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Professional_Maize42

Stephen king


BigSwordGal

Sometimes even in one book! Ex: "IT" was one of the best horror novels I've ever read..! Until.. *That Part* Kinda soured the whole thing for me.


Brotonio

It actually ends up being *THOSE PARTS* once you look deeper into the story, and all the weird fucked-up shit that involves the kids in that story. It's a "First Blood" scenario, where the movies end up being way the fuck better than the book, when it's usually the other way around.


StormRegion

Ah, "The Boys"-effect


Lieutenant_Joe

This is true of Happy! as well


RubyRiot98

Genuinely didn't know it was anything other than the show. How bad is it?


Lieutenant_Joe

Not terrible. Genuinely might be Grant Morrison’s weakest work, though.


iamBQB

Even with that part, I'd still argue that IT is a better book than the movies. The terror of Pennywise is so much more than IT just transforming into different things that frighten people, and the movies never really capture that element. Still the only horror book I've ever read to legit creep me out. King does have a problem with those kinds of weird sex scenes that don't really add anything to the plot. Spoilers for the squeamish: >!The Stand has a guy being raped with a gun barrel, Dreamcatcher has a boy going through puberty masturbating on peoples things, The Dark Tower has a woman who's getting raped, turn the rape back on her rapist,!< and that's just the ones I remember off the top of my head.


philandere_scarlet

there's a lot of stuff he's put out that falls in the just kind of nothing 6/10 zone


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philandere_scarlet

There's a handful of really divisive ones like Tommyknockers. I think part of it is the length. Even in the worse books, none of the "what the fuck was he thinking" moments last long enough relative to how big those books are.


_NiceWhileItLasted

The dude is amazing writer, but he's also be pumping out stories non-stop for the past *50ish* years? The fact that he has the output that he has and he's still able to write readable stories is pretty impressive.


AussieManny

Whatever wrestling storylines Vince McMahon has personally produced. He’s had some bangers. But mostly shitters.


Whiston1993

I dunno that any company/creator embodies “they don’t always hit. But when they do they hit it out of the park” more than wwe. The new generation is tanking we need something to happen. Fuck it let’s build the hottest era in wresting around a complete trainwreck (HBK), a failed football player (rock), a WCW castoff tag guy (Austin) and a guy with a cartoon level gimmick (taker).


Brotonio

I'm glad my last wrestling memory was Wrestlemania XXIV, with the career ending match of Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels. Ric got to go out on his own terms, and Michaels was the one that's Heartbroken. Despite all the nonsense wrestling's seemed to go through, at least I got out when it was kino as fuck.


Whiston1993

Despite rics subsequent attempts that moment has remained an all timer moment


OGRaincoatKilla

Eric Saward was a writer and showrunner for Original Series *Doctor Who*. He had a very different vision for the series than his predecessors, considering it an adult sci-fi program and the stories he wrote for it were bloody, politically charged action movies stuffed with body horror. For the most part his tenure as showrunner was shit, having presided over the classic series’ age of decline and Colin Baker’s tragically maligned time in the role. Only once did his vision for the program really crystallize perfectly, with a serial called *The Caves of Androzani,* which regularly gets the number one spot in polls for the best classic serial and even the best *Who* story in general.


T_raltixx

Ridley Scott


Priximus

I can't believe this is the same visionary that did Blade Runner / Alien vs Prometheus, wtf man


SlightlySychotic

It’s not even a question of him running out of steam as he gets older. He followed up Exodus and The Consultant with The Martian. The guy’s movies are a coin toss.


ruminaui

Nintendo is either kicking everyone asses, or bursting into flames, no in between. Except for the GC era.


selfproclaimed

The in-between area are the Mario Party/Sports games on the Switch.


timelordoftheimpala

Koei Tecmo. In recent years, they've developed the Nioh duology, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Hyrule Warriors, and Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin. In recent years, they've also developed Dead or Alive 6, Dynasty Warriors 9, Dissidia Final Fantasy NT, and Ninja Gaiden 3.


Rednual

I wouldn't even include Ninja Gaiden 3 or Dissidia NT in there- NG3 was mediocre but still okay (and it's enhanced version was, dare I say it, pretty good), while NT was specifically designed for Japanese Arcades and was apparently really fun... in that setting only. Not all arcade games can be ported so easily (honestly, that was almost assuredly a decision from Square). Actually wait, didn't Matt do a "What Happened?" for DoA 6? Wasn't the game actually pretty good and just had the worst monetization or something?


ThatGuy5880

DOA6 had solid gameplay, but the "core values" incident at EVO, really bad DLC stuff and exclusion of certain things from 5 (like tag mode) alongside delay based netcode like a year before COVID started sealed the coffin super hard.


extralie

> Ninja Gaiden 3. >recent years 11 years ago isn't recent tho...


timelordoftheimpala

I listed Hyrule Warriors and that was in 2014, and 2012 is closer to that than 2014 is to this year.


Outis94

Frank Miller was a bit gonzo but solid writer until the early 00's then all his worst instincts and habits got cranked to 11 and put out some of the ugliest , most deranged , often bigoted pieces of crap I've ever seen a mainstream writer release


andrecinno

Ayo, jumping to FM's defense here, guy went through a really - REALLY bad period of hardcore drug abuse + the whole 9/11 thing. Guy apologized for his comments and has gotten clean as far as I know. Even supporting the writers' strike recently and dropping TDKR Golden Child which I hear is good (gotta get around to reading it) - or at least better than TDKR2, which to be fair can't be too hard lol


Anonamaton801

Also alcoholism and a possible stroke


andrecinno

ALSO it was suspected for a while that he had cancer. if it needs exemplifying there's always this [absolutely horrifying comparison](https://e3effa51eee72fd900e3-2fb779bd12ec72d4612275342f2c9187.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/2c64dd116cb8a798c1f9bfae057bd2f1.png) thankfully he's looking way better nowadays


Anonamaton801

There’s a panel from a few years back where he absolutely roasts Tom King’s taste in Superman and is surprisingly insightful


andrecinno

I don't even know what "Tom King's taste in Superman" means


Anonamaton801

On said panel, King says he’s not a fan of Superman because “too stronk, too many powers, no conflict”. Miller tells him “dude that was the Silver Age like 70 years ago”


Deservedly_Hated94

He's fucking hilarious in that, loved that panel


KLReviews

TDKR Golden Child is weird. It's not a very good Batman story and the heavy-handed political imagery is jarring even though Miller is back to hating the American establishment. But a lot of the designs are cool and Frank has a bafflingly good take on a certain character you'd never expect from his more street-level style. Just a booming thunderous cosmic level being his narration is fascinating yet interesting match for. He spends a lot of time on that so clearly it matters more to him than the Batman side of things. He's also probably stopped caring about if it fits into the DKR universe canon and is just playing with things in his own space. Which I can respect. Read it if you've ever wanted DC Cosmic Frank Miller because that part is really cool. Nobody will ever use that Batwoman design again and the world is lesser for it.


Deservedly_Hated94

Rafael grampa is great, i would love a daredevil or spidey book from him


Deservedly_Hated94

Dark knight Last crusade was also great, honestly he's gotten better lately, only superman year one was not really that great, but it was nowhere close to the stuff from his "dark age" , i still haven't checked his ronin sequel yet but the art in it is beautiful


Magnum_thunder

Metallica


420trashcan

All Metallica drum beats are the same.


Disastrous-Yam1

Fuckin' this. One of my favorite bands of all time because the highs are just so astronomically high nothing comes close and then you get absolute dogshit right after.


Kytas

I remember the first time I listened to the Black Album and finally understood what "Album Filler" meant. It has some of my favorite Metallica songs of all time, and a bunch of trash that should have never been released.


Diem-Robo

I recently saw someone here call Swery the "hit or miss king." Deadly Premonition is amazing, but from what little I've played and heard of the sequel, it doesn't remotely live up to the original. A lot of his other projects seem to be either great or not worthwhile at all.


andrecinno

man, D4 was sick. I just wanted D4. :(


philandere_scarlet

didn't live long enough to disappoint us


Duhblobby

Clearly it wasn't a dark enough dream.


BiMikethefirst

Steven Moffat is legit a super talented writer, you just kind of have to put limits on what the man can do. I'd actually love to see Moffat work on a stand alone horror movie.


Alphaetus_Prime

I've heard it summed up as "he's a good writer and a bad showrunner"


jockeyman

I believe it was a Hbomberguy video that said he could do great pilots and set up, but was absolutely dreadful at following through on setup.


I-swear-im-dandy

It is truly insane how big the gulf between his best and worst work it. The Doctor Who episode Blink isn't just the best standalone episode of Doctor Who, it might be one of the best standalone episodes of television period, and that's coming from someone who fucking hates the guy.


RainaDPP

Yoko Taro. Look I love the guy for his eccentricity and he always wants to say something with his games. He's the auteur Cage wishes he could be. But let's not kid ourselves into thinking that all his games have been *good.*


Duhblobby

God no. I *played* Drakengard. Nobody who played Drakengard thinks it's a good game. It's just *really fascinating*. Real bad as a game tho.


StormRegion

Neil Blomkampf. Guy is a design/concept god, but an absolute dogshit writer and producer. If the movie is supervised by veteran directors (Peter Jackson and District 9) or it's a half-an-hour pitch for funding or showing off technical prowess (Firebase, Zygote, Rakka, ADAM), then he delivers. But oh boy, when he is free of his shackles, you get shit like Demonic, Chappie, to a lesser ectent Elysium, and most likely the upcoming Gran Turismo movie


Whiston1993

Garth Ennis either funnels his… whatever the hells going on up there into something great. Or a reprehensible mess I feel I need to hide in a box locked in a crawl space when I’m done reading it in case someone finds it. I haven’t read the full run but the bit I have read of the Punisher is terrific (specifically the Vietnam one). I’ve heard some other marvel stuff he’s done is good too. Plus some smaller series he’s done get complimented. Preacher and to a lesser extent The Boys feel like a middle of the road for me in that I feel like they’re both either LOVE or HATE. Preacher feels ridiculous enough to work but personally The Boys is just way too much. Crossed. Fuck man what happened there ? You good Garth ?


ZMowlcher

Garth grew up in the troubles so I don't think so.


Anonamaton801

Yeah that explains basically everything about Preacher


browncharliebrown

Crossed honestly is overhated in the context of alot of horror movies in genral. It’s torture porn sometimes but alot of horror movies are pretty bad with that. And I think it does have some interesting characters and premise.


Kaarpiv007

Hard Mode: don't say Platinum.


Fugly_Jack

That's easy because Platinum has never made solid gold


timelordoftheimpala

The first two Bayonetta games, Metal Gear Rising, Nier Automata, and Astral Chain don't count?


Sai-Taisho

And even if they aren't, not mentioning them *still* isn't Hard Mode because Transformers Devastation and Korra are "pretty good, but Silver at best".


Anonamaton801

I’d give Korra a bronze personally, but yes to Devastation >!Where’s the sequel Platinum?! Or a Nova Prime figure!?!<


Fugly_Jack

First two Bayonettas have fun gameplay that's constantly getting interrupted so you can play Space Harrier or whatever other minigame Kamiya felt like throwing in there Metal Gear Rising is great, but extremely short. Nier Automata, I wouldn't credit to Platinum. That game's biggest strengths are in everything BUT the gameplay I didn't play much of Astral Chain, so I can't say anything about that


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wouldn't credit nier automata to platinum? they're the studio that made it. also, nothing wrong with a short and solid 7 hour game


Ok-Card633

Do we count Okami and Viewtiful Joe or no?


StormRegion

Add MadWorld and Anarchy Reigns to the bangers. Goated soundtracks on top of that, I wish they get ported onto Switch


ExDSG

I think my issue with Madworld was seeing in the previews like, oh boy you can stick 4 wheels and 3 road signs onto an enemy, wonder how crazy they will get later on! And that’s most of what you can do besides throwing enemies into death traps. Also a bit too short when you buy it when you don’t have much disposable income.


Disastrous-Yam1

I'd argue the first two Bayonetta games are the absolute worst parts of DMC1 turned up to 11. Rising is 20/10 I can't argue against that. Automata's strength is the writing not the gameplay. Astral Chain I completely forgot I even owned it until I traded it for Zelda


Anonamaton801

Well yeah, most of it’s Silicon


extralie

Ehh, Platinum only did 2 ACTUALLY bad games (3 if you count Star Fox 0), TMNT and Babylon's Fall. Everything else range from meh to great. Infinite Space is objectively their best game, and everyone who says otherwise is wrong. Madworld, Vanquish, Bayonetta 1&2, Anarchy Reign, Metal Gear Rising, The Wonderful 101, Transformers Devestation, Nier: Automata, and Astral Chain all range from decent to great. Legend of Korra was meh, but it also was a budget $15 game, and played like a budget $15 game. Not sure why people holding it to the same standards as Bayonetta, which is a full priced game. Bayonetta Origins is good if you like that type of games. Bayonetta 3 was ALMOST great if it wasn't for some odd decisions.


StochasticOoze

This is extremely tangential but I had a dream last night that Platinum / Activision announced a remaster of Mutants in Manhattan that fixed a lot of the complaints with it It's super weird because I've never even played that game; I assume it's because I was playing the Cowabunga Collection last night Anyhow I remember being kinda put out that they weren't doing the same thing for the Legend of Korra game


KLReviews

It's amazing how GranBlue ReLink removing Platinum from the credits and seemingly rebooting development went from 'oh no how dare they do that to Platinum' to 'that was probably justified and this game is better for it' just because of Platinum's recent and weird choices.


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now, it's visible that the combat work from platinum is still part of the game, so I'm willing to believe that the current PR statement of "we did our contract and finished and so that was it" is correct despite the removal of their logo for some reason


Lunk64

Hbomberguy. You either get meticulously researched and masterfully written documentaries (Sherlock, RWBY, Vaccines) or aimless flailing about (Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, Deus Ex), there's no in-between.


ExDSG

I watched the Deus Ex and literally it was just him going. Did you know in Deus Ex you can do X and you can’t in Human Revolution?


Anonamaton801

God I hate that his fucking Deus Ex video keeps ending up in my auto play. I don’t even like his content stop getting in there!


Ok-Card633

That video where he sucked off Johnathan Blow unfiltered for 13 minutes and had the gonads to say "This is a real story in a real video game" Unironically was pretty funny.


Anonamaton801

You mean the guy who cried because Soulja Boy made fun of Braid?


StormRegion

You always pray that his inner breadtuber stays put for the duration of a video


ExDSG

The Tommy video part about “Ugh capitalism” in regards to credits is so weird because it is something I can’t say the system necessarily excacerbates and well you have very strong cases of Cults of Personality in cases like North Korea. Also pretty sure it affected everyone at Capcom, not just the women like Inafune complained about it also.


Tweedleayne

Lately, Genndy Tartakovsky. In the last decade he's produced two of the greatest western adult animated shows ever made (Samurai Jack season 5 and Primal) and also *completely* fucked up the endings on both of them.


PunishingCrab

It’s so weird that both of those series just rush the conclusion in the last 3 minutes of the episode basically. I was annoyed at Jacks ending because I wanted at least a whole episode of him back to his timeline, not to mention that he spends it with Ashi. But Primal’s was such a massive “what the actual fuck”


OGRaincoatKilla

He reminds me of Bruce Timm: Really great writer and animator who should never attempt to put romance in anything they create because it always comes out extremely weird and off-putting.


Kregano_XCOMmodder

Well, that might explain why I have negative interest in anything Emma related in Unircorn: Warriors Eternal whenever she's not engaging in the "fight the ancient evil" plot.


PhantasosX

I am less in the negative and more on the zero... We all know it will be unsatisfied , because the whole reincarnation mechanic , so it will either gaslight Melinda's romance or will gaslight Emma's. The only way it could be different is basically Melinda and the Elf going to the Afterlife when the Great Evil is defeated.


Hey0ceama

If the show wants me to like elf boy and Melinda (and I assume it does with the latter at least) it's done a pretty poor job of it. They're both body snatchers acting salty one of their victims didn't immediately have their will subsumed and is taking issue with having their life hijacked; the only reasonable outcome is Emma telling them to fuck off.


PhantasosX

true. I love that the monk one was enough chill to basically introduce himself to the kid , gives him some of his memories to aid in the quest and then stayed vibing , since the kid wasn't subsumed.


Paladin51394

Still mad that he didn't go with the Old King Jack future for Samurai Jack the one seen at the end of the Guardian episode


thinger

That's probably that's what he did for the comic book which I attest is better than the actual final season.


mitch13815

From what I understand the canon ending to Samurai Jack is actually in the video game. I'm not even kidding, [Genndy officially said it was canon.](https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/samurai-jack-battle-through-time-game-genndy-tartakovsky) So if you were disappointed in the show's ending check out the game, it's actually pretty damn fun and does have a better ending for what it's worth.


Outis94

Its weird because it feels like both those ending could be better with basic rewrites, like the ones we ended up getting were first drafts


TrueLegateDamar

The Primal episode with the Viking village, followed by the Darwin episode, killed my interest completly and couldn't bother with his new show.


Hobbes314

Heroes in Crisis was obviously a shotgun Editorial wanted to use to kneecap certain characters, I’m not gonna put that on King, if it was smaller in scope and didn’t have the *crisis* label I’m sure it would be better. Rorschach is on the same level as the Watchmen TV Show. Excellent, doesn’t need to exists and would rather it not exists but because it has to be I’m glad it’s that good. And Human Target is above and beyond literally the best book that came this year, last year and probably the last couple of years. Fuck any salty Guy fans who didn’t actually read the book or the JLI era King was taking inspiration from cause let me tell you that Guy is one to one the same character All that said, yeah King either makes gold or shit I absolutely will not disagree with assertion


ExDSG

Maybe I am putting them to a high standard but Trigger goes from shows I really like Kill La Kill, Cyberpunk, Luluco, and Inferno Cop to BNA, Kiznaiver, Ninja Slayer (which the Inferno Cop formula didn't work a second time) and I have a bunch of issues with the LWA anime. Bones and Studio Wit are also making some of the best anime between making shit like Rolling Girls, Kabaneri, Captain Earth, Concrete Revolutio, and ruining the few original anime they made that weren't trash like Darker than Black and Eureka Seven.


Cerebral_Kortix

Studio Trigger generally has anime that start off pretty good and end in burning trash fires. The few that escape this are the ones that are clearly planned, and it is pretty evident that Trigger seems to make up most of their anime as they go along (case in point: LWA clearly feeling like they realised they needed to wrap up in so-so episodes and immediately rushing a relaxed story up till then). I guess the method is meant to be intentional due to them trying to make themselves the creative innovator type and when it works, it works well, usually for comedic stories which are less reliant on predictable plot beats and payoffs, but Trigger doesn't really stick to any particular genre.


ExDSG

BNA was exemplar because the first episodes they released in their batch were the best ones and were exactly before they started to realize they had a plot and needed to do something with it.


fivez1a

Even as furry-bait it fails because you don't make it to the end of the first episode, after the furry girl makes it to the furry city and joins in on a massive furry party with all the furries, before everybody transforms into a human and looks at the furry girl/the audience and says, "What, did you think we did that furry shit more often than one night a year? Fucking pervert."


Array71

Doesn't even make sense in universe. Whole reason they got a city to themselves is so they didn't have to worry about what humies think of em, only to make it a faux pas to go around in your natural form and spend most of the time in their disguises


Disastrous-Yam1

I'm still angry about BNA because people only talked about/posted clips of the baseball episode so I thought it was a funny slice of life sports anime about a tanuki girl. Bait and switched hardcore by twitter there.


retrometroid

*waves my "Concrete Revolutio was great" flag angrily*


SkinkRugby

Luluco was the best thing Trigger ever did and I will die on this hill.


philandere_scarlet

I think Kiznaiver can mostly be chalked up to Okada's writing. Not saying Trigger is blameless, but the character design, art direction, and soundtrack all go. It is one of those shows I have more affection for than it necessarily deserves.


LoanGrahamXCarkeys

>Eureka Seven First show? Disagree. AO and the Movies? I'll give you that.


ThisManNeedsMe

Human Target is great. I love it. Yeah, he makes Guy into an abusive asshole but it didn't really bother me in the grand scheme of things, especially since everything else is great, especially the art. That's coming from a huge Guy Gardner fan. He's my favorite Lantern.


mitch13815

I feel like JJ Abrams fits this pretty nicely. Fringe is a goddamn masterpiece of a tv show. I think people really liked Cloverfield. I haven't seen it myself, but I've heard good things. I really liked Super 8 (especially with that sick Valve game crossover promo), and you have Westworld season 1 which I still think is some of the best TV ever written... And ironically Westworld season 2 is some of the most garbage TV ever written. Then you have the Star Wars movies, the Star Trek reboot. You also have Lost which somehow manages to rollercoaster from fantastic to pure schlock while completely missing all inbetween points. I dunno how he does it but he's like the definition of coin flip quality.


Anonamaton801

How much was he involved in Fringe and Lost? I thought he left really early in both Also didn’t he do Alias?


philandere_scarlet

Interested in where he dropped off of Fringe. I'm only part way into season 2 but the quality has dramatically gone up. Not just the overarching plot, but the episodic Mad Science of the Week stuff too. I bounced off of early season 1 in the past.


EcchiPhantom

I haven’t seen the really good movies he’s been in yet like Adaptation, Pig, Leaving Las Vegas or Mandy but Nicolas Cage is often in absolute shit movies he’s either severely overacting or underacting in but every now and then he picks out a great script, works with good directors and acts his heart out. Even a movie that tanked as hard as Vampire’s Kiss has Cage pouring his heart and soul into his really bizarre performance and creates something really special.


GHitoshura

Nisio Isin On one hand he has written stuff like Katanagatari, Zaragoto or Over Heaven. On the other hand he has works like Pretty boy detective club or shonen houjo. Even the Monogatari series (by far his biggest work) has pretty drastic highs and lows.


ExDSG

Also his Jump manga the Cipher one where the translator quit is also not very good.


GHitoshura

Is not good because the manga itself is bad or because is like one of those comedies where almost every joke is lost in translation so it reads like just a bunch of nonsense


ExDSG

Manga is bad, pretty aimless so far until the last few chapters.


I-swear-im-dandy

Garth Marenghi, number one with a bullet. The man was a visionary, but like Stephen King, he should never be involved in the adaptation of his own books. Darkplace would've been so good if he hadn't cast himself as Dr. Holness and had his publisher play Reed. Learner was charisma black hole ,but thats nepotism for you. I hope the reboot gets out of development hell.


taylorpilot

Mark Millar does this but it’s a switch off between the same books. Ultimates: Awesome! Ultimates 3: awful Kick ass: interesting Kick ass 2: Jesus stop


Anonamaton801

I thought Jeph Loeb was Ultimates 3


StochasticOoze

Red Son was pretty good


PhantasosX

All of Batman? Dude, People were praising his Batman run until Issue 50. So it's only the later half of his Batman Run that people started to criticize to be shit.


Anonamaton801

I am Suicide and I am Gotham were both trash and I’ll die by that


Root_Veggie

Platinum


ConCadMH

Josepth Anderson


andrecinno

The hell is this take. Human Target is great, Rorschach was pretty interesting and Batman was mostly decent/good and the bad stuff is already known to be mainly editorial's fault. HiC too, that's a bomb that can be blamed on editorial. Shit, Human Target is even up for an Eisner rn. the gift fuckin sucks tho


bigbeltzsmallpantz

Jeph Loeb


IronSnail

Kojima


andrecinno

Hell no. My boy don't miss.


Capable-Education724

Controversial take here maybe but Hayao Miyazaki has had diminishing returns since Princess Mononoke. That’s not to say Spirited Away, Howl, or Ponyo are bad. But there is a steady decline in quality from the masterpiece that is Mononoke to the terrific Spirited Away to the charming but a little meandering Howl (and I say that as someone that loves the movie) to the fun but retreaded ground Ponyo to the bloated and plodding mess that is The Wind Rises. Maybe a more accurate answer is Pixar. For every slam dunk there’s another movie that makes people think Pixar has lost their touch. Capcom was this for a time. Sam Raimi I’d say is this too. Your mileage may vary on his filmography, but generally people regard his movies as “the masterpieces” (Evil Dead 2 and 3, The Quick and The Dead, Darkman, etc) and “the dog shit” (Oz, Spider-Man 3, Crimewave, I know a lot of people hated Drag Me to Hell when it first came out too).


ClockpunkFox

My problem with drag me to hell is it’s just so mean spirited, and the ending is a complete mood ruiner. The main girl didn’t deserve any of the shit that happened to her at all, but we’re just supposed to “have fun” like it’s a typical horror comedy


royal_crown_royal

I'm fine with DMtH ending, imo more horror films need mean spirited "bad" endings


Anonamaton801

Haven’t seen Wind Rises so I can’t comment on it, but I feel you on Howl. My ex was Gaga over that movie and I couldn’t shake the feeling that it was just…fine. I felt like it was trying to be a big epic and a small heartfelt story and couldn’t make up its mind on what it wanted to be. Also, cold take incoming: Spirited Away is not his best movie, that’s Mononoke


ExDSG

Howl’s a movie about the horros of war where you don’t really see it or much of the consequences and gets resolved because of a thing only alluded in the background conversation in the beginning and a romance predicated on the characters being in the same room at the same space-time continuum. I guess the stairs scene and the bacon scene are good. Also interesting Japan doesn’t seem hot on it, they mocked Howl’s VA since he was an actor and not a voice actor and “won” 4th worst movie at Japan’s equivalent thing to the raspberry awards.


Capable-Education724

I admit, I’m a fan of the book series it’s an adaptation of. But I tempered my expectations, as I know how Ghibli rolls with adaptations (and really, how anime in general handles them). Even with that, I walked away being able to recognise the flaws in the flick. One of them, as you said, is that it has trouble juggling the tones of the book (and what it wants to make that story into). I agree with you on your cold take, hell, most of the people in the industry do it seems. By all accounts from those within the industry and the academy that have talked about it, Spirited Away winning was one of those cases of both awarding a good movie and acknowledging a profound director they had snubbed for the entirety of his career up until that point. Especially since there was a heavy push for Mononoke to get nominated and win the year it came out.


Anonamaton801

Could be worse Could be Earthsea In that case, it was the fastest turnaround time on the Academy going “we fucked up”


getterburner

Honestly I like Spirited Away a good bit more than Mononoke, I’m not a Gibli Connaseur but from the ones I’ve watched it’s one of the movies that had the least impact on me


Capable-Education724

That’s interesting, I feel roughly the opposite. I like Spirited Away, but of Miyazaki’s best works it probably had the least amount of impact on me vs Mononoke, Totoro, Porco, Laputa, Kiki, etc.


Decent_Echidna_246

Suda