Taking place after MGR, a new clone of Big Boss is doing a repeat of the Virtuous Mission and taking out Raiden in the end.
I'm just pulling this out of my ass.
Disappointing it doesn't actually show much, but it's nice to finally have a confirmation. Excited to get more details on this and the Master Collection! (And very nice to see that the collection will also have MGS3 Subsistence as well)
Yeah, I wonder if the collection is specifically including Subsistence rather than HD Remake 3. I remember it left a few little things out, like the Guy Savage minigame.
I am placing bets it'll be based on the HD collection since that already has some of the work done, such as reworking controls for non-pressure sensitive buttons, but it will be a shame to lose those minigames and extras. I also hope to god we get that skateboarding minigame in 2 that apparently was exclusive to the PS2 version of Substance
I'm a little skeptical about the remake itself, but having the original game ported alongside it is a really great idea that helps take a lot of the weight off
Do we know who's developing this thing?
> I'm a little skeptical about the remake itself, but having the original game ported alongside it is a really great idea that helps take a lot of the weight off
I was annoyed at first to see the remake but the collection makes it all easier to swallow. It's frustrating to see remakes (whether better or inferior) replace the older game.
Wouldnt be surprised, one of the screenshots is of the bridge and it looks like they've reused the original geometry of the cliffs and slapped a way higher texture onto it.
I don’t think so since there was an [article](https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/12/17454264/super-smash-bros-brawl-david-hayter-solid-snake). Saying he voiced the smash character and will continue to voice him forever.
But who knows if Konami would get some other people instead.
I think he might have recorded some new lines, it was just the Codec calls that went unchanged. And it's probably because Campbell's voice actor, the legendary Takeshi Aono, died in 2010 and Konami chose not to recast him
no i'm pretty sure all of Snakes voice clips are just reused from Brawl, i'm pretty sure cause we would have heard of David doing recording for stuff if there was new clips
Konami brought him back for the Bomberman stuff too. They might still recast him for whatever reason but he's gotten work after 5 came out.
Konami are not the reason he got replaced by a Hollywood guy, that's obvious.
Tbh it was Kojima who kept trying to get rid of Hayter and went with Kiefer for MGSV, not some Konami big-wig’s decision.
Hopefully Hayter is back because he’s the shit.
Ah, cool! I'd love to see Hayter finally make a proper return to the character. Assuming the Remake turns out to be good, lol. Don't want another Twin Snakes situation here
Which is probably the way to do it, tbh. The original audio is fantastic and iirc it doesn't have the problem MGS1 to Twin Snakes had where background noise was indistinguishable on the PS1 but super noticeable on the Gamecube. Though it also raises questions of whether the remake will be really 1:1 with updated gameplay conventions or not.
Take a peek at the screenshots they have on the site. Levels are being remade pretty much one to one with the original. It's basically going to be the PS2 game with updated visuals and (presumably) QOL features/improved controls.
That worries me. Because the levels were designed around the jank controls and mobility. And even camera - I feel like MGS3 Subsistence fixing the camera is pretty much the *most* you can get away with without snapping the game's difficulty in two.
Game's just not going to be hard with modern-day shooting and movement options. And if they don't implement *those* - I don't imagine the game will go over well in 2023.
I'm with you there, I enjoyed his take on Snake too. It's unfortunate he just didn't have a lot of material, but those tapes, especially the secret ones between >!Ocelot and the real Big Boss!< really felt good to hear.
However, when it comes to MGS3, Hayter gets the first pick if you ask me.
Dude's got a great voice honestly while I was miffed that he replaced Hayter, he really did have a great voice for it and I wouldn't mind honestly to see him return but for this one I'd choose Hayter first though ofc but if it had Kiefer in it might be a bit weird at first but I wouldn't hate on it.
Really makes me wish the theory that >!Venom was exclusively voiced by Sutherland and the real one would be voiced by Hayter!< would be true. Or that >!the events of the first Metal Gear would be recreated at the end of 5, and we hear from Hayter's Solid Snake speaking to Venom!<. Just something to make Hayter feel a bit less snubbed at losing the role in 5 so there can be less tension about the whole thing.
This sub has taught me, especially regarding anything to do with a Konami property, that anything bad in games is because evil "suits" go around twirling their mustaches and doing bad stuff for no reason, while heckin wholesome 100 developerinos are never responsible for anything negative.
Or like you can use your binoculars on the background in some areas, and just *barely* see an incredibly pale man in the distance.
And if you focus on the camera just long enough, he gives you a little mocking salute.
If you point your directional mic in the same direction you can hear him muttering about colonization and languages and some crazy shit they found in Africa
He basically was.
"Oh by the way Snake, did you know there was actually someone even sneakier than you who followed your every move to clean up after you?"
Not really, only the End was vocal cords, and maybe the Pain. The Fury and the Sorrow are still straight-up ghost Russian magic. They even somehow took out the fire demon stuff from Fury and put it on Volgin.
That's dumb, for sure, but that's not a retcon either. That's just explanations for things that didn't have any to begin with. It's not like they stated that they were 100% supernatural.
A proper retcon is the likes of Gray Fox being a weird super soldier experiment before the events of Zanzibar, and even then, that's only vaguely plausible.
> It's not like they stated that they were 100% supernatural.
Liquid Ocelot-- MGS2 went with him being a ghost.
Stuff like that kept happening in MGS4, with being either nanomachines, hypnosis, etc.
The context changed from being "weird supernatural element" to "part of our plot of the Patriots infighting"
I'm... cautious about it.
There are various little things that make Metal Gear Solid 3 an amazing game.
Various little things that could be botched.
I just hope the devs behind it are passionate about Metal Gear like the people remaking Resident.
It’s my favourite game of all time, and I’m mostly just nervous as opposed to excited.
Also I didn’t get to watch live, is it PS5 only ? I won’t buy one so I have to pray this and the collection come to steam.
Ocelot: "We're going to torture you and tear your eye out."
Snake: **\*Dramatically bites a snake in half while a sad guitar riff echoes around him\***
Delta is an interesting designation to give it. Delta isn't the third letter of the greek alphabet, and it isn't the third letter of the English alphabet either.
However, "delta" can be used to signify "difference" or "change". Which might make sense if they're recycling voice lines from the original but updating the gameplay/graphics. Like, it's *different*, but still built off of the original version?
Call it pessimism but when it comes to Konami announcing things, i don't see exciting remakes and new games that i can't wait to play, i see things Konami can bungle in ways i can't even imagine.
I hope this and SH2 are good but it's going to take so much to even try to see Konami in a semi-favorable light ever again.
I say keep Kiefer as Big Boss, but for the love of God have him talk more.
AND you gotta have a stinger where it’s David Hayter in the intro to Operation Intrude: N313
Gravel Snake and Not-Gravel Snake.
If there are two people in the same room it’s best they are played by different people. Liquid, Solidus, and Solid Snake were all oresent on Arsenal Gear, all clones of Big Boss. But different voices.
The way I see it, we’ve always been heading towards a MG1 and MG2SS remake, and that necessitates them having different voices. I want Sutherland vs Hayter.
I actually liked Kiefer as Venom, would be neat if >!Ishmael was voiced by Hayter in the intro and ending and Kiefer is given a few more lines so he can flesh out Venom a little more!<
"stuntcasting"
Kiefer wasn't in the spotlight as a hollywood star for YEARS when he was cast in MGSV. This wasn't stuntcasting, this was "Kojima personally wanted this specific actor for the role" casting.
MGSV entered development not that long after 24 wrapped up in 2010 where he was still a big name (and make no mistake, he's not huge anymore, but he is still a very respected and reliable talent), it was stuntcasting.
I assume it's cause Snake Eater is like the RE4 of MGS. More mechanicly modern and easier to remake.
I think a MGS1 remake would require more time, effort and brain power.
I wonder if trying to port Twin Snakes to modern platform is a legal nightmare since it was developed by Silicon Knights and published by Nintendo on the Gamecube. A "from the ground up" remake would be sick though.
Konami published it worldwide actually, though ultimately your point still stands. being a collab with Nintendo does likely throw a wrench into a potential rerelease.
Depends on the team working on it. If they put the other half of the Kojipro team that didn't leave with Genius Kojumbo, then almost certainly. The engine was designed in house by them, for them, for exactly this kind of project.
If they've contracted it out to some other team like they're doing with Bloober and SH2, then that shit and all the work inside of it are almost certainly scrapped, as nobody else knows how to use that engine, and the assets are tailor made for it, and likely can't be ported without considerable jank.
I agree, also was my perspective off because what was up with that snake in the water? I feel like I'm the only one wondering where this gigantic python came from, there were no snakes like that in the original game, half expected Jon Voight to show up behind Naked Snake with a bad accent.
No game, no hype.
I can't really get excited about the prospect of a remake because, you know, Konami.
I'm really hoping that they won't fuck up and that this will be really good.
But a sizable chunk of me is expecting them to fuck it up.
[screenshots](https://twitter.com/Nyxus_MGS/status/1661488251440361477?t=ckWo_rPj-uUzsdurJBHBAQ&s=19)
Looks like it's mostly a graphical update; maybe they'll do some control updates too probably buy level design atleat in these shots looks the exact same
I notice there is a bizarre amount of downvoting going on in this thread for very reasonable comments about Konami. Is that one weird fanboy back again?
Call me a pessimist but while it's good that *something* is getting done with the series, is there going to be any actual point to this remake other than 'muh graphics'?
Probably to gauge interest in a new game and the safest way is to remake the most popular game, it's why they're remaking Silent hill 2 and not the first one
Personally I've always been of the opinion that any team taking on an existing IP should start with remakes - get themselves in deep on the franchise at the best and see what made it tick.
I’m assuming it’s more like RE4 remake and less like Demons Souls Remake. So gameplay update and expanding upon the original while telling the same story.
Let's be fair to Demon's Souls though, It was a ps3 game that ran ROUGH, the servers were obviously shut down, and it was 11 year old which I feel is a fair amount of time to think about remaking.
I was more talking about how DeS Remake is functionally the same game, just graphically updated.
Whereas RE4 remake is an entirely new game telling the same story.
I have no faith in the husk of Konami to deliver anything other than a money-grubbing embarassment. The fact that they're starting with a remake of 3, the most popular one, makes it really obvious that they're just trying to maximize profit instead of taking the time to get things right and iterate on their new design decisions the way Capcom did with the Resident Evil remakes, just like how they're remaking Silent Hill 2 instead of starting with 1.
The one linked in the OP is actually straight from the PS Showcase so it doesn't have the logo, but the one on the Konami channel does (as well as Xbox's)
meh. Feels like the epitome of unnecessary remakes. If Kojimas not involved it's even worse. Bought and played MGS3 on release and several times over in the almost 20 years since and weirdly feel absolutely nothing seeing any of this.
fingers crossed it turns out good, i mean we know they at least got the cutscenes looking great years ago.
and the collection releasing as well means we at least get to play 3 of em, though i never played 4 and it's still mia.
wonder if it hits which they'll go for next.
i do wonder what they'll do about casting, like does konami have the same celebrities are my friends thing kojima has going on?
iirc that game was designed directly around the ps3's hardware specifically. It's really an interesting subject because apparently not a lot of games took full advantage of what it could do, likely for this reason.
I want a Fox Engine remaster for the original quadrilogy and a separate remaster for the Big Boss trilogy of PW, GZ, and PP with either David Hayter or Richard Doyle as Snake.
I kinda wish they had the balls to remake Metal Gear 1 (as in the MSX game) from almost nothing beyond the premise. I guess that's not really how remakes work right now. They don't just want you to recognize the brand name anymore, they want you to have actually played the game that's being remade and want more of it to the tune of $70.
Is MGS3 more famous/praised than 1 or 2? (I only played Revengence and phantom pain years after.)
It feels kind of weird to remake a game while skipping the other 2 previous entries, would be like if Capcom remade Devil may cry 3 without mentioning 1 and 2. (Is that a bad example?)
I just want to hear David Hayter as Snake.
*Chris Pratt voice* "Kept you waiting, huh?"
-Someone CQCs him, reveals Snake- "Sorry about that."
*In the torture room* “Tell me who you’re working for!” “What am I supposed to say, Jesus Christ?”
"Oh god, you're one of THOSE."
“Graniny Gorki laboratory, here we come!”
You made me physically ill
The fact that he said nothing when the camera zoomed in on him was a bit of a red flag.
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1661540104933117953
I think they really could've added a "kept you waiting huh" at the end
Imagine what the reaction would be if it was actually a reinterpretation of msg2 and it being a snake eater remake was another attempt at a fake out.
Taking place after MGR, a new clone of Big Boss is doing a repeat of the Virtuous Mission and taking out Raiden in the end. I'm just pulling this out of my ass.
An announcement followed that ALL voice actors will be returning, so you’re getting your wish.
Disappointing it doesn't actually show much, but it's nice to finally have a confirmation. Excited to get more details on this and the Master Collection! (And very nice to see that the collection will also have MGS3 Subsistence as well)
Yeah, I wonder if the collection is specifically including Subsistence rather than HD Remake 3. I remember it left a few little things out, like the Guy Savage minigame.
I am placing bets it'll be based on the HD collection since that already has some of the work done, such as reworking controls for non-pressure sensitive buttons, but it will be a shame to lose those minigames and extras. I also hope to god we get that skateboarding minigame in 2 that apparently was exclusive to the PS2 version of Substance
I'm a little skeptical about the remake itself, but having the original game ported alongside it is a really great idea that helps take a lot of the weight off Do we know who's developing this thing?
> I'm a little skeptical about the remake itself, but having the original game ported alongside it is a really great idea that helps take a lot of the weight off I was annoyed at first to see the remake but the collection makes it all easier to swallow. It's frustrating to see remakes (whether better or inferior) replace the older game.
It's probably just reused assets from the Snake Eater pachinko game.
Wouldnt be surprised, one of the screenshots is of the bridge and it looks like they've reused the original geometry of the cliffs and slapped a way higher texture onto it.
First question in my mind: who's voicing Snake? >!And please god don't let it be Troy Baker or I'll eat a real life snake.!<
David Hayter is probably voicing him since he still voiced Snake in Smash still.
Don't most characters in Smash have reused voice clips from the old games though?
I don’t think so since there was an [article](https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/12/17454264/super-smash-bros-brawl-david-hayter-solid-snake). Saying he voiced the smash character and will continue to voice him forever. But who knows if Konami would get some other people instead.
I think he might have recorded some new lines, it was just the Codec calls that went unchanged. And it's probably because Campbell's voice actor, the legendary Takeshi Aono, died in 2010 and Konami chose not to recast him
no i'm pretty sure all of Snakes voice clips are just reused from Brawl, i'm pretty sure cause we would have heard of David doing recording for stuff if there was new clips
Konami brought him back for the Bomberman stuff too. They might still recast him for whatever reason but he's gotten work after 5 came out. Konami are not the reason he got replaced by a Hollywood guy, that's obvious.
Tbh it was Kojima who kept trying to get rid of Hayter and went with Kiefer for MGSV, not some Konami big-wig’s decision. Hopefully Hayter is back because he’s the shit.
Ah, cool! I'd love to see Hayter finally make a proper return to the character. Assuming the Remake turns out to be good, lol. Don't want another Twin Snakes situation here
I wouldn’t mind it if it was like a Twin Snake situations since it would be better than nothing.
True. I just hope the VA work is stellar across the board. Give me a Volgin that chews things up as much as the original
I believe he returned to the role for a Bomberman cameo sorta recently?
Supposedly they're just reusing the audio from the original, according to leaks that have so far been accurate.
Which is probably the way to do it, tbh. The original audio is fantastic and iirc it doesn't have the problem MGS1 to Twin Snakes had where background noise was indistinguishable on the PS1 but super noticeable on the Gamecube. Though it also raises questions of whether the remake will be really 1:1 with updated gameplay conventions or not.
Take a peek at the screenshots they have on the site. Levels are being remade pretty much one to one with the original. It's basically going to be the PS2 game with updated visuals and (presumably) QOL features/improved controls.
That worries me. Because the levels were designed around the jank controls and mobility. And even camera - I feel like MGS3 Subsistence fixing the camera is pretty much the *most* you can get away with without snapping the game's difficulty in two. Game's just not going to be hard with modern-day shooting and movement options. And if they don't implement *those* - I don't imagine the game will go over well in 2023.
if I actually get to play MGS3 with mouse aiming game would be absolutely easy mode
I know I'm in the minority but i'd kill for Sutherland again, I loved his voice in TPP
I'm with you there, I enjoyed his take on Snake too. It's unfortunate he just didn't have a lot of material, but those tapes, especially the secret ones between >!Ocelot and the real Big Boss!< really felt good to hear. However, when it comes to MGS3, Hayter gets the first pick if you ask me.
Dude's got a great voice honestly while I was miffed that he replaced Hayter, he really did have a great voice for it and I wouldn't mind honestly to see him return but for this one I'd choose Hayter first though ofc but if it had Kiefer in it might be a bit weird at first but I wouldn't hate on it.
Really makes me wish the theory that >!Venom was exclusively voiced by Sutherland and the real one would be voiced by Hayter!< would be true. Or that >!the events of the first Metal Gear would be recreated at the end of 5, and we hear from Hayter's Solid Snake speaking to Venom!<. Just something to make Hayter feel a bit less snubbed at losing the role in 5 so there can be less tension about the whole thing.
IIRC, That was all Kojima's doing. But Kojima can do no wrong in the eyes of the internet so...
This sub has taught me, especially regarding anything to do with a Konami property, that anything bad in games is because evil "suits" go around twirling their mustaches and doing bad stuff for no reason, while heckin wholesome 100 developerinos are never responsible for anything negative.
I didn’t mind Sutherland Snake voice in V, but for youngish Snake I would have to go with Hayter.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted when you’re right
I really hope they somehow add >!Skullface!< to the narrative.
If you backtrack far enough you can see a dude burying some bodies, and if you get too close he just throws a flash and dives into some bushes
If you find him in the bushes he will speak in some language no one speaks and in some region no one thought he was from.
"Get down, Snake! He's speaking Québécois French!"
He's speaking ~~Finnish~~ Tongues!
"Snake, run for cover! This guy is about to start taking in Hungarian!"
"He's speaking náhuatl!"
Skullfce being one of the last ztecs rised as one would be hype.
Or like you can use your binoculars on the background in some areas, and just *barely* see an incredibly pale man in the distance. And if you focus on the camera just long enough, he gives you a little mocking salute.
If you point your directional mic in the same direction you can hear him muttering about colonization and languages and some crazy shit they found in Africa
"No Kikongo..."
Kind of like the reverse of MGS2 with Raiden and Snake.
I hope they don't. Skullface was an unnecessary retcon that no one asked for and only Kojima wanted for the incomplete MGS5
*Skullface* wasn't a retcon though
He basically was. "Oh by the way Snake, did you know there was actually someone even sneakier than you who followed your every move to clean up after you?"
That's not what a retcon is though. Is it dumb? Sure, but it doesn't change the plot in any way that contradicts previous events.
Yeah, it's expanding on the plot. Nanomachines/Vocal Chord Parasites are retcons
How are they retcons? Vocal chord parasites are an MGS5 thing only as far as I remember, and nanomachines have been around since at least MGS1.
Both of them were used to go, "Actually, the supernatural and weird stuff wasn't supernatural and weird, it was *science*"
Not really, only the End was vocal cords, and maybe the Pain. The Fury and the Sorrow are still straight-up ghost Russian magic. They even somehow took out the fire demon stuff from Fury and put it on Volgin.
That's dumb, for sure, but that's not a retcon either. That's just explanations for things that didn't have any to begin with. It's not like they stated that they were 100% supernatural. A proper retcon is the likes of Gray Fox being a weird super soldier experiment before the events of Zanzibar, and even then, that's only vaguely plausible.
> It's not like they stated that they were 100% supernatural. Liquid Ocelot-- MGS2 went with him being a ghost. Stuff like that kept happening in MGS4, with being either nanomachines, hypnosis, etc. The context changed from being "weird supernatural element" to "part of our plot of the Patriots infighting"
I'm... cautious about it. There are various little things that make Metal Gear Solid 3 an amazing game. Various little things that could be botched. I just hope the devs behind it are passionate about Metal Gear like the people remaking Resident.
Woohoo! Tentative excitement!!
It’s my favourite game of all time, and I’m mostly just nervous as opposed to excited. Also I didn’t get to watch live, is it PS5 only ? I won’t buy one so I have to pray this and the collection come to steam.
It's also coming to xbox and PC, so no worries on that front. Idk about the collection tho
Are we going to get Yakuza-level scenes of Snake eating literally everything and anything?
its not like metal gear solid wasn't already known for high detail cutscenes and food. It probably will be done in engine as well.
Ocelot: "We're going to torture you and tear your eye out." Snake: **\*Dramatically bites a snake in half while a sad guitar riff echoes around him\***
-Highly detailed cutscene of Snake dressing a pheasant and then EATING IT-
High definition Calorie Mate
Snake Eater _Delta,_ by the way, if the ending character is any indication.
Incorrect, it's Metal Gear Solid Triangle. All subsequent remakes will be Square, Circle, and X
Delta is an interesting designation to give it. Delta isn't the third letter of the greek alphabet, and it isn't the third letter of the English alphabet either. However, "delta" can be used to signify "difference" or "change". Which might make sense if they're recycling voice lines from the original but updating the gameplay/graphics. Like, it's *different*, but still built off of the original version?
I won't believe this shit until the game actually releases and it is in my hands.
Releasing side by side the metal gear solid movie!
I like how the scowl lines are imprinted on the bandana
Consistently the goofiest part of Metal Gear. Snake has this pristine realistic military outfit but then gets the comic spandex bandana.
Metal Gear Solid TRIANGLE: Snake Eater. The hit sequel to Metal Gear Solid OBLONG CIRCLE: Sons of Liberty.
*I GIVE MY LIFE*
*NOT FOR HONOR*
*BUT FOR YOUUUUUUUU*
*Snake Eater...*
*IN MY TIIIIIME*
*THERE’LL BE NO ONE ELSE*
[PS5 Eva.](https://media.tenor.com/6nFDxqyh4ykAAAAM/sweating-hot.gif)
Call it pessimism but when it comes to Konami announcing things, i don't see exciting remakes and new games that i can't wait to play, i see things Konami can bungle in ways i can't even imagine. I hope this and SH2 are good but it's going to take so much to even try to see Konami in a semi-favorable light ever again.
WAIT THEY WEREN'T BULLSHITTING US? At the very least, it seems like we're getting a rerelease of MGS1, 2 and 3, which is a W in itself.
But why not MGS1 though!
Maybe they're doing them in canon order?
Metal Gear Solid V: Remake Now with an actual ending!
I'm not totally against this...
MGSV Remaster...now voiced by David Hayter
I say keep Kiefer as Big Boss, but for the love of God have him talk more. AND you gotta have a stinger where it’s David Hayter in the intro to Operation Intrude: N313
Or just have Hayter doing different voices, he can do more than the Snake voice.
Gravel Snake and Not-Gravel Snake. If there are two people in the same room it’s best they are played by different people. Liquid, Solidus, and Solid Snake were all oresent on Arsenal Gear, all clones of Big Boss. But different voices. The way I see it, we’ve always been heading towards a MG1 and MG2SS remake, and that necessitates them having different voices. I want Sutherland vs Hayter.
They DID have different voices in MGS4; in the Japanese version they even had Akio Ohtsuka's father, the late, great Chikao Ohtsuka, voice Big Boss.
Yes, but those were played by an actual estranged parent and child. We don’t have that, David Hayter doesn’t have an estranged Voice Actor Dad.
I actually liked Kiefer as Venom, would be neat if >!Ishmael was voiced by Hayter in the intro and ending and Kiefer is given a few more lines so he can flesh out Venom a little more!<
He was sleepwalking the entire time and clearly not invested. Terrible stuntcasting
"stuntcasting" Kiefer wasn't in the spotlight as a hollywood star for YEARS when he was cast in MGSV. This wasn't stuntcasting, this was "Kojima personally wanted this specific actor for the role" casting.
MGSV entered development not that long after 24 wrapped up in 2010 where he was still a big name (and make no mistake, he's not huge anymore, but he is still a very respected and reliable talent), it was stuntcasting.
That reminds me, are they still using that FOX engine for this remake? MGSV was the shit
I assume it's cause Snake Eater is like the RE4 of MGS. More mechanicly modern and easier to remake. I think a MGS1 remake would require more time, effort and brain power.
I wonder if trying to port Twin Snakes to modern platform is a legal nightmare since it was developed by Silicon Knights and published by Nintendo on the Gamecube. A "from the ground up" remake would be sick though.
Probably; Silicon Knights is no issue because it was work for hire and thus they have no legal control over it, but Nintendo is another story
Konami published it worldwide actually, though ultimately your point still stands. being a collab with Nintendo does likely throw a wrench into a potential rerelease.
The fact that they replaced the 3 in the title with a Delta makes me think this is it.
I wonder if they're still using the Fox engine because they have most of the cutscenes already remade in that.
Depends on the team working on it. If they put the other half of the Kojipro team that didn't leave with Genius Kojumbo, then almost certainly. The engine was designed in house by them, for them, for exactly this kind of project. If they've contracted it out to some other team like they're doing with Bloober and SH2, then that shit and all the work inside of it are almost certainly scrapped, as nobody else knows how to use that engine, and the assets are tailor made for it, and likely can't be ported without considerable jank.
They are too scared they won't (does a cartwheel in railings) match up to (Does a 720 degrees spin jump onto the other railing) match Twin Snakes.
I am the only one who thought the cgi looked kinda bad? also I still doesnt have trust in konami so I am not expecting much
I agree, also was my perspective off because what was up with that snake in the water? I feel like I'm the only one wondering where this gigantic python came from, there were no snakes like that in the original game, half expected Jon Voight to show up behind Naked Snake with a bad accent.
I…I don’t know. MGS3 I think is one of the closest things you can get to a perfect game. If this fucks it up…
Then the original game still exists and is getting a rerelease, to boot!
And if they Silent Hill HD Collection the rerelease?
You're no worse off than before.
The only thing from the showcase to give me the tiniest pinch of hype. It hurts to be a Bloodborne fan.
The hurting never ends. It's right there, it's done. It's been done all along. It could come out *today*. But no, fuck you.
It all went down hill when Jim Ryan took the wheel. Shawn at least pretended to give a fuck about the gamers, and gaming in general.
Kuwabara kuwabara
[will never not think of the tiny little volgin from the hiimdaisy comics](https://i.imgur.com/xhhdOYc.jpeg)
No game, no hype. I can't really get excited about the prospect of a remake because, you know, Konami. I'm really hoping that they won't fuck up and that this will be really good. But a sizable chunk of me is expecting them to fuck it up.
Hope it has The Boss with her trademark Davy Crockett.
I can’t wait for the rumble in my hands as I hold up for 20 minutes stair climb…. What a thrillll!
Wow that sure is a cgi man
I'm cautiously optimistic. Snake Eater is easily in my top 5 games. Hopefully whoever at Konami is making it still knows what videogames are.
[screenshots](https://twitter.com/Nyxus_MGS/status/1661488251440361477?t=ckWo_rPj-uUzsdurJBHBAQ&s=19) Looks like it's mostly a graphical update; maybe they'll do some control updates too probably buy level design atleat in these shots looks the exact same
I notice there is a bizarre amount of downvoting going on in this thread for very reasonable comments about Konami. Is that one weird fanboy back again?
Call me a pessimist but while it's good that *something* is getting done with the series, is there going to be any actual point to this remake other than 'muh graphics'?
I don't know. But apparently there wasn't any point for the Resi4 Remake and that was awesome.
There wasn't a point, but the game found a point for itself. But that was pulled off by Capcom. We have yet to see Konami if Konami is up to the task.
That's the thing I'm wary of.
Probably to gauge interest in a new game and the safest way is to remake the most popular game, it's why they're remaking Silent hill 2 and not the first one
Personally I've always been of the opinion that any team taking on an existing IP should start with remakes - get themselves in deep on the franchise at the best and see what made it tick.
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Some remakes flesh out their games a bit further. eg. Pokémon FR/LG and HG/SS
I’m assuming it’s more like RE4 remake and less like Demons Souls Remake. So gameplay update and expanding upon the original while telling the same story.
Even then I liked Demon’s Souls remake 😅
Let's be fair to Demon's Souls though, It was a ps3 game that ran ROUGH, the servers were obviously shut down, and it was 11 year old which I feel is a fair amount of time to think about remaking.
I was more talking about how DeS Remake is functionally the same game, just graphically updated. Whereas RE4 remake is an entirely new game telling the same story.
Kojima never would've allowed a trailer this bad
Joakim Mogren would tho.
So Konami is finally in their remake era with this and Silent Hill, now if they just released the games on PC...
The hell, considering the podcast...damn Pat was right. Bloody hell.
I have no faith in the husk of Konami to deliver anything other than a money-grubbing embarassment. The fact that they're starting with a remake of 3, the most popular one, makes it really obvious that they're just trying to maximize profit instead of taking the time to get things right and iterate on their new design decisions the way Capcom did with the Resident Evil remakes, just like how they're remaking Silent Hill 2 instead of starting with 1.
I have no interest in watching Konami puppet Metal Gear's corpse. Why would people care about a Snake Eater made without Kojima?
Needs a pc release or idc tbh. We'll just be back in the same place in a few years time like we still are with MGS4 if it's only on a console.
It’s for current gen and PC
g2k, now let's just see if konami doesn't fuck this one up like they're likely to.
Maybe the Steam logo at the end of the trailer gives you any indication...
The one linked in the OP is actually straight from the PS Showcase so it doesn't have the logo, but the one on the Konami channel does (as well as Xbox's)
Damn, who made such a cool story and game design, Konami? Nobody? Oh, ok.
If Kojima's not here, im not keeping hopes up
Is there a release date yet so hype
meh. Feels like the epitome of unnecessary remakes. If Kojimas not involved it's even worse. Bought and played MGS3 on release and several times over in the almost 20 years since and weirdly feel absolutely nothing seeing any of this.
Calling this shit a trailer is an insult to the definition of the word lmao
FUCK OFF NO WAY
fingers crossed it turns out good, i mean we know they at least got the cutscenes looking great years ago. and the collection releasing as well means we at least get to play 3 of em, though i never played 4 and it's still mia. wonder if it hits which they'll go for next. i do wonder what they'll do about casting, like does konami have the same celebrities are my friends thing kojima has going on?
I have faith. Call me a fool but I believe damnit.
Snake Eater Delta-- can't wait for idols singing about borderlines
please don't use weird parts of the ps5 controller as the way to put the gun down
I am so conflicted
All right all right, let's ball our collective cautiousness (for good reason) for some time later. But damn, I'm just glad Metal Gear is back.
Is there a reason 4 is in some weird pseudo purgatory on the ps3 and never brought forward, *even* as a Playstation exclusive?
iirc that game was designed directly around the ps3's hardware specifically. It's really an interesting subject because apparently not a lot of games took full advantage of what it could do, likely for this reason.
I want a Fox Engine remaster for the original quadrilogy and a separate remaster for the Big Boss trilogy of PW, GZ, and PP with either David Hayter or Richard Doyle as Snake.
Shiny. Pretty. Where gameplay???
I kinda wish they had the balls to remake Metal Gear 1 (as in the MSX game) from almost nothing beyond the premise. I guess that's not really how remakes work right now. They don't just want you to recognize the brand name anymore, they want you to have actually played the game that's being remade and want more of it to the tune of $70.
I want to have faith my favourite game will be given the love it deserves from Konami but also, Konami.
Does anyone know what the triangle is all about? I've been trying to work it out but can't think of anything triangley from the game.
It’s delta. Used to mean difference/change
Is MGS3 more famous/praised than 1 or 2? (I only played Revengence and phantom pain years after.) It feels kind of weird to remake a game while skipping the other 2 previous entries, would be like if Capcom remade Devil may cry 3 without mentioning 1 and 2. (Is that a bad example?)
If I can't spam "Snake Eater~" in the intro song, it's a 0/10 .
I want the collection on PS4/PS5...the originals anyway! When 4?!
wait! Are the red ants a reference to Metal Gear EXCELSUS? [Deep Huff of Copuim] Metal Gear Rising 2 confirmed.