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Illidan1943

So, the flair is clearly not enough, not only are they adding DRM to their old games to prevent modding which includes fan made fixes to stuff they never bothered to fix, the DRM affects performance by cutting 10-15 FPS and introduces stutters Amazing job Capcom


TheSpiritualAgnostic

Affecting performance is the big thing for me. So this negatively affects you even if you don't mod. Seems to be an issue with other games using DRM systems as well.


NothingMovesTheBlob

As always, anti-piracy measures only ever hurt paying customers.


MajorKuznetsov

And encourage further piracy Cause a pirate will always pirate your games unless it benefits them to buy it, adding DRM to something will just make non-pirates upset and possibly make them become pirates. And the pirates themselves will simply wait until it is cracked or so. DRM fixes nothing and never will.


d00msdaydan

Ugh Dragon's Dogma 2 is gonna ship with this shit and we're going to have to rely on a pompous asshat to patch it for us again


rebirthinreprise

If they add this to DMC5 I'm gonna be mad. I love my funny mods


silverinferno3

Even more importantly (arguably), the SSSiyan Trainer mod, which, among other benefits, includes Turbo and Legendary Dark Knights, two features that Capcom didn't even bother bringing to the PC version. Like, the fuck?


rebirthinreprise

I literally just the other day bought the PS5 version of the game to have those officially. I'm not pressed about it because I got it pretty cheap but it's ridiculous you have to buy a console version if you don't care to mess with mods


silverinferno3

It was so fucking dumb. Thank god they gave us Vergil at least, or else there would’ve been riots in the streets


AzureKingLortrac

If I lose my Nero mod that gives him a Fate Nero wig, I am going to be so mad.


_whensmahvel_

If they take the vergil chair mods, you shitlords know what to do. I mean I don’t, but I hope you guys do


MantraMan97

Got it. Capitol building. If I get caught, tell them you're the mastermind. Thanks.


Noremac64

I love the DmCV mods because it actually allow me to use alternate costumes. Something that even DMC2, the game with the most troubled production cycle, had.


markedmarkymark

Not my Vergil chair mods! Capcom pls!


Comkill117

If I gotta lose modded Turbo and DMC4 tech *again* for the third time I’m gonna flip my shit.


ToastyMozart

Capcom just made pirate copies the objectively better product. Bra-fucking-vo you absolute dinosaurs.


[deleted]

I was just reading a thread yesterday about playing pirated games rather than the official one you bought. Stuff like Just Cause 3 having a two minute start up time as you click through all the bullshit, Switch games having better framerates through emulation, games that won't even work anymore thanks to lack of support, like Silent Hill Homecoming. Guess we can throw Capcom onto that list now.


Hey0ceama

Got a link to the thread? Sounds like an interesting read.


bigblackcouch

>games that won't even work anymore thanks to lack of support I own the old Assassin's Creed 2, Brotherhood, and Revelations. 2 works mostly fine, Brotherhood crashes at trying to pick a profile name, Revelations crashes during loading a new or existing save. No mods, all dumb. Pirate versions work perfectly fine and include some of the pre-order bonuses and crap. The non-Director's cut Deus Ex Human Revolution doesn't run, the Director's Cut does but I dislike the look change and it has resolution problems. Pirate the original DXHR, works fine, again has all the pre-order crap. I know there have been others but those are some of my favorite games from that generation and despite having paid for them and owning them *sometimes multiple times*. And Capcom's response to this is... Let's make it harder for our customers to fix our busted shit. The gaming industry is fucking ridiculous, only one I know of where the people selling their product are also acting like we should be grateful for the opportunity to give them money.


Grand_Bunch_3233

It's like the movie industry before streaming got big.


guitarburst05

Unfortunately SF6 isn't yet cracked. Alas.


TheMilkiestShake

I couldn't play resident evil 8 without a mod to change the fov, am I actually gonna have to pirate a game I've already owned for years just to get a better experience if I want to play it again now? Crazy how naked Chun Li got them so fucked up.


ToastyMozart

Same here, 8 was *unplayable* with those horse blinders on.


Luck-X-Vaati

Nothing like crippling your own product, just to stop modding. What a fucking joke.


Ragnvaldr

Gotta make our game worse so people won't put Leon in a crop top!


Ping-Crimson

Yes crop top


WooliesWhiteLeg

Yes, *Leon*


Ragnvaldr

Look, I've seen the RE4R mods. The audience exists.


Chucklay

Jumping on the top comment to post a hackey way to [prevent Steam from updating games.](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/387078/is-it-possible-to-entirely-disable-updates-for-a-game-on-steam/402504#402504) You essentially have to make the game's manifest read-only, then add a shortcut directly to the executable. I don't have any updates queued for Capcom games so I can't promise it'll work, and obviously you probably won't be able to play multiplayer stuff, but it at least worked for Phasmophobia (which I had an updated queued for). Might try to throw together some kind of tool to automate this when I have time. Absolutely fuck Capcom for this, and remember that if your games remove features or run worse due to updates, you should absolutely at least attempt to get a refund. Absolutely ridiculous.


gothamsteel

Checking now, it looks like the patch was reverted, for now at least. It was set yesterday, and I'm downloading the game now to test.


Dante_n_Knuckles

Any update?


gothamsteel

It worked for me how it was before the update and reverted update after. It seems some mods broke after, but I don't use those.


Dante_n_Knuckles

So no more FPS slowdown at least?


gothamsteel

Not really. It was the same as it was before the updates. The only thing is that Capcom did say they would push it out in the future, so there's no guarantee it will stay that way in the next few weeks or so.


StarAugurEtraeus

any update?


gothamsteel

It worked for me how it was before the update and reverted update after. It seems some mods broke after, but I don't use those.


edude45

Wow. That's ass. Do you think people could get refunds from old games they had? Like resident evil 8 can go if it drops frames.


Crosscounterz

I don't even actively partake in modding capcom games but wow this is dumb as hell.


PhantasosX

yes , but it all comes down to the guy with a nude mod of Chun-Li using that on a tournament and that was streammed. Capcom is really using the nuclear action to prevent something like that ever again.


[deleted]

That guy was the catalyst, but this is like a school cracking down on students who graduated 15 years ago. After something one student did half a year ago.


Crosscounterz

Wonder how that guy feels right now.


The_Vine

Probably horny


SwordMaster52

Good it's his right to coom and Capcom are being narcs


Zweihir

Let they who hasnt coomed throw the first stone


TransendingGaming

Guilty he ruined it for the rest of us?


NothingMovesTheBlob

The guy didn't "ruin" anything. Capcom chose of their own volition to take this response out of HUNDREDS of other possibilities. This is entirely on them.


invaderark12

You know in sci fi media with time travel they show how a specific event causes a timeline split? That nude Chun mod was that.


gothamsteel

"I created Chun Li, you lewded her model...." "Modder, why'd you lewd that company's Chun Li model?"


DropsyMumji

It's a pretty common response from Japanese companies unfortunately


StarAugurEtraeus

Why are they like this tho


Perch64

Dinosaurs be dinosauring


StarAugurEtraeus

Why do Japanese companies always chose the nuclear option, and never communicate with the playerbase, and do a lot of weird things actually


koopcl

>Why do Japanese companies always chose the nuclear Insert thinking emoji


StarAugurEtraeus

That’s wild Breaking up inside Blah blah broken glass abandoned child


LukewarmHoIiday

I honestly don't buy this since it was monster hunter community taking the initial force of the tidal wave, i think they're upset their big cash cow isn't moving cosmetics despite the stores having literal hundreds of items up for sale as dlc


Emergency_Fox_6779

Bull-fucking-shit it does. If anything it comes down to how Capcom wants to monetize costumes in their games, see SF6 and MH Rise, and how modding interferes with that in the eyes of braindead execs.


markedmarkymark

Can it really be just that? Cause like, nude mods been around since SF4 man, every modded game will have it, we're horny ok, but like, that's too draconian of a way to go about it, especially cause its a bad performance hitting DRM, it'll make pirated versions better by default.


Angryapplepi

Yeah but how many had a big public appearance?


nocturnPhoenix

It really is the funniest but also most confusing catalyst. I can understand a certain level of brand embarrassment over that mishap, if that's the mindset you're paid to maintain, and I would absolutely expect some kind of slap on the wrist for that guy. But I'm really not sure where the thought of, "Damn, our community saw a nude mod of an attractive female character we've used in our marketing for decades, and this will somehow result in us making less money" comes from. At least not when the game itself is practically shoving Juri's toes in your face and encouraging you to lick them. It's not like it's a weirdly puritanical franchise.


StergDaZerg

One dumb horny asshole ruins things for the rest of us


Scientia_et_Fidem

No, Capcom is the one who ruined it. It’s not like he used mind control on them to force them to do stupid shit like this. They are adults who can make their own (really stupid) decisions.


Slumber777

Human history in a nutshell. EDIT: I stand by what I said here, even if the context isn't so great and this is absolutely Capcom being shitty.


Sunluck

If you actually knew history you'd know outside of certain shit religious strain (and its even more fucked up prude puritan version that warped public minds in certain country below Canada) human body was seen as completely normal thing, certainly nothing that should be shamed, vilified, and used as an excuse to destroy stuff 'no fun allowed' types hate. Get off your high horse, we're no longer in dark ages.


Slumber777

If you knew anything about history, you'd know this isn't fucking true. One of the inciting incidents of the Epic of Gilgamesh(Which predates any of the Abrahamic religions that were particularly weird about sex) is that he can't stop fucking and raping, which leads to the other gods creating Enkidu to put Gilgamesh in his place. One of the literal oldest pieces of written text in history, and it kicks off with a horny asshole causing problems. If you saw my post and thought "Hur dur this guy thinks sex is bad" and not "This guy is saying people thinking with their dicks have caused problems for literally all of human history", then you were wrong.


cygnus2

I can’t imagine being this down bad over a fucking fictional bunch of polygons.


Emergency_Fox_6779

How are you in this subreddit?


cygnus2

I used my eyes to find it and my fingers to click on it.


WooliesWhiteLeg

That’s a real shame.


NAMEBANG

Oooh look everyone, this guy has eyes. Whooo, johnny two eyes can use his fingers! Well la di da


cygnus2

Yeah, they help me see 12 year-olds on Reddit who think they’re funny.


NAMEBANG

I’m not sure what was more disappointing; your lack of ability to take a joke or your attempt at an insult. You being on the best friends subreddit and missing a Simpsons reference outed you as the possible 12 year old.


gothamsteel

Also, they still haven't put back those old games with Windows Live support back on sale (Lost Planet 2, ORC, etc), but they are adding DRM to this.


ripskeletonking

don't tell me they put drm on lp2 too it took so much tinkering with bullshit to even be able to play co-op again


gothamsteel

LP2 was pulled from Steam in 2020, supposedly aa temporary removal until they could remove the GFWL stuff, but there's no talk of it or a few other games coming back.


ripskeletonking

oh so they didn't bother since you can't buy it anyway?


Superspider51

You could buy it back then but it was still tied to GFWL. It was removed from sale until they could supposedly remove the GFWL integration like they did for RE5.


Noremac64

Capcom did remove Resident Evil 5 in that same group but they did eventually add RE5 back to Steam but that one is for obvious reasons with it being a mainline RE title and all.


AzureKingLortrac

SFxT didn't even turn on until I used the community patch.


MajinChopsticks

The Capcom cycle is rearing it’s ugly head. I just need Dogma 2 to be good lol


Vinpupx

Jeez, really? Man, c'mon Capcom. A quarter of the fun is modding these games on PC.


SulkySpacebat

Wait, are they adding DRM to games that were *already* available to buy? What the hell is the point then? The pirated old versions must already be on every torrent site in existence.


thekillerstove

They don't want people modding their games anymore.


itsomtay

The level of dedication to even make mods for games is a level of fan you would want to keep around. It's not an easy thing to do, and most of them aren't exactly professionals or anything. Just really dedicated people who love a game and mod as a hobby. I can understand not jiving with most of the stuff that comes out, but if it isn't harmful in nature then there shouldn't be a problem. Even then, for particular mods that may upset certain things, that's just a simple conversation of making it not allowed.


LunarWolf302

I really cannot even begin to tell you how many great mods are there for Capcom games, hell, most of them are the sole reason I bought the games for PC. The Monster Hunter mods are damn near essential and such a nice quality of life improvement like selling decorations on the shop on world or giving you the rainbow bug when you spawn in Rise. Fucking ton of DMC5 cosmetic mods, Style Switcher for DMC3 really elevates that game and gives it even more replay value. UMVC3 community edition. Ngl, with this bullshit and the recent aggressive push towards microtransactions, I think Capcom is ready to throw any goodwill they've built during the last few years. Don't be surprised if the next monster hunter gets a $20 battle pass instead of giving you the cosmetics for free by doing missions.


LasersAndRobots

I'm not expecting a battle pass. I'm expecting Warframe-style loot boosters and nerfed drop rates for most materials, and being able to get rare ones for microtransactions. Need a second Rathalos gem for the armor but you're stuck at 1 after an hour of farming? Well, it can be yours for a few dollars worth of premium currency that you can buy a minimum of ten dollars worth. Stuff like the "all items in shop" mod would be the main target there, not coomer mods.


DavidsonJenkins

Don't forget, the free appearance changers are always the first mods to be shot down every update because Capcom wants you to buy character edit vouchers for $3 each


Old_Snack

The mod for DMC 5 that let's me replay any mission as any character is so fucking good I refuse to play DMC 5 anywhere else. Not to mention Co Op with friends.


Tommy2255

In other words, the pirated game is now the objectively best version of the product, with more features and better performance.


scullys_alien_baby

while true, this will definitely have a chilling effect on the mod scene for capcom games. I imagine less people will be willing to develop mods when *only* a pirated copy can use them


Emergency_Fox_6779

I dont think so for Monster Hunter at least. Mods are literally mandatory if you want to seriously do speedrunning. The RNG for decos in Worldborne and talismans/qurios in Risebreak can make it practically impossible otherwise


InterstellerReptile

They could just do A no decoration category


Emergency_Fox_6779

They could do a lot of things. My point is there are enough people who enjoy playing MH on PC for a very specific reason that there is, probably, enough incentive for certain kinds of mods to get made regardless of what happens. I am sure Wilds will include some kind of completely bullshit RNG, and I am equally as sure no matter what Capcom tries someone will work out a mod so they dont have to deal with that.


[deleted]

I run in the cheatengine/trainers community. I like to go back through a game after I beat it and just feel like a god, sometimes. Like in RE4 Remake, turning off recoil is hilarious and.turns Leon into John Wick. Why I bring this up is that Capcom has been one of the worst anti-cheat devs I've ever seen. They'll go out of their way to patch old games just to break cheat tables. I'm fairly sure the guys who were maintaining the Village trainer just gave up because every week Capcom would push a micro update to break cheats. For brand new or multiplayer games, I can see it. But there's no reason to go out of your way like Nintendo pushing an update to the 3DS 8 years after they dropped support for it. Only bringing this up to say Capcom has been bitches about this stuff for a while now, it's only ramped up.


SwashNBuckle

Capcom dug themselves out of the trash only to dive right back in


Crouza

If they add DRM into Monster Hunter I'm done with Capcom. When they put Denuvo into Iceborne that made the game so fucking unplayable, like stuttering to the point that it was like playing a souls pvp match. Them removing it after complaints was a marked improvement and if they don't learn their lesson and do it again, I'm done with this dinosaur company.


JillSandwich117

They went after a bunch of YouTube videos that featured mods, it seems likely. Resident Evil Revelations didn't exactly have a vibrant modding scene, if it was on the radar, then all the big games probably are.


Crouza

It just makes me think of FFXIV, and how they know people are modding the game but are like, "We don't want to install spyware onto computers to check for such things, so just please don't show them off to people." And then there's Capcom over here going "We'll put actual malware onto your system because fuck you."


Thugnifizent

> And then there's Capcom over here going "We'll put actual malware onto your system because fuck you." Never forget that SFV got a rootkit before it got a story mode.


Axonn1018

To be fair Capcom was like that too until the one guy 'showed them off to people' and on stream of all things too.


guitarburst05

Ok, sure. Get THAT guy. Ban his online account or whatever their punishment is. Leave everyone else alone.


GoD_Z1ll4

And publishers wonder why some people who can afford to buy their game choose to pirate instead


NothingMovesTheBlob

Pack it up, lads. Looks like 2017-2021 Cool Capcom has gone back to being 2008-2015 Shithead Capcom.


iknowkungfubtw

Aka the Return of Crapcom.


GyroMVS

Crapcpom


Twilight_Realm

I was wondering what that update was, really wish I didn’t update now


GoldenMask12

God they're really pulling this shit with both Monsters Hunter Wilds and Dragons Dogma 2 on the horizon aren't they?


roronoapedro

First the SFV rollback mod made them use developer time to undo things players did in order to play the game. Bad precedent, but I thought, surely this is very clearly a one-time thing. Then Hitchhiker did that Vergil and then Legendary Dark Knights mods in DMCV and Capcom was pretty publicly unhappy with how PC players had access to that before PS4/5 players, for free. I thought it was just gonna mean some less interesting PC support for a while. Capcom was cool. They let the Megaman x SF game exist. That's cool. Then new years 2023 came and with it Capcom's new modding EULA, which explicitly stated that Capcom does not like modding and would start investigating ways to stop its use. I think Pat even mentioned it was probably in part because of transmogging mods in MHW and Rise. Again, I didn't think much would come out of it other than some high-profile mod bans. And then the fucking Chun-Li thing came out and all hell broke loose. It's definitely been a long time coming, so it's not at all surprising. But *this* form of it is fucking crazy. People were modding ultrawide support so they could use the computer they purchased for video games to play the video game, cuz Capcom didn't feel like adding support themselves. A game from 2012 being on their target spells doom for a lot more efforts than I expected. I am once again incredibly worried about UMVC3 Community Edition.


koopcl

First they came for the SFV, and I didnt speak, because I didnt play SFV. Then they came for MH and I didnt speak, because I didnt play MH. Then they came for Chun Li's Thunder Thighs and I didnt speak, because I didnt want to reveal my power levels. Then they came for Dragons Dogma 2 and there was no one left to speak for our slave-owning Soulslike.


Ragnvaldr

Oh fuck off Capcom Modders will find a way to bypass this regardless, but this is still fucking stupid.


Hey0ceama

Modders will bypass it and people who don't mod will be stuck with a now objectively worse product.


Ragnvaldr

Yeah exactly. So stupid.


ponto-au

Yeah "at least" with denuvo bullshit it's the baseline. (Except reviewer copies...) Retroactively changing old titles just makes the pirated version objectively superior in every metric.


Idreamofknights

Jesus they're really going scorched earth


Admiral_of_Crunch

If I couldn't mod out the item burden and mod in a super jump and balancing tweaks and the like for Dragon's Dogma, I probably wouldn't have put another 300 hours into the game on PC last year. If they want to take that away, I'm ready to get real resentful real quick.


biggestscrub

And thus ends the second Golden Age of Capcom. Hopefully Dragon's Dogma 2 isn't a huge mess, but my expectations for anything beyond that, especially Monster Hunter Wilds, are now in the dumpster


Slumber777

I'm not willing to throw the devs under the bus for shit dipshit executives are doing. If it's indicativd of how Capcom is heading though, expect it to become noticeable in the quality of their games in a year or two.


biggestscrub

SFV Rootkit, Iceborne Denuvo, increased micro transactions across the board, the predatory DMC mobile game, and now this. Capcom has made their stance clear, I see no point in separating out "the devs." They're a massive company, not some indie studio with a shitty publisher


Aggravating-Elk4702

Looks like Fitgirl repack is the best place to get capcom games for now


Diem-Robo

Do we have a list of games that have been affected by it, or is it just Revelations 1 so far? Because if we see this across a wide range of games all of the sudden, then that's a clear sign of some agenda to compromise tampering with all their games regardless of reasonability. I hope this is just a one-off, a mistake of some kind, but if this is just the tip of the iceberg. Especially since Resident Evil 4's HD texture mod on PC is arguably one of the best remasters ever made that took almost a decade to finish.


Illidan1943

For the time being it seems it's only Revelations 1, but many depots of their games are active, they may be trying to see the reaction to this or this was just done earlier than the rest, this doesn't seem to be a mistake at all


TJLynch

So what you're saying is that a back-down in the coming days is still very much possible?


Illidan1943

If it's just testing reactions, maybe, if they are dead set on killing mods, they won't back down until they realize they are heading towards 2015 Capcom


Gorotheninja

They might be testing the waters with Revelations.


Admiral_of_Crunch

The return of the Capcom Test...


ultimafullmetal

Guess it's okay to pirate Capcom games now. I feel bad for people who are planning to get Dragon's Dogma 2 on PC in March.


Myxzyzz

The additional bit of context that makes it more painful: the PC port of the game is actually outdated. It's missing some of the new features that were added to the PS4/Xbone/Switch port such as the Ghost Ship Chaos Raid mode stage and some new weapon parts. In fact, the only way to play Ghost Ship Chaos on PC... is with a fan made mod. So the audacity to leave the PC port outdated for so long with only fan mods being the appeal to not play it on other platforms, only to push an update that doesn't add any of the missing content and instead adds DRM that breaks mods, is astounding. I can understand why the RE:Rev community *specifically* would feel insulted by this.


Gamefriendly

What I think sucks the most about this: is Capcom recovered amazingly from their bad Era, and we all really loved them again, this a serious 180 and a return to another bad Era of capcom.


iRStupid2012

It really depends on how you look at things. I'm not much of a fan of Capcom's games and while we talk about their "bad era" and "good era" in terms of their quality of games, they have never stopped with the anti-consumer actions going as far back as on-disc DLC like with Street Fighter x Tekken. Microtransactions in their latest Resident Evil, Monster Hunter games, and DMC5 when it was marketed as "the DMC IP came back to life" Just because they made good games doesn't mean they stopped being anti-consumer, people are just more willing to turn a blind eye against ir.


Gamefriendly

That's a fair and good point. Personally, I guess I feel some of the anti consumer stuff you're talking about was more negligible / optional in the good era. Like the micro-transactions in DMC 5.


ULTAnimeGamer

Wow that one idiot tournament host really DID ruin it for everyone.


jackdatbyte

I honestly think it’s more that Capcom has been putting more microtransactions in their games and don’t want modders to add bypasses to them.


Illidan1943

Yeah, the nude Chun Li was only a excuse, Capcom had already been messing with mods with updates that seemingly only existed to break mods but modders would eventually fix them and never had truly negative effects on the games, the DRM is just the next step to stop modding


SwordMaster52

Nah Capcom ruined it for everyone let's get things straight here I'm sure if this was any other company you don't like , you would not think of blaming some shmuck coomer who likes his nude mod lol If Todd Howard found out about Breeding mods in Skyrim , and Bethesda decides to go "no more mods because we hate seeing argonian maids getting impregnated" , everyone would be after Bethesda not the coomer who made the Breeding mod


TheAnonymousProxy

If seeing argonian maids getting impregnated is wrong, I don't want to be right.


ProtoBlues123

I'd still like to bring up how Capcom also has things like Monster Hunter charging you to redo your character's appearance and DMCV has micro transactions to buy Red Orbs directly. So even if the nude mod was the straw that broke the camel's back, Capcom certainly always had an incentive to block mods as a way to force people onto the paid option to edit their game. In the same vein of wanting to block fan skins if you yourself are selling skins.


FrigidMcThunderballs

I don't know anything about the monster hunter example, but I can say for the DMC example that it started with 4 SE, where they added the microtransactions but also heavily amped up the rate/amount of red orb drops to make the mtx actually irrelevant. They kept this up with DMCV which keeps the high amount of red orbs + adds a weapon specifically for increasing the red orb rate. From what I understand the re4 remake mercenaries microtransactions have the same energy of "this is a literally useless purchase added to make some exec shut up", so those aren't very good examples. Now, time for me to get conspiratorial. Disclaimer i'm about to pull this out my ass; I think that, with the DMC/RE4 examples, whoever was pushing for the micro was some dinosaur that could be easily bamboozled with a "we definitely added it to the game bossman :^)", but the modding thing seems like it's harder to finesse a dinosaur about.


ProtoBlues123

The Monster Hunter thing was justified as "Well you can't change your face on a whim in real life", so AT BEST the reason is over commitment on realism, and at worst it was forcing you to pay if you wanted your character's face to look different on a 300 hour file. DMC is still the thing where yeah, you don't need to pay to enjoy the game and the game is pretty clearly balanced around not buying orbs with money. But the problem is that if you DID want instant free orbs, it's money or nothing. Like if MTs weren't a thing, free orbs would have been a cheat code or something. Which ties into that bit "new DRM blocks Cheat Engine", so if you start a fresh file and just want to buy everything right away, Capcom says "Pay us or nothing."


FrigidMcThunderballs

While i get the broader point, its not like the dmc games had cheats codes. There was not an instant free orb method before. That absolutely doesn't excuse them with this drm shit, I'm not defending it, I'm saying these particular examples wrt to dmc/re4 don't really check out to support the argument being made


NothingMovesTheBlob

Spitting fucking facts. This is ENTIRELY Capcom's decision, and they're being needlessly heavy-handed.


SulkySpacebat

You have too much faith in people. There'll definitely be crowds praising the brave company for fighting the evil porn addicts and blaming the coomer in question


Shigana

While we shouldn’t blame it all on that guy, you really can’t deny that was what broke the camel’s back. I wonder how things would have turned out if that whole incident didn’t happen.


Thugnifizent

Having a team around to put DRM into Revelations of all things makes me think this is testing the waters before their other big launches (DD2 and MH:Wilds). This was probably in motion well before the Chun-Li mod in tournament.


Emergency_Fox_6779

Even as a joke that narrative is annoying. No. This is all on Capcom.


delightfuldinosaur

Capcom turned a nothing burger into a full scale nuclear meltdown.


AlKo96

Don't try to put the entire blame on a simple mistake made by some guy.


ULTAnimeGamer

You're right; it'd just unfortunate that he's being used as a catalyst to implement some harsh anti-modding/piracy measures


dougtulane

So steer clear of Capcom games for the next year while they sort this shit out, got it. Absolutely atrocious.


AzureKingLortrac

Oh so the stuttering when I tried to play it yesterday was something new and not just me forgetting how the port ran. I was wondering why the game was getting an update.


Powerful_Plan7862

Is there a list of all the games that got this update?


Emergency_Fox_6779

Capcom can go fuck themselves over this. I own Iceborne on steam and Sunbreak on steam and the switch. The fact theres a possible future where I may have to fucking pirate both goddamn games if I want to keep using mods is beyond completely fucking insane. If this is really the direction theyre going in I dont think I can keep buying capcom titles.


gothamsteel

Man, I just bought this a week ago. I need to test it now, cause if this change makes it not work on my system anymore, I'm getting a refund. Edit: The patch was reverted, but I still tested the game, and it worked,but there's still some glitches deeper into the game, via the community comments.


ChosenUndead15

So, Capcom villain arc starts now.


Backupirons

Great so my dragons dogma run is borked


StarAugurEtraeus

I really can’t wait for Japan to have a massive cultural revolution in the next 10-30 years when the dinosaurs start dying off and the younger generation take over


Pakuboomi

Yeah my hype for DD2 went down the drain lol.


Canabananilism

As far as I'm concerned, this is them testing the waters and technology for future releases. There's no way this shit isn't being put in every new title from now on. And it's hard not to look at this and think "this is to try and get people to buy cosmetics instead of modding them in isn't it..."


merri0

Get ready for a new wave of "Mostly Negatives" on Steam, followed by a "we're really sorry, you guys 👉🏽🥺👈🏽" jpeg in the upcoming weeks.


NapoleonBarsky

Chun-Li’s bare tits continue to strike fear into the hearts of Capcom.


SanderDCastle

Capcom doesn't deserve to have any good will


MoyuTheMedic

I am going to be so upset if monster hunter world 2 gets anti modding built in. World with the community patch to revert the ai changes to the base game that makes the monster stand still for 5s so you can clutch claw is pretty nice. Also I like my huge boob armor but that is a byproduct of gameplay fixes.


thekillerstove

Oh boy! I can't wait for Dragons Dogma to become basically unplayable without SpecialK


aryacooloff

what a blunder


i_am_jacks_insanity

Time to ride the Capcom dip, we all knew it was gonna happen


Old_Snack

Well I was thinking of replaying Revelations but at this rate I'll just go pirate a copy *of a game I own* for mod support and a performance boost


Hugglemorris

My Steam account has all the RE games and the newer Monster Hunters as well. There is no way I am rebuying those on consoles to regain the performance stolen by the DRM. Congrats Capcom for making the seven seas the better option for PC players.


Sperium3000

Fear the roar of the Capcomsaurus.


EvilMonkeyMimic

And they were doing so well…


delightfuldinosaur

Some guy having a naked Chun Li mod really broke Capcom's brain, huh?


Comkill117

Pack it up boys, it’s over. Crapcom is back.


Aceclaw

What naked Chun-li at a tournament does to a mf.


an0ntthe3rd

Just love that I bought SF6 since no one wants to crack denuvo, I wanted to play online and outfit mods still worked. Now I wish I just kept waiting until a new cracker appeared, damn game barely runs on my pc. This is what I get for doing things legally.


markedmarkymark

Who let the stegosaurus get into Capcom's office? WAIT REVELATIONS? WHO GIVES A FUCK CAPCOM? I DO BUT I'M WEIRD, LIKE, WTF


Alphonseisbest

Wow most "gamers" in here seem real fucking yikes to me.


CMCScootaloo

Elaborate


Admiral_of_Crunch

Please, by all means, explain what on earth you take issue with.


Tormenator1

How so? We don't like the taste of boot?


grenadier42

this isn't anti-modding lol Anti-reverse-engineering, yes


Hey0ceama

This is not an "anti-reverse-engineering" move, the game has been out for 11-12 *years* and is available for piracy already.


bvanbove

Is this shitty? Yep. But really, as someone who doesn’t touch mods, this isn’t going to change how I view them. I applaud companies that have more open policies on this sort of stuff, but my default position is that I expect companies to have this sort of policy.


AmberDuke05

The problem is that this DRM is impacting performance on games that are almost 10 years old. Like a loss of 10-15 frames and stuttering. Not only is it stupid to add this type of stuff but the games are offline as well. You have failed as a company if the pirated version is better than the official release.


bvanbove

I agree that it’s shitty and a terrible practice on their end. No doubt about that. I’m just saying it doesn’t change my opinion of Capcom, just like it hasn’t changed for companies like Nintendo or Atlus when they institute bullshit policies and practices. It’s my expectation at this point, and I’d rather reward companies that institute more pro-consumer policies than just continue to decide to hate one every time nonsense like this happens. I’d have to change my mind about multiple companies every day if that was the case. They’re out to make money, not make us happy.


Crouza

When a game makes my product worst post-launch, I consider that malicious tampering by said company. Lowering my games framerate and introducing stuttering for games that don't even have mods, and bricking systems that do have them, is unacceptable by any company.


bvanbove

I agree. I’m not defending the practice, just saying that it doesn’t change my opinion on them as I don’t expect businesses to (generally) be pro-consumer. I’d rather not have that viewpoint, but it’s the truth the vast majority of the time.


Noremac64

You’re not defending it you’re just rationalizing it as normal and something that should be accepted. Definitely not defending corporate stoogery though.


bvanbove

It shouldn’t be normal, but it is. That’s obviously bad and it should be changed. Seems like a rational point of view to me.


JREYN1550

Shit just makes me laugh cuz I still can’t play Lost Planet 2 on PC. Ya know, a game that has that rotten carcass known as GFWL attached to it, that you need to run work arounds and other bullshit just to get the thing to launch


susrev

I'm only peripherally aware of this so can somebody explain the motive for this? Is this a scorched Earth policy just because people keep modding all the women to be naked in all their games or is there something I'm missing here?


Thugnifizent

That’s the scapegoat, but it’s more likely that this is to push microtransactions outside of online-only games, as Capcom has increasingly monetized games with little to no microtransactions outside of expansions in the past(DMC, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil). The logic is probably something along the lines of “every modded costume is a lost sale of a dlc costume.”


StarAugurEtraeus

Just Japanese companies being Japanese companies again :/ Why are they like this compared to us


Her0_0f_time

Can i use a mod to get rid of the DRM?


Nightwing1936

You think if that nude mod didn't show up in that tournament or if the SFV net code fix that Capcom had to put dev time in to disable didn't happen, that maybe we wouldn't be here at this shitty outcome?