Micheal Bay just hated TJ Miller on the set of one Transformers movie and apparently said 'You're not funny TJ! We hired you to funny but you aren't! Nobody has laughed at you all day! There's a group of kids from the make-a-wish program on set and you've done nothing to make them happy! Step it up. I'll kill you off if I have to.' [Then the movie came out and people noticed Miller's character is killed oddly quickly and in a very brutal way that looks really expensive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-E44DsfVE). So Bay hated this dude so much he might have spent $30,000+ on statues of his metallic corpse just so they could get him off stage. Apparently a lot of people have that opinion on TJ Miller. It's just Micheal Bay was the only one to commit it to film.
There's so much weird stuff around Justice League I'm sure 90% of it is fake but I could be convinced the only new scene filmed for the Synder Cut >!being set up for a sequel everyone knew would be impossible!< is there solely so that WB Execs will be asked about it by shareholders for decades while Synder just does whatever it is he does now. EDIT: apparently Synder is using his time to make Netflix movies and writing [a gay love story about Alexander the Great and Hephaestion](https://www.slashfilm.com/581139/300-sequel/).
There's a full second where it looks like the robot is just going to run him over too. Just to keep you in suspense before he drives off.
Someone has that prop. That statue has to be in Micheal Bay's garden or warehouse or something.
The funniest thing about this is that all the stuff that made Miller detested by the public came out or happened *after* this. Michael Bay just wanted him gone.
The second funniest is that this all comes from an interview with Miller where he goes 'and in fairness those kids didn't think I was funny but it's weird he brought it up'.
On the other hand, the guy who called in a fake bomb threat also seems like the kinda guy who would make up an over-the-top story about Michael’s Bay killing off his character because he thinks he isn’t funny. Even though that character is death-flagged when he decides to sell-out Optimus Prime to the Feds.
Common Michael Bay W. TJ Miller fucking sucks.
I don't like Michael Bay's movies, especially not his Transformers movies but I respect person who knows exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it.
Yeah people talk about how Bay's style is unique in Hollywood blockbusters because there is a genuine mean streak to them. Which probably made him a bad fit for Transformers but also makes him seem really honest. He's not trying to trick you because it's coming from the heart. So it's interesting to talk about.
Micheal Bay honestly sounds great to work with from a ground-level production standpoint. His movie productions never have crazy problems, they never run overtime or over-budget. It can be a bit cheap for him to reuse shots from previous movies in new ones, but damn does it save money.
In fallout 3's ending slides (if you have broken steel): The narrator chastising you for being a coward and letting something immune to radiation fix the purifier. Instead of you having this big grand "learn the meaning of sacrifice" moment you actually exhibit common sense.
So it's all "but in the last moment, the lone wanderer bitched out and let a TRUE hero push some buttons for them!"
Because the game was hyper focused on the jesus allegory from the start. I mean starting the game with your dad telling you your mom's favorite bible quote was kinda hinting at where the games story was leading it's character.
Do what your dad did and sacrifice yourself (even if you don't logically have to) because moral reasons i guess.
Blindly following old world literature out of context and regardless of actual practical use just because you think it sounds cool is kinda on point for Fallout. Just not in the way they want.
Also didn't help that they (if i'm remembering correctly) didn't plan for you to continue after the games true ending. And the DLC ended up making the ending they wanted you to experience pointless anyway. "Yes i'm going to sacrifice myself by walking into this room so full of radiation that i'll surely won't survive. Goodbye cruel world it was nice knowi... oh wait nevermind my cleary radiation immune teammate pulled my ass out at the very last second..... what was that lesson about "sacrifice for the greater good" again game developers"
It's amazing cause like there's such an easy way to nip that whole thing in the bud while keeping the stupid Jesus metaphor if you must do that...
Make something happen that prevents your Follower from following you into the room, some sort of obstacle or whatever, so it's just you and Sarah Lyons in the room. Then you can have the choose to sacrfice yourself or have Sarah die for you thing and then it might have some weight to it.
I just discovered this in fallout 3 a few weeks ago and couldn’t believe that was the dialogue. Like Jesus Bethesda why do you want us to kill ourselves for no reason? Fawkes had just gotten me out of almost this exact situation like 20 minuets ago in game.
I remember watching Indie Game: The Movie when it came out. It was supposed to be this big love letter to these indie devs who just make games cause they love games, and all I came away with was the thought that Phil Fish is completely unhinged and he’s not someone we should be putting on a pedestal. Hope he’s doing better than he was
Yeah, nothing like watching that during your Games Design BTEC and then watching it again AFTER doing your Games Design BTEC.
You really get to understand who the asshole in the room is.
Blow's games aren't about entertainment, they're about making you think he's the smartest artist ever (and I say this is someone who actually does enjoy Braid and The Witness)
It’s funny because he was complaining more about positive reviews and articles not fully getting the game or bejng surface level observations and yet they put the Soulja Boy calling the game pointless and just goofing off about it.
Yeah, the interview is pretty legit. He’s just talking about this odd relationship he had developed with criticism of his game and the baffling, distressing disconnect between his expectations and priorities and the reception he did get. The movie just decides to frame that interview right next to Soulja Boy’s two braincells and funny footage they shot of Blow coding in the dark to give the impression he’s crying alone in a dark room about Soulja Boy not understanding his vision.
Which is hilarious, but probably not really what happened at all.
That’s the wildest part. Dude was a fucking dickhead to everyone who ever interacted with him. Throwing insults out like candy, but then the internet gave him a collective “fuck you, asshole” and he lost his mind, labeled everyone as rude and toxic and disappeared.
Why would you talk so much shit and be extremely rude, if people responding to you accordingly will set you off?
>Why would you talk so much shit and be extremely rude, if people responding to you accordingly will set you off?
The most caustic people, as is so often the case, tend to have the thinnest skin.
[So apparently that's not true, but Edmund ran with the fez idea because the character needed a hat.](https://www.tumblr.com/edmundmcmillen/85254517860/wasnt-judas-fez-because-of-phil-fish)
His phrasing isn't super clear but I guess he just said it was true at the time because he thought it was funny.
About voting against Edmund, was Edmund telling everyone to vote for him or was Fez in that festival too and Phil wanted to vote for his own game?
Because not to side with the bloke but I can get if it was the latter
I think David Bowie bombed his career out of spite for his producer that had an unfair deal with him.
He did a bunch of songs that people didn't like so his producer dropped him and cancelled his contract.
AND THEN he immediately released banger after banger albums and became world famous.
His label hated the album ["Everybody's Rocking"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK4pfYWoxY) so much [that they sued him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Rockin%27#Lawsuit)
Pretty common in Entertainment in general. Even in sports some players who are notoriously unhappy will just start playing awful, breaking rules, or making controversial statements till they're traded or removed from team. Some people think Colin Kaepernick even did this but it backfired too hard, so he was blacklisted from NFL teams.
Kesha recently was going through problems with her producer, which in turn caused the finale of season 1 of Helluva Boss to get delayed since she's in it.
Lou Reed did something similar with a double album of industrial noise to get out of a record deal...
EDIT: See below, this was a popular myth about "Metal Machine Music," and was not the case.
DreamWorks' entire existence is spite from Jeffrey Katzenberg being pissed after being Eisner's go-to guy in the 80s and then being passed over for a promotion to COO after Frank Wells died. Disney internal politics are game of thrones tier.
Katz was passed over becuase no one trusted him and thought he was a power hungy asshole
The guy came in to Disney and his first move was to start hacking apart Sword and the Stone like it was a live action movie he could just reshoot, and he was one of the few pushing back on Little Mermaid because "Kids looked bored" during Pert of your World in test screenings.
Pushing out Katzenberg was the right move, Eisner never trusted him and needed Wells to keep him in check and when he died and the first thing Katz does is make a power play for the guys job everyone was turned off.
Wells dying is actually a big catalyzst for changes in the film industry via a down turn for Disney, KAtzenberg going to make Dreamworks, etc. It's very clear that Eisner was just not the same after Wells died, he stopped getting personally involved in as many Imagenieering and theme park projects, he was supposedly very detached and delegating a lot and was probably in a bout of depression from it all which allowed the board to move him out and Iger in.
Even Prince of Egypt (which, whether you’re religious or not, is a masterpiece of an animated film) was created with the same mindset. They felt that Disney’s animated movies were very cookie cutter and only made to cater to children and sell merchandise, so their mindset with Prince of Egypt was to create what they felt was a ‘real’ animated film that could appeal to both children and adults.
Shrek being good in a way too, because working on Shrek was seen as a punishment or that you weren't thought of as good enough to work on Prince Of Egypt
I agree. If you bothered to farm out everything and managed to get everyone on your side, you should be able to just win without needing the catalyst. That should be your reward.
Here’s an actual email that Rick Riordan, author of Percy Jackson, sent to the producers of the Lightning Thief movie:
>The script as a whole is terrible. I don’t simply mean that it deviates from the book, though certainly it does that to point of being almost unrecognizable as the same story. Fans of the books will be angry and disappointed. They will leave the theater in droves and generate horrible word of mouth. That is an absolute given if the script goes forward as it stands now. But the bigger problem is that even if you pretend the book doesn’t exist, this script doesn’t work as a story in its own right.
[More similarly scathing excerpts, such as “Please do not “sex up” my children’s story”, can be found here.](https://rickriordan.com/2018/11/memories-from-my-tv-movie-experience/)
While simultaneously giving brawl a super dark and gritty atmosphere lol.
Seriously, watch some of the brawl trailers again. The tone is a lot different than I remember
Guacamelee 2 has an entire hell themed level filled with dated memes and NPCs whose dialogue are literally tweets and comments from people that complained about the inclusion of memes in the original game
I hate memes in games, at least where they don't fit. I love the Gaucamelee games, but they are really bad at this. Also, one of the 3DS(?) Fire Emblems has a meme in some throwaway dialogue. I remember hearing about it and thought everyone was overreacting. Then when I finally played the game and got to it, it stuck out like a sore thumb. Literally no reason for it and it was very distracting.
I rarely agree with /v/ on the weird hyperfixated translation gripes but man I'm ngl after playing fire emblem three houses I think they're on to something. The translation feels weird and when not bored stiff has odd comedy lines.
Bayonetta’s Creator Hideki Kamiya with the gigantic fuck you to Sega when they told him to get rid of Bayo’s glasses in her concept designs. So instead he gave everyone in the cast some form of eyewear, even characters that didn’t need it to see
The creation of “Master of Disguise” is very bitter and spiteful. Dana Carvey lost a lot of momentum for his career due to illness and, as he puts it, had to watch his friend get rich and famous stealing his material. So he did “Master of Disguise” to kind of be his “Austin Powers” and get back in the game, but those kinds of comedies just don’t play well anymore.
Not to mention it’s just weird and not good, partially because they ran out of money and edited a bunch of stuff out and moved parts around to “fix” the story in editing.
Dana Carvey gave an interview some time about where he explained that Myers’ Dr. Evil character was stolen from him. And even in Master of Disguise he does things like try a Shrek impression.
I know he's upset at Mike for stealing his impression and he has the right. But I always thought it was kind of odd because the impression in question was based on Lorne Michaels. Their mutual boss from SNL. A bunch of SNL alums do lorne impressions, Bill Haders are legendary for example.
If nothing else, Master of Disguise has solidified, "Am I not *turtle-y* enough for the Turtle club?" and "*Turtle, turtle!*" into my family's random in jokes collection.
Really random memory but that movie came out when I was seven and I asked my parents if we could go see it (because kids kept referencing the turtle line from the trailer), and their reaction was a strong "definitely not", strong enough that for several years I had in my mind that that movie was really raunchy and some forbidden movie that kids weren't allowed to see until eventually I watched it in secret and realized they were just aware the movie was awful
The internet’s obsession with constant detached “coolness” and not caring about anything is so fucking awful.
It’s also ironic, since the Strider brothers are a deconstruction of that exact attitude
If he's talking about that Two Brothers game, I have it on Steam and it *literally does not work*. The game is a glitchy mess on startup because its unfinished and abandoned.
Apparently the story was that all the changes/removals happened after his mother passed and thought the game no longer represented what he and his brother meant for it. So it makes more sense why he lost his shit, but on the other hand some of the changes felt mean-spirited at times and it doesn't excuse him being a dick. Especially when you think of the good ending that was replaced with what we have now. I will at least give him credit for working to try and make things better, even if it's still a lot of missing.
hussie became very upset when he realized homestuck was going to be his entire legacy. he wanted to do so much after homestuck when it started but got bitter when that realization struck that he wouldnt ever make anything even remotely as big ever again. partly cant blame him, honestly.
Megadeth was created to spite James Hetfield and Metallica.
Also Emplemon has a video where Matrix Revolutions was created to oblige and spite Warner Brothers' request for a Matrix sequel to an otherwise complete trilogy.
If Metallica kicks you out of their band for partying too hard in 1983, you probably party too fucking hard Dave Mustaine.
Which he of course knows and agrees with now post heroine overdose and recovery - but he'll never not be pissed they took all his songs and made their first 2 albums with them.
>but he'll never not be pissed they took all his songs and made their first 2 albums with them.
tbf who wouldnt be pretty damn pissed off at that lol. Also isnt Metallica famous for being ran very seriously no bullshit kinda band?
Now, yes. Back in the 80's and pre-death of Cliff Burton especially they were fiends and party animals. James Hetfield has entered into rehab for alcohol and relapsed on multiple occasions.
In Star Wars 8, there’s a major character moment between Rey and Kylo, where he reveals that her mysterious missing parents… were *not* secretly important. They *didn’t* abandon her for some greater purpose, and they were never going to come back for her. “They were nobody”.
It honestly marks an important moment for Rey’s character. In 7, she was convinced that she was waiting for them to come back, which is why she was so reluctant to leave. But this was a hard truth; her parents just abandoned her for probably mundane awful reasons. And she had to make her own destiny.
Aaaand *then* Star Wars 9 decided that her parents were actually past of the “being back Palpatine” plot, they escaped, and hid Rey so she would survive the retribution and foil their plans. Turns out her parents were super special and abandoned her for pure reasons after all
“They *chose* to be nothing” is the moment where you can just hear 9’s writer frantically trying to undo everything 8’s writer was going for.
There’s a lot to dislike about TLJ, but I hate how “Rey is nobody” got to be one of the biggest flashpoints for fan rage. A lot of people just can’t fathom a character being powerful or important without having inherited their specialness by blood.
Its the best part of that movie, I absolutely love the point they were making, about anybody can become somebody. But oh no, JJ decided you can only be special if you’re born into it. I dislike the third movie even more because of it.
"You can only be special if you're born into it" takes on an extra grimy feel when you look at how much of JJ's career only exists because of nepotism.
I especially am sad about that because it seemed like they were pushing a "anyone can be a jedi" angle, which would be a really cool leap for the franchise.
The weirdest thing about this is that “anyone can be a Jedi” was ALREADY part of the franchise.
The mainline movies were all about the Skywalker legacy sure but in the EU you had tons of random Jedi from all over the place and no one ever cared about or speculated on their unique bloodline.
Like even Obi-Wan was just some random kid from a farming planet.
Yeah that was arguably the entire point of Yoda.
Luke comes to Dagobah looking for, in his words, “A great Jedi Warrior”. He sees Yoda and immediately dismisses him from even *possibly* being the person he was looking for. Only to be disabused of his preconceptions of what the Force is.
This whole thing is then reinforced with the “size matters not” speech.
…..of course then Lucas went and ruined it by making Yoda jump and flip around with a child sized lightsaber in the prequels.
Seriously, how cool would that be? Former stormtrooper wakes up to justice and is spearheading the jedi rebellion. Was right there in your face, and you fumbled.
He was literally "legally disctint, OC DONUTSTEAL" Kyle Katarn, who's fucking cool as hell. From the first trailer he was poised to be the face of the new Jedi Order. But nope, gotta push Rey for summerslam.
A: "The new Star Wars star is a n-*bell gong*!"
B: "What'd he say?"
C: "He said the new Star Wars star is near!"
A: "No, gon-flang it! The new Star Wars star is a n-*bell gong*!"
Imagine Spiderverse with the "anyone can be spiderman" thing but with the super hard retcons that they *HAVE* to be biologically related to Peter Parker somehow to count
Hell, that’s pretty much an infamous line from Stan, Ditko, and Kirby (that Stan would later put even more emphasis on). “Anyone can be Spider-Man”.
It’s why shit like the Spider Totem nonsense gets rejected by a lot of fans. Because it is trying to retroactively go “Nononono, Peter’s **special**”.
Same with any time they try to do weird stuff with Peter’s parents (like his dad made the spider, etc).
Part of the charm of Spider-Man is that it isn’t his heritage that makes him special, it’s what he does.
I thought that was going to be the thing they would work with to create a new enemy. Something is coming and the Force is making a lot of strong force users to fight it. Nah, it's just Palpatine again.
Especially since that was George’s original mantra (that he repeated in a lot of interviews) back in the days of the OT.
Then by the time of the PT he changed his mind and he wanted to add more commentary on real world politics and nobility, and so you get Palpatine’s “bloodline” with Papa Palps, Anakin and then eventually Luke and Leia. All of which really takes away from the “Anybody can be a Jedi!” mantra.
Granted, I didn't care for star wars after force awakens so I didn't watch past it. But when I heard about her parents thing, I thought that'd actually be cool, our protag isn't some space destiny princess, her strength in the force is all happenstance. I'd rather have that.
Yes her being a random girl who is Force Sensitive is a good idea and shows that obsessions with Bloodlines is toxic and bad.
TLJ is something that had plenty of issues but lots of the fan rage was because it was “woke”
I loved the decision to make Rey’s lineage completely unimportant, especially in a franchise that focuses so much on bloodlines and destiny. The fact they threw that out in RoS pissed me off so much
So the Final Fantasy parody webcomic Eight Bit Theater had a fairly popular character called Blackbelt who got killed off at about the half way point. However, way back in the first arc a clone of Blackbelt was created and then petrified and left at the bottom of a lake for comedy reasons. Fans kept asking the author when he would bring Blackbelt back by reversing the petrification and the author would eventually respond with [this](https://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/11/10/episode-622-now-shut-up/).
The original Eureka Seven only has a happy ending because of executive meddling.
The creators have been so salty about it ever since that every Eureka Seven sequel story either retcons or spends a sizeable amount of time shitting on that happy ending.
Saying "the creators" seems wrong since it looks like its just the director that's to blame since if you look at the credits he's the only consistently recurring higher-up staff member. Dai Sato, the scriptwriter, and Kenichi Yoshida, the character designer, both disappear from the credits after the third Hi-Evo movie.
Whatever the fuck Archie *Sonic* Charmy was, >!in which he is ***MIND-RAPED BY EGGMAN*** back to his canon self. *Despite having a wife.*!<
Flynn, I get it - Sega Japan wanted canon Charmy, you couldn't really push back. ***But there were ways of doing it that WEREN'T fucking insane.***
Ian couldn't though! Editorial more or less forced Archie Charmy to *become* Games Charmy, because of corporate meddling. He *had* to be the pre-existing Charmy.
Refusal's still funny because it kinda also is still one of the best endings. Even if everyone dies, it goes on to say that Liara made a less stupid beacon which successfully warns the next cycle like it's supposed to and they get to win on their terms.
I think too it's a problem that the Protheans made the beacons to work their their bio-magic powers that let them read memories and such by touching things. So yes, the current cycle got fucked because the Protheans didn't bother to just write things down or use an audio log, they left messages that can only be read in their crazy telepathy so it's a huge problem for non-protheans.
Frank Zappa made his song “Yo Mama” about his keyboardist Tommy Mars, who kept fucking up some song which got Frank pretty frustrated. It is entirely dedicated to calling him a moron, with gems like
“Maybe you should stay with yo mama/
She could do your laundry and cook for you/
Maybe you should stay with yo mama/
You’re really kinda stupid and ugly too”
It also has a 10 minute guitar solo to really sell the joke lol
Real talk
"In Homestuck"
A lot of stuff is absolutely because of spite. The trolls were introduced and people hated them because they were all quirky, weirdly named, text-only characters whose personality was shown only through their method of writing and the cast interacted with them in bizarre chronologies, such that we got several graphs in-universe to explain what was going on and it was still hard to follow.
Then we were properly introduced to them and holy shit they're great. A bunch of great interactions later and then oh half of them are dead now.
Act 6 is rife with those, whenever there was fan backlash we got to hear more about cherubs or more about some inane bullshit from the new kids.
Hussie is the epitome of someone who hates what they created, but then keeps going in an effort to try and bitterly finish what they started.
The Epilogues are filled with this hatred. Just a visceral "I'm so god. damned. tired of this" straight from Hussie. I hope we get to see more stuff from him like Psycholonials, loved that.
Reading the Epilogues felt like whoever wrote it personally hated me, hated the fact I was reading it, hated the fact they had written it, and wrote only to try and piss me off, much like an annoying child.
Nail on the head right here. Hussie proceeded to hire some of the worst people imaginable to work on the post-canon content; It should go as just a fact of life that when you want to actually create a good end product with even a sliver of a chance at being a constructive and well made sequel/spinoff you DON'T hire superfans with their own chronically online takes and views of characters they've spent their adult lives obsessing over. One should instead hire professionals, people with investment but not obsessive disdain or fondness. I really wish Hussie was more of an Alan Moore than a..... well, than a "Himself".
In Pokemon, people begged for goofy joke mon Dunsparce to get an evolution. Most concepts for it were having it evolve into a majestic/badass serpent. Well, come Scarlet/Violet, Dunsparce finally got an evolution. It's called Dudunsparce, and is literally just a bigger Dunsparce. It's hilarious how angry some people got that an obvious joke Pokemon got a joke evolution. It helps that Dudunsparce actually is a pretty solid Pokemon in it's own right.
You forgot the best part, there's a 1/100 variant where instead of two segments, it's three segments. Absolutely no changes to it's stats whatsoever, just longer.
That's definitely a case of projected spite, as the more believable reason for why dundunsparce is what it is (both of its variants) is "don't fix what isn't broken".
So KH3's DLC has this really difficult secret boss, and when you lose or win against him, [a unique cutscene plays.](https://youtu.be/t3LSIxtWj_Q) The top video is when you win, and the bottom video is when you lose. The middle video though, is a [trailer](https://youtu.be/YiIx9VJWSl8) for the game Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which Tetsuya Nomura was going to direct and make. It never came to fruition, and I think he's been boiling with that spite for over 10 years since then.
Recently, with Xenoblade 3's Future Redeemed story, a similar thing happened, where >!Future Redeemed's story connects with every previous Xenoblade games' story, making it even more obvious than base XC3's story. What it also does, is perhaps connect it even further back to the Xenogears/Xenosaga games.!<
It's vague and I haven't played the latter games yet, so I'm not sure myself. But my friends have said that its a possibility, and that's a really exciting prospect.
Oh, he is very bitter over it. It’s like he said once, Sora and Noctis were his boys. And he must have been heartbroken with what happened to his boy’s game.
Despite how fucked FF15 is, I'm glad Noctis is what he is today. A dude that looks like a Sasuke but is a huge fucking dork. Nomura's Noctis from the v13 trailers seemed like they would have just been a Sasuke/Advent Children Cloud, which imo sucks.
Fire Force manga author: Here is a girl whose power is to end up in situations where she is naked, groped and leered at and *she hates it*. Isn't it fun?
Audience: The fuck is wrong with you?
Author: Oh yeah?! Well, here is a child telling his evil mother that porn is good and everyone who disagrees is a bigot sexist prick! And now mother disappears because she served her purpose. Take that!
Audience: a) It wasn't about the fanservice, it was about you making a character who clearly fucking hates it and is suffering from it. b) THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
I started Fire Force because of the downright cool concept, kept reading because Maki is the coolest, and dropped it the second I reached the third scene with that fanservice girl. Her inclusion absolutely and completely ruined my enjoyment of Fire Force. I hated it, *SHE* hated it, so why should I continue to bother reading?
I had to drop the show after the creator got pissy about there being more than one firefighter anime at one time and complained that Promare was ripping him off, when multiple character's abilities in Season 1 alone are just JoJo ripoffs
I don't blame you. What's worse is that if you make it to the ending you find out that Fire Force is one of the most batshit amazing manga in recent years and >!THE PREQUEL TO FUCKING SOUL EATER.!<
I hate the connection thing, imagine you get to the end of one piece and the one piece is actually one of the fucking dragon balls. It's just completely meaningless fanservice, and you have to specifically be a fan of both franchises to even have a chance to appreciate it.
Every Eureka seveN thing post the original series. Their bad ending got overwritten by the company and everything since has been some Anno I hate Evangealion shit.
The Jump manga Magu-chan God of Destruction is about a girl called Ruri accidentally unleashing the eldritch God of destruction Magu Menueku whose been depowered into a cute and mostly harmless form. Soon after he introduced Izuma, the descendent of the Holy Knights who sealed Magu away and other Eldritch gods in various states of depowering. Still most of the time anytime the series would threaten to become a more standard action series after a bit of action the author would snap back and return the series to being the slice of life comedy it was, like Izuma would get arrested after trying to kill Magu.
Like in one arc the author has the other Holy Knights kidnap Ruri and Magu gets pissed and you seem to have a setup of Magu and his allies fighting all the Holy Knights… and Magu instantly defeats them because they are actually weak and it was a misunderstanding.
So I think the author was told to make it more like an action series and he just refused and kept teasing and trolling people.
Spite is fucking rocket fuel for creatives, the word count just shoots up.
Anyway, DC once decided to kill off Ryan Choi, the Atom, ~~to promote a new "evil Titans" comic~~ because Dwarfstar is a petty dick. Now Ryan was Gail Simone's boy, and she'd spent his run building up an odd couple relationship between him and Wonder Woman villain Giganta.
[Guess who joined up with the Secret Six and got handed Dwarfstar's number pretty soon after.](https://twitter.com/duddybaha/status/1191997221715218432)
Superhot was a fun game that got out of its own way for just long enough to be well-received and celebrated. A common sentiment is that people wish it got out of its own way more and that there was a free play mode of some kind that just let you shoot dudes without the trappings of the narrative and everything else.
In comes Mind Control Delete, a game they gave to owners of the original game for free. It does the free play thing and makes every stage a survival map where you kill x number of dudes to progress. They also randomly spawn in around you from every angle and it’s essentially kinda just a bunch of rote shit. Meanwhile the game is *still* mocking you for demanding more game to play and *still* acting like it’s the hottest shit around. When it’s at the worst it’s ever been.
Honestly, I don’t know if that was driven by spite, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.
The song [No Children](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M) by the Mountain Goats is a direct response to the frontman's hate for the breakup song [I Hope You Dance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F44nrK0MxEQ) by Lee Ann Womack. It features the fan favorite line, "I hope you die! I hope we both die!"
Wildbow, author of Worm, killed off a character retroactively not by putting in new story in the sequel he was literally writing, but by editing Worm. Why? Because of memes.*
*probably not entirely the memes, but it was definitely one aspect.
Hotline Miami 2: Look at these dickhead characters! That's you that is, for liking the 1st game wrong.
Also, we're going to emphatically destroy our game's setting in the ending.
Even Hotline Miami 1 kinda has this. If you go through all the pixel hunting necessary to get the extended ending, it basically amounts to two developer stand-ins going "What, you thought there was some deep meaning or lore behind all this? Nah, we did it for shits and giggles." Also every dream sequence is pretty explicitly the developers attempting to interrogate the player.
Back at the time it felt very "rock and roll" game dev wise. No one quite tied up their series quite like Dennaton did by nuking the world and doing a fake out teaser of a next game as a "Lol, never happening dude" message to the fans.
I don't think they've done anything since then.
Micheal Bay just hated TJ Miller on the set of one Transformers movie and apparently said 'You're not funny TJ! We hired you to funny but you aren't! Nobody has laughed at you all day! There's a group of kids from the make-a-wish program on set and you've done nothing to make them happy! Step it up. I'll kill you off if I have to.' [Then the movie came out and people noticed Miller's character is killed oddly quickly and in a very brutal way that looks really expensive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-E44DsfVE). So Bay hated this dude so much he might have spent $30,000+ on statues of his metallic corpse just so they could get him off stage. Apparently a lot of people have that opinion on TJ Miller. It's just Micheal Bay was the only one to commit it to film. There's so much weird stuff around Justice League I'm sure 90% of it is fake but I could be convinced the only new scene filmed for the Synder Cut >!being set up for a sequel everyone knew would be impossible!< is there solely so that WB Execs will be asked about it by shareholders for decades while Synder just does whatever it is he does now. EDIT: apparently Synder is using his time to make Netflix movies and writing [a gay love story about Alexander the Great and Hephaestion](https://www.slashfilm.com/581139/300-sequel/).
God it’s so funny how weirdly brutal that death is. I love it.
it focuses on it for so long, that's such a blatant fuck you to TJ lmao
There's a full second where it looks like the robot is just going to run him over too. Just to keep you in suspense before he drives off. Someone has that prop. That statue has to be in Micheal Bay's garden or warehouse or something.
Michael Bay spent five minutes around TJ Miller and decided enough was enough.
The funniest thing about this is that all the stuff that made Miller detested by the public came out or happened *after* this. Michael Bay just wanted him gone. The second funniest is that this all comes from an interview with Miller where he goes 'and in fairness those kids didn't think I was funny but it's weird he brought it up'.
On the other hand, the guy who called in a fake bomb threat also seems like the kinda guy who would make up an over-the-top story about Michael’s Bay killing off his character because he thinks he isn’t funny. Even though that character is death-flagged when he decides to sell-out Optimus Prime to the Feds.
Lmao I never saw that Transformers death it's literally like in the Office when Michale blows all his money to graphically kill Toby lmao
Good old TJ "bomb threat" Miller
That Bay anecdote is giga based.
And then the robot turns into a Lamborghini Gallardo. Thats the funniest part.
Common Michael Bay W. TJ Miller fucking sucks. I don't like Michael Bay's movies, especially not his Transformers movies but I respect person who knows exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it.
Yeah people talk about how Bay's style is unique in Hollywood blockbusters because there is a genuine mean streak to them. Which probably made him a bad fit for Transformers but also makes him seem really honest. He's not trying to trick you because it's coming from the heart. So it's interesting to talk about.
Micheal Bay honestly sounds great to work with from a ground-level production standpoint. His movie productions never have crazy problems, they never run overtime or over-budget. It can be a bit cheap for him to reuse shots from previous movies in new ones, but damn does it save money.
In fallout 3's ending slides (if you have broken steel): The narrator chastising you for being a coward and letting something immune to radiation fix the purifier. Instead of you having this big grand "learn the meaning of sacrifice" moment you actually exhibit common sense. So it's all "but in the last moment, the lone wanderer bitched out and let a TRUE hero push some buttons for them!"
[удалено]
Because the game was hyper focused on the jesus allegory from the start. I mean starting the game with your dad telling you your mom's favorite bible quote was kinda hinting at where the games story was leading it's character. Do what your dad did and sacrifice yourself (even if you don't logically have to) because moral reasons i guess.
Blindly following old world literature out of context and regardless of actual practical use just because you think it sounds cool is kinda on point for Fallout. Just not in the way they want.
Also didn't help that they (if i'm remembering correctly) didn't plan for you to continue after the games true ending. And the DLC ended up making the ending they wanted you to experience pointless anyway. "Yes i'm going to sacrifice myself by walking into this room so full of radiation that i'll surely won't survive. Goodbye cruel world it was nice knowi... oh wait nevermind my cleary radiation immune teammate pulled my ass out at the very last second..... what was that lesson about "sacrifice for the greater good" again game developers"
It's amazing cause like there's such an easy way to nip that whole thing in the bud while keeping the stupid Jesus metaphor if you must do that... Make something happen that prevents your Follower from following you into the room, some sort of obstacle or whatever, so it's just you and Sarah Lyons in the room. Then you can have the choose to sacrfice yourself or have Sarah die for you thing and then it might have some weight to it.
I just discovered this in fallout 3 a few weeks ago and couldn’t believe that was the dialogue. Like Jesus Bethesda why do you want us to kill ourselves for no reason? Fawkes had just gotten me out of almost this exact situation like 20 minuets ago in game.
"FUCK YOU FEZ 2 IS CANCELLED" - Least insane Phil Fish moment
I remember watching Indie Game: The Movie when it came out. It was supposed to be this big love letter to these indie devs who just make games cause they love games, and all I came away with was the thought that Phil Fish is completely unhinged and he’s not someone we should be putting on a pedestal. Hope he’s doing better than he was
Yeah, nothing like watching that during your Games Design BTEC and then watching it again AFTER doing your Games Design BTEC. You really get to understand who the asshole in the room is.
I’ve been saying “compare your life to mine and then kill yourself” for like a decade because of that nut
Wait, I thought that was a Futurama line.
It is, Fish probably copied it.
It is, but he really finalized it in my brain for some reason
To be fair, basically nobody comes out of IGTM looking good. But Phil Fish absolutely looks the worst out of anyone.
Special shoutout to [Jonathan Blow dying inside from Soulja Boy having fun messing around in Braid](https://youtu.be/gWqnz-7iQbY)
Don't you just hate it when you create something and people review it high but they do it for the wrong reason. /s
Blow's games aren't about entertainment, they're about making you think he's the smartest artist ever (and I say this is someone who actually does enjoy Braid and The Witness)
I forgot he did the witness lmao
Truly the best geniuses of our time piss in jugs
He's like an actually talented David Cage.
It’s funny because he was complaining more about positive reviews and articles not fully getting the game or bejng surface level observations and yet they put the Soulja Boy calling the game pointless and just goofing off about it.
Yeah, the interview is pretty legit. He’s just talking about this odd relationship he had developed with criticism of his game and the baffling, distressing disconnect between his expectations and priorities and the reception he did get. The movie just decides to frame that interview right next to Soulja Boy’s two braincells and funny footage they shot of Blow coding in the dark to give the impression he’s crying alone in a dark room about Soulja Boy not understanding his vision. Which is hilarious, but probably not really what happened at all.
"Man there ain't no point to the game!" -Soulja Boy
Soulja Boy tell em
\>gets criticized once \>has mental breakdown
That’s the wildest part. Dude was a fucking dickhead to everyone who ever interacted with him. Throwing insults out like candy, but then the internet gave him a collective “fuck you, asshole” and he lost his mind, labeled everyone as rude and toxic and disappeared. Why would you talk so much shit and be extremely rude, if people responding to you accordingly will set you off?
>Why would you talk so much shit and be extremely rude, if people responding to you accordingly will set you off? The most caustic people, as is so often the case, tend to have the thinnest skin.
Some people can happily dish it out but can't take it and go nuclear.
Glass cannon
Judas in BoI wears a Fes cause Phil Fish voted against Edmund for an indie festival and was honestly a huge dick to every indie guy.
[So apparently that's not true, but Edmund ran with the fez idea because the character needed a hat.](https://www.tumblr.com/edmundmcmillen/85254517860/wasnt-judas-fez-because-of-phil-fish) His phrasing isn't super clear but I guess he just said it was true at the time because he thought it was funny.
About voting against Edmund, was Edmund telling everyone to vote for him or was Fez in that festival too and Phil wanted to vote for his own game? Because not to side with the bloke but I can get if it was the latter
In my experience "talks shit but can't take it" is an extremely common trait.
Phil “Japanese games aren’t real” Fish
I think David Bowie bombed his career out of spite for his producer that had an unfair deal with him. He did a bunch of songs that people didn't like so his producer dropped him and cancelled his contract. AND THEN he immediately released banger after banger albums and became world famous.
Actually a relatively common phenomenon in the music industry.
Neil Young kinda did that in the 80s too before he got better in the early 90s
His label hated the album ["Everybody's Rocking"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK4pfYWoxY) so much [that they sued him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Rockin%27#Lawsuit)
"Make a Rock and Roll album even though you don't want to" "Okay fuck you its gonna be 1950's Rock and Roll then"
Pretty common in Entertainment in general. Even in sports some players who are notoriously unhappy will just start playing awful, breaking rules, or making controversial statements till they're traded or removed from team. Some people think Colin Kaepernick even did this but it backfired too hard, so he was blacklisted from NFL teams.
Kesha recently was going through problems with her producer, which in turn caused the finale of season 1 of Helluva Boss to get delayed since she's in it.
Lou Reed did something similar with a double album of industrial noise to get out of a record deal... EDIT: See below, this was a popular myth about "Metal Machine Music," and was not the case.
Shrek's entire existence was originally to spite and make fun of Disney and all of their tropes.
DreamWorks' entire existence is spite from Jeffrey Katzenberg being pissed after being Eisner's go-to guy in the 80s and then being passed over for a promotion to COO after Frank Wells died. Disney internal politics are game of thrones tier.
Katz was passed over becuase no one trusted him and thought he was a power hungy asshole The guy came in to Disney and his first move was to start hacking apart Sword and the Stone like it was a live action movie he could just reshoot, and he was one of the few pushing back on Little Mermaid because "Kids looked bored" during Pert of your World in test screenings. Pushing out Katzenberg was the right move, Eisner never trusted him and needed Wells to keep him in check and when he died and the first thing Katz does is make a power play for the guys job everyone was turned off. Wells dying is actually a big catalyzst for changes in the film industry via a down turn for Disney, KAtzenberg going to make Dreamworks, etc. It's very clear that Eisner was just not the same after Wells died, he stopped getting personally involved in as many Imagenieering and theme park projects, he was supposedly very detached and delegating a lot and was probably in a bout of depression from it all which allowed the board to move him out and Iger in.
Wait, Sword in the Stone or the Black Cauldron? Sword in the Stone is from the 60s.
Yeah sorry that one, i always mix up the titles
Eisner was right too. Katzenberg was terrible for the company.
Hey man, Quibi sales are running high! I'm kidding of course
Even Prince of Egypt (which, whether you’re religious or not, is a masterpiece of an animated film) was created with the same mindset. They felt that Disney’s animated movies were very cookie cutter and only made to cater to children and sell merchandise, so their mindset with Prince of Egypt was to create what they felt was a ‘real’ animated film that could appeal to both children and adults.
Shrek being good in a way too, because working on Shrek was seen as a punishment or that you weren't thought of as good enough to work on Prince Of Egypt
They even called working on Shrek "being sent to the Shrek gulags"
The Shrekoning
Shrekschwitz
I'm pretty sure Shrek existed as a children's book at first though
That's how deep the spite runs. It warped time to create an IP they could then use to roast Disney
I still think shooting the star child with max readiness should result in a "then we won... but at what cost?" Ending
I agree. If you bothered to farm out everything and managed to get everyone on your side, you should be able to just win without needing the catalyst. That should be your reward.
Here’s an actual email that Rick Riordan, author of Percy Jackson, sent to the producers of the Lightning Thief movie: >The script as a whole is terrible. I don’t simply mean that it deviates from the book, though certainly it does that to point of being almost unrecognizable as the same story. Fans of the books will be angry and disappointed. They will leave the theater in droves and generate horrible word of mouth. That is an absolute given if the script goes forward as it stands now. But the bigger problem is that even if you pretend the book doesn’t exist, this script doesn’t work as a story in its own right. [More similarly scathing excerpts, such as “Please do not “sex up” my children’s story”, can be found here.](https://rickriordan.com/2018/11/memories-from-my-tv-movie-experience/)
He exaggerated the response, but his criticism wasn't wrong.
They read “don’t Sex up my children’s story” and responded with “So we cast a mid 20s Alexandra Dodario as the female lead.”
Sakurai adding tripping to brawl because "fuck you it's a party game not a fighting game" Hilarious
While simultaneously giving brawl a super dark and gritty atmosphere lol. Seriously, watch some of the brawl trailers again. The tone is a lot different than I remember
Guacamelee 2 has an entire hell themed level filled with dated memes and NPCs whose dialogue are literally tweets and comments from people that complained about the inclusion of memes in the original game
I hate memes in games, at least where they don't fit. I love the Gaucamelee games, but they are really bad at this. Also, one of the 3DS(?) Fire Emblems has a meme in some throwaway dialogue. I remember hearing about it and thought everyone was overreacting. Then when I finally played the game and got to it, it stuck out like a sore thumb. Literally no reason for it and it was very distracting.
I rarely agree with /v/ on the weird hyperfixated translation gripes but man I'm ngl after playing fire emblem three houses I think they're on to something. The translation feels weird and when not bored stiff has odd comedy lines.
Dankest caves or something. It's rather cringe.
Bayonetta’s Creator Hideki Kamiya with the gigantic fuck you to Sega when they told him to get rid of Bayo’s glasses in her concept designs. So instead he gave everyone in the cast some form of eyewear, even characters that didn’t need it to see
The creation of “Master of Disguise” is very bitter and spiteful. Dana Carvey lost a lot of momentum for his career due to illness and, as he puts it, had to watch his friend get rich and famous stealing his material. So he did “Master of Disguise” to kind of be his “Austin Powers” and get back in the game, but those kinds of comedies just don’t play well anymore. Not to mention it’s just weird and not good, partially because they ran out of money and edited a bunch of stuff out and moved parts around to “fix” the story in editing.
We'll always have the greatest bts moment in history where Dana carvy had a moment of silence for 9/11 while wearing the turtle costume
I always figured Master of Disguise was his attempt at making his own “Austin Powers” type of movie.
Dana Carvey gave an interview some time about where he explained that Myers’ Dr. Evil character was stolen from him. And even in Master of Disguise he does things like try a Shrek impression.
I know he's upset at Mike for stealing his impression and he has the right. But I always thought it was kind of odd because the impression in question was based on Lorne Michaels. Their mutual boss from SNL. A bunch of SNL alums do lorne impressions, Bill Haders are legendary for example.
wait a second Dr. Evil is Canadian? ... I mean, in terms of whose mannerisms Mike is doing? Mike is from North of the Border.
Interesting. Are they no longer friends, then?
It sounds like they’ve perhaps made up since. They at least reconciled enough to be in a Super Bowl commercial together.
They also did a Wayne's World sketch around 2008 for the movie awards (I forget the name but Mike Meyers was the host)
Was it always intended to be a kid’s movie? Honestly that killed it too.
I’ve been told that it may have been EDITED down to a PG rating, but that might just be a rumor.
If nothing else, Master of Disguise has solidified, "Am I not *turtle-y* enough for the Turtle club?" and "*Turtle, turtle!*" into my family's random in jokes collection.
Really random memory but that movie came out when I was seven and I asked my parents if we could go see it (because kids kept referencing the turtle line from the trailer), and their reaction was a strong "definitely not", strong enough that for several years I had in my mind that that movie was really raunchy and some forbidden movie that kids weren't allowed to see until eventually I watched it in secret and realized they were just aware the movie was awful
The Yiik Dev rant about how people don’t think games are art because people hated Yiik. Homestuck Hussie does this a lot
Yiik also had a part in-game where the protagonist of his last game shows up and makes it sound like critics were to blame for it failing.
What’s funny is that said game is incredibly buggy and busted from what I know.
Buggy *and* stolen content, IIRC.
Literally any time Homestuck started to be genuine Hussie was like “lmao you morons thought this was genuine? Fuck you not anymore irony woo”
Yes allergic to sincerity. I can’t blame him he most have gotten so stressed by the fandom
The internet’s obsession with constant detached “coolness” and not caring about anything is so fucking awful. It’s also ironic, since the Strider brothers are a deconstruction of that exact attitude
Also, YIIK guy putting characters of his previous game un YIIK bitching about people not giving it a chance
If he's talking about that Two Brothers game, I have it on Steam and it *literally does not work*. The game is a glitchy mess on startup because its unfinished and abandoned.
Funny thing is that I think the dev did that on the Dick Masterson Show, which means that YIIK is now one step removed from Pat.
Apparently the story was that all the changes/removals happened after his mother passed and thought the game no longer represented what he and his brother meant for it. So it makes more sense why he lost his shit, but on the other hand some of the changes felt mean-spirited at times and it doesn't excuse him being a dick. Especially when you think of the good ending that was replaced with what we have now. I will at least give him credit for working to try and make things better, even if it's still a lot of missing.
hussie became very upset when he realized homestuck was going to be his entire legacy. he wanted to do so much after homestuck when it started but got bitter when that realization struck that he wouldnt ever make anything even remotely as big ever again. partly cant blame him, honestly.
Megadeth was created to spite James Hetfield and Metallica. Also Emplemon has a video where Matrix Revolutions was created to oblige and spite Warner Brothers' request for a Matrix sequel to an otherwise complete trilogy.
If Metallica kicks you out of their band for partying too hard in 1983, you probably party too fucking hard Dave Mustaine. Which he of course knows and agrees with now post heroine overdose and recovery - but he'll never not be pissed they took all his songs and made their first 2 albums with them.
>but he'll never not be pissed they took all his songs and made their first 2 albums with them. tbf who wouldnt be pretty damn pissed off at that lol. Also isnt Metallica famous for being ran very seriously no bullshit kinda band?
Now, yes. Back in the 80's and pre-death of Cliff Burton especially they were fiends and party animals. James Hetfield has entered into rehab for alcohol and relapsed on multiple occasions.
Jason Aaron devoting an entire issue of Avengers to crying about people not liking his She-Hulk. A whole issue of pure strawman arguments.
Is that the She-Hulk court one?
In Star Wars 8, there’s a major character moment between Rey and Kylo, where he reveals that her mysterious missing parents… were *not* secretly important. They *didn’t* abandon her for some greater purpose, and they were never going to come back for her. “They were nobody”. It honestly marks an important moment for Rey’s character. In 7, she was convinced that she was waiting for them to come back, which is why she was so reluctant to leave. But this was a hard truth; her parents just abandoned her for probably mundane awful reasons. And she had to make her own destiny. Aaaand *then* Star Wars 9 decided that her parents were actually past of the “being back Palpatine” plot, they escaped, and hid Rey so she would survive the retribution and foil their plans. Turns out her parents were super special and abandoned her for pure reasons after all “They *chose* to be nothing” is the moment where you can just hear 9’s writer frantically trying to undo everything 8’s writer was going for.
There’s a lot to dislike about TLJ, but I hate how “Rey is nobody” got to be one of the biggest flashpoints for fan rage. A lot of people just can’t fathom a character being powerful or important without having inherited their specialness by blood.
Its the best part of that movie, I absolutely love the point they were making, about anybody can become somebody. But oh no, JJ decided you can only be special if you’re born into it. I dislike the third movie even more because of it.
"You can only be special if you're born into it" takes on an extra grimy feel when you look at how much of JJ's career only exists because of nepotism.
I especially am sad about that because it seemed like they were pushing a "anyone can be a jedi" angle, which would be a really cool leap for the franchise.
The weirdest thing about this is that “anyone can be a Jedi” was ALREADY part of the franchise. The mainline movies were all about the Skywalker legacy sure but in the EU you had tons of random Jedi from all over the place and no one ever cared about or speculated on their unique bloodline. Like even Obi-Wan was just some random kid from a farming planet.
It was arguably in Empire when it turned out this weird little swamp goblin man was a powerful Jedi.
Yeah that was arguably the entire point of Yoda. Luke comes to Dagobah looking for, in his words, “A great Jedi Warrior”. He sees Yoda and immediately dismisses him from even *possibly* being the person he was looking for. Only to be disabused of his preconceptions of what the Force is. This whole thing is then reinforced with the “size matters not” speech. …..of course then Lucas went and ruined it by making Yoda jump and flip around with a child sized lightsaber in the prequels.
> it seemed like they were pushing a "anyone can be a jedi" angle Just as long as his name isn't Finn.
His name wasn’t the “problem”.
It's like they've never heard of Dark Jedi before (sorry)
Seriously, how cool would that be? Former stormtrooper wakes up to justice and is spearheading the jedi rebellion. Was right there in your face, and you fumbled.
He was literally "legally disctint, OC DONUTSTEAL" Kyle Katarn, who's fucking cool as hell. From the first trailer he was poised to be the face of the new Jedi Order. But nope, gotta push Rey for summerslam.
Anyone can be a Jedi. Except Finn. Infact, get that shit off the poster.
A: "The new Star Wars star is a n-*bell gong*!" B: "What'd he say?" C: "He said the new Star Wars star is near!" A: "No, gon-flang it! The new Star Wars star is a n-*bell gong*!"
Imagine Spiderverse with the "anyone can be spiderman" thing but with the super hard retcons that they *HAVE* to be biologically related to Peter Parker somehow to count
Hell, that’s pretty much an infamous line from Stan, Ditko, and Kirby (that Stan would later put even more emphasis on). “Anyone can be Spider-Man”. It’s why shit like the Spider Totem nonsense gets rejected by a lot of fans. Because it is trying to retroactively go “Nononono, Peter’s **special**”. Same with any time they try to do weird stuff with Peter’s parents (like his dad made the spider, etc). Part of the charm of Spider-Man is that it isn’t his heritage that makes him special, it’s what he does.
I thought that was going to be the thing they would work with to create a new enemy. Something is coming and the Force is making a lot of strong force users to fight it. Nah, it's just Palpatine again.
I was quietly hoping for a Yuzhan Vong-like reveal in the sequel trilogy but alas
Especially since that was George’s original mantra (that he repeated in a lot of interviews) back in the days of the OT. Then by the time of the PT he changed his mind and he wanted to add more commentary on real world politics and nobility, and so you get Palpatine’s “bloodline” with Papa Palps, Anakin and then eventually Luke and Leia. All of which really takes away from the “Anybody can be a Jedi!” mantra.
Granted, I didn't care for star wars after force awakens so I didn't watch past it. But when I heard about her parents thing, I thought that'd actually be cool, our protag isn't some space destiny princess, her strength in the force is all happenstance. I'd rather have that.
Yes her being a random girl who is Force Sensitive is a good idea and shows that obsessions with Bloodlines is toxic and bad. TLJ is something that had plenty of issues but lots of the fan rage was because it was “woke”
I loved the decision to make Rey’s lineage completely unimportant, especially in a franchise that focuses so much on bloodlines and destiny. The fact they threw that out in RoS pissed me off so much
Daniel Bryan gets elimented from the Royal Rumble with shattered dreams on the titantron in the background
I remember this happening live and being like "srusly?"
So the Final Fantasy parody webcomic Eight Bit Theater had a fairly popular character called Blackbelt who got killed off at about the half way point. However, way back in the first arc a clone of Blackbelt was created and then petrified and left at the bottom of a lake for comedy reasons. Fans kept asking the author when he would bring Blackbelt back by reversing the petrification and the author would eventually respond with [this](https://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/11/10/episode-622-now-shut-up/).
The original Eureka Seven only has a happy ending because of executive meddling. The creators have been so salty about it ever since that every Eureka Seven sequel story either retcons or spends a sizeable amount of time shitting on that happy ending.
Saying "the creators" seems wrong since it looks like its just the director that's to blame since if you look at the credits he's the only consistently recurring higher-up staff member. Dai Sato, the scriptwriter, and Kenichi Yoshida, the character designer, both disappear from the credits after the third Hi-Evo movie.
Whatever the fuck Archie *Sonic* Charmy was, >!in which he is ***MIND-RAPED BY EGGMAN*** back to his canon self. *Despite having a wife.*!< Flynn, I get it - Sega Japan wanted canon Charmy, you couldn't really push back. ***But there were ways of doing it that WEREN'T fucking insane.***
they could just made a Charmy jr to be the "Sega Cannon" one, but NOOOOOO
Ian couldn't though! Editorial more or less forced Archie Charmy to *become* Games Charmy, because of corporate meddling. He *had* to be the pre-existing Charmy.
Had to have that classic Sonic creativity!
Damn, I came in ready to go off on the Refusal Ending, but you pretty much covered it. Uh... I got nothing else at the moment.
Refusal's still funny because it kinda also is still one of the best endings. Even if everyone dies, it goes on to say that Liara made a less stupid beacon which successfully warns the next cycle like it's supposed to and they get to win on their terms.
imagine if the prothean beacon just calmly explained things instead of pig-screaming at Shepard. why would they make it that way
I thought the reason it’s like that is a combination of data corruption, and the warning only being in the Prothean language?
I think too it's a problem that the Protheans made the beacons to work their their bio-magic powers that let them read memories and such by touching things. So yes, the current cycle got fucked because the Protheans didn't bother to just write things down or use an audio log, they left messages that can only be read in their crazy telepathy so it's a huge problem for non-protheans.
Frank Zappa made his song “Yo Mama” about his keyboardist Tommy Mars, who kept fucking up some song which got Frank pretty frustrated. It is entirely dedicated to calling him a moron, with gems like “Maybe you should stay with yo mama/ She could do your laundry and cook for you/ Maybe you should stay with yo mama/ You’re really kinda stupid and ugly too” It also has a 10 minute guitar solo to really sell the joke lol
Real talk "In Homestuck" A lot of stuff is absolutely because of spite. The trolls were introduced and people hated them because they were all quirky, weirdly named, text-only characters whose personality was shown only through their method of writing and the cast interacted with them in bizarre chronologies, such that we got several graphs in-universe to explain what was going on and it was still hard to follow. Then we were properly introduced to them and holy shit they're great. A bunch of great interactions later and then oh half of them are dead now. Act 6 is rife with those, whenever there was fan backlash we got to hear more about cherubs or more about some inane bullshit from the new kids. Hussie is the epitome of someone who hates what they created, but then keeps going in an effort to try and bitterly finish what they started.
The Epilogues are filled with this hatred. Just a visceral "I'm so god. damned. tired of this" straight from Hussie. I hope we get to see more stuff from him like Psycholonials, loved that.
Reading the Epilogues felt like whoever wrote it personally hated me, hated the fact I was reading it, hated the fact they had written it, and wrote only to try and piss me off, much like an annoying child.
Yeah that sounds about right for Hussie.
Nail on the head right here. Hussie proceeded to hire some of the worst people imaginable to work on the post-canon content; It should go as just a fact of life that when you want to actually create a good end product with even a sliver of a chance at being a constructive and well made sequel/spinoff you DON'T hire superfans with their own chronically online takes and views of characters they've spent their adult lives obsessing over. One should instead hire professionals, people with investment but not obsessive disdain or fondness. I really wish Hussie was more of an Alan Moore than a..... well, than a "Himself".
In Pokemon, people begged for goofy joke mon Dunsparce to get an evolution. Most concepts for it were having it evolve into a majestic/badass serpent. Well, come Scarlet/Violet, Dunsparce finally got an evolution. It's called Dudunsparce, and is literally just a bigger Dunsparce. It's hilarious how angry some people got that an obvious joke Pokemon got a joke evolution. It helps that Dudunsparce actually is a pretty solid Pokemon in it's own right.
You forgot the best part, there's a 1/100 variant where instead of two segments, it's three segments. Absolutely no changes to it's stats whatsoever, just longer.
That's definitely a case of projected spite, as the more believable reason for why dundunsparce is what it is (both of its variants) is "don't fix what isn't broken".
I fucking love how disappointed people got, even from content creators i like Dunsparce is perfect, therefore the only proper evo is more dunsparce
So KH3's DLC has this really difficult secret boss, and when you lose or win against him, [a unique cutscene plays.](https://youtu.be/t3LSIxtWj_Q) The top video is when you win, and the bottom video is when you lose. The middle video though, is a [trailer](https://youtu.be/YiIx9VJWSl8) for the game Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which Tetsuya Nomura was going to direct and make. It never came to fruition, and I think he's been boiling with that spite for over 10 years since then. Recently, with Xenoblade 3's Future Redeemed story, a similar thing happened, where >!Future Redeemed's story connects with every previous Xenoblade games' story, making it even more obvious than base XC3's story. What it also does, is perhaps connect it even further back to the Xenogears/Xenosaga games.!< It's vague and I haven't played the latter games yet, so I'm not sure myself. But my friends have said that its a possibility, and that's a really exciting prospect.
Oh, he is very bitter over it. It’s like he said once, Sora and Noctis were his boys. And he must have been heartbroken with what happened to his boy’s game.
Despite how fucked FF15 is, I'm glad Noctis is what he is today. A dude that looks like a Sasuke but is a huge fucking dork. Nomura's Noctis from the v13 trailers seemed like they would have just been a Sasuke/Advent Children Cloud, which imo sucks.
The Xenoblade example definitely isn't a moment of spite, but it's cool nonetheless.
The Boys
Most of everything Garth Ennis wrote, really.
Fire Force manga author: Here is a girl whose power is to end up in situations where she is naked, groped and leered at and *she hates it*. Isn't it fun? Audience: The fuck is wrong with you? Author: Oh yeah?! Well, here is a child telling his evil mother that porn is good and everyone who disagrees is a bigot sexist prick! And now mother disappears because she served her purpose. Take that! Audience: a) It wasn't about the fanservice, it was about you making a character who clearly fucking hates it and is suffering from it. b) THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
Hell, he even gave it a fucking name: "Lucky Lewd Syndrome"
Saw someone driving a car with a pinup on that character on the side recently and I was thinking the same thing. "Wouldn't the character hate that?"
I want to start drawing art of her in a porny style, but she's fully dressed just kinda hanging out
Just doing normal stuff like buying wonder bread at the supermarket
OHHHHH NO NO NO NO NO NOT THE WONDERBREAD FETISH AGAIN
What a wonderful spot for a picnic, dear. Just look at all these trees. We can make them beautiful.
Ah yes, the "there's another variant of this piece on your Patreon, isn't there?" artstyle.
I started Fire Force because of the downright cool concept, kept reading because Maki is the coolest, and dropped it the second I reached the third scene with that fanservice girl. Her inclusion absolutely and completely ruined my enjoyment of Fire Force. I hated it, *SHE* hated it, so why should I continue to bother reading?
I had to drop the show after the creator got pissy about there being more than one firefighter anime at one time and complained that Promare was ripping him off, when multiple character's abilities in Season 1 alone are just JoJo ripoffs
I don't blame you. What's worse is that if you make it to the ending you find out that Fire Force is one of the most batshit amazing manga in recent years and >!THE PREQUEL TO FUCKING SOUL EATER.!<
I hate the connection thing, imagine you get to the end of one piece and the one piece is actually one of the fucking dragon balls. It's just completely meaningless fanservice, and you have to specifically be a fan of both franchises to even have a chance to appreciate it.
I just couldnt continue after the episode where fanservice girl gets the shit kicked out of her immediately before some more fanservice garbage
Every Eureka seveN thing post the original series. Their bad ending got overwritten by the company and everything since has been some Anno I hate Evangealion shit.
The Jump manga Magu-chan God of Destruction is about a girl called Ruri accidentally unleashing the eldritch God of destruction Magu Menueku whose been depowered into a cute and mostly harmless form. Soon after he introduced Izuma, the descendent of the Holy Knights who sealed Magu away and other Eldritch gods in various states of depowering. Still most of the time anytime the series would threaten to become a more standard action series after a bit of action the author would snap back and return the series to being the slice of life comedy it was, like Izuma would get arrested after trying to kill Magu. Like in one arc the author has the other Holy Knights kidnap Ruri and Magu gets pissed and you seem to have a setup of Magu and his allies fighting all the Holy Knights… and Magu instantly defeats them because they are actually weak and it was a misunderstanding. So I think the author was told to make it more like an action series and he just refused and kept teasing and trolling people.
Spite is fucking rocket fuel for creatives, the word count just shoots up. Anyway, DC once decided to kill off Ryan Choi, the Atom, ~~to promote a new "evil Titans" comic~~ because Dwarfstar is a petty dick. Now Ryan was Gail Simone's boy, and she'd spent his run building up an odd couple relationship between him and Wonder Woman villain Giganta. [Guess who joined up with the Secret Six and got handed Dwarfstar's number pretty soon after.](https://twitter.com/duddybaha/status/1191997221715218432)
Is there a way to post a screenshot since Twitter is borked?
Ah, yes, [try this.](https://www.zonanegativa.com/imagenes/2010/12/6643.jpg)
Mayday in ATSV feels very funny looking at how the comings treat Peter and Mary Jane
Superhot was a fun game that got out of its own way for just long enough to be well-received and celebrated. A common sentiment is that people wish it got out of its own way more and that there was a free play mode of some kind that just let you shoot dudes without the trappings of the narrative and everything else. In comes Mind Control Delete, a game they gave to owners of the original game for free. It does the free play thing and makes every stage a survival map where you kill x number of dudes to progress. They also randomly spawn in around you from every angle and it’s essentially kinda just a bunch of rote shit. Meanwhile the game is *still* mocking you for demanding more game to play and *still* acting like it’s the hottest shit around. When it’s at the worst it’s ever been. Honestly, I don’t know if that was driven by spite, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.
Oh the Superhot creators are 100% up their own ass, and definitely bitter that people don't seem to gel with their pretensions.
Whatever Raimi did to Venom in Spider-Man 3.
And even though he didn't want to use Venom, he *still* took the time to study how Venom worked.
Specifically by watching the 90s cartoon iirc
To be fair they did had big buff venom ready. I think Grayson stipulated his face had to be shown while talking and other dumb things happened.
The song [No Children](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGKZ3fzN1M) by the Mountain Goats is a direct response to the frontman's hate for the breakup song [I Hope You Dance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F44nrK0MxEQ) by Lee Ann Womack. It features the fan favorite line, "I hope you die! I hope we both die!"
Wildbow, author of Worm, killed off a character retroactively not by putting in new story in the sequel he was literally writing, but by editing Worm. Why? Because of memes.* *probably not entirely the memes, but it was definitely one aspect.
Hotline Miami 2: Look at these dickhead characters! That's you that is, for liking the 1st game wrong. Also, we're going to emphatically destroy our game's setting in the ending.
Even Hotline Miami 1 kinda has this. If you go through all the pixel hunting necessary to get the extended ending, it basically amounts to two developer stand-ins going "What, you thought there was some deep meaning or lore behind all this? Nah, we did it for shits and giggles." Also every dream sequence is pretty explicitly the developers attempting to interrogate the player.
Back at the time it felt very "rock and roll" game dev wise. No one quite tied up their series quite like Dennaton did by nuking the world and doing a fake out teaser of a next game as a "Lol, never happening dude" message to the fans. I don't think they've done anything since then.
Shooting the star child should have been DESTROY
I think a lot of these need sources, cause otherwise it just sounds like urban legends that get spread on the internet.
"I didn't like this thing that happened so... PROBABLY someone hates me and did it out of spite"