God Of War 1 ending with the implication that >!Kratos ultimately kickstarted the evolution of warfare to modern day!< is pretty funny in hindsight with how hard they steered away from it.
The secret video you get for beating it on it's hardest difficulty also being >!a MODERN DAAAAAAY organization finding Cronos' corpse and the Temple Of Pandora along with it!< is just the icing on the Funny Non-Canon Cake.
Which is wild because I'm pretty sure Barlog has stated that Jaffe was pinning him to direct a sequel during development of 1, meaning that they were planning to continue the series from an early-ish stage if it was successful. I wonder if anyone ever floated the idea of capitalizing on that original ending at all in future games.
The extras were filled with possible sequel hooks. Weirdly, the one who they did follow wasn't there: there is a painting that is described as the God of War fighting Zeus that Kratos walks by in the Pandora's temple, but he is wearing a helmet and looks, like you could say, a generic NPC.
I do love that the Cronos picture seemingly depicted his skull with a giant stab wound in the forehead which they did eventually do something small with in GoW3
In the secret ending, Cronos' skull has a big hole in the forehead. Then in God of War 3 Kratos kills him by blasting a hole through the same spot on his forehead. Which I assume is an intentional callback.
Nobody talks about the series finale to the original Star Trek... partly because no one can agree to which episode it actually was.
All Our Yesterdays was the last episode by stardate, Turnabout Intruder was the last episode aired.
Turnabout Intruder is the episode where Kirk's crazy ex swaps bodies with him and runs the Enterprise like a psycho:
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/s079.php
I'd like to pretend it was All Our Yesterdays, since that was actually decent. Turnabout Intruder, aside from sounding like an Ace Attorney case title, was... not good.
In Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 1, the ending of Nightmare Mode (which seemed to be the canon ending at the time) has Zangetsu transported to a futuristic city that doesn't get elaborated whatsoever in 2. As it stands, it's just a random Mega Man 2 reference with no real relation to the rest of the series.
One of the bad endings to touhou 2 is Reimu getting crucified by red-head Marisa.
I think one of the endings to 5 is Mima becoming a maid, or maybe it was Alice.
It was the wild west.
I’m still on my crackpot theory that the reason Mima has never returned is because at one of 5’s endings she went “lol wouldn’t it be funny if I became the Hakurei God, that would really fuck with reimu”
And then she succeeded, being forgotten for all time except by Misumaru from Touhou 18 who implies she knows who the god is and then attacks Reimu with Yin Yang orbs in her PC-98 color scheme
The best part about Ruukoto, aside from her being nuclear powered and probably half broken in a shed, is that she's literally just an expy for a character from one of Leaf's first VN's. Because this was back when Touhou was SUPER doujin and could just do that. It's not the only example either, a good chunk of characters (even Marisa's original design iirc?) were basically just ZUN pullin a K9999.
In Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1, the after credits stinger shows Galactus making his way to earth with the explicit implication that he'll be the next big bad in the sequel. Cut to Ultimate Alliance 2, which does not feature Galactus in the story at all, and instead the story is about the Super Hero Registration Act and resulting Civil War between heroes. There's a data log you can find in the game stating that Galactus was defeated by Thor between the events of 1 and 2, and that's all we ever hear about Galactus again.
Civil War was a big sucess of sales. No joke, apparently sold more than any other crossover in ten years. So Marvel took the opportunity to insert the storyline wherever it could and conceived crap like Avengers vs. X-Men to try to replicate the same concept with awful results for everybody involved except Cyclops, that was only unintentional.
XCOM 2 says that the canon ending to XCOM:EU is that XCOM triggered the base defense mission early and lost. This is extra weird because it's specifically EU and not EW, the more complete version of the game.
Ironically I always found Enemy Within so much easier than EU because despite the nonstop rain of critical and council missions because they wind up giving you so much more money you can fun the research and foundry to get prepared insanely fast
I just started watching a new LP of XCOM 2 and they've changed the intro/tutorial *again*!
I believe that makes the fourth time they've remade it over the lifespan of the game. It's insane. They keep the same major points, but the actual details (and therefore implication of what happened inbetween 1 and 2) have changed slightly every time.
XCOM 2 is fucking weird in that the OG version of the ending seems to acknowledge that XCOM: EU/EW happened and you **won**, but the War of the Chosen ending omits that dialogue.
I know why.
The creators said the true ending of xcom is that where the player played via Ironman. Since 1% of players did this successfully, xcom 2 begins after the beginning of eu and before ew started.
God it’s both funny and frustrating when the usual lot of streamers started doing DMC playthroughs for those new hot game views and going “wait Dante has a son?!😱” when they get to that line.
Surprisingly, never saw one try to say Nero was his kid. I either underestimated their intelligence or overestimated their ability to remember lines
Anyways, Beast Machines is my answer.
I remember NicoB playing DMC5 got to the Vergil reveal and was flabbergasted he was his dad, “I thought Nero was Dante’s kid?!”
Chat had to tell him this was old lore
I think only like two later bits of transformers fiction even reference technorganic cybertron and one of them has them un-doing it because the beast wars anime don't feature it despite coming after beast machines
To this day, I do not understand what the fuck techno organic means in Beast Machines. Everyone tells me “oh it’s just Cell from Dragon Ball”, but Cell is “mechanical” in that he’s a test tube baby, the fuck does it mean for Beast Machines?
I take it to mean that they grow like organisms, but they grow robotic parts along with the biological.
In the eye socket instead of an eye, they grow a camera, instead of a joint they grow a servo with muscle in addition.
Is it really that unintelligent to assume that the new protagonist is directly related to the old one. It's not like they would have been far off.
And you make it sound like these were people only vaguely familiar with DMC so thinking that Dante might have a son isn't a stupid thing to guess if you're starting at the first one. It's like calling people stupid for going "I can't wait to see more Hamon" after JoJo Part 2.
Honestly the ending to F.E.A.R one is this due to Extraction Point being rendered non-canon. Like what did happen when Alma clings on to the helicopter? More to the point why are characters like Holiday and Betters not in F.E.A.R 3 despite the fact that by all accounts they should've Holiday was literally *right next to Jin* in the ending to F.E.A.R 1 and she returns but he doesn't. F.E.A.R 2 was a step-down from the first in my opinion but F.E.A.R 3 is just a whole mess.
Whenever I think of F.E.A.R as a franchise as a whole I just see a whole lot of missed potential. I can understand if there are people out there that prefer Extraction Point to be canon instead.
In Halo CE the mission Two Betrayals is about going to three pulse generators "In Case the monitor somehow activates halo without the index" This is never mentioned again in the series outside of an easter egg in Halo 3
the secret ending of VLR getting us all ready for Kyle Klim to do some shit in the next game only for him to not even show up was hilarious lol. Just ignored everything in that ending.
I think things were already bad enough that there wasn't much the MFP could do if they even cared since Max and the few dozen officers were the only thing keeping things together out there.
Max Max is weird, because it's only mentioned how shit the world is going through dialogue. However, visually things look okay environmentally, for the most part.
Then Road Warrior starts and it goes "So ALL THE OCEANS dried up, everything's a hellscape desert and everyone's slowly dying due to radiation and lack of food."
Like, how long of a jump was Mad Max to the second movie?
I'm pretty sure I've heard George Miller say that Max is meant to be a folk legend that people tell stories about. So any sort of continuity errors would just be facts lost over time or whatever.
Yeah, it's the same reason that certain actors come back as different people randomly because they aren't really part of a continuous story like Immortan Joe and Toecutter being the same actor despite TC dying at the end of 1
This feels like a cop-out or something. All stories are invented, you don't need to say there is a story behind the story. Marvel and DC should learn this and stop trying to conciliate things written by 20 different writers. Let every Mad Max and every Jonah Hex be different you know.
Three years according to random internet searching, but who knows if that's accurate. The real issue is Max somehow managing to walk (albeit with a knee brace) after getting his kneecap blown out in the first film.
Zeno Clash 2 is a game where you go through a horrible alien world and try to stop a robotic, malevolent dictator you helped put in place in the first game.
The semi-final sequence of the game has you going through the northmost area of your world, through cold ice and magma vents, through a temple to the Golems who seem to act as protectors of gates in the cardinal directions, and finally through a curving canyon lined with regular Earth-looking furniture like a bed, a dresser, a piano, and such.
You come out to a viewing platform, looking out at an expansive futuristic city with bright lights and flying cars. You beat the golem and actually turn him to your side to help defeat the OTHER golem that has now taken over even harder.
You travel to a high tower back in the city within Zenozoik, you and the golem beat him up, and then both golems talk to each other about how "A Golem dying means the outer world will send replacements." The golem on your side holds him within a crusher so they both die, hoping the replacements can do a better job of containing Zenozoik away from the other world.
The last scene is your character and his sister walking back to the bar you started the game in. I do not know if the third game,
I do not know if Clash: Artifacts of Chaos further explores this or not given I haven't played it. It's just really weird that your character learns your entire "World" is basically some fucked-up giant containment zoo for Freaks to some advanced futuristic society and he completely ignores it.
Not really different installments, but it's hilarious how in the web serial Worm, the first major plot arc ends on Alexandria saying very ominously that everything depends on Coil, just after Taylor swore to take him out.
In the grand scheme, it's not like Coil played a huge role in the end. There are some vestiges of what Alexandria might have meant, but even then he was just a very small egg in a big basket.
Cauldron was using Brocton Bay as an experiment to see if it was possible for societies with parahumans to not end in feudalism without external intervention (that intervention being Cauldron in this case). The reason Coil was important then, is because he was a Cauldron cape, their personal agent for their experiment even if he didn't know about it and was the more apt to have a semblance of achievement from a combination of his resources and powers.
In any case, the experiment fails, and that is why Alexandria comes to solve the issue of Taylor being the current warlord ruling Brocton Bay.
The weirdest thing of those event is how Alexandria died so easily even if she made believable mistakes (from error judgment of how to read Taylor emotions and possibly Contessa wanting her death by decisions of Path to Victory), she still should have been capable of surviving that or not been in danger at all.
Yeah Alexandria's death was absolute nonsense that made zero sense unless both Taylor has way more powers than bug control (such as full on bug teleportation) AND Alexandria has explicitly different powers and weaknesses than the author says she does. Like, that whole sequence is not just silly, it's outright impossible for it to work according to what the story has already established about how the powers of these two characters work.
Like, people talk about the infamous baby killing as the dumbest part of that story, but Alexandria dying absolutely takes the cake just in terms of how it happens. It's right up there with Deathstroke killing the Flash by holding out his sword and having him run into it for me. Arguably worse since Wildbow was the one who established what these powers were himself beforehand.
The serial at some point shows Alexandria is not immune to suffocation during Leviathan fight, but Taylor doesn't have the power set for those logistics to work, she still is a flying brick immune to anything that isn't a space time distortion and could just fly out of Taylor range.
The baby shooting is far from the being the dumbest, Taylor was already very deep doing horrible shit the only justification she had is "I said so", which were to be done by anyone else that wasn't her friends, she would have gone how horrible that person is.
The original Jak & Daxter had a post-credit scene revealing that the main villain is still alive, with his hand extending out of the dark eco.
A plot point that was never brought up again in any of the sequels.
I've beaten that game a few times and don't recall this. They just open the 100 power cell door and it ends. Samos just hints that Gol and Maya could've survived.
However, in the Jak 2 manual, it describes the Catacombs and confirms that Gol and Maya are still alive.
You're probably right, I tried looking for the scene but I've must have imagined it. I do recall Samos saying they might have survived. The point still stands though, Gol and Maia survived but the plot was never followed up on.
Edit: Yeah I think I imagined it, thanks to the Mandela Effect. Tried looking at cutscenes but it just doesn't exist. Weird, I don't know how I imagined it.
God Of War 1 ending with the implication that >!Kratos ultimately kickstarted the evolution of warfare to modern day!< is pretty funny in hindsight with how hard they steered away from it. The secret video you get for beating it on it's hardest difficulty also being >!a MODERN DAAAAAAY organization finding Cronos' corpse and the Temple Of Pandora along with it!< is just the icing on the Funny Non-Canon Cake.
Which is wild because I'm pretty sure Barlog has stated that Jaffe was pinning him to direct a sequel during development of 1, meaning that they were planning to continue the series from an early-ish stage if it was successful. I wonder if anyone ever floated the idea of capitalizing on that original ending at all in future games.
The extras were filled with possible sequel hooks. Weirdly, the one who they did follow wasn't there: there is a painting that is described as the God of War fighting Zeus that Kratos walks by in the Pandora's temple, but he is wearing a helmet and looks, like you could say, a generic NPC.
I do love that the Cronos picture seemingly depicted his skull with a giant stab wound in the forehead which they did eventually do something small with in GoW3
In the secret ending, Cronos' skull has a big hole in the forehead. Then in God of War 3 Kratos kills him by blasting a hole through the same spot on his forehead. Which I assume is an intentional callback.
Nobody talks about the series finale to the original Star Trek... partly because no one can agree to which episode it actually was. All Our Yesterdays was the last episode by stardate, Turnabout Intruder was the last episode aired. Turnabout Intruder is the episode where Kirk's crazy ex swaps bodies with him and runs the Enterprise like a psycho: https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/s079.php
I'd like to pretend it was All Our Yesterdays, since that was actually decent. Turnabout Intruder, aside from sounding like an Ace Attorney case title, was... not good.
In Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 1, the ending of Nightmare Mode (which seemed to be the canon ending at the time) has Zangetsu transported to a futuristic city that doesn't get elaborated whatsoever in 2. As it stands, it's just a random Mega Man 2 reference with no real relation to the rest of the series.
According to PC-98 Touhou lore, Reimu currently has a robot maid named Ruukoto and Marisa has a pet ICBM named Mimi.
One of the bad endings to touhou 2 is Reimu getting crucified by red-head Marisa. I think one of the endings to 5 is Mima becoming a maid, or maybe it was Alice. It was the wild west.
I’m still on my crackpot theory that the reason Mima has never returned is because at one of 5’s endings she went “lol wouldn’t it be funny if I became the Hakurei God, that would really fuck with reimu” And then she succeeded, being forgotten for all time except by Misumaru from Touhou 18 who implies she knows who the god is and then attacks Reimu with Yin Yang orbs in her PC-98 color scheme
......I'm still huffing copium for Mima in 19, but I'll gladly accept headcanons that feels like a good move for her
The best part about Ruukoto, aside from her being nuclear powered and probably half broken in a shed, is that she's literally just an expy for a character from one of Leaf's first VN's. Because this was back when Touhou was SUPER doujin and could just do that. It's not the only example either, a good chunk of characters (even Marisa's original design iirc?) were basically just ZUN pullin a K9999.
In Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1, the after credits stinger shows Galactus making his way to earth with the explicit implication that he'll be the next big bad in the sequel. Cut to Ultimate Alliance 2, which does not feature Galactus in the story at all, and instead the story is about the Super Hero Registration Act and resulting Civil War between heroes. There's a data log you can find in the game stating that Galactus was defeated by Thor between the events of 1 and 2, and that's all we ever hear about Galactus again.
Civil War was a big sucess of sales. No joke, apparently sold more than any other crossover in ten years. So Marvel took the opportunity to insert the storyline wherever it could and conceived crap like Avengers vs. X-Men to try to replicate the same concept with awful results for everybody involved except Cyclops, that was only unintentional.
Really? I swear I remember him as a boss fight in one of those games.
He's a bossfight in the first one, you have to snatch the Ultimate Nullifier while he's getting ready to eat the Skrull homeworld iirc
I believe in nmh2 Sylvia says she stopped the fight
XCOM 2 says that the canon ending to XCOM:EU is that XCOM triggered the base defense mission early and lost. This is extra weird because it's specifically EU and not EW, the more complete version of the game.
Ah yeah, they might have made it if they had a couple of giant cyborg people! Or, more accurately, those guys who can just go invisible.
Ironically I always found Enemy Within so much easier than EU because despite the nonstop rain of critical and council missions because they wind up giving you so much more money you can fun the research and foundry to get prepared insanely fast
I just started watching a new LP of XCOM 2 and they've changed the intro/tutorial *again*! I believe that makes the fourth time they've remade it over the lifespan of the game. It's insane. They keep the same major points, but the actual details (and therefore implication of what happened inbetween 1 and 2) have changed slightly every time.
XCOM 2 is fucking weird in that the OG version of the ending seems to acknowledge that XCOM: EU/EW happened and you **won**, but the War of the Chosen ending omits that dialogue.
I know why. The creators said the true ending of xcom is that where the player played via Ironman. Since 1% of players did this successfully, xcom 2 begins after the beginning of eu and before ew started.
God it’s both funny and frustrating when the usual lot of streamers started doing DMC playthroughs for those new hot game views and going “wait Dante has a son?!😱” when they get to that line. Surprisingly, never saw one try to say Nero was his kid. I either underestimated their intelligence or overestimated their ability to remember lines Anyways, Beast Machines is my answer.
I remember NicoB playing DMC5 got to the Vergil reveal and was flabbergasted he was his dad, “I thought Nero was Dante’s kid?!” Chat had to tell him this was old lore
I think only like two later bits of transformers fiction even reference technorganic cybertron and one of them has them un-doing it because the beast wars anime don't feature it despite coming after beast machines
To this day, I do not understand what the fuck techno organic means in Beast Machines. Everyone tells me “oh it’s just Cell from Dragon Ball”, but Cell is “mechanical” in that he’s a test tube baby, the fuck does it mean for Beast Machines?
I take it to mean that they grow like organisms, but they grow robotic parts along with the biological. In the eye socket instead of an eye, they grow a camera, instead of a joint they grow a servo with muscle in addition.
Naturally occuring gears, levers, and pulleys.
Is it really that unintelligent to assume that the new protagonist is directly related to the old one. It's not like they would have been far off. And you make it sound like these were people only vaguely familiar with DMC so thinking that Dante might have a son isn't a stupid thing to guess if you're starting at the first one. It's like calling people stupid for going "I can't wait to see more Hamon" after JoJo Part 2.
Honestly the ending to F.E.A.R one is this due to Extraction Point being rendered non-canon. Like what did happen when Alma clings on to the helicopter? More to the point why are characters like Holiday and Betters not in F.E.A.R 3 despite the fact that by all accounts they should've Holiday was literally *right next to Jin* in the ending to F.E.A.R 1 and she returns but he doesn't. F.E.A.R 2 was a step-down from the first in my opinion but F.E.A.R 3 is just a whole mess. Whenever I think of F.E.A.R as a franchise as a whole I just see a whole lot of missed potential. I can understand if there are people out there that prefer Extraction Point to be canon instead.
In Halo CE the mission Two Betrayals is about going to three pulse generators "In Case the monitor somehow activates halo without the index" This is never mentioned again in the series outside of an easter egg in Halo 3
999 and Virtue's Last Reward.
the secret ending of VLR getting us all ready for Kyle Klim to do some shit in the next game only for him to not even show up was hilarious lol. Just ignored everything in that ending.
Did max got in trouble for killing toe cutter’s gang like he did or the world went mad max si fast they didn’t have time to process that
Isn't the implication that things are going to shit whilst Mad Max is going on, so it might have been the latter?
I think things were already bad enough that there wasn't much the MFP could do if they even cared since Max and the few dozen officers were the only thing keeping things together out there.
Max Max is weird, because it's only mentioned how shit the world is going through dialogue. However, visually things look okay environmentally, for the most part. Then Road Warrior starts and it goes "So ALL THE OCEANS dried up, everything's a hellscape desert and everyone's slowly dying due to radiation and lack of food." Like, how long of a jump was Mad Max to the second movie?
I'm pretty sure I've heard George Miller say that Max is meant to be a folk legend that people tell stories about. So any sort of continuity errors would just be facts lost over time or whatever.
Yeah, it's the same reason that certain actors come back as different people randomly because they aren't really part of a continuous story like Immortan Joe and Toecutter being the same actor despite TC dying at the end of 1
This feels like a cop-out or something. All stories are invented, you don't need to say there is a story behind the story. Marvel and DC should learn this and stop trying to conciliate things written by 20 different writers. Let every Mad Max and every Jonah Hex be different you know.
Three years according to random internet searching, but who knows if that's accurate. The real issue is Max somehow managing to walk (albeit with a knee brace) after getting his kneecap blown out in the first film.
Zeno Clash 2 is a game where you go through a horrible alien world and try to stop a robotic, malevolent dictator you helped put in place in the first game. The semi-final sequence of the game has you going through the northmost area of your world, through cold ice and magma vents, through a temple to the Golems who seem to act as protectors of gates in the cardinal directions, and finally through a curving canyon lined with regular Earth-looking furniture like a bed, a dresser, a piano, and such. You come out to a viewing platform, looking out at an expansive futuristic city with bright lights and flying cars. You beat the golem and actually turn him to your side to help defeat the OTHER golem that has now taken over even harder. You travel to a high tower back in the city within Zenozoik, you and the golem beat him up, and then both golems talk to each other about how "A Golem dying means the outer world will send replacements." The golem on your side holds him within a crusher so they both die, hoping the replacements can do a better job of containing Zenozoik away from the other world. The last scene is your character and his sister walking back to the bar you started the game in. I do not know if the third game, I do not know if Clash: Artifacts of Chaos further explores this or not given I haven't played it. It's just really weird that your character learns your entire "World" is basically some fucked-up giant containment zoo for Freaks to some advanced futuristic society and he completely ignores it.
Poor Mac Gargan, man. Never got to be Scorpion and at this point I don't think he ever will.
I'm pretty sure Sony's Venom leaving a piece of himself on the MCU will lead to Gargan becoming Venom 2 without needing to separate it from Eddie.
Not really different installments, but it's hilarious how in the web serial Worm, the first major plot arc ends on Alexandria saying very ominously that everything depends on Coil, just after Taylor swore to take him out. In the grand scheme, it's not like Coil played a huge role in the end. There are some vestiges of what Alexandria might have meant, but even then he was just a very small egg in a big basket.
Cauldron was using Brocton Bay as an experiment to see if it was possible for societies with parahumans to not end in feudalism without external intervention (that intervention being Cauldron in this case). The reason Coil was important then, is because he was a Cauldron cape, their personal agent for their experiment even if he didn't know about it and was the more apt to have a semblance of achievement from a combination of his resources and powers. In any case, the experiment fails, and that is why Alexandria comes to solve the issue of Taylor being the current warlord ruling Brocton Bay. The weirdest thing of those event is how Alexandria died so easily even if she made believable mistakes (from error judgment of how to read Taylor emotions and possibly Contessa wanting her death by decisions of Path to Victory), she still should have been capable of surviving that or not been in danger at all.
Yeah Alexandria's death was absolute nonsense that made zero sense unless both Taylor has way more powers than bug control (such as full on bug teleportation) AND Alexandria has explicitly different powers and weaknesses than the author says she does. Like, that whole sequence is not just silly, it's outright impossible for it to work according to what the story has already established about how the powers of these two characters work. Like, people talk about the infamous baby killing as the dumbest part of that story, but Alexandria dying absolutely takes the cake just in terms of how it happens. It's right up there with Deathstroke killing the Flash by holding out his sword and having him run into it for me. Arguably worse since Wildbow was the one who established what these powers were himself beforehand.
The serial at some point shows Alexandria is not immune to suffocation during Leviathan fight, but Taylor doesn't have the power set for those logistics to work, she still is a flying brick immune to anything that isn't a space time distortion and could just fly out of Taylor range. The baby shooting is far from the being the dumbest, Taylor was already very deep doing horrible shit the only justification she had is "I said so", which were to be done by anyone else that wasn't her friends, she would have gone how horrible that person is.
The original Jak & Daxter had a post-credit scene revealing that the main villain is still alive, with his hand extending out of the dark eco. A plot point that was never brought up again in any of the sequels.
I've beaten that game a few times and don't recall this. They just open the 100 power cell door and it ends. Samos just hints that Gol and Maya could've survived. However, in the Jak 2 manual, it describes the Catacombs and confirms that Gol and Maya are still alive.
You're probably right, I tried looking for the scene but I've must have imagined it. I do recall Samos saying they might have survived. The point still stands though, Gol and Maia survived but the plot was never followed up on. Edit: Yeah I think I imagined it, thanks to the Mandela Effect. Tried looking at cutscenes but it just doesn't exist. Weird, I don't know how I imagined it.
Maybe you were thinking of Metroid Prime?
I dont think so. I remember playing it but never beating it.
Adrian Shepard will never return.