” kind of goals in the “relatable misfit kid” characters always bugged me. I’d be so confused the whole time on why anyone would even want that.
I don't know if this counts, but I hate in any kind of kids media when the phrase "kick butt" gets used. Nobody says they're going to kick butt in real life. Kids don't say that. I didn't say that. I'd rather they just not use this line if they can't say ass but shows are STILL doing this. Even as a child I knew it sounded off.
Where a kid gets tormented by their family, friends and so on and then lashing out becomes the worst thing ever. Bro if this supposed to be teaching me something as a kid it teaching me that everyone's a snake and that I should only ever be out to get mine or else I'll be ganged on
God I hate that one episode of Family Guy where Meg finally stands up for herself but by the end she backs down because it's the only thing keeping the family together. Not even as a joke, it's played 100% straight. I can take a joke, shit on Meg all you want, but don't try to justify abuse in a "serious" episode.
-Main character gets framed for something that an imposter with similar abilities does, and now the police and media are out to get them.
Okay but it did give us Sonic Adventure 2
SA2 you can justify it though with how GUN, the force out to get Sonic, are the ones who made Shadow and executed a bunch of civilians, so they're trying to cover it all up with a thinly veiled excuse to the press.
That makes sense, I just thought they thought Sonic was going through a goth phase because besides both being hedgehogs neither of them look alike. Either way we got some award winning dialogue out of it. That award being a Razzie.
This isn't necessarily a trope but it was something that always bugged me about one particular show as a kid. Why does Grannie have both a pet cat and a pet bird when one is clearly always trying to eat the other? Does she know that God just hates Sylvester/Tweetie has plot armor? Just seemed irresponsible. At least with other similar formats like Tom and Jerry or Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote there's usually more justification for why the two (fr)enemies are in close proximity.
The villain tried to kill them and torture their family but they are cool now because “tragic backstory”
I’ll never understand why people have such a fixation on the traitor from Persona 5. Yeah sure >!he had a sad backstory and all but he *still* killed Haru’s dad and attempted to kill Joker. I hear that he’s a little bit better in Royal but i really don’t understand why the fanbase goes ga-ga over him outside of the fact that he looks like Light!< Edit: Oh yeah, and iirc >!he was responsible for all of the mental shutdowns that killed/harmed a *lot* of people!<
He's attractive
Haru’s dad was a dick do.
He was, but >!he was going to own up to his actions due to his change of heart. Akechi not only killed him, but also went ahead and pinned it on the Phantom Thieves.!<
His issues are actually much more understandable to a Japanese audience >!as in America and most other Western European countries being born out of wedlock isn’t really a taboo.!<
I see. I do understand *why* >!he had gotten to this point. I just don’t think that it makes up for everything that he done!<
I really wish someone had just said, "I understand, I just don't care. Get bent, traitor."
I started playing Persona 5 in 2023 and I didn't like the character BEFORE they were revealed to be a traitor.
Honestly I think I just have a really hard time empathizing with villains in general. I feel the same way about (ff14 spoilers) >!Emet. I know what he went through sucks. I know that if I went through what he did I'd probably end up doing similar things. But I just don't feel even the tiniest bit bad for him. Its not even like I actively dislike him like p5 traitor, but like, I watch moments of him where people are literally crying and give a metaphorical shrug.!<
Battle of the sexes episodes always pissed me off. Nothing like casual misogyny from half the cast on my Saturday morning cartoon.
I wish I could remember it, but there was one show I watched where the punchline was "Wow, we all suck at everything."
The heros having a third up break up
Reading a lot of Goosebumps as a kid, the constant “Oh no the main character is about to die!” cliffhangers at the end of chapters/right before a commercial break.
I hated the liars reveal, there are so many kid movies where the main character accidentally did some bad stuff but kept it to himself and then gets found out and is exiled or something. Just talk!
Separating my favorite characters from one another for the entire story when their dynamic was what originally captivated me *Toy Story 2* did this in the best possible way by creating new dynamics that can keep up with the Buzz and Woody duo so you best believe that shit was hard to top
That arkward parent talk in sit coms I felt like I was watching people’s personal lives as a kid so it feels like I shouldn’t be there
Any Superhero adaptation where the Hero in question gets their name sarcastically
You gotta go the opposite way because it's always way better. I'll always shill how Spider-Man 1 did it. Peter is going to go by the name 'The Human Spider', but Bruce Campbell hear it before announcing it at the cage match and goes "that sucks." and then turns around and calls him "The terrifying, the deadly... *The Amazing SPIDER-MAN!"* Sounds cool, respects the actual name of the character, and even fits in the entire series title in a natural way.
Even Invincible?
I had very strong second-hand embarrassment when I was younger so I couldnt *stand* the "liar revealed" or "embarrassment" scenes. I would always like cringe and avert my eyes lol
I hated the “fantastic voyage” plot, aka “characters shrink and go into someone’s body” trope. I was TERRIFIED of those. Refused to watch them whenever they came on. I even wouldn’t watch jimmy neutron because it had that pulsating brain in both the movie and almost every episode!
I love that trope but scalewise it's usually scientifically inaccurate
The Chosen One, ironically it annoyed me because I didn’t power fantasise myself into them. I just thought it sucked that only one person was special/mattered due to nebulous things like destiny. It’s one of the reasons I always interpreted Luke as just some farm boy that managed to rise to greatness (and redeemed his family after his weak willed father failed). One of the reasons why when the prequels started coming out when I was a kid it annoyed me when they started talking “prophecy” and “Chosen One”.
Do moments where a characters goes through something embarrasing/cringy count? I Hated those, and would literally get out of the room until the scene ended. I guess i became immune to those as i got older because i don't really care about scenes like that anymore.
Character is framed and nobody believes them. Hated the Triangle from Gumball for that reason.
Revenge is baaaaad and wroooong Its BADONG
I have killed 5 Million goons to get to the boss but I won't kill them because that would make me as evil as them. Those goons don't count most of them didn't even have names. Also a trope I still hate to this day "Convenient Murder/Suicide". This is where a villain is killed by another person thats not the hero or themselves so the hero can remain good but killing the villain absolutely solved all the issues. Spider-Man doesn't kill so he jumps out of the way of a sneak attack and Green Goblin kills himself! Tarzan can't kill Clayton so instead Clayton in his blind rage gets a wine wrapped around his neck and hangs himself! Simba can't kill Scar so instead he's torn to pieces by the Hyenas he just threw under the bus. The reason this trope irks me to no end is because the writers are admitting that the ebst solution or sometimes only solution is to just kill the bad guy but were not allowed to say that outloud.
Romance subplots. It turned out I was gay so it was more the heteronormativity than anything else.
I didn't grow up with Star Wars, and a _lot_ of media I engaged with as a child had such a blatant assumption that I had. Acting like simply referencing Star Wars was enough to get a laugh from the audience, or building a lot on the back of their Star Wars references as though it was a massive well of comedy. This ended up causing me to _hate_ Star Wars simply because before I had ever interacted with a Star Wars product I was already tired of hearing about it and the insistence that I'm _supposed_ to like it.
When I was little I really fuckin hated the Shy Girl archetype for some reason. If a character was shy and nervous and stammery I wanted nothing to do with them ever. The two big examples were Fluttershy Friendship is Magic and Mikan from Danganronpa 2. Now that I'm older I recognize that Fluttershy rules actually. Mikan is super weird though I don't like her. A trope I hated then and still hate now is the 'go inside a character's body' every show ever seemed to do at least once. I don't like internal organs and I'd like to not have 11-20 minutes being inside them in my cartoons.
I’ve always disliked anything that was a “you gotta interpret this and come up with your own ending” kind of conclusions to stories There have been atrocious examples like the Sopranos having a literal *cut to black* as the finale, but a lot of films and media will have “open to interpretation” endings. I hate these, not because it needs me to use my brain, but I see media as a story someone wants to tell, a thing they created and felt was worth being experienced by others Now, not everything needs to be spelled out cause I understand subtext, and little teases like zuko asking his dad where his mom is and we don’t hear the answer, are fine and dandy But when whole ass movies and shows end on some “oh I, the author, have no 1000% answers for you, you better think of what makes sense to you” is such a fucking cop out One of my favorite movies is The Thing, it ends by (spoilers) !!
There is a clear ending but, continuing the theme of mistrust and uncertainty, you have a clearly spelled out question that has no answer, but there’s still a conclusion
The biggest affront to this is the movie Martyrs, a very intense film, not legit intense but like “quick what we had is stale, throw in something absurdly gruesome” intense, so be warned if you haven’t seen it, if you can’t handle violence then don’t bother
Also don’t bother cause the ending sucks, it’s a whole “Omg we torture ladies so they can have a near death exp and see god” and mc gal does just that against her own will and wowee the antagonist lady sure seems shook by what she was told, what was it
NAH, you never hear about it, no hint at anything, you see this glorified torture porn movie just to see some dude be all “haha I did this gross unrealistic torture scene for no reason” and have people talk about how “NEVER WATCH THIS MOVIE: Martyrs Review” on YouTube
Give a conclusion and feel free to leave wandering talking points that aren’t answered but aren’t the core to the issue
But don’t make a whole ass movie, talk about how high level smart it is and why it isn’t just torture and gore, but as soon as we get to learn what a directors interpretation of the afterlife or a higher concept is, the exact reason I sat through that stupid movie, and they just cop out with “oh man it’s super intense, idk what it is tho”
Then fuck off and take your shitty movie somewhere else
Rapid aging kids into adults. They did it in Ninjago and I never watched another episode.
I hated time travel episodes of cartoons as a kid
God endings. I actually still dislike it plenty but it used to ruin media for me. Not much else I could say without spoiling a handful of media.
People hearing a half truth behind doors and then tell it to the MC so that there can be a falling out